DC Universe Thread

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a good idea, and they don't have set continuities anymore (haven't you heard?). I would love to see the Killing Joke in motion.

[McLegend]

I haven't heard actually. I have kind of stopped following the DCAU after the Cadmus arc of the JLU.

The ending would be great with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil. It's got to happen.

[Kalyx triaD]

The DCAU ended with JLU in 2005/6. Everything since was set in it's own universe, which is cool and not cool depending on how you look at it. Every movie they made since embarrasses the live action stuff consistently.

[McLegend]

I see. I'm going to have to watch them.

[Lock Jaw]

They should make an animated adaptation of Superman: Birthright. That would make a good Superman movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Oh HELL YEAH. And Kingdom Come, too.

[Juan]

Fuck you. I say this nicely..

God forbid someone say a bad thing about a comic book movie :roll:

MAN UP

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, God forbid indeed. :mad:

[Fignuts]

I've found Superman/Batman to be a pretty hit or miss book. Public Enemies was one of the stronger arcs, however, so I'll be looking forward to this.

On a related note, I respect any writer that can make me interested in superman. By those standards, Grant Morrison is a genius, because I LOVE All-Star Superman. If you havn't checke it out, do so.

Actually Grant Morrison is a genius regardless, but that's besides the point.

[Kalyx triaD]

The Public Enemies arc is the arc of the series, aside from the first (even though the World's Finest comics have been around). I think it should be used for reference when doing a Batman/Superman movie (along with the Byrne's Man of Steel #4).

[LuigiD]

I find Superman comics to be quite boring.
But then again..I have never been a Superman fan myself. It takes a lot to impress me with Superman. The last Superman comic I read that I enjoyed(which does not say much since I haven't read much since) was Superman #666. I really liked the concept of Superman just cracking down to the pressure he gets from the world and what people expect him to be. Good deal.
If DC is going to do more animated crap, I want to see the Anti-Monitor kick some ass.

[Reavant]

I also find the superman comics boring, but I think thats because Ive grown up spoiled with all the animated and live action programs and movies that have to do with him. I just think hes a character that is better suited off the paper.

[LuigiD]

I also find the superman comics boring, but I think thats because Ive grown up spoiled with all the animated and live action programs and movies that have to do with him. I just think hes a character that is better suited off the paper.
I agree.
Also, if we think about it..the Superman writers must have some serious trouble writing. I mean, it must be quite a task to come up with issues and enemies for someone like Superman. It must be hard to write for a character like Luthor who is technically smarter than any of us.
I just also think it's time that DC starts giving other heroes attention. I am tired of seeing Superman and Batman left and right. The DC universe does great with animated films but I need more dammit! and none of that Smallville crap also.
I am sorry but the Flash with a jogging suit is just not the flash.

[Kalyx triaD]

Flash is the character, not a costume. Other than that, yeah, Superman's hard to write for. I find him best used in conjunction with other characters. Justice League and cross-over events are where he excels.

[Kalyx triaD]

Does anybody really want to read these stories in two separate threads?

[Shadow]

I do

[Kalyx triaD]

These threads gotta merge sometime.

[Boondock Saint]

I just also think it's time that DC starts giving other heroes attention. I am tired of seeing Superman and Batman left and right.


Green Lantern, Booster Gold, Outsiders, not-technically-heroes-but Secret Six. All great stuff.

[Fignuts]

These threads gotta merge sometime.

WE SAID NO

[Lock Jaw]

Green Lantern, Booster Gold, Outsiders, not-technically-heroes-but Secret Six. All great stuff.

I think he meant in movie-form.

All those that you mentioned, save for Outsiders, are quality comic books though.

[Kalyx triaD]

GL's certainly on his way to the big screen.

[Lock Jaw]

I can't wait for the Green Lantern animated movie. But I will.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hope Routh Didn't Change His Address:

In a decision announced Wednesday, U.S. Judge District Court Judge Stephen G. Larson found that the license fees the studio paid to corporate sibling DC Comics didn't represent "sweetheart" deals as they weren't below fair market value. That means the heirs will be able seek profits only from DC Comics -- which earned $13.6 million from Warner Bros. for the 2006 release of "Superman Returns" -- rather than from Warner Bros. as well.

The judge, who conducted a 10-day bench trial, also noted that Warner Bros. chairman Alan Horn had testified that he hopes to make another "Superman" movie but added that the property wasn't under development at the studio, that no script had been written and that the earliest another "Superman" pic could be released would be in 2012.

Toberoff also asserted in a written statement that the Siegel heirs and the heirs of co-creator Joe Shuster will own the entire Superman copyright in 2013.

"The Court pointedly ruled that if Warner Bros. does not start production on another Superman film by 2011, the Siegels will be able to sue to recover their damages," Toberoff added.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Get to work, WB! Three cheers for justice! Kinda fucked up this is what gets them on the ball but see if I give a shit.

[Nowhere Man]

I've always wondered what would happen if DC/WB fell too far behind and let the Siegel/Shuster heirs take back the rights. Would Superman suddenly just be written out of the DCU? Would Marvel capitalize and try to work out a deal?

Anywho, the Superman/Batman stills look beyond awesome. Glad to see Conroy and Daly got the voices again. If Clancy Brown isn't Lex Luthor, I'm going to be very upset.

[Kalyx triaD]

Superman in Marvel would be hilarious.

[McLegend]

If Clancy Brown isn't Lex Luthor, I'm going to be very upset.
According to IMBD he's in.

[Kalyx triaD]

This movie will be perfect.

[Fignuts]

Superman in Marvel would be hilarious.

Just give him to ed brubaker, and it will be amazing.

[Kalyx triaD]

How would they explain it? Dimensional wormhole? A new mutant? Keep the alien origin? New origin?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Marvel will make him a skrull or something :p

[Kalyx triaD]

Most likely devote an entire 'event' to his coming.

[Shadow]

RYAN REYNOLDS IS THE GREEN LANTURN HAL JORDAN!

http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmemo/2009/07/ryan-reynolds-is-the-green-lantern.html

[Kalyx triaD]

Bad casting, he had Flash written all over him.

[LuigiD]

I think Ryan Reynolds is a great actor but I don't see him as the Green Lantern. I hope that is an error.

[Shadow]

He's good for the young Jordon, but I'm hoping that if they do a sequal to it, they cast Nathen Fillion in the role. Why?

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[Fignuts]

Wtf are they thinking?

Do they think guy gardner is the main protagoist of green lantern or something?

[Fignuts]

How would they explain it? Dimensional wormhole? A new mutant? Keep the alien origin? New origin?

As much as I dislike the character, he deserves it, and the writers at marvel could make it good.

[Nowhere Man]

Supes has shown up in the Marvel Universe before during the occasional cross-over event, at least one of which (JLA/Avengers) is still considered canon I think. So at least a few of the folks in Marvel might recognize him.

That'd actually be a pretty interesting storyline: Superman trying to come to grips with being stuck in not only a different world, but an entirely different multiverse, unable to get back home. I can't really imagine any non-cosmic Marvel villains who'd give him much of a fight, though.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Supes has shown up in the Marvel Universe before during the occasional cross-over event, at least one of which (JLA/Avengers) is still considered canon I think. So at least a few of the folks in Marvel might recognize him.

That'd actually be a pretty interesting storyline: Superman trying to come to grips with being stuck in not only a different world, but an entirely different multiverse, unable to get back home. I can't really imagine any non-cosmic Marvel villains who'd give him much of a fight, though.

They'd come up with a way to depower him a little. I know Stan has said one of the biggest things he doesn't like with Superman is how blatantly overpowered he is for a mainstay character.

[LuigiD]

They'd come up with a way to depower him a little. I know Stan has said one of the biggest things he doesn't like with Superman is how blatantly overpowered he is for a mainstay character.
I agree with Stan.
Plus, I am not mistaken, in Avengers/JLA I remember that powers did not work the same way in the universes. Like when Darkseid got his hands on the infinity gauntlet it did not work.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I agree with Stan.
Plus, I am not mistaken, in Avengers/JLA I remember that powers did not work the same way in the universes. Like when Darkseid got his hands on the infinity gauntlet it did not work.

Oh I agree completely. There is no reason a main character should blatanly overpower everyone he faces. Thats why I hate Superman, there is no need to read his archs unless it's a big event because you know he's not going to have any problems.

[Jeritron]

Ryan Reynolds cast as Green Lantern.

That's awful

[Lock Jaw]

Marvel would make Superman a super-alcoholic.

Also, Ryan Reynolds as GL... I could see him as Kyle Rayner. Not my first choice for Hal Jordan though. At least the ball is rolling.

[Nowhere Man]

Honestly, Reynolds could work as Jordan, but only if they really play up his personality from before becoming a Lantern. In Emerald Dawn and in the new Secret Origins, Hal was kind of a fuck-up, getting into bar brawls, pissing off everyone who hired him, etc. Reynolds really could play that part pretty well.

[Nowhere Man]

Oh I agree completely. There is no reason a main character should blatanly overpower everyone he faces. Thats why I hate Superman, there is no need to read his archs unless it's a big event because you know he's not going to have any problems.

Thing is, he doesn't blatantly overpower everyone he faces. Most of Superman's villains (especially the ones whom Geoff Johns rebooted) are more than capable of taking him out. Between General Zod, Bizarro, and Brainiac all beating Superman to a bloody pulp at one point or another just in the last year or so--not to mention him and his entire species currently being banned from Earth--I'd say he's got plenty of problems going on. The argument of him being too powerful only really holds up if you're stacking him up against other heroes in the 'who would win a fight' sense.

[Shadow]

Why would Marvel need Superman to play with? They've already got a Superman.

Sentry.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Why would Marvel need Superman to play with? They've already got a Superman.

Sentry.

Because Superman makes A LOT of money and Sentry doesn't?

[Nowhere Man]

That would be a pretty entertaining fight, though.

[Dave Youell]

After watching Batman: The Brave and the Bold. I'm willing to except him as a Lantern, as he's more wise cracking (well everyone is in that show)

Still though, he would of been a better Flash

[The Destroyer]

Why would Marvel need Superman to play with? They've already got a Superman.

Sentry.
Marvel have got various Superman "copies" - Gladiator, Sentry, Hyperion and probably others that escape me.

[parkmania]

Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan? No. Ryan Reynolds as Guy Gardner? Money!

[Funky Fly]

Sentry is better than Superman though, because he's just as destructive as he is helpful because of his Void side and general instability. His own wife told Iron Man to hurry up and find a way to kill him.

[Kalyx triaD]

During the Book of Eli panel at Comic-Con, Gary Oldman dropped a major piece of news. He said the next Batman movie starts filming next year, and is expected to be out in 2011.

You didn't hear that from me.

[Fignuts]

Sentry is better than Superman though, because he's just as destructive as he is helpful because of his Void side and general instability. His own wife told Iron Man to hurry up and find a way to kill him.


Yeah, sentry is a far more interesting character, but superman is still more marketable, and would make marvel a shit ton of money if they got the character.

[Kalyx triaD]

Smallville ComiCon Highlights:


Metallo has the Kryptonite heart and looks sinister.
Clark and Lois get it on.
The Justice Society makes an appearance this year.
Clark dons a suit, but not the suit.
Supergirl doesn't come back.
Other Justice League members will.
General Zod is not yet general, he is merely Major Zod, and he has troops.

[Jeritron]

Can't wait to find out more about Batman 3, providing Gary Oldman wasn't yanking everyones chain.

[Lock Jaw]

Shame about Supergirl not coming back.

Justice Society? Has the potential to be awesome.

[Kalyx triaD]

Geoff's writing that episode just as he did "Legion".

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/gallery/8/2009/07/medium_3764492975_29b500b4aa_o.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Never really read any Jonah Hex.

[Kalyx triaD]

Me neither, but I enjoyed his cameos across various media.

[Lock Jaw]

Downloading the Green Lantern animated movie right now. Hopefully it is good.

[Funky Fly]

s'alright.

[Indifferent Clox]

I am also dling that gl movie

[Kalyx triaD]

lol You guys just don't care.

[Shadow]

We all care about megan fox in an old west barmaid's outfit.

[Kalyx triaD]

Megan Fox is so whatever. Pretty, yeah, not drop-dead hot. She's no Jessica Lucas.

[Indifferent Clox]

:nono:

[Kalyx triaD]

I won't argue this yet again.

[Lock Jaw]

Green Lantern movie was OK. Started off kinda "meh", but had an epic battle at the end.

[Funky Fly]

Green Lantern movie was OK. Started off kinda "meh", but had an epic battle at the end.

s'alright.

Was I right, or was I right?

[Kalyx triaD]

I was actually supposed to play Robin, in Batman Returns, about 15 years ago. But there was too many characters. I was cast, I was paid and everything. I still get residual checks. Tim Burton didn't wind up doing three, Joel Schumacher did it and he had a different vision for who Robin was. So he hired Chris O' Donnell.

[Boondock Saint]

:|

[Nowhere Man]

The fact that they wanted a goddamn Wayans to play Robin is bad enough. The fact that they're still paying him for work he never did makes blood shoot out of my eyes.

[Kalyx triaD]

Gotta be one of the strangest deals in Hollywood.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.superherohype.com/nextraimages/6250.smallville_lg_bag.jpg

[The Destroyer]

I'm assuming that's Metallo?

[Kalyx triaD]

Or a photoshopped Tony Stark. In later episodes he will sport a sleeker design. This is Metallo beta.

[Kalyx triaD]

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies:

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Oh God yes.

[D Mac]

Cool Cloe and Dr. Cox is in it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, marked out for that. Oh, and READING RAINBOW.

[Jeritron]

Kunta Kente

[D Mac]

Oh, and READING RAINBOW.

Lt. Commander Gordi LaForge

[Jeritron]

Nobody's going to post anything about Guy Ritchie directing Lobo?

[thedamndest]

I heard Guy Ritchie was directing Lobo.

[Jeritron]

Kalyx is slipping

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't even know they were making a Lobo movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wait... WTF?!

[Kalyx triaD]

Lobo teams with a small town teenaged girl to stop the creatures.

[Kalyx triaD]

Stay classy, Hollywood.

[Lock Jaw]

Perhaps they will just rip off Drax the Destroyer.

[Shadow]

This movie is gonna suck so badly.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/gallery/8/2009/09/medium_3898017478_05c6fe8a56_o.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

DC Entertainment:

As some of you may have heard, DC has created a new branch that will handle adaptations abroad. From what I've read, it seems to have a similar model of Marvel Studio's restructuring 2yrs ago. This may mean better movies and products, who knows.

[Lock Jaw]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/gallery/8/2009/09/medium_3898017478_05c6fe8a56_o.jpg

Does this season take place inside The Matrix?

[Kalyx triaD]

Lord forbid someone wears black with a trench coat.

[Fignuts]

Is that supposed to be superboy prime or something?

[Kalyx triaD]

It's Clark.

[Shadow]

That's just....just...just....yeah.

[Fignuts]

It's Clark.

Great disguise.

[Funky Fly]

So this is now Superman without being Superman, right? I mean, he's met half the Justice League already and it seems he's already fighting people in his rogues gallery.

[Kalyx triaD]

Regular rules of continuity don't apply to Smallville. In this universe, who knows when he'll become Superman.

[thedamndest]

Probably in the last episode.

[Kalyx triaD]

That would be the sensible way of ending it.

[Kalyx triaD]

"We actually don't have any current plans for Superman," said Nelson when asked if the new environment (and the recent legal decision regarding the character) made a "Superman" movie more or less likely in the near future... We've obviously done a lot of great things behind the property in our history, and it's a key part of the family, but we don't have current plans behind Superman," she said.

Wow, DC. You get a new branch off the ground that specifically deals with such matters, you're legally obligated to get into pre-production in a few months, and you have no plans for your flagship character?!

[Funky Fly]

What do you expect? It's not a cartoon or Batman, so how do you expect them to do it right?

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't see what's so fucking hard. I mean yeah... a guy like Superman isn't a cakewalk to write for, but the Smallville guys have been churning out stories for nearly a decade. It has to be something on the admin level, because directors and writers practically beg to do Superman. What's the fucking hold up? If Avengers comes out before a Superman movie I'll lose a lot of respect for DC/WB's handling of the character.

It's not even in development hell... they just don't care.

[Funky Fly]

Nigga they got Batman, why the fuck would they care? Bruce Wayne is a license to print money.

[Kalyx triaD]

A fitting element.

[Funky Fly]

I dunno, I figure they're happy as long as they have the license and no one else can do anything with it... like when Fox had Watchmen.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's pretty gay.

[Kalyx triaD]

Any Takers? Casting Call!:

[CAROL FERRIS]
26-32, a smart and attractive woman with an MBA. She started as a pilot and now runs Ferris Aircraft. She is a work-a-holic...FEMALE LEAD

[DR. HECTOR HAMMOND]
27-35, Character actor who is austere and impersonal, he is real "scummy." He is a pathologist and also the son of a Senator.

[SINESTRO]
Mid-30s to Mid-40s, he is smart, tough, intimidating and in great physical shape.

[ABIN SUR]
Mid-30s to mid-40s, he is a great warrior.

[Indifferent Clox]

I'll be dr. hammond I can do 27

[Kalyx triaD]

Says Alfred Himself:

"Johnny Depp is great in anything, but there is no Johnny Depp in this Batman," he smiled. "They tell me in no uncertain terms."

[Kalyx triaD]

DC Animated's next big DVD is...

Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths!

Also:

TPWW Theater Presents: "Superman/Batman: Public Enemies" (http://xtshare.com/toshare.php?Id=18678)

[Kalyx triaD]

Some updates on a lot of projects. (http://movies.ign.com/articles/102/1027736p1.html)

[Lock Jaw]

I love how the DC update is mainly just uncertainties and vagueness.

[Volchok]

Public Enemies was really good. Love the animated stuff DC is putting out.

[LuigiD]

Public Enemies was really good. Love the animated stuff DC is putting out.

I agree. i think it's time for DC to show us the anti-monitor in all of his glory.

[Kalyx triaD]

Peep the Newest "Loser":

Zoe Saldana (who's really getting around the geek circuit, smart girl), appears as Aisha in the movie adaption of The Losers.

http://www.superherohype.com/nextraimages/loserssetnew1.jpg

And here's the rest of the Losers.

http://www.superherohype.com/nextraimages/loserssetnew2.jpg

Zoe was previously seen in the Star Trek reboot and will appear in Avatar playing one of those blue elven thingies. The Losers feature that cool guy from Watchmen, who wants to be Lobo next...

[Kalyx triaD]

...No Evil Shall Escape My Might...:

Jackie Earle Haley is building up a resume for playing messed up individuals, as he's a front runner for Green Lantern villain Sinestro! And Brandon Routh may have work after all as Superman may have a cameo in the film. If it's anything like the rough I heard about a year ago, it could be: The ring, searching for a new host flying past Clark Kent - on the count of his dishonestly!.

[D Mac]

October 17, 2009 - If this new rumor pans out then actor Jackie Earle Haley has just become the go-to-guy for DC's live-action comic book adaptations.

Ain't It Cool News reports that a source within the production of Green Lantern that Haley is the leading candidate to play the villainous Sinestro in Warners' forthcoming movie.

Haley is best known to fanboys for playing Rorschach in Watchmen and for his supporting role in the TV series Human Target, both of which are based on DC titles. Haley will soon be seen as the new Freddy Krueger in the remake of A Nightmare on Elm Street.

AICN also adds that it's heard that, in an attempt by DC and Warners to take a page from Marvel's cross-over playbook, Superman will indeed havee a cameo in the Green Lantern movie as has been previously rumored.

[Impact!]

Isn't that basically what Kalyx said

[D Mac]

It's confirming it smartass.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nah, pretty sure it's what I said.

:shifty:

[Kalyx triaD]

Would you guys like to go here for updates from now on? Give it a try. (http://kalyxtriad360.webs.com/)

[Kalyx triaD]

Smallville's going for ten seasons. And the Green lantern movie will have over 1,000 effects shots.

[Shadow]

...10....seasons?

WHAT!?

[Lock Jaw]

I know Green Lantern by necessity needs a lot of effects shots, but I hope they don't go overboard with CG.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually if there's any superhero who gets a free pass for an overload of special effects it's Green Lantern. He can't even fly without glowing green and leaving a streak or something. And imagine if they adapt the recent GL effects from the comics where the symbol floats around them? This movie is gonna be a lot of green.

[Lock Jaw]

I was thinking more along the lines of CG aliens and CG sets. Good example is the Star Wars prequels.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't think they'll go that route. Hopefully anyway.

[Fignuts]

I think the first movie will stay pretty grounded on earth. Introducing the entire corps and having adventures in space and on OA is something that would be better for a sequel.

Although if it does happen, I can't see how it won't be a CGfest, like Lockjaw said.

[mitchables]

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Looks like it could be good.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wonder Twins on Smallville:

http://cache-06.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2009/11/500x_SM908-0006_01.jpg
http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2009/11/500x_SM908-0005_01.jpg

I'm sure they'll just be super friends with Clark and company.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pam Grier will appear in Smallville as Amanda Waller, a character who often appeared in DC stories as a government figure connected to... major shit. She may have a role in the upcoming Suicide Squad story, but will appear in the Justice Society episode.

Meanwhile, we'll probably never see Bruce Wayne and Diana on the show. This makes me sad.

[Lock Jaw]

I hope she gains 200 pounds to play the role.

[Kalyx triaD]

SHAZAM Your Damn Mouth!:

Last we heard of the Captain Marvel movie, they were adding "edge" to it as a response to TDK's success (a false move, IMO), and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson was attached as Black Adam. Now it's said that the movie is still straying from the original family comedy premise (which would have been fitting), and The Rock is in line to portray Captain Marvel himself now.

Sounds shaky right about now...

[Lock Jaw]

Also shaky is the news that they are making a Sgt. Rock movie, but instead of World War II, they have decided to make it set in the future.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Lock Jaw]

Can't wait for that one. But I will.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sources:

IGN.com
Superherohype.com
Latino Review
io9.com

[Kalyx triaD]

...It seems like they're building to Justice League instead of going with the team movie first and doing individual movies after that... They're unveiling their DC strategy in January so you'll hear more about that and they'll speak about that in the new year.

[Lock Jaw]

DC... with a... strategy?

[thedamndest]

Also known as the Avengers Plan.

[Kalyx triaD]

Whatever gets their ass in gear.

[LuigiD]

I remember when the rumor was going around about a JLA movie which did not include Christian Bale as Batman and poor intro to characters. Anything but that..please

[Reavant]

your never going to get a JLA movie with christian bale in it. His character wouldnt work in that movie anyway.

[Kalyx triaD]

Then he gets replaced. No actor/director is bigger than the mythology.

[LuigiD]

I can live without it. But it would be nice for a change to keep a Batman actor..not like that ridiculous shit they pulled off in the 90's. DC needs to get going with their movies anyways. they are way behind. I read some column and someone said something like "DC better get to it before gets bored of comic movies."

[Reavant]

its not even the fact that is christian bale. the batman character from the recent movies wouldnt work. The 90s batman is the type of batman you would get in the jla movies.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think the brooding "I lost my parents, love, and friend" Batman would be great. The concept of the super-team invites heroes of wildly different backgrounds. Continuity wise it doesn't have to be TDK Batman in JLA, some revision is needed.

[Reavant]

yea thats what im saying

[Kalyx triaD]

Blake Lively of Gossip Girl will be GL's Carol Ferris. Hal's girl and eventually Star Sapphire of the recent 'girly' Lanterns (hard to keep up). Most likely her extraordinary duties will be downplayed in the first movie. Her role in the animated New Frontier is probably an accurate idea of how she will be used in live action.

[Shadow]

Hey Kalyx. I might not read much in the way of comics but Star Saphhire has been a major GL villian for years now. It's only been recently they've gone with these multiple Lanturn corps due to Blackest Night being in full swing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hey Kalyx. I might not read much in the way of comics but Star Saphhire has been a major GL villian for years now. It's only been recently they've gone with these multiple Lanturn corps due to Blackest Night being in full swing.

You're right, I was thinking Carol was some 'new generation' Star Sapphire. I never knew who Star Sapphire really was until recently. I've only just studied up my GL knowledge.

[parkmania]

Actor Peter Sarsgaard is in negotiations with Warner Bros. to play a key role in the new Green Lantern film starring Ryan Reynolds that Martin Campbell is directing. Sarsgaard will portray the chief villain in the new movie, Hector Hammond, the son of senator who acquires great psychic powers from a meteorite. Created by John Broome and Gil Kane, Hammond first appeared in 1961 and is that relatively rare supervillain who does not use an alias.



According to The Hollywood Reporter, Warner Bros. hopes to get the big-budget Green Lantern movie in production in New Orleans in March. Sarsgaard, who starred as a charming seducer opposite Carey Mulligan in An Education, one of the best films of 2009, is increasingly typical of the high quality actors willing to take key roles in comic book-based films.

[Shadow]

...Hector Hammond? No Sinestro?

[Lock Jaw]

Sinestro is going to be in it as well. Not cast yet.

Also, in other news, apparently a Spectre animated short is going to come with the new animated Justice League: Crisis on Two Worlds movie. Spectre is a pretty awesome character who I always felt has movie potential. Don't think he has ever appeared in any of the DC cartoons though.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sinestro is going to be in it as well. Not cast yet.

Mark Strong.

[Skippord]

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/01/14/jackie-earle-haley.jpg After news broke yesterday that Peter Sarsgaard would likely play the villainous Dr. Hector Hammond in Green Lantern (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/01/peter_sarsgaard_is_your_enemy.php), some of you noted, "What the hey? Why isn't Sinestro the bad guy? He's the yellow yin to Green Lantern's yellow-hating yang, he has a big pink head, he looks like David Niven, and he's pretty much the only Green Lantern villain anyone knows." (Paraphrased.)
Well, guess what, guys: it turns out Sinestro probably is in it! And if he is, Jackie Earle Haley is totally playing him. Hitfix (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/is-sinestro-in-green-lantern-after-all) has heard that, "based on the relationship they have with [Haley] from "Watchmen" and "A Nightmare On Elm Street," Jackie Earle Haley is the only choice for Sinestro by the studio," and hints that perhaps he's being set up for villainy in a sequel. So maybe Sinestro will be a good guy in this film, then in the second reveal, "Guess what, Green Lantern, I'm bad! You should have guessed because my name basically contains the word 'sinister'!" And Green Lantern will say, "Welp, etymology fucked me again," which is his catchphrase.

[Indifferent Clox]

I remember when green arrow stole his catchphrase but coudn't pronounce etymology right.

[Fignuts]

http://verydemotivational.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/129068914885200491.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Odessa Rae has been cast as Silver Banshee on Smallville. Check her out on the 16th eps.

[Lock Jaw]

I also hear that Perry White and Martha Kent are both going to appear sometime near the end of the season.

[Kalyx triaD]

Happier to see Mama Kent return. She was something of an anchor for the show.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache-06.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/500x_1264531942-kilowog.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

GL in Space...:

I don't know what the percentage is, but there's quite a bit in space. The initial trip up there, the training sessions he has to go through in order to become a Green Lantern. And there, of course at the end, he goes back up to Oa again. And there's a couple bits in between. There'll be enough, I think, to satisfy anybody.

[LuigiD]

Good news about GL.

[Kalyx triaD]

Cartoon Network Scores:

Young Justice, a new animated show based on Teen Titans/Titans (but not linked to the recent show) features Nightwing, Aqualad, and Connor fucking Kent. The style is somewhere between the anime-inspired Teen Titans and Bruce Timm's DCAU style.


Bruce Timm is also working on a Green Lantern series, also for Cartoon Network.

[parkmania]

http://cache-06.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/500x_1264531942-kilowog.jpg

Is that Kilowog or did the captain of the Vogon Demolition Fleet mate with a Rancor?

[LuigiD]

Reminds me a bit of those guys from the Fifth Element
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fifth_element_04.jpg

[Shadow]

Cartoon Network Scores:

Young Justice, a new animated show based on Teen Titans/Titans (but not linked to the recent show) features Nightwing, Aqualad, and Connor fucking Kent. The style is somewhere between the anime-inspired Teen Titans and Bruce Timm's DCAU style.


Bruce Timm is also working on a Green Lantern series, also for Cartoon Network.

To be canceled after a unsatsifactory ending that leaves many fans scratching their head and going the fuck did I just watch?

But the ride up to that point will be awsome.

[Lock Jaw]

Why wouldn't they just make Young Justice as Robin/Superboy/Impulse like it was in the comics? Stupid.

Young Justice is one of my all time favourite comics too.

[parkmania]

The sequel to Sherlock Holmes, which has already pulled Robert Downey Jr. off Cowboys and Aliens (see “Not So Fast, Pardner”), has now taken director Guy Ritchie off Lobo, which had been planned as his next film. Joel Silver, who’s the producer on both Sherlock Holmes and Lobo, told the L.A. Times’ Geoff Boucher that he expected to move forward on Lobo with a new director. Sherlock’s nearly $400 million in worldwide box office, and Warner’s desire to turn the property into a franchise as soon as possible, was the reason for the decision, according to Silver.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why wouldn't they just make Young Justice as Robin/Superboy/Impulse like it was in the comics? Stupid.

Young Justice is one of my all time favourite comics too.

Believe in Bruce Timm.

Guess we have to wait longer for Lobo. :-\

[Lock Jaw]

I dunno. Haven't seen any news anywhere (but here) about the Young Justice thing so I'm thinking it might be fake.

[Kalyx triaD]

Lost the URL to the source, I'll service ya when I find it again.

[Lock Jaw]

Don't know if I want to be serviced by you. It might be real awkward between us afterward.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just avoid eye contact.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Gray]

The episode of Smallville thats due to run this Friday, from what i see its being shown as a 2hour episode?

Does anyone know if its one complete episode or more of a two-parter?

If i remember this was down to the Haiti earthquake so everything had to be shuffled around.

[Lock Jaw]

It is a two-parter that makes one complete episode.

[Kalyx triaD]

Calling it a "TV movie".

[Kalyx triaD]

Superman... Begins?:

Christopher Nolan, father of the current money printing Batman movie series, is reportedly put on task for Superman's reboot. Under what duty nobody knows for certain. He'll 'oversee' the project in some fashion. A phrase that stood out was "No Singer, no Routh".

Don't know what to think.

[Lock Jaw]

I think "Just somebody... anybody... make a Superman movie!"

[XL]

This seems like as good a place as any to ask this question...So, if I wanted to "get into" Batman comics, where would be a good place to start?

I really liked the style of the stuff they did with the Arkham Asylum game, did they take inspiration from any vein of the comics or did they go in their own direction?

[dronepool]

This seems like as good a place as any to ask this question...So, if I wanted to "get into" Batman comics, where would be a good place to start?

I really liked the style of the stuff they did with the Arkham Asylum game, did they take inspiration from any vein of the comics or did they go in their own direction?



You're in luck, you can use Wiki to catch up on what's going on in Batman in the ongoing comics.

Arkham Asylum is a comic by Grant Morrison but the game was not based on the book, just maybe some influence. I would check out the ever popular and (considered over rated) but still really damn good (but short) book, it's called Killing Joke. This has Joker shoot Batgirl, cripple her, take her to an abandoned amusement park and take pictures of her naked in a cage...

Year One
Arkham Asylum
Killing Joke
Dark Victory
Long Halloween
Hush vol 1 and 2

Those are some of popular (and good) Bat-books you can pick up to get into it. I would def hit up wikipedia first though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Batman_comics

Look under Modern Batman.




Important arcs

* Daughter of the Demon and major battles with Ra's al-Ghul: #243 - 245.
* Year One: #404 - 407.
* A Death in the Family: #426 - 429
* Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying #440 - 442
* Knightfall #491 - 500
* Batman: Prodigal #512 - 514
* Batman: No Man's Land #563 - 574
* Hush #608 - 619
* Broken City #620 - 625
* Batman and Son #655 - 658
* Batman R.I.P. #676 - 681

Don't start with RIP. Batman isn't 'dead', he's just been transported back in time with no memory.... but he's getting out of this.


http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2010/01/batmanrobw01cvr.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2010/02/batmanrobw02cvr.jpg


http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2010/02/batmanrobw03cvr.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2010/02/batman_robw04cvr.jpg

To sorta explain those pics-

Look at this brilliant catch from CBR-

As we see in the first few pages of Final Crisis #7, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Supergirl and Captain Marvel put items into a rocket, or a "message in a bottle," and is later seen with Anthro.

The items, that we can see, placed into the rocket are Superman's cape (or someone's S cape), a smaller version of the Bat-Symbol and the story of Batman and the Final Crisis.

As we see in the last page of Final Crisis #7, Bruce Wayne is drawing a Bat-Emblem on the stone wall. Although, Grant Morrison stated that Bruce Wayne will have no memory of who he is. My theory is that Bruce Wayne may have read the newspaper, and that is where he learns of Batman.

(I understand that we may find this out once The Return of Bruce Wayne comes out, I would just like to refresh what we know about or may think.)

What does anybody else think?

Source (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=10510910&postcount=1)

[Lock Jaw]

Or check out DCs graphic novel page: http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/

Many Batman things to choose from there. Make sure to check under "G" for Gotham Central as well, because that was a pretty awesome series.

[parkmania]

Tim Robbins is set to join the Green Lantern feature cast as Senator Hammond, according to the Hollywood Reporter’s Heat Vision blog. The Senator is the father of villain Hector Hammond (played by Peter Sarsgaard, see “Green Lantern Villain Cast”).



Other cast members include Blake Lively as Carol Ferris (see “Gossip Girl Is Carol Ferris”) and Ryan Reynolds in the title role (see “Green Lantern Gets a Date”).



The film is set to start shooting in March in New Orleans (if it’s cleaned up after the post-Superbowl parties by then).

[XL]

Thanks for the help there guys. Is it possible to collect the Graphic Novels in a straightforward way? I don't really wanna be spiralling off into spin-offs and crossovers if I can help it.

[Fignuts]

Tim Robbins is an excellent actor. Should be good. Still think Ryan Reynolds is a horrible choice for Hal Jordan. Especially considering how perfect he'd be for Guy Gardner.

[parkmania]

Especially considering how perfect he'd be for Guy Gardner.

This. 1,000 times THIS.

[dronepool]

Thanks for the help there guys. Is it possible to collect the Graphic Novels in a straightforward way? I don't really wanna be spiralling off into spin-offs and crossovers if I can help it.

Yeah, you can. Most trades 'are within its own book' collected story arcs. Most of them. Crossovers just add to the story from other comic/character perspectives.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or Ryan as Wally West, at least how the DCAU portrayed him. Happy for Ryan professionally, with him punching his ticket to the JLA movie, but I imagined other guys being Hal Jordan - and so many other characters fit for Ryan. Kyle Rayner (if he's gonna be a GL), aforementioned Guy Gardner, Wally West (that he was so going to do after Blade Trinity with David Goyer), others that I may forget.

They could save face by casting David Duchovny as The Question. Just cause.

[parkmania]

XL, if you want to read one of the best Batman stories (although it takes place outside "current continuity"), you need to read The Dark Knight Returns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Returns

[parkmania]

They could save face by casting David Duchovny as The Question. Just cause.

Or would they use the Renee Montoya version? If so, I could maybe see Janeane Garafolo in the role.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or would they use the Renee Montoya version? If so, I could maybe see Janeane Garafolo in the role.

Are you serious?

[parkmania]

Which part?


I'll tell you tomorrow. I'm signing off for the night.

[Shadow]

I would hurt you if you used the Renee version of the Question. Persobally I vote for Jeffery Coombs. He was kinda...perfect.

[XL]

Yeah, you can. Most trades 'are within its own book' collected story arcs. Most of them. Crossovers just add to the story from other comic/character perspectives.
Right, OK. So, where do I start?

[Lock Jaw]

Well what are you looking for?

"Classic" stories?
Non-Continuity stories?
Current stories?

[XL]

Basically something I can follow fairly easily in terms of collecting (i.e. no cross-overs or spin offs). I'm looking to collect so non-continuity isn't a problem (i.e. looking for something continuous that I can follow). Something similar in story/styling to the recent films and/or game preferably.

[Lock Jaw]

Check out some lists on Amazon. They've got tons:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Batman-Chronology-Batman-From-The-Beginning/lm/RUNBKD5713ZHY/ref=cm_srch_res_rpli_alt_3

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A2TD9GO8W67DD1/ref=cm_pdp_lm_all

[Jeritron]

Read

Year One
Arkham Asylum
Long Halloween
Dark Victory
Hush vol 1 &2
The Dark Knight Returns


In that order.

[Fignuts]

Basically something I can follow fairly easily in terms of collecting (i.e. no cross-overs or spin offs). I'm looking to collect so non-continuity isn't a problem (i.e. looking for something continuous that I can follow). Something similar in story/styling to the recent films and/or game preferably.

Don't really care what you're looking for, Dark Knight Returns is a must have.

[Jeritron]

Read Superman Red Son while you're at it, because Batman's awesome in it. Plus it's awesome in general

[Lock Jaw]

Honestly think Dark Knight Returns is way overrated. Its good, but isn't the be all and end all of Batman like some people think it is. (Not saying people here think that, but I've seen people who do)

[Kalyx triaD]

Read Superman Red Son while you're at it, because Batman's awesome in it. Plus it's awesome in general

I think Red Son plainly and clearly states the relationship between DC's Trinity - Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. That trap scene was great. I love Red Son.

[parkmania]

Warner Bros. has confirmed that The Losers, which is based on Andy Diggle’s Vertigo comic, has been moved from its original debut date of April 9th to June 4th. With Fox’s The A-Team opening just a week later on June 11th, the move sets up a box office battle royale between competing teams of highly-trained Special Forces soldiers who find themselves on the wrong side of the law. Comparisons between these two films were inevitable, but this scheduling move could well end up backfiring for one or both of the films.



Movie scheduling is an art and an extremely difficult one at that. One of the few ironclad rules that the studios have come up with for this often treacherous process is “Don’t compete with yourself,” and this is the stricture behind the scheduling change for The Losers.



Warner Bros.’ Avatar-fueled decision to make its Clash of the Titans into a 3-D film via a computer process (see “Clash of the Titans in 3-D”) had consequences. By opting for 3-D at the last minute, Warners was forced to move back the opening of Clash of the Titans by one week to April 2nd to accommodate the 3-D processing. This left only a one-week gap between Clash and The Losers, which stars Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Zoe Saldana, Chris Evans and Idris Elba. Warners decided to move The Losers to June for a face-to-face combat with The A-Team, which had long since staked out its June 11th opening date. This could be a risky move for Warners since The A-Team, thanks to its long exposure on TV, is the far more well-known property, but it could also allow The Losers to steal some of The A-Team’s thunder.

[Kalyx triaD]

?:

Rumors start up again for Batman 3's possibly plot and characters. Being that this would be the umpteenth time we've heard about the Riddler's inclusion, I'm beginning to find this factual. Riddler would be a villain right up Nolan's thematic alley, and the videogame Arkham Asylum's audio recording show that he can be just as disturbed and unsettling as The Joker - even if he isn't as iconic. Now let's address these other rumors...

The appearance of Babara Gordon and Dick Grayson sounds like hogwash, but not of the cameo table. Nolan went on record saying Robin's not swinging in his series, but a cameo would be fair. Barbara was in fact in The Dark Knight, held captive with her brother at the film's climax. She was a child there so yeah... no sidekicks anytime soon.

The mention of Lex Luthor was interesting. With Nolan overseeing a Superman reboot it wouldn't be out of the question for him to play with his newly extended sandbox of characters. If he introduces his Luthor early in Batman 3 and let's his vision loose in a proper Superman movie, I can buy that. Especially if Nolan presents the white-collar criminal Luthor (also in Nolan's thematic alley), perhaps an antagonist to Bruce Wayne?

All rumors, though.

[Rammsteinmad]

I haven't really been following this thread, so sorry if I'm a bit off-topic here, but just wanted to say I always thought Batman 'Hush' was way overrated. Great artwork (Jim Lee right?) but overall thought the story was kinda lame and just an excuse to get loadsa different characters into it.

War Games on the other hand is truly epic IMO.

[Kalyx triaD]

I haven't read the entirety of Hush but I do have all of War Games and it is an epic Batman story.

[Fignuts]

The whole war games/ war drums saga is awesome.

Black Mask is so great in it.

[Lock Jaw]

Return of Hush and Heart of Hush stories are better than the original Hush story in my opinion.

[Fignuts]

I would agree with that, but I like Hush better anyway, just for the art alone.

[McLegend]

I'm just about read Long Halloween.

Now what's a good Superman graphic novel to read? I suppose I'm looking for like a classic story?

[Rammsteinmad]

I liked 'Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey' I think it was called. It's quite old now, but to be honest I never really cared much for Superman unless he was against Doomsday.

[Lock Jaw]

Non continuity Superman stuff:

Superman: Red Son - What would happen in Superman's rocket landed in Soviet Russia?

Kingdom Come - Set in "the future", where Superman has given up. (he comes back)

Superman: Secret Identity - Set in the "real world", where a dude named Clark Kent discovers he actually does have the powers of Superman

In continuity stuff:

Superman: Birthright - Ok, so this actually isn't in continuity anymore. An origin for the "modern age" Superman, that was retconned away less than two years later. Awesome story though.

As for classic, you can't go wrong with The Death and Return of Superman.

Superman: For All Seasons is also good and is done by the same people who did Long Halloween.

[McLegend]

Yeah I will def read Red Son eventually. I think right now even though it isn't what I said I wanted I might go with Whatever happened to the Man of tomorrow. Since I really like Alan Moore.

Did Superman Returns take any stuff from any Graphic Novels?

I think the Death/Return story is what I might end up getting first.

[McLegend]

O also Long Halloween was really good.

[Lock Jaw]

Superman Returns is actually funny, because around the same time in the comics they were having a story where Superman "returns" after a year of having no powers and it is very similar. Only instead of using the krpytonian crystal to scam real estate, Luthor uses it to try to destroy Metropolis and Superman.

The story is called "Up, Up, and Away" and it is actually pretty awesome. So is the story right after, "Back in Action".

[McLegend]

Excellent stuff there, Lock Jaw. Putting them on the list.

[Lock Jaw]

Should definitely check out J. Michael Straczynski's Superman: Earth-One when it comes out: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/JMS-Week-Superman-Earth-One-100216.html

It will probably be Awesome.

[dronepool]

Superman? Anything by Geoff Johns and Gary Frank.

http://i.livescience.com/images/smso_1_5p_prev-4-copy.jpg

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/0/10921_400x600.jpg

:y::y:

[Fignuts]

Fucking hate superman. Only time I've ever enjoyed him is in all the elseworlds stuff. He's awesome in Kingdom Come, All Star Superman, and Birthright, I think it's called. Have yet to read Red Son, but I hear it's awesome.

Tried to get into the main continuity superman, but he's just boring as hell to me.

[Vastardikai]

Fucking hate superman. Only time I've ever enjoyed him is in all the elseworlds stuff. He's awesome in Kingdom Come, All Star Superman, and Birthright, I think it's called. Have yet to read Red Son, but I hear it's awesome.

Tried to get into the main continuity superman, but he's just boring as hell to me.

This. I always preferred Batman (and even Flash and Green Lantern) to Supes because Supes is too overpowered. Bats you know, deep down, is mortal. Flash is mortal. And even with the mighty power ring, Green Lantern is mortal. I don't get that feel with Superman. Only time I cared about him was during the initial fight with Doomsday.

[Optimus Bone 69]

Anyone seen the new Justice League Cartoon movie?
it really sucks balls

[Kalyx triaD]

I like Superman.

[Fignuts]

This. I always preferred Batman (and even Flash and Green Lantern) to Supes because Supes is too overpowered. Bats you know, deep down, is mortal. Flash is mortal. And even with the mighty power ring, Green Lantern is mortal. I don't get that feel with Superman. Only time I cared about him was during the initial fight with Doomsday.

Also, he's so damn cookie cutter.

[Jeritron]

I grew to love Superman for what he represents. He's such a classic mythological character. He's so iconic that there's a lot you can do with that.
He just needs to be approached the right way. Stories like Red Son and For All Seasons do it perfectly.
He's very human when you consider what it's like for him to live here on earth and be overpowered.

Plus there's the whole dynamic of Superman being his true identity, and Clark Kent the adopted persona. The complete opposite of most other superheroes.
I think he's interesting from a literary standpoint.

And yes, he's pretty cookie cutter but he made the mold.

[Inadequacy]

And yes, he's pretty cookie cutter but he made the mold.

My thoughts exactly

[McLegend]

I enjoy Superman.

[Vastardikai]

Plus there's the whole dynamic of Superman being his true identity, and Clark Kent the adopted persona. The complete opposite of most other superheroes.
I think he's interesting from a literary standpoint.

This part reminds me MUCH MORE of Bats. Bruce Wayne truly died the night his parents did. He then went on a mission to become vengeance. The only reason why he exists as Bruce Wayne at this point is to bankroll being Batman.

Also, I would like to add that Nightwing is the greatest name for a super hero EVER.

[Lock Jaw]

I am interested in seeing The Spectre short that is on the new Justice League: Crisis on Two World's DVD. The main feature I am kind of indifferent to.

[Nowhere Man]

I still don't see where people get the idea that Superman is "overpowered" or just otherwise never gets hurt, considering that he gets the crap beaten out of him on a pretty regular basis by his villains. Sure, he wouldn't have any trouble taking on most of Batman's guys, but neither would Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, or even most of Marvel's heroes.

Plus I think Clark Kent is way more of an identifiable character than Bruce Wayne. Guy was raised in a working-class family, works a regular blue-collar job where he isn't the most popular guy, had to bust his ass to get the attention of the woman he likes, and still has trouble determining his identity and place in the world. Bruce Wayne on the other hand is a billionaire ninja who inherited his fortune without having to actually work a day in his life to support his habit/obsession, and not only never loses a fight but never even loses an argument. Blah.

[Kalyx triaD]

And he endangers children, tortures, lies to his friends, and will beat the shit out of you for robbing a 7/11 on his watch. The guy is crazy cakes.

[Nowhere Man]

I'd like to point out that despite being more of a Supes fan, I'm a huge fan of the Batman mythos- just not Batman himself. All of his villains are either frightening or at least intriguing, all of his sidekicks have very definite development and growth as characters, and the hype surrounding the Bat is just all kinds of cool. But Bruce himself is just...meh. He only has the two emotions: brooding and snarling. And the more I think about it, the less sense it makes that the JLA even keeps him around, considering how much of a douche he is to most of them.

[Kalyx triaD]

I guess being a master strategist badass keeps him in the gang.

[Jeritron]

I think him being the most popular superhero and selling a ton of comic books has a lot to do with it

[Kalyx triaD]

There's the business discussion and the fictional discussion.

[Jeritron]

But no matter how you slice it, the former dictates the latter

[Funky Fly]

And he endangers children, tortures, lies to his friends, and will beat the shit out of you for robbing a 7/11 on his watch. The guy is crazy cakes.

Crazy cakes > boring cakes

Superman is the ultimate pussy.

[Fignuts]

Give me Sentry over Supes, any day of the week.

[Lock Jaw]

Superman is by far my favorite superhero, but I have long since given up any hope of defending him in the eyes of others.

[Kalyx triaD]

It has dawned on me while watching Memento that Carrie-Anne Moss absolutely has to portray Selina Kyle if Nolan's including Catwoman in the next Bat-film. I still have a soft spot having Rachel Weisz in the role, if anything but for her eyes, but I think Carrie-Anne would add some power to the movie as Catwoman under her former director.

[Skippord]

I've never really followed DC at all except for Batman so I don't know if this is talked about ever, but I always wondered how everyone always seems to know about and where to find kryptonite?

it's weird to me

[Kalyx triaD]

Kryptonite was actually quiet rare until the Superman/Batman arc that introduced Supergirl. After that everybody could find all sorts of the stuff (though Batman had heroes collect them all over the world).

It's currently back to it's rare status.

[Skippord]

I think it'd be pretty sweet to end Superman by having someone go crazy and just beat him to death with a kryptonite pipe

[McLegend]

In other news Batman & Robin is on right now. Beyond Awesomeness