DC Universe Thread

[Fignuts]

Well Brad Meltzer only wrote for 13 issues, so I'm going to take a shot in the dark, and say that's when it start's to taper off.


Also, Meltzer >>>>>>>> Garth Ennis

Ennis writes some really good stories in Preacher, and the boys, but he tries too hard to appeal to the mature audience.

One single disgusting, brutal moment, that has been properly built up to, has way more meaning and impact than a comic full of the stuff. Meltzer knows this, and it's why Identity Crisis and Tornado's path hit so hard. I've suspected Ennis was overrated for a while now, and this just confirms it.

[Rammsteinmad]

That Green Lantern film looks cool, but not too keen on the costume, what's up with it looking really CGI.

[Kalyx triaD]

It is CGI. I was hoping it would look better since they were so inclined to do it this way, but it still came off obvious. Everything else is alright.

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah, the effects and everything looks cool, but fuck when he goes into his costume it's stands out like a great big massive... CGI costume!!!

[XL]

I saw an ad in the newspaper for Batman Live, any ideas?

[Kalyx triaD]

That must be the live tour they're planning for Batman. Not a musical, but some kind of stage production.

Weird.

[Jeritron]

Damn that Green Lantern costume looks pretty bad in places. I was afraid of that. The rest looks okay I guess. Not much to see other than a few quick shots though.

[Blitz]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=25237#int20

RUMOR: Batman TV Series Planned to Reintroduce Joker Character Without Ledger

One of our insider sources has sent in the early thinking about plans WB is hatching for the blockbuster Batman franchise, and this time its about a move to the small screen after The Dark Knight Rises.

WB has no plans to rush out another Batman Movie once Chris Nolan has completed The Dark Knight Rises. Instead, the heads in power are looking at something to do with TV.

The idea comes from the successful tv transitions of SmallVille and Sherlock Holmes--the Hartswood Films/BBC Television show of the same name starring Benedict Cumberbatch that screened recently.

So, WB is looking at putting together a live action Batman TV series. The Head Executive in charge (name removed to protect source) who has overseen the development and production of such notable hits as: "Two and a Half Men", "The Mentalist", "ER", "The West Wing", "Without A Trace" and "Friends", has been given the task. He would like to keep it in line with the Nolan movies. No word on any stories or script, but he wants a real world feel with young adult audiences in mind".

It has also been mentioned that this is a way to re-introduce The Joker as a completely new version and not step on Heath’s memory/version, as WB knows this is a sensitive subject. They believe that the Joker alone will garner ratings through the roof and are already planning on a closed set with extremely tight security to prevent any leaked footage.

The Actor they have mentioned as a "type" to play Batman/Bruce Wayne is Karl Urban. Karl plays Dr. McCoy in the new Star Trek franchise.


Keep in mind, that this VERY EARLY talk, but if it is true that a WB head has been put in charge of development, it shows that they are indeed serious about a move to the small screen.

Hmmmm. Dunno about this, if true.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://io9.com/5692485/watch-the-six+minute-preview-for-young-justice-starring-dcs-iciest-supervillains

No YouTube link yet. The show looks great.

[The Destroyer]

I saw an ad in the newspaper for Batman Live, any ideas?
http://www.batmanlive.com/home.php

[Jeritron]

I will go see that Batman live thing, no doubt

[Lock Jaw]

http://io9.com/5692485/watch-the-six+minute-preview-for-young-justice-starring-dcs-iciest-supervillains

No YouTube link yet. The show looks great.

Still on the fence.

[dronepool]

Anybody see Brave and The Bold: The Knights of Tomorrow?

Awesome stuff.

[Kalyx triaD]

Possible Overview of Superman Reboot:

"[Kent is] a young journalist, traveling for the globe, who would rather solve problems and help people without resorting to using his special powers. When he is compelled to use his secret powers to intervene in a crisis in West Africa, Clark returns to Smallville to learn more about his origins and the hero he was born to be."

It's been noted as sounding like Batman Begins, but I personally see a bit of Birthright in there. Also:

Rumor has it director Zack Snyder visited Avatar's special effects crew, because he wants his version of Superman — rumored to be Watchmen's Matthew Goode — to be fully CG. Has Snyder been smoking the Ava-crack?

Movienewz is reporting that director Snyder, "has plans to rely heavily on CGI for the Man of Steel." Which we can only imagine would mean Goode in the flesh for all of the Clark Kent shots, and some sort of Green Lantern-meets-Avatar CG nonsense when he's kicking butt as the Man Of Steel.

People need to calm down. Snyder loves to pretty up shots but this shit about Avatar-ish Superman doesn't even describe his style. Goode as Superman may work, but I'll miss Routh.

[Fox]

Possible Overview of Superman Reboot:

"[Kent is] a young journalist, traveling for the globe, who would rather solve problems and help people without resorting to using his special powers. When he is compelled to use his secret powers to intervene in a crisis in West Africa, Clark returns to Smallville to learn more about his origins and the hero he was born to be."

It's been noted as sounding like Batman Begins, but I personally see a bit of Birthright in there. Also:



People need to calm down. Snyder loves to pretty up shots but this shit about Avatar-ish Superman doesn't even describe his style. Goode as Superman may work, but I'll miss Routh.

Unless Doomsday rises from the plains of West Africa, I'm not sold on this shit at all.

Plus, a CG Superman? Fuck that. This isn't Doctor Manhattan for Christ's sake.

[Kalyx triaD]

Withholding judgment, because Snyder made 300 and Sucker Punch.

[Nowhere Man]

Hmmm......well, sounds like they're pulling the opening sequence right out of Birthright, which is my absolute favorite version of the origin-story, so I'm happy with that.

I'll reserve judgment on how CGing Superman will turn out. I'm assuming they mean for when he's actually flying around and moving at super-speed and whatnot, because the idea of him just being all CGI all the time makes no sense. Unless the whole world is also CGI and they're going for a Beowulf sort of thing.

Also, why does everyone want them to do Doomsday? He's a fucking bland and boring monster (I can't even really call him a "villain" or even a "character," because literally all he does is roar and break stuff), which would make for some pretty dull storytelling without being backed up by more interesting villains. Not to mention that since the only notable thing Doomsday ever did was the Death of Superman (which was a pretty shitty comic itself, honestly), it makes no sense whatsoever for him to be in the very first movie of a new series, since y'know, they're trying to start a new series instead of end it.

[Kalyx triaD]

They should stop dicking around and give us 'corporate criminal' Luthor, perhaps played by the guy from Dexter. That's my favorite Luthor and he would absolutely be a topical villain. And if they're making a tale around the nature of having great power, perhaps they should toss Parasite in there. Raimi liked to form a story and choose villains that fit within Peter's current struggle, so if this Superman is learning about having power he should face someone who mistreats the notion.

Parasite would of course be a product of Luthor Corp, not that Lex would be convicted of anything.

[Nowhere Man]

I've never been a fan of evil corporate Lex, at least when that's the dominant part of his character-- it always came off as a second rate ripoff of Norman Osborn or Kingpin to me. I don't mind it when Lexcorp and everything else is just a by-product of him being a mega genius, since that was able to combine the modern evil billionaire with the old world-conquering mad scientist. Something closer to how Lex was in the Justice League cartoons.

But then, that's mostly because I prefer villains to be more hands-on and large scale, instead of just setting someone else to take the fall. Kingpin is probably my absolute least favorite villain for that exact reason.

[Kalyx triaD]

But those are the most effective villains! I remember Roland Dagget in Batman TAS, and getting legitimately pissed when he walked off a scene clean when we all knew he cause a lot of messes. So when the hero gets his hands on a villain like that, it can be very satisfying.

[Nowhere Man]

In the case of street-level heroes like Batman, sure, villains like that work. But if you're going to have a legitimate arch-enemy for Superman, he needs to be every bit as massive-scale as he is, someone who's just as much of a threat to the entire human race as Superman is a benefit to it. Not someone who sits around in his office going on about how "untouchable" he is.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not to sound like one of those nerds but Luthor Corp is international, there's branches all over the world. I'd readily believe it has a private military, though no stories presented that far as I know.

[Nowhere Man]

Well, I'm not saying to not have Lexcorp/Luthorcorp as an element of it; most of my favorite Luthor stories have it in there. And I really don't want to see him running around in that ridiculous green battle-suit that he started wearing in the early 80s. But I've always felt that Lex is the kind of guy who's bent more on gaining genuine power rather than just making money, using his company and his wealth as just another means to an end for some even bigger master plan. Post-Crisis Luthor (especially during Byrne's original run) was more just bent on making himself richer, which to me made him less of an actual villain and more of just a dick.

I prefer the Armani suits and the giant tower to the old days of the purple spandex (or the real-estate schemes from the Donner movies), but to me, the obsessive megalomaniac is a far more interesting villain than a guy who just wants his stocks to rise a little higher.

[Kalyx triaD]

I thought Luthor was traditional motivated toward world domination, influence, power... It's always more than money for him. I merely left that without saying. I pretty much agree with you, just want you to know I'm not talking about some strictly CEO Lex.

[Nowhere Man]

Ah, I gotcha. Again, when I think of people talking about "Lexcorp Lex," I always think of late 80s John Byrne-era Lex, who again, was just kind of a half-assed ripoff of Kingpin. Which isn't surprising, since so much of Byrne-era Supes felt like just a half-assed ripoff of the late 80s Marvel universe.

[Kalyx triaD]

History repeats itself with Green "Iron Man" Lantern. Though I hope in doing so, the movie still entertains.

[Blitz]

Goode is way too scrawny. Hope he bulks up, if it's true.

[Fignuts]

Dunno, evil corporate Luthor was absolutely amazing in 52.

[Kalyx triaD]

Goode is way too scrawny. Hope he bulks up, if it's true.

He'd obviously work out, that's a given.

[Reavant]

I love the smallville portrayal of luther after he made the final turn and became legit evil

[dronepool]

Young Justice was awesome.

[mitchables]

was just about to post about that. yeah, young justice pilot was fantastic. really enjoyed it. i like the new aqualad too. slightly different origin to the comic for obvious reasons but still has useful powers that make him > aquaman.

[Nowhere Man]

I was really impressed with Young Justice. Like, pretty much every part of the pilot I enjoyed.

The characters were generally well-written (though I could've done without Speedy, tbh), and Robin and Aqualad had plenty of awesome moments in particular. The art style is really cool looking, and most of the animation is great. I like the inclusion of pretty much the entire Justice League as well, something that I really thought was missing from the Teen Titans cartoon, and I'm quite interested in seeing where they're going to go with the show's villains.

I'm sure there are a few snagging points I could complain about, but the positives of the show really outweigh the negatives. If the rest of the show is as good as the pilot, then I'm sold.

[Lock Jaw]

I was neither over or underwhelmed by the pilot.

There are elements that make me want to keep watching, and other things that make me go "meh". I will probably watch a few more episodes.

One thing I will say is that I really really really hate The Guardian's redesign.

Nevertheless, I hope Cadmus sticks around. I have a feeling the story there isn't anywhere close to done, especially with Amanda Spence (the black scientist chick) still around (She was a big villain in the Superboy comics).

[Nowhere Man]

I dunno, I kinda liked Guardian's look--it made him look more like a super-cop and less like a Captain America knockoff.

[Lock Jaw]

I guess I see your point.

Still, just one of those things I am gonna hate no matter what because I love The Guardian in the comics.

[Miotch]

Quick, someone photoshop this.

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Watchmen/matthew_goode_as_ozymandias_watchmen_movie_image.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

......into what?

[loopydate]

:lol:

[Miotch]

Superman. Isn't that the guy rumored to be playing him in the 'reboot'?

[Kalyx triaD]

In the race to replace Smallville after it's [presumed] final season, DC/WB is conceptualizing Teen Titan's Raven for television. A surprisingly rumor, but kinda likely. The occult and supernatural has been successful for WB before, with Supernatural now and Charmed in the past. Her popularity in the Teen Titans cartoon lifted her from the shadows of DC's roster. Her back story is also more open to presentation than that stupid Robin show they were so close to doing.

Or they could just do Gotham City PD and cast young police recruits. That's just me.

[Miotch]

They should call it That's So Raven.

[Kalyx triaD]

One of the few times I actually lol'd while typing it.

[Lock Jaw]

Don't really care about Raven at all.

[parkmania]

DC has announced that it will launch an ongoing Red Lantern comic series, to be written by Peter Milligan, in 2011. Red Lantern will build on concepts introduced in the core Green Lantern series by DC CCO Geoff Johns, who asked Milligan to write the book.



According to Milligan, the new series will focus first on the far side of the prison planet Ysmault, where the story will explore why and how the rage of Atrocitus remains all-consuming.

[Lock Jaw]

Really don't see any potential in an ongoing Red Lantern series.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah.

[Fignuts]

Ugh. Mini-series would be fine. Hate this because the Green Lantern series is starteing to get really overexposed. And I do not want to get sick of Green Lantern, like I got sick of Venom.

[Lock Jaw]

I think Batman has something ridiculous like six or seven books now. Not including stuff like Batgirl, Batwoman, Red Robin, Gotham City Sirens, and the dozens of Batman miniseries that they always seem to have going.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't mind every member of the Bat-family having a book. What I hate is one character having a few books. This is worse in Marvel than DC, though.

I remember a panel where Daredevil was asked to join the New Avengers, and I don't know if the writer wanted to share a point, but DD said he had enough going on in his life, "And I don't know how Peter [Parker] does so much in one month."

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, Wolverine is on like half a dozen teams, and I think he has like two solo titles or something.

[Nowhere Man]

What exactly is there to tell about the Red Lanterns? They're angry, raaaar. At least with the Sinestro Corps, you have a relatively deep and interesting character in Sinestro himelf to balance out all the scary monster people. Atrocitus just is a generic scary monster person, basically a big dragon to be slain. Where's the story in that?

[parkmania]

Not saying the series is gonna be good or bad, but there appears to be something going on with Atroticus's back story in GL #61 that recently came out.

[Kalyx triaD]

Wonder Woman TV series "postponed". It seems all the pitched-to networks passed on it, including surprisingly the CW (citing high cost). Interestingly enough, ABC was also courted, but with Disney sleeping with Marvel now, that was also a no go.

Diana has trouble breaking out.

[Boondock Saint]

Sounds like it was probably a really shit script then.

[parkmania]

A number of prominent young actresses including Keira Knightley, Jessica Biel, and Anne Hathaway are vying for two key female roles in Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight Rises. Reports indicate that one of the roles is that of Talia, the estranged daughter of Ra’s Al Ghul. In the comics Talia is a complex character who is neither a heroine nor a villain. She is Batman’s lover and the mother Damian Wayne, the fifth Robin.


According to The Hollywood Reporter’s Heat Vision, other actresses on the short list for The Dark Knight Rises include Gemma Arterton (Prince of Persia), Charlotte Riley (Wuthering Heights), Kate Mara, and possibly Naomi Watts.


The Dark Knight Rises, which is being written by Nolan, David Goyer, and Nolan’s brother Jonathan, is slated to begin shooting in May.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache-01.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/smallvilleposter.jpg

[Reavant]

:drool:

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, freaking out here.

[Kalyx triaD]

The villains of Christopher Nolan's third Batman movie will be Selina Kyle, aka Catwoman, and... Bane, a 1990s 'roid freak who shattered Bruce Wayne's spine in the Knightfall crossover. Anne Hathaway will play Selina, while Tom Hardy will play Bane.

The press release quotes Nolan as saying about Hathaway, "I am thrilled to have the opportunity to work with Anne Hathaway, who will be a fantastic addition to our ensemble as we complete our story." And about Hardy, he says: "I am delighted to be working with Tom again and excited to watch him bring to life our new interpretation of one of Batman's most formidable enemies."

And there we have it.

[Fignuts]

Wow, expected Catwoman, but Bane is a surprise.

[McLegend]

Cool.

[The Destroyer]

Bane? Now that I did not see coming.

I hope Tom Hardy is juicing up on Venom as we speak.

[The Destroyer]

Seemingly nowhere in the press release does it identify Anne Hathaway as Catwoman though, merely Selina Kyle.

Could mean nothing, but still.

[Kalyx triaD]

Smallville Will Have Some Gold and Blue:

Upcoming guest characters Booster Gold and Blue Beetle haven't been cast yet, but the producers want someone blond and smarmy for Booster, while Blue Beetle will be played by a Latino actor who can pull off nerdy teenager.

Great seeing Booster get some exposure soon, interesting going with the modern Blue Beetle.

[Fignuts]

lol now they're bringing Blue Beetle and Booster Gold in?

This show should have been changed from "Smallville" to straight up "Superman", years ago.

[Lock Jaw]

Heard they were trying to make a Blue Beetle live action show. Perhaps introducing him here first to make it a spin-off.

[dronepool]

lol now they're bringing Blue Beetle and Booster Gold in?

This show should have been changed from "Smallville" to straight up "Superman", years ago.

That would have increased fans, I use to think the show was a corny attempt at using early Clark Kent adventures as an exoskeleton for the typical romance drama format, but I'm glad I was wrong when I checked out that episodes where all those characters appear from season 8 I think.

More DC characters = great.

[Kalyx triaD]

And NBC picks up Wonder Woman after all. Details on the treatment revealed that the lasso, bracelets, and invisible jet are in.

[Kalyx triaD]

More on Wonder Woman TV:

The project is described as a reinvention of the iconic D.C. comic in which Wonder Woman — aka Diana Prince — is a vigilante crime fighter in L.A. but also a successful corporate executive and a modern woman trying to balance all of the elements of her extraordinary life. "I had a lot of fun writing it," Kelley said of the script at TCA last week when the project had just been put on hold. "It's a huge project, and it was probably a bit too much to ask anyone to try to chew on it for next season. But I'm confident it will still happen. It's a very complicated piece, which is the most fun thing about it."

Gotta love how trying to make her capable ends up being sexist anyway. io9.com speculates that their emphasis on her being 'modern' may mean the current 'streetwise' WW is the one being adapted, rather than the swimsuit cleavage amazon princess we know and love. I'm good either way, I'm actually interested in this take. Wonder Woman is a character not easy to do without pissing somebody off. Give her the swimsuit she'll offend feminazis (even if she's the most important chick in the DCU); and update her to more a utilitarian vibe and the fans will bitch.

Me? I say go with the classic look. Bending for crybabies who never enjoyed the source material is something I can't stand (reference the Resident Evil 5 debacle). But let's see how this goes.

[Nowhere Man]

If they do update WW's look, I'd say have it go with the classic swimsuit top, bracelets, boots, etc, but maybe give her some pants like her new outfit. I personally like the one-piece myself, but if they're really concerned about it being 'sexist,' then that seems like the way to go.

Also, is anyone else incredibly turned off about the idea of her being a superhero and a super-successful tycoon? I mean, Superman's a ridiculously powerful superhero, but in his out-of-costume life he's just some shmuck working at a newspaper. Batman is a billionaire businessman, but because he's not a superhuman there's always a chance he could get killed by some lucky punk with a gun. You've got to have balance between the extraordinary and the ordinary. If Wonder Woman is super-incredible in and out of costume, then it's not all that interesting.

[Kalyx triaD]

That would depend on the nature of her business role. Her Amazonian background (assuming they're rolling with that), may offer some political challenges. But there's not enough information to know.

[mitchables]

yeah i am not sure i like this whole 'single modern female strugglin' to make it after all' approach.

[McLegend]

Henry Cavil is the new Superman.

[Nowhere Man]

The Tudors guy? Really?

[Lock Jaw]

Don't know him, will reserve judgment until such time as I see him in a costume. At which time I will nitpick and complain about the tiniest, most irrelevant details.

[McLegend]

Hey that was going to be my plan.

[Lock Jaw]

Somehow I don't think this was posted here yet. I only just seen it for myself the first time today, but it has apparently been out awhile.

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[Kalyx triaD]

It had to have been posted here.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just watched my first full eps of Young Justice. Score another one for DC animation. Great stuff.

[Kalyx triaD]

Unofficial Superman Animation by Disney Artists:

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Gotta admit, I'm feeling Disney style Superman.

[Nowhere Man]

I really dig that; reminds me of the old Fleischer cartoons, which is what they were going for. I'd love to see more of this.

[dronepool]

http://i56.tinypic.com/2qx6wbs.jpg

Two weeks early :)


Amazing movie.

[Damian Rey]

The Disney style was really well done. Felt like it suited Supes a lot.

[Rammsteinmad]

So if they're going through with it and making another Superman film, is there any chance of Lex Luthor NOT being the main bad guy in this one?

Still hoping to one day get a Superman film with Doomsday in it.

[Nowhere Man]

Doomsday sucks. He's the Hulk without any of the bits that make the Hulk an actual character instead of just a walking plot-device.

[Kalyx triaD]

He can fuck shit up, though. Dialogue be damned.

[dronepool]

Brainiac or Parasite would be cool villains.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/0/10921_400x600.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/28uijbs.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Let's go with Braniac.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, Parasite is a kinda minor villain. Braniac would be good.

I don't want Lex Luthor as the main baddie either, but I hope that they don't leave him out of the movie entirely. Luthor is a big part of the Superman world. Superman: Earth One just didn't feel right with no Luthor around.

[Nowhere Man]

Luthor should be the puppet-master behind three or four major villains throughout the series (Parasite and Metallo would both be good choices; Bizarro would work too), but they should save him from being the primary villain until right around the very end. Give everyone else a chance to be awesome before going back to Lex.

Brainiac would be excellent to see, especially if it's the most recent rendition by Geoff Johns.

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched All-Star Superman (via the magic of the interwebs). I liked the animation style... and that was about it. The voice actors they got were pretty much terrible. They took what was a fun story, and sucked all the life out of it. Never ever before have I ever been turned off so much by the voices in an animated movie/anything.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a case of me not liking the story. I loved the comic book. Just the voice actors and some of the music (or lack thereof) completely destroyed the tone of the comic book in the translation.

[Kalyx triaD]

Check out the casting call for Wonder Woman (who's getting a TV show):

[WONDER WOMAN / DIANA THEMYSCIRA / DIANA PRINCE] Female, late 20s to 30s. A kick-ass Superhero / Powerful C.E.O. / A vulnerable woman. Long flowing black hair, blue eyes. Amazon-like, muscular, an Olympian. The charismatic stage presence of a rock star. A crime fighter. Also, a real woman who yearns to live a normal life. She is accessible and appealing to all people, men and women alike…SERIES LEAD. ASP.

Yeah, good luck finding a woman who comes close those contradictions. I still love how they're juxtaposing the Amazonian Princess/Successful CEO with 'oh she's just trying to make it in life'. Good luck to them, though, it's good to start with high standards.

[Blitz]

Adrianne Palicki cast as Wonder Woman.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/02/16/wonder-woman-revealed/

[Kalyx triaD]

That was quick.

[Lock Jaw]

"Hey guys, can I be Wonder Woman?"-"Yeah. Sure. OUR LONG SEARCH IS OVER!"

[JimmyMess]

So Henry Cavill eh? I just heard about that.... Don't know him so don't have a comment...

Whats with the Kevin Costner rumor about Superman? The President? Pa Kent? Perry White?

[Kalyx triaD]

Link?

[JimmyMess]

Here (http://movies.ign.com/articles/115/1151158p1.html)

[Kalyx triaD]

This is the year of off the wall casting.

[JimmyMess]

President Dances With Wolves who won by a Swing Vote

[Kalyx triaD]

In a month this thread will be four years old (and the Marvel thread will be four years old come Spring).

After two serious considerations merging the threads, it seems these two universes just can't get along. To all those movies based on funny books, huzzah!

[Kalyx triaD]

Turned in a ten page analysis on The Dark Knight today. Couldn't get the fucking MS Word program to number the pages but the professor let me slide.

[Fignuts]

Post it here.

[Kalyx triaD]

Note: Unfinished, non-formatted version - was completed in college. This is still pretty much 95% of the gist of it. Ignore reminder notes, it's how I roll.

Running Head (Reminder): Under Cover of Knight

Title Page: Under Cover of Knight:
Analysis of Nolan-Batman 2
Jean Calixte
ENC2102-N2
Prof. Masterson
February 24, 2011

Title Insert: Under Cover of Knight:
Analysis of Nolan-Batman 2

Intro: Transcending the comic book movie.

Since the resurgence of film's based on comic book properties in the late 90's, certain expectations were established. The 'origin story' is essentially a sub-genre in itself, and we watch a relatively normal man or woman become a costumed superhero. The 'sequel story' raises the stakes for our hero, who at this point usually questions their role, and presents the requisite greater challenge. This progression certainly appears formulaic, yet it has become standard practice for the comic book movie. Still, in this progression we witnessed the X-Men sequel X2: X-Men United and Spider-Man sequel Spider-Man 2 push what was expected of their class to successful heights. The sequel to 2005's Batman Begins would follow suit with a strong entry to its series, but under no formulaic, standard fare. What we came to know as The Dark Knight (henceforth known as TDK), released in July of 2008, not only elevated past superhero film expectations, it transcended the general medium. It would actually appear to mitigate TDK's strength as a film if you were to mention its comic book roots. How this came to be is no small feat, and one that warrants at least one more analysis.

Para 1: What is The Dark Knight.

The Dark Knight is the sequel to Batman Begins, a 2005 reboot of the Batman franchise directed by Christopher Nolan. After a critical and commercial failure in Batman & Robin from nearly a decade prior, a number of changes ushered in the modern incarnation of our live-action superhero. Gone was the stylish goth of Tim Burton's '89 Batman, and certainly expelled were the hyper expressive antics of Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin. Instead we were reintroduced to a darker, realistic tale of a young man driven to be a costumed crime fighter. After the toppling the challenges of his origin tale, the Batman is given an ominous warning from an ally, of caution against "escalation" and a mysterious criminal with his own "taste of theatrics" (Thomas, Franco, Roven, Melniker, Uslan, 2005). These warnings would come to pass in TDK, where the escalation of the bleakest sort prevails, and a villain of theatrical sensibility emerges. Batman, now settled into a mythical status within the fictional Gotham City, must face intensely complicated challenges. He finds no quarter in his life as either Bruce Wayne, the billionaire playboy, or the Batman, masked avenger. With his personal value system put to the test by a madmen, Bruce learns that being Batman is no longer something he wants to do - but a necessity. He learns that his actions have consequences, and if a shining knight is to bear them in the name of good, he must accept that he will not be regarded as a white knight...

Para 2: Who are The Dark Knight.

A film of this scope was aided by a particular strong cast, under the supervision of an unlikely director. Returning as Bruce Wayne/Batman is Christian Bale, who viewed this film as a lonier[sic] outing for his character (Dargis, 2008). Not adding as much muscle for the role due to an updated suit that offered the actor unprecedented physical range (compared to the previous actors who could barely turn their head in costume), Bale now expressed Batman's external difficulties, no longer insulating the death of his parents (Gilchrist, 2008). Always at his side is Bruce's trusty butler Alfred, again portrayed by Michael Caine. Elevated from the usual role in past movies, you are left to wonder if Bruce could ever succeed without Alfred, such is the strength of the character. Lucious Fox, played by the returning Morgan Freeman, once again acts as Batman's chief utility supplier. It would seem he has deduced Batman's identity by now, though that may have been true as early as the second time Bruce requested items in Batman Begins! Lucious plays a bigger here, and Freeman more than delivers the plight of a friend who can only do so much. Also returning is the Gary Oldman as Jim Gordon, not yet the iconic Commissioner rank of his comic self[citation?]. Historically seen as an ally to Batman despite the lawlessness involved, Gordon learns that his warning of escalation would not spare him by movie's finale.

Joining the already impressive cast are two standouts and a surprisingly welcomed replacement. Maggie Gyllenhaal replaces Batman Begins' Katie Holmes as Assistant District Attorney Rachel Dawes. Being somewhat a deciding factor for Batman's very existence, Maggie portrays Dawes with noted "energy" and "depth" (Gilchrist, 2008). Carrying the weight of a pivotal role on his shoulders, Aaron Eckhart is District Attorney Harvey Dent. Though Batman's story was revealed in the previous movie, and the Joker appears as if a random storm, Eckhart's Dent conveys the true evolution and origin of a final act villain from the comics. And finally, though unforgettably, the late Heath Ledger's turn as the much discussed villain the Joker. Heath Ledger died in January of 2008 while TDK was still being edited. His death cast a dark shadow over an already unexpectedly dark film, but few were prepared for his portrayal - a key performance to be examined later. Rounding out the cast with a smaller but key role is Eric Roberts as the crime boss Sal Maroni. Begins villain Jonathan Crane, the Scarecrow, returns in a brief cameo, again portrayed by Cillian Murphy. Of course, this cast is directed by Nolan, who returns to tell a darker tale written by his brother (Jonathan Nolan) and himself. Not even using a second unit, Nolan surely watched over every shot of the film (Dargis, 2008).

Para 3: How is The Dark Knight.

The Dark Knight abandons the cramp, amber alleys of Batman Begins' Gotham City for a cleaner, orderly presentation of the city. Like colors of a painting, this only increases the contrast between order and the coming chaos. True to the theme of escalation, what begins as Batman's successful crack down on Gotham's mobs leaves an opportunity for a mysterious villain to coax the desperate mob heads to hire him. The Joker, however, had bigger plans than simply killing Batman for mobsters. We see this plan unfold with waking senses, similar to the terrible awe reserved for broadcast calamity. Surely wonder (and hope) that things can't possibly get any worse for Bruce and his friends. But they do, we feel it because we're familiar with the stakes. Bruce sees both Rachel and Harvey as happy endings, reasons to retire the cape and cowl. The Joker manages to ruin both reasons, however, and effortlessly considering he hasn't a clue who Batman really is (Ebert, 2008). So we watch things get worse, and how the order of Gotham and the protagonists of the story unravel in response to a madman's whim. Putting yourself in these character's shoes would simply not do; this isn't as easy yelling a screen telling a scream-queen the monster is right behind her, and subsequently thinking, "Well I would have looked over my shoulder."

What would you do if your salvation both in and out of costume was threatened by a self proclaimed "agent of chaos" who's more interested in killing your loved ones than actually killing you? How could you at once be a shining beacon of the city, a public official even, but know to catch this same man you may have to suspend the principals that made you who you are? How about being an officer of the law, whose relationship with an outlaw makes you a target of assassination? These questions don't even begin to explore some of the more powerful choices of the film, almost all uniformly revealing the darker recesses of our nature.Wall Street Journal's Morgenstern notes in his review, "Every motive is mixed. Every effort to banish criminals has unintended consequences" (2008). This film has little in the way of right answers, perfect decisions, or correct counter-strategies. The heroes, and by extension the viewers, are eternally locked between two evils. We must choose the lesser of the two, and no outcome feels remotely like a victory. This escalation, this overwhelming sense of dread, is what TDK brings to the table of film. Do you even remember that this is all based on a $2.99 per issue comic book series? And as the title secretly promised, we all would know what it means to be a 'Dark Knight' by film's end (Gilchrist, 2008).

Para 4: Batman and Harvey Two-Face.

Providing an interesting dichotomy within the ranks of the heroes is Batman and Harvey Dent. Batman moves around the law to face the criminal element, while Dent works within the law as a proactive public defender - arguably doing just as good a job. But as Bruce comes closer to the light provided by Dent's service to Gotham, Dent is ever more exposed to the grim realities of city no longer exclusively threatened by mobsters. It is now men with "tastes for theatrics" that run loose now, and he isn't prepared for what he'll be forced to endure. Add to that the love triangle between himself, Bruce, and Rachel. He's mostly unaware, though it is also Bruce who is unaware of Rachel's honest devotion to Dent. It is in fact a powerful decision by Alfred that spares Bruce the crushing realization, which itself is another example of a hard choice. Batman and Harvey Dent are the knights of the story, and their fortitude is tested by the circumstances. But like Batman, it would seem all Dent needed was "One bad day" (Moore, 1988). By the end of the film you will witness one man's descent into despair, and after a significant loss, emotional, psychological breakdown.

Batman and who would be Harvey Two-Face, are really two sides of one coin in the end. Avengers both, but only one will bear the fruits of the others actions. Harvey Dent will always be the white knight, and Batman the dark knight. Why this is so is a testament to this film's mastery.

Para 5: The Joker.

By the time we see Joker is all his gangly twisted visage, he had already amassed a kill count of half a dozen. This would triple by movie's end. The Joker is without remorse, and seemingly without reason. He acts, just as a volcano or hurricane acts. And like those events we suffer, random catastrophe at the behest of a killer clown. What is truly scary about Heath Ledger's final performance is that we never really know why Joker is what he is. He recounts with his own origins with all the credibility of a mental patient diagnosing himself; twice in the movie, both completely different stories. Or perhaps both are true? Or more likely he's just entertaining you before he finally kills you. Heath Ledger finds a way to convey this insanity with a hidden layer of brilliance. After all a man who antagonizes the mob, the police, and the Batman all at once may not be as insane as we'd like him to be. By the final moments of the film, you may even discover his ultimate 'point' in motion. His very mannerisms are unnerving, you can't decide if his obsessive lip licking and limped steps are a part of his act or some compulsive disorder (Dargis, 2008). You'd even swear he was a drug addict if not for the pressing thought that somebody like him may actually be too wise to impair himself using drugs.

It is the Joker who masterminds most of the unrest for our heroes and even some other villains. The source of his philosophies and destructive tendencies may elude us for some time, especially as the actor who understood him best has passed away, but a character so deranged as Joker and so masterfully played by Ledger deserves to remain a sealed tomb of work. Heath Ledger's Joker is a moment in time.

Para 6: Morality of the Dark Knight.

This leads to one of TDK's more provocative themes: morality in an amoral conflict. This touches on the earlier comments regarding hard choices. It would seem following the law would have not fared well against Joker's gambits, and yet the Batman didn't come any closer to defeating the Joker. Harvey Dent flirted with murder just for the Joker's whereabouts, and Batman severely assaulted the crime boss Maroni for the same information. Even Officer Gordon was forced to act in a way his family would have to suffer from just to match Joker move for deceptive move. Lucious Fox isn't spared, as he is witness and accessory to Batman using more of Bruce's assets to get the job done in a way we Americans can relate to in a post-9/11, heightened security world. Given all the choices the characters had to bear, trying to force order against unhinged chaos, would your own choices be any different? What could you have done in any of heroes places that could have garnered victory, save for outright killing the Joker during his 2nd act capture - and even that would have lead to tragic consequences! And as far as moral choices go, one need look no further than the two ships scene. Morgenstern notes:

The whole movie is a social experiment on a global scale, an ambitious, lavish attempt to see if audiences will turn out for a comic-book epic that goes beyond darkness into Stygian bleakness, grim paradox, endless betrayals and pervasive corruption (2008).[block quote, asshole don't forget]

Para 7: Impressions of the Dark Knight.

The combination of memorable characters, seamless story telling, mounting drama, and compelling insight makes The Dark Knight more than a Batman movie. It's at times a mirror, showing you things you rather not see if given a choice. And at the same time it is a messenger, warning you the threat of power to change things - to escalate them beyond your own expectations. And yes, you may still enjoy yourself, as the requisite action sprinkled throughout hit their marks with ease. Batman fans will not be disappointed when they see iconic enemies Batman and Joker face off. General movie goers will be mesmerized by Nolan's tale of a bright city overcome by dark people. This may be one of the smartest summer blockbusters since... Batman Begins. It changes the face of not only high end summer films, but comic book movies in general. Unless you want to make a tradition tale of origins and greater challenges, you can now believe that a superhero tale can be much more. The Dark Knight excels in every possible form, fantasy, crime drama, mystery, suspense, and action. It demands to be recognized by virtue of itself. Even if such a thing as Batman never existed, you will watch this costumed affair with respectful intent.

Conclusion: Seven points summarized, and transcending the comic book movie.

The Dark Knight pays off the promises of Batman Begins' final notes, and transcends what we have come to expect from the comic book sequel. What we have are incredibly filled out characters living a story where order descends into chaos. We're watching actors vanish and characters take their place. We witness two knights, both noble, but both tested to the limits of human compassion. We try to understand a socially formless man as he proves to the world that we're all just a little bit like him. The choices force us to reflect on ourselves and our own moralities. And finally, we're left with a film that will linger whether we read comics or not. Christopher Nolan and his amazing cast left a mark that refuses to be forgotten, and rightfully so. And although the part was disturbing, Heath Ledger left the world with a final act IGN's Gilchrist imagined would be analyzed in the months following the movie (2008). Well his contributions are remembered in this essay, three years removed from the curtains first rising. It may not be the last analysis for him of the fine film.

Ref. Page: References

Dargis, M. (2008, July) Showdown in Gotham Town. The New York Times. Retrieved on February 22, 2011 from http://movies.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/movies/18knig.html

Ebert, R. (2008, July) The Dark Knight. Chicago Sun-Times. Retried on February 22, 2011 from http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080716/reviews/55996637

Gilchrist, T. (2008, July) The Dark Knight Review. Movies Review at IGN. Retrived on February 22, 2011 from http://movies.ign.com/articles/884/884876p1.html

Moore, A. (March, 1988) Batman: The Killing Joke. DC Comics.

Morgenstern, J. (2008, July) Ledger Dazzles in Suffocatingly Dark 'Knight'. The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved on February 22, 2011 from http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121632327909562803.html

Thomas, E., Franco, L.J., Roven, C., Melniker B., Uslan, M. (2005, June) Batman Begins. DC Comics. Legendary Pictures. Syncopy Films. Patalex Productions.

[Kalyx triaD]

Frankly surprised it didn't breach character limit.

[mitchables]

good write-up and all but six references for a 10-page assignment? i'd have been failed on the spot.

[Kalyx triaD]

It wasn't a required ten pages, and it wasn't a research paper in the strictest sense. We all got to write about a movie for our pop culture analysis course. I rather not have sourced IGN but it was less about research and more about my take on it.

[DaveBrawl]

'Superman' Reboot Taps Diane Lane To Play Clark Kent's Mom
'We are thrilled to have Diane in the role,' director Zack Snyder says in a statement.

While rumors continue to swirl that "Superman" director Zack Snyder is eyeing Viggo Mortensen for a villainous role in the rebooted comic book franchise, Warner Bros. has officially announced the casting of a good guy — or, we should say, a good mom.

Diane Lane is officially onboard to play Martha Kent, the adoptive mother of Clark Kent, according to a studio press release.

"This was a very important piece of casting for me because Martha Kent is the woman whose values helped shape the man we know as Superman," Snyder said in a statement. "We are thrilled to have Diane in the role because she can convey the wisdom and the wonder of a woman whose son has powers beyond her imagination." The casting doesn't mark the first time the Oscar-winning actress has entered a high-profile comic book adaptation. In the mid-'90s, she appeared alongside Sylvester Stallone in "Judge Dredd." She's also co-starred in action- and thriller-oriented fare like "Jumper," "Murder at 1600" and the barely seen "Killshot."

Lane joins Henry Cavill, who's playing the Man of Steel, as confirmed "Superman" castmembers. Mortensen has been rumored for the role of General Zod, the nefarious alien at the heart of 1980's "Superman II." Kevin Costner has been mentioned as a possible choice for Jonathan Kent, the husband of Martha and the adoptive father of Clark.

Directed by Snyder, produced by "Dark Knight" guru Christopher Nolan and with a screenplay penned by David S. Goyer, the new "Superman" flick is slated for a December 2012 release date.

For breaking news and previews of the latest comic book movies — updated around the clock — visit SplashPage.MTV.com.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1659114/superman-diane-lane-synder-reboot.jhtml

[Jeritron]

Hmmm, Viggo Mortinsen. Probably General Zod.

[Kalyx triaD]

I would dig that.

[Jeritron]

To me, Zod is the obvious choice since Mortinsen can play insane and vile, while still being eerily calm and calculated

[Nowhere Man]

Viggo would make one hell of a Zod.

Hmmm....if the stuff about the first act of the movie being Clark spending time in Africa before coming home and creating the costume is true, it sounds an awful lot like the Birthright origin, where Luthor finds out that Superman is an alien and tries to discredit him by faking a Kryptonian invasion. Maybe in the movie, instead of faking one, he accidentally opens up the Phantom Zone and causes a real invasion by letting out Zod.

[parkmania]

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[parkmania]

Christopher Nolan’s Batman Begins is the template for Zack Snyder’s new Superman movie, which will likely be titled Man of Steel. Snyder is rebooting the franchise by going with the premise that there have been no other Superman movies. Snyder told the L.A. Times’ Hero Complex, “If you look at Batman Begins, there’s the (comic book) canon that we know and respect, but on the other hand there’s this approach that pre-supposes that there haven’t been any other movies.”

Snyder wants to take this reboot the franchise, Batman Begins approach to his new Superman movie, “In every aspect of design, and of story, the whole thing is very much from the perspective of respect the canon, but don’t be a slave to the movies.”

Snyder was coy about additional casting announcements, which are likely to come soon, since Man of Steel is slated to debut in December of 2012, saying only: “There’s more to come and I think it’s consistent in its awesomeness.” Several rumors have connected Kevin Costner to the production, but there has been no confirmation. So far the only casting announcements have been Henry Cavill as Superman (see “Henry Cavill is Superman”) and Diane Lane as Martha Kent (see “Diane Lane Will Be Supes’ Mom”).

[Lock Jaw]

Really hope the new Superman is good, but dunno about Zack Snyder. I know he has made stuff that is generally well "liked", but all of his stuff has left me underwhelmed.

[Gray]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12772355

Shame, good innings though i guess.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/03/adrianne_palicki_as_wonder_woman.jpg

They got two things right, but the material seems...

Probably a bad picture. I had thought(hoped?) that they'd use the 2010 'street' attire, but classic Di is in.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i.newsarama.com/images/wonder_woman_tv_02.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Late edit, but thanks anyway!

[Lock Jaw]

Well, now I just look like a jerk. Posting the same picture.

Anyways, costume is "ok". Seems like she is wearing way too much makeup though.

[mitchables]

yeah, it is not great.

also someone from inception is playing holiday in dkr. looks like they're going the long halloween route. brb will find a link.

[mitchables]

oh shit it's joseph gordon-levitt. "someone from inception". man, poor form.

http://insidepulse.com/2011/03/19/joseph-gordon-levitts-role-in-the-dark-knight-rises-is-revealed/

[Damian Rey]

If this ends up being true, it's going to be interesting to see if Nolan ties in the Holiday Killer gimmick, or just has Alberto playing the role of mob boss, much like Carmine and Maroni did in the previous two films.

[Lock Jaw]

Amy Adams to play Lois Lane in the new Superman movie.

[Blitz]

oh shit it's joseph gordon-levitt. "someone from inception". man, poor form.

http://insidepulse.com/2011/03/19/joseph-gordon-levitts-role-in-the-dark-knight-rises-is-revealed/
There's a lot of contrary rumours going around right now over who he's playing. Some say Alberto, some say not.

[McLegend]

I hope Amy Adams keeps the red hair for the role. She's a good choice.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Content/110328/News/1_mon/110328mag-Smallville1.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Wonder Woman Costume Updated:

http://betacache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/03/wonderwomanfront.jpg

Looks better than the reveal, and the red boots makes a difference for me. She seems awkward with the classic top, and I can't help but think the modern WW jacket would complete the look.

Side note: Anyone think a crossover with Smallville could help launch the show mid-season? It wouldn't hurt.

[Lock Jaw]

Different channels.

Also, yeah, this tweaked costume looks better. Toned down the blue, and red boots.

[McLegend]

So Warner plans to reboot Batman again after the Dark Knight Rises for the Justice league movie.

I don't see this Justice league movie happening in 2013. I think it strongly hinges on the Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

More (Grainy) Wonder Woman Pics:

http://betacache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/03/wonder12.jpg
http://betacache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/03/wonder8.jpg

As the costume grows on me, I must say she does look great. Nice shoulders, hair, eyes, and the rack of course. I read she's actually fairly tall, too. As hard as it is casting somebody this iconic, they did well for the brief search they did.

[Rammsteinmad]

That Wonder Woman costume is stupid.

[BigDaddyCool]

I like it.

[Lock Jaw]

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Have a feeling I will dislike this movie just because of the CGI

[Kalyx triaD]

I still think it was miscast hell, but heavy CGI was expected. The suit being CGI was a gamble I think they will lose, though.

[Lock Jaw]

Should have just made a 100% CGI movie.

[Gonzo]

http://shesocrazy.com/images/content/Adrianne%20Palicki%20Nude%201.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Not working.

[parkmania]

It looks like Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark isn’t the only comic-based production on which people get injured (see “Another Spider-Man Injury”). A special effects worker on the Green Lantern film has filed suit against DC Comics, Warner Bros., Big Moose, and South Bay EFX over injuries he says he received on the set during filming last summer, according to Hollywood Reporter. The suit, for negligence, “peculiar risk,” ultrahazardous activity and loss of consortium stems from an accident the plaintiff alleges caused “numerous internal and external injuries, severe fright, shock, pain, discomfort, and anxiety.”

Krispy, is that you?

[parkmania]

Dark Knight Rises, the third and final chapter of director Christopher Nolan’s Batman saga starring Christian Bale (see “’DKR’ Is the Last Chapter of Nolan’s Batman Saga”) will shoot in Pittsburgh this summer, according to Variety. The last DK movie shot in Chicago.

Nolan released the following statement:
“Pittsburgh is a beautiful city. We have been able to find everything we were looking for here, and I am excited to spend the summer in Pittsburgh with our final installment of Batman.”


Gotta find out the shooting schedule and see if I can get a walk-on role...

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Michael Shannon is General Zod in the officially titled "Man of Steel" Superman movie. Zod's cronies Ursa and Non are likely to accompany.

[Lock Jaw]

Still iffy about using Zod again, but Michael Shannon does come off as pretty "intimidating" in Boardwalk Empire.

[Kalyx triaD]

Zod is a cool villain.

[Nowhere Man]

Personally I would've preferred Brainiac, but Zod works. At least we'll get to see him in a proper super-powered fistfight.

[LuigiD]

ehh...Zod is cool but I guess I would have preferred to see someone else.

[Fox]

If he doesn't say "kneel before Zod" at some point in the movie where Superman actually has to kneel to him, I will be extremely disappointed.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah that's a must. Smallville had fun with that.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/04/triptico_1302633594213.jpg

[parkmania]

Finally figuring out part of what bugs me about the GL movie. Please compare Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRs1XlDnkmKCeO903q5b97U79vSQobKgk1nlxMytEaD4zH70zWE


With Ben Stiller as Furious in Mystery Men:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpuM6PuWaWp5VbsUS0xW7qeaWGN4WzQY_XhiMIkmTY5d4KQFhCug

:'(

[Kalyx triaD]

...What?

[parkmania]

Just saying... Ben Stiller to me is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

[Kalyx triaD]

He's cool.

[Lock Jaw]

I liked Mystery Men.

[Fox]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/04/triptico_1302633594213.jpg

Fucking hate this costume. I've seen a lot of pictures of it but this is the first full-length view and the thing that I think I hate the most is the toes. You can see his fucking toes. I'm sorry, but I can't take a superhero seriously this way - his legs look like The Swamp Man's. Superheroes should wear awesome boots.

And I hate his hair, too, but that's neither here nor there.

[DaveBrawl]

With the mask on he looks a lot like a skinny Will Ferrell.

[LuigiD]

Gotta agree with Fox on this one, the toes just kill it for me. I don't even know why..it just looks so fucking stupid. This is going to be awful.

[Lock Jaw]

Never noticed the toes before. WTF that is just terrible. Conjure yourself up some real boots, man.

[BigDaddyCool]

I also hate his toes. If he is wearing clothes, his toes should be covered.

[Fox]

You can see the outline of his belly-button in the first picture, too. That is just not superhero-ish or manly at all. Why can't we see the outline of his cock and balls while they're at it? I mean, at least keep continuity here. If you can see the exact outline of his toes, his belly-button, you should be able to see his dick and nuts.

This outfit just has faillure written all over it. How no one pointed out that this costume makes a good superhero look like a green homo erotic fairy and let it get all the way through production is beyond me.

[Fox]

I mean, is there something WRONG with this costume?

http://images.wikia.com/mk/images/8/83/Green_Lantern.jpg

Why not stick with what works and has worked for years and years?

[Kalyx triaD]

"Artist interpretation."

Sometimes it means something as cool as Batman's Dark Knight suit. And sometimes it Hal Jordan's skin suit.

[Jeritron]

Making the suit all CGI was a gimmick from the get-go. Saying it's for any other reason is quite stupid.
They could have him doing the same mocap and actions in a basic suit with enhancements.

So I think they made a suit of all CGI just to make a suit of all CGI as some kind of accomplishment. The only problem is it came out horrible, as many feared it would. Somewhere along the lines they should have realized it wasn't going to be any good.

They can try to sell it with still frames all day, but anything in motion I've seen has been flat out bad.

I hate to let bad effects ruin a good movie. The problem is, the movie looks as shit and shallow as the suit.
I hope I'm wrong, but it's not looking good for GL. Oh well.

[Kalyx triaD]

Bad casting (at least for Hal), bad suit, story doesn't seem to serve the character...

Well I think we don't have to worry about Ryan being tied up for a sequel, he'll be totally free for Deadpool. WB will fail at GL and reboot it a few months after. Good luck to them.

[Blitz]

Fucking hate this costume. I've seen a lot of pictures of it but this is the first full-length view and the thing that I think I hate the most is the toes. You can see his fucking toes. I'm sorry, but I can't take a superhero seriously this way - his legs look like The Swamp Man's. Superheroes should wear awesome boots.

And I hate his hair, too, but that's neither here nor there.

Gotta agree with Fox on this one, the toes just kill it for me. I don't even know why..it just looks so fucking stupid. This is going to be awful.

Never noticed the toes before. WTF that is just terrible. Conjure yourself up some real boots, man.

I also hate his toes. If he is wearing clothes, his toes should be covered.
If this isn't the height of nitpicking, I don't know what is. You guys are acting like a Saturday Night Live parody of fanboys.

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't care about toes or hair; I just think the CGI suit concept is a bad idea that will not pan out for them. It will get shat on come review time.

[BigDaddyCool]

If this isn't the height of nitpicking, I don't know what is. You guys are acting like a Saturday Night Live parody of fanboys.

I never own a single piece of Green Lantern merch, read any of his comics, or know a thing about him. I do know see his toes like that looks stupid and would make me nag about it the whole movie. Just like when batman had nipples. It is stupid and takes you out of the moment. Thus ruining the movie experience. If something that ruins a scene is nit picking, then I guess I'm a nit picking fan boy.

Also no one watches SNL anymore.

[Blitz]

If you just think it looks stupid, fine. But if something that will actually not be visible for probably 4/5 of the movie bothers you so that it "ruins" the whole film, you've got problems.

[Jeritron]

I was just thinking about Spawn. Looking back on it, the CGI is obviously dated and looks shit, but the movie still does exactly what I think GL should have done.
Now you would be doing it with equal or greater practical effects, and far superior CGI and digital tools.
And a bigger budget.

It uses a practical suit, and effects to enhance it. The tangible suit looks amazing, and on top of that all kinds of special effects can be used to make the suit "living." It can transform, grow, show energy and all signs of being exactly what the GL suit is.

I get that the suit is the power of the ring/pure energy, but it's still a suit. It was always depicted as such, and that's how it manifests itself on him. So to act like it's above being a suit is stupid.
Especially when it comes to the mask. It's a Zorro mask. There is no reason to do that digitally other than to prove a point in going 100% CGI. As I said, that may be some goal, or maybe it's just a financial/laziness thing.

Mixing practical and digital effects allows them to get exactly what they're still going for, but just looks boatloads better and lends a great deal to the movie.

The same can be said for some other stuff I've seen. When GL uses his imagination to create some rocket-ship, or a giant fist and rock his opponents, that is where you use CGI. It's 100% called for an allows that aspect of the story to be possible. But when he imagines a gatling gun and laying down fire with that, why is that CGI? Wouldn't CGI be used for him materializing it, into a "real" gun (prop)?
It's that type of stuff that kills the worth of CGI as a filmmaking tool.

Anyways, that's just one example I thought of, and I'm sure there are better, or others.

What I'm saying is, the very concept of SFX use here has bothered me from the start and everything I've seen has furthered that.
I'm not hung up on the toes or the color scheme or anything like that. Just the big picture.

As I said, I still welcome a great movie but I have the doubts on that end even more so, and this is the type of film where painfully bad effects wall to wall may only turn up the volume on the bad story and turn it into a 2 hour headache.

[BigDaddyCool]

If you just think it looks stupid, fine. But if something that will actually not be visible for probably 4/5 of the movie bothers you so that it "ruins" the whole film, you've got problems.
Now that I know it is there it will. Also it isn't like I am the only one complaining about this. And I have seen many more people who don't like green lanterns toes on other sites. It just looks silly. Is Green Lantern suppose to be silly?

[Blitz]

Are you telling me you're seriously going to be sitting there, and no matter the quality of the story, or the acting, or the direction, or the FX, or whatever, even if all that ends up being top notch, you'll be sitting there thinking "If only I couldn't see his toes".

[XL]

Probably.

That's what people do. "Batman's suit has nipples", "Batman's voice is wierd", etc. It's all stuff that a few people notice and then people jump on it and it grows and becomes a stain on the movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

Jokes on them.

[Fox]

If this isn't the height of nitpicking, I don't know what is. You guys are acting like a Saturday Night Live parody of fanboys.

I never said that I wouldn't like the movie just because you can see the outline of his toes. I've overlooked far more stupid decisions in movies in order to enjoy them or give them a chance. What I'm saying is that the whole concept of having his feet and legs look he's wearing chronic-green spandex leggings is stupid and not "super-hero-ish" at all. Name one other superhero who runs around in their bare feet. It feels like a decision that was made by the designers of the GL costume that was extremely poorly thought out and one that was made really without taking the hardcore fans into consideration (of which I am not one, btw). Captain America looks like Captain America, Batman looks like Batman (and more badass than ever, tbh), Iron Man looks like Iron Man... this Green Lantern doesn't really look like any GL that's been around before, and NOT in a bad ass, awesome and new kind of way. In a bad way.

The toes were a stupid decision and no, it won't effect me in trying to enjoy the story or the acting or the movie as a whole, but I am aware of it and I do think it sucks.

[LuigiD]

The problem with nitpicking is that I have been saying that about Green Lantern pretty much the whole movie. First it was the bad casting, then the CGI suit, the toes, etc. At this point, it is just a culmination of a bunch of shit. Every time some new detail gets revealed I am just like "meh.."..I will still go see the movie because I am a loser but I am just not getting my hopes up.

[BigDaddyCool]

Are you telling me you're seriously going to be sitting there, and no matter the quality of the story, or the acting, or the direction, or the FX, or whatever, even if all that ends up being top notch, you'll be sitting there thinking "If only I couldn't see his toes".

You know, if everything else, or at least most everything else is good, yeah I probably will be able to look past his toes. But it is one of those things that will bother me. And yes, maybe this is a personal problem, but it just looks so stupid. Do you like seeing his toes?

[BigDaddyCool]

I never said that I wouldn't like the movie just because you can see the outline of his toes. I've overlooked far more stupid decisions in movies in order to enjoy them or give them a chance. What I'm saying is that the whole concept of having his feet and legs look he's wearing chronic-green spandex leggings is stupid and not "super-hero-ish" at all. Name one other superhero who runs around in their bare feet. It feels like a decision that was made by the designers of the GL costume that was extremely poorly thought out and one that was made really without taking the hardcore fans into consideration (of which I am not one, btw). Captain America looks like Captain America, Batman looks like Batman (and more badass than ever, tbh), Iron Man looks like Iron Man... this Green Lantern doesn't really look like any GL that's been around before, and NOT in a bad ass, awesome and new kind of way. In a bad way.

The toes were a stupid decision and no, it won't effect me in trying to enjoy the story or the acting or the movie as a whole, but I am aware of it and I do think it sucks.

Beast and occasionally Killer Crock...but you are suppose to see their toes.

And I was thinking...spider-man in the black/venom costume would have made some what of sense if I could see his toes. Not that I want to see his toes, just thinking it wouldn't have bothered me. And I do thinking about it, how does he climb walls with his feet if there is a pad of rubber or leather or whatever between him and the wall? So with Spider-Man it would make sense if he was wearing something that you could see his toes through, not aesthetically pleasing, but logical.

[Fox]

Yeah, I always wondered that about Spider-Man as well. How are those tiny, microscopic little hooks that we saw come out of his fingertips in the first movie supposed to penetrate his shoes? Maybe he's wearing very lightly padded socks or something. Suspension of disbelief I guess.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yeah, I always wondered that about Spider-Man as well. How are those tiny, microscopic little hooks that we saw come out of his fingertips in the first movie supposed to penetrate his shoes? Maybe he's wearing very lightly padded socks or something. Suspension of disbelief I guess.
His gloves should also be thin but that is a different discussion.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just in time for her new show, Diana returns to her classic look after the year long story arc in street gear.

http://i.newsarama.com/images/ww_cv612_var_02.jpg

[Nowhere Man]

Well, that didn't last long. I figured mean-streets Wonder Woman would only last about as long as electric-blue Superman did. Still, I did like some of the costume changes they did, particularly with the gauntlets and belt.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah I hoped it wold last longer.

I wouldn't mind Superman and Wonder Woman having some sort of permanent update. Batman got an update (in two flavors with Bruce's suit and Dick's suit). Green Arrow got a cool suit now (inspired by Smallville version? Which came first?).

Clark and Diana look dated next to Bruce now. :(

[Lock Jaw]

I didn't notice Green Arrow getting a new suit, and I just caught up in reading it

Also, Supes and Wonder Woman classic costumes are just fine. Had no problem with Wonder Woman's new costume though, but it was clearly just for "the story" until they change back.

[Kalyx triaD]

Green Arrow's had some adjustments and he looks a lot like Oliver in Smallville now.

[Nowhere Man]

I didn't mind most of the changes in Wonder Woman's costume, with the exception of the stupid leather jacket. It made her less like an A-list superhero and more like a reject from the Birds of Prey.

Personally, I'd much rather keep Superman's costume the way it is. Sure it's old-fashioned compared to everyone else's, but Superman's always considered to be the quintessential old-fashioned superhero anyway. Plus, I have yet to see a revised Supes costume that doesn't just look gimmicky.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm not talking something radical, just little streamline changes to perhaps translate the Kryptonian tech concept.

[Nowhere Man]

Well, Superman doesn't exactly need tech in his costume. It makes sense for folks like Batman or Green Arrow to update their equipment from time to time, since their abilities are tech-based. Superman's powers are innate, so having a high-tech-looking suit doesn't really do anything for him.

If you have to change the look of the costume at all, I'd go with Superboy's outfit from Titans tomorrow, where they got rid of the trunks and put the red in his belt instead:

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/2/21/Superman_-_Titans_Tomorrow.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Not tech in a gear sense... More of an aesthetic thing, I guess. It's an alien suit, it should be more than a primary colored nazi.

Maybe just change the 'S', remove the trunks (would also make him uniformed with Bruce), increase the shield size to extend to his shoulders, and absolutely no black. If anything add yellow.

Also, a katana.

[Lock Jaw]

Green Arrow's had some adjustments and he looks a lot like Oliver in Smallville now.

Oh, I see what you mean:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/comicsga.jpg

Though looking in the actual book, the costume doesn't look anything like that and he still uses his "normal"/"old" one. Woulda been cool if they used that one inside as well.

EDIT: Looks like even that cover eventually got changed, now that I look closer:

http://i.newsarama.com/images/ga-cv31-ds-copy_02.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

That's a cool bow.

[parkmania]

Bryan Cranston, Ben McKenzie, Eliza Dushku and Katee Sackhoff have been tapped to star as the voices in Batman: Year One, the adaptation of the Frank Miller comic book classic from Warner Premiere, DC Entertainment and Warner Bros. Animation.

Lauren Montgomery and Sam Liu are directing the movie, the 12th entry in the successful series of DC universe animated originals. Tab Murphy wrote the script.

The feature adapts the landmark four-issue story written by Miller and drawn by David Mazzucchelli that first appeared in 1987 on the heels of Miller's seminal work, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. Those tomes, along with The Watchmen, helped elevate the comics medium, changing the public's perception of the art form and influencing Hollywood writers and artists to this day.

In Year One, a young Bruce Wayne is first starting out as a costumed vigilante. He creates an early bond with Lieutenant James Gordon, whose importance in the tale makes it as much as Gordon's story as Wayne's.

Cranston is playing Gordon, while McKenzie is Wayne/Batman. Dushku voices Catwoman, while Sackhoff is Detective Sarah Essen, a Gordon love interest.

Additionally, Alex Rocco lends his pipes as crime lord Carmine Falcone.

As one of the holy grails in comic books, Year One will be closely scrutinized for faithfulness, but superhero animation veteran Bruce Timm, who is exec producing, says there is very little in the movie that isn't in the comic.

"The source material is surprisingly cinematic; it's a pretty straight forward literal retelling," he says. "Mazzucchelli's artwork is beautifully composed and we were able to refer to the comic for about 80 percent of the camera setups."

Cranston, an Emmy winner for AMC's Breaking Bad, says he initially turned down the chance to work on Year One, not even wanting to read the script. He blames it on his ignorance of the animation medium as well as the classic comics.

"I wasn't aware of this level of storytelling in animation. I confess that freely," he says. "They didn't give the characters the short shrift. I was stunned."

Batman: Year One, which will be rated PG-13, is scheduled to be released on home video in the fall but will world premiere in July at Comic-Con.

[Kalyx triaD]

Very sexy.

[Lock Jaw]

Speaking of costume changes/updates... Was catching up on JSA comics...

http://i.newsarama.com/images/jsa_49cvr_02.jpg

WHAT THE FUCK?!

Green Lantern had one of my favorite costumes ever.... now they change it into THIS? Seriously, what the hell is that? I can only hope that it doesn't last too long.

[mitchables]

reminds me of a really misguided attempt at adapting the kingdom come costume.

[Kalyx triaD]

Tell me that's not Alan Scott...

[Lock Jaw]

Yup Alan Scott.

He's used the Kingdom Come getup multiple times, this is nothing even close to it.

Storyline spoilers:

So in a JLA/JSA crossover, Alan Scott got taken over by the Starheart, the source of his powers. By the end of the story it was taking all of his willpower to keep it in check inside of him, but he was more powerful than ever.

New story, he fights a new villain, who BREAKS HIS NECK in two seconds. So much for the more powerful Alan Scott. He is now a quadriplegic, and the new getup is explained as some sort of exo-suit to help him get around.... and for some reason he is back to being more powerful than ever.

It is hinted though that his ordeal and now the exo-suit might have set off the balance and the Starheart might be influencing him/taking him over again. So hopefully this is leading to some story where the Starheart gets loose again, and bla bla bla, good guys win and Alan Scott is somehow back to normal after.

[mitchables]

well it's a little close to it, all armoured and hugely-necked. i did say "really misguided".

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2011/04/wwbts.04_01.jpg

[BigDaddyCool]

i'ld motorboat that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Certainly.

[BigDaddyCool]

I read somewhere that has been the entire point of Wonder Woman since day one. Tying her up, then motorboating.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or just surprise her with it at random. It would be the last thing you'd ever do but what a way to go.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/wonder-woman-300x298.jpg

Asking for it.

[BigDaddyCool]

Or just surprise her with it at random. It would be the last thing you'd ever do but what a way to go.

http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/wonder-woman-300x298.jpg

Asking for it.

She, like every woman has the same weakness. Bind her wrists and put her in front of an oven.

[Kalyx triaD]

I bet Diana makes the best sandwiches.

[Lock Jaw]

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/oneshot/wwbind.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Sometimes I wonder how comics got to this point.

[Lock Jaw]

Hope this dude makes the show:

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/other/277_4_158.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Sometimes I wonder how comics got to this point.

I've recently been reading the Golden Age adventures of the Justice Society of America and came across this gem from All-Star Comics #30.

One of the JSA's enemies Inception'd their dreams and made them all believe various things.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/Picture1-17.png

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/AllStar030-38.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm

[The Destroyer]

Hope this dude makes the show:

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/other/277_4_158.jpg
He looks a lot better these days:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Changtzudcu01.jpg

[BigDaddyCool]

He looks like a rip off of Mojo.

[Lock Jaw]

Nah, dude. I wouldn't call that better. Where's his majestic mustache? You can't beat a good mustache'd giant egg.

[McLegend]

You can if you have a giant egg beater.

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/b0PsyjovxB8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Still really hating the look of the CG in this film. Also, why does a green energy flamethrower construct shoot real flames? Shouldn't it shoot green flames?

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't know.

It is a much better cut trailer than the last one. Got to see Amanda Waller, too.

[parkmania]

Was messing around on imdb last night an noticed that Robert Englund is voicing Hector Hammond in the new GL Animated series.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dream casting or... a nightmare?

[Fignuts]

I am adding "Sir, you are speaking to a recently discovered solar system!", to my daily lexicon.

[parkmania]

Dream casting or... a nightmare?

I see what you did there.

[Fox]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/b0PsyjovxB8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Still really hating the look of the CG in this film. Also, why does a green energy flamethrower construct shoot real flames? Shouldn't it shoot green flames?

I'm sorry to be so negative, but this looks like it's going to be ridiculously bad. Like "Batman & Robin" bad. Nothing I saw in that trailer makes me want to see this movie. Ryan Reynolds looks terribly awkward and not "superhero like" at all. The first shot where he's got the mask on made me laugh out loud - it's like the whole thing is a parody of itself. I hope I'm wrong and that it's going to be an awesome, epic movie, or atleast somewhat good, but I've got a feeling Green Lantern is going to be an absolute pair of clown shoes.

[Lock Jaw]

Action looks like it might actually be decent. Just the CG is offputting to me. Verdict is out on the story until I see it.

[DaveBrawl]

Wonder Woman is dead… at least as far a new TV series is concerned. EW.com reports that NBC is passing on picking up the pilot to series.

Perhaps no pilot this year got more attention than Wonder Woman, which obviously was a very well-known property. But the buzz had been bad from the start, with a lot of major criticism from those who read the script (myself included) on the portrayal of the character and very negative reaction to the costume photos released early on. Writer/producer David E. Kelley (Boston Legal, Ally McBeal) always seemed an odd fit for the character, and word is reaction to test screenings of the pilot were decidedly mixed.

Kelley will continue on with Harry's Law, which NBC has just renewed. And comic book fans will now likely breathe easier and hope that Wonder Woman gets another shot on TV or film in the not too distant future, with a more appropriate creator attached.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/object/088/088240/WonderWomanObboxart_160w.jpg

http://tv.ign.com/articles/116/1168108p1.html

That was quick.

[Lock Jaw]

Not too surprised about that one.

[parkmania]

Kathy Bates over Adrianne Palicki???

NBC = FAIL.

[Kalyx triaD]

Damn, not even gonna release the pilot episode (> Aguaman's "Mercy Reef"?)?

[Lock Jaw]

Damn, DC.

They've got this Flashpoint event coming up, and with it they have some absurd number like 16 miniseries to go along with it.

They canceled a few good series to make way for it too, including R.E.B.E.L.S. which was pretty fantastic. Really hoping R.E.B.E.L.S. comes back after the event is over or something. Call it L.E.G.I.O.N. again.

[parkmania]

DC Comics has announced that the last issue in its 5-part Flashpoint miniseries will be the only DC title that will arrive in comic book stores on August 31st, 2011. The 40-page, $3.99 final issue of the key series in the mega-crossover will be DC’s only release that week “because of its impact on the DC Universe.”

As DC put it on its The Source blog, “The war between the Amazons and the Atlantians has arrived. The battles between Diana of Themsycira and Emperor Aquaman will tear the world apart--unless The Flash can fix it.”

[Kalyx triaD]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TFdPunIPa_k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Really should have opened with this trailer, it shows off the galactic nature of GL much better.

[Fox]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TFdPunIPa_k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Really should have opened with this trailer, it shows off the galactic nature of GL much better.

It's definitely a better trailer, but I'm still not totally convinced. I'll withhold my judgments until I actually see the thing, but something about it is just screaming "Razzie Award" at me.

[Kalyx triaD]

The show may be canceled but here's a shot of Wonder Woman in her star-spangled bottom:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/05/shorts.jpg

Still miffed we may never see the pilot.

[Lock Jaw]

And a creepy looking bald dude

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, almost a photo bomb.

[LuigiD]

That looks like an athletic, non-fucked up version of Droford.

[parkmania]

And once more, for the record:

NBC passed up this:
http://www.icv2.com/images/20130WonderWoman_MD.jpg

in favor of this:
http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/photos/2009/06/25/schmidt.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

NBC's been aimless post Fresh Prince and Friends.

[Fox]

NBC's been aimless post Fresh Prince and Friends.

The Office? 30 Rock? Parks and Rec?

Wait, not Parks and Rec...

[Kalyx triaD]

I was half kidding.

[Lock Jaw]

The LA Times has announced that both Geoff Johns and Jim Lee will be appearing at its “Hero Complex Film Festival” on June 11th to drop “bombshell announcements about the future of Superman and the entire DC Universe.”

Interesting. Could be to do with movies, or could have to do with what is going to happen after Flashpoint is over in the comics.

[Kalyx triaD]

Don't think it had to do with movies... Perhaps some new media venture.

[Fignuts]

Loving Secret Six. Gail Simone is quickly becoming one of my favorite writers.

[Fignuts]

Oh, and I didn't like brightest day. Just felt like the story had no flow. Just a bunch of stuff jumbled together. Also, there were no resolutions to almost anything. It was almost like "Okay now start buying all these other books to find out how these stories end."

I don't mind a new story beginning in the epilogue, like the white lantern showing up at the end of blackest night, but when it leaves several loose ends, that will be tied up in multiple books, that is just a marketing ploy.

[Fignuts]

There sure are a lot of white haired bitches in the DCU. Not talking about old people mind you, but young women who inexplicably have white hair.

[Kalyx triaD]

I haven't noticed.

[Lock Jaw]

I can think of two.

And yeah, Secret Six is fantastic.

Brightest Day may have been meh, but Justice League: Generation Lost was enjoyable. Though again, there is some stuff in that series that seemed to go nowhere.

[Fignuts]

Oh shit, forgot I downloaded that. Gotta start reading it.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/05/plane_01.jpg
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/05/wonder-woman-image-4.jpg
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/05/wonder-woman-image.jpg
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/05/wonder-woman-image-2.jpg

The pilot may or may not be floating around now. I think they may give it the Aqua Man treatment and make it available as a standalone.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/117/1171671p1.html

Hmm...

[Fignuts]

This is why I prefer Marvel.