All Elite Wrestling

[Volare]

Dropkick Michinoku Driver as a finisher HELL YES! Sabian and Havok are great as well!

[erickman]

Watching Dark...Allie is wearing a tight red dress...this isn't fucking fair!

she needs to go back to being chary bomb

[Volare]

Wardlow winning by KO..I can dig that.

[Volare]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my God Colt can throw a chop.

[Volare]

And I'm still jealous of Kip...

[Volare]

I'm ready for Best Friends vs Omega/Hangman.

[Volare]

And Orange is still fucking awesome!! AND BATTLE ROYALE FOR #1 CONTENDER FOR TNT TITLE!!

[Sting Fan]

I kinda like the belt, I like that its something a bit different. Not sold on the name though...

[dronepool]

Tomorrow should be interesting.

[Jordan]

Would you hire Hawkins and Cardona?

Listening them on Jericho's podcast, I think they would be a blast in AEW. Cardona is proven charismatic talent and Hawkins is really good in the ring and great with character work. I thought his work with the loosing streak was fantastic and should have had a big pop at the end of it but obviously, they WWE'ed it.

I know we don't want AEW to be all friends wrestling. Well at least Cornette doesn't. I think these two deserve a spot on the roster. I can imagine they would be hilarious working with Jurassic Express and Best Friends.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Honestly no. At least not as on air talents. They were both booked as jokes in wwe and don't bring any credibility. I'd rather they bring in guys like Moxley, an obvs big name who was mishandled, or a Rusev type who was charismatic, funny, had success and consistent visibility but also wasn't utilized to his full potential.

[Evil Vito]

I mean the relationships are there - Ryder is tight with Cody and Hawkins was MJF and Statlander's trainer. But I wouldn't bring them in. They'd be pretty damn far down on the tag ranks in that division, even moreso once FTR come in.

Besides, they've said they don't want to be a regular tag team anyway. They have a wishlist of teams they'd team up to face if the opportunity arises on the indies but otherwise they're content to work solo while they host their podcast.

Don't really see any value in them as singles guys in the AEW scene. I actually think Impact might be the best choice for Ryder where there's a lot of emphasis on characters ahead of in-ring skill. Hawkins could go pretty much anywhere and be a decent hand but I think his school will be the bigger priority for him anyway.

[slik]

Warner Media synergy


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[XL]

I’d see Cardona as another potential Dillinger tbh.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Dillinger/Spears has been a bummer. He got off to a great start. Got Tully. Got a big match. It was fine that he lost. But he's done jack shit since then.

[xrodmuc316]

Would you hire Hawkins and Cardona?

Listening them on Jericho's podcast, I think they would be a blast in AEW. Cardona is proven charismatic talent and Hawkins is really good in the ring and great with character work. I thought his work with the loosing streak was fantastic and should have had a big pop at the end of it but obviously, they WWE'ed it.

I know we don't want AEW to be all friends wrestling. Well at least Cornette doesn't. I think these two deserve a spot on the roster. I can imagine they would be hilarious working with Jurassic Express and Best Friends.

Not that I am saying it would work exactly like the nWo, but AEW could certainly sign five or six released WWE guys to come in as a faction wanting to take all the top spots.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That's a good idea. But it's gotta be guys better than those 2.

[xrodmuc316]

That's a good idea. But it's gotta be guys better than those 2.

Right, I'm not saying it has to be those 2. But a Rusev led stable with say Rowan and Axel could certainly be supported by Hawkins and Ryder.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Fuck no. That's jobber central. The only one there of interest is Rusev.

[Evil Vito]

That stable would be awful and it would go against their claims that they aren’t gonna hire everyone WWE discards.

Goldust was an easy add as he was Cody’s brother and a ready-made story.

Mox is a star.

Brodie, Matt, FTR all had various degrees of buzz around them due to untapped potential or in Matt’s case a gimmick that, while not for everyone, has a following. Rusev would give me a similar vibe to those guys and would be a sensible add from all the recent WWE releases.

The only one that I have trouble justifying and felt like a TNA signing was Spears and signing guys like Ryder would be a comparison. They should stay away with that.

[Lock Jaw]

What is The Ryback up to? They should sign The Ryback

[Droford]

I'm glad they signed Brian Cage from impact to break up the stream of talent released by WWE. They need to sign Tessa Blanchard away from impact later this summer when her contract expires

[Bad News Gertner]

What is The Ryback up to? They should sign The Ryback

Yes!

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on newest estimates, this year's Double or Nothing show is rumored to have broken last year's number and set a new all-time PPV buys number in company history.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm glad they signed Brian Cage from impact to break up the stream of talent released by WWE. They need to sign Tessa Blanchard away from impact later this summer when her contract expires

Tessa is the best women's talent out there, but I'm not sure she is "friendly" enough to get a spot.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you've ever wondered what a bruised tailbone looks like... <a href="https://t.co/y6cMezGEWp">pic.twitter.com/y6cMezGEWp</a></p>&mdash; Jon Moxley (@JonMoxley) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley/status/1266816718002769920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Droford]

Clutch Adam's is gone from AEW Dark for past racist tweets

[slik]

New 4 Horseman incoming?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Message heard....<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/TloF0Dsg7y">pic.twitter.com/TloF0Dsg7y</a></p>&mdash; HEARTLESS (@Perfec10n) <a href="https://twitter.com/Perfec10n/status/1267517597349707778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I've watched the promo like 5 times. Tully is so good. It's a shame he's being wasted on Spears, who doesn't need a mouthpiece and has been booked as jobber to the stars and less.

If this leads to Tully turning on Spears with a new acquisition so be it.

[#1-norm-fan]

That would probably be the best move. I’m not big on Spears. Not everyone can be a main eventer. He served a purpose being fed to Cody in a quick little feud and now he’s settled as a low mid-carder. Tully turning on him and pairing up with someone higher up the card could give Shawn another nice little feud for a bit. Though AEW seems like it might be heavy on mid-card faces.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Tully would've been great for Cage. Hell, he'd have been awesome for FTR. The turn and debut comes with Tully telling Spears he's found the perfect partners, for him, not for Spears. FTR jumps Spears and beats the fuck out of him. Spears has to find a partner for Fight for the Fallen to try and avenge himself, and he and said partner get fed to FTR.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Nonetheless, Tully is gonna be a great mouthpiece when he gets a talent worth his presence.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You’ve now joined your husband in being banned from all AEW shows. Congratulations.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1267893197314953222?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

That doesn’t seem very inclusive.

[#1-norm-fan]

Tully would've been great for Cage. Hell, he'd have been awesome for FTR. The turn and debut comes with Tully telling Spears he's found the perfect partners, for him, not for Spears. FTR jumps Spears and beats the fuck out of him. Spears has to find a partner for Fight for the Fallen to try and avenge himself, and he and said partner get fed to FTR.

Damn. Tully with FTR. Kinda love that thought.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW put a good Tully promo on their social media. Why it wasn’t on their TV show, I don’t have a fucking clue. LolAEW. But it also looks like they are trying to Shawn Spears, Cody and FTR together as some sort of Fourtune Four group. LolAEW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A huge mistake companies make with these Horsemen groups -- except for maybe WWE when it comes to Evolution, which felt self-aware enough to be a faction about the "past, present and future" -- is that they they get four people that vaguely remind you of former Horsemen, and they want them to get over by lifting four fingers. That's instead of having four guys who can get the four fingers over.

If this were Jericho, MJF and FTR, then it might be something. You'd have Le Champion, the hottest rising heel and the best heel tag team. It makes perfect sense. The issue with that is besides Spears, who should be cast out of the group, you'd then probably have to turn the rest of the Inner Circle babyface, which is just too much.

UNLESS you did this as an all-out war between two sides. Tully Blanchard's heels against Arn Anderson's faces. The two old guys would be like generals. It kicks off with Tully wanting to re-live the past and Arn confronting him saying this can't be them anymore. Then a heel gets involved and hurts Arn. This puts him at direct odds with Cody. That's whoever you want to be his big analogue for the blow-off, which should come down to Jericho, MJF and FTR as the main heels. So it'd probably be best for MJF to take out Arn. Or Lance Archer to spin that along, with Tully purchasing his contract off Jake. Then you can move onto MJF later.

But then you'd need to book All Out to be "All Out War" and have two sides up and down the card. Because you can't have Cody going into War Games (or "All Out War" which would be better than "Blood & Guts") and have him on a team with, like, Dustin Rhodes, Shawn Spears and Darby Allin. Where are his buddies in The Elite? They should be helping out Cody. So where is the Inner Circle? It gets so messy, but you'd need to give people fixed programs that result in blow-off matches like the conclusion to the Invasion angle should have been. Dustin can be out of the War Games because he's now got a real personal feud with "Heartless" Shawn Spears, who wants to prove his overall worth to the cause.

That COULD work. You'd probably want the final main event to be the top four faces in the company against the top four heels. So that would be Cody, Jon Moxley and probably Adam Page and Kenny Omega if they're teaming. You could turn Omega and put him on the heel side and do a big singles with Page, but then you'd probably have The Bucks as the tag team, and that...doesn't have as much base.

So you get Mox, Cody, Page & Omega as the final faces representing Arn -- "The Elite Enforcers" or some shit -- going against Blanchard's Four Horsemen of the AEW Apocalypse -- Chris Jericho, Maxwell Jacob Friedman and Formerly the Revival, where the good guys would have to go over, which would mean whoever is your biggest babyface getting the submission from Chris Jericho.

Argh, it's just so complicated and I know they won't do it that way. It'll be campy Cody promos with him doing evil laughs and the Horsemen Revival actually getting cheered because who won't want to see Arn and Tully hug? And then you'll have Shawn Spears and FTR there just having matches with people who never find any unity.

I'd rather they just had Tully manage FTR, to be honest. I'm maybe seeing upside to Cody trusting Shawn Spears after everything, Shawn turning heel on Cody and then MJF leading the group. Eh. It just feels so TNA.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Damn. Tully with FTR. Kinda love that thought.

It's a really great fit honestly. And I think Tully ripping Spears is planting the seeds to him leaving.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really can see this being Cody, Spears and FTR, guys.

[Simple Fan]

What is The Ryback up to? They should sign The Ryback

Ryback has always and will forever be thrash. He derailed Curtis Axel's career and then ruined his own. If he was worth anything he'd have done something by now.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ryback has always and will forever be thrash. He derailed Curtis Axel's career and then ruined his own. If he was worth anything he'd have done something by now.

Rybaxel was the only time Curtis was interesting.

[Bad News Gertner]

Shawn Spears is a giant fucking bore. Tully is being wasted on him.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I agree with Gertner. Ryback was way better than Axel. And Tully should be paired with either FTR or another younger wrestler with upside. Wardlow would've been a good one of not paired with MJF. But someonelike that who needs the mouthpiece abs credibility Tully can lend.

[slik]

I think I found Noid's twiter account

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reminder <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a> better than dynamite!!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a></p>&mdash; Héctor Serrano (@HecBitw) <a href="https://twitter.com/HecBitw/status/1269105814368854018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Pierre]

Currently not a Spears fan either. I hate to rip the guy because it’s obvious how passionate he is, but the guy just seems like such a “try-hard” that’s stuck in 2006.

With that being said, AEW obviously loves him and are giving him several chances to get over and stay over.

I think sometime within the next 3-4 months that Spears will be apart of a new heel stable led by Adam Page alongside FTR and managed by Tully.

[Jordan]

I am on the fence with Spears. He is endearing to me as a person but his character and booking has been pretty mild thus far minus the initial program with Cody. Seems like he is heating up again.

It's interesting how AEW just changes course on things that aren't working, or drops them quickly altogether. I feel like the majority of Shawn's programs have ended without any positive for anyone, again except the original Cody program.


Also whatever is going on with Bunny. She seems to have dropped Butcher and Blade and is now doing a new gimmick with QT Marshal, I think they are in a relationship in real life. It's intriguing because QT could be a great AEW made star that we all can pull for. Strong underdog and great fire from him in the ring.

[Jordan]

I'm not too hot on Darby right now. I was really into him the first few months of AEW on TNT but it's what I've seen off screen that has soured me. I was just searching for clips of what I'm talking about on youtube but I couldn't find it, could've been removed or I just don't know where to look. Once I saw some video he had produced, a weird reality show of sorts featuring someone who they said was a drug addict and needed money. So Darby would devise really fucked up things to make the guy do, for a little bit of money. I can't remember exactly what I saw but it was degrading and uncool and Darby reminded me of the prick Skateboard crew in my hometown when I was a kid, who were essentially just scummy dudes. I think I might have seen him make the dude eat some poop for money or something like that.

Also, while I really enjoy his matches, he he can come up with original spots given the opprotuity, I'm starting to feel that he is a bit of a one trick pony... Shoulder dives and coffin drops is really all he's got. Otherwise he's just taking big bumps and selling, which he does very well.

I'm just feeling quite critical of Darby you guys.

[Jordan]

Also I wanted to bring up another interesting talking point. From reading The Obsever over the last few months one take you can grab on the sly is that The Young Bucks are not "good for ratings". From what I've read it seems like The Bucks are one of the biggest ratings flops so far in AEW. Why is that? Personally I love The Bucks, I pop for'em like I'm watching Austin in the 90's. But there are a lot of people online who hate them (obvs). I wonder if they would draw better ratings if they were heel? Also what happens if they go bald soon like HBK? Will they stay "Young" Bucks? like HB"K"??

We all know he should have changed that acronym to HBM, the Heart Break Man. Maybe they will change their name to "The Big Bucks".

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.

[Jordan]

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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.

I herd that the amount of people who listen to Cornette's podcast is just below the amount that usually watch AEW. So yeah you are right, good move.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also I wanted to bring up another interesting talking point. From reading The Obsever over the last few months one take you can grab on the sly is that The Young Bucks are not "good for ratings". From what I've read it seems like The Bucks are one of the biggest ratings flops so far in AEW. Why is that? Personally I love The Bucks, I pop for'em like I'm watching Austin in the 90's. But there are a lot of people online who hate them (obvs). I wonder if they would draw better ratings if they were heel? Also what happens if they go bald soon like HBK? Will they stay "Young" Bucks? like HB"K"??

We all know he should have changed that acronym to HBM, the Heart Break Man. Maybe they will change their name to "The Big Bucks".

The ratings aren't really significantly moving one way or another. If there's a trend that an estimated 10k or whatever drop off during their matches, it's probably just one guy with a Nielsen box who really doesn't like them.

[#1-norm-fan]

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Essentially, FTR is working with Cornette here, who's going out of his way to push the angle for these guys. He's indirectly promoting AEW.

Pretty smart move from FTR , as the crowd that listens to Cornette is going to like them as a tag team, though not necessarily be into AEW.

I watched their interview from Dynamite last week. Seems they’re basically doing a more subtle version of Cornette’s gimmick. They even mentioned FTR could stand for “follow the rules”, which is a clear as day nod to Cornette. That combined with this and... I kinda get the feeling hell is gonna freeze over and Cornette is going to work with AEW at some point. Not soon and maybe just as a one-shot thing but it just seems like we’re heading there.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Cornette showingup to manage FTR against the Bucks would be amazing. Oh god the promos lol.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That would make me want to tune in.

[Jordan]

I want Cornette. But I don't see Tony bending over for it.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don’t think it would be so much Tony “bending over” for it as Kenny Omega.

[erickman]

i wonder if they are working cornette, i can't belive that ftr was not in on 2016 bucks cody thing. they responded like they were. if fdr did not want it they could have pm'ed the bucks and say stop. i like the short term deal though so ftr can go to other places like roh and impact.

[#1-norm-fan]

Hearing Cornette say his hatred of The Bucks is purely professional was... interesting.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

IMO it just seemed like he was going out of his way to help FTR. I don't think they were working him. I mean - they were working - just in unison with one another. Cornette might not enjoy the Bucks or Omega, but would likely want a team that represents a form of wrestling he respects to have all the momentum possible.

And, while FTR probably gets along perfectly well with the Bucks and Omega, they're also southern boys who I'm guessing grew up on Jim Cornette. So, they were probably marking the fuck out, and had no problem with Jim heeling on the AEW VPs not named Cody.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It also further sells what will eventually be a big marquee tag match for AEW. The whole handshake deal is whatever. I think they'd be great in New Japan when they get going again but I can they shouldn't have an issue working Japan, Mexico and the states if they're with AEW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

FTR and Cornette were working with each other. It's helped out FTR more than their debut did.

[Jordan]

Cornette does support AEW. In his own way. He doesn't tear down everything, and he has said he wants to to succeed. With his boys there you know he's going to come around just a bit, at least for their segments.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cornette does support AEW. In his own way. He doesn't tear down everything, and he has said he wants to to succeed. With his boys there you know he's going to come around just a bit, at least for their segments.

He sees it in a pretty logical way. It's not every day you get a billionaire taking a chance on wrestling because there is giant money in TV deals. When that billionaire's son niches the product so much that it only gets $45 million in TV rights (a pittance by TV standards), and only stands to make its money back over three years (with a bit extra), then it's going to be more off-putting to anyone else looking to get in and present the product people have really been hungry for -- something that is actually different and competitive to the WWE.

People outside wrestling aren't going to draw distinctions between good wrestling and bad wrestling. They're going to see what Vince McMahon's wrestling can do, and what "not Vince McMahon's wrestling" can do. It won't matter to them that AEW is a juiced-up PWG.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not medically cleared to wrestle yet.<br><br>���� Don’t need a doctors note to jump off a balcony. <a href="https://t.co/gqNLIJu7TS">pic.twitter.com/gqNLIJu7TS</a></p>&mdash; DARBY ALLIN (@DarbyAllin) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin/status/1270132326903582720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Volare]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Cornette would be a challenging fucking coach. I'd probably punch him because I'm a hot head.

[XL]

I am on the fence with Spears. He is endearing to me as a person but his character and booking has been pretty mild thus far minus the initial program with Cody. Seems like he is heating up again.

It's interesting how AEW just changes course on things that aren't working, or drops them quickly altogether. I feel like the majority of Shawn's programs have ended without any positive for anyone, again except the original Cody program.


Also whatever is going on with Bunny. She seems to have dropped Butcher and Blade and is now doing a new gimmick with QT Marshal, I think they are in a relationship in real life. It's intriguing because QT could be a great AEW made star that we all can pull for. Strong underdog and great fire from him in the ring.

I’m not keen on that approach. I get changing direction/moving away from something that isn’t working but I think they need to wrap the story up in some way. The thing with Allie is just weird. You’re not dealing with fans that don’t know that Dr. Issac Yankem became Kane, you’re dealing with an audience that knows that Allie was The Bunny, and now she’s not, with no story or payoff.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not medically cleared to wrestle yet.<br><br>���� Don’t need a doctors note to jump off a balcony. <a href="https://t.co/gqNLIJu7TS">pic.twitter.com/gqNLIJu7TS</a></p>&mdash; DARBY ALLIN (@DarbyAllin) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin/status/1270132326903582720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I fucking hate this guy so much. He’s such a piece of shit, and it makes it hard to invest in him as a wrestler.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’m not keen on that approach. I get changing direction/moving away from something that isn’t working but I think they need to wrap the story up in some way. The thing with Allie is just weird. You’re not dealing with fans that don’t know that Dr. Issac Yankem became Kane, you’re dealing with an audience that knows that Allie was The Bunny, and now she’s not, with no story or payoff.

Just have Tully turn on Spears after putting him with a tag team that needs him as a mouth piece

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fine. <a href="https://t.co/Iktz8cOdvd">https://t.co/Iktz8cOdvd</a></p>&mdash; Orange Cassidy (@orangecassidy) <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy/status/1270790072259018755?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmao

[Mr. Nerfect]

Orange Cassidy sinking the kinda steady ship.

[#1-norm-fan]

I fucking hate this guy so much. He’s such a piece of shit, and it makes it hard to invest in him as a wrestler.

I think Cornette kinda likes Darby Allin now. At least I heard him say they were doing a good job with him. At the very least he seems to have softened his stance on him as a wrestler.

Which is weird because I usually agree with Cornette but I don’t see much at all in Darby Allin.

[rez]

Orange Cassidy sinking the kinda steady ship.

It's gonna be revealed that OC is the bastard son of The Natchah Boy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Cornette kinda likes Darby Allin now. At least I heard him say they were doing a good job with him. At the very least he seems to have softened his stance on him as a wrestler.

Which is weird because I usually agree with Cornette but I don’t see much at all in Darby Allin.

From what I've seen in the ring, Darby is quite good. I hate the leggings and his Coffin Drop bullshit. But at least when he dives he means it, and he can sell. He's just such a fucking horrible piece of shit human. He was gloating about paying addicts money to put their heads into dirty toilets on Jericho's podcasts. He's just awful.

[Volare]

I'll put my rep on the line...mark the fucking date....we are in the golden age of Tag Team Wrestling again...fucking calling it.

[Volare]

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Just ordered my shirt.

[Black Widow]

Just here to leave this:rofl::rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/JTGJQ4H.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s not far from the truth.

[slik]

Possible new signing to AEW (and it's a good one)


Ricky Starks

[BigCrippyZ]

It’s not far from the truth.

JFC. Actually it is about as far from the truth as one can get. It's literally factually incorrect and untrue. Unless your backyard is a 5,500 seat amphitheater or a 67k capacity NFL stadium.

[Bad News Gertner]

Perception is reality.

[XL]

Tbf with the live audience numbers at the moment it’s all Backyard Wrestling.

[Emperor Smeat]

Possible new signing to AEW (and it's a good one)


Ricky Starks


When I was thinking of who or which promotion would be the first to be involved as the non-AEW challenger to Cody's TNT title in Dynamite's thread this week, never expected NWA by association to actually be it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

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Just ordered my shirt.

I'm ready to crack open some ice cold Budweisers after hearingthat

[fundiddle]

I'm ready to crack open some ice cold Budweisers after hearingthat
YEAH

[Vastardikai]

Possible new signing to AEW (and it's a good one)


Ricky Starks


Again, the guy can work, he's a decent talker, and women find him attractive. As such, the AEW Brass will not know what to do with him.

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

JFC. Actually it is about as far from the truth as one can get. It's literally factually incorrect and untrue. Unless your backyard is a 5,500 seat amphitheater or a 67k capacity NFL stadium.

No, it's not. It's a fucking parody of itself. When WWE is actually better than you, it's time to fucking quit. You hitched your wagon to a losing horse because you're so riddled with anti-WWE angst that you would let anyone else walk up to you and put their dick in your mouth and pretend you like the taste.

Cue "take Vince McMahon's dick out of your mouth." Dude, you're obsessed. With Vince, with WWE, with dicks, with me. Your entire fandom is based around AEW being "Not WWE." Because WWE sucks. Get it? WWE sucks. At least AEW is not WWE. You don't like AEW? You must love WWE. But WWE sucks. Stop sucking Vince McMahon's cock. WWE sucks. AEW is not WWE. WWE sucks.

At their last PPV in their opening match for a World Title shot -- a clusterfuck Ladder Match in the opening match (hmm, why does that sound familiar?) -- one of the World Title contenders stood on ladder lying on the ground and tried to fly to win the match. If that doesn't insult your intelligence, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Fucking idiot cunt. You're fucking cooked. Go home.

Perception is reality.

That's a much nicer and more succinct way of saying it.

Tbf with the live audience numbers at the moment it’s all Backyard Wrestling.

Well, Raw and SmackDown are both still several times bigger than Dynamite, respectively.

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What a fucking insecure fap. "Please love me. I'll buy you stuff." Heard about him buying Burger King for the after-parties too, haha.

Again, the guy can work, he's a decent talker, and women find him attractive. As such, the AEW Brass will not know what to do with him.

He'd threaten Cody too much. Getting more and more convinced that the reason AEW is such a "buffet" is because Cody doesn't want anyone but him doing pro-wrestling, because he knows he'll be out-classed the second anyone else good is around.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not medically cleared to wrestle yet.<br><br>���� Don’t need a doctors note to jump off a balcony. <a href="https://t.co/gqNLIJu7TS">pic.twitter.com/gqNLIJu7TS</a></p>&mdash; DARBY ALLIN (@DarbyAllin) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin/status/1270132326903582720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seriously, can we please talk about how cunty this is?

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Shad Khan decided to put the money down for a brand new wrestling promotion when this virus ended, it could be bigger than AEW in a few weeks. Move over Jim Ross to do commentary there. Let the AEW guys do AEW things on AEW and let the brand new promotion be handled like professional wrestling on TBS or something.

Was just thinking about this. My last hope is that AEW is just a practice to see if Tony can run something on his own. Once you get the TV rights money, you can sustain this new one and even AEW for as long as you want.

It seems insane to have two wrestling promotions, but the TV revenue must sound mighty good, and AEW hasn't really secured that crust.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

calm down, Noid.

[weather vane]

Weird guy. Weird.

[Vastardikai]

He'd threaten Cody too much. Getting more and more convinced that the reason AEW is such a "buffet" is because Cody doesn't want anyone but him doing pro-wrestling, because he knows he'll be out-classed the second anyone else good is around.

The crack was more about the "women find him attractive" part of my comment than anything else. Because none of the AEW crowd is designed to draw women. The reason is that the fans for the AEW crowd have never had a positive interaction with a woman that wasn't named "Mom."

Let's be real, as much hate as John Cena received, he lasted as long as he did on top because the Mom's of the kids that were much of his fanbase found him attractive. Same deal with Roman Reigns.

If a wrestling promotion isn't finding a way to engage the female audience, be it with pushing a dude they'd find attractive or with a storyline that'd maintain thier attention (Edge/Lita/Matt is the first one to pop into my head, Mandy/Otis I guess would be another) they are doing it wrong.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Ricky Starks sucks.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He's 190 lbs. They have enough of those guys already. They need less wet noodles and more guys in the 220 range and up. Like Cage. Or Rusev.

[BigCrippyZ]

:lol: Did someone piss in Noid's cereal again?

[xrodmuc316]

I like how Tony Khan went out of his way to say Hulk Hogan is banned from AEW. We finally found a former WWE guy AEW doesn't want to sign!

All AEW has shown is at best they are a blend of TNA bringing in every former WWE guy they can and Ring of Honor bringing in the biggest Indy names they can and telling us how great they are.

It's just this weird mix where they are using the Indy names to put over the former WWE guys, unless it is the executives, who then use the former WWE guys to put themselves over, unless the former WWE guys are actual stars like Jericho or Moxley.

Everything is a tongue in cheek eye wink joke, and the only one who comes across having any real passion for the brand is Cody Rhodes. Everybody else is just working the gimmick that AEW is the greatest thing ever, bragging about their contracts and freedom.

They have lost a third of their audience in one year. They had the chance to hook them, and failed miserably.

Another third are like me, they still watch because it's wrestling, and wrestling is better then pretty much anything else on tv.

Then the last third are brainwashed and think a dude riding a horse on a football field is the greatest thing of all time, and will scream it to anybody and everybody they can. These are the ones that make the above third like me embarrassed to watch the same show they do.

[#1-norm-fan]

All AEW has shown is at best they are a blend of TNA bringing in every former WWE guy they can and Ring of Honor bringing in the biggest Indy names they can and telling us how great they are.

... Well who the hell SHOULD they be bringing in???

[Lock Jaw]

Ricky Starks sucks.

Better/worse than Bran Stark

[xrodmuc316]

... Well who the hell SHOULD they be bringing in???

That is not the actual issue, the point being that they can't sell us on this revolutionary change when they are following the same blueprint TNA and ROH have been doing for 15 years.

[Mr. Nerfect]

... Well who the hell SHOULD they be bringing in???

I don’t have specific names, but apparently at the New Japan of America tapings last night, there was like one wrestler with WWE experience. I’m not saying they should avoid them completely, but they are out there. They’re just not friends with the EVPs.

:lol: Did someone piss in Noid's cereal again?

Great point. You’re so smart and reasonable. Fucking cooked anus.

[#1-norm-fan]

That is not the actual issue, the point being that they can't sell us on this revolutionary change when they are following the same blueprint TNA and ROH have been doing for 15 years.

Yes. The blueprint of bringing in ex-WWE guys like TNA and top indy guys like ROH. As opposed to... ?

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Since the news is out. I told you I’d dive on Kip again and dammit I did. But in doing so, I ended up with a high grade tear in my ACL. Yes I need surgery. Yes I’ll be out of the ring for a while. I’ll do my best to still show up on your TVs as much as I can. <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> ���� <a href="https://t.co/oVS495nwok">https://t.co/oVS495nwok</a></p>&mdash; Kris Statlander (@callmekrisstat) <a href="https://twitter.com/callmekrisstat/status/1272246509917163521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Ricky Starks has an incredible ass. Glad they signed him or are bringing him in for a one-off. I have more eye candy than just Kip, Darby and Sammy now.

[slik]

People complaining about AEW hiring people who have wrestled in WWE yet how many people have AEW gotten over since the company started?


Luchasaurus
Jungle Boy
MJF
Sammy Guevara
Darby Allin
Britt Baker

Almost like AEW is building people who will be stars for them for a while, what a novel concept!

[XL]

The history of wrestling is built on bringing people in from other territories/companies.

[slik]

I know 'back in the day' people used to complain Ric Flair was 'ruining the sport' because of his over the top reactions and flops in the ring (similar to people now with flips)...

...I wonder if fans back in the day used to complain about AWA or WCCW or NWA bringing in stars from other territories too...

[xrodmuc316]

People complaining about AEW hiring people who have wrestled in WWE yet how many people have AEW gotten over since the company started?


Luchasaurus
Jungle Boy
MJF
Sammy Guevara
Darby Allin
Britt Baker

Almost like AEW is building people who will be stars for them for a while, what a novel concept!

Stars to who? Aside from MJF, have any of them won a high profile match? MJF beat Cody, and is a very good talker. Britt is also a very good talker, but she doesn't have any big win moments.

Having a company saying they are going to treat it like a real sport, but also we have dinosaurs and aliens does not mean they are stars, no matter how hard Tony Schiavone tries to sell it.

Having undersized skateboarders and tarzans have 10 minute draws does not mean they are stars, no matter how hard Jim Ross tries to sell it.

Why do you think that NBA on TNT Twitter used WWE characters to hype a Milwaukee Bucks vs LA Lakers, not AEW wrestlers on the same channel they are on.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don’t get this knock on AEW’s hiring practice. Signing the best guys from TNA ROH and the Indies is the entire NXT model and they produced the best wrestling product in America since Bryan and Punk left ROH.

This method should be celebrated.

[xrodmuc316]

The history of wrestling is built on bringing people in from other territories/companies.

Right, that's not the point. The point is they promoted this brand as revolutionary, but they are just another wrestling show. As a wrestling fan a lot of it is good, some is bad, but it's much more good than bad.

The point is they aren't attracting new fans, because they are a blend of 2 wrestling companies that have been around 15 years. 2 wrestling companies that have never gained any substantial fanbase.

We enjoy it because we are wrestling fans, but AEW is certainly not this giant revolution of pro wrestling that they sold us on before Dynamite started and they had buzz and momentum.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Imagine if WWE didn’t hire Austin, Taker, HHH, Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, Edge, Hall, Nash, a thousand others because they didn’t want people to think they’re just hiring failed WCW guys. That’s an insane business practice. Hire people with talent.

[Vastardikai]

How many of those folks were brought in and put over their home grown top guys right off the bat, though?

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE pretty much has relied heavily on TNA/Impact and ROH to fill their big star needs in recent years considering the lack of home grown big stars their PC and NXT developmental systems have produced.

AEW not having a real scouting system in place is pretty much why they've relied more on WWE cast-offs and personal connections to help fill their roster. Same for them lacking a real academy or training place at the moment to help better develop their younger stars.

[Emperor Smeat]

I know 'back in the day' people used to complain Ric Flair was 'ruining the sport' because of his over the top reactions and flops in the ring (similar to people now with flips)...

...I wonder if fans back in the day used to complain about AWA or WCCW or NWA bringing in stars from other territories too...

Probably considering how even more rabid wrestling fans were back in the day.

Even some wrestler hated the newer gen of stars back in the day considering the story of Lou Thesz hating Harley Race for a long time because he felt Race's style of wrestling was hurting the business and was too different from his own style.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

How many of those folks were brought in and put over their home grown top guys right off the bat, though?

AEW doesn’t have homegrown talent. They all come from somewhere else.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yes. The blueprint of bringing in ex-WWE guys like TNA and top indy guys like ROH. As opposed to... ?

Or like WWE bringing in big names from the territories to build their golden era in the 80s?

[Bad News Gertner]

They should call it AEWWE

[slik]

Conrad Thompson should make a cameo dressed as the Shockmaster in a backstage segment

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Only if Cody sees him and asks "uncle Fred?"

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should call it AEWWE

I've used that one, actually. That and Anything Else Wrestling are my favorites.

[Bad News Gertner]

Probably considering how even more rabid wrestling fans were back in the day.

Even some wrestler hated the newer gen of stars back in the day considering the story of Lou Thesz hating Harley Race for a long time because he felt Race's style of wrestling was hurting the business and was too different from his own style.

Harley Race was considered a spot monkey

[xrodmuc316]

Or like WWE bringing in big names from the territories to build their golden era in the 80s?

Yeah, that's my point. If EVERYBODY else has done that, and then AEW ALSO does that, then they aren't special, original, or Revolutionary. Repeatedly telling me "Oh like WWE didn't do that" just proves AEW is just another wrestling company. They haven't changed or done anything different, which is why they lost a third of their fans in one year.

And before the "how many fans has WWE lost" replies come, again, that just proves my point, they are they same thing.

[drave]

eh. I just know one show seems to entertain me more than the other. Maybe because I'm not familiar with a lot of the on-screen talent. I dunno.


I tried to watch Backlash..... didn't get far. Or, it could just be that wrasslin isn't "for me" anymore.

[Evil Vito]

AEW has entertained me more consistently in the past year than WWE has in the past 10.

Doesn't mean I like everything about the show or that there hasn't been stuff on WWE that I've liked (see: SmackDown mid-2016-early 2017 which I thought was awesome)....but I don't feel like I'm wasting my time watching Dynamite every week. I find it's an easy two hour watch and even when they've had a mediocre episode they do a good job of rebounding the next week. In enjoy it.

To each their own.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who would you wanna see this dude from Prometheus wrestling in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a>? <a href="https://t.co/K78VX77Ztk">pic.twitter.com/K78VX77Ztk</a></p>&mdash; TNTDrama (@tntdrama) <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama/status/1272653932569882624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

AEW getting desperate

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, that's my point. If EVERYBODY else has done that, and then AEW ALSO does that, then they aren't special, original, or Revolutionary. Repeatedly telling me "Oh like WWE didn't do that" just proves AEW is just another wrestling company. They haven't changed or done anything different, which is why they lost a third of their fans in one year.

And before the "how many fans has WWE lost" replies come, again, that just proves my point, they are they same thing.

Again, this is a weird fucking thing to harp on them for being “same old shit” on. They aren’t allowed to get talent from WWE because that makes them like TNA. They aren’t allowed to get talent from the indies because that makes them like ROH. Since you can’t seem to answer me when I ask what the other option is I assume you expect them to be the first company to create their own wrestlers in a laboratory.

[BigCrippyZ]

Again, this is a weird fucking thing to harp on them for being “same old shit” on. They aren’t allowed to get talent from WWE because that makes them like TNA. They aren’t allowed to get talent from the indies because that makes them like ROH. Since you can’t seem to answer me when I ask what the other option is I assume you expect them to be the first company to create their own wrestlers in a laboratory.

Exactly. It's not like WWE hasn't gotten talent out of the indies, multi-generational talent, WWE, etc. Unless you expect them to literally grow talent in a lab or pull talent literally from the ether and/or heavens, I don't know where you exactly you expect them to get talent from.

This is the dumbest criticism I've ever heard. I've never criticized any other promotion for getting talent from where they've got said talent from. What I've criticized them for is what they've actually done with the talent they've signed.

Let me know when any of the former WWE talent, or the AEW "original" talent (whateve the fuck that stupid ass standard/definition means), are (1) regularly or actively working to not put over other so-called AEW/unknown/new/original talent, (2) have little to no actual input on their character, storylines, or feuds, (3) are working ridiculously stupid scripted segments, matches, or promos every night/week, or (4) when they're all working the same pointless "WWE" or even "AEW" style of matches regardless of opponent every week.

Then, and only then, will AEW be anything close to being the same pathetic, cookie-cutter, bullshit, boring and pointless product that is WWE.

Also, let me know when AEW is run by an apparently senile, certainly ego maniacal, out of touch, approaching octogenarian, 74 year old guy, who only hires/employs around him, his own pathetic and equally stupid family members, and the same "yes" men who he's employed and trusted since the 1980s and 1990s.

Again, then and only then, will AEW be anything close to the same as WWE.

[xrodmuc316]

Again, this is a weird fucking thing to harp on them for being “same old shit” on. They aren’t allowed to get talent from WWE because that makes them like TNA. They aren’t allowed to get talent from the indies because that makes them like ROH. Since you can’t seem to answer me when I ask what the other option is I assume you expect them to be the first company to create their own wrestlers in a laboratory.

I'm not harping on it. All I said was they lost a third of the audience who tuned in to see something different, but then just saw more of what probably made them stop watching Impact or ROH 10 years ago. It is also part WWE in look, because they have a real budget.

I said a lot of stuff, people replying to THIS one point is the only reason I have addressed it further. For the record, of course they should sign former WWE guys, of course they should find Indy guys and bring them in.

I'm still watching every week, I'm not part of the 1/3rd of the audience they lost. That is because as I said originally, wrestling is still better than pretty much anything else on tv. AEW is much more good than bad, I enjoy it.

I guess best I can say is read the entire post as a whole, don't pick out one single point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Exactly. It's not like WWE hasn't gotten talent out of the indies, multi-generational talent, WWE, etc. Unless you expect them to literally grow talent in a lab or pull talent literally from the ether and/or heavens, I don't know where you exactly you expect them to get talent from.

This is the dumbest criticism I've ever heard. I've never criticized any other promotion for getting talent from where they've got said talent from. What I've criticized them for is what they've actually done with the talent they've signed.

Let me know when any of the former WWE talent, or the AEW "original" talent (whateve the fuck that stupid ass standard/definition means), are (1) regularly or actively working to not put over other so-called AEW/unknown/new/original talent, (2) have little to no actual input on their character, storylines, or feuds, (3) are working ridiculously stupid scripted segments, matches, or promos every night/week, or (4) when they're all working the same pointless "WWE" or even "AEW" style of matches regardless of opponent every week.

Then, and only then, will AEW be anything close to being the same pathetic, cookie-cutter, bullshit, boring and pointless product that is WWE.

Also, let me know when AEW is run by an apparently senile, certainly ego maniacal, out of touch, approaching octogenarian, 74 year old guy, who only hires/employs around him, his own pathetic and equally stupid family members, and the same "yes" men who he's employed and trusted since the 1980s and 1990s.

Again, then and only then, will AEW be anything close to the same as WWE.

AEW is run by an incompetent, dog-wanking cunt who is absolutely spineless and just wants to pay people to hang out with him. He has said one thing and done another a billion times, and he actually sooks on Twitter when he gets out-smarted by talent. Tony Khan himself has said that AEW did too much comedy early on. Have they dialed that down? No. He’s spineless. And he’s to blame for Vince’s current monopoly. And the fucking idiots who clap like trained seals and can’t see what is going on.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm not harping on it. All I said was they lost a third of the audience who tuned in to see something different, but then just saw more of what probably made them stop watching Impact or ROH 10 years ago. It is also part WWE in look, because they have a real budget.

I said a lot of stuff, people replying to THIS one point is the only reason I have addressed it further. For the record, of course they should sign former WWE guys, of course they should find Indy guys and bring them in.

I'm still watching every week, I'm not part of the 1/3rd of the audience they lost. That is because as I said originally, wrestling is still better than pretty much anything else on tv. AEW is much more good than bad, I enjoy it.

I guess best I can say is read the entire post as a whole, don't pick out one single point.

I didn’t find anything terribly wrong with the other points in the post. That’s why I didn’t mention them. I picked out the weird point in the post where you condemned them for signing guys from WWE and also for signing guys from the indies because it was a fucking weird thing to say. And then double down on.

[xrodmuc316]

I didn’t find anything terribly wrong with the other points in the post. That’s why I didn’t mention them. I picked out the weird point in the post where you condemned them for signing guys from WWE and also for signing guys from the indies because it was a fucking weird thing to say. And then double down on.

But I didn't condemn them for it, just that it is one of the reason they lost the 3rd of the audience they did. The casual/lapsed fans that sampled Dynamite and did not see a reinventing of the wheel, just another pro wrestling show, and tuned out.

[Jordan]

I love AEW, the product makes me happy more often than not.

[Mr. Nerfect]

But I didn't condemn them for it, just that it is one of the reason they lost the 3rd of the audience they did. The casual/lapsed fans that sampled Dynamite and did not see a reinventing of the wheel, just another pro wrestling show, and tuned out.

I disagree that it’s another pro-wrestling show or that they even had to reinvent the wheel. Just be good. AEW so much of the time (way more than a lot of people want to admit), is really bad sports entertainment-style wrestling parody. It’s more akin to what WWE does to alienate audiences than it is what has fundamentally worked in the past.

People had their intelligence insulted pretty quickly. I think the people on-board with AEW look past that because it’s not WWE and they are so hungry for something else that they’ll accept anything else.

[#1-norm-fan]

But I didn't condemn them for it, just that it is one of the reason they lost the 3rd of the audience they did.

Well alright.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think AEW tries too hard to be the “back to the basics” rasslin’ show while also trying hard to appeal to a specific, “new age” part of that crowd that doesn’t give a fuck if anything makes sense. It’s a turn off. I don’t like it.

WWE does the same kinda thing where they try to appeal to both casual fans and hardcore fans at the same time and it becomes a muddled mess.

That being said, I am able to find things in AEW that I enjoy even if I can’t make it through an entire show without cringing.

I can’t really say the same for WWE.

[slik]

I love AEW, the product makes me happy more often than not.

Same

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like MJF when he's not in music videos. Jungle Boy and Sammy Guevara are both really good, but they are often associated in a lot of cringe-worthy things. Not sure where the "back to basics" talk comes from. It really feels like they are trying to be "cutting edge" almost all the time and weld PWG-style comedy with 2000 WCW-type stuff. Well, it's not as good as Mean Gene calling people "pissants."

[#1-norm-fan]

Cody’s matches, properly used enhancement talent, MJF’s entire existence, FTR hopefully, Dustin... there are plenty of “back to the basics” aspects.

I’m not really sold on Sammy but Jungle Boy gives me early 90s WCW Saturday Night Pillman vibes that I enjoy.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, they seem to be picking up a lot of guys who don’t look like I could beat them up, which is REALLY refreshing in 2020.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Watching Dark right now. One thing I absolutely do not like is how they treat Luchasaurus as an equal member of Jurassic Express. That is insane. He should be the hot tag that murders everybody after the other two get done.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Big Swole has combined a TKO into a GTS which is kinda cool. Also using a rainmaker discus forum which is a bit busy. Which is crazy because I previously said she uses a TKO into a GTS

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Lance Archer would’ve been a main event heel in the 80s/early 90s. Good monster character.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Cody’s matches, properly used enhancement talent, MJF’s entire existence, FTR hopefully, Dustin... there are plenty of “back to the basics” aspects.

I’m not really sold on Sammy but Jungle Boy gives me early 90s WCW Saturday Night Pillman vibes that I enjoy.

I think Guevara has a ton of potential/upside. He's come a long way just establishing his personality since joining the inner circle on night one of tv.

I agree with everything you're saying. I think of AEW stuck to the basics across the show they'd be even better. Pretty much every Cody match is a shining example of how that shit works so well.

I've liked what they've done with Moxely. Page has grown a lot since being forced into the first world title match.

I don't mind the undercard comedy stuff. Matt Hardy schtick kills me. Especially because he's just broken right from the start. No build up for it. And the constant gimmick changes mid match doesn't do it for me at all.

[Bad News Gertner]

Cody’s matches, properly used enhancement talent, MJF’s entire existence, FTR hopefully, Dustin... there are plenty of “back to the basics” aspects.

I’m not really sold on Sammy but Jungle Boy gives me early 90s WCW Saturday Night Pillman vibes that I enjoy.

4xbZo63FVW4

Total built in storyline right there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cody’s matches, properly used enhancement talent, MJF’s entire existence, FTR hopefully, Dustin... there are plenty of “back to the basics” aspects.

I’m not really sold on Sammy but Jungle Boy gives me early 90s WCW Saturday Night Pillman vibes that I enjoy.

Completely disagree with properly used enhancement talent. Marko Stunt is not properly used enhancement talent. Nor is Alan Angels. The matches are way too competitive and the "talent" looks anything but. FTR and MJF I'll give you (hopefully -- I can still see FTR being made "funny"). Dustin...eh. Ideally, but he doesn't fucking do much of anything. Teaming with QT Marshall is so flat, and they're doing this thing with Brandi and Allie which reeks of The Diamonds in the Rough splitting because Elix Skipper got a new girlfriend or something. The match with Cody, sure, but you can leave your fucking Natural Nightmares.

Sammy is going to be way better as a babyface, and I don't like how they've turned him into a comedy guy. Jungle Boy is someone I completely endorse.

Within five years, it's very likely MJF, Sammy Guevara and Jungle Boy will all be under WWE contract, haha.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Watching Dark. Luchasaurus should keep his strikes simple. He threw a basic knee and kick and because he's fucking huge, it looked great.

One day he's gonna lose his mask and it'll propel him up the card, imo.

[xrodmuc316]

Watching Dark. Luchasaurus should keep his strikes simple. He threw a basic knee and kick and because he's fucking huge, it looked great.

One day he's gonna lose his mask and it'll propel him up the card, imo.

He's not huge though. Hager, Archer, Brodie, and even Dustin are bigger than he is. He is roughly the same size as Billy Gunn.

Just cause he wrestles with and against 5 foot 8 guys doesn't actually mean he is huge.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Billy Gunn is enormous.

[#1-norm-fan]

Billy Gunn is enormous.

I was gonna say that but I thought it would lead to a weird conversation where xrod would be like “but that wasn’t my point” and then I’d be like “Well, you said that thing verbatim and it didn’t make sense” and then he’d be like “Yeah, but you’re missing the point. Of course Billy Gunn is huge...” and then my head would start to hurt.

[xrodmuc316]

Billy Gunn is not huge. Braun Strowman is huge. 6'8" 385lbs should be the starting point for huge, not a dude built like pre-steroids Test.

[Emperor Smeat]

Watching Dark. Luchasaurus should keep his strikes simple. He threw a basic knee and kick and because he's fucking huge, it looked great.

One day he's gonna lose his mask and it'll propel him up the card, imo.

I disagree mostly in regards to him losing the mask.

Rather he feel unique than become just another potential generic big man and just wrestle as one as well. All he really needs is to add a power move to his arsenal to enhance his big man status in a group that's very balanced in terms of guy types.

The mask stuff has been a big issue I've had with WWE over the years with masked guys. Either WWE quickly unmasks them or changes them too much that they lose what made them feel special to begin with. El Hijo del Phantasmo being the latest incident of this more so on the sudden unmasking.

[Tom Guycott]

Billy Gunn is not huge. Braun Strowman is huge. 6'8" 385lbs should be the starting point for huge, not a dude built like pre-steroids Test.

How about this: Billy Gunn is bigger than you would assume he is in both height and mass, be it enhanced or not. The point was a viable measuring stick on how much of a "monster" Luchasaurus actually is in relation to the talent on the roster, not a debate in semantics on the definition of "huge".

[Tom Guycott]

I disagree mostly in regards to him losing the mask.

Rather he feel unique than become just another potential generic big man and just wrestle as one as well. All he really needs is to add a power move to his arsenal to enhance his big man status in a group that's very balanced in terms of guy types.

The mask stuff has been a big issue I've had with WWE over the years with masked guys. Either WWE quickly unmasks them or changes them too much that they lose what made them feel special to begin with. El Hijo del Phantasmo being the latest incident of this more so on the sudden unmasking.

That's something you can count on WWE doing: taking luchadores out of masks to repackage under a trademarked name, and burying & breaking up perfectly fine tag teams for no good goddamn reason only to throw together other random ass singles stars when they "need" a team.

I think the only reason why Lucha House Party were all still masked was because they were convinced they could "create" another Rey Rey. Ask either Sin Cara how well that shit worked out.

I have less problem with Luchasaurus keeping his mask than I do Excalibur, and I am in the minority that thought nothing of Excal wearing his in the booth while mostly everyone else was throwing a shit fit about it.

[xrodmuc316]

How about this: Billy Gunn is bigger than you would assume he is in both height and mass, be it enhanced or not. The point was a viable measuring stick on how much of a "monster" Luchasaurus actually is in relation to the talent on the roster, not a debate in semantics on the definition of "huge".

Which was my point, the narrative that Luchasaurus is so huge is bullshit, he isnt. He's billed at 6'5" 270lbs. Billy Gunn at 56 is roughly the exact same size and never worked a "big man" gimmick.

Both Rock and Triple H are in the same range, not to mention both who were more muscular, and neither of them worked the "big man" gimmick either.

Luchasauras only looks big wrestling against 5'8" guys and teaming with 5'5" and 5'2" 125 pounders. But it's typical wrestling smoke and mirrors, he is no more huge then he is a real dinosaur.I

Then when he squares up against a Jake Hager and is visibly smaller, it instantly exposes him as not really that big.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Brock Lesnar is 6'3 286, and he's always been presented as a monster. Luchasaurus is a big man. If they present him as a monster, he can be a monster, or big man.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Billy Gunn is enormous.

Good to know AEW doesn't drug test.

[xrodmuc316]

Brock Lesnar is 6'3 286, and he's always been presented as a monster. Luchasaurus is a big man. If they present him as a monster, he can be a monster, or big man.

Because Brock Lesnar is a monster. Same as Bobby Lashley. That jacked with real life skills is a different factor altogether. They are actual could kill 99.99% of the people walking around in this earth with their bare hands.

They are a whole other category.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Luchasaurus isn’t very good, which is a shame, because he’s got a good look. Although he looks like knock-off Seth Rollins without the mask.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Billy Gunn is not huge. Braun Strowman is huge. 6'8" 385lbs should be the starting point for huge, not a dude built like pre-steroids Test.

Except everyone in wrestling talks about how big Billy Gunn is. He isn’t a giant but he is like 6”5 260 or 270, especially since he is on the gear. If you were next to him you’d shit yourself.

[Bad News Gertner]

I met Billy Gunn a couple of years ago. He was at eye level with me and I'm 6"5 1/2

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Gertner wears lifts.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I met Billy Gunn a couple of years ago. He was at eye level with me and I'm 6"5 1/2

Like his head came up to your eyes or you were around the same height?

[Evil Vito]

I think if Billy Gunn had the grasp of psychology he has now back when he looked the way he did in '96-'97, he'd have been the star they wanted him to be in '99-'00.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah, he was kept around despite his lack of "it factor" largely because of the way he looked, plus he was a tremendous athlete. Prichard discussed how he actually had asthma which gave him big problems in longer, main event style matches--which hurt him in the long run.

It's weird, he'd do super athletic things, but I can't remember a single good Billy Gunn match.

[Bad News Gertner]

Like his head came up to your eyes or you were around the same height?

Same height

[Bad News Gertner]

Gertner wears lifts.

Kane, Chris Jericho and Iceman King Gertner

[Jordan]

Watching Dark... I appreciate how this show kind of feels like WCW Saturday night. The veterans on this show are not as solid as the veterans WCW had under contract but still its solid. They can make some talent known on here too. Lots of chubby and skinny girls in AEW. They need to hit up Titan Games and steal those amazing women.

[Jordan]

The costumes of some of the jobbers on Dark is embarrasing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I cannot believe that with their budget they cannot get outfits that look semi-professional. Brodie Lee's gear was just awful, and he was supposed to be a main event level star. The willingness to let talent do whatever is just too much. Tony Khan says they don't want to be like WCW, but they kind of are in that regard.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Aubrey Edwards on the recent episode of Talk Is Jericho podcast, AEW's video game is in the very early stage of development.

Also revealed that Kenny Omega and herself are also helping work on the new game.

https://www.cbr.com/aew-video-game-kenny-omega-aubrey-edwards/

[Jordan]

My love affair with AEW is sliding. I am not a fan of Tony Khan as a person on Twitter, he is starting to remind me of an owner of an e-fed. Responding to Dave's tweet about how he shouldn't watch NJPW before any other wrestling because it's not fair was total cringe.

Add that to the horrible costumes they have been outfitting talent with and some pretty spastic booking along with a ton of twinky talent, I'm not as into AEW as I was about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I feel the last few Dynamite's have been subpar with other shows which was bound to happen because so many Dynamites have been brilliant.

Also I'm just a little unthrilled with the current angles aside from Mox/Cage.

I'd like to see some fire start burning hot on this show. I have a feeling this is the point where AEW is facing their fist identity crises of sorts. We are a year in and you still can't really say what AEW is yet. It's been a buffet of wrestling so far, and for me very enjoyable but now I'm waiting to see something a little more solid.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah Tony moaning about Meltzer saving NJPW shows for last was really dumb. Anyone who's followed Dave for any length of time knows that Japanese wrestling has always been his favorite style with NJPW being the pinnacle of it.

He knows he's going to like that show the best out of everything he watches that day because it's appreciably different than all American promotions. Seems silly to try calling him out on it.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I think they’ve almost got too bloated a roster now that it must be tough deciding who to push. During Dynamite I could see the pieces for All Out falling into place but so many people probably left off the card

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Card probably something like

Jericho v Tyson
Moxley v MJF
Cody v Brodie Lee
Dark Order v Hangman and Omega
Young Bucks v FTR
Hikaru Shida v Britt Baker (assuming she’s back in time)
Cage v Darby Allin (again assuming he’s back in time)
Best Friends and Orange Cassidy v Lucha Bros and PAC

That’s 8 fairly likely matches based on what they’ve had building up or started building towards pre-corona.

Then you’ve got all these guys who are/have been fairly prominent probably thrown into a battle royal or something I guess if you want them on the card. Seems quite a WWE thing to do though

The rest of Inner Circle
Matt Hardy
Lance Archer
Jungle Express
Private Party
Superbad Squad
Colt Cabana
Butcher and Blade
Dustin and QT
Shawn Spears
SCU
This new Starks guy

[Evil Vito]

Yeah, the roster is definitely getting big for the TV time available.

Creatively the good thing about a big roster is that you don't have to overexpose anybody, you could easily make it so that nobody ever wrestles two Dynamites in a row. MJF wrestles one week, does a promo or vignette to advance his storyline the next, etc. They were pretty good at cycling talent like that pre-pandemic.

The flipside is it means stuff like Cody's Open Challenge becomes meh in a hurry because while he's a good worker, I don't necessarily want to see a 15 minute Cody match every week when there's other talent to be showcased. Same thing I'm critical of WWE with where they've got a giant roster yet the same guys wrestle every week while a quarter of the roster never make it out of catering.

[Bad News Gertner]

The tag division is a bloated mess

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Funnily enough I don’t think the tag division is a mess despite having so many teams. Nearly every team has something that separates them from the rest and they nearly all have some sort of ongoing storyline. They maybe could’ve done without teaming up Dustin/QT and Kip/Havoc since if anything they’re a bit short on midcard singles guys. But for the most part I like the rotation they have with their tag teams.

Although Jack Evans and Angelico need a lot more air time, they’re one of the best

[slik]

AEW's roster doesn't bother me, I'd like to see them keep collecting people until they have the perfect mix of over talent then let the rest go...keep signing people like Starks, Abadon, etc, keep building up homegrown names and then release a ton of people when you no longer need their services...

[slik]

I'd recommend cycling people in and out too, like soap operas do....once you have people over enough put them on tv for 3 months then take them off tv for 2-4 months while other stuff is happening...

[Bad News Gertner]

Funnily enough I don’t think the tag division is a mess despite having so many teams. Nearly every team has something that separates them from the rest and they nearly all have some sort of ongoing storyline. They maybe could’ve done without teaming up Dustin/QT and Kip/Havoc since if anything they’re a bit short on midcard singles guys. But for the most part I like the rotation they have with their tag teams.

Although Jack Evans and Angelico need a lot more air time, they’re one of the best

The Lucha Brothers went from being the hottest tag team on the scene to also rans

[slik]

thats bc of rona

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I mean, they weren't doing much before the virus. Death Triangle is an odd partnership that made little sense and kinda felt like a throwaway group to give Pacsomething to do.

[Bad News Gertner]

That's what I mean. They came in as the hottest tag team in wrestling . Lost in the shuffle.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yep. In all reality they should've won the tag titles in the original tournament.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'd recommend cycling people in and out too, like soap operas do....once you have people over enough put them on tv for 3 months then take them off tv for 2-4 months while other stuff is happening...


Just send them to one of the terr... nevermind.

[XL]

AEW's roster doesn't bother me, I'd like to see them keep collecting people until they have the perfect mix of over talent then let the rest go...keep signing people like Starks, Abadon, etc, keep building up homegrown names and then release a ton of people when you no longer need their services...

I don’t know how well that’d go over with AEW fans.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW is plagued by terrible booking. No one wants to admit it, but the 50/50 booking and cutting guys off at the legs is even worse in AEW than it is WWE. Goodwill is extended to them just because they aren’t WWE. Except now people are starting to see through it, and because AEW took the goodwill and excuses as a sign they were doing well, they haven’t adapted.

[screech]

I hate when people sell Marko Stunt's offense. I know I have to buy into certain things in rasslin, but with him I just can't.

Feels good to say that out loud.

[Bad News Gertner]

They are basically selling the offense of a Make A Wish kid

[Mr. Nerfect]

Marko Stunt is a scourge.

[screech]

They are basically selling the offense of a Make A Wish kid

That's exactly what I told my wife during Dynamite this week lol

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It'd be one thing if they stumbled around when he hits a move. Or he drop kicks them and maybe they trip out of the ring. But these guys are bumping for him and it's dumb.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The new car smell is wearing off.

[screech]

It'd be one thing if they stumbled around when he hits a move. Or he drop kicks them and maybe they trip out of the ring. But these guys are bumping for him and it's dumb.

Right? They bump for this little fuck on purpose. I hate it.

[Seanny One Ball]

I would happily bet Hornswoggle weighs more than Marko Stunt

[Mr. Nerfect]

Marko Stunt is their Hornswoggle, and people say this is an alternative. Bleh.

[XL]

I also disliked the Undertaker parody with Baker & Swole this week.

(There were things I disliked about NXT this week too but nobody talks about NXT here)

[Jordan]

Christ that is Monkey business is disgusting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I also disliked the Undertaker parody with Baker & Swole this week.

(There were things I disliked about NXT this week too but nobody talks about NXT here)

Nobody on the internet talks about it, but more people watch it internationally. It’s just how that goes. They’re blocking out the middle-man.

[slik]

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[Tom Guycott]

Cap coming to do cowboy shit (they should have edited him holding a beer)

[Mr. Nerfect]

All AEW is is a meme.

[drave]

People enjoy memes.

[Volare]

FTR vs SCU (Kazarian, Daniels)....hell the fuck yes!

[Mr. Nerfect]

People enjoy memes.

Good memes.

[Mr. Nerfect]

FTR vs SCU (Kazarian, Daniels)....hell the fuck yes!

That will be an excellent match. So would FTR vs. any SCU combination. I hope this leads to the SCU heel turn.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smart Man!</p>&mdash; Thunder Rosa (@thunderrosa22) <a href="https://twitter.com/thunderrosa22/status/1276023876879822853?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

https://i.postimg.cc/5Nxct4sr/D8-Sg1-Iald-IHWy-R7v-G172g-u-R9k-Xh-Zu-O8fck-M-Vy-UQ.png

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you can’t handle me at my “Drunk, holding a fish, dancing peoples faces off” phase then you don’t deserve me at my “sunglasses, sipping on OJ, and chilling real hard” phase <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@orangecassidy</a> <a href="https://t.co/92Ve9NjNIU">pic.twitter.com/92Ve9NjNIU</a></p>&mdash; DJStrongStyle (@DJstrongstyle) <a href="https://twitter.com/DJstrongstyle/status/1115788402895544321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

Thought of the day:

All Elite Wrestling should rename itself "All I'll Eat Wrestling" and turn it into a competitive eating and wrestling hybrid.

Between rounds of wrestling they have to eat an entire four course meal from soup to cheeseboard.

[#1-norm-fan]

Is “cheeseboard” the fourth course of a meal wherever you’re from???

Sounds alright.

[Lock Jaw]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/e9a3b58bb2cced844d76f0cc172f059a/tumblr_oths0uLj7s1rg89a6o1_500.png

[Seanny One Ball]

Is “cheeseboard” the fourth course of a meal wherever you’re from???

Sounds alright.


A cheeseboard usually gets put out after dessert or sometimes instead of it. I have no idea where the custom came from, France probably.

[Vastardikai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smart Man!</p>&mdash; Thunder Rosa (@thunderrosa22) <a href="https://twitter.com/thunderrosa22/status/1276023876879822853?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't think she'd fit in AEW, either.

For one thing, she isn't Britt Baker. For another, she one of the Executive Vice President in charge's personal fetishes.

Also, she's charismatic, can work, and has a personality. They'd be completely lost.

[rez]

AEW Dark. lol, I own that same leaf blower Joey brought in.

[Seanny One Ball]

Who needs a leaf blower?

M0IceGfgJHo

[drave]

Where can I get a synthesizer rake? want.

[drave]

Looking forward to tonight. The matches on paper sound excellent. Even a family member who is gung ho on WWE is skipping NXT, which is very strange.

[Droford]

Bought an MJF shirt and a DC worst town shirt with the new 20% off sale that started today. I'm accumulating AEW shirts

[Seanny One Ball]

Wait a few months and get them for pennies on the dollar

[Droford]

I dont think that's going to happen since they're partnered with PWT and the shirts are printed on demand

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And with that win on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDark?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDark</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ScorpioSky?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ScorpioSky</a> joins an exclusive club in gaining his 20th AEW win. <br><br>These are the three winningest wrestlers in AEW. <a href="https://t.co/jayVjsmdxm">pic.twitter.com/jayVjsmdxm</a></p>&mdash; Will ✊�� (@WilliamRBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WilliamRBR/status/1278110726641475584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sky being #3 is a bit surprising but also makes sense since AEW has viewed him as a potential breakout star since he's worked the most out of everyone in SCU and has been treated pretty well overall.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Him getting his singles record padded makes me think they're priming him for a big push soon

[slik]

While I do like AEW quite a bit I and truly enjoy the show much more than RAW/SD, it zooms by and is easy to watch...I do think Tony Khan needs to hire ONE writer from TV to help him w / story beats and show structure.

AEW does jump around a lot. I appreciate them always trying to stay fresh...but I do think Tony needs someone to help him have better follow thru...

Ex:
Why did it take until this week for Jungle Express to win a big tag match
When was Darby's last big victory
When was Sammy's last big victory
Where is Abaddon
Where is Ricky Starks
What happened to Scorpio Sky, he's disappeared post Jericho feud


etc...

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW is just as bad as WWE when it comes to not making sense.

[Fignuts]

They have too many workers for one weekly two hour show.

[Emperor Smeat]

While I do like AEW quite a bit I and truly enjoy the show much more than RAW/SD, it zooms by and is easy to watch...I do think Tony Khan needs to hire ONE writer from TV to help him w / story beats and show structure.

AEW does jump around a lot. I appreciate them always trying to stay fresh...but I do think Tony needs someone to help him have better follow thru...

Ex:
Why did it take until this week for Jungle Express to win a big tag match
When was Darby's last big victory
When was Sammy's last big victory
Where is Abaddon
Where is Ricky Starks
What happened to Scorpio Sky, he's disappeared post Jericho feud


etc...

At least in regards to Starks and Sky, Starks wrestled on this week's episode of Dark while Sky has been mostly hanging around in Dark in recently weeks.

When they were running those series of vignettes on Sky a while ago, it did feel like they had some big plans for him but whatever it was got delayed because of the coronavirus or some other reason.

If the outside stuff involving Darby ends up tanking his chances of taking the TNT belt off of Cody, Sky would be a very good replacement since they've been slowly building up his profile on Dark in recent weeks.

AEW doesn't really need the type of writer WWE chews up on a regular basis since the stuff they are doing is pretty basic story-wise but wouldn't hurt at all to get like a managing editor on board to tighten up their creative work. Some of WWE's greatest success during the Attitude Era wasn't from writing but via the use of storyboards to keep everything in check.

[slik]

I like that storyboard idea/managing editor a lot

[Mr. Nerfect]

They have too many workers for one weekly two hour show.

Some of them are even good. It's their fault they're overloaded, and the last thing they need is more content. That's such a WWE problem.

[Evil Vito]

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lol I'm definitely buying this

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Hahaha brilliant

[Droford]

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lol I'm definitely buying this

Wasn't available yesterday and I'm pissed lol

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems AEW might not be traveling outside of Daily's Place until possibly this October at the earliest.

Cancelled two more shows this year due to the coronavirus leaving just 6 left on their schedule this year for non-Daily's Place shows.

In a move that was inevitable given the current state of the pandemic in the United States, AEW announced on Thursday that their Boston, MA, and Philadelphia, PA, Dynamite events will take place in 2021 instead.

The rescheduled show set for Philadelphia's Liacouras Center on July 29th (originally set for April 22nd) will now take place on Wednesday, April 7th while the Boston show at Agganis Arena on August 5th (originally set for April 15th) will now happen on Wednesday, April 21st ...

At this point, AEW still has six live dates scheduled for the duration of 2020: St. Louis, MO, (October 7th); Milwaukee, WI (October 28th); Houston, TX (November 4); Rochester, NY (November 11th); New Orleans, LA (December 2nd): and Albuquerque, NM (December 30th).

[slik]

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone did this

bwahahahahahahahahahaha



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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Files Late Renewal Trademark On 'Cody Rhodes,' Trademark For 'The Man' Abandoned <a href="https://t.co/MCm3DJyTpb">https://t.co/MCm3DJyTpb</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@FightfulWrestle) <a href="https://twitter.com/FightfulWrestle/status/1278827304978796548?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

I would like to congratulate AEW on a near 800% increase in viewers from this time last year.

[Bad News Gertner]

More like 650%

Or are you counting DVR viewers lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's going to be funny when we can congratulate them on breaking even with their audience prior to getting TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I had someone try to count illegal streamers in order to defend AEW's popularity the other day.

[Fignuts]

Archer should have won the TNT title tournament. Cody's storylines are already great and don't need to be enhanced with a title.

Meanwhile, Archer would have made a huge impact, coming in and beating the golden boy for the title. And it would have given him a built in storyline as a monster that the faces have to beat to get the title and reach the next level.

Instead Archer feels like he's just another guy on the roster.

[Emperor Smeat]

Would have just given more ammo to those online who have been howling for months about AEW being nothing more than just a new TNA in the sense of giving every cast-away or "reject" a major push right out of the gate.

Even Cody winning gave more ammo to those who think he's just another Triple H when that's barely true. If anything he's closer to WCW era Jeff Jarret in terms of him punching too much over his actual star power and the rest of the Elite not matching it.

Ideally Archer shouldn't have been in the tournament to begin with and instead use those weeks to build up his profile more so he becomes the first major challenger to Cody's reign.

Cody's problem is less that he won but more of his shtick has been exposed a lot from the lack of crowds since his stuff is way more character and drama based than the rest of the Elite. Same for Orange Cassidy being a lot more effective when there are crowds around than without.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't understand the purpose of a TNT Title at all. The whole thing with Cody losing his right to challenge was an obvious set-up to him eventually going after the AEW Title itself. Now he's got an unnecessary mid-card title win and loss to his name by the time he does it.

[Fignuts]

Would have just given more ammo to those online who have been howling for months about AEW being nothing more than just a new TNA in the sense of giving every cast-away or "reject" a major push right out of the gate.




So what?

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't understand the purpose of a TNT Title at all. The whole thing with Cody losing his right to challenge was an obvious set-up to him eventually going after the AEW Title itself. Now he's got an unnecessary mid-card title win and loss to his name by the time he does it.

Going by recent interviews, its basically AEW paying homage to the classic NWA and WCW TV title with the idea of it being more like WWE's IC belt from back in the day in terms of status. Not something strictly for the mid-card but on paper would have enough prestige to act as a stepping stone title.

Cody being the first champ and only current singles member of the Elite is meant to build up that initial prestige.

[Jordan]

I just wanted to put in writing that at this time I am not definitely purchasing All Out 2020. I will have to be sold. I blindly bought all of AEW's PPV's and let one fact be known, I've never regretted it. But, AEW isn't getting any less (leg) slap happy and I'm not down with Tony's presence on social media and trying to obviously "win" people over with his wrestling markdom. I really need to get of Twitter probably. AEW/WWE war is toxic and constant and also what is with the female wrestling STANS (I hate how this term is so widely used) and their devout passion that goes back to the whorey days of Lita and Trish to a complete obsession with Sasha or Bailey or Io ... god let's not even get into the Joshi fans.

I really miss looking into the audience and seeing excited children reacting like they are having the time of their life or laughing because the show is ridiculous and they know they can flip off this big bad rassler and nothing will happen to them. Or that old couple that is dressed the same as they would if they went out to dinner at a decent local restaurant. I want to see a woman there with a group of her friends that think the wrestler is hot but also love the action....

I hate markdom.

So tired of tools all wearing black shirts with EXPLOSIVE logo's, shaggy hair, and beards. I am tired of hearing wrestling fans chant their stupid chants too. The only thing that needs to be chanted is THE NAME OF THE WRESTLER, ASSHOLE, AND USA. Anything else can fuck off.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah tbh I'm kind of "over" wrestling right now. Not that I've watched new stuff for years. But even doing my nostalgia deep-dives has lost its luster as of late.

Sadly, what I've seen of AEW hasn't done much to change that. I still think it has plenty of promise with some great talents. I just wish they moved away from the Indy-riffic trash.

[Jordan]

I really love going into the past. I am so into everything I can get my hands on that is a good quality. I really love watching the footage saved from the International Ampitheatre in Chicago. It's magical. I want to find some high quality episodes of the the Australian World Championship Wrestling by Jim Barnett because it is a historic promotion but ultimately I know it didn't really "matter" in the big picture as a promotion so I never really have got into it.

[Evil Vito]

I can totally understand why not everyone is into AEW. I love the vast majority of what they put out, definitely see room to improve certain areas but most of what they've done has clicked for me and I've enjoyed it. Dynamite flies by for me most weeks.

To each their own. For me, AEW and NJPW's return in the last few weeks have been more than enough to scratch my wrestling itch. Plus the occasional NXT though I really haven't been big on the pandemic shows.