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Evil Vito
02-10-2021, 08:53 AM
That's just it - when he's telling old stories, talking about some of his road trips, etc it's great and a lot of fun to listen to.
When he keeps pissing and moaning about a business that isn't to his tastes anymore, it's a bore to listen to. But unfortunately a large portion of his listeners like to hear him rail on the current stuff so he has to keep doing it.
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 08:59 AM
The only time I ever have to turn him off is when he gets into politics. I didn't turn on the Jim Cornette Wrestling Podcast for his opinion on the Supreme Court.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-10-2021, 09:07 AM
That's just it - when he's telling old stories, talking about some of his road trips, etc it's great and a lot of fun to listen to.
When he keeps pissing and moaning about a business that isn't to his tastes anymore, it's a bore to listen to. But unfortunately a large portion of his listeners like to hear him rail on the current stuff so he has to keep doing it.
I much prefer the a la carte clips they put on YouTube than listening to the whole episode. The stories are incredible.
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 09:13 AM
I much prefer the a la carte clips they put on YouTube than listening to the whole episode. The stories are incredible.
Unfortunately that's what I've been doing too. I used to have a weekly ritual where I'd sit in my car and eat Chipotle when a new episode came out but there's been too many times where I've had to turn him off lately.
The wackiest stuff with Corny is that he's willing to scorch personal relationships because he doesn't like certain things. I'm pretty sure he's completely burned bridge with Chris Jericho over AEW, somebody who he knows and at one time had a pretty close personal relationship. That's where it gets batty.
Evil Vito
02-10-2021, 09:16 AM
He spent years saying glowing things about MJF only to immediately retract all praise for him because he did a singing segment with Jericho.
Pretty sure he even said flat out he'd never praise a current wrestler again because they'll inevitably "whore themselves out."
So straight up admitting he knows current wrestling isn't for him and he's not going to even try. Yet he complains about it weekly. Talk about the old days you have a passion for instead of spending big chunks of your podcast just taking down stuff that isn't geared towards you anymore.
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 09:21 AM
I've always thought it funny how many guys are like "I love Jim Cornette. I want to be his friend. He's just such an asshole."
Evil Vito
02-10-2021, 09:27 AM
lol his review of the women's Rumble he started the match halfway through because "come on, I can't sit through an hour long girls Rumble"
you don't have to review it at all, Jim.
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 09:33 AM
Thats another thing. When he's like "I review AEW every week because that's what the fans want." Like it's this burden and he doesn't take any joy in shitting on modern wresting. Come on now. We know better, Jim.
thecc
02-10-2021, 10:05 AM
I’m just tired of the discourse he creates now. Everytime time someone calls him out on his blatantly racist, homophobic, or transphobic shit there’s some crusty dude always willing to defend him.
thecc
02-10-2021, 10:18 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jim Cornette is Donald Trump. Both use nostalgia to instigate hate and anger towards anyone who thinks differently than they do. (A thread)...</p>— EDfromPODVANDAM (@PodVanDam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PodVanDam/status/1163482459356442624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 10:22 AM
I’m just tired of the discourse he creates now. Everytime time someone calls him out on his blatantly racist, homophobic, or transphobic shit there’s some crusty dude always willing to defend him.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 10:24 AM
I could make a list of grievances a mile long about corny and none of that would be on it.
thecc
02-10-2021, 10:26 AM
He was retweeting intentionally shitty things against nonbinary people yesterday. and its not the first time either. and all the shit he said about Sonny Kiss.
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 10:32 AM
Who is going to Jim Cornette for nuanced views on gender studies?
Supreme Olajuwon
02-10-2021, 10:33 AM
Did he delete the tweets because I’m going through his feed and I don’t see them
thecc
02-10-2021, 11:08 AM
it looks like he deleted the retweet but this was the one in question
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheJimCornette</a> If wrestling needs to be more real we need a tag team of non binary millennials called the Snowflakes who take a bump everytime someone opens their mouth</p>— Nick Withers (@Nickwithers1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nickwithers1/status/1190360128492621824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
And its not that anyone expects his nuanced takes. It's the fact that he's constantly saying shit like this and its clear most of his fanboys would rather ride his dick then not be shitty to oppressed people. Like he can't even do the bare minimum. And its frustrating that people either won't or choose not to see the problems it causes.
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 11:24 AM
That's a pretty tame tweet, honestly. I don't know. It's not like I don't see your point, I just don't get how he's any less mean to literally everybody else. I guess I don't see the "targeting" element. If you want to argue that he's a grumpy old man who's mouth constantly gets him in trouble then sure but I'm not getting the homophobic/transphobic angle. He's a lifelong Democrat who talks about the importance of equality all the time and regularly shits on Republicans for exclusionary legislation. Even if he's out of date with his speech, I don't see where the malice towards these groups is.
Evil Vito
02-10-2021, 03:58 PM
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Good background info on the joshi women in the tournament. Love stuff like this.
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thecc
02-10-2021, 04:48 PM
That's a pretty tame tweet, honestly. I don't know. It's not like I don't see your point, I just don't get how he's any less mean to literally everybody else. I guess I don't see the "targeting" element. If you want to argue that he's a grumpy old man who's mouth constantly gets him in trouble then sure but I'm not getting the homophobic/transphobic angle. He's a lifelong Democrat who talks about the importance of equality all the time and regularly shits on Republicans for exclusionary legislation. Even if he's out of date with his speech, I don't see where the malice towards these groups is.This might come across meaner than I intend but that's a pretty god damn privileged look at it. Every time this happens, queer people call him out on the issues it causes for us. Instead of showing any kind of remorse, he just doubles down and in turn his followers end up harassing us. I could see the point if it was just once that would be one thing but it's not. And for the record, it's not just him he's just the loudest one. I think the biggest thing that really gets to me but it usually leads to cis straight people always trying to talk over us and I'm just tired of it at this point.
Also I hate the idea that just cuz he's shitty to everyone that it makes it ok.
drave
02-10-2021, 04:50 PM
Imma watch the fuck outta some AEW tonight!!
Nark Order
02-10-2021, 05:43 PM
This might come across meaner than I intend but that's a pretty god damn privileged look at it. Every time this happens, queer people call him out on the issues it causes for us. Instead of showing any kind of remorse, he just doubles down and in turn his followers end up harassing us. I could see the point if it was just once that would be one thing but it's not. And for the record, it's not just him he's just the loudest one. I think the biggest thing that really gets to me but it usually leads to cis straight people always trying to talk over us and I'm just tired of it at this point.
Also I hate the idea that just cuz he's shitty to everyone that it makes it ok.
Him being shitty to everyone makes it equal, not necessarily ok. If the specific accusation is targeting minority populations for harassment, I don't think that is shaking out to be the case. People are allowed to be mean to people, that's just the way of the world. If you want to argue he's a jerk, sure have at it. If you're trying to argue that he shouldn't be allowed to be mean on the internet or should only be allowed to be mean to people you deem appropriate, grow up.
Bad News Gertner
02-10-2021, 05:52 PM
I'm pretty sure Cornette's main issue with Sonny Kiss was that she was presented with no backstory which is completely reasonable with a gimmick like that.
Are Sonny Kiss/Janela still a tag team? I thought they worked better as a tag team than individual wrestlers.
Bad News Gertner
02-10-2021, 06:29 PM
I read the AEW results and Janela accompanied Kiss for her match last night
Emperor Smeat
02-10-2021, 06:39 PM
Are Sonny Kiss/Janela still a tag team? I thought they worked better as a tag team than individual wrestlers.
Yeup.
They show up from time to time on Dark but think the reason for their lack of matches in recent weeks was due to Janela getting hurt during his match against Omega earlier in the year and him being busy working for GCW.
I wouldn't be surprised if Janela leaves AEW once his contract is up. Less due to his low status or lack of direction in the company and more due to him just enjoying working a lot more in a GCW style setting.
Mr. Nerfect
02-12-2021, 07:39 PM
Just your occasional reminder that AEW sucks. How many kidnappings did they do this week?
Supreme Olajuwon
02-12-2021, 08:13 PM
I mean I was held captive, but only as a viewer. Does that count?
Supreme Olajuwon
02-12-2021, 08:18 PM
No matter how much I wanted to look away, I couldn’t. Because it was so great.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fascinated by the censorship choices of this. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tna02?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tna02</a> <a href="https://t.co/13lyG1vHKi">pic.twitter.com/13lyG1vHKi</a></p>— Jusin (@Justin_SofOK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_SofOK/status/1360059927352516609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lock Jaw
02-12-2021, 10:32 PM
Wonder what Disco Inferno is doing these days..... should bring him back in next year's Rumble even though he was never a WWE guy....
He spends a lot of time trolling people on Twitter
I wonder if this is Smelly Meatball...ya never know, he could have kept this secret for YEARS from the tpww universe
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tna02?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tna02</a> <a href="https://t.co/zyYyxOrbxO">pic.twitter.com/zyYyxOrbxO</a></p>— Jusin (@Justin_SofOK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_SofOK/status/1358180965261201413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Emperor Smeat
02-12-2021, 10:59 PM
I can say with 100% certainty that I've never been that fat before.
Sure I've gained a few pounds during this coronavirus pandemic but nowhere close to looking like a human sized meatball.
Going by Cagematch's listing, that picture of Meatball was from his only appearance ever in TNA.
Vastardikai
02-12-2021, 11:23 PM
He spends a lot of time trolling people on Twitter
He also does a podcast with Konnan, called Keeping it 100.
Am I wrong or is everything happening in the Inner Circle ( Sammy quitting ), leading up to the IC turning on Jericho? I hope it is. I hope they beat the shit out of Jericho and put him out for 3 months and Jericho takes that time to get in shape and come back as the real Chris Jericho and not this fat piece of shit we've been treated to.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-13-2021, 12:57 AM
Am I wrong or is everything happening in the Inner Circle ( Sammy quitting ), leading up to the IC turning on Jericho? I hope it is. I hope they beat the shit out of Jericho and put him out for 3 months and Jericho takes that time to get in shape and come back as the real Chris Jericho and not this fat piece of shit we've been treated to.
It seems that way although the way they're setting things up, it could be both Sammy and Jericho getting the beat down. I want it to be Sammy because I think as a cocky, brash babyface chasing MJF around would be a fun program and really elevate him.
Mr. Nerfect
02-13-2021, 01:46 AM
Every man and their dog expects MJF to take the Inner Circle. It will probably happen in a very similar fashion to the Festival of Friendship. It just doesn’t mean anything.
Jordan
02-13-2021, 09:49 AM
I've been feeling like Santana and Ortiz could peel off and split with IC and side with Sammy. I think that would be an interesting story but I'm not sure if I'm getting those vibes right now. There may be many chapters yet to come in the dissolvement of the Inner Circle. I can't imagine Jericho going it alone in the world of AEW.
Evil Vito
02-13-2021, 11:25 AM
Yeah the MJF and Sammy stuff this week has me thinking they’re in cahoots to get Jericho ousted.
Then MJF and Sammy could be all “there is no leader in our version of the IC!” even though both of them very clearly are trying to be in charge.
Evil Vito
02-13-2021, 11:27 AM
But yeah I do see this eventually being a way to write Jericho off for a while, could see him taking a break after Double or Nothing in May.
He was meant to have last summer off to tour but the pandemic canceled everything, for better or worse live gigs are gonna start coming back this summer so I think Fozzy will be back on the road for a little while.
Mr. Nerfect
02-13-2021, 06:58 PM
I just hope Jericho doesn’t become the next wrestling tragedy.
Maki Itoh is my favorite AEW wrestler of all time!
I just hope Jericho doesn’t become the next wrestling tragedy.
I 100% agree with you on this. I was thinking about that a few days ago. I'm actually worried.
Mr. Nerfect
02-13-2021, 11:19 PM
I genuinely don’t mean it doom and gloom or to be an ass, but I’ve just got a weird feeling. Yeah, he seems to be having the time of his life, but that often masks deeper shit. And that physical decline he’s had with the schedule he keeps? That’s not good. And just because he’s having fun doesn’t mean his family is. It’s got to be potentially embarrassing to be Chris Jericho’s kids and see him sucking in his gut with women half his age, spreading Covid, claiming he could be in AC-DC, supporting Trump so vocally, and being mocked by people seeing him for the first time in years. I’m being serious. It’s a VERY public mid-life crisis. Sometimes the money you make doesn’t make up for that.
I’m worried that the guys in AEW are such fans of his that they won’t ask the questions. And guys with real addiction problems can get quite good at masking how well they’re operating. They can make it seem a part of their brilliance.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-14-2021, 12:36 AM
I'm gonna guess Jericho and MJF win the tag titles, because that's the most interesting angle for the belts and division, and eventually Jericho starts to lose his mister and trust and that's when MJF and the IC give him the boot, only for Sammy to return and clean house.
I'm gonna guess Jericho and MJF win the tag titles, because that's the most interesting angle for the belts and division, and eventually Jericho starts to lose his mister and trust and that's when MJF and the IC give him the boot, only for Sammy to return and clean house.
Nah
I think Sammy and MJF are in on it. The boot is coming a lot faster. The whole Sammy quitting thing is a sham and it's gonna end with everyone turning on Jericho.
Then hopefully Jericho leaves for 3 months and gets himself in proper shape.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-14-2021, 01:15 AM
Jericho taking a break is definitely needed.
Emperor Smeat
02-14-2021, 01:32 AM
Think its way more likely Jericho & MJF lose the tag title match than win the belts since this whole Inner Circle drama stuff is probably leading to the group disbanding instead of MJF taking over it.
Plus they don't really need the tag belts if the goal is to kick out Jericho. Them losing would speed up that process towards MJF becoming the new boss or the group splitting up.
Mr. Nerfect
02-14-2021, 06:59 AM
I don’t think it matters. We all know this is going towards MJF vs. Alcoholic Chris Jericho in some fashion. MJF will win and he’ll be exactly where he was was when he started. Only now he’s lost the “true heel” vibe he had before the awful singing segment.
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0jPL2b6/znsxxkkn7eh61.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
02-14-2021, 03:29 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0jPL2b6/znsxxkkn7eh61.jpg
That makes me hate the fucking group, lol.
Emperor Smeat
02-14-2021, 03:51 PM
Sammy Guevara is currently in the dog house in AEW regarding a recent an incident he caused backstage over their current creative plans for him.
AEW originally wanted him to go to Impact as part of his current Inner Circle departure storyline but he refused and caused a big enough scene that word of it reached Impact who told AEW they didn't want him showing up at their tapings place in Nashville.
That led to AEW pulling the plans they had for him afterwards and him getting backstage heat over the big incident he caused.
Sammy Guevara is taking a break from Daily's Place, but it doesn't look like he's in the IMPACT Zone any time soon.
On the most recent episode of AEW Dynamite, Sammy Guevara told Chris Jericho he was leaving the Inner Circle faction. After he walked away from the group, he would tell Alex Marvez that he needed a break from “this place.”
Now, a new report says Sammy Guevara has upset those in AEW after a reported creative dispute regarding a potential angle that would see him go over to IMPACT Wrestling.
According to a report from Slam Wrestling, Tony Khan is upset with Sammy Guevara for voicing his complaints about his potential storyline with IMPACT. Reportedly, Chris Jericho had the idea of Sammy Guevara going over to the other promotion after he walked out of the Inner Circle faction and an idea was formulated that Tony Khan agreed to so plans were made to shoot the angle. Fightful has not independently verified the stories regarding heat with Khan.
Sammy Guevara reportedly voiced his complaints about the creative direction of the angle and when IMPACT Wrestling received word of this, they contacted Tony Khan and Chris Jericho, leading to Jericho texting Sammy Guevara to return home after he had arrived in Nashville where IMPACT has been filming their programming since the beginning of the pandemic.
While the report does not state what the plan was or what Sammy had an issue with, it is said that Chris Jericho had to reach out to Don Callis about preventing Sammy Guevara from working the IMPACT tapings.
Reportedly, AEW management is concerned that Sammy Guevara may have negatively affected the working relationship the promotion has with IMPACT. Those that Fightful have spoken to on both sides indicated that it's nothing that can't be overcome.
Fightful had heard of an issue regarding an AEW wrestler and their IMPACT creative, but the person was not identified until Sunday morning.
Jordan
02-14-2021, 04:57 PM
It feels like it's been 20 years since someone refused to do what they were told. About time.
Evil Vito
02-14-2021, 05:33 PM
Sounds like he was going to do what he was told given that he arrived in Nashville for Impact tapings. But Impact didn't want to do the angle if it was someone salty about being there, and I don't blame them.
Emperor Smeat
02-14-2021, 05:53 PM
Sounds like he was going to do what he was told given that he arrived in Nashville for Impact tapings. But Impact didn't want to do the angle if it was someone salty about being there, and I don't blame them.
Yeah, I don't blame Impact at all for not wanting him showing up at their place.
Based on recent interviews from current and former Impact talent, the locker room there these days is very friendly and happy. All it takes is one grouchy person to start wrecking the cheerful mood over there.
Already seen it with WWE recently where it just took 1 bad incident for the mood of their main roster locker room to sour very quickly. They went from being very happy during the Rumble to becoming very angry post-fiscal report based on reports.
Evil Vito
02-14-2021, 05:59 PM
Without knowing his reasoning for not wanting to do the angle, the easy conclusion to jump to is that he feels like going to Impact is a downgrade. If so, not a great mindset to have considering the World champion has done an angle there.
Volare
02-14-2021, 06:25 PM
Super confused at all of this.
Maybe he realizes Jericho is a fat lazy piece of shit and he doesnt like Jericho trying to send him off to Impact to work angles for Twitch followers.
xrodmuc316
02-14-2021, 07:07 PM
I don't blame Sammy. If he wanted to go to Impact, he could have signed with Impact 2 years ago. Why should he have to if he doesn't want to, just because Kenny Omega is friends with Don Call is and Tony Khan wants to air stupid paid for by AEW ads?
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?
AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.
AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.
Jordan
02-14-2021, 07:51 PM
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?
AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.
AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.
I agree. BTW I read on Twitter than Bryan Alvarez said Okada is coming to AEW. In with NJPW and out with Impact please. Their last ppv was headlined by formee WWE Cruiserweight Champion Rich Swann vs former WWE Hardcore Champion and 50 year old Tommy Dreamer FFS.
Emperor Smeat
02-14-2021, 08:42 PM
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?
AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.
AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.
Whatever Sammy said must have included some really bad stuff to get the type of reaction that pissed off two companies.
Doubt AEW was going to have Sammy be a jobber or low tier wrestler during his time in Impact but whatever was Sammy's issue doesn't seem like it was something that could easily be fixed with a quick tweak of plans.
I wouldn't be surprised if AEW was also worried about this being a bad look on them with their current working relationship with NJPW.
Whatever Sammy said must have included some really bad stuff to get the type of reaction that pissed off two companies.
Doubt AEW was going to have Sammy be a jobber or low tier wrestler during his time in Impact but whatever was Sammy's issue doesn't seem like it was something that could easily be fixed with a quick tweak of plans.
I wouldn't be surprised if AEW was also worried about this being a bad look on them with their current working relationship with NJPW.
I'd be curious to the little details, and sure they'll come out eventually.
But I'm also looking from a corp/business standpoint. This whole AEW/Impact crossover in general has been weird to me. I really don't get the benefit here... I mean if AEW wanted too, they could lure away almost any of Impact's talent, and their currently broadcast platforms are MUCH bigger than Impact's. This is what REALLY escapes me.
I mean NJPW could be a reason, but imo a thin reason. This just feels like a giant bowing to an ant.
Emperor Smeat
02-14-2021, 09:56 PM
Biggest benefit AEW can get with their Impact deal is mostly from Impact's Women's division since that's more notable names and stars that could help out AEW's struggling division.
Plus Impact acting like a minor league system of sorts for them in terms of AEW sending some of their younger and lesser used talent to get them more ring work and experience. AEW's lack of a touring system and a Performance Center-like place really limits how much their talent can improve under current situations. Its why AEW has been more open than WWE when it comes to allowing talent to take outside bookings.
xrodmuc316
02-14-2021, 11:38 PM
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?
AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.
AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.
A wrestler not doing exactly what his boss wants, and then gets buried out of spite, who does that sound like? :rofl:
Damian Rey 2.0
02-15-2021, 01:52 AM
While I get why Sammy would be upset since Impact is obvs a much lower league, clearly the move was being done to continue to feature him and build up his return back to AEW while letting him do something interesting and getting fresh match ups. I highly doubt he would've been treated as anything other than a big dealin Impact. I wonder if he just shot himself in the foot and ruined a huge push.
Imagine not pushing Sammy Guevera because he hurt Impacts feelings. Aside from maybe MJF, Sammy might have to most your superstar potential of anyone on the roster.
Maybe AEW is trying to position themselves to buy Impact and all there library.
Mr. Nerfect
02-15-2021, 03:10 AM
AEW and TNA total messes. It’s probably a work. It doesn’t make sense for it to be, but that’d be the point.
Emperor Smeat
02-15-2021, 04:03 AM
Turns out Sammy's incident wasn't caused behind the scenes in AEW but in Impact instead.
Same for AEW finding out afterwards what was happening and not the other way around with Impact.
Sammy Guevara was slated to work this past week's Impact Wrestling TV tapings but was pulled from the tapings, SlamWrestling.net reported. PWInsider.com has confirmed with Impact sources that the story is accurate.
The original plan was Guevara to work a short storyline at the tapings that began this past Tuesday through Thursday playing off Guevara quitting the Inner Circle. Multiple sources indicate that AEW and Impact worked out the plans but that Guevara did not fly to Nashville the day before the tapings scheduled and rescheduled himself to arrive in Nashville just a few hours before the tapings would begin.
Impact sources also indicated that although everyone had agreed to the planned ideas, Guevara began texting Impact officials about alternative ideas and "not wanting to do what was agreed to." At that point, Impact officials canceled Guevara off the tapings. Slam's story states that Guevara has heat with AEW officials over the matter and that Chris Jericho informed him to fly back home after Guevara landed in Nashville on Tuesday's afternoon.
We are told that the majority of what had been planned for Guevara saw Decay's Black Taurus utilized in that role instead.
Impact sources reiterated there was no issue with AEW at all and the relations between the two sides are "golden."
Mr. Nerfect
02-15-2021, 04:10 AM
Cracks starting to form. Why is Chris Jericho handling this sort of stuff? Just a fucking shit-show.
Seanny One Ball
02-15-2021, 07:13 AM
A wrestler not doing exactly what his boss wants, and then gets buried out of spite, who does that sound like? :rofl:
lol
Jordan
02-15-2021, 08:46 AM
Tony Kahn been getting heat in the UK for His Fulham league. Apparently they have lost 12 in a row. Fans saying he's too occupied on his pro wrestling company, calling for a change. I don't follow football so I'm not really up on it. Seems worth noting though.
Jordan
02-15-2021, 08:47 AM
Cracks starting to form. Why is Chris Jericho handling this sort of stuff? Just a fucking shit-show.
It will be interesting to hear the shit talk that comes from the first wave of talent who doesn't get renewed.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-15-2021, 10:47 AM
"CrAcKs sTaRtInG tO fOrM" because Sammy had some ideas and Impact got mad? Lmao while Sammy should've just done what was planned, I highly doubt this'll do anything that would hurt his future or AEW.
screech
02-15-2021, 10:55 AM
Tony Kahn been getting heat in the UK for His Fulham league. Apparently they have lost 12 in a row. Fans saying he's too occupied on his pro wrestling company, calling for a change. I don't follow football so I'm not really up on it. Seems worth noting though.
I know he only tweets about the team when they win lol
screech
02-15-2021, 10:57 AM
"CrAcKs sTaRtInG tO fOrM" because Sammy had some ideas and Impact got mad? Lmao while Sammy should've just done what was planned, I highly doubt this'll do anything that would hurt his future or AEW.
Yes. Out of everything that could kill the company, Sammy being mad about an idea that another promotion had for him will be the beginning of the end. May as well shut down this and the ratings thread now.
drave
02-15-2021, 11:08 AM
#ShutItDown
/Drebinpost
Damian Rey 2.0
02-15-2021, 11:29 AM
Yes. Out of everything that could kill the company, Sammy being mad about an idea that another promotion had for him will be the beginning of the end. May as well shut down this and the ratings thread now.
That report read more like "Sammy didn't like the idea and gave alternative ideas and Impact said fuck it, nevermind." This is not a big deal lol.
screech
02-15-2021, 12:17 PM
That report read more like "Sammy didn't like the idea and gave alternative ideas and Impact said fuck it, nevermind." This is not a big deal lol.
Exactly. Does it make some people look bad? Sure, but it's not the end of the world lol
Jordan
02-15-2021, 01:02 PM
This just makes me like Sammy more.
I already loved Sammy and now we see he actually has a backbone... This is great!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 02:43 PM
Remember when the Dark Order first started becoming a cult in late 2019 and they had their JoinDarkOrder website with the mailing list?
Well they've implied several times on BTE over the last year that nobody has ever been checking the e-mails, including Hangman Page's application apparently being lost in the shuffle.
Today on BTE they showed Alan Angels struggling to reply to thousands of e-mails and now they've blasted this out to everybody on the mailing list:
The wait has finally paid off. Your application to join Dark Order has been reviewed.
Congratulations. You have been accepted!
On behalf of all members of Dark Order: Welcome. You have found your biggest supporters. Together, we can find new strength in numbers.
We are one.
PS. If this is Adam's email, please get back to me!
-Alan "V" Angels
Mr. Nerfect
02-15-2021, 03:23 PM
Tony Kahn been getting heat in the UK for His Fulham league. Apparently they have lost 12 in a row. Fans saying he's too occupied on his pro wrestling company, calling for a change. I don't follow football so I'm not really up on it. Seems worth noting though.
Tony is notoriously bad at running everything. Jacksonville players have lashed out at his mismanagement too. He’s considered a “clown” in football circles. That and the hilarious comments about him wanking dogs.
TK is only exalted by wrestling fans. And that’s just because he’s not Vince McMahon. In time it will become apparent how poorly he has managed AEW and the overall negative it has been for wrestling.
He’s a fucking idiot. He’s the sort of guy who studies really hard in school to get a B, people think he’s smart because they only see the end result, and then his Daddy buys companies for him to work in because no one else would hire him.
It will be interesting to hear the shit talk that comes from the first wave of talent who doesn't get renewed.
It’s going to be amazing. I hope we get an honest JR shoot when he leaves.
Remember when the Dark Order first started becoming a cult in late 2019 and they had their JoinDarkOrder website with the mailing list?
Well they've implied several times on BTE over the last year that nobody has ever been checking the e-mails, including Hangman Page's application apparently being lost in the shuffle.
Today on BTE they showed Alan Angels struggling to reply to thousands of e-mails and now they've blasted this out to everybody on the mailing list:
This is fucking horrible.
xrodmuc316
02-15-2021, 03:40 PM
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/02/jim-ross-says-piss-ant-aew-is-beating-wwe-nxt-soundly-every-week/
Ross mentioned a tweet he received saying his commentary from past Royal Rumbles had been taken out of a recent video package highlighting the match’s history. He said nobody should be surprised and it’s another reason why AEW is on WWE’s mind.
“That shouldn’t surprise you,” Ross said. “It tells me they are aware of AEW very prominently even though they would not want to admit it. Triple H called us early on a ‘piss ant’ organization or something like that. This piss ant organization is beating NXT and we beat them soundly last week.”
Yet another idiotic take from this stupid old man.
Something Triple H said as a joke to his friend 2 years ago, and it is still on JR's mind.
He thinks this makes AEW cool and edgy, but it is sad. Old man spends his entire time burying his former employer, but expects them to keep highlighting his commentary from 15 years ago?
FYI, I just heard is voice in a recap video WWE did. So he is just lying so he can complain and bring up something from 2 years that butthurt him so bad he STILL isn't over it.
Fuck Jim Ross.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-15-2021, 06:24 PM
Remember when the Dark Order first started becoming a cult in late 2019 and they had their JoinDarkOrder website with the mailing list?
Well they've implied several times on BTE over the last year that nobody has ever been checking the e-mails, including Hangman Page's application apparently being lost in the shuffle.
Today on BTE they showed Alan Angels struggling to reply to thousands of e-mails and now they've blasted this out to everybody on the mailing list:
Hahaha
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:02 PM
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Volare
02-15-2021, 07:06 PM
Mei vs Yuka opening match.
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:07 PM
OH NO Mei and Yuka wearing character specific gear, the horror!!!1!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:08 PM
Mei is the female Japanese Colt Cabana lmao.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:10 PM
Damn nice torque on the figure 4 headlock over the ropes.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:10 PM
Nice STF Roll as well. I want this Yuka back asap!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:11 PM
Magical Sugar Rabbits might be my new favorite tag team name
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:12 PM
Ok first complaint....obvious as it could be with the overdelayed 2 count.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:13 PM
Holy fuck at Mei's submission!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:14 PM
Excalibur did his research here, a lot of good info on their careers
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:14 PM
13K on YT currently....chat is all for Mei and Maki.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:16 PM
CATTLE MUTILATION?!?!?!?!?!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:16 PM
Always loved the Cattle Mutilation
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:17 PM
NICE springboard 450!!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:17 PM
YT Chat is pissed lol.
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:18 PM
Nice opener, glad these matches are getting time
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:18 PM
Already digging Veny's music.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:19 PM
EMI LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN AND NOT FREDDY MERCURY!!!! THANK GOD!!!!!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:20 PM
Props to Excalibur using Veny’s correct pronouns
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:21 PM
Emi looks so much better than I last saw her holy shit
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:21 PM
Ohhhhhhhh wow respect to Hana, so fucking cool!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:23 PM
What a bridge on that Romero Special...daaaaaaaaamn!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:23 PM
Hope this Emi comes back to AEW once she goes back to the US
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:24 PM
Emi being an evil woman and I love it!!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:25 PM
VENY!!! NICE MOONSAULT!!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:25 PM
Wooooooow Emi that turning backbreaker wtf was that?!?!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:26 PM
Nice running SSP by Veny!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:29 PM
Damn these matches are all out not just some 3 minute "showcase".
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:31 PM
Night height off the Shotgun.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:32 PM
Emi's Chops > Charlotte's.
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:33 PM
Hot damn, a sit out chokeslam
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:34 PM
TIGER DRIVER Hell yes! Gratz to Emi!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:34 PM
Lots of torque on that submission, looked painful
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:34 PM
lol Veny.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:35 PM
IT'S MAKI TIME!!!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:35 PM
Bah gawd Veny heel turn!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:36 PM
Damn she's got a voice and rythem!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:36 PM
best singing entrance since Taichi!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:38 PM
Ryo also with some good music damn!!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:40 PM
Hey that's Ref Abuse!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:43 PM
Kojima chops!
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:45 PM
17K now on YT demanding a Maki win lol.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:51 PM
Annnnd YT is on the riot path.
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 07:51 PM
Okay I don’t agree with that decision. Good match tho.
Volare
02-15-2021, 07:59 PM
Omg that pile driver!!
Volare
02-15-2021, 08:00 PM
Aja just murdering this girl!!
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 08:01 PM
Poor Rin
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 08:02 PM
Aja Kong can't really go like she used to, but man it's still brutal to watch some of her moves. That piledriver is still insane.
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 08:03 PM
That diving elbow’s gotta be so painful to take
Evil Vito
02-15-2021, 08:04 PM
Really great little show there, enjoyed it a lot
Volare
02-15-2021, 08:23 PM
Same here. Gonna be interesting who gets the chance from Japan, since 3/4 are already associated with AEW.
Volare
02-16-2021, 01:10 PM
Oh yeah, all you Anna fans in here...got new competition....
@ 13:50
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Evil Vito
02-16-2021, 01:20 PM
Yeah Tesha Price has been on Dark a lot, she's got it going on too.
Tesha Price is ugly as fuck.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marko Stunt has a good voice<br>(from Sammy's vlog <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a>) <a href="https://t.co/C5Wipylbbt">pic.twitter.com/C5Wipylbbt</a></p>— Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1361820534070124544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
xrodmuc316
02-16-2021, 07:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marko Stunt has a good voice<br>(from Sammy's vlog <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a>) <a href="https://t.co/C5Wipylbbt">pic.twitter.com/C5Wipylbbt</a></p>— Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1361820534070124544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Bumpity Bump Bump Bumpity Bump Bump
Gotta keep the Elite posts up so we can say later WWE doesn't get as many posts :rofl:
That Dark Destroyer looked brutal.
Kingston doing the " He pulled my hair " bit, is fucking hilarious.
Emperor Smeat
02-17-2021, 12:14 AM
Private Party recently teased the idea of them potentially showing up in Ring of Honor in the near future after their run in Impact.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Give us another chance. How about we beat <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLethalJay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheLethalJay</a> & <a href="https://twitter.com/TheJonGresham?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheJonGresham</a></p>— Private Party (@Marq_Quen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marq_Quen/status/1361404001535819778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Vastardikai
02-17-2021, 12:23 AM
I'm finally watching the Japanese bracket. I get this feeling I'm gonna end up on some kind of list as a result. I'm gonna do some shit thoughts. In essence, you won't get actual names, I will use first impression names for most of them. What's a first impression name? "Steampunk Jimmy Garvin" is a first impression name for Cameron Grimes. Basically, what I call them based on my first impression of them.
*Hippie Yuna vs. Happy Fairy Lady was pretty good. I have no complaints. Happy Fairy Lady's skirt wouldn't stay down, but that kind of thing happens, I guess. Hippie Yuna won with a 450 off the middle of the top rope.
*Emi vs Veni was really good. I have watched some Ice Ribbon (maybe I was already on that list), so I know of Emi there. Veni could be AEW Women's Champion. Take that for what it's worth. But they are very impressive. A really good match, like I said. Emi with the win, as she is the veteran.
*Maki Ito vs. the Daughter of Okada and Aja Kong. Daughter looks like she could whip at least Marko Stunt in a fight. Maki had a decent little choreographed entrance. She'll get an AEW contract for three reasons: 1. she has the look Omega likes. 2. she pissed off Cornette. 3. Her knowledge of English rivals my knowledge of French. That match went too long and it was stupid. Daughter should have just wrecked her in 3 minutes. Ito doesn't have enough size to her to make her holds look believable. And I am horrified by the knowledge that, if this shit was live and not pre-taped, Ito would have went over.
*Aja Kong vs Thic Generic Joshi. Aja is Aja. I really can't say much else. Her opponent looks like she could be a full grown women's wrestler, but her face and her gear ages her down. Aja looks great, but she's been around forever. This match looked a bit like Heath Slater vs Vader, if they actually gave Heath some offense. Kong won, as she should have. TGJ was decent, but probably shouldn't have kicked out of the Backdrop Driver. That would have been a better finish than the Elbow.
Vastardikai
02-17-2021, 11:54 PM
Something I noticed but forgot to comment on.
During Aja Kong's entrance, you can see Shida in the background. After the match, Kong points at her and does the title belt gesture. NONE OF THIS was mentioned by Excaliber. No reference to Shida being there at all. You would think that Excaliber could have taken a few seconds away from jerking off over Maki Ito or calling a Flying Reacharound to say "AEW Women's Champion Hiraku Shida is in attendance, scouting who could possibly be her next opponent." Maybe during a lull in the action, cut away briefly to Shida watching the action in the ring. But nope.
Evil Vito
02-18-2021, 12:09 AM
Good point. I thought Excalibur called a great show from an in-ring standpoint but I didn't even notice Shida was there doing Japanese commentary which they also released on their YouTube channel. Not mentioning her there is a miss on his part.
Interesting that they'd fly her back to Japan just for that given she has to quarantine 2 weeks on each end of the trip (well, on the Japan side at least...lol at the US ever forcing a mandatory quarantine). I'm thinking she may have worked a bonus match or two over there while she was at it.
Emperor Smeat
02-18-2021, 12:42 AM
The lack of Shida recognition by Excaliur was a bit odd since AEW did mention beforehand she would be there to help call the action for Japanese commentary.
Either he was told to only call the action or someone goofed up with the production work and she wasn't supposed to be seen which would make the Aja Kong post-match stuff even odder if so.
Good point. I thought Excalibur called a great show from an in-ring standpoint but I didn't even notice Shida was there doing Japanese commentary which they also released on their YouTube channel. Not mentioning her there is a miss on his part.
Interesting that they'd fly her back to Japan just for that given she has to quarantine 2 weeks on each end of the trip (well, on the Japan side at least...lol at the US ever forcing a mandatory quarantine). I'm thinking she may have worked a bonus match or two over there while she was at it.
She did appear in a ChocoPro event recently in Japan albeit in a non-wrestling role. She was the guest ref in a tag match that featured Veny, Emi Sakura, and Mei Suruga from AEW's Women's tournament.
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Jordan
02-18-2021, 11:24 AM
Cutler is the jobber with the "coolest" gear. I guess it's cool, I think it looks ridiculous but whatever, I guess it fits within the realm of superhero costumes that are in trend right now.
Jordan
02-18-2021, 11:36 AM
I'm confused about the exploding death match. Partly excited. Partly worried that this is a sign AEW is going off the rails. I just don't know how to feel about it. There certainly are some signs that AEW need a traditional booker in place that works under Tony with his influence but does the majority of the work. It's just tough to say right now. The card for Revolution reads like a TNA ppv with all the gimmicks. Maybe that's a good hook for a ppv right now I'm just not sure. Also I'm not enthralled by Kenny as champ. His reign has been my least favorite era for AEW thus far. But still there is a curious part of me marking out for the Barbed Wire Exploding Death Match. I loved their lights out match.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-18-2021, 12:00 PM
Kenny's character work with Callis has been super entertaining. He's only had one title match so far that was a fucking banger, so no complaints from me.
I like the Revolution card so far. We're getting a pay off to a nearly year long feudbetween Darby and Taz, the face of the revolution match sounds fun and hopefully pushes Scorpio Sky into a weekly tv role again.
Moxley and Omega match is a little silly, but a brutal match between the two to likely end their trilogy also makes sense.
I do wish Santana and Ortiz beat the Bucks. Could've put the titles on them, havethem defend at Revolution against MJF acc Jericho and turn MJF on Jericho that night.
Shida has had a good run of matches but no interesting story. I'm hoping Baker wins out in the tournament and gets the title. But a tourney to determine a number 1 contender after a Shida has beaten pretty much everyone is fine.
The Hardy Paige match is the only one that seems random. But I like Paige and he's still working the Dark Order storyline, so he's at least being featured.
Moxley no selling Eddie Kingstons finisher and then the commentators saying it was because of how tough his beard is, is enough for me to be totally done with Moxley. I want someone to fuck him up for real in the ring the next time he no sells like that.
Bad News Gertner
02-18-2021, 01:37 PM
He's ALWAYS been like that
Damian Rey 2.0
02-18-2021, 03:02 PM
I didn't know that was Kingston's finisher either, tbh. I enjoy Moxley in the ring. The comment was dumb tho. Didn't even catch it.
Jordan
02-18-2021, 03:04 PM
I do wish Santana and Ortiz beat the Bucks. Could've put the titles on them, havethem defend at Revolution against MJF acc Jericho and turn MJF on Jericho that night.
That would have made all the sense in the world. They could've had The Bucks then challenge Good Brothers for the Impact titles on Revolution as well and win. Then Bucks could be on Impact more and help out there.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-18-2021, 03:15 PM
That would have made all the sense in the world. They could've had The Bucks then challenge Good Brothers for the Impact titles on Revolution as well and win. Then Bucks could be on Impact more and help out there.
I know they're building towards and eventual falling out between Omega and the Bucks, and the Good Brothers will eventually turn on them along side Omega. But having them screw the Bucks last night makes two stories infinitely more interesting.
I was dreaming of an angle where Santana and Ortiz defend the belts against Jericho and MJF. Jericho starts out the match and gets isolated and beat on for a while, and when he tags MJF, all 3 pull a Flair and start beating the piss outta Jericho, heaving his fat ass out of the inner circle off tv until the summer for a babyface return.
Alas, my dreams have been dashed for now.
Evil Vito
02-18-2021, 03:43 PM
I know they're building towards and eventual falling out between Omega and the Bucks, and the Good Brothers will eventually turn on them along side Omega. But having them screw the Bucks last night makes two stories infinitely more interesting.
I was dreaming of an angle where Santana and Ortiz defend the belts against Jericho and MJF. Jericho starts out the match and gets isolated and beat on for a while, and when he tags MJF, all 3 pull a Flair and start beating the piss outta Jericho, heaving his fat ass out of the inner circle off tv until the summer for a babyface return.
Alas, my dreams have been dashed for now.
I totally would've loved to see that, and I actually think something like that might be how it eventually goes down anyway, but yeah, could've been a big moment for Revolution.
Guessing they want to do Bucks vs. Good Brothers title for title sometime after Revolution which is why they couldn't put the belts on LAX for now but an LAX title run interests me far more.
Evil Vito
02-18-2021, 04:12 PM
While I appreciate AEW not blowing through their storylines and turning a long-term angle into 2 weeks, I also think they go too far in the other direction sometimes.
They usually get where they need to go but they sometimes the angle's cooled off by the time they finally get there. Gotta find the happy medium.
Emperor Smeat
02-18-2021, 05:48 PM
While I appreciate AEW not blowing through their storylines and turning a long-term angle into 2 weeks, I also think they go too far in the other direction sometimes.
They usually get where they need to go but they sometimes the angle's cooled off by the time they finally get there. Gotta find the happy medium.
Yeah that's been a bit of a problem with some of their long storylines, especially during this coronavirus pandemic era.
Like with the current Sting/Darby vs. Team Taz and Cody vs. Shaq/Jade storylines, they started those feuds way too early for the material they had planned out.
Then you have other notable stuff that got stretched a bit too long like the Omega & Hangman breakup angle because AEW wanted to be able to do it when things returned to normal with the pandemic.
I think they need to hire a continuity person who can also help w/ creative to keep things on track, make sure the narratives are always moving along
Damian Rey 2.0
02-18-2021, 06:48 PM
The Darby Taz stuff has been fine to me. Darby has ran thru both Starks and Cage, but they keep coming, so now it's a street fight to finally blow off the feud. The only weird part is Cody randomly exiting the story.
Emperor Smeat
02-18-2021, 07:02 PM
I think they need to hire a continuity person who can also help w/ creative to keep things on track, make sure the narratives are always moving along
Yeah that would help out a lot.
Even hiring just a writer to help out would fix some of their creative issues for storylines and lessen the weekly workload.
Based on the stories of how AEW's creative process works, its pretty much like early era NXT but without the advantage of a monthly taping schedule, longer weekly shows, and a much larger roster to deal with. NXT's solution to those issues since the move to USA Network has been to just keep bloating their creative team which hasn't been effective in fixing the sluggish interest in their brand.
Damian Rey 2.0
02-18-2021, 07:06 PM
Is it just Khan doing the creative with input from the wrestlers involved?
erickman
02-18-2021, 07:15 PM
Is it just Khan doing the creative with input from the wrestlers involved?
i bet don is giving him alot too, i would like to see how much say in aew don has.
Emperor Smeat
02-18-2021, 07:37 PM
Is it just Khan doing the creative with input from the wrestlers involved?
Yeah its been mostly him writing the scripts and putting together the shows with input from wrestlers and others.
QT Marshall and a couple others help with the writing but not all the time. Think Marshall mostly helps whenever he's not busy with his wrestling school or other stuff.
FTR had an interview recently where they broke down the differences between Vince and Tony Khan's mentality when it comes to writing shows and Khan is a lot more receptive to ideas and help from talent for his shows.
Link to the interview: https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/ftr-praise-creative-process-aew-call-tony-khan-s-appreciation-talent-input-gratifying
Damian Rey 2.0
02-18-2021, 07:43 PM
Well color me impressed as I've mostly enjoyed the direction of most stories. But yeah. Maybe bring a control guy just to help give ideas and keep things on track.
Jordan
02-18-2021, 08:24 PM
They really gotta do something about JR.
Vastardikai
02-18-2021, 11:13 PM
The lack of Shida recognition by Excaliur was a bit odd since AEW did mention beforehand she would be there to help call the action for Japanese commentary.
Either he was told to only call the action or someone goofed up with the production work and she wasn't supposed to be seen which would make the Aja Kong post-match stuff even odder if so.
Which is actually kind of worse, if you think about it. And I'm not even as invested as hating these folks as other people here.
Mr. Nerfect
02-19-2021, 03:11 AM
Lol, people finally coming around on AEW.
Jordan
02-19-2021, 10:14 AM
I still think it's much more enjoyable than WWE which for me is completely unwatchable and self degrading to spend time on. But AEW isn't perfect, there does seem to be some issues that definitely start at the top. From the beginning there were many questionable hires and pushes. But when it's hot it's hot. Thinking back, I can't name a perfect product. There have been times for AEW that were close to it for me though. I think one of my biggest issues isn't AEW exclusive but an issue pervading contemporary Wrestling as a whole. The PWG influence. That style while awesome at times kind of rui s everything about working a classic match. It's the equivalent of dropping nuclear bombs constantly. The over use of strikes that should end a match or knock someone out, the poor use of those strikes that never connect at all. The logicless high flying tope's and the like that offensively make no sense at all. The over use of combo spots that leave no room for selling or storytelling beyond "GASP HOLY SHIT". It's amazing to go back to older shows and watch how a wrestler used to work holds and strikes in a way that had actual results.
#1-norm-fan
02-19-2021, 10:47 AM
They’ve all lost the plot. The only difference between WWE and AEW is that WWE has the name recognition and a deep back catalogue to make money off of for years to come.
Evil Vito
02-19-2021, 10:48 AM
I still think it's much more enjoyable than WWE which for me is completely unwatchable and self degrading to spend time on. But AEW isn't perfect, there does seem to be some issues that definitely start at the top. From the beginning there were many questionable hires and pushes. But when it's hot it's hot. Thinking back, I can't name a perfect product. There have been times for AEW that were close to it for me though.
Agreed on all of this. For me, there have been meh episodes of Dynamite but I don't ever feel like it was a total time waste. And instances of multiple meh episodes in a row has been few and far between. The worst period for me was probably those 5-6 weeks they rushed to film in one weekend in QT Marshall's gym which started OK but got old fast, but in fairness it was a skeleton crew as that was right as COVID popped off in the US and basically everyone was home.
But the very real prospect of a great show is enough to keep me going, and even the so-so episodes usually have a banger of a match somewhere in there. I find way much more enjoyable about the product than not.
But nah not being 100% sold on everything AEW does = "cracks showing, people coming around on AEW" :roll:
Evil Vito
02-19-2021, 10:50 AM
I do miss proper crowds though. One year ago today was probably the best episode of Dynamite to date (well, except the Brodie tribute ep but that was for sentimental reasons). Great stuff all around and the crowd was red hot.
http://www.profightdb.com/cards/aew/dynamite-20-31627.html
xrodmuc316
02-19-2021, 05:09 PM
They’ve all lost the plot. The only difference between WWE and AEW is that WWE has the name recognition and a deep back catalogue to make money off of for years to come.
WWE has plots, but they are usually abandoned for no rhyme or reason, based on one man's whims.
AEW has no plot, they have spots. They hold ropes for their opponents to balance, they stand around for long periods of time waiting for the next flip, and they fall down for no reason when it's time for somebody else's spot.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Khan Promoted By The Jacksonville Jaguars <a href="https://t.co/EWxoWKvxkC">https://t.co/EWxoWKvxkC</a></p>— WrestlingINC.com (@WrestlingInc) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc/status/1362863917475655684?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Emperor Smeat
02-19-2021, 07:17 PM
More details regarding the creative issues between AEW/Impact and Sammy Guevara.
Following his on-screen departure from the Inner Circle on Dynamite, the AEW standout arrived in Nashville, TN, to work the February 9-11 Impact tapings to begin an angle. However, that didn't happen due to a disgreement about what he would be doing.
What happened regarding that situation is still unclear depending on what side is telling the story. Bryan Alvarez discussed the situation on Friday's Wrestling Observer Live with some information from people close to Guevara.
One story Meltzer could not confirm in the newsletter was that Guevara was set to be part of a six man tag on this Tuesday's show where the winning team would move on to a three way match for an X-Division title shot. That match would have paired him with Ace Austin and Chris Bey against Willie Mack, Josh Alexander and Trey Miguel. Austin and Bey will team with Black Taurus instead.
Alvarez's sources said they indeed wanted Guevara to be in tag matches. However, Guevara didn't think that made sense because one of the points of leaving The Inner Circle was to go out on his own.
According to Meltzer's sources, Guevara reportedly suggested winning the X-Division title before returning to AEW with it. He would never lose the title and it would then be stripped at some point and put up for grabs in a tournament.
Alvarez's sources said Guevara did have an idea about winning the title, but it didn't involve not losing the title or taking it to AEW. At that point, Impact wasn't wasn't going for any of his ideas and it was a "their way or the highway" type situation.
Meltzer reported that Guevara was going to win three matches at the tapings, adding that Chris Jericho and Don Callis came up with the initial angle and whatever happened made them look bad. Guevara was only scheduled for that set of tapings.
Alvarez's sources said he was never going to win three matches. The idea was that he would lose some matches and get beaten down, eventually winning and then get beaten down again.
Meltzer said, "Impact was really mad about AEW sending talent over, putting plans in place and then the talent wouldn’t do what was planned. Everything appears to be smoothed over now, but there are those in Impact who said that the company was not happy at first with how it went down and could have impacted relationships."
Alvarez's sources said Guevara called someone in AEW (he presumed Tony Khan) to discuss what was happening and expressed his opinions about the situation.
If the stuff about Sammy wanted to win the X-Division belt is true, then I can see why Impact was upset since that would have messed up their current plans for the belt and possibly the direction of Trey Miguel's push.
erickman
02-19-2021, 07:53 PM
yeah impact have better x div wrestlers then sammy, now if he won the belt then trey took it from him in the end, that would work.
Emperor Smeat
02-19-2021, 11:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just talked to Mr. Funk & he’s doing okay. He just wanted to wish <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> & <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KennyOmegamanX</a> the best of luck in their exploding barbed wire match. He says the match is a good way for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aew</a> to wake up Vince with a good kick in his ass. He wants you to know he’s pulling for you!</p>— Terry Funk (@TheDirtyFunker) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDirtyFunker/status/1362843813564325889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
weather vane
02-20-2021, 02:08 AM
Why doesn’t Sting dye his fucking hair? How hard is that?
Volare
02-20-2021, 02:39 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just talked to Mr. Funk & he’s doing okay. He just wanted to wish <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> & <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KennyOmegamanX</a> the best of luck in their exploding barbed wire match. He says the match is a good way for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aew</a> to wake up Vince with a good kick in his ass. He wants you to know he’s pulling for you!</p>— Terry Funk (@TheDirtyFunker) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDirtyFunker/status/1362843813564325889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Fuck yes!
Mr. Nerfect
02-20-2021, 06:16 PM
They’ve all lost the plot. The only difference between WWE and AEW is that WWE has the name recognition and a deep back catalogue to make money off of for years to come.
Yes. The products are very similar. The psychology in AEW is more bush league and their approach to production is more 2005 WWE than 2020 WWE, but they’re very similar.
Volare
02-20-2021, 09:48 PM
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owenbunny
02-21-2021, 10:09 PM
AEW should recreate the Ambrose/Jericho feud
https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_xl/public/2016/05/20160512_RawPreview_ChrisDean--aef9fcd54a03a8f6f8308ded2c4e94c7.jpg
Evil Vito
02-22-2021, 03:02 PM
Anna Jay out for 6-12 months following shoulder surgery. Damn that blows.
Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2021, 03:18 PM
AEW should recreate the Ambrose/Jericho feud
https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_xl/public/2016/05/20160512_RawPreview_ChrisDean--aef9fcd54a03a8f6f8308ded2c4e94c7.jpg
They did. Moxley got an eye-patch and was faking, because it’s good strategy to pretend to be blind. Instead of a pot plant they got one of Shad’s cars. Mox did a zany “I’m going to be a bad guy...just kidding” promo that didn’t make any sense.
Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2021, 03:19 PM
Am I the only one who doesn’t rate Anna Jay. She’s not a bad looking girl by any stretch, but her look is pretty common over here. If you go onto Tinder here, 2/3 girls look like Anna Jay. Sucks she got her though. Wonder if it’s because she’s inexperienced as shit?
fundiddle
02-22-2021, 03:46 PM
Am I the only one who doesn’t rate Anna Jay. She’s not a bad looking girl by any stretch, but her look is pretty common over here. If you go onto Tinder here, 2/3 girls look like Anna Jay. Sucks she got her though. Wonder if it’s because she’s inexperienced as shit?
i bet you get all kinds of bot pussy
xrodmuc316
02-22-2021, 04:54 PM
They did. Moxley got an eye-patch and was faking, because it’s good strategy to pretend to be blind. Instead of a pot plant they got one of Shad’s cars. Mox did a zany “I’m going to be a bad guy...just kidding” promo that didn’t make any sense.
A.K.A. Goofy Shit! :rofl:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BreakingNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BreakingNews</a><br>Anna Jay was injured training & can’t compete tonight. Anna requires shoulder surgery & is expected to miss 6-12 months. She’s replaced in the Tournament by alternate <a href="https://twitter.com/Madi_Wrenkowski?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Madi_Wrenkowski</a>, a student & protege of <a href="https://twitter.com/thunderrosa22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thunderrosa22</a>. Watch tonight 7/6c <a href="https://t.co/lBSV4sbfpB">https://t.co/lBSV4sbfpB</a> <a href="https://t.co/QESqn6HWDk">pic.twitter.com/QESqn6HWDk</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1363938867171229701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Sting Fan
02-22-2021, 06:37 PM
I do miss proper crowds though. One year ago today was probably the best episode of Dynamite to date (well, except the Brodie tribute ep but that was for sentimental reasons). Great stuff all around and the crowd was red hot.
http://www.profightdb.com/cards/aew/dynamite-20-31627.html
I honestly think this is a bigger factor than maybe were all giving it credit for. I was watching some old PPVs a week or so ago and having the crowd noise was extremely jarring but in a good way.
A hot crowd covers sooo many sins in my mind, this goes for both companies.
Volare
02-22-2021, 06:43 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BreakingNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BreakingNews</a><br>Anna Jay was injured training & can’t compete tonight. Anna requires shoulder surgery & is expected to miss 6-12 months. She’s replaced in the Tournament by alternate <a href="https://twitter.com/Madi_Wrenkowski?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Madi_Wrenkowski</a>, a student & protege of <a href="https://twitter.com/thunderrosa22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thunderrosa22</a>. Watch tonight 7/6c <a href="https://t.co/lBSV4sbfpB">https://t.co/lBSV4sbfpB</a> <a href="https://t.co/QESqn6HWDk">pic.twitter.com/QESqn6HWDk</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1363938867171229701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!
I dont even want to watch AEW anymore.
Well there's still John Silver.
Evil Vito
02-22-2021, 07:05 PM
Tourney time. Mmmmm Tay Conti
Evil Vito
02-22-2021, 07:12 PM
Tay’s ass is in full force tonight. Perfect gear for her.
Emperor Smeat
02-22-2021, 07:25 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BreakingNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BreakingNews</a><br>Anna Jay was injured training & can’t compete tonight. Anna requires shoulder surgery & is expected to miss 6-12 months. She’s replaced in the Tournament by alternate <a href="https://twitter.com/Madi_Wrenkowski?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Madi_Wrenkowski</a>, a student & protege of <a href="https://twitter.com/thunderrosa22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thunderrosa22</a>. Watch tonight 7/6c <a href="https://t.co/lBSV4sbfpB">https://t.co/lBSV4sbfpB</a> <a href="https://t.co/QESqn6HWDk">pic.twitter.com/QESqn6HWDk</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1363938867171229701?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The first sound Anna Jay will hear when she wakes up from surgery. <a href="https://twitter.com/annajay___?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@annajay___</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SilverNumber1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SilverNumber1</a> <a href="https://t.co/iKKa9dRxlV">pic.twitter.com/iKKa9dRxlV</a></p>— Kyle L. Villarama (@KyleLVillarama) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleLVillarama/status/1363947751302594562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The first sound Anna Jay will hear when she wakes up from surgery. <a href="https://twitter.com/annajay___?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@annajay___</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SilverNumber1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SilverNumber1</a> <a href="https://t.co/iKKa9dRxlV">pic.twitter.com/iKKa9dRxlV</a></p>— Kyle L. Villarama (@KyleLVillarama) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleLVillarama/status/1363947751302594562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
rofl
Evil Vito
02-22-2021, 07:36 PM
That Yuka vs Emi match slapped hard
I expect Ryo vs Aja to slap hard for real
Emperor Smeat
02-25-2021, 05:56 PM
For those interested, the next episode of AEW's 2.Show is airing at 7PM EST today.
Episode #2 premieres Thursday, February 25th at 7PM ET/4PM PT right here on the AEW Games YouTube Channel!
Host Kenny Omega & Special Guest Brandon Cutler have some awesome AEW Games development updates to share including a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT!
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Triple A
02-26-2021, 01:45 PM
lol damn, watching one of the Exploding Barbed Wire Death Matches for the first time... this match rules... Terry Funk is great
Can't embed the video because it's age restricted
Atsushi Onita vs. Terry Funk Exploding No Rope Barbed Wire Exploding Ring Time Bomb Death Match
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drave
02-26-2021, 03:00 PM
Foley and Funk had a good one too. Long story about it I remember reading, in Have a Nice Day
erickman
02-26-2021, 03:10 PM
Foley and Funk had a good one too. Long story about it I remember reading, in Have a Nice Day
saw that one on you tube foley talks about the match during it.
#1-norm-fan
02-26-2021, 04:46 PM
Years ago I bought a copy of the Deathmatch tournament Foley won in Japan on Ebay. Crazy stuff. It was recorded over a Godzilla movie.
Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2021, 05:07 PM
Bush league. Fuck this mutant shit.
Emperor Smeat
02-26-2021, 05:11 PM
Years ago I bought a copy of the Deathmatch tournament Foley won in Japan on Ebay. Crazy stuff. It was recorded over a Godzilla movie.
If it was Godzilla 1999 then I don't blame the person since that's the worst Godzilla film I've ever seen.
Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2021, 08:41 PM
I’ve seen a couple of Girl on Cinema’s AEW reviews. They’re pretty spot-on.
Jordan
02-28-2021, 01:53 PM
Just gonna predict that Shaq wrestling on Dynamite won't be a big ratings hit. I don't think anyone cares. I also predict that Paul Wight will get involved and end up in match with him at the ppv.
Volare
02-28-2021, 05:54 PM
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Emperor Smeat
02-28-2021, 07:29 PM
Bleacher Report ended up bungling the airing of tonight's taped Women's tournament special so AEW put the whole show up on Youtube for those who are having problems with BR's stream.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m sorry people had issues <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BleacherReport</a>’s international stream. I was promised multiple times by our partner that the Eliminator matches would stream in real time for free for all international fans. Since that’s not the case, I’ve just put the matches up for free on YouTube.</p>— Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1366180403413934082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Emperor Smeat
02-28-2021, 08:08 PM
Women's Tournament special was very good overall.
Japan Final winner:
Ryo Mizunami
US Finals matchup tomorrow:
Nyla Rose vs. Thunder Rosa
Japan vs. US Finals has neither person I expected beforehand going into that match nor winning it all.
Damian Rey 2.0
03-01-2021, 01:26 AM
Women's Tournament special was very good overall.
Japan Final winner:
Ryo Mizunami
US Finals matchup tomorrow:
Nyla Rose vs. Thunder Rosa
Japan vs. US Finals has neither person I expected beforehand going into that match nor winning it all.
Thunder Rosa has to win this, right? I love Shida, but Rosa is far more marketable. Can't imagine they'd have her put Shida over again
Emperor Smeat
03-01-2021, 01:51 AM
Thunder Rosa has to win this, right? I love Shida, but Rosa is far more marketable. Can't imagine they'd have her put Shida over again
I'd be surprised if she did since she's still under contract with NWA and they are resuming tapings next month.
She has been open about being interested in signing an actual contract with AEW and not one of those per date type tier deals she's currently on. Same for her husband hoping that happens on social media recently.
Supreme Olajuwon
03-01-2021, 09:14 PM
Oh hey they had Nyla Rose who is shit beat Thunder Rosa, who is the best women’s wrestler in the company.
AEW sucks bro
Damian Rey 2.0
03-01-2021, 09:19 PM
Yeah I don't get that decision at all. Shida already beat Rose. Rose also hasn't done jack shit since losing the belt. What a waste. They should've just pushed Baker. I don't get why they're not going all in on her. She just beat Thunder Rosa.
Emperor Smeat
03-01-2021, 09:39 PM
If I had to guess, AEW probably going to give Nyla a proper reign this time since her first reign got messed up badly due to the coronavirus pandemic. Do agree that they should have built her up a lot better if that is going to be the case.
The other option would have been to just let Nyla keep the belt once they were able to resume running regularly post-Georgia tapings but they decided to not delay their plans for a Shida title reign. Sort of like what happened with Naito's title reign and EVIL last year in NJPW.
Evil Vito
03-01-2021, 10:16 PM
Yeah they pretty much fucked up this final. Everyone knows Thunder Rosa is signing with AEW as soon as she can, just give her the spot.
Don’t want to see Rose vs Shida again.
Evil Vito
03-01-2021, 10:54 PM
Women’s division easily the most disappointing part of AEW. It’s the only aspect of the company I have problems with really.
Loads of talented women but the booking of the division is so scatterbrained.
Damian Rey 2.0
03-01-2021, 10:54 PM
Yeah they pretty much fucked up this final. Everyone knows Thunder Rosa is signing with AEW as soon as she can, just give her the spot.
Don’t want to see Rose vs Shida again.
If not Rosa, then definitely Baker. She's their hottest act in the women's division. And building up Rosa to chase after her is the next sensible direction.
Emperor Smeat
03-01-2021, 11:15 PM
Women’s division easily the most disappointing part of AEW. It’s the only aspect of the company I have problems with really.
Loads of talented women but the booking of the division is so scatterbrained.
Yeah there is almost no real long term direction with the division. Its had it moments here and there of showing signs of potential greatness but AEW's made the road to getting to it being consistently good way harder than it should be.
All it takes is one injury or for something to go wrong for whatever plans they have to get quickly derailed.
Thunder Rosa getting the title was always going to be a long shot since she's not actually signed to the company and her NWA stuff takes precedence. MJF was in a similar situation when he was under contract with MLW where AEW held off on any real big pushes for him until after his MLW deal expired so his AEW deal would take precedence instead.
Damian Rey 2.0
03-02-2021, 12:48 AM
See, the stuff with holding off on Thunder Rosa is fine. But why they pushing Baker to the moon? They made a big dealof her signing and tried to push her hard as face, she made an awesome heel turn and ran with it and her in ring work has only been getting better. Just give her the belt and built the division around her like they seemingly planned.
Emperor Smeat
03-02-2021, 01:12 AM
No clue besides them seemingly now holding back on giving her the belt until later.
Had she not gotten hurt last year, she was on track to take the belt from Shida but whatever plans they had for her and the division went up in smoke afterwards. Wasn't until very recently that AEW felt comfortable enough with her recovery and the easing of her back into ring shape.
Didn't help that around the same time she got hurt, they also lost Kris Statlander to injury who was in line for a big push and be involved in a potential major feud with Baker for the latter half of the year.
Mr. Nerfect
03-02-2021, 02:57 AM
There’s no vision for anything in this company. Look at how they booked Omega before he became champ. Everyone seems to think Adam Page is the next guy. Look at how they are booking him now.
Volare
03-02-2021, 07:30 AM
Anna Jay is injured so screw it all.
Volare
03-02-2021, 02:07 PM
The next greatest YouTube sensation. John fucking Silver.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX3ZozYncuyIJxqKgfJWXqQ
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just had a long talk with a good friend & I’m going to make a significant change to one of the matches for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> tomorrow night Live on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a>! An announcement will be coming soon. Thank you very much to you great fans who support <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> & all pro wrestling & wrestlers!</p>— Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1366828935959482368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Volare
03-02-2021, 02:52 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just had a long talk with a good friend & I’m going to make a significant change to one of the matches for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> tomorrow night Live on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a>! An announcement will be coming soon. Thank you very much to you great fans who support <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> & all pro wrestling & wrestlers!</p>— Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1366828935959482368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Is this Cody/Paul Wight? Cause, I don't know what else it could be.
Jordan
03-02-2021, 05:20 PM
I bet they will have Paul Wight referee.
xrodmuc316
03-02-2021, 05:39 PM
be involved in a potential major feud with Baker for the latter half of the year.
Alien vs Dentist, that's what embodies a major fued these days???? :rofl:
"That'll put butts in seats, humph" ~ Tony Schiavone
Verbose Minch
03-03-2021, 12:30 AM
Alien vs Dentist, that's what embodies a major fued these days???? :rofl:
"That'll put butts in seats, humph" ~ Tony Schiavone
Very timely use of that quote, given NXT just bailed on the Wednesday timeslot after getting it's butthole caved in 99% of the time lol
Volare
03-03-2021, 01:26 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Mr. Nerfect
03-03-2021, 01:58 AM
Very timely use of that quote, given NXT just bailed on the Wednesday timeslot after getting it's butthole caved in 99% of the time lol
These are rumors as of now. Probably more to do with things like hockey than anything AEW did or didn’t do. Show barely scrapes past most weeks. It’ll still struggle without opposition if that comes to fruition.
Verbose Minch
03-03-2021, 02:05 AM
These are rumors as of now. Probably more to do with things like hockey than anything AEW did or didn’t do. Show barely scrapes past most weeks. It’ll still struggle without opposition if that comes to fruition.
You're responding from the wrong account lol
Supreme Olajuwon
03-03-2021, 07:45 AM
Hockey lol
xrodmuc316
03-03-2021, 01:09 PM
Very timely use of that quote, given NXT just bailed on the Wednesday timeslot after getting it's butthole caved in 99% of the time lol
150,000 more U.S. viewers, yeah real slaughter.
You Marks know All Petite is going to lose more Canadian viewers to hockey than they gain from NXT viewers in the United States right?
That's cool though, get yourselves a new Young Bucks shirt to celebrate, that will make you look real cool and Elite! :eek:
Verbose Minch
03-03-2021, 02:17 PM
150,000 more U.S. viewers, yeah real slaughter.
You Marks know All Petite is going to lose more Canadian viewers to hockey than they gain from NXT viewers in the United States right?
That's cool though, get yourselves a new Young Bucks shirt to celebrate, that will make you look real cool and Elite! :eek:
Did you just copy and paste this from /pw/ lol?
That 150k viewers was enough to make THE GAME, THE CEREBRAL ASSASSIN, THE KING OF KING'S, take his program and run to a different night, so clearly it meant something
Also hockey pulls jackshit in ratings. Nobody in the history of the world has ever made a decision based on the fact that the Winnipeg Jets VS the Ottawa Senators controls Wednesday night
Edted for divisional accuracy!!!
xrodmuc316
03-03-2021, 03:01 PM
Did you just copy and paste this from /pw/ lol?
That 150k viewers was enough to make THE GAME, THE CEREBRAL ASSASSIN, THE KING OF KING'S, take his program and run to a different night, so clearly it meant something
Also hockey pulls jackshit in ratings. Nobody in the history of the world has ever made a decision based on the fact that the Winnipeg Jets VS the Ottawa Senators controls Wednesday night
Edted for divisional accuracy!!!
You do realize you sound dumb, right? And I don't throw personal insults around lightly, but that is the only rational conclusion if you think Triple H controls the entire USA Network.
Also, Pro Wrestling Illustrated has a forum now? You think I'm on another wrestling forum talking about AEW lol
Verbose Minch
03-03-2021, 03:57 PM
You do realize you sound dumb, right? And I don't throw personal insults around lightly, but that is the only rational conclusion if you think Triple H controls the entire USA Network.
Also, Pro Wrestling Illustrated has a forum now? You think I'm on another wrestling forum talking about AEW lol
Brother, you're taking things too literally
Noid always references posting on other forums, and given you're his sock.....
xrodmuc316
03-03-2021, 04:56 PM
Brother, you're taking things too literally
Noid always references posting on other forums, and given you're his sock.....
Solid rational you have there bro
Damian Rey 2.0
03-03-2021, 06:52 PM
Can anyone explain why USA would move nxt to Tuesdays? How can't that be viewed as a sign of defeat?
It should make for an interesting Jericho podcast.
Emperor Smeat
03-03-2021, 07:05 PM
Can anyone explain why USA would move nxt to Tuesdays? How can't that be viewed as a sign of defeat?
USA Network finally has something for Wednesdays that typically generates better ratings and ad money than WWE programming so whatever leverage WWE had for that day went up in smoke after NBC made the announcement.
Can't really move NXT to Thursdays or else they'd run into a similar situation as RAW with NFL competition during the later half of the year. They still are going to get hurt by NBA competition but that's usually the lesser of the two evils for WWE. AEW already has shown they can compete well against NBA games so the same should be possible for NXT on Tuesdays assuming they can boost their key demo and younger viewership to much higher levels.
Mr. Nerfect
03-04-2021, 04:22 AM
Hockey lol
Wouldn’t generate higher ratings than wrestling, but I’m sure advertisers respect hockey fans more than wrestling fans. WWE isn’t moving NXT away from Wednesday nights willingly — it was doing its job just fine. They didn’t even try using someone like AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan down there if it were about ratings.
Jordan
03-04-2021, 11:39 AM
I'm not CRAZY about the "Horseman" revivals we seem to have happening just because they probably won't be able to use that trademark. We've seen that a bunch throughout history with Evolution and the TNA version that I can't remember the name for. JJ couldn't even get into the ring so I can't see him sticking around. In that case Tully can stay the manager and they can get a big name to play lead. I don't k ow if Spears is the right guy.
#1-norm-fan
03-04-2021, 12:44 PM
They didn’t even try using someone like AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan down there if it were about ratings.
Didn’t they both appear on NXT when they first started trying to use Raw and Smackdown guys to try to hype NXT and it didn’t do shit?
screech
03-04-2021, 01:16 PM
I remember AJ appearing with Gallows and Anderson to build Survivor Series (or maybe War Games?) like two years ago.
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