All Elite Wrestling

[Seanny One Ball]

I can't Sia chandelier

[slik]

Is that chandelier looking thing over the ring or the stage

I can't tell

[Seanny One Ball]

Can anybody Sia chandelier

[slik]

Safe to say one trend AEW will not be breaking away from WWE on is cringe-inducing apparel.


https://www.allelitewrestling.com/apparel


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[Seanny One Ball]

Here comes the shame

[slik]

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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just in my inbox: <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> has announced it has signed Dean Malenko to serve as a producer on a multi-year deal. He and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> parted ways earlier this year. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/URUPZtLICh">pic.twitter.com/URUPZtLICh</a></p>&mdash; Jon Alba (@JonAlba) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonAlba/status/1131954151238324224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[rez]

Nice!

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AJ Styles crashed the stage at Starrcast <a href="https://t.co/DdAlhzaMXg">pic.twitter.com/DdAlhzaMXg</a></p>&mdash; The Real Suiter (@ZaQ5322) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaQ5322/status/1131794463976648705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can anybody Sia chandelier

The 3 tiered light thing about the Double or Nothing logo

[Vastardikai]

Can anybody Sia chandelier

Well, Party girls don't get hurt...

[Seanny One Ball]

The 3 tiered light thing about the Double or Nothing logo


How many tiers?


One, two, three, one, two, three,
One, two, three, one, two, three...

[slik]

There will be no Sia slander in this thread

[slik]

Other protected categories include:

All music from 2012 and before, with the exception of Creed & Nickelback. Those may be slandered, repeatedly.

[Seanny One Ball]

I love Sia, hence the sweet reference. Not one rep for it either.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well now it feels forced

[Supreme Olajuwon]

And I don’t have a good Sia pun to leave in the comment

[Seanny One Ball]

Sia pun, make a pun.

Big Pun.

[Fignuts]

I Sia been asking for rep.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t really buy that AEW has 6 months of stories planned when they can’t work out a way for PAC to win one match and somehow not be champion of the galaxy.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Pac was gonna win and prob be in the first title match then lose. Now he won't lose to keep the DG belt strong. Aew brass doesn't want a guy they want to be their future star to lose on a one off. Makes sense to me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, he can lose a match. You can build to rematches, other matches, redemption matches, a rebound winning streak with one blemish -- there are a billion things you could do.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've decided I'm not ordering. I was going back and forth, but I've decided to go out for a nice breakfast instead. :y:

[Evil Vito]

I hope people who find the price of the PPV too steep (understandable IMO) don’t end up having their enthusiasm soured for when they eventually start on TV.

[xrodmuc316]

I don’t really buy that AEW has 6 months of stories planned when they can’t work out a way for PAC to win one match and somehow not be champion of the galaxy.

Yeah because they have like 2 shows in the next 4 months, not really a lot of meaning in saying that. They have like 12 hours booked lol

[xrodmuc316]

Safe to say one trend AEW will not be breaking away from WWE on is cringe-inducing apparel.


https://www.allelitewrestling.com/apparel


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I like Adam Page's shirt, I think it's the best one they have currently.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah because they have like 2 shows in the next 4 months, not really a lot of meaning in saying that. They have like 12 hours booked lol

Well, I don’t know if they mean literally the next 6 months from today, or whether they’ve got 6 months worth planned, but it’s not a good omen that they can’t be at all flexible and something simple like a wrestler not being able to lose in September affects a card in May.

[Droford]

I get AEW has nothing to do with Bleacher Report's straming, but their setup on Roku is awful. The WWE's isnt much better so it might be Roku sucks but still...

[Droford]

I hope people who find the price of the PPV too steep (understandable IMO) don’t end up having their enthusiasm soured for when they eventually start on TV.

I might pay 50 bucks for a show based on a couple months buildup on tv but DoN is basically a glorified house show with a great on paper main event and a like 2 other matches that seem interesting.

[Jordan]

I think when it comes to AEW's 6 month plan they have laid out it's probably just a structure for the main players...

I think it's fairly easy to see that we are going to get a Jericho reign at the top and a build for Kenny to rise and reclaim his own title at best in the world as well as the AEW World Championship. Kenny was in contention for the first shot but now he has to deal with Mox, and I don't see that being a quite or quickly resolved issue. Jericho vs Page, and then who knows? Maybe a NJPW crossover? Perhaps Jericho wins the IWGP, then the AEW Championship, dual champ champ until Okada comes to AEW for a return match with Jericho and ends up taking one of the belts. Maybe Kenny has to go to NJPW to get he AEW Championship back. Lots of cool opportunities, I don't see how NJPW and AEW can't have some kind of deal together considering Jericho, Kenny and Mox all are going to be working at both.

[Destor]

Other than the young bucks theyve got a good core roster. Its a shame theyre attached at the hip to those guys, theyre really horrendous.

[Fignuts]

They've gotten better since their shift to heavyweight in NJPW.

DoN was more reminiscent of their all out high spot days, but in that spot, against those opponents, it worked. Hoping that going forward we see stuff more like their feud with Sanada and Evil, as that was really fun.

[Droford]

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all you gotta do is change 1919 to 2019 and root beer to wrestling

[Fignuts]

Luchasaurus officially signed.

Also, Moxley vs Janella at Fyter Fest

Janella sucks, but he's entertaining enough in hardcore matches, which given his oppopnent, I'm sure this will be.

[Emperor Smeat]

Janela's not that terrible but yeah his specialty is hardcore and deathmatch style wrestling so your not going to really get traditional 4+ star matches out of him nor would you expect him to do so.

Also based on his GCW specialty shows, the guy has amazing scouting skills considering the obscure people he's plucked from the indies and made into stars.

[Triple A]

Big Joey Janela fan over here...

[Droford]

Luchasaurus officially signed.

Also, Moxley vs Janella at Fyter Fest

Janella sucks, but he's entertaining enough in hardcore matches, which given his oppopnent, I'm sure this will be.


i really hope thats free or at least reduced price

[Mr. Nerfect]

Luchasaurus officially signed.

Also, Moxley vs Janella at Fyter Fest

Janella sucks, but he's entertaining enough in hardcore matches, which given his oppopnent, I'm sure this will be.

Luchasaurus looks like he's in good shape. I'd like to see the gimmick altered in time, but I think he's a good get.

Janela is awful. Really fucking bad. Moxley should brutalize him. I hope there isn't that compulsion to give him lots.

[Fignuts]

He looked cooler as Vibora in LU

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[Fignuts]

Fucking badass tatoo, I'll tell you what.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How about that <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> entrance?! I had the pleasure of creating his jacket and cape for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoubeOrNothing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DoubeOrNothing</a><br><br>The main inspiration for this was Alucard from Castlevania (with different colors)<br><br>Here is a shot from concept to finished product <a href="https://t.co/cer1QTfRPa">pic.twitter.com/cer1QTfRPa</a></p>&mdash; Denise Cutler - Elite Seamstress (@couple_cosplay) <a href="https://twitter.com/couple_cosplay/status/1133405806374805505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Was thinking more of modified Richter Belmont when I first saw that gear mostly because of the colors.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not an ugly dude and he did well in Big Brother, which means he must have some sort of appeal to idiots. He looks like Seth Rollins. I mean, I can see where that could be a problem and I think having a mask is fine. I just think "Luchasaurus" is a bit silly. I think there's a proper gimmick you can do there.

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW had my interest, now they have my support. <a href="https://t.co/Qo70cNkaVg">pic.twitter.com/Qo70cNkaVg</a></p>&mdash; Creature ₛₕ (@Creature_SH) <a href="https://twitter.com/Creature_SH/status/1133537665268224000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW had my interest, now they have my support. <a href="https://t.co/Qo70cNkaVg">pic.twitter.com/Qo70cNkaVg</a></p>&mdash; Creature ₛₕ (@Creature_SH) <a href="https://twitter.com/Creature_SH/status/1133537665268224000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Looking forward to people being enraged over freedom of speech being violated despite the gentleman being banned not having any rights infringed upon. WWE has kicked people out for having anti Roman Reigns signs.

[slik]

I like that this will make noted internet wanna be reporter "rovert" look like an idiot for tweeting the other day about how the Young Bucks clearly hate diversity/etc/blah blah blah bc they are Christians.

[RP]

What time does AEW come on tonight guys?

[slik]

9pm Central on TruTV

[Evil Vito]

Looking forward to people being enraged over freedom of speech being violated despite the gentleman being banned not having any rights infringed upon. WWE has kicked people out for having anti Roman Reigns signs.

lol yup. especially with that "BUT I THOUGHT AEW WAS FOR EVERYONE!" comment, like it's some sort of gotcha

[Damian Rey 2.0]

So who got the ban? The nerd asking the transphobic to leave or the transphobic?

[slik]

the phobic

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I figured. What a fucking dope he is for posting that shit on Twitter. Idiot. If that's your take, tho I don't agree, then whatever. Share it with your buddies. Not Twitter, you nincompoop.

[slik]

Looking at his profile he seems to be a living troll...sounds like he almost got arrested at Starrcast for causing a scene...also, one of his followers/pals is a dude who was wearing a Benoit Club shirt all weekend.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And looking thru that guys Twitter, he's a miserable piece of shit.

[slik]

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[Droford]

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Lol

[Droford]

Somewhere AidenEnglish cries

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looking into - stay tuned!</p>&mdash; Hot Topic (@HotTopic) <a href="https://twitter.com/HotTopic/status/1134166834108870657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

According to Forbes, high end estimates for Double or Nothing's PPV buys is around 200,000 based on Google trends. Doesn't mean the real numbers will be as high or close to it but Forbes did state it does show that there was WWE-like level of interest for this show.

Double or Nothing's Google Trend numbers indicate that the upstart promotion has more than just a niche following. Saturday night's showcase boasted over 200,000 Google searches, a figure that trailed only Game 6 of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Toronto Raptors, which was the most watched NBA game in Canadian history. Obviously, that is not to suggest Double or Nothing did 200,000 buys—which would be an astronomical company even for a historic show with a five-month build—but it is a promising indicator of strong interest in the pay-per-view ...

To compare, the event drew similar interest to WWE's Money in the Bank pay-per-view on May 19, which also amassed over 200,000 searches on Google trends.

[Triple A]

200k Google searches, not PPV buys...

[slik]

I love that they are doing this

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/buyn3m/for_anyone_curious_about_double_or_nothing_being/

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That is actually really awesome.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, stuff like that is really cool. They brought it up on the pre-show, but they don't hammer it into people like they are great humans for doing it either. WWE would do a three video packages throughout the night about how awesome Stephanie is for doing this sort of stuff.

[slik]

Meltzer reporting Double or Nothing did 98k buys, making it (easily) the most successful non WCW or WWE ppv buyrate ever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love Big Dave, but that’s a bit skewered. It’s been about the only “big scale” wrestling on PPV since TNA, if you consider that. Meltzer reported that 40,000 for Ortiz vs. Liddell was “ice cold.” Bellator would hover around 100,000 and was not considered PPV success. 98k is good with qualifiers.

[#1-norm-fan]

The very first official show of a new wrestling company is a pretty fucking important qualifier though. It’s not like he’s reaching.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

98k buys for a promotion using ppv to debut their productwithout zero tv to build up to it, zero matches to my knowledge, and solely internet hype and vignettes, that's a huge fucking number.

[KIRA]

He looked cooler as Vibora in LU

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THANK YOU!

[Mr. Nerfect]

The very first official show of a new wrestling company is a pretty fucking important qualifier though. It’s not like he’s reaching.

Well, he is seemingly conflated a lot of the data. The 98k is apparently a worldwide number, which means that it must be amalgamated information from across OTT media too, since I know that DoN didn't air on PPV over here, yet Meltz is crediting Australia as being one of the biggest international markets. It was $20 on the FITE app.

So 98k seems to be the number across traditional PPV and streaming services worldwide. Two thirds of that would still put them ahead of TNA's best domestic buy-rate, but that is a worldwide number for AEW across many platforms with quite a few stakeholders.

I'd like to think that the number will get a lot bigger with TNT exposure, but I don't think the internet and being the first AEW show are necessarily points holding back the buys. I mean, being new may have coerced more people into feeling obligated to support it, or help them feel like they're getting in at that ground-level.

I mean, I'm still hopeful they completely blow people's expectations out of the water with television ratings. I'm one of those knobs that doesn't see a reason they can't beat WWE on cable. I don't know why anyone who puts them through three hours of Raw would not give two hours of AEW a go. I just think that this "PPV number" is a little bit...tricky.

It's a fine start though. I'm not trying to call it a failure or anything, lol.

[Evil Vito]

When it comes to Meltzer, everything related to AEW is gonna be conflated given how tight he is with the Bucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know he's tight with them and he probably desperately wants this to succeed, like we all do, but I don't necessarily think that's going to be the case. I mean, what he's not saying is not untrue -- I can unpack what he means from it -- he's just worded it as nicely as possible and in the best possible way to put the babyfaces over.

Well, that's what I think, anyway.

[SenatorJPO]

Some fan was banned from AEW events because he was video'd making disparaging remarks against Nyla Rose, thereby setting-up himself to be labeled "transphobic?"

I guess AEW wants to sell itself to SJWs, a market which I had thought WWE had cornered with its "BE A STAR!" campaigns.

On a related note: I wonder how-many "tranny chasers" Nyla Rose has hounding her after shows?

[Bad News Gertner]

Always a treat when SenatorJPO posts

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm especially a fan of WWE taking the initiative to spike change in places like Saudi Arabia. I think we are only two Super Showdowns away from the emancipation of women, guys.

[SenatorJPO]

Always a treat when SenatorJPO posts


Thank you for the moral support. I'm drafting a fairly involved post for the "ideal year 1998 in WCW" thread, but need to step-out for a few hours.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I cannot wait for that, Senator.

[Fignuts]

Having checked out the guy's twitter, I'm gonna guess he wasn't banned solely for this incident.

Seems to be one of those "be as offensive as possible all the time to become internet famous" type of guys.

[slik]

There was a guy on Reddit who posted about going to high school with him and how, despite being the resident weed dealer, no one really liked the guy because he was obnoxious and a spoiled rich kid, whose parents bought him a house for graduating or something like that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sounds like someone who would question the idea of inclusion not including people who try to piss on the concept.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think they ordered Double or Nothing in Neverland <a href="https://t.co/MLGGDpRlgg">pic.twitter.com/MLGGDpRlgg</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Cutler (@BranCutler) <a href="https://twitter.com/BranCutler/status/1133843489379086336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

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[Droford]

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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">- ALL OUT - <a href="https://t.co/2v9CjuMnfE">pic.twitter.com/2v9CjuMnfE</a></p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1138180190109089793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Droford]

Fyter Fest will be free on the b/r app

[slik]

Hell Yeah

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fyter Fest on B/R Live for free <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> <a href="https://t.co/57sNbIBmWQ">https://t.co/57sNbIBmWQ</a></p>&mdash; �� Nathan Jaynes �� (@xJAYNESx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xJAYNESx/status/1138230895394078720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Simple Fan]

Going to try and get tickets to All Out. Also cool to Fyter Fest is free on b/r live. App worked well for Double or Nothing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Fuck yeah! Was wondering what the price point would be but you can't beat free.

[Droford]

I hope the next show is free. Maybe even 10 bucks if it goes to the charity

[Jordan]

Sweet.

[slik]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jQhyxBG8wh5wjquqOI/giphy.gif

[Tom Guycott]

https://i.redd.it/btcna832hu131.jpg

I'm shocked and flabbergasted! To think, Brandi wouldn't stand on the limo with the rest of the guys! [/sarcasm]

[Tom Guycott]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How about that <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> entrance?! I had the pleasure of creating his jacket and cape for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoubeOrNothing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DoubeOrNothing</a><br><br>The main inspiration for this was Alucard from Castlevania (with different colors)<br><br>Here is a shot from concept to finished product <a href="https://t.co/cer1QTfRPa">pic.twitter.com/cer1QTfRPa</a></p>&mdash; Denise Cutler - Elite Seamstress (@couple_cosplay) <a href="https://twitter.com/couple_cosplay/status/1133405806374805505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Was thinking more of modified Richter Belmont when I first saw that gear mostly because of the colors.

Yeah, the blue threw me too. Don't get why he wouldn't go red and black since he said he was going "full Alucard". Maybe they were afraid it wouldn't show up well with the lighting and opted for the royal blue "Royal Cloak" look.

Then again, it may have been simpler to ditch the blonde dye, tie a headband, and commit to the Richter look... and also use a whip on that throne instead of a sledgehammer. Still would have gotten the point across with the throne being all skull'd and iron cross'd like it was.

[Tom Guycott]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think they ordered Double or Nothing in Neverland <a href="https://t.co/MLGGDpRlgg">pic.twitter.com/MLGGDpRlgg</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Cutler (@BranCutler) <a href="https://twitter.com/BranCutler/status/1133843489379086336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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:buzzzzzzzzzzzz: NEVER LOOK BACK AND NEVER SAY DIE-

:Peter Pan vs. Shawn Spears at Fyter Fest graphic appears:

[Simple Fan]

Speaking of Shawn Spears, I was never a big fan of Tye Dillinger. Granted I wasn't in on the NXT heel run and the Perfect 10 gimmick being a face set me off a bit. He looked like a completely different person though at Double or Nothing though and I dug it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yeah, that part where he was eliminated from a battle royal with a guy with no legs was great. Well, at least he is going to be marrying well.

[Evil Vito]

I’m sure he’d say it’s a whole lot better than being you.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the team <a href="https://twitter.com/Perfec10n?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Perfec10n</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ShawnSpears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ShawnSpears</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> <a href="https://t.co/JRw7CPKVVO">pic.twitter.com/JRw7CPKVVO</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1138861285460725760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Road To Fyter Episode 2<a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DarbyAllin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/brlive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@brlive</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CEOJebailey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEOJebailey</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ITVWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ITVWrestling</a> <a href="https://t.co/AASKAlZTlo">https://t.co/AASKAlZTlo</a> <a href="https://t.co/aZeUMJQ7Xi">pic.twitter.com/aZeUMJQ7Xi</a></p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1138838632125620224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[slik]

Not sure about Spears tbh....never been 'blown away' by him in-ring but we'll see

[RP]

I dont like the play on words for the PPV, because I want them to establish some main named PPV's, however, I need AEW in my life. WWE is fucking AIDS. What time does AEW come on tonight guys?

[slik]

^

I am guessing Double or Nothing and ALL OUT will be permanent ppv names. Everything else is probably negotiable/one-time events

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm actually ok with that. You can use the ppv name as part of the storytelling. Doesn't have to be set in stone.

[Droford]

^

I am guessing Double or Nothing and ALL OUT will be permanent ppv names. Everything else is probably negotiable/one-time events

how is all out a permanent name when last year it was all in?

next year All Over? All Up? All Down?

[Droford]

All In & Out sponsored by In n Out burgers

[Lock Jaw]

Feel like "ALL OUT" is a "bad name".... maybe if you did it "first", but now it looks like "ok, we're going ALL IN on this new company....... actually, nah, we changed our minds we are going ALL OUT now"

I mean, it's still a better name than "Fyter Fest"

[Malfeitor]

Fyter Fest is just the name of the event that they’ll be at.

[Lock Jaw]

In that case, they should have come up with their own name

[#1-norm-fan]

how is all out a permanent name when last year it was all in?

... That’s not what “permanent” means.

“How can this man be permanently disabled when last year he was not?”

[Droford]

permanent would mean next years show would be "All Out" as well. Since they changed from "All In" to "All Out" for the same show as last year I doubt they will keep it as "All Out" for next year, meaning its not a permanent name (unless you want to classify it like WWF did with In Your House with the Word All being used as In Your House and they keep changing the word after All every year).

[#1-norm-fan]

They changed it from “All In” to “All Out” because “All In” had a specific meaning for that show. They were going “All In” on the bet made with Meltzer. They changed the name because the meaning no longer fits the show.

Now they’re going “All Out”. Which is a more proper name for a yearly event. And since Cody has already confirmed that it, along with “Double or Nothing”, will be the main PPVs for the company, then yes. It will likely be a permanent event.

[slik]

Really good Joey Janela promo

+

Very interested in Darby Allin now


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[Fignuts]

Yeah, I hadn't heard of Allin before AEW, but that got my attention.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a><br>Saturday, August 31st, 2019 - <a href="https://twitter.com/Sears_Centre?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Sears_Centre</a><a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KennyOmegamanX</a><br>Tickets on sale tomorrow Friday,June 14th!<a href="https://t.co/h4nYfXfHAT">https://t.co/h4nYfXfHAT</a> Noon Eastern / 11am Central / 9am Pacific <a href="https://t.co/ZJr2Z2aAxs">pic.twitter.com/ZJr2Z2aAxs</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1139201041675816960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Volare]

All right!!

[Destor]

thats their next show

[Lock Jaw]

Is Fyter Fest not a "real" show?

[Rammsteinmad]

Jon Moxley vs. Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho vs. Hangman Page.

Already more excited for this than any WWE PPV this year.

[Evil Vito]

That Darby Allin promo was the tits

[#1-norm-fan]

Feels like Moxley vs Omega should be the title match. Hangman Page feels midcard. Shockingly, winning a comedy battle royal has not made him a star in my eyes.

[Evil Vito]

They've still got 2 and a half months to build him up.

[Sepholio]

Is Fyter Fest not a "real" show?

No it's a real show just not on the level of All Out/All In type shows, which are bigger deals and are probably going to be akin to AEWs WrestleMania. Fyter Fest is basically one of a few smaller shows they will be doing to bridge the gap between the big shows while they wait on their TV deal to start.

Can't wait for Fyter Fest. Should be interesting seeing Moxleys first AEW match and how they handle him being the IWGP US Champ atm.

[Jordan]

Feels like Moxley vs Omega should be the title match. Hangman Page feels midcard. Shockingly, winning a comedy battle royal has not made him a star in my eyes.

I agree. I don't think he will be the champ I think Jericho takes it.

[Jordan]

I don't really buy Darby Allen as someone on Cody's level.

[#1-norm-fan]

They've still got 2 and a half months to build him up.

If they manage to do it, more power to them. I should have also added that I don’t find him to be very good though.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't really buy Darby Allen as someone on Cody's level.

Yeah. I don’t mind the match though. Especially with the show being free. Between that match and the Moxley vs Janela match, it seems like they’re just trying to get their newer unknown guys a little face time with the stars while building the stars up and not blowing through all their main event feuds.

[Evil Vito]

If they manage to do it, more power to them. I should have also added that I don’t find him to be very good though.

Oh, well to each their own. His run in the G1 Climax last year had me really intrigued on seeing him grow as a singles guy.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I don’t mind the match though. Especially with the show being free. Between that match and the Moxley vs Janela match, it seems like they’re just trying to get their newer unknown guys a little face time with the stars while building the stars up and not blowing through all their main event feuds.

I agree, and I like I said I don't buy it but I'll certainly watch it for free.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah. I don’t mind the match though. Especially with the show being free. Between that match and the Moxley vs Janela match, it seems like they’re just trying to get their newer unknown guys a little face time with the stars while building the stars up and not blowing through all their main event feuds.

What kinda rinky dink company doesn't blow big name main events at a throwaway ppv? AEW clearly not ready for the big leagues.

[Droford]

Is Fyter Fest not a "real" show?

Jericho throwing a fit over them doing it for free and pulling out of the show he wasn't even booked for seems odd

[Jordan]

Jericho throwing a fit over them doing it for free and pulling out of the show he wasn't even booked for seems odd

Everything Jericho says is Kayfabe.

[slik]

Pretty safe to say this show is going to be sold out soon. Nearly 50,000 people in queue to buy tix right now


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[slik]

56,000

Insane.


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[Evil Vito]

Somewhere, STD weeps at AEW’s early success

[slik]

64k


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[Evil Vito]

Jesus, they’d sell out MetLife Stadium.

[Simple Fan]

I was #8867 in line and nothing was available when I got in. Buddy of mine was in the 2000s but they didn't have anything in his price range.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Somewhere, STD weeps at AEW’s early success

4 ticket limit. I like that.

[Simple Fan]

They really need to do a stadium show.

[slik]

72k



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These numbers are impressive boys! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLOUT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLOUT</a> <a href="https://t.co/NLPM1FhgDi">pic.twitter.com/NLPM1FhgDi</a></p>&mdash; This is Wrestling - The Joey Ryan Story (@JoeyRyanDoc) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeyRyanDoc/status/1139570001654870017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

Sold out

[Destor]

Jesus, they’d sell out MetLife Stadium.

ticket prices wouldnt be the same. Ftr.

[Simple Fan]

Ended up getting some tickets on Stub Hub for about $90 more than face value. Was willing to spend that much anyway but will just be a bit higher up.

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">15 minutes. <br><br>I did it. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Betterthanyou?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Betterthanyou</a> <a href="https://t.co/GlpY3rrysm">pic.twitter.com/GlpY3rrysm</a></p>&mdash; Maxwell Jacob Friedman (@The_MJF) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_MJF/status/1139588650696679424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DaveWadding]

I guess you could say that they're ALL OUT...of tickets.

[Droford]

Next year's show will be Bought Out..by Vince

[Droford]

Jesus, they’d sell out MetLife Stadium.

And it would be 1/3 full because of scalpers

[Destor]

I do wonder how long it ACTUALLY takes to sell out this show. Scalpers will be selling tickets for what...2 weeks?

[Simple Fan]

Shit was flying off Stub Hub after the sell out. Had tickets get bought before I could get my info in at least 10 times before I got some.

[Evil Vito]

Wish scalping sites didn’t exist. Tired of people buying tickets to events they have no intention of going to and then just jacking up the rates for people who actually want to be there.

But it’s here to stay.

[Frank Drebin]

The ease of it and knowing the tix you're buying aren't fake are the cost of the system.

Sucks but it's not all bad.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Good for AEW. I'm curious to see how their TV attendance goes. They're milking a very dedicated and very mobilized fan base at the moment.

[Frank Drebin]

It's super hot because there's not alot of it and the average wrestling fan in their 30s has been craving something other than the spread-too-thin wwe product, or not readily available ROH for a while.

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on some Steiner Math to account for shenanigans involving ticket sales, Observer reported that AEW was on pace to sell 130,000 tickets for All Out had all the purchases and demand been genuine.

The final number of those who were in the queque and tried to get tickets for All Out on 8/31 in Chicago, the next AEW PPV show, was 72,500 after about 30 minutes, and that is verified as they actually gave people their number in line. Keep in mind a few things about that stat. Some people logged in multiple times. Some of those people were fake. And those who ordered tickets probably averaged at roughly three tickets per order. Based on how quick it took to sell out, how many went through, which factors in multiples and fakes, the actual number of tickets that would have been sold would be just over 130,000. That ticket demand first 30 minutes beat any WrestleMania in history and would be the highest for any pro wrestling show I've ever heard of. The only show higher would have been the first time UFC went to Rio when the ticket demand was legit 250,000 for a 16,000 seat arena. Obviously they way undershot in booking the Sears Center and these numbers are both insane and telling. Stubhub had 893 tickets on sale the last time I checked. With most prices going at 4x ticket value, there will be more put up as they are moving and people are putting more up just because of the markup. The secondary market was on fire today as well.

[Destor]

Thats some janky janky math

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's super hot because there's not alot of it and the average wrestling fan in their 30s has been craving something other than the spread-too-thin wwe product, or not readily available ROH for a while.

This. :y:

Based on some Steiner Math to account for shenanigans involving ticket sales, Observer reported that AEW was on pace to sell 130,000 tickets for All Out had all the purchases and demand been genuine.

Haha, oh Dave.

[Evil Vito]

Picture a scene. We're in a well-lit, spacious office. In walks Cody Rhodes, he looks over to his answering machine as he enteres changing direction when he sees the blinking red light. He pushes the button.

'You have... seventy-three... new messages'

 Cody presses the delete all button and leaves the room to go play Nintendo.

[Frank Drebin]

One of those was from CM Punk.

Oh no!

[Blonde Moment]

One of those was from CM Punk.


Who?

[slik]

It's super hot because there's not alot of it and the average wrestling fan in their 30s has been craving something other than the spread-too-thin wwe product, or not readily available ROH for a while.


People's problems w/ WWE aren't that it is spread too thin, their problems are that it's bad tv and specifically a bad wrestling product overall. Less of WWE doesn't indicate that would change. ROH hasn't been in the big picture for most wrestling fans for a long-time, even when Cody and company were there.

[slik]

People have been craving a good product, period, available on a national/global level.

I hope AEW can fill that void and thus far, their first show was good.

[Tom Guycott]

Picture a scene. We're in a well-lit, spacious office. In walks Cody Rhodes, he looks over to his answering machine as he enteres changing direction when he sees the blinking red light. He pushes the button.

'You have... seventy-three... new messages'

 Cody presses the delete all button and leaves the room to go play Nintendo.

Before he does, Brandi is off camera yelling "That's why you can't 'guarantee', babe!"

Cody stops long enough to wordlessly gives the universal look/head nod of "yeah yeah you were right..." and then continues with his Nintendo.

[Fignuts]

Nigel's reign was the last time ROH felt like ROH. The last time it felt special. It slowly became just another indy fed after that.

[Frank Drebin]

People's problems w/ WWE aren't that it is spread too thin, their problems are that it's bad tv and specifically a bad wrestling product overall. Less of WWE doesn't indicate that would change. ROH hasn't been in the big picture for most wrestling fans for a long-time, even when Cody and company were there.

One of the big reasons it is bad is because its spread too thin. Think about if nxt had a ppv every 4 weeks and had 5 hours of TV to fill every week.

[slik]

Apples and Orange m8

NXT and the actual WWE main-roster product are very different from one another. If anything a good comparison for AEW would be hoping to combine the long-form storytelling of New Japan w/ the in-ring action of New Japan/NXT Takeover.

[slik]

I think AEW will really be it's own thing, I don't think it will go the TNA route of mentioning WWE much as it gets up and running and finds itself. I think they'll focus on finding their own Flair/Luger/Sting/etc over time.

That said, I do agree with you 100% on WWE over-saturating their own market.

[Mr. Nerfect]

People's problems w/ WWE aren't that it is spread too thin, their problems are that it's bad tv and specifically a bad wrestling product overall. Less of WWE doesn't indicate that would change. ROH hasn't been in the big picture for most wrestling fans for a long-time, even when Cody and company were there.

It’s a combination thing that compounds the issue. Having less time doesn’t automatically make you good, but being spread out that far makes it virtually impossible to do so. If NXT was taking up 5 hours every week and then doing a 5-hour PPV every three weeks, we wouldn’t be talking about it in such a comparably favorable light.

One of the big reasons it is bad is because its spread too thin. Think about if nxt had a ppv every 4 weeks and had 5 hours of TV to fill every week.

This is true. NXT also gets a boost from being other. With AEW around now and the promises NXT makes being hollow, it will be interesting to monitor how perception changes.

[xrodmuc316]

Does anybody else think it's kind of funny Mox is working CJ Parker and Big Cass with Enzo out of the gate. These are guys who would have been far beneath him in WWE. That whole he would have left even if there was no AEW is B.S. Nobody is turning down multiple millions for Juice Robinson and Cazz matches.

[Simple Fan]

Not sure about Cazz but they should be turning down money to wrestle Juice.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, Juice fucking rules.

And I say that as someone who absolutely despised C.J. Parker.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I liked his heel gimmick that Daniel Bryan took for his own.

[Evil Vito]

Does anybody else think it's kind of funny Mox is working CJ Parker and Big Cass with Enzo out of the gate. These are guys who would have been far beneath him in WWE. That whole he would have left even if there was no AEW is B.S. Nobody is turning down multiple millions for Juice Robinson and Cazz matches.

He’s said that if AEW wasn’t an option, he still would’ve left WWE because he was miserable there and he was in a position where he’d saved up enough money to not have to continue wrestling.

[erickman]

guess mox respected cas to have his 1st indy match with him they might have got along in wwe.

[Evil Vito]

His first indy match was with Darby Allin this past Friday

[Destor]

Juice has earned his stripes.

[Evil Vito]

Tony Khan confirms they will hold a tag tournament once they're on TNT, presumably to crown the inaugural tag champs.

[Volare]

Tony Khan confirms they will hold a tag tournament once they're on TNT, presumably to crown the inaugural tag champs.

4 titles, all they need. (World,(Middle),Tag,Women's)

[Evil Vito]

Well it might be 4 titles but I'm not entirely sure they'll have a midcard singles one for a while. Khan said he wanted to eventually introduce women's tag belts, and given how many women they've signed along with their pipeline into the joshi world, I think they could actually have a killer division that would get attention.

So maybe it'll be a men's title, a women's title, and tag titles for each. And that's it. People not in title programs will feud over other stuff.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Does anybody else think it's kind of funny Mox is working CJ Parker and Big Cass with Enzo out of the gate. These are guys who would have been far beneath him in WWE. That whole he would have left even if there was no AEW is B.S. Nobody is turning down multiple millions for Juice Robinson and Cazz matches.

you are legitimately the fucking worst.

[slik]

I would prefer no middle division title to be honest.

There's not a middle division title in Basketball, Football, Baseball, Hockey, etc.

[Destor]

I would prefer no middle division title to be honest.

There's not a middle division title in Basketball, Football, Baseball, Hockey, etc.

there's no titles in any of those

[Simple Fan]

LeBron thinks he just won the NBA tag team titles though.

[slik]

Titles/Championships whatever

[Lock Jaw]

There are conference/league champs in those sports.....

[Destor]

Thats not exactly a 1:1

[Simple Fan]

Would probably work better with individual awards like MVP and such. In that case they do have midcard type awards like the 6th Man of the Year.

[Lock Jaw]

Thats not exactly a 1:1

In the sense that slik is talking about it..... a top accomplishment.... but then there are other accomplishments too...

[Destor]

Winning the NBA title is more on par with main eventing wrestle mania

[slik]

I feel like mid-card titles are sort of 'the past'

Everyone should be gunning for top dog spot and maybe gets sidetracked w/ other feuds set up via circumstance/interaction...Just seems like it would be copying what is done before to follow the standard world champ, mid card champ formula...wanting something fresh/different....idk

[slik]

Really h8 that NXT added N American Title...their roster isn't big enough to support that IMO

Everyone should want to be NXT champ

[slik]

#BringBackBloodFEUDS

[Destor]

fuck it. not fresh enough. No belts at all. guys fight for food instead #thinkforward #rightsideofhistory

[Emperor Smeat]

Well it might be 4 titles but I'm not entirely sure they'll have a midcard singles one for a while. Khan said he wanted to eventually introduce women's tag belts, and given how many women they've signed along with their pipeline into the joshi world, I think they could actually have a killer division that would get attention.

So maybe it'll be a men's title, a women's title, and tag titles for each. And that's it. People not in title programs will feud over other stuff.

Probably need to double the amount of women they have now in order to have a healthy women's title division, women's tag division, and women non-title feuds.

5 belts should be the limit since a split of 3 for Men and 2 for Women is enough for the roster size they want and have the belts remain very meaningful to win and hold.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There doesn't need to be a mid-card title in AEW.

[Jordan]

Didn't learn much from the Kahn interview with Austin. Tag tournament once TV starts.

[Droford]

In the "its news to me" folder

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/06/18/aew-nyla-rose-transgender-wrestler

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

there's no titles in any of those

WWE sends them championship belts though. Kinda sorta the same then.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

In the "its news to me" folder

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/06/18/aew-nyla-rose-transgender-wrestler

Link doesn't work. First ever transgender wrestler signed to AEW in Feb. :y:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Didn't learn much from the Kahn interview with Austin. Tag tournament once TV starts.

I sort of wish AEW was funded by anybody but somebody with the name Khan. I hate when people misspell it because Star Trek.

[Droford]

Link doesn't work. First ever transgender wrestler signed to AEW in Feb. :y:

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/06/18/aew-nyla-rose-transgender-wrestler-history?utm_source=reddit.com

hope that works

the article had one of her early indie matches

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not gonna lie, she looks more like a woman now then she did in that match.

I didnt have a lot of an opinion on her match at DoN since her and Kong were out of the ring more than in it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Good for her. :y: Way better for the inclusion cause than Sonny Kiss.

[Tom Guycott]

One of the big reasons it is bad is because its spread too thin. Think about if nxt had a ppv every 4 weeks and had 5 hours of TV to fill every week.

I still don't really believe that. Not at face value. It's not spread too thin just because they have a lot of TV time to fill. They have too much TV time to fill, and they choose to fill it with nonsense segments and "the same people". Even going back to the HHH Reign of Terror... that wouldn't even have been a thing if the man wasn't constantly eating up about 50 minutes of a 2 hour show on average. That's too much, even if he was the World Champ. Hell, especially being World Champ.

They have this idea that if so-and-so is over and he or she doesn't appear at a show/on TV, the "fans feel cheated" or will somehow "forget about them", so they overexpose the hell out of who is over and/or currently a champion and speed up running them into the ground. You have 100 talents on your roster, and you choose to repeatedly focus on the same 20 every week, and maybe throw in another random 10 from the leftover 80, when that time could be better served showing more of the ones who aren't getting showcased at all. They have 5 hours, and what isn't chock full of commercials are filled with the same old shit or something they've unintentionally established means nothing.

Personal feelings aside and simply asking this objectively: why should I care in any way about Mojo Rawley? Everytime that Elias seems to be on the cusp of getting an actual push, he lands in another dead-end and then goes back to his "i'mm a sing a song insulting this city and get interrupted" thing that he's been doing for... how many years now? I should care more about Kingston vs Ziggler, since I have long maintained they are (or at least were years ago) the Steamboat/Flair to one another in the matches they used to have. But both guys have been so misused over such a long period of time that this isn't the "must see" match it could have and should have been... and in fact, this was an afterthought because they wanted to cynically push Ali in a clear bid for a bigger reaction for yet another Middle East show like they were doing with Jinder for India or ADR for Mexico.

If NXT had 5 hours to fill a week and a PPV every 4 weeks, they would be having matches between people you don't normally see. Your champions and their PPV opponents wouldn't be talking a bunch to open every show and then touching in the main event every week.


Really h8 that NXT added N American Title...their roster isn't big enough to support that IMO

Everyone should want to be NXT champ

I didn't like it at first either, but none of the champions are overexposed, so it doesn't matter that they've added some "midcard" stakes. There's other shit going on. Yeah, Adam Cole is NXT Champion. Guess what? He won't be in a match every week. He won't even be on TV every week.

The mistake the main roster would make is to have all the champs featured every week without allowing room for anyone else to grow. See my previous comments on the previous quote.

[Tom Guycott]

fuck it. not fresh enough. No belts at all. guys fight for food instead #thinkforward #rightsideofhistory

http://www.davemillicanbelts.com/Large11/080107/2007_0730McDonalds0023_A.JPG
Why not both?

Make this legit AND count as a legit coupon for free meals for the holder. And they're all shoots.

#BringBackBloodFEUDS

:y: Not everything has to be about belts or trophies or verbal titles. Sometimes, you just need good ol' fashioned hatred.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When you've got 5 hours of television a week and want to put emphasis on a few different things, like a pro-wrestling company should, you almost have to feature the same people. This really is a logistical problem. There is no way for talent not to be overexposed in this environment. And yeah, they are overexposed, even if they aren't on TV every week. Finn Balor isn't more over because he's not being used -- he looks less important and he's still boring and the idea of him wrestling anyone feels played out, even if the match hasn't actually happened. It's as much the idea of content running as it is what the actual content is too.

A 5-hour product is just fatiguing. In terms of commitment. But also you can't spin that many plates -- they all end up crashing down. And you also can't spin only a few, because then it gets so fucking boring so fucking quick.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, the current holdup with AEW making an official announcement regarding the debut of their weekly tv show is stuff on TNT's side related to international markets. TNT is still working on stuff for those markets and until they are done, AEW has to remain on standby.

Wednesday is the current front runner for the day of the week for the show.

[Heisenberg]

http://www.davemillicanbelts.com/Large11/080107/2007_0730McDonalds0023_A.JPG
Why not both?

Make this legit AND count as a legit coupon for free meals for the holder. And they're all shoots.



:y: Not everything has to be about belts or trophies or verbal titles. Sometimes, you just need good ol' fashioned hatred.


If that title ever becomes real in the next 5 years, sign me up. After 40 I don't plan on chasing a belt with such prestige

[Jordan]

When you've got 5 hours of television a week and want to put emphasis on a few different things, like a pro-wrestling company should, you almost have to feature the same people. This really is a logistical problem. There is no way for talent not to be overexposed in this environment. And yeah, they are overexposed, even if they aren't on TV every week. Finn Balor isn't more over because he's not being used -- he looks less important and he's still boring and the idea of him wrestling anyone feels played out, even if the match hasn't actually happened. It's as much the idea of content running as it is what the actual content is too.

A 5-hour product is just fatiguing. In terms of commitment. But also you can't spin that many plates -- they all end up crashing down. And you also can't spin only a few, because then it gets so fucking boring so fucking quick.

So true. :y::y:

[Tom Guycott]

Finn Balor isn't more over because he's not being used -- he looks less important and he's still boring and the idea of him wrestling anyone feels played out, even if the match hasn't actually happened. I

Because they already ran him into the ground and established him as an also-ran. Goes back to the difference between main roster and NXT.

He's less important because they've established that he's less important. In NXT, his matches were a big deal, and demon appearances were "HOLY SHIT!" On main roster, he's been distilled down to "jobber unless wearing paint" Not saying keeping everyone off TV will solve all their problems. What I'm saying is they could use that time to make Finn Balor important again instead of consentrating on Brock Lesnar, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and the second coming of the HHH Reign of Terror in Shane "Best In The Wooooooorld" McMahon all the time.

They have such a breadth of talent, but so few of them feel in any way important. They may even start out with so much hype and spotlight, and that fades so quickly due to indifference (any tag team callup), mishandling (Asuka going from a handicap match multi-woman murder machine to barely getting a win against Emma), overexposure (I like Rousey, and I get getting your money's worth, but she wasn't a neccessary evil weekly).

And one thing they could do - they could really do - to fill up all that time? Have more matches. Yeah, not everything has to be backstage skits or multiple promos be they live or canned. Have more televised lower stakes matches and save some of those main events. 3 Hours of RAW (which, let's be honest, isn't 3 hours without all the commercial padding). There could be more matches with more guys who aren't doing shit but standing around in catering every week. Start planting seeds for them to become future stars later, and not hotshot them to the top of the card randomly one day because their ethnicity plays into travel plans. Your main event could be a tag team title match. You don't have to trot out the WHC and midcard champ. Now, granted, Brock Lesnar is at the polar end of that spectrum, but I don't really want to count him because there are other things at play with him in particular.

Like, remember when we all shit on Jinder going from jobber to "main event threat" in like 3 weeks? Now, imagine if they took the time and care to build him up from then to now with baby steps and feuds and storylines and reasons to care about seeing him succeed or fail. With better writing and progression, he wouldn't be pinning R-Truth on a plane runway for a comedy angle championship; people could be looking at him like they're looking at Drew McIntyre (mostly... this whole lackey shit is diminishing him at the moment, but you get my point) and he would be a "somebody" up near the higher end of the card- maybe even a WHC contender depending on how things turned out. But that's too much like work, so when the rocket up his ass failed spectacularly, that must have been because he didn't have "it" or somesuch, and now he's back to comedy angles and rare appearances.

Dammit. I had a point to sum this up with, and I got sidetracked by something else and forgot what I was going to write.:|

[Mr. Nerfect]

Because they already ran him into the ground and established him as an also-ran. Goes back to the difference between main roster and NXT.

He's less important because they've established that he's less important. In NXT, his matches were a big deal, and demon appearances were "HOLY SHIT!" On main roster, he's been distilled down to "jobber unless wearing paint" Not saying keeping everyone off TV will solve all their problems. What I'm saying is they could use that time to make Finn Balor important again instead of consentrating on Brock Lesnar, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and the second coming of the HHH Reign of Terror in Shane "Best In The Wooooooorld" McMahon all the time.

They have such a breadth of talent, but so few of them feel in any way important. They may even start out with so much hype and spotlight, and that fades so quickly due to indifference (any tag team callup), mishandling (Asuka going from a handicap match multi-woman murder machine to barely getting a win against Emma), overexposure (I like Rousey, and I get getting your money's worth, but she wasn't a neccessary evil weekly).

And one thing they could do - they could really do - to fill up all that time? Have more matches. Yeah, not everything has to be backstage skits or multiple promos be they live or canned. Have more televised lower stakes matches and save some of those main events. 3 Hours of RAW (which, let's be honest, isn't 3 hours without all the commercial padding). There could be more matches with more guys who aren't doing shit but standing around in catering every week. Start planting seeds for them to become future stars later, and not hotshot them to the top of the card randomly one day because their ethnicity plays into travel plans. Your main event could be a tag team title match. You don't have to trot out the WHC and midcard champ. Now, granted, Brock Lesnar is at the polar end of that spectrum, but I don't really want to count him because there are other things at play with him in particular.

Like, remember when we all shit on Jinder going from jobber to "main event threat" in like 3 weeks? Now, imagine if they took the time and care to build him up from then to now with baby steps and feuds and storylines and reasons to care about seeing him succeed or fail. With better writing and progression, he wouldn't be pinning R-Truth on a plane runway for a comedy angle championship; people could be looking at him like they're looking at Drew McIntyre (mostly... this whole lackey shit is diminishing him at the moment, but you get my point) and he would be a "somebody" up near the higher end of the card- maybe even a WHC contender depending on how things turned out. But that's too much like work, so when the rocket up his ass failed spectacularly, that must have been because he didn't have "it" or somesuch, and now he's back to comedy angles and rare appearances.

Dammit. I had a point to sum this up with, and I got sidetracked by something else and forgot what I was going to write.:|

I think there's truth in the statement that WWE and NXT are different animals, but I think NXT can afford to be a different animal. Balor got to be presented as special in NXT (to be honest, this is about the period I got bored with NXT and stopped watching the weeklies), but that's because he didn't need to be on each week wrestling. When he's part of a main roster presentation, sure, they could take more care with how they thread him through things, but they've also got 5 hours to fill and if he's not wrestling on a show (to keep that special) then you've got to fill that time with something else. This means that you've got the spotlight on something other than him, which means he's no longer going to be special. But if you put the spotlight on him all the time, then you're going to get sick of him anyway.

Now, that's not to say there aren't problems with how the present people on the main roster. There absolutely are. And these things might even change if Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn are ousted. But you're still going to have this persisting problem of guys being on TV too much, because there's just simply too much TV.

And Triple H is going to get so fatigued if he gets the book and he tries to put such intricate care into 5 hours of television. He might divvy it up, but it's still a lot of commitment from viewers, who are supposed to care about all of it. When you realize that you don't need to watch all of it because it doesn't matter, that becomes the habit. This is why AEW is so smart coming along now. There is money in TV and WWE needs that money. They are going to be stretched out and exposing themselves for 3-5 years (or however long those deals are). They're going to be running too much content for a long time. Plus they're pricey. Those two things together are going to be where AEW can really hit them.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Kenny Omega likes to discuss AEW business related stuff while playing Apex Legends. Also hinted he has used video games to help recruit potential talent for the company.

Omega represented AEW at the E3 Gaming Convention in California and it was at that convention that he announced that AEW's Fyter Fest show on June 29th will stream live on Bleacher Report Live for free. Omega also chatted with 'Kotaku' at the event and shared that he does have business conversations concerning AEW over games of Apex Legends.

“One of the things I would actually do is, if you want to talk business with me, learn Apex [Legends]. We’ll squad up, join a party and we’ll talk all the business you want while we play,” he said. “I may or may not have,” he said when asked about recruiting talents over games of Apex Legends. “And there may or may not be more recruits via Apex Legends or some sort of other video game means where we can have a party chat,” he said. “I’m not going to lie, there are times when I’m playing with people online, whether it be just random people or it be people I’ve just set up sessions with and, via how they act online with me, I can tell this guy would be a handful backstage. You’ll get a feeling for how they interact with people, how they multitask, how they handle pressure, if they’re willing to help you out in a jam. You get an indication of how people really are.”

[Frank Drebin]

Drebin will be at All Out

[slik]

Nice!

[Frank Drebin]

I will have an EXCLUSIVE report that I will publish on the TPWW front page complete with nude photos of that MONSTER Kenton Lane.

[Simple Fan]

I'm going to just do the know if we are flying in or driving. Haven't been to a wrestling show since TNA ran some shows in a minor league ball park in Lexington so I'm pretty pumped.

[slik]

I will have an EXCLUSIVE report that I will publish on the TPWW front page complete with nude photos of that MONSTER Kenton Lane.

Just remember everyone, these photos were taken when it was very cold outside.

[slik]

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[Sepholio]

well that answers how they don't acknowledge his title lol.

[Fignuts]

BTE is fun and all, but the "road to" series has really gotten excellent.

[slik]

Very interested in seeing Darby Allin wrestle, good promo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DarbyAllin</a> LIVE this Sat, June 29th at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FyterFest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FyterFest</a> -- Watch for FREE in the US on <a href="https://twitter.com/brlive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BRLive</a> / <a href="https://t.co/abXNiCfvr4">https://t.co/abXNiCfvr4</a> <a href="https://t.co/YOEqZrYWU7">pic.twitter.com/YOEqZrYWU7</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1143304043772534784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Tom Guycott]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Saturday <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JanelaBaby</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> x <a href="https://twitter.com/CEOGaming?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEOGaming</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FyterFest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FyterFest</a> <a href="https://t.co/5J1o2oRBco">pic.twitter.com/5J1o2oRBco</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1144274190477996033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Prediction directly from my ass: Janela wins with an unexpected assist from Killer Kross.

[Evil Vito]

AEW have applied for the name Wednesday Night Dynamite

[#1-norm-fan]

Prediction directly from my ass: Janela wins with an unexpected assist from Killer Kross.

They’d be crazy to have Moxley job right out of the gate to Joey Janela. I did have the thought the other day that Darby Allin upsetting Cody is a real possibility though. I hope it doesn’t happen... but something tells me it might.

[Destor]

AEW have applied for the name Wednesday Night Dynamite

lol for real?

[Destor]

thats a joke yeah?

[slik]

1st ep is expected to air Wed, Oct 2nd on TNT

[Destor]

its not a joke...is it...? :(

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I guess it's probably "wednesday night DYNAMITE" cuz they're on TNT.

I don't hate the name as much as you do Dessy, but I'm definitely not in love with it.

[Destor]

My issue is its too much of a play on Nitro. Set your own path. Hacky.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

My issue is its too much of a play on Nitro. Set your own path. Hacky.

I don't disagree by any means. Also, the name doesn't really roll off the tongue.

[slik]

Name doesn't bother me at all tbh

[Frank Drebin]

Universal Championship

[Simple Fan]

More thrown off with the night than the nane. Wish it was a Thursday night show. Could've called it Thursday Night Tannerite to really play off TNT.

[slik]

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[xrodmuc316]

The non sanctioned match is such an easy concept to make a regular hardcore or no dq match seem way more special.

This is probably now the match I am most looking forward to.

[Lock Jaw]

I kind of want the AEW weekly show to be like 30 minutes tops and feature no wrestling on it

[Sepholio]

Bout to leave for Fyter Fest wooooooooooooo

[slik]

Have an awesome time!

[Droford]

I guess it's probably "wednesday night DYNAMITE" cuz they're on TNT.

I don't hate the name as much as you do Dessy, but I'm definitely not in love with it.

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[Sepholio]

Jesus I'm like 8000th in line rn

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Jesus I'm like 8000th in line rn

Stay hydrated.

[Volare]

Have a good time broski!

[Jordan]

Sick. Curious how many tickets get sold.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to CEO's Alex Jebailey, they expect somewhere around 9k to 10k tickets sold and could go as high as around 12k.

Last year's show with NJPW did around 4k while the pre-sale for this year's show with AEW sold 1k more than what NJPW did.

[Triple A]

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[Evil Vito]

Penta, Fenix, Laredo Kid vs Kenny and the Bucks rematch booked for Triplemania, presumably for the AAA team to immediately get their win back in Mexico for the second show in a row.

[Jordan]

Ech... I dont care for that booking. Also I'm just a little "over" the Lucha Bro's. They work so many main events that i think I've seen their act so many times this year alone. WM weekend I saw them in like 4 matches.

[Jordan]

Anyone know about ROH contracts with Scurll and Flip? They need to be in AEW and fill out The Elite.

[Evil Vito]

Ech... I dont care for that booking. Also I'm just a little "over" the Lucha Bro's. They work so many main events that i think I've seen their act so many times this year alone. WM weekend I saw them in like 4 matches.

lol the only match I saw them in was at Wrestling Revolver's Pancakes and Piledrivers at WrestleCon, they turned up in a gauntlet and wrestled for all of 2 minutes before being eliminated in bullshit fashion, probably because they had to run to another booking

[Evil Vito]

Anyone know about ROH contracts with Scurll and Flip? They need to be in AEW and fill out The Elite.

Scurll's deal is up in the fall. I believe Flip is signed on for longer which is why he's joined Villain Enterprises and will probably turn on Scurll in a few months.

[Simple Fan]

Anyone know about ROH contracts with Scurll and Flip? They need to be in AEW and fill out The Elite.

Really want to see Marty catch SCU's rollercoaster on the BTE intro.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'll get to see the Lucha Bros I'm August at the Lucha expo in San Diego. Taking the girlfriend's kids. Pretty excited.