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Simple Fan
08-02-2019, 12:29 AM
MJF is neither heel or face, he's MJF.
SlickyTrickyDamon
08-02-2019, 12:35 AM
No, he's a heel.
Simple Fan
08-02-2019, 01:38 AM
No he's MJF. Heel and face is no different than black and white. He's what people like you would probably call a tweener but that is stupid. He's MJF, he's his own person that can be anything at any given moment. Really if you want good pro wrestling everyone would be a tweener. It's not realistic to be a pure anything and that's not just a wrestling problem.
Lock Jaw
08-02-2019, 01:40 AM
No, he's a heel.
Simple Fan
08-02-2019, 01:55 AM
Just look at what Cody has done in AEW. Match wise he's been the heel in all of the except the match against the Young Bucks. But even then the Bucks are typically faces to this crowd. All the while Cody has put off a sympathetic tone in his promos. Resulted in the best match in forever against his brother. It's a more realistic dynamic that really good about this company in my opinion. Emotion is the real kicker and you can't really get emotion with black and white characters.
Simple Fan
08-02-2019, 01:57 AM
MJF is MJF.
SlickyTrickyDamon
08-02-2019, 02:11 AM
He's better than you, and you know it. He's also a heel.
Seanny One Ball
08-02-2019, 02:42 AM
MJF is an outcast
Jordan
08-02-2019, 08:31 AM
MJF is 100% a heel.
Not excited for Cody and Guevera but w/e.
I think that Jericho's partners will be Lucha Bro's but also LAX is possible and the best option would be Pac and Marty, and I think I remember Marty's ROH contract was up in September from the Observer about a year ago.
Ol Dirty Dastard
08-02-2019, 10:02 AM
Even if that is the case, making part of your show suck intentionally and be a worse version of WWE just to take a “shot” at WWE doesn't exactly make it better. In fact, it’s much worse.
I was going to say - if this is the actual case - 'how very WWE of them."
#1-norm-fan
08-02-2019, 10:56 AM
Jericho’s mystery partners being the Lucia Brothers or anyone else that has already been on the shows would be a huge mistake. If that’s the case, just announce them. Don’t make it clear right out of the gate that your “surprises” don’t actually mean anything. Only gonna make them come off more TNA-like.
It’s gotta be someone new and preferably someone with a little bit of a name to a casual fan. No clue who they could get. Weren’t Gallows and Anderson’s contracts supposed to be up soon?
Fignuts
08-02-2019, 01:31 PM
LAX maybe
Emperor Smeat
08-02-2019, 03:18 PM
Jericho’s mystery partners being the Lucia Brothers or anyone else that has already been on the shows would be a huge mistake. If that’s the case, just announce them. Don’t make it clear right out of the gate that your “surprises” don’t actually mean anything. Only gonna make them come off more TNA-like.
It’s gotta be someone new and preferably someone with a little bit of a name to a casual fan. No clue who they could get. Weren’t Gallows and Anderson’s contracts supposed to be up soon?
Gallows and Anderson signed new deals with WWE.
LAX makes the most sense if its someone not currently in AEW. Supposedly they still have a few people signed that haven't been revealed yet for various reasons.
Vastardikai
08-02-2019, 04:30 PM
I still say, if they are in anything resembling shape, Storm and Credible.
Conversely, any decent level internet famous team will work. Heatseekers like I mentioned previously, the Carnies, or the Classic Connection (with Zane.)
Emperor Smeat
08-02-2019, 04:39 PM
According to Cody Rhodes, AEW's debut tv show hit sold out status although more seats likely will become available for sale after they finish production plans for the show.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SOLD OUT❗️<br><br>Thank you all so very much. <br><br>(Do not give up hope on being there live though, we should be lifting potential camera/production holds as we get closer to the event. Keep checking at <a href="https://t.co/tzvxkxvV0O">https://t.co/tzvxkxvV0O</a> ) <a href="https://t.co/lScHFwc4cd">pic.twitter.com/lScHFwc4cd</a></p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1157369136508481537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Volare
08-02-2019, 04:47 PM
Hell yes!
Fignuts
08-02-2019, 08:40 PM
I still say, if they are in anything resembling shape, Storm and Credible.
Conversely, any decent level internet famous team will work. Heatseekers like I mentioned previously, the Carnies, or the Classic Connection (with Zane.)
I don’t think their best option for their debut on mainstream television is two old guys who very few people ever gave a shit about.
Mr. Nerfect
08-03-2019, 01:52 AM
Justin Credible is a definite no from me.
Mr. Nerfect
08-03-2019, 01:53 AM
MJF is one of the few heels in wrestling.
Mr. Nerfect
08-03-2019, 01:55 AM
PAC and Scurll are good bets, actually. I would love for this to be where New Japan reveals they are working with AEW though. Ibushi and Suzuki please.
Fignuts
08-03-2019, 03:38 AM
Pretty sure they're not even on good terms right now, due to how everything went down during AEW's formation.
And that's before you even get into NJPW's partnerships with ROH and CMLL.
Frank Drebin
08-03-2019, 12:01 PM
Depending on how "important" they make this match, it'll be interesting to see which direction they go with the mystery. If it's 50 year old wwe/ecw/wcw mid carders than fears of them being TNA 2.0 will go into overdrive.
#1-norm-fan
08-03-2019, 12:33 PM
Well Jericho has commented “you won’t believe” who he got to team up with him which puts more pressure on them to deliver something good.
BigCrippyZ
08-03-2019, 01:18 PM
It's going to be Vince & Shane isn't it? Or Hogan and HHH? :lol:
The reaction would be priceless and also potentially dangerous in terms of potential for a riot. The result would be awful of course, because then we wouldn't be getting a potentially actual quality WWE alternative that we're all hoping it will become. Sure, the odds are obviously essentially zero that it's the case, but it would still be hilarious and brilliant (but also frustrating and disappointing) if this was all a huge swerve job by everyone involved.
Lock Jaw
08-03-2019, 01:26 PM
I bet it is screech and Seanny One Ball
James Steele
08-03-2019, 09:42 PM
Jericho’s partners will be CM Punk and Batista.
Seanny One Ball
08-03-2019, 11:49 PM
The reaction would be priceless and also potentially dangerous in terms of potential for a riot. The result would be awful of course, because then we wouldn't be getting a potentially...
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Mr. Nerfect
08-04-2019, 07:51 AM
I'd like to see Cain Velasquez as a hired gun of Jericho's. It would be nice if Rusev had his contract quietly expire and just leaked that he was having time off and showed up in the main event of the first AEW show.
Emperor Smeat
08-04-2019, 03:33 PM
We have heard from a number of PWInsider.com readers that commercials for the 10/2 debut of All Elite Wrestling on TNT have been seen running before and after The Rock's newest film Fast & Furious Presents: Hobb & Shaw at AMC Theaters this weekend. Obviously, that's a really smart marketing tie-in as you'd expect that the audiences of The Rock's films to at least be somewhat interested in professional wrestling.
The commercial features Cody, Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley, The Young Bucks and more, specifically pushing the October 2nd premiere. The 10/2 taping is being held at the sold out Capitol One Arena in Washington, DC.
AMC is the largest movie house in the United States, so AEW should get some eyeballs on the promo.
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Lock Jaw
08-04-2019, 03:44 PM
The Rock confirmed as one of Chris Jericho's partners
The locations of week 2 and 3 will be announced tomorrow
Emperor Smeat
08-06-2019, 12:49 AM
According to Nick Jackson, AEW is looking at a potential crowd size of around 12k for their debut tv episode. They already sold around 10k tickets and will have around an extra 2k seats for sale once the production holds are removed.
Also revealed they were initially estimating around 5k-6k for ticket sales for their tv debut.
"We just sold 10,000 tickets in two hours. It's considered a sellout right now, but production is killing about 2,000 seats. They'll be opened soon, I hope. This is unbelievable. I said five thousand, our guy Raf said six max. We're facing Jericho and two mystery partners."
AEW headed to Boston and Philly for weeks 2 & 3, a 7k and 10k seat arena.
ClockShot
08-06-2019, 01:48 PM
Is "Boston" code for Lowell and they're grabbing the memorial auditorium like NJPW is?
Or somewhere else I don't know about.
Emperor Smeat
08-06-2019, 03:05 PM
Is "Boston" code for Lowell and they're grabbing the memorial auditorium like NJPW is?
Or somewhere else I don't know about.
Nope, its actually in Boston and at the Agganis Arena.
AEW announced the locations for their second and third weeks of AEW on TNT TV shows today.
– Wednesday, October 9 – Boston, MA (Agganis Arena)
– Wednesday, October 16 – Philadelphia, PA (The Liacouras Center)
ClockShot
08-06-2019, 05:33 PM
Open up with the Capital One Arena and go to a couple college spots for the next shows.
Sounds about right. I guess if it really grows and there's a bigger demand for tickets they might actually grab the bigger venues.
Mr. JL
08-07-2019, 01:23 AM
They were practically house shows. That was intentional. They were both free for fucks sake. What do you want them to do? Blow their load on a charity event and have nothing left for the PPV and TV debut?
I highly doubt that they were intended to be viewed as house shows given the effort put forward. In fact, my criticism rests entirely on your wording, "Blow their load..."
I felt that there was entirely too many matches where guys were blowing their loads and too many high spot kick outs and too many matches essentially being the same style of match with very little selling.
Outside of matches involving Cody, Jericho & Moxley; everybody else seems to be striving for The Young Bucks match where there are way too many hurricanrana's and tornado DDT's and high spots that lead to meaningless 2 counts.
Stop watching only the Young Bucks.
I watched the entirety of the shows. It is not just the Young Bucks. There were moves that were used to obliterate an opponent yet the same opponent kicks out easily. This happened way too often.
Got to have a little variation in the match type to reel in various types of fans and keep things fresh so it isn't a standard Raw tv match.
I feel AEW needs more of this variation because a lot of it just feels like more of the same.
Emperor Smeat
08-07-2019, 04:56 PM
Based on recent trademark filings, AEW might be considering another potential name for their weekly tv show. Could also just be the name for a potential future ppv event as well.
On August 2, AEW filed for a trademark for “AEW Revolution” at the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
It’s not clear what the trademark is specifically for, but similar to previous AEW trademarks filed, it’s trademarked for use for various miscellaneous “goods and services,” including “Entertainment services, namely, an ongoing television show about professional wrestling” but also things like “downloadable ring tones,” clothing, action figures, and more.
Sounds good to me either way
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SlickyTrickyDamon
08-07-2019, 11:24 PM
Roddy Piper's daughter just signed on that Battle Royal.
DaveWadding
08-08-2019, 01:32 AM
The real news is that Ivelisse is ALL OUT.
Volare
08-08-2019, 10:48 AM
I'm already hyped for that....hoping to god Brandi doesn't win via BS.
Seanny One Ball
08-08-2019, 09:36 PM
Is she fighting Monica over a boy?
Seanny One Ball
08-08-2019, 09:36 PM
She needs to give that up.
Frank Drebin
08-08-2019, 10:00 PM
Woah, 90's pop reference from Seanny outta nowhere!
Frank Drebin
08-08-2019, 10:03 PM
Still wondering if we get a Kong v Kong match at All Out or if they'll just build it up more.
I've asked this before, but can either of them still get it done in a 1 on 1 match? Awesome Kong I haven't even seen in a match in years, so although I used to love her I'm wondering if shes still got it.
Frank Drebin
08-08-2019, 10:06 PM
Also, I agree with @realdavewadding, the possible Ivelisse signing is good. Shocked WWE let her go so easily.
Fignuts
08-08-2019, 10:22 PM
Aja Kong can barely walk anymore. So no.
Fignuts
08-08-2019, 10:23 PM
She’s literally the undertaker of women’s wrestling.
Emperor Smeat
08-08-2019, 10:35 PM
Also, I agree with @realdavewadding, the possible Ivelisse signing is good. Shocked WWE let her go so easily.
Think it was due to a mix of attitude issues and her being outspoken about Bill DeMott's abusive training regime in developmental. Also some alleged homophobic slurs she made during her time there.
Think she also had a similar rep in regards to attitude issues in some other places she's worked in.
Mr. Nerfect
08-09-2019, 04:36 AM
Glad Ivelisse and Jazz are in. A bit annoyed they are doing another stupid fucking Battle Royal.
Frank Drebin
08-09-2019, 04:00 PM
Who's going to bust out the baby oil in this one?
Seanny One Ball
08-09-2019, 04:25 PM
The morbidly obese guy is going to use it to shove the legless guy up his ass.
Jordan
08-10-2019, 07:52 AM
Really hoping AEW runs NYC this year.
Jordan
08-10-2019, 07:55 AM
Glad Ivelisse and Jazz are in. A bit annoyed they are doing another stupid fucking Battle Royal.
I agree. The first one wasn't well received by anyone why do it again? Aside from that... Two Royal Rumbles , New Japan Rumble, Rumble of Honor, MLW 40 Man Rumble, Casino Battle Royal 1.... TOO MANY GODDAMN BATTLE ROYALS THIS YEAR
Frank Drebin
08-10-2019, 01:00 PM
Maybe they learned some things from the first and will have a better one this time?
Evil Vito
08-10-2019, 01:15 PM
There is no such thing as too many battle royals
weather vane
08-11-2019, 12:32 AM
I like battle royals. I would say the majority of the casual fan does as well.
Mr. Nerfect
08-11-2019, 12:34 AM
Casual fans don't watch wrestling anymore. Hell, look at how quiet these boards are. Hardcore fans barely watch anymore.
Vastardikai
08-12-2019, 02:42 AM
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This is coming to my area in a couple of weeks. A few notes:
1. Mikey Gulino's "Three Faces" (We always called the first one Guacamole for some reason, The Creator, and Coach Mikey) were the gimmicks he used around Augusta, which is his hometown (he's a super nice dude).
2. The show name is an obvious homage to "Joey Janella's Spring Break." In and of itself, that means nothing. However...
3. Most noteworthy folks on the poster are Leva Bates and Christopher Daniels.
Speculate away...
Evil Vito
08-12-2019, 08:59 AM
Joey Janela's Spring Break went from initially being cute novelty to being ramped up to a level beyond parody, and now it's encouraged spin-offs.
Ugh.
Simple Fan
08-12-2019, 09:20 AM
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3. Most noteworthy folks on the poster are Leva Bates and Christopher Daniels.
Speculate away...
Eli Drake
Jordan
08-12-2019, 11:01 AM
Yeah that show "won't matter"
Fuck Yes
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the team....<a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OrangeCassidy</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> �������� <a href="https://t.co/Vwhch0Tavm">pic.twitter.com/Vwhch0Tavm</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1160962902678839304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’ve revealed about 40% of the roster. Sometimes it’s better to let the painter paint and then judge the picture.</p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1160639448318709765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Evil Vito
08-12-2019, 02:23 PM
Only around 40% of its roster?
Given how many people have already been seen on their shows, that means the roster is fairly gigantic. Might allow them to not have to have the same people wrestle on TV week after week after week, which will help keep everybody fresh.
Volare
08-12-2019, 02:51 PM
Jim Cornette is gonna have a stroke is he ever gets near AEW.
DaveWadding
08-12-2019, 03:57 PM
Think it was due to a mix of attitude issues and her being outspoken about Bill DeMott's abusive training regime in developmental. Also some alleged homophobic slurs she made during her time there.
Think she also had a similar rep in regards to attitude issues in some other places she's worked in.
I'm not gonna deny that she's kind of a tool, but she is definitely a strong worker and was a free agent.
BigCrippyZ
08-12-2019, 04:00 PM
Interesting. If true, that means their roster is likely around 110 to 115 wrestlers.
Emperor Smeat
08-12-2019, 04:32 PM
I'd assume a huge chunk of the remaining roster are probably just part-timers either as freelancers like Ibushi before he signed a NJPW contract or doing double duty work like Riho with AEW & Stardom.
If not, then AEW is going to quickly run into the same problem NXT has with a very bloated roster and not enough quality time to spread around.
Emperor Smeat
08-12-2019, 04:45 PM
Joey Janela's Spring Break went from initially being cute novelty to being ramped up to a level beyond parody, and now it's encouraged spin-offs.
Ugh.
That was inevitable after Spring Break 2 raked in some serious cash for GCW leading to more Janela themed shows and spinoffs happening.
Seanny One Ball
08-12-2019, 08:00 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’ve revealed about 40% of the roster. Sometimes it’s better to let the painter paint and then judge the picture.</p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1160639448318709765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Cody Rhodes seems a little pretentious
Vastardikai
08-12-2019, 09:45 PM
Much of the roster consists of small children (credit: Jim Cornette), it appears.
Mr. Nerfect
08-13-2019, 08:03 AM
I don’t know how I can take the main event seriously when the rest seems like comedy divisions. Come on, Cody. :(
Jordan
08-13-2019, 08:15 AM
I don’t know how I can take the main event seriously when the rest seems like comedy divisions. Come on, Cody. :(
:y::y:
Orange Cassidy is great on a GCW show or whatever but if he is going to do that gimmick on TV for AEW then honestly IDK. I really like Tony's view on AEW saying he wants it to be a "sport".... but then they signed Orange Cassidy so idk.
Summerslam was pretty good guys!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wrestling buffet my friend! <a href="https://t.co/RTWTGxkFq7">https://t.co/RTWTGxkFq7</a></p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1161013674623897600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Cody Rhodes is creative and ambitious
Fixed
Evil Vito
08-13-2019, 02:34 PM
Jim Cornette is gonna have a stroke is he ever gets near AEW.
Hi I'm Jim Cornette, and I hate fun and comedy in wrestling, also I hate cosplay wrestlers. I like my wrestling serious, and serious only and will threaten violence upon anyone who exposes the business. Anyway, here's my world champion wrestling a 4,000 year old mummy.
Seanny One Ball
08-13-2019, 05:21 PM
Fixed
I wasn't talking about him beyond the wording of his Tweet or whatever it was.
#1-norm-fan
08-13-2019, 06:40 PM
I like Cody. I’m holding off on calling him creative until weekly TV. So far the shows they’ve put on have been a lot of athletic matches with no sign of long-term storytelling, bad comedy and a handful of meaningful gems. So pretty much just mid 2000s TNA.
Lock Jaw
08-13-2019, 07:12 PM
There's only one man who can get me really invested in AEW.
And that man is Avery Hoke.
Mr. Nerfect
08-15-2019, 04:10 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wrestling buffet my friend! <a href="https://t.co/RTWTGxkFq7">https://t.co/RTWTGxkFq7</a></p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1161013674623897600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It doesn't matter if you have the world's best potato salad on offer if there is also a chance that you're going to get dog shit from another section. People are just going to go to where you don't risk the dog shit.
Fignuts
08-15-2019, 04:54 AM
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Droford
08-15-2019, 05:33 PM
If I had an extra ticket to the show in DC would anyone want to go for free? I'm debating on whether to buy 1 upper level ticket on the far end for $35 or buy 2 uppers for $21 each but in a slightly better seat view.
pic (https://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/anonymous-20130316164954.jpg)
Approx view for 2 ticket seats (ring would be around center Court/stage would be to right)
If anyone's interested I'll go with the two Tix otherwise I'll just buy 1 or try for better seats. I'm not really interested in paying out the nose for better ticket though.
AEW tix between $20-$90
Very reasonable pricing
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">- Boston, MA -<br><br>Tickets on sale tomorrow at Noon et!<a href="https://t.co/tzvxkxvV0O">https://t.co/tzvxkxvV0O</a> <a href="https://t.co/W6zo56iqCL">pic.twitter.com/W6zo56iqCL</a></p>— Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1162091708206784518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">October 16th, <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> comes to <a href="https://twitter.com/LiacourasCenter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LiacourasCenter</a> in Philadelphia! <br><br>Tickets go on sale tomorrow at 12pm ET / 9am PT <a href="https://t.co/cxVYqA2DYT">https://t.co/cxVYqA2DYT</a> <a href="https://t.co/AOKVJEJalP">pic.twitter.com/AOKVJEJalP</a></p>— The Young Bucks® (@MattJackson13) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattJackson13/status/1162092615254155264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Droford
08-15-2019, 07:03 PM
Im buying my tickets off a reselling site. I kinda figured Id be paying more for a ticket, but nor really if I can buy a resale ticket for $20-30 which when factoring in Ticketmaster fees might be cheaper than directly buying since the site im using doesnt charge fees.
Simple Fan
08-15-2019, 10:12 PM
The black background they use for promos like this fit great. Brandi delivers a great promo here.
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The President of TNT on AEW:
https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/fall-tv-network-presidents-hulu-hbo-cbs-nbc-fox-fx-1203302392/
https://i.imgur.com/wHZFduc.png
Tom Guycott
08-15-2019, 11:07 PM
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I DIG THE MASTER SPLINTER POST. YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.
There's only one man who can get me really invested in AEW.
And that man is Avery Hoke.
Every time I scroll past this, I keep reading it as "Brady Hoke", and wonder WTF he could bring to the AEW table that he couldn't at Xichigan?
Simple Fan
08-15-2019, 11:12 PM
Also Jim Cornette has lost it. He's grouping together everything he hates. Somehow he found a way to compare AEW to Trump and the Republican party. I enjoy hearing him shit on AEW and all but his latest podcast was sad.
Mr. Nerfect
08-15-2019, 11:31 PM
Cornette’s latest podcast was brilliant.
Mr. Nerfect
08-15-2019, 11:31 PM
It’s called a segue, Simple Fan, you simple fuck.
Simple Fan
08-16-2019, 12:00 AM
No a segue is when you transition to another subject all together that might tie in. I waited the whole podcast for the damn thing to start. It's not a segue if you jump back and forth between the two subjects at will. He's lost it to the point he's finding anything he can in the things he dislikes to compare.
Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 07:54 AM
No, he segued from talking about how stupid AEW is for hiring that guy to how stupid the gun shit is in the US. You’re just too stupid to follow. The only thing that came close was when he pointed out that invisible men are stupid whether they are in the sky or a wrestling ring, which was pretty clever and tied everything together well.
Simple Fan
08-16-2019, 11:21 AM
No he didn't. He compared everything from Orange Cassidy to Tony Kahn to the Young Bucks to Trump, the Republican party and guns. He didn't segue from shit, as he just jumped back and forth between the two but its a stupid comparison to begin.
Simple Fan
08-16-2019, 11:36 AM
Anyway got my car rented and room booked for All Out. Ready for the show now
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 12:21 PM
I'm pretty sure he was talking about people he would block on Twitter when he began that tirade. There was no real comparison made between Trump and AEW wrestling.
Simple Fan
08-16-2019, 12:50 PM
The twitter part was about the Young Bucks because they blocked him. He compared their ability to influence Tony to hire shitty wrestlers to Trump influencing stupid Americans.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 01:18 PM
Ach well that's a hyperbolic non sequitur. I don't see any reason to take him seriously when he says things like that, especially since he is a wrestling personality and not a political commentator.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 01:21 PM
I think he just feels intense anger at certain things and when he gets that feeling he relates it to whatever last made him feel that way.
Don't scrutinise the politics in a podcast about wrestling history.
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 01:43 PM
The point of Orange Cassidy is that he's a rich kid waster. He's always either too lazy, hungover or stoned to give a shit about wrestling. Him wrestling with his hands in his pockets isn't "exposing the business" because, when he's wrestling like that, he's terrible - his strikes have no impact, none of the moves he attempts really land, because he's not trying to win the fight.
If he gets serious, he's more than capable of winning, but he rarely does. If anything, that does more to support wrestling as a legitimate fight than if people were selling his hands-in-pockets stuff as serious offense.
But, of course, that would be apparent if people actually watched his matches before criticizing him.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThankYou?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ThankYou</a> Boston and Philadelphia <a href="https://t.co/5xbuUJS810">pic.twitter.com/5xbuUJS810</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1162410480478150662?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jordan
08-16-2019, 01:47 PM
Crazy!
Malfeitor
08-16-2019, 01:50 PM
You get out of here with that type of rational thinking, Vito!
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 02:01 PM
The point of Orange Cassidy is that he's a rich kid waster. He's always either too lazy, hungover or stoned to give a shit about wrestling. Him wrestling with his hands in his pockets isn't "exposing the business" because, when he's wrestling like that, he's terrible - his strikes have no impact, none of the moves he attempts really land, because he's not trying to win the fight.
If he gets serious, he's more than capable of winning, but he rarely does. If anything, that does more to support wrestling as a legitimate fight than if people were selling his hands-in-pockets stuff as serious offense.
But, of course, that would be apparent if people actually watched his matches before criticizing him.
"Exposing the business" in an in-ring sense means to do something that makes it obvious to viewers that the action is controlled or illegitimate. In this sense Orange Cassidy absolutely is exposing the business.
That being said, nobody in a professional wrestling promotion has to worry about kayfabe now because the cat was let entirely out of the bag by the mid 90's.
Jim Cornette knows the cat can't go back in the bag with AEW or WWE so complaining about their wrestlers breaking kayfabe or "exposing" the business is ludicrous. It's even worse when everybody in their right mind knew it was fake for about 50 years before that.
I love Corny but he can't win the war on sports entertainment because it is effectively a stunt show now. Nobody tries to convince anybody it's real nowadays.
So all in all Jim clearly has huge insecurity over his assertion that everybody who saw his shows back in the day believed it. I think somewhere deep in his heart he knows that the average wrestling crowd knew it was a work and even the riots were born out of the audience's desire to misbehave than anybody truly believing it.
Those that did believe it were stupid, naive or deluded.
People forget that riots and dangerous crowd interactions don't mean that people bought it. It just means they wanted their money's worth whether that be in the result or the in ring work. Also, some people just like to stab, punch or kick wrestlers regardless of their authenticity.
Fignuts
08-16-2019, 03:01 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 03:34 PM
No he didn't. He compared everything from Orange Cassidy to Tony Kahn to the Young Bucks to Trump, the Republican party and guns. He didn't segue from shit, as he just jumped back and forth between the two but its a stupid comparison to begin.
You are actually a moron. First it was the Eli Drake fandom, then it was the nationalism, now this. Your analysis on anything should not be trusted.
He pointed out that Tony Khan is being fleeced just like Trump is fleecing people, but they are clearly two separate subjects connected by a theme of stupidity and being influenced. I can’t believe you need a throat-clearing on that.
The point of Orange Cassidy is that he's a rich kid waster. He's always either too lazy, hungover or stoned to give a shit about wrestling. Him wrestling with his hands in his pockets isn't "exposing the business" because, when he's wrestling like that, he's terrible - his strikes have no impact, none of the moves he attempts really land, because he's not trying to win the fight.
If he gets serious, he's more than capable of winning, but he rarely does. If anything, that does more to support wrestling as a legitimate fight than if people were selling his hands-in-pockets stuff as serious offense.
But, of course, that would be apparent if people actually watched his matches before criticizing him.
That is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. Yeah, when I am hungover or stoned, the thing I like to do is go into a professional fight I don’t give a shit about with my hands in my pockets and wearing sunglasses over my eyes that someone could smack the lenses into. That is so fucking ridiculous.
And why would someone hire this guy to fight? There’s a fundamental problem in the psychology of paying someone like that to get into the ring. From a marketing perspective to a health and safety one.
But yes, this makes wrestling look more legitimate. Pick a fight with a hungover person and watch them put their hands in their pockets as a defense mechanism. Holy shit, lol.
Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 03:41 PM
"Exposing the business" in an in-ring sense means to do something that makes it obvious to viewers that the action is controlled or illegitimate. In this sense Orange Cassidy absolutely is exposing the business.
That being said, nobody in a professional wrestling promotion has to worry about kayfabe now because the cat was let entirely out of the bag by the mid 90's.
Jim Cornette knows the cat can't go back in the bag with AEW or WWE so complaining about their wrestlers breaking kayfabe or "exposing" the business is ludicrous. It's even worse when everybody in their right mind knew it was fake for about 50 years before that.
I love Corny but he can't win the war on sports entertainment because it is effectively a stunt show now. Nobody tries to convince anybody it's real nowadays.
So all in all Jim clearly has huge insecurity over his assertion that everybody who saw his shows back in the day believed it. I think somewhere deep in his heart he knows that the average wrestling crowd knew it was a work and even the riots were born out of the audience's desire to misbehave than anybody truly believing it.
Those that did believe it were stupid, naive or deluded.
People forget that riots and dangerous crowd interactions don't mean that people bought it. It just means they wanted their money's worth whether that be in the result or the in ring work. Also, some people just like to stab, punch or kick wrestlers regardless of their authenticity.
We’re in trouble when you are making more sense than most other people in a thread. Corny doesn’t believe that people 100% believed it though. He states this constantly, and that people always knew something was up. He just appreciates when there’s logic unpinning everything, and there is a point to the platform for simulating conflict. He also likes it when wrestling attempts to play at your emotions and doesn’t immediately say “Hey, we tried to manipulate you, don’t get too invested though” like The Young Bucks did with the Shawn Spears heel turn.
If you think about it, that was literally the EVPs of a company trying to make you mad telling you not to be mad. It’s actually insane. Only wrestling.
I also disagree that people can’t be worked. Almost half the US voted for Trump. Have you ever heard a rumor get off the ground? There are people who are convinced that wrestling has always used fake blood. There are people who think Jesus loves them or that woman really did cum that many times. Marketing still exists when we know exactly what our needs are.
Working is literally everywhere except wrestling. It’s the weirdest thing.
Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 03:50 PM
Imagine not taking your MMA career seriously, so the night before you get smashed and then go into your UFC fight with your hands in your pockets. Come on, Vito, you have to admit that was a ridiculous thing to say.
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 04:27 PM
Hardly. Work in HR as long as I have and you'll find there are people in literally every profession that do the bare minimum of just showing up. I've worked with people like that too - holy shit this guy can be a star performer but he'd rather just come in and coast along. People who show moments of brilliance but who have no interest in applying themselves.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 04:29 PM
LOL, me and Noid agree.
Ugh
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 04:30 PM
Hell you can find these fuckheads in college all the time too.
"Shouldn't you study for the test tomorrow instead of going to that party?"
"Fuck nah, C's get degrees"
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 04:32 PM
Comparing voting for Trump to a work is egregious. The people knew what they were doing.
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 04:32 PM
Professional wrestling: the only profession in the world where everybody takes their job super seriously 100% of the time
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 04:33 PM
Hell you can find these fuckheads in college all the time too.
"Shouldn't you study for the test tomorrow instead of going to that party?"
"Fuck nah, C's get degrees"
Dude we're talking about a sport where you get punched in the face, a guy with his hands in his pockets will die.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 04:36 PM
Professional wrestling: the only profession in the world where everybody takes their job super seriously 100% of the time
You can't see why having your hands in your pockets in a fight is a bad idea?
Ask Anderson Silva what too much clowning will get you, and he didn't even have pockets.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 04:37 PM
I can only suspend my disbelief so far
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 04:52 PM
You can't see why having your hands in your pockets in a fight is a bad idea?
Ask Anderson Silva what too much clowning will get you, and he didn't even have pockets.
Of course it's a bad idea. Doesn't mean there aren't dumb fucks who will do it.
No worse of an idea than showing up to your job at a manufacturing plant and fucking about. I've seen quite a few workers comp cases in my time.
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 04:53 PM
Orange Cassidy gets told by HR that he'll be fired due to fucking about too much and then turns into a badass submission machine who doesn't take shit from anybody.
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 04:55 PM
gonna try to get hired by AEW to do a Toby Flenderson gimmick
The point of Orange Cassidy is that he's a rich kid waster. He's always either too lazy, hungover or stoned to give a shit about wrestling. Him wrestling with his hands in his pockets isn't "exposing the business" because, when he's wrestling like that, he's terrible - his strikes have no impact, none of the moves he attempts really land, because he's not trying to win the fight.
If he gets serious, he's more than capable of winning, but he rarely does. If anything, that does more to support wrestling as a legitimate fight than if people were selling his hands-in-pockets stuff as serious offense.
But, of course, that would be apparent if people actually watched his matches before criticizing him.
Agreed!
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 05:03 PM
gonna try to get hired by AEW to do a Toby Flenderson gimmick
See this would actually work
Fignuts
08-16-2019, 05:11 PM
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Droford
08-16-2019, 05:12 PM
You can't see why having your hands in your pockets in a fight is a bad idea?
Ask Anderson Silva what too much clowning will get you, and he didn't even have pockets.
I kinda like the spot in a match I saw where he did a kip up with his hands in his pockets and the other guy tried with his hands in his trunks and was looking like an idiot rocking back and forth.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 06:03 PM
Of course it's a bad idea. Doesn't mean there aren't dumb fucks who will do it.
No worse of an idea than showing up to your job at a manufacturing plant and fucking about. I've seen quite a few workers comp cases in my time.
We were talking about "exposing the business". We are not talking about "bad things to do at work".
Vito come on. You keep ignoring the literal aspect of it. How can anyone believe in this? I'm not arguing about how fun it is to watch or how valid it is as a form of entertainment either, just responding to your claim that Orange Cassidy is not exposing the wrestling business.
Fignuts
08-16-2019, 06:33 PM
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Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 06:46 PM
We were talking about "exposing the business". We are not talking about "bad things to do at work".
Vito come on. You keep ignoring the literal aspect of it. How can anyone believe in this? I'm not arguing about how fun it is to watch or how valid it is as a form of entertainment either, just responding to your claim that Orange Cassidy is not exposing the wrestling business.
I've already addressed that in my original post. It would be ridiculous if Orange Cassidy to attempt to win a fight by keeping his hands in his pockets and throwing soft slow motion kicks. But he's not expecting to win the fight. He's not trying to win. He does not care.
And his opponents react in kind. They don't sell his weak ass offense. If anything, a lot of them get flustered because they presumably spent time training for this fight only for this slacker to show up not even taking it seriously.
It's not "exposing the business" merely having a guy on the card who is completely phoning it in. People phone it in in every profession.
Evil Vito
08-16-2019, 06:48 PM
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/16/D44C05B9-A1C2-4B44-8342-C0D9C692B92D.png
Fignuts gets it
Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 07:06 PM
Comparing voting for Trump to a work is egregious. The people knew what they were doing.
Some did, absolutely. Some got worked.
Professional wrestling: the only profession in the world where everybody takes their job super seriously 100% of the time
Stop using exaggerated extremes. There’s a difference between working in HR and getting punched in the face. Jokes aside. Do you think people walk out into battlefields with their hands in their pockets? Being a coaster might mean getting by on your talent, like a Randy Orton or something (who still works incredibly hard to be an athlete at any sort of professional level). It doesn’t mean going into a fight defenseless, ignoring the fight or flight response and pretending to kick your opponent.
If he doesn’t want to be there, why is he there? Why does Tony Khan employ him? It makes no sense.
Dude we're talking about a sport where you get punched in the face, a guy with his hands in his pockets will die.
Seanny is right and I’m not even going to be snarky about it.?
I've already addressed that in my original post. It would be ridiculous if Orange Cassidy to attempt to win a fight by keeping his hands in his pockets and throwing soft slow motion kicks. But he's not expecting to win the fight. He's not trying to win. He does not care.
And his opponents react in kind. They don't sell his weak ass offense. If anything, a lot of them get flustered because they presumably spent time training for this fight only for this slacker to show up not even taking it seriously.
It's not "exposing the business" merely having a guy on the card who is completely phoning it in. People phone it in in every profession.
I cannot believe I am reading this, lol. Not caring if you win or lose is exposing the business. The way he “fights” exposes the business. It’s clearly fake. No one apathetically fights like that, lol. Imagine watching MMA and seeing a guy try that shit. Wtf have you been smoking, Vito?
What’s the point of any of this shit? What is the point of wrestling if the conflict doesn’t matter? And that’s not taking into account that it’d be executed badly if he were a masochist or nihilist or whatever, and had a death wish. This is just a question about the way you frame stories. What is the point of wrestling if not to win?
Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 07:10 PM
A trust fund kid might steal a car on a lark, but they are actually going to try and steal a car. And if they spend even a night in prison and are attacked by an unsavory character, they are not going to defend themselves with soft kicks to the thigh with their hands in their pockets.
Holy shit, I cannot believe I am engaging on this ridiculous point.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 07:20 PM
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/16/768B1FA9-3E23-47B7-92A5-68221EFF2ABC.png
An Irish whip is "less silly" than an aluminium garbage can used as a weapon.
But here we are now.
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 07:22 PM
Actually I may be wrong there. That was a bad example. I once saw a guy get knocked out with a half empty can of Coke...
Mr. Nerfect
08-16-2019, 07:23 PM
I don’t like Bray Wyatt or Undertaker either. At least they try to win their matches too.
Fignuts
08-16-2019, 07:35 PM
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/16/32C3CAB2-A93A-454A-943A-4CCE03F2139B.png
Fignuts
08-16-2019, 07:39 PM
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/16/287492B3-8418-4C7E-96B4-AA509AFFC7CD.png
Seanny One Ball
08-16-2019, 07:42 PM
Nobody disagrees
Fignuts
08-17-2019, 01:36 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WTi32LVh.jpg
Droford
08-17-2019, 02:41 AM
I don’t like Bray Wyatt or Undertaker either. At least they try to win their matches too.
This is the above match I was talking about. OC does his schtick early on and then transitions into being a normal wrestler and actually busting out some decent moves and some ring psychology (hooking Starrs leg after having him block a suplex twice)
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VcL4a4ohS-g" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
He also did it all with a legit looking busted nose very early on.
I like OC
I like his look
I like his gimmick
I think he's a good wrestler too
Mr. Nerfect
08-18-2019, 08:16 AM
This is the above match I was talking about. OC does his schtick early on and then transitions into being a normal wrestler and actually busting out some decent moves and some ring psychology (hooking Starrs leg after having him block a suplex twice)
<iframe width="726" height="408" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VcL4a4ohS-g" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
He also did it all with a legit looking busted nose very early on.
Lol, you do realize that you are talking about psychology in regards to a guy who “doesn’t try.” It’s nonsense. You don’t start properly working a match ten minutes in or whatever.
And to the people who say “well, it just depends on what your threshold for silliness is,” why are they even gambling with that in the first place? And why test the suspension of disbelief of lapsed fans who suspended their watching because they couldn’t suspend disbelief anymore?
Destor
08-18-2019, 04:16 PM
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/08/16/32C3CAB2-A93A-454A-943A-4CCE03F2139B.png
Fact: the more an audience is required to suspend its disbelief the less the show draws.
Emperor Smeat
08-18-2019, 09:35 PM
According to the Observer, Tony Schiavone has recently signed a deal with AEW.
Jordan
08-18-2019, 09:39 PM
According to the Observer, Tony Schiavone has recently signed a deal with AEW.
Yeahhhh!
According to the Observer, Tony Schiavone has recently signed a deal with AEW.
Niceeee
Mr. Nerfect
08-19-2019, 12:56 AM
Fact: the more an audience is required to suspend its disbelief the less the show draws.
Too true.
Vastardikai
08-19-2019, 02:37 AM
Fact: the more an audience is required to suspend its disbelief the less the show draws.
I fully expect Joey Janella to last one episode of the TNT show before he sees a camera in his face and decides to yell "FUCK JIM CORNETTE" loud enough for Tony Khan to fire him to save face with Standards and Practices.
Droford
08-19-2019, 03:02 AM
According to the Observer, Tony Schiavone has recently signed a deal with AEW.
How long til he goofs and welcomes everyone to Nitro on TNT
I would love a Tony - Jim Ross - Excalibur commentary team
Locations 4 & 5 will be revealed Monday for AEW's weekly show
Mr. Nerfect
08-19-2019, 03:12 AM
I fully expect Joey Janella to last one episode of the TNT show before he sees a camera in his face and decides to yell "FUCK JIM CORNETTE" loud enough for Tony Khan to fire him to save face with Standards and Practices.
That was seriously low-rent shit. You’d think someone would have given him a talking to about that one, but who knows? If you were doing a play and you stopped in the middle of it to cuss out a critic, you’d be fired. People who bought tickets would be outraged. Only in wrestling, lol.
Mr. Nerfect
08-19-2019, 03:17 AM
I like Tony, but there’s something a bit WCW about him calling a wrestling show on TNT. They’ve already got JR. Excalibur is fine (not great). Just let him call it with JR.
Going to be so weird hearing JR trying to get around Orange Cassidy’s stuff. Cody hires this guy and calls him “Jim fucking Ross,” but then you trot him out there to call joke stuff? This project is VERY schizophrenic. I am trying to detach myself so I don’t get heartbroken if this ruins alternatives to WWE with networks. The cynic in me is morbidly curious to see how people take it.
Weeks 4 & 5 of AEWonTNT will be:
Pittsburgh, PA (10/23)
Charleston, WV (10/30)
ClockShot
08-19-2019, 12:42 PM
Pittsburgh should pack 'em in. West Virginia might be their first test.
Jordan
08-19-2019, 01:10 PM
Richmond Coliseum should be set up for 10-12,000 I would think, and Pittsburgh maybe 8-10. They could easily do what WWE does and cut the arena's in half but I'm hoping they don't. I hate how WWE's big screen cuts off so much arena. Every arena has a screen, and the entrance ramp could be a lot more "sports authentic" than we've seen in the past. But considering Fyter Fest, I doubt it.
Jordan
08-19-2019, 01:11 PM
$80 front row for Richmond. Amazing.
Vastardikai
08-19-2019, 03:39 PM
That was seriously low-rent shit. You’d think someone would have given him a talking to about that one, but who knows? If you were doing a play and you stopped in the middle of it to cuss out a critic, you’d be fired. People who bought tickets would be outraged. Only in wrestling, lol.
Most of the fully invested are the Hipster marks who think Cornette is an old man yelling at a cloud instead of someone who is actually giving feedback that would benefit them, if they would listen.
All In worked because there was only one moment of cringe in it. It was one more moment than necessary (Seriously, I had to explain Joey Fucking Ryan to my Dad.), but didn't bring the whole show down. AEW thus far looks more like a big budget PWG than a big budget All In, and that is going to cause them problems in the long run.
Emperor Smeat
08-19-2019, 03:49 PM
I like Tony, but there’s something a bit WCW about him calling a wrestling show on TNT. They’ve already got JR. Excalibur is fine (not great). Just let him call it with JR.
Probably not going to be a commentator for AEW at least for the first couple of years due to his current commitments with college sports and MLW.
I'd assume he's going to be their newsroom recap guy for shows until his other stuff is done. Could probably buy out his MLW deal if MLW is interested and the money is right.
Jordan
08-19-2019, 06:34 PM
Just want to put my two cents on Orange Cassidy.
I saw him at Lost In New York, I had never herd of him. He certainly made me laugh in a gimmick ladder match. But when you watch him you do have to shift your focus to "the fun bullshit" part of the show. And tbh that's not something I really care to see on AEW. It's fine when you are doing a rebel show like Spring Break but on a mainstream network to take the piss out of everything like that...
Now like I said I do enjoy Cassidy, so I'm curious to see what happens. When I hear Tony talk about AEW I like everything he's thinking and planning. It seems to me that the Bucks and Kenny have an obsession with that DDT style and are going to incorporate it. I guess we shall see how it goes. Still very excited for AEW.
But I guess my impression was that AEW was going to be sold as a sport. I hope they stick with that.
Emperor Smeat
08-19-2019, 07:33 PM
The sports stuff was mostly about presentation and how wins-losses would matter more than how its handled in WWE and everything changing on a whim based on Vince's mood that day.
Like think more towards NJPW for a reference on what they are going for on paper. They already do post-match press conference and try to frame the action as more pro wrestling/sports-oriented than WWE's theatrical and promo-based style. You still get your share of comedic stuff and character-based talent since you need that variety in the roster to keep things fresh and interesting in the long run.
Mr. Nerfect
08-19-2019, 08:34 PM
Probably not going to be a commentator for AEW at least for the first couple of years due to his current commitments with college sports and MLW.
I'd assume he's going to be their newsroom recap guy for shows until his other stuff is done. Could probably buy out his MLW deal if MLW is interested and the money is right.
That’s a good spot for Tony.
Just want to put my two cents on Orange Cassidy.
I saw him at Lost In New York, I had never herd of him. He certainly made me laugh in a gimmick ladder match. But when you watch him you do have to shift your focus to "the fun bullshit" part of the show. And tbh that's not something I really care to see on AEW. It's fine when you are doing a rebel show like Spring Break but on a mainstream network to take the piss out of everything like that...
Now like I said I do enjoy Cassidy, so I'm curious to see what happens. When I hear Tony talk about AEW I like everything he's thinking and planning. It seems to me that the Bucks and Kenny have an obsession with that DDT style and are going to incorporate it. I guess we shall see how it goes. Still very excited for AEW.
But I guess my impression was that AEW was going to be sold as a sport. I hope they stick with that.
People like to mock when people take wrestling seriously (imagine being passionate about your pastime), but I seriously don’t understand the logic behind trying to present serious acts and angles at the same time as “exposing your business” (I hate that phrase, because the meaning often just gets ignored, but it fits).
Like, Shawn Spears hitting Cody with a chair was brilliant. He has great motivation too. He doesn’t want to just be a solid hand. He’s a main eventer (in his eyes) that has just never had the shot. So fuck Cody and over a decade of friendship, he’s going to take the advice of a legend who made some real money in wrestling. It’s immersive and has years of history. Then, in the most show conference, two of your EVPs talk about how the chair was gimmicked.
What is the point of trying to create this tension for a pay-off if the bosses are just going to try and snap you out of it? I actually don’t understand it. It’s like flipping the lights during an intense play.
Emperor Smeat
08-20-2019, 12:37 AM
According to PWI, TNT is going to air a one hour AEW special on August 30th at 10PM EST as both an introduction to the company and as the final hype for AEW's All Out event.
Jordan
08-20-2019, 08:25 AM
That’s a good spot for Tony.
. Then, in the most show conference, two of your EVPs talk about how the chair was gimmicked.
What is the point of trying to create this tension for a pay-off if the bosses are just going to try and snap you out of it? I actually don’t understand it. It’s like flipping the lights during an intense play.
I know! I got marks on my head from scratching so much after that. I don't think in industry as whole can totally align through kayfabe the way it once was. But at least holding up the truth to a story (line) instead of pulling back the curtain constantly is much more entertaining. Look at Austin, even in his podcast (and yes he does pull the curtain but you can tell it's still a little weird for him) sometime's he'll have a wrestler guest on his pod and they end up cutting promo's at each other. You know it's not real but it's still so fun because Austin is one of the best characters there is so to hear a promo by him is going to be better than 99% of the active wrestlers.
When it comes to wrestling on TV I want them to keep kayfabe. Simple as that. And yeah I'd prefer they keep kayfabe in the presser and not pull back the curtain to say things like "oh that wasn't supposed to happen" or "What happend wuz" or "the gimmick didn't work as planned" etc...
No you won't be able to convince me wrestling is legit competition but you can make me believe even for a moment (and it's worth it) that someone went too far, went into business for himself, you can through confidence and commitment make stories seem real. Real enough so that you don't feel the need to expose that they are fake.
As I mentioned earlier I was looking to that sports element talked about for AEW. But in all likelihood it won't be stronger than NJPW's presentation. I just don't see how it can be. Maybe it's because it's in a language I can't understand but it's quite easy to suspend your smarter belief and buy into moments (many) of realism regularly produced by NJPW.
Ultra Mantis
08-20-2019, 09:31 AM
The thing with New Japan's backstage interview press scrum is that the journalists are in on the act, they aren't asking questions about the production aspects, spots, botches or how they safely land on their necks so often. Most of the time they don't ask any questions at all, they just let the guys do their promo and play along. You're not going to get that with the western dirt shirt guys because they're all about scoops and getting themselves over.
I don’t watch a lot of NJPW but the bits I’ve seen (Including The Recount recap videos on their YouTube channel) have some great little nuances that add to the presentation, and their long form storytelling is superb. I like their presentation.
I get the Orange Cassidy gimmick but from that match shared earlier it’s shit. There’s a way to present a “rich kid waster” and it’s not with those fucking “chops”.
Mr. Nerfect
08-21-2019, 07:40 AM
They’re not going to keep kayfabe. It’s a dirty word to those guys.
Ol Dirty Dastard
08-21-2019, 02:46 PM
Well said, Mantis.
Frank Drebin
08-21-2019, 10:41 PM
Why haven't they announced a match for MJF at All Out? If he doesn't cut a promo I'm going to ask for a refund.
Another good signing, Goldenboy was great on commentary at Fyter Fest
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome aboard!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://t.co/9MwKgW8dpk">https://t.co/9MwKgW8dpk</a></p>— Alex Marvez (@alexmarvez) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/1164333418945097728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Mr. Nerfect
08-22-2019, 03:14 AM
How many announcers do they need?
Mr. Nerfect
08-22-2019, 03:15 AM
Why haven't they announced a match for MJF at All Out? If he doesn't cut a promo I'm going to ask for a refund.
I imagine he's going to turn on Cody Rhodes after either being in his corner or being rejected for the position. He might wrestle earlier and a cut a promo.
Jordan
08-22-2019, 08:26 AM
Yeah Goldenboy was good. But yeah they may have "too many" announcers, maybe not. Might as well get Tenay in to call Luchasaurus matches too.
Week 6 of AEW remains in the Eastern U.S., Charlotte NC. Tony Schiavone confirmed as signing w AEW on latest Being The Elite'.
Volare
08-26-2019, 03:44 PM
Kenny promo on BTE was great.
RaginRonic
08-26-2019, 04:42 PM
If you guys here look at post #75 in this thread, made back on Jan. 3 of this year, I floated Tony Schiavone's name in respect to the play-by-play commentary table, and it looks like I nailed it back then. Link below for refresher.
https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5210564&postcount=75
If this does indeed become reality, what's the chance that Khan would maybe talk to Tony Schiavone about doing play-by-play?
That wouldn't shock me that much to hear.
=P
I kinda had that feeling then that that would happen for AEW.
=)
Emperor Smeat
08-27-2019, 03:05 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While the Schiavone announcement from AEW is worded to make it sound like Tony is joining the commentary team, I'm told that's not the case. He'll just be on the overall broadcast team. <a href="https://t.co/52nVFYUcJm">https://t.co/52nVFYUcJm</a></p>— Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1166027992746745856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UPDATE: Sources say Schiavone may EVENTUALLY join the commentary team. AEW is currently focused on All Out. Tony was previously committed to University of Georgia football on the 31st.<br><br>I'm told an eventual reunion w/ JR is likely.<br><br>For now, Tony is being used as a utility player</p>— Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1166062448698220546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
erickman
08-27-2019, 03:24 AM
that's what tony wanted to do with the wwe be a producer, wonder aew can get him away from the other sports jobs he does with in the next year.
Damian Rey 2.0
08-27-2019, 11:53 PM
Tony calling the action with Jr chiming in sounds so good. I love Tony's naturalsense if urgency in big moments.
Jordan
08-28-2019, 08:47 AM
Honestly AEW is so up against the wall. You've essentially got Cody, Kenny, Jericho, Mox and The Bucks vs WWE.
I know the PPV hasn't happened yet but I am feeling worried about Hangman, he hasn't been built up as a serious contender for Jericho, I have no faith that he will be the first Champion, nor should he be. But they could've been building up that story, but they really have left it flat.
I did like Kenny's recent promo on BTE. It's interesting though that he didn't play a traditional face or heel, right down the middle. I don't see Kenny as the main face of AEW right now. Maybe cause of his record so far IDK. I need to see that 6 star Kenny.
Still looking forward to Wednesday Night Wrestling so bad.
Emperor Smeat
08-28-2019, 08:41 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rise up for the revolution. <br><br>The Countdown to All Out special is on THIS FRIDAY night at 10/9c on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/HeURJrDdAc">pic.twitter.com/HeURJrDdAc</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling on TNT (@AEWonTNT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT/status/1166841982506848261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jordan
08-29-2019, 09:59 AM
I've been thinking about AEW and the immediate future as far as main story booking goes. I think that AEW is in pretty good shape as far as main events go right now. If they keep a strong story for each of the main guys (Jericho, Cody, Mox, Omega & The Bucks) then I think they can go at a much slower pace than WWE does when it comes to plowing through programs/feuds.
AEW Championship
I'm thinking Jericho has to win this. AEW hasn't done much to build Hangman Page to a point where he should win the Championship first. Plus it will fit right into Jericho's career motif of big time Championships. But where do we go from there? There is supposed to be a AEW Championship on an upcoming episode of AEW on TNT. I'm thinking a possible rematch, Jericho (c) vs Page. Perhaps Jericho cheats to win at ALL OUT and this rematch comes up that way. That seems pretty basic to me so I hope for something else. Jericho vs Spears might be better if Spears looks strong against Cody. However having a former WWE mid carder in the first big time main event on TNT may not be the best look.
I'd go balls to the wall and promote MJF to challenge Jericho for that first AEW Championship defense. I can only imagine how fun that would be. Perhaps MJF saves Cody's ass against Spears and that ends up going towards this shot. Also hopefully a couple of big wins as well. MJF and Jericho on TV would probably be legendary.
It's a bid odd that Omega is hung up with Pac and Mox, I think it will be some time before we see the rematch with Jericho. Whenever the last PPV of the year is I think we will see Jericho vs Omega with Omega taking the AEW Championship.
I've felt that way since the spring, that Jericoh and Omega would rematch for the title and Omega would win. However you could sell me a Jericho year plus long title reign, set the tone for the biggest championship in AEW.
#1-norm-fan
08-29-2019, 11:18 AM
I’d love Jericho to be the first champion. First of all, you’ll only ever have one first champion. It should be a name that will forever put a good look on your title. Secondly, putting the title on a guy and THEN trying to build him up is such a WWE thing to do and it’s the main reason their titles mean shit now. It would be much better to start off with a great heel champion once you start weekly TV and then use the show to build up stars before eventually letting one of them take the title off of him.
That being said, I’m afraid they’re going with Hangman because he seems to be the “chosen one” and the slow burn is a lost art. Really hope they have the ability to think long-term though.
Sepholio
08-29-2019, 11:58 AM
Jericho has to be the first champion. And I think he's going to be champion for awhile. But he's going to be an enhancement champion, if that makes sense. He's going to be booked strong while making other guys look good and AEW is going to use the chase to beat Jericho to build up multiple people to main event/star level in the company before pulling the trigger and having someone beat him. This way you have a bunch of viable contenders for the big title ready once it starts floating around instead of only a small number of guys over enough for the spot light. Makes for a better division in the long run.
Sepholio
08-29-2019, 12:03 PM
Jericho needs to go over Page, Mox, and Cody at least. Probably MJF too. He can lose via shenanigans within the feuds, but in the end he needs to keep the title the whole time. Omega needs to be in the mix with these same people as well and be built up organically during the process. I'd probably throw PAC and a couple others in with some of these guys as well, boost them a bit too. Then eventually pull the trigger on Omega and have him go over Jericho clean af with Jericho trying every dirty trick he can think of in the process and it still not working.
Evil Vito
08-29-2019, 12:54 PM
Can’t wait for Cult of Personality to hit on Saturday only for MJF to walk out
Mr. Nerfect
08-29-2019, 01:18 PM
I’d officially predict Jericho, but Page winning would not shock me.
Damian Rey 2.0
08-29-2019, 06:33 PM
Can’t wait for Cult of Personality to hit on Saturday only for MJF to walk out
Omg I want this so bad just for the heat
Emperor Smeat
08-29-2019, 08:13 PM
I’d love Jericho to be the first champion. First of all, you’ll only ever have one first champion. It should be a name that will forever put a good look on your title. Secondly, putting the title on a guy and THEN trying to build him up is such a WWE thing to do and it’s the main reason their titles mean shit now. It would be much better to start off with a great heel champion once you start weekly TV and then use the show to build up stars before eventually letting one of them take the title off of him.
That being said, I’m afraid they’re going with Hangman because he seems to be the “chosen one” and the slow burn is a lost art. Really hope they have the ability to think long-term though.
Yeah Jericho makes the most sense as the first champ between him and Page.
Had AEW's weekly tv show started a lot sooner, they might have had enough time to build up Page into a credible top star and as a worthy choice for inaugural champion. Without that weekly television exposure, Page hasn't been able to build up his star power to the level of someone like Jericho or The Elite's big name stars.
Jordan
08-30-2019, 08:28 AM
Can’t wait for Cult of Personality to hit on Saturday only for MJF to walk out
That would be brilliant
ClockShot
08-30-2019, 07:30 PM
$60 for the PPV through the cable provider.
Same price as the last time, and still pretty steep. I'd figure they'd knock it down a bit.
I'll buy this time around just so I'm "ready" for when launch comes in October.
Damian Rey 2.0
08-30-2019, 08:48 PM
Watching it at a friend's house and we're splitting the cost. $60 is really steep, tho. If they're only found a handful of ppv shows a yr that's fine. But God helpthem if end up going monthly.
Bad News Gertner
08-30-2019, 10:54 PM
Hey just a warning, if any of you malcontents even THINK about trying anything, I'll edit your posts so fast your heads will spin.
You've been warned.
Fignuts
08-31-2019, 12:46 AM
https://i.imgur.com/iUndjnx.png
xrodmuc316
08-31-2019, 03:42 PM
Yeah Jericho makes the most sense as the first champ between him and Page.
Had AEW's weekly tv show started a lot sooner, they might have had enough time to build up Page into a credible top star and as a worthy choice for inaugural champion. Without that weekly television exposure, Page hasn't been able to build up his star power to the level of someone like Jericho or The Elite's big name stars.
Jericho is the only option. Let's be honest, outside of the small portion of the population that are hardcore wrestling fans who post on message boards (like us), nobody on this roster has name recognition but Chris Jericho.
He is a drunk fat old dbag in real life, but he is still a great performer, and there is zero upside for the company to put the title on a guy who feels like the 5th or 6th best option on their current roster.
Bad News Gertner
08-31-2019, 06:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iUndjnx.png
Just making it known.
I run a tight ship around here.
Frank Drebin
08-31-2019, 06:27 PM
Drebin is almost there. He will have a live report while standing over the beaten body of that MONSTER, Kenton Lane.
Sepholio
08-31-2019, 06:58 PM
I need a stream, I cant do 60 bucks uhg
Why isn’t there a thread?
Mr. Nerfect
09-01-2019, 03:27 AM
The next PPV is November 9 in Baltimore. It's called "Full Gear."
Make the thread and I'll go ahead and sticky it
Vastardikai
09-01-2019, 10:58 AM
I want to see one Orange Cassidy match...
Against Bob Holly.
Mr. Nerfect
09-01-2019, 02:57 PM
Orange Cassidy vs. Brock Lesnar, please.
Emperor Smeat
09-01-2019, 09:03 PM
Seems AEW might have hired Tommy Dreamer to a producer/agent position in the company since he was seen working backstage during last night's All Out show.
Andrew Yang is ALL ELITE
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> - I’m rooting for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> to help make the industry more talent-friendly. <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> ����</p>— Andrew Yang (@AndrewYang) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1168353888493363200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Damian Rey 2.0
09-02-2019, 02:28 AM
He had my vote before. Now, he has my heart.
Droford
09-02-2019, 02:39 PM
Seems AEW might have hired Tommy Dreamer to a producer/agent position in the company since he was seen working backstage during last night's All Out show.
Initially I was going to say that's weird cause he runs HoH but then I thought about how Busted Open is going to be weird
Bully is ROH
Mark Henry still does WWE stuff mostly as an ambassador
Tommy Dreamer is doing AEW, HoH
Simple Fan
09-02-2019, 09:47 PM
Pretty sure Dreamer will work with any company. Also works with Impact.
Emperor Smeat
09-03-2019, 01:17 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m seeing lots of complaints concerning Jericho being “too old” to be AEW World Champ.<br><br>Well, I’ve got a fact for you. Jericho is the youngest AEW World Champ in company history.</p>— Wrestle Features (@WrestleFeatures) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleFeatures/status/1168206515917996032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Doesn't bother me at all, they needed an established name who was not one of the Exec VP's bc they needed star power and Hangman isn't there yet.
Damian Rey 2.0
09-03-2019, 01:31 AM
Agreed. Jericho was their best option. He's a heel, he's over, he's got worldwide credibility and now they can use him to put over whoever they decide is their first babyface champ, who I'm guessing will be Omega.
xrodmuc316
09-03-2019, 02:57 AM
I'm stoked Jericho is champ, he is the biggest star they have.
Of course I don't know if Jericho is cool with it, since if he thinks Lesnar is too old and fat to be a champion, then he must think the same about an older and fatter person being champion.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jericho Has Championship Belt Stolen Or Lost<a href="https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G">https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G</a></p>— Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168987830858764291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
For a special that wasn't really promoted this is good, I didn't think there was much interest in it. Means the actual show could do double or triple that number.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The AEW countdown special from this past Friday night averaged 390,000 viewers on TNT</p>— John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1168983545643184129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
xrodmuc316
09-03-2019, 06:13 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jericho Has Championship Belt Stolen Or Lost<a href="https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G">https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G</a></p>— Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168987830858764291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Holy Shit man!
I know they said no long promos, but the first TNT show should start out with Adam Page cutting a "shoot" promo that he wouldn't have let the title get stolen, and demanding a rematch that very night!
Vastardikai
09-03-2019, 06:28 PM
Make him carry the Women's Title until they find it.
Mr. Nerfect
09-03-2019, 06:47 PM
Jericho probably put it down while doing vodka shots.
Mr. Nerfect
09-03-2019, 06:48 PM
For a special that wasn't really promoted this is good, I didn't think there was much interest in it. Means the actual show could do double or triple that number.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The AEW countdown special from this past Friday night averaged 390,000 viewers on TNT</p>— John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1168983545643184129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Not sure how I feel about that number. It was below average for the slot.
Emperor Smeat
09-03-2019, 07:05 PM
Not for TNT since it doesn't seem whatever TNT had for the 10PM hour the week before cracked the Top 150 based on Showbuzz's chart. Also would put it within the 300k-500k range people are speculating as a safe guess for AEW's weekly show early on.
That special with very little advertising managed to be #29 for the night.
Based on a bit more digging, TNT only cracked the Top 150 one other time last month and that was due to them airing a movie for most of primetime.
It was more than double what usually airs....
#1-norm-fan
09-03-2019, 08:10 PM
Yeah, considering the time slot and the lack of promotion and importance , 390,000 seems like a pretty good sign.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jericho Has Championship Belt Stolen Or Lost<a href="https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G">https://t.co/6Pjhftur1G</a></p>— Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168987830858764291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Is Longhorn really the classiest steak house Tallahassee has to offer? :shifty:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a>, heard some Judas stole your championship belt. We've got plenty of cardboard... want a new one? <a href="https://t.co/V5ErXedVjI">https://t.co/V5ErXedVjI</a></p>— Arby's (@Arbys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/1169007783674617860?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arbys</a>, Im all good. Save the cardboard to make your sandwiches... <a href="https://t.co/kOD58VnaFC">https://t.co/kOD58VnaFC</a></p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1169045516480589824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We take the safety of our guests' property seriously and are doing everything we can to help the local authorities in their efforts. That said, <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> is a champion with or without his belt.</p>— LongHorn Steakhouse (@LongHornSteaks) <a href="https://twitter.com/LongHornSteaks/status/1169006931874406403?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They are totally going to turn this real life thing into a story, making lemonade outta lemons
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS! <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> Champion has Title Belt stolen in grand heist.... <a href="https://t.co/k6K4qxSnt9">pic.twitter.com/k6K4qxSnt9</a></p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1169052081451413504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Simple Fan
09-03-2019, 09:43 PM
Bounty for the Belt will be a future AEW PPV.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This tweet will probably result in some kind of sponsorship that will result in me getting put in an Outback Blooming Onion deathmatch....</p>— Bad Boy Joey Janela (@JANELABABY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1169039347112431617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Emperor Smeat
09-03-2019, 10:31 PM
They are totally going to turn this real life thing into a story, making lemonade outta lemons
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS! <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> Champion has Title Belt stolen in grand heist.... <a href="https://t.co/k6K4qxSnt9">pic.twitter.com/k6K4qxSnt9</a></p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1169052081451413504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jericho launching a worldwide investigation and only wanting the best detectives on the case sounds like a great business opportunity for TPWW's SlikJaw Investigations.
Simple Fan
09-03-2019, 11:06 PM
Would be the perfect time to transition the Librarians into detective gimmicks.
Tom Guycott
09-04-2019, 01:10 AM
I can save you all time and energy. It was Rikishi. He did it... for The Rock.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: Tallahassee Police Department finds <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a>'s stolen championship belt ... <a href="https://t.co/2R0GCkrEiu">pic.twitter.com/2R0GCkrEiu</a></p>— Jeffrey Burlew (@JeffBurlew) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffBurlew/status/1169249331821654016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
xrodmuc316
09-04-2019, 11:23 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: Tallahassee Police Department finds <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a>'s stolen championship belt ... <a href="https://t.co/2R0GCkrEiu">pic.twitter.com/2R0GCkrEiu</a></p>— Jeffrey Burlew (@JeffBurlew) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffBurlew/status/1169249331821654016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
That's a pretty disappointing finish. Thief should have hid the belt in a cave somewhere lol.
Frank Drebin
09-04-2019, 11:34 AM
Rowan stole the belt.
Frank Drebin
09-04-2019, 11:35 AM
Another example of SlikJaw Investigations doing all the leg work and the local cops taking all the credit.
Triple A
09-04-2019, 12:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Case of the Missing <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> Championship Belt takes another turn. The Tallahassee Police Department announces on Facebook it found the belt but hastily deletes the post. <a href="https://twitter.com/TallyPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TallyPD</a> now says it can't confirm the belt was found and calls the case "open and active" ...</p>— Jeffrey Burlew (@JeffBurlew) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffBurlew/status/1169253454457577474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Triple A
09-04-2019, 12:37 PM
Cops prob "found" a replica belt or something from someone trolling
Triple A
09-04-2019, 01:31 PM
I guess it was found... kinda feel like the person running AEW's Twitter account is kinda "dumb" though (lots of typos and stuff in previous posts) so hopefully they are not just basing this on the deleted Facebook post
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Case solved .. thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/TallyPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TallyPD</a> <a href="https://t.co/DOGLBNwxea">pic.twitter.com/DOGLBNwxea</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1169259151618453504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
xrodmuc316
09-04-2019, 02:50 PM
Pretty sure it was Drake Maverick, now he can finally bone his wife ��
Triple A
09-04-2019, 02:51 PM
lol now AEW deleted their post... person who runs the social media account def is a moron
Droford
09-04-2019, 03:10 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m seeing lots of complaints concerning Jericho being “too old” to be AEW World Champ.<br><br>Well, I’ve got a fact for you. Jericho is the youngest AEW World Champ in company history.</p>— Wrestle Features (@WrestleFeatures) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleFeatures/status/1168206515917996032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He's out there losing things while eating dinner.
Evil Vito
09-04-2019, 04:12 PM
Omega/Moxley rescheduled for Full Gear in November
Mr. Nerfect
09-04-2019, 05:49 PM
It was more than double what usually airs....
Do you have a source for this? Ratings information is hard to find. I think the source I used was comparing it to what is usually in that space. The Weather Channel had about 900k. :lol:
Emperor Smeat
09-04-2019, 06:45 PM
Think slik means in regards to TNT which is true at least going back the last two months on Showbuzz.
During that time frame, they only charted 2 other times in the Top 150 and the cutoff for some weeks went as low as 100k. In regards to new or live stuff, last thing that tracked from TNT was a soccer match that did around 168k but that aired at 8PM.
In terms of 10PM comparisons, Showbuzz stated AEW's special was in the average for viewers and demo numbers.
Why would anyone think a last-minute special of rehashed footage, with very little promo, doing almost 400k viewers on a Friday night at 10pm would be a bad thing?
I don't get that, at all.
Curtis
09-04-2019, 08:33 PM
Who moved these? Now it looks like I spammed this thread instead of making fun of the other two threads
Curtis
09-04-2019, 08:34 PM
I guess I gotta delete my posts then
Curtis
09-04-2019, 08:44 PM
I spent a bunch of time coming up with these and some one just buries/deletes them in this thread to make me look bad. Fuck this, coming back to post here was a mistake. I can't escape bullying even when im posting on a freaking wrestling board from like 2001.
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