All Elite Wrestling

[Tom Guycott]

Anyone know about ROH contracts with Scurll and Flip? They need to <s>be in AEW and fill out The Elite</s> take Japan.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgtc.ws/9jNBUiu.png

[Seanny One Ball]

MJF with the spot on Noid impression

[Evil Vito]

Fight for the Fallen is free on B/R Live as well

[#1-norm-fan]

I’m intrigued by MJF’s involvement in this Spears/Cody angle. The obvious endgame seems like it would that he’s just being a suck up and eventually his relationship with Cody will deteriorate when he doesn’t get the favouritism he wants. It already feels like such a fresh, natural story though. Something with more depth than “I’m a heel therefore I’m on the heel’s side” or “I’m a heel and I’m on the face’s side therefore I’m a face now.”

[#1-norm-fan]

Slightly related note regarding heels and faces getting along...

Anyone remember when face Sting and heel Lex Luger were WCW tag champs and Luger would cheat to retain when Sting wasn’t looking? That was pretty great, too.

[Fignuts]

lol when they came out, Luger would look at the fans, disgusted. When Sting turned around he'd start giving high fives and shit. So good.

[Seanny One Ball]

Back when we were kids and wrestling mattered, do you mean... Fagnuts?

[Seanny One Ball]

I mean Fagnuts obv

[Seanny One Ball]

Auto correct now auto correcting to "Fagnuts".

That's bad for business.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fight for the Fallen is free on B/R Live as well

Is weird they aren't charging something for a charity stream. Are they doing some sort of donation thing like Twitch does?

[Sepholio]

man wish I wasn't heading off to vacation on the 13th or id go to fight for the fallen too >_<

[Evil Vito]

Is weird they aren't charging something for a charity stream. Are they doing some sort of donation thing like Twitch does?

I believe they're going to have some fundraiser they'll be advertising, yes.

Also proceeds from the ticket sales are being donated.

[Evil Vito]

Fight for the Fallen is in a 5,000 seat venue and there are still over 1,000 seats left a week before the show.

Then again, look at just about any sports team that plays in Florida, all of them struggle with attendance.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

listening to Cornette's critique of Fyter Fest. All of it is on the money - other than the Omega/Bucks hate.

[Frank Drebin]

Link?

[xrodmuc316]

Fight for the Fallen is in a 5,000 seat venue and there are still over 1,000 seats left a week before the show.

Then again, look at just about any sports team that plays in Florida, all of them struggle with attendance.

That is a fair point. It's why the Rays are looking to play half of their home games in Montreal and the Jaguars are always in relocation rumors.

Then again, the Dolphins, Bucs, and Heat don't have any troubledrawing, so who knows lol.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I believe they're going to have some fundraiser they'll be advertising, yes.

Also proceeds from the ticket sales are being donated.

Being in Khan's domain of Jacksonville I figured they'd do a little better.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think a wrestling epicenter is more important than a “Khan epicenter”. Especially since this is the second show in 2 weeks in Florida. The Meltzer challenge charm can’t last forever. They’re under a crazy amount of pressure to keep it up once weekly TV starts.

[Seanny One Ball]

Link?


Just sign up to the Jim Cornette Experience & Drive Thru podcasts. He savages twice a week.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Dustin Rhodes, he wants to open an official wrestling school for AEW at some point in the future. Currently planning for it to be located in Texas and it would be similar in structure to WWE's Performance Center.

Revealed it during a recent interview he had with the Miami Herald.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think a wrestling epicenter is more important than a “Khan epicenter”. Especially since this is the second show in 2 weeks in Florida. The Meltzer challenge charm can’t last forever. They’re under a crazy amount of pressure to keep it up once weekly TV starts.

This is a great point. I hope they don’t make the mistake of thinking the fans that already give a crap are going to be able to sustain them.

[Volare]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm sure the fans he no-showed at Starrcast want a refund/apology.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This is a great point. I hope they don’t make the mistake of thinking the fans that already give a crap are going to be able to sustain them.

They seem to be falling in that trap. The free shows should have a little biography of the stars before they have their match. Nothing huge but kind of like how WWE interviews the wrestlers when they have the tournaments like the CWC, Mae Young Classic or UK Championship Tournament.

A quick thing that tells who they are and why the fans should care.

Or maybe a quick recap of relevant material from their YouTube on the show or Being the Elite.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems AEW is tweaking their pre-show format since the Buy-In for this Saturday's Fight For The Fallen will be 45 minutes long instead of 1 hour like the past two shows.

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Also based on recent ticket sales, they are around 475 tickets away from reaching sell out status.

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[Sepholio]

If this show was in Miami or Tallahassee or somewhere else in the state it would have sold out by now. Jacksonville is like an hour away from Daytona so they are running 2 shows in basically the same exact market back to back. Plus it's summer, Florida is one of those places where people don't really do indoors activities as much during the summer months; they are at the beaches or the theme parks or outdoor events in general if that makes sense.

I don't mind though if they run a bunch of shows from Jacksonville. I'll be going to a lot of them if that's the case.

[Frank Drebin]

Is it time for All Out yet?

[Bad News Gertner]

lol when they came out, Luger would look at the fans, disgusted. When Sting turned around he'd start giving high fives and shit. So good.

https://i.imgur.com/FCtoAgS.gif

[Tom Guycott]

https://i.imgur.com/FCtoAgS.gif

Luger just loves to have fu... oh, wait, he... yeah, he likes to have f... dammit, keep having fun!!!

[Jordan]

If this show was in Miami or Tallahassee or somewhere else in the state it would have sold out by now. Jacksonville is like an hour away from Daytona so they are running 2 shows in basically the same exact market back to back. Plus it's summer, Florida is one of those places where people don't really do indoors activities as much during the summer months; they are at the beaches or the theme parks or outdoor events in general if that makes sense.

I don't mind though if they run a bunch of shows from Jacksonville. I'll be going to a lot of them if that's the case.

I bet the Jacksonville houses will be bigger once good tv starts on TNT. Southern folk watch tnt.

[Droford]

I bet the Jacksonville houses will be bigger once good tv starts on TNT. Southern folk watch tnt.

TNT is too sophisticated now

[Evil Vito]

I know a lot of people on here weren't fans of Kylie Rae/thought she was way too over the top with her gimmick but it seems something's definitely up with her.

She got a lot of build on BTE, had a featured match on DoN, was announced to face Leva Bates on the Fyter Fest pre-show. But she got replaced with Allie with no warning and Kylie's been completely off of social media for over a month when she's normally quite active.

Hope she's alright.

[Tom Guycott]

I know a lot of people on here weren't fans of Kylie Rae/thought she was way too over the top with her gimmick but it seems something's definitely up with her.

She got a lot of build on BTE, had a featured match on DoN, was announced to face Leva Bates on the Fyter Fest pre-show. But she got replaced with Allie with no warning and Kylie's been completely off of social media for over a month when she's normally quite active.

Hope she's alright.

"Happy" Helga shows up as Bayley's tag team partner. :shifty:

[Jordan]

I think Daniel Bryan is going to 205 live

[Evil Vito]

That will completely change the landscape of AEW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope a Kylie Rae is alright, but she was pretty shit. Her gimmick should be heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m really losing my hope-boner for AEW. I’m really worried that they’re going to shit the bed and that will be it for wrestling. We need something else, sure, but that doesn’t mean we need anything else. I’m worried it’s going to be Anything Else Wrestling.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Huh? Why?

[Evil Vito]

Because Jim Cornette said so.

[erickman]

Because Jim Cornette said so.

we knew 6 months ago he would turn on aew and hate on them by now an say how much they suck.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They've put together a string of really good shows and are building to long term payoffs in August and have booked their best guys strong and logically. I'm not sure how one could be down on such a new product when said product has been objectively good so far.

[Bad News Gertner]

We'll see when they have to do 2 hours of TV a week.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Because Jim Cornette said so.

No, because it feels flat and I don’t agree with their philosophy on certain things. I don’t feel Hangman Page as a top babyface. Cornette is very high on Page. He loves the Buckshot Lariat, but I hate it. But whatever makes you feel better.

They've put together a string of really good shows and are building to long term payoffs in August and have booked their best guys strong and logically. I'm not sure how one could be down on such a new product when said product has been objectively good so far.

Objectively good is a bit of a fucking reach. There’s been A LOT of shit on these shows and most things outside Jericho’s promos and the Cody/Dustin stuff hasn’t hooked me.

Maybe I just hate wrestling now. I still see stuff I fucking love though. It’s always surrounded by stuff that completely disengages me though. MLW is my favourite product too-to-bottom right now, but it doesn’t get me week-to-week.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think you're just jaded. I don't follow any wrestling and I love what I've seen so far. There are several stories going on, and some multilayered, like a Page/MJF feud, MJF and Cody, MJF/Spears and Spears/Cody, Brandi and her relationship with Kong, Moxley/Omega, and the Bucks and Lucha Bros.

God knows what they're gonna do when they're trying week to week, but so far they've built up 4 matches in 3 shows. I think given how limited they've been without tv they're doing just fine. Certainly interested in how All Out plays and how that leads into tv.

[Destor]

Eh wrestling is largely something i dont recognize and what i see isnt good. I get noid. When its done right though there's nothing better.

[Destor]

We'll see when they have to do 2 hours of TV a week.
With the talent pool thats out there in 2019 its going to be difficult. Fewer good workers than ever before...lots of guys with gear though so maybe someone will figure it out.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

We all have opinions. There are things I don't care for so far. But overall I've been impressed with the storytelling and presentation for the main roster guys. Maybe I'm an optimist.

[Emperor Smeat]

I know a lot of people on here weren't fans of Kylie Rae/thought she was way too over the top with her gimmick but it seems something's definitely up with her.

She got a lot of build on BTE, had a featured match on DoN, was announced to face Leva Bates on the Fyter Fest pre-show. But she got replaced with Allie with no warning and Kylie's been completely off of social media for over a month when she's normally quite active.

Hope she's alright.
Recent announcement from Cross Body Pro Wrestling fueled more speculation that her disappearance might be mental health related.

They announced that she suddenly pulled herself out of their upcoming show but made no mention of it being due to injury reasons.

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[Fignuts]

Morbidly ironic that someone with a super bubbly sweet gimmick has mental health issues.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Must be torturous to be bubbly when you feel that bad on the inside. Hope she can bounce back from this. She's really talented.

Also, fuck that promoter making her feel worse by announcing it like that.

"everybody else is making their dates" Fuck you.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah that promoter sounds like an entitled dickhead.

[Evil Vito]

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I popped for the surprise appearance at the end. Spears comes out of this looking like a star. I feel like he needs to go over at All Out or else he'll look like a schmuck who couldn't back up attacking his boss.

[Evil Vito]

I absolutely loved Double or Nothing, really enjoyed Fyter Fest, and I'll openly admit that Fight for the Fallen was by far my least favorite of the three shows they ran. I had fun watching it and all but two big events in two weeks is/was overkill. Kenny/CIMA was the only match from there I'd ever feel the desire to watch again.

Still, I'm intrigued by All Out, and I'd encourage anybody "losing hope" in the company already to at least wait until they get to TV.. I've enjoyed the YouTube builds they've done but I want to see how they are at putting a show together on a weekly basis.

[Jordan]

I agree with you Vito Bro. While it was almost "overkill" with two big events, the bigger cause of issue to me was just Fyter Fest as the 2nd show. A Fighting Game convention. Would be different if it was a year down the line. But following up on of the great all time PPV's with Omega and The Bucks dressed as Street Fighter characters was weak when they could have went strong.

Still I really enjoyed Fyter Fest and I also really liked Fight for the Fallen, the more you see from them (or anyone) the more content you get to choose if you like or don't like so that's just going to happen as time goes on.

[Jordan]

Tony Schavonie is working for AEW guys. He was on the PPV and now he's on BTE.

[Jordan]

Looking back now, one thing AEW should have done was somehow involve Page in the DON main event. Page is coming off a little weak compared to Jericho. Why is Page the chosen one? Would've made sense if they had the title eliminator with Pac but instead he had to win the Outlaw Mud-Show Battle Royal.

[Jordan]

Okay Page channeling Magnum TA on BTE promo. Very good.

[Jordan]

LOL when you rewatch the Cody/Spears chair shot you can see Cody's natural reflex of wanting to put up his hands and then his producers brain edit the impulse and be like "NOPE!".

[Jordan]

"Don't call someone a good hand JR." - Spears. This promo is fucking excellent.

[Jordan]

Shawn fucking Spears. What a moment! Feels like NWA up in herrrrrrrrrr!

[Evil Vito]

Yeah they really bungled things up with PAC. There's no excuse for them to not know that he wasn't going to eat a pin while still Dragongate champion. To just scrap the match instead of trying to find a creative way around it was shit.

[Evil Vito]

I feel like AEW wanted to establish the time limit draws right away (hence them doing one on their second show) and would have done that in Page/PAC but PAC had just worked draws against Ospreay and ZSJ and the crowd booed the shit out of it each time, so they didn't want to risk that type of reaction.

Thing is though, it was transparent that those time limit draws were the result of neither PAC nor Ospreay/ZSJ being allowed to lose per their home promotion. A Page/PAC draw could've been worked into the story. Maybe a ladder match in Jacksonville for the All Out contract.

Page could've won that, PAC doesn't eat a pin, and they build to the match they wanted without having to welch on the literal first match they announced as a company.

[Jordan]

Yeah that make a lot of sense and would've worked great.

[Vastardikai]

So Luchasaurus has won Cornette over.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Spears coming off like a million bucks in that promo. A seemingly passing compliment turned into a story. Good stuff. And it felt like a conversation instead of interview. It didn't feel forced or over produced.

[Volare]

So Luchasaurus has won Cornette over.

1:07:34 is the start of the full review. I got a few chuckles.

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[rez]

Just got back from vacay...must watch FFTF

[Bad News Gertner]

With the talent pool thats out there in 2019 its going to be difficult. Fewer good workers than ever before...lots of guys with gear though so maybe someone will figure it out.

2 hours a week is a lot to fill each week. You can only watch the Young Bucks try to have Triple H Epic's for so long before it gets old. I'm sure it'll start off strong, but it'll be interesting to see where it's at after a few months, or a key injury.

[Evil Vito]

Their early TVs are going to be pretty tournament-heavy it sounds like. The tag tournament is definitely happening but I also suspect there will be a women's tournament as well.

That'll allow them to spotlight a large chunk of their roster in a structured way for the first few shows, which is a smart move. How things go from there though is anybody's guess.

[Jordan]

I love tournaments, single elimination is great for championship crowning but I really hope AEW will do their own round robin like Champion Carnival and G1.

[Bad News Gertner]

Their early TVs are going to be pretty tournament-heavy it sounds like. The tag tournament is definitely happening but I also suspect there will be a women's tournament as well.

That'll allow them to spotlight a large chunk of their roster in a structured way for the first few shows, which is a smart move. How things go from there though is anybody's guess.


Yeah that's what I figured as well. Pretty tournament heavy for the first couple of months.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol also, you can tell JR is getting pissed about people shitting on his commentary from listening to this weeks Grillin With JR. He was especially ornery to the point where I shut off the podcast.

[slik]

Really hope Alex Marvez is gone from commentary for the weekly shows.

[Lock Jaw]

Said it before, but I kind of want their weekly show to feature no wrestling on it, and be less than an hour.

[Evil Vito]

All Elite Wrestling featuring no wrestling wouldn't go over well

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Said it before, but I kind of want their weekly show to feature no wrestling on it, and be less than an hour.

Are you Vince Russo?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think you're just jaded. I don't follow any wrestling and I love what I've seen so far. There are several stories going on, and some multilayered, like a Page/MJF feud, MJF and Cody, MJF/Spears and Spears/Cody, Brandi and her relationship with Kong, Moxley/Omega, and the Bucks and Lucha Bros.

God knows what they're gonna do when they're trying week to week, but so far they've built up 4 matches in 3 shows. I think given how limited they've been without tv they're doing just fine. Certainly interested in how All Out plays and how that leads into tv.

You’re probably right. I loved Cody/Dustin and think MJF is fantastic. I enjoy the idea of the Shawn Spears stuff. I wanted to be psyched by this, but I’ve just fallen wayside. I think once the honeymoon period is over, they’re going to get a shock when they have to be good.

I’m still intrigued by how they do on TV, but I need to take my emotions out of it so I don’t get disappointed, I think.

[#1-norm-fan]

They definitely need to bring all the YouTube content to the weekly show. Those video packages do a better job of building up matches than any in-ring confrontations could. Not showcasing them on the TV show would be a huge mistake.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't watch any of the YouTube stuff because it is "too much work" for an old person like me.... but if it was all just collected and put on TV, and that was their weekly show.... I'd watch that....

Have it like the old whatever show it was where the commentators were in a "newsroom" talking about things and cuing up clips

Then with no wrestling on a weekly basis, I'm much less likely to get tired of it and of the roster.....

[Simple Fan]

So you want a wrestling company to produce a show with no wrestling? That sounds like something WWE is about to with Fox and FS1. I love AEW and BTE YouTube channels but if you're going to TV they need to find a mix between the two, not just focus on one.

You could easily subscribe to those YouTube channels for free and they'd let you know when they post something. What the fuck are you talking about work?

[James Steele]

How hard can it be to write a balanced 2 hour show that features matches and packages/interviews/segments that build characters and further storylines?

[Emperor Smeat]

They definitely need to bring all the YouTube content to the weekly show. Those video packages do a better job of building up matches than any in-ring confrontations could. Not showcasing them on the TV show would be a huge mistake.

The Bucks have mentioned a couple times before that their Being the Elite show very likely will end once tv starts. Road To shows probably going to suffer the same fate since it only exists due to the lack of tv time to build up PPVs.

Been speculated for a while they are going to use a modified or tweaked version of those shows as the creative basis for their weekly tv show.

[Bad News Gertner]

How hard can it be to write a balanced 2 hour show that features matches and packages/interviews/segments that build characters and further storylines?

Pretty hard apparently

[#1-norm-fan]

The Bucks have mentioned a couple times before that their Being the Elite show very likely will end once tv starts. Road To shows probably going to suffer the same fate since it only exists due to the lack of tv time to build up PPVs.

Been speculated for a while they are going to use a modified or tweaked version of those shows as the creative basis for their weekly tv show.

That’s what they should do. I could care less about Being the Elite but the Road to shows are usually like... 15 minutes? You could easily split that up during a 2 hour show to build stories and characters and help prevent overexposing your stars and watering down your in-ring confrontations. Fill the rest of the show with some live promos, some hot midcard matches, a few enhancement matches and an OCCASIONAL legit main event since you’re not doing monthly PPVs and you’ve got a good show that toes the line between “not feeling major enough” and hotshotting everything in a flash.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah that’s a big thing. We don’t need to go back to Attitude Era-esque two minute matches, but there needs to be a happy medium between that and what WWE are doing now. WWE still haven’t worked out why PPVs don’t feel special when they’re putting their top talent in 20 minute matches for free every week.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That’s what they should do. I could care less about Being the Elite but the Road to shows are usually like... 15 minutes? You could easily split that up during a 2 hour show to build stories and characters and help prevent overexposing your stars and watering down your in-ring confrontations. Fill the rest of the show with some live promos, some hot midcard matches, a few enhancement matches and an OCCASIONAL legit main event since you’re not doing monthly PPVs and you’ve got a good show that toes the line between “not feeling major enough” and hotshotting everything in a flash.

You mean they shouldn't give away tag and multi man matches where two guys feuding wrestle and physically interact every week while trading wins before their big showdown?

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah that’s a big thing. We don’t need to go back to Attitude Era-esque two minute matches, but there needs to be a happy medium between that and what WWE are doing now. WWE still haven’t worked out why PPVs don’t feel special when they’re putting their top talent in 20 minute matches for free every week.

They also have 3 hour Raws to fill each week.

[#1-norm-fan]

And a roster of 100+. The 3 hours excuse would carry more weight if they had a small roster at their disposal to fill the time with. More time should equate to more guys up and down the card getting exposure.

The show would still be too long. It’s just no excuse to have to feature the top 5 main event guys against each other every week before doing it on PPV twice a month, too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I am definitely an advocate for shorter TV matches, saving the money load for PPVs and huge events. Gerty is right that WWE can’t do that the same way. This is why AEW, ideally, came around at a perfect time.

One thing I really hope they avoid is booking for the “IWC” though. What does that even mean? There are people in that group that think Matt Hardy spitting magic is awesome but Brock Lesnar is a shit worker. There people who love Joey Ryan but feel that Roman Reigns is hack. You’ve got to be real careful playing to their opinions like they are anything other than divisive and sometimes even just wrong.

[Seanny One Ball]

So Luchasaurus has won Cornette over.



With one gimmick in the ring it's not goofy but with a ring full of gimmicks it's absurd...
That's exactly the opposite of his stance on giants.

I disagree, I think Luchasaurus looks fine both ways. There aren't really any gimmicks that can outdo his look and oddly enough I don't think he looks particularly goofy even with the mask. That battle royal looked shit because the people involved were all doing stupid things one after another and a lot of the gimmicks are just outright bad.

Luchasaurus seems cool enough to avoid looking silly like that. He's a big bastard with a mask that can wrestle and that gets over when the dude looks good.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, Luchasaurus actually stood out to me in the battle royal as more than the clown show going on around him. I didn’t put him on n the same boat as the rest.

[Vastardikai]

My take on the guy was that he can be a huge draw with the kids.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm kind of baffled as to why WWE didn't try this in 1993 to hop on the Jurassic Park gravy train. Maybe they did and decided they couldn't afford to get sued over it...

[James Steele]

Well, remember when WCW tried to jump on the Mortal Kombat train? It isn’t a guaranteed success.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's completely besides the point...

If you're talking about failed gimmicks WWE has the market sewn up on that. I'm talking about the early-mid 90's at possibly the most densely saturated point of gimmickry in WWE history they didn't say fuck it and throw a Luchasaurus in there. He probably would have looked like Barney though.

Actually I'm surprised they didn't get Barney involved.

[#1-norm-fan]

Jurassic Park came out in ‘93. Duke Droese was signed the following year. Could have easily made him Duke “The Dino”. Instead Vince was years behind the times even then and went with “The Dumpster” to take advantage of the garbage man craze started 4 years earlier by the Sheen/Estevez classic “Men at Work”.

[James Steele]

Was really hoping somebody would have posted a Best of Glacier highlight by now.

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember when Glacier became Coach Buzz Stern

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I was barely watching WCW at that point but yes.

[Bad News Gertner]

Was watching a May 1985 episode of Championship Wrestling and came across this match.

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[Seanny One Ball]

Judo Joe looks exactly like Count Dante with a mullet

[Seanny One Ball]

"Black isn't used to holds like this"

*bops face into turnbuckle*

[Seanny One Ball]

Joe's inner monologue must be "Just keep holding your face with one hand, Joe"

[Jordan]

LOL that had to be the guys first time in the ring.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Lol also, you can tell JR is getting pissed about people shitting on his commentary from listening to this weeks Grillin With JR. He was especially ornery to the point where I shut off the podcast.

Was it the Canadian Stampede one? Lol, I noticed him going off on rants for literally no reason and it was one of the more difficult listens especially for a show I really want to hear.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol He goes off on random rants in every episode it seems.

One of the early ones, Conrad was doing one of the anti drinking/texting while driving ads and made the mistake of pitching to JR who, after talking for what seemed like 5 minutes, had ended up discussing some road story that had nothing to do with the ad. Once he was done, Conrad was just like “... So yes, as I was saying, don’t text and drive.”

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol He goes off on random rants in every episode it seems.

One of the early ones, Conrad was doing one of the anti drinking/texting while driving ads and made the mistake of pitching to JR who, after talking for what seemed like 5 minutes, had ended up discussing some road story that had nothing to do with the ad. Once he was done, Conrad was just like “... So yes, as I was saying, don’t text and drive.”

oh I know. But some episodes are worse than others. I think he and Conrad have this really weird chemistry because it's less goofy jokes and more straight talk. And I understand people not liking the show--but J.R. does offer very unique insights. However... episodes are only good if J.R.'s salt levels aren't oceanic.. and more akin to a finely seasoned steak. When he's in a foul mood, you may as well just turn it off right at the beginning.

I do very much understand why Ross is the way he is. Been through A LOT in his life -- and losing Jan is just all kinds of atrocious. Still, I don't need to listen to him randomly start ranting about shit only he understands without any context.

though tbh, I don't get why he's catching flack for AEW commentating. I think it's been some of his better work in years. IMO he should just stay off Twitter for his own sanity.

[Frank Drebin]

Those turnbuckle shots Judo Joe took were powerful af.

[Seanny One Ball]

He's not used to holds like that

[Seanny One Ball]

Frank did you know that Lanny Poffo could suck his own willy?

[Tom Guycott]

Frank did you know that Lanny Poffo could suck his own willy?

"I could never make it."

[Frank Drebin]

Frank did you know that Lanny Poffo could suck his own willy?

Link plz

[Seanny One Ball]

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[Frank Drebin]

He says it like he was pulling a wallet out of his pocket.

[Seanny One Ball]

He reminds me of Robert Baratheon. A fine young warrior turned disgraceful old man.

[Seanny One Ball]

With a huge cock

[Frank Drebin]

I like how he doesn't go into the humiliating parts of trying to suck his own cock. No legs up in the air totally spread eagle with his open asshole winking at the guy he has to perform a rear naked choke with later in the night.

"I just sucked my own cock" he says like he can sit in that very chair and barely even have to bend to get it in there. Is his dick actually just a balloon animal balloon? Is that how he manages to wear normal pants and have the ability to suck his own cock?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OblongWaterloggedJenny-max-1mb.gif

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> debuts on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TNTDrama</a> - Wednesday, October 2nd LIVE from Washington DC’s <a href="https://twitter.com/CapitalOneArena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CapitalOneArena</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AreYouElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AreYouElite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://t.co/W8vg1CcZrw">pic.twitter.com/W8vg1CcZrw</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1154059750264508417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Loose Cannon]

exciting seeing an actual date. got that WCW Nitro debut feel to it.

[Evil Vito]

Now for WWE to put NXT on Fox right up against it

[Loose Cannon]

anybody's contract expire in the next 2 months? could we have another Luger situation here? lol

[Evil Vito]

I don't think so, but I don't really wanna see AEW hire anymore WWE guys lest they turn into TNA 2.0

use what you've already got

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah definitely don't want that. just wondering if they had a "oh shit, i thought he was with WWE" kind of moment up their sleeves for all the casual fans that tune in. But it would have to be a top guy. please no mid card guys like TNA.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah, Tye Dillinger coming in and getting a big push right away was already pretty TNA-like. granted, his promo on Road to All Out was fantastic so I think they can pull it off here but it's not a bridge I want them to cross all the time.

[Fignuts]

In TNA, midcarders from WWE would immediately win the title. AEW is just giving Spears a prominent storyline.

[xrodmuc316]

We have to wait 32 days after All Out for the weekly show JUST so they can debut before Smackdown on Fox???

But the same time Cody is out saying "AEW is not going to focus on WWE"...

Still making inside jokes about Vince and WWE on youtube.

At least TNA was honest about using WWE to gain an audience.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Capital One Arena, site of the first episode of AEW on TNT, was also the site of the last WCW Starrcade event. The Rhodes legacy is strong. <a href="https://t.co/Ko8UsKPcED">https://t.co/Ko8UsKPcED</a></p>&mdash; Dave Schilling (@dave_schilling) <a href="https://twitter.com/dave_schilling/status/1154069319812124672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

I don't think so, but I don't really wanna see AEW hire anymore WWE guys lest they turn into TNA 2.0

use what you've already got

Cody, Jericho, Moxley, Spears, Dustin, Pac, Trent, Awesome King, Brandi, JR, Justin Roberts, Billy Gunn...

Half of their roster is already former WWEers. It's unavoidable. They just need to keep not make it about them being former WWE, which at least on PPV they have. Aside for when they haven't *cough* throne sledgehammer *cough*.

[#1-norm-fan]

We have to wait 32 days after All Out for the weekly show JUST so they can debut before Smackdown on Fox???

But the same time Cody is out saying "AEW is not going to focus on WWE"...

... Or October 2nd is just the date TNT gave them to start on.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No they clearly are trying to hurt WWE....by airing on a weekly date WWE isn't on...

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't think so, but I don't really wanna see AEW hire anymore WWE guys lest they turn into TNA 2.0

use what you've already got

The problem with TNA was that they were still hiring WWE midcarders and making them main eventers a decade into their existence when they had more than enough time to build up their own stars.

I don’t see a problem with a new company acquiring the best talent possible whether they’re former WWE guys or not. In 5 years, if they haven’t grown and built stars and they’re hiring WWE midcarders and giving them super pushes over their own guys, THEN there’s an issue.

[Evil Vito]

Moxley was asked if he would ever go back to WWE. He said the typical line is never say never and he said who knows in 10, 15 years, anything is possible. However he did say he would rather go work for a grocery store than return to the WWE that he left.

[Emperor Smeat]

... Or October 2nd is just the date TNT gave them to start on.

Also smartly gives TNT about a month's worth of AEW content to help entice potential new advertisers to the network for November's sweeps.

FOX doesn't really need to do the same since WWE is already a known and established quantity in television.

[Triple A]

We have to wait 32 days after All Out for the weekly show JUST so they can debut before Smackdown on Fox???

But the same time Cody is out saying "AEW is not going to focus on WWE"...

Still making inside jokes about Vince and WWE on youtube.

At least TNA was honest about using WWE to gain an audience.

New TV shows/seasons debut on networks' fall lineups in late September / early October.

[Tom Guycott]

exciting seeing an actual date. got that WCW Nitro debut feel to it.

So, does that mean Lex Luger is going to show up? That's just unabashed arrogance!

[Tom Guycott]

Yeah, Tye Dillinger coming in and getting a big push right away was already pretty TNA-like. granted, his promo on Road to All Out was fantastic so I think they can pull it off here but it's not a bridge I want them to cross all the time.

Kinda feel like this is a different beast, albeit knowing more shit than I should colors him a bit of a better light. I still remember an interview about him in NXT where Dusty labled him with "why is he still here?"; as in, there was nothing else to "develop" and he already had everything down so why the fuck isn't he being called up? And obviously Dusty was still alive when that was said. For him to be as talented as he supposedly is yet sit in NXT for a couple more years, and then be squandered on the main roster with a couple of obligatory 10 positions in the Royal Rumble seems like it should be considered a huge waste of money and time for all parties involved.

Seems less like TNA featuring whatever WWE future endeavor castoff of the month as the next main eventer to something more akin to Derrick Bateman becoming ECIII and being able to get a much needed makeover and a clear career path. He was given the role and push of a lifetime, but he was also able to take that ball and run with it. And of course, WWE gets him back for a big NXT re-debut and then proceeds to do nothing of note with him again.

But back on Tye/Shawn... I'm interested to see how he can spread his wings as a heel and I'm super interested in this Tully direction. "This interview needs to be over" has quickly become a new favorite phrase, and is this going to be a Lesnar/Heyman thing or is this the beginning of a yet to be established stable?

[slik]

TV Guide photoshoot


https://i.imgur.com/Gjdx7Fr.jpg

[Volare]

Good photo.

[Loose Cannon]

lol looks like a new ABC drama called "Oceanside Lane"

[Emperor Smeat]

AEW's current plans in regards to PPVs, house shows tours, and work load for the roster.

The goal right now is to run 100 to 120 live events per year, probably four PPVs, 51 television shows and many Saturday night house shows and on occasion more than one house show a week, but with the idea that in spreading the talent out, the top talent does maybe 75 matches, a number hopeful to keep their ability to work great matches high, since that’s probably more of a key goal is high match quality on top as compared with any other promotion

[Droford]

I might have to figure a way to go to DC, thats pretty spiffy

[Frank Drebin]

TV Guide photoshoot


https://i.imgur.com/Gjdx7Fr.jpg

WELFARE QUEEN!!!

[Tom Guycott]

Is that Nakazawa behind Kong? I only ask because here he looks like a love child of 2 Cold Scorpio. Guess "Todd is God" in Japan, too.

[Mr. JL]

To be honest.

I've actually felt let down by the AEW product with the Fyter Fest and Fight for the Fallen.

If I compare it to current WWE product I'm like Oh! MY! FUCKING! GOD! this is awesome but I am a tad older and remember when certain moves, finishers were sacred.

There have been plenty of times where I feel old and am like, "These guys need to fucking sell these moves!" then kickout, match continues and something else crazy happens 30 seconds later. KICKOUT!

For example:
Hangman Adam Page over the top rope powerbombed Kip "Essentially Nobody" Sabian to the stage to a thunderous reaction. Match should have been fucking over if selling meant a damn thing but it wasn't and Adam Page immediately followed it up with a swinging TOP ROPE neck-breaker to an immediate pinfall which was kicked out of with way too much enthusiasm. Kip springboarded off the top rope with ease a minute later. The eventual finish was mediocre compared to the reaction of this series of moves.

But Damn! How much more impressive would it have been if HANGMAN Adam Page just countout Super Powerbombed his way into the Chris Jericho match?

I don't know, some of this AEW stuff just feels way too much like 2002-2004 TNA X Division opening match 6 man stuff where you have flippy dippy no sell practice but to a further extreme.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, there’s more of an early TNA vibe to AEW than a lot of people want to admit. Cody is what gives me hope. I like to think he’s got a mind for the business and with time, hopefully he can weed out the WWE-lite bullshit from the product. I feel like he might be too nice and wanna just let his friends have free reign at this point.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah WAY too much goofy bullshit for my liking, but it's still better than anything WWE tbh

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh, by a fucking mile.

[Jordan]

I feel that some AEW flip floppers area little "backyard" so I hope they lose that and as well do away with the comedy attempts.

[Loose Cannon]

yeah the comedy BS (whether it be with words or in the ring) needs to go. and that's every wrestling company. I mean you can have your comedy characters and a few segments, but i feel like almost every segment is written to have some sort of humor. it's annoying. That Roman Reigns/Joe segment is an example. I don't want to see Reigns and Joe going back and forth with lame jokes on each other. everyone tries to be funny these days and it gets old

[Seanny One Ball]

I wonder if the Stone Cold Stunner is responsible in any way for the death of the "Rude Awakening" style neckbreaker as a finish? Swinging neckbreakers are pure aesthetics but the classic always looks legit.
Somebody should have an oldschool gimmick where they do lots of mat wrestling in their matches, a little bit of brawling and only ever win with "classic" devastating wrestling moves like the superplex, neckbreaker, atomic drop(probably as a set up to a fist, knee or elbow drop) and stuff like that. It must have been done before. I don't mean Kurt Angle style, that was too high tempo. Get a guy who can slow it right down and work a leg for ten minutes.

[#1-norm-fan]

I’ve actually thought about the idea of a company that goes TOO far treating everything like it’s legit again. Not giving so much as a hint in public. Having nothing but “old school” mat wrestling matches. Going out of their way to be in character while in public. And I don’t mean Ronda calling Becky Lynch by her real name and breaking kayfabe. I mean Becky Lynch IS her real name. And if you try to tell her it isn’t, she doesn’t know or care what the fuck you’re talking about.

It could actually be amazing. A hilarious niche for the new school fans but at the same time, everything an old school fan could ask for.

[Seanny One Ball]

The day that guy won an MMA match with a Boston Crab proved that it wouldn't be hard to blur the lines again. That was a great moment for a wrestling fan my age.

[Seanny One Ball]

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The guy he does it to probably shouldn't have been in there. He can't even crawl away.

[Frank Drebin]

To be honest.

I've actually felt let down by the AEW product with the Fyter Fest and Fight for the Fallen.

They were practically house shows. That was intentional. They were both free for fucks sake. What do you want them to do? Blow their load on a charity event and have nothing left for the PPV and TV debut?

If I compare it to current WWE product I'm like Oh! MY! FUCKING! GOD! this is awesome but I am a tad older and remember when certain moves, finishers were sacred.

There have been plenty of times where I feel old and am like, "These guys need to fucking sell these moves!" then kickout, match continues and something else crazy happens 30 seconds later. KICKOUT!

For example:
Hangman Adam Page over the top rope powerbombed Kip "Essentially Nobody" Sabian to the stage to a thunderous reaction. Match should have been fucking over if selling meant a damn thing but it wasn't and Adam Page immediately followed it up with a swinging TOP ROPE neck-breaker to an immediate pinfall which was kicked out of with way too much enthusiasm. Kip springboarded off the top rope with ease a minute later. The eventual finish was mediocre compared to the reaction of this series of moves.

But Damn! How much more impressive would it have been if HANGMAN Adam Page just countout Super Powerbombed his way into the Chris Jericho match?

I don't know, some of this AEW stuff just feels way too much like 2002-2004 TNA X Division opening match 6 man stuff where you have flippy dippy no sell practice but to a further extreme.

Stop watching only the Young Bucks.

Seriously though, I get what you're saying and I can get behind some of it. They've had brawls n stuff too like Cody/Dustin so it's not like the Buck's style rules the roost. Got to have a little variation in the match type to reel in various types of fans and keep things fresh so it isn't a standard Raw tv match.

[Triple A]

Big fan of the "guy with no legs" stuff and other things like that, hope they continue to do it and don't listen to the people who "hate it"

[Frank Drebin]

Look, they've got word of mouth and more momentum behind them than anyone has ever seen since the deaths of WCW/ECW to counter WWF/E. Just enjoy the ride for now and see how far they can take this.

[Frank Drebin]

Big fan of the "guy with no legs" stuff and other things like that, hope they continue to do it and don't listen to the people who "hate it"

If the dude can entertain, put him on camera. If we can endure year after year of Hornswoggle antics/matches this guy should be given a shot to do something people have yet to see.

[Emperor Smeat]

Stop watching only the Young Bucks.

Seriously though, I get what you're saying and I can get behind some of it. They've had brawls n stuff too like Cody/Dustin so it's not like the Buck's style rules the roost. Got to have a little variation in the match type to reel in various types of fans and keep things fresh so it isn't a standard Raw tv match.

Even the Bucks showed they can change up their style whenever needed in AEW. Their match against the Rhodes Bros was a lot less flippy and slower paced than people associate with their matches.

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah. They can do it if they want which is what's frustrating about them to alot of people.

I don't love em or hate em but if I had to use a Bucks match for a bathroom break I wouldn't think I was missing out on much I haven't seen before.

[Frank Drebin]

Can either Kong still go or if they have a match at All Out is it just going to be female Taker/Goldberg?

Kharma one of the things I wished worked out more than alot in recent memory. Was so pissed off when they were doing everything I ever dreamed with her only for her to have to leave suddenly.

[Seanny One Ball]

That legless guy is pure bullshit, watching him scramble around and awkwardly bump off the rope to do the least graceful acrobatics I have ever seen is embarrassing and if I feel that way there have to be plenty of his colleagues that do too.

The morbidly obese guy and the guy that's half the size of Jungle Boy belong in the unemployed wannabe wrestler line with him. Someone will get badly hurt or will badly hurt somebody trying to work around them.

[Frank Drebin]

That legless guy is pure bullshit, watching him scramble around and awkwardly bump off the rope to do the least graceful acrobatics I have ever seen is embarrassing and if I feel that way there have to be plenty of his colleagues that do too.

The morbidly obese guy and the guy that's half the size of Jungle Boy belong in the unemployed wannabe wrestler line with him. Someone will get badly hurt or will badly hurt somebody trying to work around them.

Isn't all of this pure bullshit?

[Seanny One Ball]

It was pretty fucking funny when MJF corner stomped him and called him Lieutenant Dan but that's the most you should ever use a gimmick like that.

[Seanny One Ball]

Isn't all of this pure bullshit?


My opinion or the nature of pro wrestling?

[Frank Drebin]

#2

[Frank Drebin]

It was pretty fucking funny when MJF corner stomped him and called him Lieutenant Dan but that's the most you should ever use a gimmick like that.

MJF easily most breakout star potential. Like you took the Miz and Del Rio and made it even better on the mic.

[#1-norm-fan]

If Marko Stunt, or the legless guy or even Joey Janela were in one of those backyard videos that are often posted here, we’d all be having a laugh. If anyone called for them to be signed by a company and wrestle on a major cable network, it would clearly be meant as a joke.

[Frank Drebin]

Its a carnival act. There's a place for them in small doses.

[Triple A]

Marko Stunt is amazing, love him

[Seanny One Ball]

I hope somebody shoots on the legless guy and busts his arm.

That's what Ole Anderson would do.

[Seanny One Ball]

If he was around in the 80's they could have stuck him on a big guy's shoulders and done Master Blaster from Mad Max 3: Beyond Thunderdome. They had Lord Humongous from Mad Max 2....

[Seanny One Ball]

They still could but they'd probably use a real mentally disabled guy and then it would be even more tasteless but almost progressive in a way.

[Droford]

Zach Gowen vs Dustin Thomas in a prosthetic legs on a pole match

[RP]

I'm not sure AEW will ever reach the intensity level of the greatest trampoline match ever. Don Danger could have been the greatest of all time if it werent for the meth.

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

yeah the comedy BS (whether it be with words or in the ring) needs to go. and that's every wrestling company. I mean you can have your comedy characters and a few segments, but i feel like almost every segment is written to have some sort of humor. it's annoying. That Roman Reigns/Joe segment is an example. I don't want to see Reigns and Joe going back and forth with lame jokes on each other. everyone tries to be funny these days and it gets old

The last wrestling - to me - that was actually funny was WWF in 2000 when Foley was commish and interplaying with Edge and Christian and the likes. Rock ofc was funny too. Also, a bit past that with Austin as unhinged alliance heel was hilarious.

But that stuff wasn't people trying to come across as funny. It was true to their characters and came off as natural. Now it's just guys trying really hard with shitty attempts at lame 'zingers' that never ever land. Or it's overly elaborate, orchestrated hokey bullshit.

What bothers me with the Bucks and Omega is they think it's like high art and because their sample-sized group of weeny virgin fan pops for the lame shit, they should keep doing it. Hopefully they wake up.

[RP]

JD Staxx has the most majestic choke hold in the business.

[Jordan]

At the begining of AEW we.were hyped on a sports presentation. I think a lot of people are quickly turned off by seeing humor like WWE does and worse. The Librarians are an example of a complete fail from the begining. I don't want to hear Jr talk about anything to do with Vince, I don't want Cody to talk about Triple H. I just want a good product that has NOTHING to do with Vince or his product style.

Leave the Vince comedy to Vince.

[Jordan]

And if they don't deliver that then I'll just watch NJPW.

[#1-norm-fan]

The last wrestling - to me - that was actually funny was WWF in 2000 when Foley was commish and interplaying with Edge and Christian and the likes. Rock ofc was funny too. Also, a bit past that with Austin as unhinged alliance heel was hilarious.

But that stuff wasn't people trying to come across as funny. It was true to their characters and came off as natural. Now it's just guys trying really hard with shitty attempts at lame 'zingers' that never ever land. Or it's overly elaborate, orchestrated hokey bullshit.

What bothers me with the Bucks and Omega is they think it's like high art and because their sample-sized group of weeny virgin fan pops for the lame shit, they should keep doing it. Hopefully they wake up.

I always thought Santino was funny, too. He’s the only guy post 2000-ish who actually made me laugh with WWE comedy.

[Seanny One Ball]

Edge and Christian definitely were trying to be funny, Kurt and Stone Cold too.
The reason it was natural and in-character is that they were either ad libs or they were working within a structure rather than a whole pre-written speech from some writer.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Edge and Christian definitely were trying to be funny, Kurt and Stone Cold too.
The reason it was natural and in-character is that they were either ad libs or they were working within a structure rather than a whole pre-written speech from some writer.

you took what I said too literally. I mean more it flowed naturally with who they were instead of them trying to be the "funny guy" with some lame, overly orchestrated gag or zinger.

[Vastardikai]

I do not believe that they will progress or grow with PWG horse shit. There is a market for their shenanigans, but it won't sustain them long term. At some point, cuts will be made, at will be with the Bucks and Omega.

[Seanny One Ball]

you took what I said too literally. I mean more it flowed naturally with who they were instead of them trying to be the "funny guy" with some lame, overly orchestrated gag or zinger.

Yeah that's fair, I was walking after I wrote that and thought "maybe he meant they weren't forcing it".

My apologies.

[Frank Drebin]

I always thought Santino was funny, too. He’s the only guy post 2000-ish who actually made me laugh with WWE comedy.

Yeah, when he put on a dress and was Santina I was all :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: classic Santino. I miss those dayz.

[Frank Drebin]

Because men putting on a dress is funny.

[Seanny One Ball]

Some people just enjoy that sort of thing.
I think we used to call them idiots.

[Seanny One Ball]

Poofters

[Seanny One Ball]

It was poofters

[#1-norm-fan]

Personally, I’m more of a “stealing Jerry Lawler’s Subway” Santino fan but when he interviewed Santina via satellite and she kept answering his questions long after he’d been interrupted... that was pretty great. The guy was a natural entertainer. Probably the best comedy wrestler ever.

[Evil Vito]

I said this before but I think the WWE Idol segment with Santino, William Regal, Ron Simmons, Lilian Garcia, and others might be the best standalone comedy segment WWE have ever done.

[#1-norm-fan]

I have no idea what segment you’re talking about but Santino and Regal both being hilarious human beings makes me think you’re probably right.

[Evil Vito]

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Crappy quality but still funny. This also marked the official beginning of Santino's heel turn.

[Seanny One Ball]

Personally, I’m more of a “stealing Jerry Lawler’s Subway” Santino fan but when he interviewed Santina via satellite and she kept answering his questions long after he’d been interrupted... that was pretty great. The guy was a natural entertainer. Probably the best comedy wrestler ever.




A beautifully baited post.

A+

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I have no idea what segment you’re talking about but Santino and Regal both being hilarious human beings makes me think you’re probably right.

I forgot to give Regal props for being one of the funniest people in wrestling.

[Jordan]

I'm about to post a video which displays the worst kind of wrestling there is. And I will say that if AEW pushes this style, it will fail. There is an element of Lucha that has leaked it's way into our style here in the US, and even Japan. Now, I love Lucha Libre, I prefer it self contained because it is a totally different style and product than I grew up on with WWF, WCW, and ECW. Even the Lucha Libre in WCW was altered to fit into the psychology of a traditional American match.

If AEW keeps their women working like this, I can't support it. There are some good female workers out there, but not as many as a lot of the internet thinks. Tessa, Charlotte, Becky, Auska, Kairi Sane, Alexa... they can work work. They can come off as two people looking for a win. Most of the women's wrestling I see is slow motion choreography, a whole lot of effort for very little effect.

The way that people use Lucha to transition through a match is generally atrocious, as seen here.

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[Fignuts]

That's what I was saying a week or so ago. They try and do this stuff but it looks like slow motion, because they haven't developed the skill to do it effortlessly as it's meant to be done.

That's why that style works when done right. Because a lot of it is based on speed and momentum. When you're doing it at half speed it just looks stupid. See: John Cena when he started trying to do Code Red/Yoshitonic

[Fignuts]

Also, Hikaru Shida might be the only one in AEW that's on the same level as Charlotte, Asuka, Io, Ember, Bianca, and Kairi. The women I feel are on another level from everyone else in ring.

That's why I was so bummed about WWE meeting with Stardom instead of AEW. AEW needs it a lot more. And a lot of the other Joshi promotions just aren't as good. They typically have a couple good workers and everyone else are 12 year olds. Stardom meanwhile, has entire stables of badass wrestlers and working with AEW would have really helped their women's division. Which absolutely needs help right now.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm about to post a video which displays the worst kind of wrestling there is. And I will say that if AEW pushes this style, it will fail. There is an element of Lucha that has leaked it's way into our style here in the US, and even Japan. Now, I love Lucha Libre, I prefer it self contained because it is a totally different style and product than I grew up on with WWF, WCW, and ECW. Even the Lucha Libre in WCW was altered to fit into the psychology of a traditional American match.

If AEW keeps their women working like this, I can't support it. There are some good female workers out there, but not as many as a lot of the internet thinks. Tessa, Charlotte, Becky, Auska, Kairi Sane, Alexa... they can work work. They can come off as two people looking for a win. Most of the women's wrestling I see is slow motion choreography, a whole lot of effort for very little effect.

The way that people use Lucha to transition through a match is generally atrocious, as seen here.

Think it was Sasha Banks who explained why stuff like that tends to happen a lot in women's matches and why lucha style has become very influential in women's wrestling.

Its mostly just them over-thinking the big spots both out of fear of having the crowd quickly turn on them if they mess up and taking into account the possible skills gap between wrestlers. At least in WWE, a difference in booking mentality and match layout would also be a factor.

In regards to why that form of lucha has become very influential in women's wrestling, its pretty much because of how effective its been at generating big crowd pops and also because of the quality gap with traditional wrestling training between men and women.

[mike adamle]

Hopefully Sasha Banks goes the same route as Paige and just starts doing porn

[Mr. Nerfect]

They were practically house shows. That was intentional. They were both free for fucks sake. What do you want them to do? Blow their load on a charity event and have nothing left for the PPV and TV debut?

Why can’t they just put on good wrestling? Why does something need to be shit just because? And not charging for it is not an excuse to not try. And they didn’t charge for it because they couldn’t get away with it.

Stop watching only the Young Bucks.

Seriously though, I get what you're saying and I can get behind some of it. They've had brawls n stuff too like Cody/Dustin so it's not like the Buck's style rules the roost. Got to have a little variation in the match type to reel in various types of fans and keep things fresh so it isn't a standard Raw tv match.

You don’t need to have your philosophy all over the map. It’s just not true. You don’t need an action film interrupted by a musical number. You just don’t need to do it. I’m more frustrated that they seem to know what is good and how that emotionally hooks people. But then they just...choose not too.

Look, they've got word of mouth and more momentum behind them than anyone has ever seen since the deaths of WCW/ECW to counter WWF/E. Just enjoy the ride for now and see how far they can take this.

That’s by default though. And that’s what I’ve always supported about them. The Khans have got the money to actually do this. My concern is that when their stuff gets out there and let’s say it flops — we’ll have another period where it is only WWE. That is why it is heartbreaking to think about how WCW fucked up.

They’ve got this golden opportunity, and if they miss it, I’m worried that no one else is going to try. If they succeed, maybe someone else will invest and then we can get AEW vs. something else. Maybe something better or just something different?

If the dude can entertain, put him on camera. If we can endure year after year of Hornswoggle antics/matches this guy should be given a shot to do something people have yet to see.

I don’t see how WWE doing something bad means we have to like it when someone else does something bad. I just don’t get that at all.

Isn't all of this pure bullshit?

You can say that about anything though. Aren’t movies just bullshit? Guess we shouldn’t try and make a good one. Sorry if it sounds like I’m picking on you, but the apologetics for AEW coming off like a wannabe WWE in certain ways is pretty wild.

Shit like The Librarians, whatever the fuck that means, is easily as bad, possibly even worse, than WWE shit. It’s fucking atrocious. If that was a WWE gimmick, everyone would roast it and you know it.

I want them to do well. My fandom kind of needs them to. But I’m fucking terrified that they’re going to get the world watching and there will be lots of bad comedy and “look at us being too cool to try” shit and the first wave of reviews are going to be “more of the same.” People are forgetting that just having good wrestling is even possible.

[Simple Fan]

How have people not realized that The Librarian stuff is a shot at WWE? Its supposed to suck and be like a WWE gimmick, that's the point.

[Jordan]

How have people not realized that The Librarian stuff is a shot at WWE? Its supposed to suck and be like a WWE gimmick, that's the point.

That isn't overtly obvious, not at all. And even if it was, or is true, it doesn't excuse it. It's still bad. Why would you take up your time "tribute mocking" WWE with a gimmick that has no literal connection at all to WWE. I see how you are making it make sense to yourself but I think it's shit.

[#1-norm-fan]

Even if that is the case, making part of your show suck intentionally and be a worse version of WWE just to take a “shot” at WWE doesn't exactly make it better. In fact, it’s much worse.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh. Jordan gets it.

WWE is bad because it’s basically become a bad parody of wrestling. Making a bad parody of a bad parody doesn’t cancel out the bad.

[Simple Fan]

That isn't overtly obvious, not at all. And even if it was, or is true, it doesn't excuse it. It's still bad. Why would you take up your time "tribute mocking" WWE with a gimmick that has no literal connection at all to WWE. I see how you are making it make sense to yourself but I think it's shit.

Been pretty obvious I think. Especially the stuff they've done with it on BTE. Yeah it still sucks but that is kind of the point I believe. I don't get why they feel like they have to take shots at WWE but they do.

[Jordan]

Been pretty obvious I think. Especially the stuff they've done with it on BTE. Yeah it still sucks but that is kind of the point I believe. I don't get why they feel like they have to take shots at WWE but they do.

I don't watch every BTE, more than half I'd say. I don't care about The Librarians anymore from seeing them there vs the AEW shows we've seen so far.

I was one of the few that loved the Cody hammering the throne. I thought it was more Game of Thrones than WWE, but that was just my perception. I wish that would have been "it", as far as mentioning WWE.

[Simple Fan]

I thought the throne thing was the dumbest spot they've done yet. Good thing Cody and Dustin delivered after it because it came out of nowhere and took me away from the match about to happen.

[Jordan]

Onto another criticism...

I am quite doubtful that anyone will be able to sell out NBA arena's right now, consistently with pro wrestling. I am understanding of the DC Venue, it's the first show and it should sell out but I think they will run into a lot of places they can't pull over 2,000 for a TV show. I could be wrong but I wish AEW would seek out the Walters Pyrmid's of the country before doing what WWE does and selling 3,000 tickets in a 15,000 seat venue.

[slik]

I think 3-5k arenas would be a good fit for AEW right now.

Daily's Place looked great on camera with only 5k fans for Fight For The Fallen and I think doing the show in more amphitheaters is a possible idea to pursue for AEW.

[slik]

Ticket prices for first TV episode revealed. Cheapest seat is $20 and most expensive is ringside $250 + commemorative chair.

[Simple Fan]

I agree and its been reported that they are looking at doing 6000-12000 seat venues I believe. With the premier and other markets bring an exception.

[slik]

Excellent Hire

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[Droford]

I think 3-5k arenas would be a good fit for AEW right now.

Daily's Place looked great on camera with only 5k fans for Fight For The Fallen and I think doing the show in more amphitheaters is a possible idea to pursue for AEW.

I think they could draw well in large arenas in the Northeast (Philly Baltimore DC Boston etc,).

I'd love them to come to my city the local arena can hold 5,000 and used to sell out for WCW Nitro and Thunder but it's small so it'd depend on the size of the tv set stage

[Emperor Smeat]

How have people not realized that The Librarian stuff is a shot at WWE? Its supposed to suck and be like a WWE gimmick, that's the point.

Its also rumored to have another reason for its existence.

Been speculated ever since the gimmick debuted that the payoff is going to be Marty Scurll breaking the Librarians fingers to be his official debut in AEW and the end of that gimmick. The most annoying part of the gimmick is them using their finger to shush everyone and the thing Marty likes the most is breaking fingers of people he hates.

[Jordan]

I think they could draw well in large arenas in the Northeast (Philly Baltimore DC Boston etc,).

I'd love them to come to my city the local arena can hold 5,000 and used to sell out for WCW Nitro and Thunder but it's small so it'd depend on the size of the tv set stage

What city?

[Jordan]

Its also rumored to have another reason for its existence.

Been speculated ever since the gimmick debuted that the payoff is going to be Marty Scurll breaking the Librarians fingers to be his official debut in AEW and the end of that gimmick. The most annoying part of the gimmick is them using their finger to shush everyone and the thing Marty likes the most is breaking fingers of people he hates.

That would be huge tbh and if they go that way then I can suffer through it. But he's gotta break both her fingers and his!

[Frank Drebin]

Why can’t they just put on good wrestling? Why does something need to be shit just because? And not charging for it is not an excuse to not try. And they didn’t charge for it because they couldn’t get away with it.



You don’t need to have your philosophy all over the map. It’s just not true. You don’t need an action film interrupted by a musical number. You just don’t need to do it. I’m more frustrated that they seem to know what is good and how that emotionally hooks people. But then they just...choose not too.



That’s by default though. And that’s what I’ve always supported about them. The Khans have got the money to actually do this. My concern is that when their stuff gets out there and let’s say it flops — we’ll have another period where it is only WWE. That is why it is heartbreaking to think about how WCW fucked up.

They’ve got this golden opportunity, and if they miss it, I’m worried that no one else is going to try. If they succeed, maybe someone else will invest and then we can get AEW vs. something else. Maybe something better or just something different?



I don’t see how WWE doing something bad means we have to like it when someone else does something bad. I just don’t get that at all.



You can say that about anything though. Aren’t movies just bullshit? Guess we shouldn’t try and make a good one. Sorry if it sounds like I’m picking on you, but the apologetics for AEW coming off like a wannabe WWE in certain ways is pretty wild.

Shit like The Librarians, whatever the fuck that means, is easily as bad, possibly even worse, than WWE shit. It’s fucking atrocious. If that was a WWE gimmick, everyone would roast it and you know it.

I want them to do well. My fandom kind of needs them to. But I’m fucking terrified that they’re going to get the world watching and there will be lots of bad comedy and “look at us being too cool to try” shit and the first wave of reviews are going to be “more of the same.” People are forgetting that just having good wrestling is even possible.

Alot to unpack here and I'm on mobile so I'm not going to hit on everything.

I thought the last two show were really good and they did it without blowing anything to be used for All Out or TNT. They just needed to keep people talking about them heading up to their big events. It was fine. Why were either of them bad?

If they blow this then yes, it will be "only" WWE again until someone else decides to invest money into a wrestling promotion. I hope Bash is still alive.

[Mr. Nerfect]

How have people not realized that The Librarian stuff is a shot at WWE? Its supposed to suck and be like a WWE gimmick, that's the point.

I'll let #1-wwf-fan handle this much more eloquently than me.

Even if that is the case, making part of your show suck intentionally and be a worse version of WWE just to take a “shot” at WWE doesn't exactly make it better. In fact, it’s much worse.

Exactly. Being shit on purpose is still being shit. Fuck that shit.

Been pretty obvious I think. Especially the stuff they've done with it on BTE. Yeah it still sucks but that is kind of the point I believe. I don't get why they feel like they have to take shots at WWE but they do.

I'm not watching BTE. I find their personalities largely obnoxious. I want to watch wrestling. If the wrestling doesn't explain it, and the explanation itself isn't good, then fuck it. The onus is not on fans to go out of their way to understand what is trying to be conveyed.

I thought the throne thing was the dumbest spot they've done yet. Good thing Cody and Dustin delivered after it because it came out of nowhere and took me away from the match about to happen.

The throne spot was fine. Symbolism that tied in who Cody is to his AEW gimmick and what AEW is representing. Perfectly fine.

Its also rumored to have another reason for its existence.

Been speculated ever since the gimmick debuted that the payoff is going to be Marty Scurll breaking the Librarians fingers to be his official debut in AEW and the end of that gimmick. The most annoying part of the gimmick is them using their finger to shush everyone and the thing Marty likes the most is breaking fingers of people he hates.

That's awful. The finger breaking spot is dumb in itself. Also, having a long set-up to an awful punchline that also has a guy breaking a woman's fingers because she's annoying is pretty trashy.

As far as venues go:

I'm fine with them going wherever they can fill up. Part of the appeal of AEW's potential is that they are a promotion with the capital behind it to fill arenas. That makes it different to TNA or ROH or New Japan. It changes the perception of the promotion instantly and almost changes the medium. And I think that is going to betray itself more and more as certain guys prove they can work larger arenas whereas some guys are small, intimate space guys.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Alot to unpack here and I'm on mobile so I'm not going to hit on everything.

I thought the last two show were really good and they did it without blowing anything to be used for All Out or TNT. They just needed to keep people talking about them heading up to their big events. It was fine. Why were either of them bad?

If they blow this then yes, it will be "only" WWE again until someone else decides to invest money into a wrestling promotion. I hope Bash is still alive.

The Librarians stuff is bad because it's an awful and childish attempt at comedy, way too similar to WWE. Feels very rinky dink too. Why are there even libarians in a wrestling promotion? Why are they enemies and not friends but still closely associated? Why have they been hired by Tony Khan and/or the EVPs? Why would this shit make television? There's so much that just doesn't make sense, and I am sick of wrestling just not making sense. It's really frustrating that this is so normalized and internalized within wrestling personalities today. That shit is seriously embarrassing and I am sick of wrestling being embarrassing, because I want it to be good and people to actually watch it.

[Tom Guycott]

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The guy he does it to probably shouldn't have been in there. He can't even crawl away.

He should have turned the other way and pulled up into a camel clutch, break his back, and make him humble!

[Droford]

What city?

Salisbury Maryland

Buff Bagwell turned on Scotty Riggs on a nitro and Goldberg fucked up his arm punching a limo window here on a thunder.

Nothing else really happened that I can remember

oh yeah, David Flair found Crowbar at a gas station down the road from me and they went through the Burger king drive thru

thunder:
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[Evil Vito]

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ALL THE
SMALL GUYS
FIGHTING
OUTSIDE

[Volare]

WHAT THE FUCK?!? Nice little appearance.

[#1-norm-fan]

Cody vs Sammy Guevara has been announced for the TNT debut.

Cody should win handily but it’s probably gonna be an ultra competitive match. Other than the bad comedy, my biggest issue so far with AEW is the parity they’re slowly building. It feels like the idea is to make every match 5 stars which is an idea that ultimately ends with no one being special.

[slik]

Sammy's facial expression looks like he is getting a blowjob


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> LIVE Wednesday, October 2nd<br>Washington, DC - <a href="https://twitter.com/CapitalOneArena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CapitalOneArena</a><a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/sammyguevara?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SammyGuevara</a><br>Tickets on sale THIS Friday, August 2nd - Noon ET / 9am PT<a href="https://t.co/UN1cNj1kQq">https://t.co/UN1cNj1kQq</a> <a href="https://t.co/VHqlqXPoSe">pic.twitter.com/VHqlqXPoSe</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1156233150525321216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I don't watch TNT much but are they advertising the show on their TV?

[#1-norm-fan]

I just noticed something. Have they been mentioning the name of the show? Is “Dynamite” scrapped and they’re just going with “AEW on TNT”?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If they did scrap it, I approve. AEW ON TNT makes it sound like it's a legit sporting event. Dynamite makes it sound too much like Nitro.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> Wednesday, October 2nd <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> appears LIVE in Washington, DC <a href="https://twitter.com/CapitalOneArena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CapitalOneArena</a><br>Tickets on sale THIS Friday, August 2nd - Noon ET / 9am PT<a href="https://t.co/UN1cNj1kQq">https://t.co/UN1cNj1kQq</a> <a href="https://t.co/wEWavbJ0I8">pic.twitter.com/wEWavbJ0I8</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1156350106242822144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[screech]

Young Bucks and Kenny Omega vs Chris Jericho and two mystery partners announced for the first TNT show as well.

WHO COULD THEY BE?

[Lock Jaw]

It's Sting

[Volare]

Would seriously love if it's 2 names not announced that are signed. Hell of a way to debut.

[weather vane]

LAX?
Briscoes?
Enzo and Cass?
PAC and Marty?

[Vastardikai]

Heatseekers.

[Loose Cannon]

Hall and Nash

[Seanny One Ball]

If it ain't the Mulkey Brothers, I don't wanna know.

[Lock Jaw]

The Ealy Brothers

[mike adamle]

Vince and Shane McMahon

[Seanny One Ball]

Steph's Gazongas as a tag team unto themselves.

[Fignuts]

I would still tax the fuck out of Stephanie mcmahon

[Seanny One Ball]

Are you Mike Rotunda?

[#1-norm-fan]

Audit dem tittays

[Vastardikai]

Here's a left field one: The Impact Players.

[Seanny One Ball]

Is that what they called them? I sometimes wonder what the underside smells like, like is it perfume and jug sweat or what?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Marko Stunt and Dustin Thomas.

[Simple Fan]

Rufus and David Arquette

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BreakingNews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BreakingNews</a> … As reported by Sports Illustrated's <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinBarrasso?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JustinBarrasso</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> will crown the FIRST <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> Women’s World Champion when <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> debuts in Washington, DC at the <a href="https://twitter.com/CapitalOneArena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CapitalOneArena</a>. <br>Tix go on sale TOMORROW at Noon ET / 9am PT<a href="https://t.co/ZabEWdxcLg">https://t.co/ZabEWdxcLg</a> <a href="https://t.co/gtjoklEr0k">pic.twitter.com/gtjoklEr0k</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1156999051843461120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just hope they do Brian Pillman, Jr. vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger, just for the "feels." Liger can win and BJP will be fine. MJF can mock him for losing to a guy his dead-beat dad beat before MJF was even born. Cue the fucking fisticuffs and a match set up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Honestly though, Jericho is probably going to team with MJF and Shawn Spears, because they're the heels.