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Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 01:30 PM
Hey, nothing disqualifies that possibility.

xrodmuc316
09-10-2022, 01:34 PM
Might explain why Punk brings all sorts of guests, but never AJ to work.

Sepholio
09-10-2022, 02:43 PM
I just want to let AJ know that if she needs someone to be there for her during this difficult time that I am always available for her.

#1-norm-fan
09-10-2022, 02:49 PM
I’m telling Baby Doll next time I’m at her WalMart that you’re courting younger women.

Sepholio
09-10-2022, 04:31 PM
Fool, who do you think has me out trying to pull AJ? Baby Doll is wild man, you've got no idea.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 05:56 PM
CHRISTIAN CAGE THE ENGORGED RAGE

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 05:58 PM
I thought the “JR” Christian puts on his tights is for “Jay Reso.” Turns out it is for “JUST RAMMIN’”

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 05:59 PM
Christian is Britt Baker’s Impact World Champion. As in he is World Champion of Impact in her pussy.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:03 PM
William Jason Reso (born November 30, 1973) is a Canadian professional wrestler, actor and sex machine. He is currently signed to All Elite Wrestling (AEW) under the ring name Christian Cage. He is best known for his tenure in WWE under the ring name Christian where he performed regularly from 1998 to 2005 and again from 2009 to 2014, and for performing in Britt Baker, which we don’t say lightly. He also worked for Impact Wrestling, then known as Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA), from 2005 to 2008 and during a brief return in 2021. And did we mention he had sex with Britt Baker?

Jay dropped the “William” from his name. He also dropped the willy inside Britt Baker.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:06 PM
Britt Baker’s first wrestling crush was Edge. And to think that when Christian signed with AEW I didn’t think he and Edge would tag team again.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:08 PM
Christian showed Britt Baker how to work TLC.

Tasty Long Cock

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:10 PM
Britt Baker’s new gimmick is going to be “The Blue Dot.” Because she’s covering Christian’s face.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:11 PM
If Christian had a 12-inch penis, he could call it the Baker’s dozen.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:13 PM
Christian lasted longer with Britt Baker than his first World Heavyweight Title run did.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 06:25 PM
By the way, when it comes to The Bucks sending feelers, that allegedly happened AFTER the talk about contract tampering. Which means this was after Kenny got back. So it’s not necessarily confirmed that Kenny signed a new deal before Tony Khan put those six-man tag belts on him. He could still be gone come January even if there are no repercussions from these incidents.

Mr. Nerfect
09-10-2022, 10:58 PM
Chris Jericho is almost as old as PCO was when he won the ROH Title. I remember Jerry Lynn feeling like a relic when he won it at 45.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2022, 12:26 PM
Slow news day. You know what isn’t slow? Christian Cage’s thrusts into the vagina of Britt Baker.

Frank Drebin
09-11-2022, 12:45 PM
Jesus Christ.....

Helmsphere
09-11-2022, 12:57 PM
Jesus noid.

Everyone knows he is giving her a lock jaw of his own.

ron the dial
09-11-2022, 01:03 PM
she said she want some marvin gaye some luther vandross
a little anita will definitely set this party off right

Evil Vito
09-11-2022, 01:54 PM
Like 50 consecutive Noid posts on the last 2 pages. Like all Noid posts, I won’t read them but I commend him on his dedication to discussing a company he doesn’t care about.

screech
09-11-2022, 02:06 PM
He doesn't care about AEW and we are gonna read about it, dammit

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2022, 02:45 PM
There’s nothing wrong with being honest about shitty wrestling. You’re damn right you’re going to hear my opinion on it. I look forward to the next time you voice your opinion about an opinion you don’t care about.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2022, 02:47 PM
Apparently Impact have “The Instant Classic” trademarked, so Christian has had to go with “The Intense Climax.”

Jordan
09-11-2022, 02:57 PM
Guys we are all a family here and Noid is that brother or sister that always sparks a conversation that turns the evening into an AEW style pull apart.

ron the dial
09-11-2022, 02:59 PM
nah this time it's just bad jokes everyone is ignoring

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-11-2022, 03:11 PM
It's Noid's world and we're all living in it.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2022, 03:12 PM
Guys we are all a family here and Noid is that brother or sister that always sparks a conversation that turns the evening into an AEW style pull apart.

No, I want no further association with those muppets other than they cry on the board I post on. screech is an asshole and Vito desperately wants people to know he finds women hot for some weird reason. And they can’t hack the truth. They can’t detect a lie so they’ve got to cry.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2022, 03:15 PM
Christian Cage showed Britt Baker 5 SEXUAL poses. Then he showed her a 6th. Then a 7th…

Stu Hart
09-11-2022, 03:58 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’d like an AEW figure.</p>&mdash; Colt Cabana (@ColtCabana) <a href="https://twitter.com/ColtCabana/status/1568703358692917249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That reply : just buy one...or does your mom have the debit card today?"

legit :ROFLMAO

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-11-2022, 05:21 PM
Lol fuck poor Colt

XL
09-11-2022, 05:50 PM
Like 50 consecutive Noid posts on the last 2 pages. Like all Noid posts, I won’t read them but I commend him on his dedication to discussing a company he doesn’t care about.

Give me back Hate Posting Noid. We now have Creepy Teenager Noid.

Destor
09-11-2022, 06:13 PM
I enjoy noid in all his forms.

#1-norm-fan
09-11-2022, 06:26 PM
Well you like chaos. It’s very libertarian of you.

#1-norm-fan
09-11-2022, 06:27 PM
And that is not an insult. Though I know you’d like it to be. Because again… chaos.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-11-2022, 06:31 PM
Noid might not know this, but I've softened on him compared to where I used to be. I just like giving him a hard time.

screech
09-11-2022, 06:35 PM
Fantasy booking Noid was my favorite Noid.

Destor
09-11-2022, 06:35 PM
Well you like chaos. It’s very libertarian of you.

And that is not an insult. Though I know you’d like it to be. Because again… chaos.you arent wrong. :lol:

Destor
09-11-2022, 06:37 PM
I do miss the days where you could find a dozen conflicting takes on tpww. Ideological stew. That was peak tpww

#1-norm-fan
09-11-2022, 06:50 PM
Noid might not know this, but I've softened on him compared to where I used to be. I just like giving him a hard time.

To paraphrase Corny quoting someone else (I don’t remember who): I used to think he was a complete moron but such worse <s>cumdorxes</s> morons have come along since that he’s gone up without even trying.

Mr. Nerfect
09-11-2022, 08:33 PM
Noid might not know this, but I've softened on him compared to where I used to be. I just like giving him a hard time.

I’ve loosened up on you too. You’ve got some good takes, and this place needs more of them.

IC Champion
09-12-2022, 11:48 AM
Don’t go stroking ODD’s ego now.

Mr. Nerfect
09-12-2022, 03:21 PM
Eh, I’ve ignored him long enough that it won’t quite balance out.

Mr. Nerfect
09-12-2022, 03:22 PM
Speaking of stroking, did you hear about Christian Cage and Britt Baker?!?

IC Champion
09-12-2022, 07:27 PM
Have they fired CM Punk yet?

IC Champion
09-12-2022, 07:28 PM
Or is TK actually not as retarded as people on here claim?

Mr. Nerfect
09-12-2022, 08:33 PM
TK probably has to be very careful how he treads, given that the brawl happened around a woman with an injury and talent on the other side of it seem to be looking to jump.

Mr. Nerfect
09-13-2022, 01:54 PM
Omega and The Bucks have been removed from the Full Gear poster. CM Punk has been too, but he won’t be wrestling at the event because of injury. It looks like The Bucks and Omega could potentially be suspended for at least that long. Full Gear is November 19.

BTE is on hiatus too.

Thank fuck.

Splaya
09-13-2022, 02:00 PM
Well, it's hard to film something when all you are doing is sitting around and doing nothing.

And I'm sure Tony told them "You can't do anymore of those in the likelihood if you say something about the incident (which we know that they would), it could open us up to a lawsuit."

I didn't mind BTE when it had nothing to do with wrestling. Like recently when one of the bucks won a ton of money at the casino. I liked that.

Evil Vito
09-13-2022, 02:34 PM
I don't watch BTE every week but the Bucks had progressively less and less of a presence on there despite it being their show. They'd usually film themselves at an airport or a store in the town they're in or whatever. But the rest of the episode would be segments filmed by other members of the roster.

A lot of the year one AEW guys (Hangman, Dark Order, Best Friends, Peter Avalon) etc seem to still enjoy doing it. But as far as I know Brandon Cutler films and edits the entire thing and he's suspended too so I understand why it's all been put on pause.

Evil Vito
09-13-2022, 02:41 PM
Can't remember if it was Ryan Nemeth or someone else that said BTE helped boost morale during the Daily's Place residency. That Dark regulars (himself included) were chomping at the bit to be on the show and it was giving everyone a chance to go off into their own corners of the arena and film their own segments and do some wacky character work.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-13-2022, 02:49 PM
Can't remember if it was Ryan Nemeth or someone else that said BTE helped boost morale during the Daily's Place residency. That Dark regulars (himself included) were chomping at the bit to be on the show and it was giving everyone a chance to go off into their own corners of the arena and film their own segments and do some wacky character work.

I guess that's fine, but maybe put it on TV somehow so that it doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Sepholio
09-13-2022, 02:56 PM
They don't have the TV time and they couldn't get a dedicated timeslot for BTE on public access if they tried.

Sepholio
09-13-2022, 02:59 PM
Make sure to catch next weeks episode of BTE! Every Tuesday at 4:30am EST, only on Duval County Public Access Television, a division of the Florida Public Broadcast Service.

Mr. Nerfect
09-13-2022, 05:09 PM
The Bucks have lost their smiles. And they were the ones smiling hardest at their own jokes.

Mr. Nerfect
09-13-2022, 05:13 PM
Dave is saying that Tony Khan can extend Omega’s contract because of the injuries. I can imagine that is basically a way of kissing Omega goodbye after he’s let off in November 2023 or whenever it is. But I’m pretty sure he did overplay a lot of those injuries and take the company for a bit of a ride.

Man this company is turning into even more of a mess.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-13-2022, 05:14 PM
They don't have the TV time and they couldn't get a dedicated timeslot for BTE on public access if they tried.

Lol I guess you could play it on rampage and it wouldn’t make a difference

xrodmuc316
09-13-2022, 05:27 PM
I just LOVE that Tiny is now doing FEDBAD things. Extending people for injuries, making people have non compete clauses, making people go through "yes men" instead of having time for his friends errr I mean employees errr I mean his live toys. Maybe he should just get out of the rasslin business and dedicate him time on his passion for cocaine.

screech
09-13-2022, 06:03 PM
Lol I guess you could play it on rampage and it wouldn’t make a difference

That's the only way I'd ever see it lol

Jordan
09-13-2022, 07:13 PM
Kenny Omega in Japan rn hanging out with a lot of DDT folks likely sending out "feelers". Maybe DDT would be the best place for Kenny to be Intergender tag team champions and wrestle his new style that Tony Kahn isn't a big time fan of anymore.

Mr. Nerfect
09-14-2022, 05:13 AM
Omega going back to DDT is a distinct possibility. I would not be surprised to see Omega and Ibushi split off from their current promotions.

Vastardikai
09-14-2022, 05:45 AM
He'd likely be safer in Japan, I would imagine.

Evil Vito
09-14-2022, 03:21 PM
Looking forward to Mox throttling Sammy tonight. Jericho/Danielson is more of a toss-up, either of those vs. Mox is a viable Grand Slam main event. Can see the positives and negatives for a title reign for each, especially presuming the winner will be going into a feud with MJF.

Mox

Positives - Might be AEW's Tanahashi...the guy you throw the belt on when the company's going through a tough time. Closest thing to just trying to carry on as if the Punk nonsense never happened.

Negatives - Dude was supposed to be going on like a month-long vacation that he postponed to do the next few Dynamites. While he's a company guy and might have no problem sticking around indefinitely, I suspect his body needs the rest after doing high-intensity matches all summer. Probably not the best for him to be given what would amount to a transitional title run, either.

Jericho

Positives - The most recognizable name left on the roster. Has been doing really good work this year. Loses nothing from having a transitional run. Can play in the whole "I'm the locker room leader" talk whilst MJF continues to shit on AEW and threaten to hold the title as a bargaining chip.

Negatives - The below scenario pretty much requires Jericho to be a face again, which is bleh as his heel work has been a big reason he's been so enjoyable this year. I know you can try to "shades of gray" it or whatever but I can see it being clunky to navigate.

Danielson

Positives - Hasn't won the title yet so it'd give him a nice accolade while also not hurting him if it's a transitional run. Strikes me as someone who doesn't want a lengthy run at this stage of his career anyway. MJF vs. Danielson would be a fresh feud as well vs. the other two options that have been done before.

Negatives - You've just had to vacate the title twice due to Punk getting hurt straight after winning it. Putting the belt on a guy who is a concussion away from being back on the shelf is a risky proposition. If you go this route you just cross your fingers and pray he makes it to Full Gear.

Vastardikai
09-14-2022, 03:43 PM
So, does Britt get the Lita treatment?

Stu Hart
09-14-2022, 03:49 PM
MJF vs Abyss for a wwe hall of fame ring. He punches out tony khan with the ring.

Mr. Nerfect
09-14-2022, 03:57 PM
So, does Britt get the Lita treatment?

I can’t find anything more on the story. What a weird little false start.

Vastardikai
09-14-2022, 04:29 PM
I mean, for the record, the source is trash. But the idea is funnier than anything else.

xrodmuc316
09-14-2022, 06:05 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
09-14-2022, 06:35 PM
I mean, for the record, the source is trash. But the idea is funnier than anything else.

It’s probably my favorite story of the year.

Mr. Nerfect
09-15-2022, 03:38 PM
Is it true that they’ve associated MJF with another thrown together faction? That’s not what he needs.

* Big Cass should just be winning squash matches at this point.

* Scorpio Sky & Ethan Page never got a chance as a proper tag team.

* I don’t know anything about Stokely Hathaway. I guess he should be managing someone who needs to get out of things on technicalities. PAC? Whatever. He’s not really necessary.

* I don’t know anything about Lee Moriarty. Is that the other guy in the group? I’m pretty sure he’s smaller. He could be getting hard-earned wins against the Frankie Kazarians and Matt Sydals of the world.

XL
09-15-2022, 03:40 PM
If anything they distanced him from them. They were described as being “on retainer”.

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 03:44 PM
Yeah I dunno what they are doing with that. Seems really dumb and a surefire way to ruin the hottest angle they have on air atm. But then I'm tired of all the constant factions in general. Let guys do their own thing from time to time.

It's one of those things that for years I thought WWE didn't have enough of and then AEW came along and knee jerked way too hard in the other direction.

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 03:45 PM
If anything they distanced him from them. They were described as being “on retainer”.

See I have the opposite reaction. That isn't distancing. He's telling you he's paying them and they are there to do his dirty work whenever as such.

XL
09-15-2022, 04:10 PM
But he’s not part of the faction. This isn’t The Pinnacle 2.0, it’s something somewhat different.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-15-2022, 04:37 PM
Dynamite drew a 1.2. Time to do away with the Cucamunga Kids and Harpo McFingerbang.

#1-norm-fan
09-15-2022, 06:15 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ladies panicking on my TL don’t worry. <br><br>Just cuz there’s a goalie doesn’t mean you can’t score. <br><br>Strive for greatness. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saltoftheearth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saltoftheearth</a> <a href="https://t.co/M4v2qPY9TF">https://t.co/M4v2qPY9TF</a></p>&mdash; Maxwell Jacob Friedman™️ (@The_MJF) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_MJF/status/1570520742160375809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol Legend. Put him in every hall of fame this instant.

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 06:23 PM
Dynamite drew a 1.2. Time to do away with the Cucamunga Kids and Harpo McFingerbang.

Ratings are up because Punk is gone and they are about to crown a real champion again!

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 08:19 PM
Uhg Matt Hardy is teasing Jeffs return and forming a potential Wardlow/Hardys trio...

xrodmuc316
09-15-2022, 08:29 PM
Uhg Matt Hardy is teasing Jeffs return and forming a potential Wardlow/Hardys trio...

LOL Matt Hardy is the king of hitching his wagon to others, WONDERFUL!

Mr. Nerfect
09-15-2022, 08:37 PM
Dynamite drew a 1.2. Time to do away with the Cucamunga Kids and Harpo McFingerbang.

Don’t know if you’re joking or not, but it doesn’t bode well for their leverage. Punk’s either, honestly.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-15-2022, 08:44 PM
Don’t know if you’re joking or not, but it doesn’t bode well for their leverage. Punk’s either, honestly.

Oh I'm being serious lol. The Elite can fuck off. And while it's not great for Punk, I'll take him over the other 3. His heart is in the right place--he's just a surly prick.

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 09:49 PM
HiS hEaRt Is In ThE rIgHt PlAcE

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-15-2022, 09:53 PM
How long did that take you to type? It'd be annoying to constantly switch from upper to lower case.

ron the dial
09-15-2022, 09:55 PM
is his heart in his butt? is that the right place?

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-15-2022, 09:56 PM
His pinky toe.

ron the dial
09-15-2022, 09:57 PM
the hitman butt heart

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-15-2022, 09:59 PM
The Hitman Butt Hurt

slik
09-15-2022, 10:04 PM
Is Sammy leaving


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I hope you live a life you’re proud of, and if you’re not, I hope you have the courage to start over again.”<br><br>We came up short last night, it is what it is, Thank you to everyone who has helped me get to this point. It’s been a hell of a ride. Where we go next we go with faith. <a href="https://t.co/hz62oxIMPE">pic.twitter.com/hz62oxIMPE</a></p>&mdash; Samuel Guevara (@sammyguevara) <a href="https://twitter.com/sammyguevara/status/1570454988001873921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 10:07 PM
How long did that take you to type? It'd be annoying to constantly switch from upper to lower case.

I can't tell you exactly how long it took but it definitely was less than the amount of time CM Punk spends crying about people being mean to him per hour.

Also, once you've done it a few times it actually becomes weirdly easy, albeit a bit slower than normal typing obviously.

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 10:08 PM
is his heart in his butt? is that the right place?

I think it's lying in the pile of sand in his vagina.

Sepholio
09-15-2022, 10:08 PM
Close though. Right next door to the borte.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 01:49 AM
Oh I'm being serious lol. The Elite can fuck off. And while it's not great for Punk, I'll take him over the other 3. His heart is in the right place--he's just a surly prick.

I’ll take Punk too. He’s a way better professional wrestler than the other 3. And I trust him more too.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 10:54 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny Omega told AEW roster he wouldn't have hired 'eight out of ten' of them <a href="https://t.co/ogZgZGwdjk">https://t.co/ogZgZGwdjk</a> <a href="https://t.co/DFDfIVHZl5">pic.twitter.com/DFDfIVHZl5</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling Observer (@WONF4W) <a href="https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/1570776283298299904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just want to point out that Last and Cornette brought this up weeks ago lol. And obviously Dave with the "But one source said he was joking and looking at Will Ospreay." Can't let his best friend take too much heat.

Destor
09-16-2022, 10:56 AM
Sounds like they should make Omega head of talent to me. 8/10 is about right.

Destor
09-16-2022, 10:57 AM
And thats just from a budgeting stand point

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 10:59 AM
#DestorDecrees

Destor
09-16-2022, 11:15 AM
Contract 2/10 and day pay the rest

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 11:36 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny Omega told AEW roster he wouldn't have hired 'eight out of ten' of them <a href="https://t.co/ogZgZGwdjk">https://t.co/ogZgZGwdjk</a> <a href="https://t.co/DFDfIVHZl5">pic.twitter.com/DFDfIVHZl5</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling Observer (@WONF4W) <a href="https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/1570776283298299904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just want to point out that Last and Cornette brought this up weeks ago lol. And obviously Dave with the "But one source said he was joking and looking at Will Ospreay." Can't let his best friend take too much heat.

Last and Cornette’s brand is honesty. There are fanboys for The Elite that aren’t going to like what comes out of them, but I don’t see them being blatantly dishonest just because Omega isn’t Cornette’s flavor.

Such an odd and confrontation way to attempt to motivate talent. A staff meeting is not the time to be joking and working angles, so even if that was what he was doing (and I don’t believe it), then that’s entirely inappropriate too.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 11:36 AM
Sounds like they should make Omega head of talent to me. 8/10 is about right.

He may have the ratio right, but Omega would hire the wrong ones.

Vastardikai
09-16-2022, 01:45 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny Omega told AEW roster he wouldn't have hired 'eight out of ten' of them <a href="https://t.co/ogZgZGwdjk">https://t.co/ogZgZGwdjk</a> <a href="https://t.co/DFDfIVHZl5">pic.twitter.com/DFDfIVHZl5</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling Observer (@WONF4W) <a href="https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/1570776283298299904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just want to point out that Last and Cornette brought this up weeks ago lol. And obviously Dave with the "But one source said he was joking and looking at Will Ospreay." Can't let his best friend take too much heat.

Why would Ospreay, who is not under contract with AEW, be at a mandatory meeting with the AEW Talent?

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 02:55 PM
That’s a good point, lol.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 03:00 PM
I’m fascinated as to why Dave Meltzer goes out of his way to protect The Bucks and Omega.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 03:26 PM
Voices of Wrestling has also reported that there are takes from AEW that Punk isn’t the problem, it’s The Elite.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 04:59 PM
I've heard the Elite is super detached from everyone and not all that interested in helping the guys--unless it's their peeps of course.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 05:00 PM
Whereas Punk was sticking around watching everything, including Rampage and Dark and all that shit, happy to work with everyone.

#1-norm-fan
09-16-2022, 05:33 PM
Yeah, Punk was happy to work with everyone to a fault.

Evil Vito
09-16-2022, 05:36 PM
Ace Steel when CM Punk offers to pay his legal fees

https://c.tenor.com/irxvhOReV7QAAAAC/larry-david-confused.gif

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 05:38 PM
Yeah, Punk was happy to work with everyone to a fault.

I mean that’s what fuckhead Dave says. I understand there’s never gonna be 100 percent acceptance of a new guy coming in and shaking things up. But from the sounds of it, lots of guys were open to what he had to say—but Dave did his best to diminish that because it might make his best pals look bad.

I was always willing to give Dave the benefit of the doubt but his obsession with the boosting the Elite is preposterous at this point.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 05:39 PM
Ace Steel when CM Punk offers to pay his legal fees

https://c.tenor.com/irxvhOReV7QAAAAC/larry-david-confused.gif

I’d say Punk’s biggest “defect” is how he will turn on someone at the drop of a hat. But I do wonder what actually happened with him and Colt.

Evil Vito
09-16-2022, 05:48 PM
I’d say Punk’s biggest “defect” is how he will turn on someone at the drop of a hat. But I do wonder what actually happened with him and Colt.

Hard to know for sure. Supposedly Steel doesn’t speak with Cabana anymore either despite being Steel’s 2nd most successful trainee.

Cliff Compton was arguably the person who gained the most from his appearances on Colt’s podcasts and even testified in their lawsuit with Amann. He is close enough with Punk to get invited to Punk’s AEW debut and supposedly he doesn’t speak with Colt anymore either.

I’d imagine those are two of only a select few who know the real story and they’ve both “picked” Punk whatever that might mean.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 05:52 PM
I’d imagine those are two of only a select few who know the real story and they’ve both “picked” Punk whatever that might mean.

Could be because Punk’s more successful but it seems like Colt might be a shady ass, carny mahfuck who screws his friends over for a buck.

Evil Vito
09-16-2022, 05:59 PM
Entirely possible. It’s also possible he’s just a big dumb fuck who assumed that Punk footing the bill to move proceedings along meant he wasn’t gonna have to pay at all despite them being a joint party on the suit.

Without knowing all of the details it feels like even the most basic of communication skills could’ve avoided a lot of this nonsense.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 06:28 PM
I mean that’s what fuckhead Dave says. I understand there’s never gonna be 100 percent acceptance of a new guy coming in and shaking things up. But from the sounds of it, lots of guys were open to what he had to say—but Dave did his best to diminish that because it might make his best pals look bad.

I was always willing to give Dave the benefit of the doubt but his obsession with the boosting the Elite is preposterous at this point.

He lost me with his extremely skewered coverage of the early WWE/AEW stuff. Just ludicrous things coming from him. But he seems really willing to go down with The Elite’s ship for whatever reason.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 06:59 PM
Brian Last has been hinting (without subtlety) that there is way more shit to come up on Kenny Omega’s backstage antics. He seems to be in the loop. He seems to think Ace Steel and Omega are going to be the casualties of this investigation. It’s interesting, because I would have thought The Bucks, specifically Matt, would have been the first heads on the chopping block from The Elite side.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 07:02 PM
Yeah I heard him say Kenny was on the chopping block but he didn't really elaborate. I def raised my eyebrow.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 07:08 PM
It seems like he knows something that he isn’t breaking as news just yet.

Vastardikai
09-16-2022, 09:14 PM
Brian Last has been hinting (without subtlety) that there is way more shit to come up on Kenny Omega’s backstage antics. He seems to be in the loop. He seems to think Ace Steel and Omega are going to be the casualties of this investigation. It’s interesting, because I would have thought The Bucks, specifically Matt, would have been the first heads on the chopping block from The Elite side.

I just hope that my headcanon involving Omega isn't right, considering how close it was (ALLEGEDLY) with Britt. Because it is incredibly monstrous.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 09:24 PM
I just hope that my headcanon involving Omega isn't right, considering how close it was (ALLEGEDLY) with Britt. Because it is incredibly monstrous.

do elaborate.

Vastardikai
09-16-2022, 09:45 PM
do elaborate.

A lot of it is based on Emi Sakura, who he brought in as a "Coach" for the Women's Division. Mainly how she trained a LOT of female wrestlers, many of them very young (Riho was 8, another of her students was the girl that Omega wrestled in that infamous match that Cornette bitches about). She had 3 schools (ICE Ribbon, Gatoh MOVE, and Choco Pro), and none of the schools had rings. Also, Gatoh MOVE was based out of Thailand, which she went to after some issues in ICE Ribbon with students.

And part of the reason why Omega liked Japan so much was because they report assaults over there even less than it gets reported in the US. And he hangs out with a bunch of abusers because he himself is one.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 09:49 PM
well sheeeeeeit.

Vastardikai
09-16-2022, 09:57 PM
well sheeeeeeit.

I mean, you did ask. :-\:shifty:

Sepholio
09-16-2022, 10:03 PM
Kenny Pedomega, amirite?

Vastardikai
09-16-2022, 10:10 PM
Kenny Pedomega, amirite?

"The Groomer."

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-16-2022, 10:15 PM
omg lolol

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 11:12 PM
Look, I also hope it’s not true, but it does disturb me seeing adults perform physical stunts with kids. The wrestling speaking out thing shone some light on the British scene — I don’t know why Japanese promotions that are basically fronts for softcore porn shoots and training children for “entertainment” should get a pass. It gives me the heebies. If it turns out Omega has benefit from that industry…look, can anyone play dumb and say “Who could have seen that coming?!?” Was it really a big surprise when the guy who used his position of power in wrestling to get people to touch his penis turned out to be a creep? I’m talking about Joey Ryan, but that could be Vince.

I think if it were that, Last would be more direct in calling him out, but he did say that Omega might be staying in Japan if it all comes out about him.

Mr. Nerfect
09-16-2022, 11:14 PM
I just hope that my headcanon involving Omega isn't right, considering how close it was (ALLEGEDLY) with Britt. Because it is incredibly monstrous.

Lol, what was your head canon about Britt? I probably read it and just forgot. Was it that she was a peep?

Sting Fan
09-16-2022, 11:52 PM
From a pure entertainment standpoint if I have to choose between Kenny/The Bucks and Punk it’s not even close I chose Kenny and the Bucks.

Play punks music from time to time then let MJF cut a promo and we’re miles ahead with the value he’s added so far.

I was pretty hyped for his return but most of its kinda been very underwhelming.

Vastardikai
09-17-2022, 12:41 AM
Lol, what was your head canon about Britt? I probably read it and just forgot. Was it that she was a peep?

I had her cheating with CM Punk.

Vastardikai
09-17-2022, 12:50 AM
Also, to prove I'm not just pulling this out of my ass...

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=138935&highlight=books+the+best+%28%3F%29

Baker comes out next, with Jamie Hayter and her other charge debuting a new gimmick. She is now known as Not Rebel, Not Reba, Not Rebecca, Not Rhonda, but Rose. Tony Schiavone gives Britt a hug, causing Adam Cole to come out, he looks to be six inches shorter. He threatens Tony. CM Punk walks up behind her and smacks her ass. Britt says "Call Me."

Mr. Nerfect
09-17-2022, 05:45 AM
I had her cheating with CM Punk.

Oh yeah, I do remember that. Hey, Punk called Adam Cole a “sweetheart” at that scrum for a reason.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-17-2022, 08:40 AM
Does that make Adam Cole this era’s Chris Candido?

Jordan
09-17-2022, 08:44 AM
Triple H experimenting with real music, played "White Rabbit" during a commercial break. Now Tony is up against the ropes!

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Sepholio
09-17-2022, 08:46 AM
The way that turned red at the end made me think Bray was about to walk out. Seems like an appropriate set up.

drave
09-17-2022, 10:39 AM
patience

Sepholio
09-17-2022, 12:02 PM
no

xrodmuc316
09-17-2022, 01:54 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
09-17-2022, 03:05 PM
Holy shit, are they really doing that? I saw the idea and I was thinking it just came from a fan.

Mr. Nerfect
09-17-2022, 03:06 PM
Licensed music is potentially a great tool. It’s expensive, but the WWE has got the resources. But hey, just during commercial breaks works too. Triple H seems more mindful of the show as a live experience.

Mr. Nerfect
09-17-2022, 06:54 PM
The last time FTR wrestled a straight-up tag team match in AEW was at Forbidden Door. Their last one on Dynamite was against Roppongi Vice in May. Before that it was The Bucks match in April.

Mr. Nerfect
09-17-2022, 09:33 PM
Samuel Guevara has been weird on Twitter. He might just be looking for attention, but he has posted a few things about things ending and going to new places, etc. He’s also posted pics of people taking bows and has an email for booking requests for him and Tay.

Mr. Nerfect
09-17-2022, 09:51 PM
I slept on the idea of ROH being the place for The Elite when it comes out they are all tossers. Maybe it’s just because I don’t see them going along with it, or TK taking the Elite out of All Elite Wrestling if it’s possible not to. But let’s say that CM Punk and Ace Steel have the bigger legal dick because Ace Steel’s wife felt intimidated, etc. Punk doesn’t want them to fuck off completely, he just wants more power and control in AEW and them to have none. They weigh up leaving but decide that it would be better to stay associated and get ROH.

Final Battle:

* Claudio Castagnoli vs. Kenny Omega
* FTR vs. The Young Bucks

The Bucks win the tag belts because FTR go to AEW full-time as the star team there. It’s the little bargaining chip to make it seem like they aren’t getting buried — they get to win that series. The Briscoes then confront them, and since Jeff Hardy is on his way back, that’s where you put him and Matt.

Omega can either win the ROH Title or Will Ospreay can cost him that match to put more build behind Omega and Ospreay for the IWGP US Title at Wrestle Kingdom.

ROH also has Colt Cabana. Adam Page can go over and you can run Page vs. Omega II over there eventually.

Jordan
09-19-2022, 12:16 AM
That would be really cool.

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 05:44 AM
I want to see Claudio vs. Shingo at WK. Make that for the ROH Title. Shingo can win the belt and spend some time in ROH. He can have the gimmick of trying to go through the ROH Hall of Famers (Danielson, Punk, Joe). He can eventually drop the belt to Omega who would be the centerpiece there. Omega can then defend the belt against Okada at a crossover show before eventually dropping it to Page.

Evil Vito
09-19-2022, 02:53 PM
<b>Dynamite Grand Slam:</b>

AEW World Championship: Jon Moxley vs. Bryan Danielson

ROH World Championship: Chris Jericho vs. Claudio Castagnoli (C)

AEW World Tag Team Championship: The Acclaimed vs. Swerve in our Glory (C)

AEW Women's Championship: Dr. Britt Baker vs. Serena Deeb vs. Athena vs. Toni Storm (C)

AEW All-Atlantic Championship: Orange Cassidy vs. PAC (C)

---

<b>Rampage Grand Slam:</b>

No DQ: Darby Allin and Sting vs. The House of Black (Brody King and Buddy Matthews)

Eddie Kingston vs. Sammy Guevara

Powerhouse Hobbs vs. Ricky Starks

Jungle Boy vs. Rey Fenix

TBS Championship: Diamante vs. Jade Cargill (C)

Angelo Parker and Matt Menard vs. Hook and Action Bronson

Wardlow and Samoa Joe vs. Tony Nese and Josh Woods

Golden Ticket Battle Royal featuring Lance Archer, Penta Oscuro, Jay Lethal, Adam Page, The Dark Order, Rush, and more

---

Cramming 8 matches onto a 2-hour Rampage, but at least 3 of those figure to be quick squashes. Between that and the battle royal it feels like they're really just trying to get everyone a match on their big stadium show, kinda like how the Andre Battle Royal was mostly just added to get everyone a Mania payday.

That said whilst I love a good battle royal, having it be for a title shot is clunky as hell. Yeah it's an easy way to set the new champion up for their first challenger so they can get some defenses in before MJF takes the belt, but it only further highlights how pointless rankings are. They may as well just mercy kill them in the new year.

In any event this will be a long night attending live but there should be some real belters on there. Excited to go.

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 04:25 PM
Bryan Alvarez let it slip on one of the Observer shows that there was a previous internal investigation in AEW that went several months. He didn’t say what it was about, but that could support what Brian Last has said about there being lots of issues involving The Bucks and Omega in the past (provided it was them getting investigated).

Sepholio
09-19-2022, 07:37 PM
Kenny Omega has been booted from the main event of AAA Triplemania XXX next month because his AEW suspension won't let him compete elsewhere either, apparently.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-19-2022, 09:19 PM
I was listening to Last earlier, and he further implied that Kenny was in some DEEP shit.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-19-2022, 09:19 PM
tbh--it sounds like the Bucks are in the clear, though.

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 09:25 PM
Uh oh.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-19-2022, 09:33 PM
I think this whole deal will work against the Bucks and how they're featured, though. I don't think Tony will be appreciative that they let the situation with Punk get out of control, given how much he is/was paying the guy.

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 09:49 PM
It seems weird Omega would get into trouble when The Bucks wouldn’t. Matt Jackson seemed to be the lead instigator in the locker-room. They’re known worms. Omega does have a bite mark on the underside of his left arm, like he went to grab someone around the neck from behind, but The Bucks would have to get in shit for this for acting inappropriately as EVPs, surely?

Omega’s trouble seems to be from something else and or maybe being the behind-the-scenes aggravator.

I’d like to know more about the whole story with the video game. There are loose reports that Omega was terrible to work for and the game is severely over-budget. The head of the Yukes Nordic development team left to jump to 2k, which seems…odd. It seems weird a guy’s contract would come up during a development cycle, let alone them feeling the need to take a lower position with a rival company. There’s more to that story and how Fight Forever has been handled.

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 09:50 PM
It reminds me of Homer Simpson being in charge of designing a car for Herb lol.

slik
09-19-2022, 10:01 PM
Holy Shit this is so bad

I can't believe they tweeted it out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“When the violins play, violence is always on the way” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheProblem?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheProblem</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MarinaShafir?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarinaShafir</a> has a message for her hometown of Albany, NY here on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDarkElevation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDarkElevation</a>! ▶️ <a href="https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa">https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZgZgXoSdFz">pic.twitter.com/ZgZgXoSdFz</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1572001339206504454?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 10:09 PM
Holy Shit this is so bad

I can't believe they tweeted it out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“When the violins play, violence is always on the way” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheProblem?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheProblem</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MarinaShafir?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarinaShafir</a> has a message for her hometown of Albany, NY here on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDarkElevation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDarkElevation</a>! ▶️ <a href="https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa">https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZgZgXoSdFz">pic.twitter.com/ZgZgXoSdFz</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1572001339206504454?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bless her. I think she really wants to be in wrestling. But wow. Vickie Guerrero should not be trying to save your segments.

Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2022, 10:09 PM
I actually lol’d after “You don’t know me!” though.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-20-2022, 06:40 AM
It seems weird Omega would get into trouble when The Bucks wouldn’t. Matt Jackson seemed to be the lead instigator in the locker-room. They’re known worms. Omega does have a bite mark on the underside of his left arm, like he went to grab someone around the neck from behind, but The Bucks would have to get in shit for this for acting inappropriately as EVPs, surely?

Omega’s trouble seems to be from something else and or maybe being the behind-the-scenes aggravator.

I’d like to know more about the whole story with the video game. There are loose reports that Omega was terrible to work for and the game is severely over-budget. The head of the Yukes Nordic development team left to jump to 2k, which seems…odd. It seems weird a guy’s contract would come up during a development cycle, let alone them feeling the need to take a lower position with a rival company. There’s more to that story and how Fight Forever has been handled.

oh yeah, I don't know if the fight stuff will be a huge problem for Kenny. Just sounds like there's other stuff he's done that's working against him. Could be about the video game and it could be some question behaviour backstage.

Jordan
09-20-2022, 08:58 AM
MJF was on the MMAhour with Ariel Helwani. I made sure to tune in, I usually watch most episodes anyway because the MMA world is 10x more exciting than Pro Wrestling these days, at least in the actual watching of it at least, plus gambling.

Anyway, MJF came in and here are my thoughts.

You don't really need to see this interview, MJF is mostly in character and nothing is really said that you need to hear. MJF basically said that he came to a financial deal with Tony and is getting paid a lot more money and a better spot on the card but no time added to his deal. He said he got the deal he wanted and he will be the champion when his contract is up and spark the biggest bidding war ever in wrestling.

He said he'd be interested in any wrestling company that would pay him the most money except for NJPW (lol).

He said he thinks that WWE is "really good" right now but wouldn't say it's "much better" than it was with Vince in charge. But he watches as much of it as possible and enjoys it. He also only watches wrestling, he watches everything current and old. He's obsessed with wrestling.

He showed love for Bruce Prichard and his MLW tenure, and that promotion as a feeder league where he cut his teeth.

He didn't comment on the Punk/Elite drama in detail.

He was happy for Cody to do what was right for him in leaving AEW and that it opened up a big spot on the roster which is a good thing. And that if The Elite or Punk leave AEW their spots are ready to be taken by a multitude of viable talent.

He sold AEW hard as "doing very well despite the rumors", sold that he was the reason for the ratings going up after a summer of down numbers with his absence. Lot's of big company man talk, numbers and a bunch of typical bullshit you'd hear from a company man. That stuff surprised me but I guess he needed to walk back some of the company shit talk and try to get the "cool kids" back on board with AEW.

Said most underrated talent is Ethan Page and Stokely Hathway. Said most overrated is my favorite Jon Moxley, that his bravado is bullshit but he's a good wrestler.

He said he and Tony are getting along much better now that he's being paid his worth.

Put over a lot of talent like Darby, Brody King, Ethan Page and cited Terry Funk as an idol of his.

screech
09-20-2022, 10:28 AM
wow that Marina Shafir promo was horrendous

screech
09-20-2022, 10:29 AM
like even AEW Twitter, notorious marks for everything the company puts on, didn't like it

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 10:39 AM
MJF was on the MMAhour with Ariel Helwani. I made sure to tune in, I usually watch most episodes anyway because the MMA world is 10x more exciting than Pro Wrestling these days, at least in the actual watching of it at least, plus gambling.

Anyway, MJF came in and here are my thoughts.

You don't really need to see this interview, MJF is mostly in character and nothing is really said that you need to hear. MJF basically said that he came to a financial deal with Tony and is getting paid a lot more money and a better spot on the card but no time added to his deal. He said he got the deal he wanted and he will be the champion when his contract is up and spark the biggest bidding war ever in wrestling.

He said he'd be interested in any wrestling company that would pay him the most money except for NJPW (lol).

He said he thinks that WWE is "really good" right now but wouldn't say it's "much better" than it was with Vince in charge. But he watches as much of it as possible and enjoys it. He also only watches wrestling, he watches everything current and old. He's obsessed with wrestling.

He showed love for Bruce Prichard and his MLW tenure, and that promotion as a feeder league where he cut his teeth.

He didn't comment on the Punk/Elite drama in detail.

He was happy for Cody to do what was right for him in leaving AEW and that it opened up a big spot on the roster which is a good thing. And that if The Elite or Punk leave AEW their spots are ready to be taken by a multitude of viable talent.

He sold AEW hard as "doing very well despite the rumors", sold that he was the reason for the ratings going up after a summer of down numbers with his absence. Lot's of big company man talk, numbers and a bunch of typical bullshit you'd hear from a company man. That stuff surprised me but I guess he needed to walk back some of the company shit talk and try to get the "cool kids" back on board with AEW.

Said most underrated talent is Ethan Page and Stokely Hathway. Said most overrated is my favorite Jon Moxley, that his bravado is bullshit but he's a good wrestler.

He said he and Tony are getting along much better now that he's being paid his worth.

Put over a lot of talent like Darby, Brody King, Ethan Page and cited Terry Funk as an idol of his.

Without listening, that sounds like a good interview. That’s how you stay in character but also divulge things while putting everything over. Including WWE, lol.

What a gem. You know, he might have more to do with ratings going up than zero. The man is just great pro-wrestling. I just hope TK isn’t being too on-the-nose with this MJF/Mox stuff and we do get Danielson as champion.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 10:41 AM
wow that Marina Shafir promo was horrendous

I don’t want to be mean to her, because she is clearly trying, but it’s just not for her. This role, maybe wrestling. NXT cut her for a reason. Maybe she can hover about, be a referee, do crossover stuff with Ronda and/or Shayna. I just don’t see this…getting good. And the whole gimmick is just wrestling recruit and no one has gotten in there to tell her to not try and be a million things that aren’t her.

XL
09-20-2022, 10:47 AM
She might even be worse that Aliyah.

Evil Vito
09-20-2022, 10:48 AM
Shafir was a completely pointless addition. Terrible wrestler, terrible promo.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 10:52 AM
oh yeah, I don't know if the fight stuff will be a huge problem for Kenny. Just sounds like there's other stuff he's done that's working against him. Could be about the video game and it could be some question behaviour backstage.

Oh yeah, it just seems weird that the hints are Omega is getting it worse.

Regardless of who gets hammered hardest, you’d think that someone in their position would be given the option to leave. It could be perceived as really embarrassing for a former executive to walk into a locker-room as “mere talent” and held to a contract on that.

If Omega is done — whether they fire him or just pull his January deal and make it as quiet and “mutual” as possible, I could see that being the cue for The Bucks to exit too. This is all probably playing into the politics of this thing.

Same thing on the Punk side. I’m more sympathetic to it, but even if you aren’t — losing Punk isn’t just about losing a 40-something dude who isn’t guaranteed to be healthy. You’re going to get offside with a lot of his political allies, some of whom are young guys with lots of potential to draw actual money from you. I’m obviously reading into things a lot, but Powerhouse Hobbs has been pretty open about Punk helping him out. Assuming he and Starks close (Starks a former Cody guy) then it could extend to that. Obviously there’s FTR. They seem to get along with Brian Pillman, Jr., Griff Garrison and Brock Anderson. Then there’s Wardlow and even Danhausen.

You suddenly start to have a roster of guys that looks pretty impressive on its own who might want to get out of a company that is chained to The Elite. And the same thing goes back the other way, to a different degree with different guys.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 10:54 AM
I’ll say this again: If you’ve got obvious built-in assets and the WWE cuts you from developmental, then it might just be because you didn’t show the right stuff. AEW has been pretty peachy keen to pick up people from NXT that common sense should have indicated probably needed A LOT of work and may not have shown any signs of getting there.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 11:04 AM
Dave is hinting that AEW might be abandoning their rankings moving forward. Apparently their website hasn’t been updated since August.

It’s kind of a “no shit” scenario for me. Rankings and the displayed record was always going to create unnecessary corners for the booking to deal with. The great thing about wrestling is that you get to do a bit of creative accounting with people. You can heat someone with a terrible record up and you can bring forward stats you want to be known, leaving things you don’t care about behind you.

You were always going to get mid-carders with insane records and main eventers who are 50/50. You were also going to get ridiculous career statistics. It was a bad idea idea in conception and no one is going to convince me it was just their execution, lol. Look, you can have that the execution was terrible, but it was just a bad idea, ok?

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 11:06 AM
Now you’re also haunted by the ghost of that shit. Yeah, a company is always going to make some sort of mistakes and there are things that are going to come down to growing pains, but “remember the rankings?” is something that they arguably don’t deserve to just shrug. It was 3 years of banging their heads against a wall with something that was never going to work, only for them to eventually admit it was a failure.

And look, better late than never. But late isn’t early.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 11:22 AM
It’s also potentially alienating for fans who see someone a couple of times and their record just keeps jumping. In wrestling, in order to get people out in front of the live crowds, they’ll be facing way more tin-cans than a professional fighter would. But a record like 20-1 when you’ve been in the company for mere months and the viewer realizes they only cared about maybe 3 of those matches isn’t a good thing.

Demanding completionism from fans is a risk too. It’s a big ask for a large subset of people who might only be interested in Dynamite and maybe Rampage, with these records really blowing open the “lore.”

It’d be like if you’re watching Star Wars and suddenly the screen froze and you had to read all these background lore on Luke Skywalker’s lightsaber. It’s cool that it’s there for nerds for that shit, but it is not important to the laser sword fight.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 11:27 AM
What a gem. You know, he might have more to do with ratings going up than zero. The man is just great pro-wrestling. I just hope TK isn’t being too on-the-nose with this MJF/Mox stuff and we do get Danielson as champion.

By this I mean I hope they don’t force an MJF/Mox main event for Full Gear just because that’s what’s been teased right now. Danielson/MJF would be fine. Even leave Mox off the card/have him waiting in the bays. I guess you could also do Ethan Page vs. Mox lower on the card too. I’d entertain the idea of a Danielson/Mox/MJF three-way too, but maybe not right now.

MJF can talk shit about Moxley while feuding with Danielson over the belt. If they want to get cute, Mox could even get between Danielson and victory over MJF.

xrodmuc316
09-20-2022, 12:41 PM
Holy Shit this is so bad

I can't believe they tweeted it out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“When the violins play, violence is always on the way” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheProblem?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheProblem</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MarinaShafir?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarinaShafir</a> has a message for her hometown of Albany, NY here on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDarkElevation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDarkElevation</a>! ▶️ <a href="https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa">https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZgZgXoSdFz">pic.twitter.com/ZgZgXoSdFz</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1572001339206504454?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Roddy could have done better.

xrodmuc316
09-20-2022, 12:46 PM
"I'll say it, the crown jewel of wrestling markets█—█the real crown jewel of wrestling markets, not some BS overseas in Saudi Arabia."

Tiny out here trying to win the Jamal Khashogg of the Year award :-\

Vastardikai
09-20-2022, 01:28 PM
Holy Shit this is so bad

I can't believe they tweeted it out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“When the violins play, violence is always on the way” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheProblem?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheProblem</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MarinaShafir?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarinaShafir</a> has a message for her hometown of Albany, NY here on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDarkElevation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDarkElevation</a>! ▶️ <a href="https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa">https://t.co/l25mhLUdoa</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZgZgXoSdFz">pic.twitter.com/ZgZgXoSdFz</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1572001339206504454?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn Vickie Guerrero for sandbagging that promo!

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 01:52 PM
It’s weird that Vickie Guerrero is still around.

Damian Rey 2.0
09-20-2022, 04:10 PM
Maria Shafir sucks and I’m baffled as to why she’s employed

xrodmuc316
09-20-2022, 04:39 PM
Maria Shafir sucks and I’m baffled as to why she’s employed

Because she used to work for WWE. Pretty much all that is needed to get a contract from Tiny :lol:

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 05:05 PM
Because she used to work for WWE. Pretty much all that is needed to get a contract from Tiny :lol:

That’s it. They thought they were really nabbing one from WWE.

Evil Vito
09-20-2022, 07:59 PM
If Marina Shafir HAD to stay in AEW the only way forward with her should be to turn her and Nyla Rose into an Al Snow and Steve Blackman-esquire tag team with Nyla being a huge dork and Shafir playing everything straight.

Nyla’s an adorable cheeseball on Twitter and letting her show some of that personality off vs being a generic monster would be better for her. Shafir on the other hand needs to never open her mouth again.

Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2022, 08:03 PM
Nyla Rose is going to be in the video game and FTR aren’t.

Jordan
09-21-2022, 08:31 AM
Nyla Rose was one of the first AEW stars man! FTR is gonna be a HUGE post release PAYABLE download. You'll have to pay more to play more my man.

Mr. Nerfect
09-21-2022, 12:48 PM
Nyla Rose was one of the first AEW stars man! FTR is gonna be a HUGE post release PAYABLE download. You'll have to pay more to play more my man.

Let’s see how many people do that. :lol:

Fignuts
09-22-2022, 10:26 AM
If it does indeed harken back to the feel of no mercy, I think a lot of people will.

Since people havent been able to shut up about it for 2 decades.

drave
09-22-2022, 10:31 AM
Per SportsGamersOnline managing editor Mike Straw (https://twitter.com/MikeStrawMedia/status/1564344411168849923?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1564344411168849923%7Ctwgr% 5E43cffbfc9bc34eb21abb7441ca351e900f392cc8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sescoops.com%2Fnews%2Fpossible-reason-ftr-cut-aew-fight-forever%2F), the reason for the duo’s absence is that moveset captures and animations had some issues which led to changes to the game’s launch roster.


There ya go farkwad.


There will be DLC packs, just like other pro wrasslin games of the past decade. It'll be just fine.

Mr. Nerfect
09-22-2022, 12:32 PM
If it does indeed harken back to the feel of no mercy, I think a lot of people will.

Since people havent been able to shut up about it for 2 decades.

So much went into No Mercy. It was a different time. Technological limitations were different. Wrestling has more people invested in it. Friends were interested in playing it.

An emulation of that is going to miss out on those contextual things that made it great. Least of all picking up the game and having 30% of the roster available to you.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-22-2022, 12:34 PM
I mean not having FTR in the game reflects 100% how they've been treated in AEW thus far.

Mr. Nerfect
09-22-2022, 12:39 PM
I mean not having FTR in the game reflects 100% how they've been treated in AEW thus far.

That is true.

Looks like they might be outdated on CM Punk too. Wade Keller is reporting that it looks like he is getting his contract bought out by AEW. I don’t personally believe this yet, but I’m sure there are stories going about for reasons.

Mr. Nerfect
09-22-2022, 12:43 PM
Keller seems to reason that Punk not being mentioned on the air by Ian Riccaboni is a sign that he’s on his way out. That could just be because he’s still suspended. But a contract buyout is a specific outcome to mention out of the blue. I’d guess he’s heard something and is looking for signs for it on the air.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-22-2022, 12:58 PM
Will be so shit to have Young Bucks on TV and not Punk. Oh well. At least they one of them got the shit beaten out of him.

My favorite part of Meltzer's reporting is him making sure it was 100% known that Punk through a sucker punch because heaven forbid the Bucks lose a shoot fight cleanly on Uncle Dave's watch.

Mr. Nerfect
09-22-2022, 01:14 PM
Will be so shit to have Young Bucks on TV and not Punk. Oh well. At least they one of them got the shit beaten out of him.

My favorite part of Meltzer's reporting is him making sure it was 100% known that Punk through a sucker punch because heaven forbid the Bucks lose a shoot fight cleanly on Uncle Dave's watch.

I missed that one lol. You’d think you’d hold back details like that when it comes to one side of the story and you know which side you’re getting. I think I most like the turnaround on Punk as an overall influence in order to make the negative stories about him fit.

If Punk leaving is true, it’s possible that The Bucks still won’t get off, especially if there are potential legal ramifications to keeping them on.

xrodmuc316
09-22-2022, 04:07 PM
My favorite part of Meltzer's reporting is him making sure it was 100% known that Punk through a sucker punch because heaven forbid the Bucks lose a shoot fight cleanly on Uncle Dave's watch.

Even with a sucker punch, nobody is losing a fight to Phil :lol:

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-22-2022, 04:23 PM
Even with a sucker punch, nobody is losing a fight to Phil :lol:

I mean I know you have a hard-on for him, but we're talking the Jackson brothers lol Tito and Jermaine have a better chance in a shoot fight than Matt and Nick.

Mr. Nerfect
09-22-2022, 04:44 PM
They’re literally the only two Jacksons on the planet that couldn’t take Punk.

Mr. Nerfect
09-22-2022, 04:45 PM
I can understand why Dave really wanted to lie to help them save face though.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 05:01 PM
Some AEW gossip:

- Tony Khan has been talking to different media platforms about airing AEW. DAZN is a name that has been thrown out there by Brandon Thurston. This could be for international rights to AEW or could eventually be a replacement for Warner Bros Discovery.

- Bobby Fish apparently tried to get Adam Cole and Kyle O’Reilly to leave AEW with him. They said no. It is believed Tony Khan found out and that has been it for Bobby Fish. Swerve Stickland’s name has been brought up, for whatever reason, as being someone that might have tipped TK off about Fish trying to lead an exodus.

rez
09-23-2022, 06:41 PM
Meltzer saying Saraya not medically cleared...

Fignuts
09-23-2022, 06:48 PM
Adam Cole seems to care more about his streaming career than his wrestling career, so not surprising he's comfortable where he is.

ron the dial
09-23-2022, 06:52 PM
hold up hold up let me give this a shot...

that's funny because britt baker cares more about christian cage streaming cum all over her face because they are having SEX

Sepholio
09-23-2022, 07:05 PM
Christian novacame all over her face.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:05 PM
hold up hold up let me give this a shot...

that's funny because britt baker cares more about christian cage streaming cum all over her face because they are having SEX

Not bad.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:05 PM
You know who else isn’t bad? Christian Cage at having sex with Britt Baker.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:07 PM
- Malakai Black, FTR and Swerve Strickland are all on the list of talent people believe WWE has sent feelers to. There is also mumbling about someone who has been with AEW from the start that would surprise people.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:08 PM
Serious guess: Britt Baker. That would be a pretty big blow to AEW. Without her their women’s div only really has Jade.

Sepholio
09-23-2022, 07:09 PM
Apparently they contacted Swerve, he went and snitched to TK that WWE was contacting people, and TK had legal send WWE a cease and desist in regards to tampering.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:12 PM
There’s that rumor. I dunno, I guess someone snitched. He’s new enough at a high level to probably do it.

There was mumblings that it was Jericho, but Jericho has a working relationship with WWE still. He did the Austin podcast and he, Bryan and Big Show did the Cena Raw thing. They have to talk to WWE for that to be put together. It doesn’t really make sense for Jericho to go “WWE is talking to me!”

I guess someone like Swerve might do it because he sees it getting him points. Bit of a rookie move though. Makes sense WWE would reach out to him if they were going to bring back Hit Row though.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:14 PM
I definitely see the WWE reaching out to MJF, but I don’t think that would be stooged off. If they contacted Britt re: her availability that would probably be pillow talk between her and Christian.

Sepholio
09-23-2022, 07:15 PM
Wardlow would be a guess for obvious reason. Would not be surprised if Trips has been blowing up PAC and Lance Archer, either.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:15 PM
No one really surprises me though. I guess Excalibur and Orange Cassidy would.

Sepholio
09-23-2022, 07:16 PM
Oh and I wouldn't be super shocked if they called Hangman up, either. They might be willing to give him a go in NXT and see if they can mold him a little bit before moving him up. I dunno how they feel about his comments re: taking advice though.

ron the dial
09-23-2022, 07:17 PM
i'd love to see h book butcher and blade

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:18 PM
Wardlow would be a guess for obvious reason. Would not be surprised if Trips has been blowing up PAC and Lance Archer, either.

Wardlow should really consider going. Hell, his contract could be up before MJF, especially if he hasn’t signed a new one since debuting in 2019.

PAC was a Triple H guy. I wonder if Tony has any tells? Swerve was just a tag champ for no reason. PAC is a double champion. Does that come about because he knows Triple H wants them?

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:20 PM
i'd love to see h book butcher and blade

They can keep Blade. Repackage Butcher and use him in WWE. He can be Bray Wyatt’s cleaver.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:21 PM
Oh and I wouldn't be super shocked if they called Hangman up, either. They might be willing to give him a go in NXT and see if they can mold him a little bit before moving him up. I dunno how they feel about his comments re: taking advice though.

You can get that out of him. He goes to NXT and is a good boy and they can say he learnt from his mistakes.

Sepholio
09-23-2022, 07:21 PM
Id like to see Kenny there honestly. Theres some matchups with WWE guys that could be incredible. Rollins, Richochet, Riddle, AJ, etc. And he would have absolutely no pull there which would be better for everyone involved. It could work.

If the goal is to stick is to AEW though there is only really one name I think would really make an impact. If WWE somehow got Mox back at this point that would spell doom for AEW I think.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:23 PM
If The Elite camp loses out in this investigation, I can see Tony offering them all ways out. Page probably gets an option to leave then too.

Sepholio
09-23-2022, 07:23 PM
You can get that out of him. He goes to NXT and is a good boy and they can say he learnt from his mistakes.

I honestly think a stint in WWE for Hangman would do wonder for him. He gets the right people around him and there is some definite star power there for a few years. Maybe not top guy potential, but definitely on the top end of things. Imagine WWE picking up the redemption of Hangman Page angle that AEW dropped the ball on and did it right. That could be a huge angle and get him over the moon.

rez
09-23-2022, 07:24 PM
Mox probably still has nightmares from the stupid shit they made him say/do. Vince or no Vince. Pretty sure he's happy where he's at.

Some familiar faces in WWE that aren't just call backs would be refreshing for WWE's product, tho.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:28 PM
Id like to see Kenny there honestly. Theres some matchups with WWE guys that could be incredible. Rollins, Richochet, Riddle, AJ, etc. And he would have absolutely no pull there which would be better for everyone involved. It could work.

If the goal is to stick is to AEW though there is only really one name I think would really make an impact. If WWE somehow got Mox back at this point that would spell doom for AEW I think.

I get what you’re saying, but he’s also a liability too. Triple H has kind of weaponized his garbage wrestling as something to be embarrassed by. It doesn’t mean they wouldn’t take him if he became available, but he’s a torpedo you kind of want them to fire off in their own ship.

Honestly, I feel the same way about a lot of guys there. Jericho is old and embarrassing now. Punk causes trouble because he won’t suffer the politics. Danielson diminishes himself because he doesn’t give a fuck. Samoa Joe looks disinterested and feels like a waste. Keith Lee sucks and reminds audiences that they will take everyone and it sucks. The optics of them having too many guys works for them, and it’s not like anyone is being maximized.

You want MJF, Britt Baker and Jade Cargill. That cripples them BIG TIME.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:29 PM
Honestly, even a guy like Wardlow being in AEW helps WWE because AEW has no clue what to do with him. It makes them look like clowns. There’s definitely benefits to signing him and using him better, but it doesn’t hurt if AEW keeps tripping over their own shoelaces.

Take the hot talent that actually somewhat find a way to get used half-way correctly there. MJF overcomes his bad booking and Jade has been booked pretty solidly for her experience level. I’m even iffy on Britt Baker, because she’s also kind of lost in limbo there. But you take her and they’ve got such a horrid women’s div. Good luck appealing to networks in these times without having a cast of women. That division isn’t going anywhere, so you do your best to make sure it sucks.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:33 PM
I honestly think a stint in WWE for Hangman would do wonder for him. He gets the right people around him and there is some definite star power there for a few years. Maybe not top guy potential, but definitely on the top end of things. Imagine WWE picking up the redemption of Hangman Page angle that AEW dropped the ball on and did it right. That could be a huge angle and get him over the moon.

I definitely think he’s in the wrong promotion. He’s pretty green and needs a place where he can work up to the level of other guys.

Mr. Nerfect
09-23-2022, 07:35 PM
I thought WWE had a decent chance of getting Kenny, but I’m also wondering if he’s someone that’s a bit too toxic, so you leave him in AEW to make a mess there. Plus if you don’t want it to be a wrestler’s market, don’t offer him much and see what that does to what Tony Khan starts paying the guys.

rez
09-23-2022, 07:38 PM
I would love to see Archer and The Butcher in WWE just to see how H could book them.

rez
09-23-2022, 07:42 PM
Archer was one of those first "big guys" AEW managed to get but they really haven't done dick with him for a while.

The Butcher started out late in wrestling, kinda like DDP but hasn't had the chance to really shine. I'd like to see him get a chance at a decent run. His band broke up so he might have the time to invest in a full WWE schedule (if he can stay healthy).

rez
09-23-2022, 07:48 PM
Young Bucks were fun for a while (I don't mind a lil flippy flip...a little). They can go back to Impact.

Omega should come back but on a short leash. I want the video game to succeed....

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-23-2022, 07:48 PM
hold up hold up let me give this a shot...

that's funny because britt baker cares more about christian cage streaming cum all over her face because they are having SEX

Spank bank material right here.

Fignuts
09-24-2022, 01:49 AM
I've never really thought about it before but yeah, Archer would be a way better tag partner for Butcher.

Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2022, 03:47 AM
I was just thinking about more talent I would poach. I think I would go after the Team Taz guys. Starks, Hobbs and Hook.

Vastardikai
09-24-2022, 06:08 PM
I was just thinking about more talent I would poach. I think I would go after the Team Taz guys. Starks, Hobbs and Hook.

Starks, with a little more muscle, could be a top guy.

Hobbs, with a mouthpiece, could be much more.

Hook needs a bit of both.

Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2022, 06:24 PM
Starks, with a little more muscle, could be a top guy.

Hobbs, with a mouthpiece, could be much more.

Hook needs a bit of both.

Yeah, I’d program Starks with Cody, maybe doing a gimmick where his idolization of Cody has warped into a mission to destroy him. Give Starks “Smoke & Mirrors” as a theme song.

Hobbs has got so much potential. Just tell his story. There’s a top babyface.

Hook I’d use in NXT. Maybe have him debut in a similar fashion to his dad, he can choke out Damon Kemp on his first night in or something. Maybe have Kurt Angle introduce him. He’ll need some development, but he could be an interesting player down there.

Evil Vito
09-24-2022, 06:43 PM
Meltzer saying Saraya not medically cleared...

I don’t think that’s a signing you make if you don’t have something in mind for her as a contingency for if she isn’t cleared. She could be the voice of reason that convinces Jamie Hayter to stand up for herself and leave Britt, while behind-the-scenes could help them with expanding operations in the UK

She's got 2.7 million followers on Twitter, which is more than twice as many as AEW itself, so in terms of leveraging exposure and gaining potential viewers, it's not a terrible signing even if she can't wrestle, so long as there's something in mind for her.

Damian Rey 2.0
09-24-2022, 07:03 PM
I’ll be pretty bummed if she came in, given the reaction she got, just to be an ambassador and a coach.

xrodmuc316
09-24-2022, 08:32 PM
Paige in the future

https://i.imgflip.com/6ul6gu.gif

Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2022, 08:55 PM
Paige wasn’t very good guys.

Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2022, 08:58 PM
This signing is about:

* Snatching someone from WWE.

* The politics of signing a female star and someone with connections to a Rock movie.

* TK living out some fantasies.

There is no plan.

Fignuts
09-24-2022, 10:11 PM
Paige wasn’t very good guys.

She was hyped because she was better than most of the shitty divas at the time, but she doesn't hold a candle to what the division would become.

Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2022, 11:19 PM
She was hyped because she was better than most of the shitty divas at the time, but she doesn't hold a candle to what the division would become.

True. She was presented very well in NXT. She got exposed on the main roster and lost a lot of that carefully managed appeal.

Helmsphere
09-25-2022, 12:29 AM
Paige was amazing, pale skin, black hair, played up down, up down with Xavier Woods.

Helmsphere
09-25-2022, 12:31 AM
But totally agree, Paige was well ahead of the division at the time but was years behind Banks, Lynch and Bayley.

Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2022, 12:35 AM
I was heaps into her around 2013/2014, don’t get me wrong.

I think Tony was too. I’m very interested to see how this goes.

screech
09-25-2022, 09:13 AM
I liked Paige's Cradle DDT finisher

#1-norm-fan
09-25-2022, 11:14 AM
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/A8DuzxmyM_yx2NwgmmMedSbMiU0=/0x0:1534x1090/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1534x1090):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24043697/Screen_Shot_2022_09_21_at_11.46.51_PM.png

According to her win-loss record she is yet to see trios action. I beg to differ.

Fignuts
09-25-2022, 11:41 AM
What the fuck are some of those numbers? Does career include matches before they joined aew? Cause no way has Tay wrestled 71 matches since joining aew. But at the same time, Serena probaly has hundreds of matches under her belt

Lock Jaw
09-25-2022, 11:44 AM
Easy to boost up numbers when you have a bunch of YouTube shows that no one actually watches/cares about.

#1-norm-fan
09-25-2022, 11:52 AM
Yeah, looks like she’s been there over 2 years. Dark matches included, 71 seems about right. Means there’s about 40 tapings where she didn’t wrestle.

Sepholio
09-25-2022, 02:24 PM
Buddy Matthews interaction with Muta is believed to have been his last appearance for the company and he is now gone as well.

Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2022, 02:25 PM
Rats off a sinking ship.

Sepholio
09-25-2022, 02:26 PM
Someone start playing a violin.

Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2022, 02:28 PM
It’s funny to see some fans go from “Buddy Matthews is so good in the ring and was terribly misused in WWE” to “no big loss, he isn’t anything special anyway.”

Damian Rey 2.0
09-25-2022, 04:05 PM
Matthews was hardly on TV, in ring or otherwise. It’s not a bad thing that Tony starts trimming down the roster. A lot. Too many people, not enough hours of TV.

Damian Rey 2.0
09-25-2022, 04:13 PM
How long was Page actually avenue on the roster with Sasha, Bailey, Charlotte and Becky? She injured her neck in 2016 and she was finished the following year after surgery. Her return lasted like two months.

Idk how much they worked together in nxt, admittedly. I do know Paige had the fucking total divas cast to work with for the majority of her run, and I’m not going to judge her in ring abilities against that class of ring talent.

Ol Dirty Dastard
09-25-2022, 04:13 PM
Also, just because AEW isn't the happy enchanted mystical magical land, doesn't mean that it isn't good for the wrestling industry or firmly entrenched.

Lock Jaw
09-25-2022, 04:20 PM
How long was Page actually avenue on the roster with Sasha, Bailey, Charlotte and Becky? She injured her neck in 2016 and she was finished the following year after surgery. Her return lasted like two months.

Idk how much they worked together in nxt, admittedly. I do know Paige had the fucking total divas cast to work with for the majority of her run, and I’m not going to judge her in ring abilities against that class of ring talent.

Feel like Paige left NXT just before the women's division really "heated up" with the "4 Horsewomen" and then was only on the active main roster with them for a handful of months.

As mentioned, I really enjoyed her feud with AJ Lee, though....