All Elite Wrestling

[#1-norm-fan]

I want Dustin to get a nice little title run. Even if it is just an interim one that doesn’t end up counting.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Give Dustin his moment and use it to turn Cody into the entitled douchebag he’ll he’s supposed to be.

[TNARICK1]

Lmaoooo Jesus Christ now I remember why I muted your sorry ass in the first place. Yes, I’m sure the reason Tony Khan didn’t pat himself on was because Nyla Rose took an awkward hug on a CLEARLY STAGED BACKSTAGE TV SEGMENT. I see I’ve missed nothing.

Keep crying that xrod keeps owning your punk ass everyday you stupid ass AEW fanboy

[Jordan]

I want Dustin to get a nice little title run. Even if it is just an interim one that doesn’t end up counting.

Actually that would be more interesting to me than Sammy. This could perhaps be a way to properly turn Cody. Dustin takes interim champion and Cody starts to avoid Dustin and eventually tension builds and the match is booked. Cody has to get ultra violent to win and does a Hart/Austin style heel turn... Well really just a regular heel turn but I the way that Bret did.

[Lock Jaw]

I dunno, the last time Cody went into a match vs Dustin as a heel and got ultra violent and beat him into a bloody pulp he somehow ended up turning face right after and hugging him

[Jordan]

Cody is cracking. Making interviews saying how this heat is hurting his feelings, he used to do no wrong now he just can't get it right. He isn't John Cena, he's gonna cave and turn.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Keep crying that xrod keeps owning your punk ass everyday you stupid ass AEW fanboy

Lol, thanks for quoting this. Damian Rey is truly a different kind. He’s entered the BigCrippyZone.

[Sting Fan]

I like the idea of Dustin winning the Cody expecting Dustin to hand him the belt. But I am concerned it buries Sammy a bit.

I assumed Sammy was either winning the rematch or losing and going on some sort of redemption arc so I guess it’s down to what that particular plan is.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It could bury Sammy if it’s just a flat finish. But Dustin is smart enough to work out a way to make Sammy look great and like it was his experience that edged him out.

You could also do an angle after the match. Whoever Sammy’s next opponent is could get involved here.

[Sting Fan]

It could bury Sammy if it’s just a flat finish. But Dustin is smart enough to work out a way to make Sammy look great and like it was his experience that edged him out.

You could also do an angle after the match. Whoever Sammy’s next opponent is could get involved here.

I’m not much of a Sammy guy so putting that out there but my fear is he doesn’t have the mic skills to pull off the aftermath required.

Arrogantly smiling as you awkwardly flip through some signs is not enough to pull off a “I fell short, I need to be better, watch me do this” type story.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m not much of a Sammy guy so putting that out there but my fear is he doesn’t have the mic skills to pull off the aftermath required.

Arrogantly smiling as you awkwardly flip through some signs is not enough to pull off a “I fell short, I need to be better, watch me do this” type story.

Eh, I don’t disagree (although I haven’t seen that much of him lately). But maybe this is a chance for him to grow?

[Sting Fan]

That’s the dream in this situation I guess

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Keep crying that xrod keeps owning your punk ass everyday you stupid ass AEW fanboy

Shouldn’t you be meal prepping your ham salad sandwiches?

[slik]

wonder what this guy said to mjf to make him snap

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sorry I don’t fit your category of making my company diverse.</p>&mdash; Maxwell Jacob Friedman™️ (@The_MJF) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_MJF/status/1479954687935852547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

former tpww poster 'the mercenary' noted aew should not be praised for 'the forbidden door' because WWE did it first with smokey mountain wrestling in 1993

[weather vane]

Don’t love Sammy. Especially babyface Sammy.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I like babyface Sammy. He’s just not doing anything interesting outside of Tay Conti.

[weather vane]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Jordan]

Just want to state a fact about AEW.

AEW fucking rocks. It's not perfect but I think by far and large it's providing the best wrestling TV show in over 20+ years.

If you don't like AEW, you are a republican.

[Jordan]

If you don't like Cody, suck it. Cody is the biggest best baby in the buisness.

If you don't like The Young Bucks then you are a fucking nerd and have high cholesterol.

Mox is in shape. If you think Mox is fat, you know nothing about fitness.

Do you think good shape means 6% body fat, abs and ever muscle and sinew ripped and showing? Then you are gay.

Mox's bulk body is his best look ever, he's a real scary bastard who has addiction issues, why the shit should you see his abs? No. Mox does HIGH WEIGHT low rep workouts focusing on compound lifts like bench, overhead, row, deadlift and squat. He doesn't fuck around with anything else and he smokes a cigarette between sets.

[xrodmuc316]

Just want to state a fact about AEW.

AEW fucking rocks. It's not perfect but I think by far and large it's providing the best wrestling TV show in over 20+ years.

If you don't like AEW, you are a republican.

Do you dislike Republicans because they dislike AEW, or do you like AEW because you dislike Republicans? :?:

[Vastardikai]

Now, it's Kenny Omega's turn...

Among other things...

Someone showed disdain for Riho vs Baker, and one of the folks (who had a picture of him holding a child) was accused of Abducting and inappropriately touching said child by Kenny "I wrestled an 8 year old girl" Omega.

Deflected to Cornette's breathing when someone pointed out Marty Scurrl's issues.

Whined about being Cyberbullied in response to Tyler the Creator.

[GD]

"I am not racist, I am a minority!" Somehow Tony Khan thinks only white people (who he loves BTW) can be racist.

Did he say that? That's such a stupid thing to say.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Now, it's Kenny Omega's turn...

Among other things...

Someone showed disdain for Riho vs Baker, and one of the folks (who had a picture of him holding a child) was accused of Abducting and inappropriately touching said child by Kenny "I wrestled an 8 year old girl" Omega.

Deflected to Cornette's breathing when someone pointed out Marty Scurrl's issues.

Whined about being Cyberbullied in response to Tyler the Creator.

Holy shit, what a fucking nut-bag. I found the Twitter thread. I didn’t know what I expected after you described it, but holy shit. That’s really not the maturity an EVP should be demonstrating. I don’t see how Tony Khan can just ignore that.

Lol, he says Cornette wheezes and is difficult to listen to? This is coming from Kenny “Phone Sex Conversation” Omega? Does he really want to go after Cornette for his verbal ability? Self-destruction.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He’s probably just mad they got outmaneuvered by Impact Wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Or that he didn’t win Sports Illustrated’s Wrestler of 2021. Seriously wouldn’t surprise me.

[XL]

Just keep ‘em all off Twitter.

[Danny Electric]

The guy who started all the rubbish with Twitter is an Arsenal fan so that says it all. Plus he was trying to imply that Omega was up to dodgy things with Riho when she was a kid (how I interpreted it) from the picture he posted.
So in retaliation Omega was trying to make the point that someone could see the original posters pictire of him holding a kid and take it out of context.

[Sting Fan]

Now, it's Kenny Omega's turn...

Among other things...

Someone showed disdain for Riho vs Baker, and one of the folks (who had a picture of him holding a child) was accused of Abducting and inappropriately touching said child by Kenny "I wrestled an 8 year old girl" Omega.

Deflected to Cornette's breathing when someone pointed out Marty Scurrl's issues.

Whined about being Cyberbullied in response to Tyler the Creator.

The guy he replied to basically called him a paedo, he hit back with the same. I'm here for the petty, you want to go after someone because your jealous of there fame dont be suprised when they swing that fame back on to you.

[Bad News Gertner]

I just recently joined Twitter and my God, wrestling Twitter is something else lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was the accusation about Kenny that he was actually a paedo or that he did inappropriate things with children? Because wrestling with them is something I would call inappropriate. That shit’s gonna follow him.

Don’t think petty being met with petty when you have the public eye and all the power is a good excuse, tbh. Just block someone, move on. Saying something over the line and going on a rant about how you want to fight everyone because you’re being cyber-bullied just looks like shit.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I just recently joined Twitter and my God, wrestling Twitter is something else lol

It is the fucking worst

[Danny Electric]

Was the accusation about Kenny that he was actually a paedo or that he did inappropriate things with children? Because wrestling with them is something I would call inappropriate. That shit’s gonna follow him.

Don’t think petty being met with petty when you have the public eye and all the power is a good excuse, tbh. Just block someone, move on. Saying something over the line and going on a rant about how you want to fight everyone because you’re being cyber-bullied just looks like shit.

The guy was implying through his comments on the picture of Omega and a young Riho that there was reasonings that he is promoting her now, he said this ‘ To confirm, you do not believe that a grown man posing with a young child in this manner, who then X years later (igreater than a decade) he is still working with and promoting on Twitter after she has a wrestling match on a major US TV network, could be considered unusual?’

[Fignuts]

When you are not only a public figure for a company, but also hold a significant position within said company, you have a responsibility to be a bigger person and respond to such things more professionally.

I won't judge omega for this, because it's a sick accusation, and it's understandable that someone would "flip out" over it , but it was still the wrong response for a person of his station.

[Fignuts]

Also, Riho sucks.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

She’s so little

[Mr. Nerfect]

The guy was implying through his comments on the picture of Omega and a young Riho that there was reasonings that he is promoting her now, he said this ‘ To confirm, you do not believe that a grown man posing with a young child in this manner, who then X years later (igreater than a decade) he is still working with and promoting on Twitter after she has a wrestling match on a major US TV network, could be considered unusual?’

Okay, thanks for sharing. I mean, Omega’s going to get that shit for performing physical stunts with children. Honestly, the wrestling scenes that use children probably should be investigated a bit. The UK scene got a few rocks uncovered when the whole Speaking Out thing happened, and it’s horrible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When you are not only a public figure for a company, but also hold a significant position within said company, you have a responsibility to be a bigger person and respond to such things more professionally.

I won't judge omega for this, because it's a sick accusation, and it's understandable that someone would "flip out" over it , but it was still the wrong response for a person of his station.

Well said. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, Riho sucks.

Even better said. :y:

[xrodmuc316]

Now, it's Kenny Omega's turn...

Among other things...

Someone showed disdain for Riho vs Baker, and one of the folks (who had a picture of him holding a child) was accused of Abducting and inappropriately touching said child by Kenny "I wrestled an 8 year old girl" Omega.

Deflected to Cornette's breathing when someone pointed out Marty Scurrl's issues.

Whined about being Cyberbullied in response to Tyler the Creator.

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2022/01/kenny-omega-lashes-out-after-fans-criticize-aew-womens-wrestling/

In case nobody else wants to search for it.

AEW has the coolest management team EVER!

[slik]

I think Kenny shouldn't respond to the people individually, his initial tweet expressing annoyance at hateful comments was fine itself.

I also think people should stop freaking out about everything he did in DDT in Japan. It's a company known for comedy stuff and he's not the only guy in WWE/AEW who wrestled there.


https://i.postimg.cc/Xvv5BGF4/Screenshot-2022-01-09-2-20-03-PM.png

[slik]

Like, Koju Takeda's whole gimmick is practically being accidentally stripped/exposed on a regular basis and I personally am very fine with that gimmick lol

https://takeda-fan.tumblr.com/archive

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Kenny shouldn't respond to the people individually, his initial tweet expressing annoyance at hateful comments was fine itself.

I also think people should stop freaking out about everything he did in DDT in Japan. It's a company known for comedy stuff and he's not the only guy in WWE/AEW who wrestled there.


https://i.postimg.cc/Xvv5BGF4/Screenshot-2022-01-09-2-20-03-PM.png

I think his initial tweet was fine too. He should have left it there.

DDT sucks and them doing a lot of silly shit doesn’t excuse specific silly shit. Working with a kid is just stupid. So many things that can go wrong and come back to bite you.

[slik]

Emi Sakura's company in Japan, Chocopro, the matches basically take place in a setting that looks like a classroom and doesn't even have a ring.

I mean, who cares. Why do the Jim Cornettes of the world get riled up over such dumb shit.

[slik]

Goldberg's son is 15 years old and no one was outraged about him being involved.

I'm not a fan of kids wrestling, I think it's dangerous, but I'm not going to wind my gears up about something that's already happened.

[xrodmuc316]

I think Kenny shouldn't respond to the people individually, his initial tweet expressing annoyance at hateful comments was fine itself.

I also think people should stop freaking out about everything he did in DDT in Japan. It's a company known for comedy stuff and he's not the only guy in WWE/AEW who wrestled there.


https://i.postimg.cc/Xvv5BGF4/Screenshot-2022-01-09-2-20-03-PM.png

You cannot say you dislike trolls making mean comments AND THEN attack other people with comments like "you live in your mom's basement, you abducted a child, dont spill your bowl of cheetos" etc.

Fragile and thin skinned Kenny Omega smh

[slik]

yeah I don't disagree he's not handling it super well beyond his initial tweet.

I also think people just get so worked up and hateful over really dumb shit with wrestling. Not all wrestling is SUPER SERIOUS BUSINESS. Even in the US, we had Chikara. Not every company in Japan presents wrestling the same way, not every company in Mexico presents lucha libre the same way, ya know, it is what it is. I'm not saying comedy rasslin is my preference, it's generally not, but I don't really give a shit about who was in what comedy rasslin spot and hyperventilate on it like Cornette does.

[xrodmuc316]

yeah I don't disagree he's not handling it super well beyond his initial tweet.

I also think people just get so worked up and hateful over really dumb shit with wrestling. Not all wrestling is SUPER SERIOUS BUSINESS. Even in the US, we had Chikara. Not every company in Japan presents wrestling the same way, not every company in Mexico presents lucha libre the same way, ya know, it is what it is. I'm not saying comedy rasslin is my preference, it's generally not, but I don't really give a shit about who was in what comedy rasslin spot and hyperventilate on it like Cornette does.

Exactly right

[Jordan]

Funny to see how the AEW brass deal with negativity and criticism. They need to separate a bit and put up a curtain. Too much inside baseball all the time. Tony doing barstool shoot interviews about the ongoings of the company. I don't like it.

[Jordan]

I don't nesssicarily dislike Republicans

[Supreme Olajuwon]

wonder what this guy said to mjf to make him snap

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sorry I don’t fit your category of making my company diverse.</p>&mdash; Maxwell Jacob Friedman™️ (@The_MJF) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_MJF/status/1479954687935852547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The original post said something like MJF didn’t have to work hard because he’s white.

[GD]

That's a daft thing to say.

[Vastardikai]

yeah I don't disagree he's not handling it super well beyond his initial tweet.

I also think people just get so worked up and hateful over really dumb shit with wrestling. Not all wrestling is SUPER SERIOUS BUSINESS. Even in the US, we had Chikara. Not every company in Japan presents wrestling the same way, not every company in Mexico presents lucha libre the same way, ya know, it is what it is. I'm not saying comedy rasslin is my preference, it's generally not, but I don't really give a shit about who was in what comedy rasslin spot and hyperventilate on it like Cornette does.

Good thing nothing despicable ended up happening in Chikara (https://www.cagesideseats.com/indies-independent-wrestling-indy-promotions/2020/6/24/21302693/chikara-shut-down-sexual-abuse-allegations)...

[screech]

Funny to see how the AEW brass deal with negativity and criticism. They need to separate a bit and put up a curtain. Too much inside baseball all the time. Tony doing barstool shoot interviews about the ongoings of the company. I don't like it.

He's got the money to hire a PR team to handle all of this. I get wanting to be "accessible" but this is a bit silly.

[Vastardikai]

Only thing I can provably say about Omega is that he associates with questionable (https://www.cagesideseats.com/videos/2017/12/3/16730796/kenny-omega-joey-ryan-penis-being-the-elite)*, shitty (https://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe/was-chaysn-rance-ring-used-on-the-last-aew-ppv-5-14-21)** people (https://specialagent-dalecooper.tumblr.com/post/161397832660/marty-kenny-during-the-bosj-final).

I have said this before, but I wouldn't associate with Emi Sakura. Emi Sakura, has trained several extremely underaged girls. In between ICE Ribbon and ChocoPro, she ran Gatoh Move out of Thailand, one the world's biggest human trafficking hubs. Trained a bunch of girls, but doesn't provide a ring for them to work in?

Also, Japan didn't have a major "#MeToo" movement like the US and England did, let alone a "#SpeakingOut" movement. Luckily for several talents, I would imagine.

*All of one of the party's appearances in Being the Elite were scrubbed for some reason...
**At one point, Omega denied having ever met one of the parties involved in this story,despite him being wrestling at an event he booked. This photo was used to debunk that. During this most recent meltdown, he is claiming that he didn't know who this guy was and it was the only dealings he had with him. I am not a fan of Richochet, Zybysko, or Moose either.

[Sepholio]

God they need some PR people over there to tell these guys how to behave in interviews and on social media. Kenny is an EVP of an operation that is square in the public eye. He shouldn't even be responding to trolls like that. No wrestlers anywhere should for that matter. It's childish and beyond petty and just not a good look at all.

Feel like so many of these guys (and quite a few in WWE and other places too) were never told the golden roll of the internet, especially for famous people/content creators: DON'T READ THE COMMENTS. They never go the way you want them to.

[Jordan]

I always thought Kenny Omega was involved somehow in Asian sex trafficking but now I have proof.

[Fignuts]

You can't really blame Cornette for getting riled up about that stuff. He spent decades in the business, where protecting the illusion was the number 1 priority, and the slightest infraction could get you blacklisted. It's been ingrained into his very being since the 70's, and you can't just turn that off. You probably can't ever turn that off.

I think at this point, the toothpaste has been so far out of the tube for so long, that the comedy shit can't really do any more damage to this business. But it also doesn't help it in any way.

Now if some small company in bumfuck, Japan wants to do comedy shit, then whatever, I don't care. I have a problem with it, when you do completely ridiculous nonsense, and then try and present a serious wrestling show in the very next segment. That's a disconnect for me.

[Fignuts]

Only thing I can provably say about Omega is that he associates with questionable (https://www.cagesideseats.com/videos/2017/12/3/16730796/kenny-omega-joey-ryan-penis-being-the-elite)*, shitty (https://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe/was-chaysn-rance-ring-used-on-the-last-aew-ppv-5-14-21)** people (https://specialagent-dalecooper.tumblr.com/post/161397832660/marty-kenny-during-the-bosj-final).

I have said this before, but I wouldn't associate with Emi Sakura. Emi Sakura, has trained several extremely underaged girls. In between ICE Ribbon and ChocoPro, she ran Gatoh Move out of Thailand, one the world's biggest human trafficking hubs. Trained a bunch of girls, but doesn't provide a ring for them to work in?

Also, Japan didn't have a major "#MeToo" movement like the US and England did, let alone a "#SpeakingOut" movement. Luckily for several talents, I would imagine.

*All of one of the party's appearances in Being the Elite were scrubbed for some reason...
**At one point, Omega denied having ever met one of the parties involved in this story,despite him being wrestling at an event he booked. This photo was used to debunk that. During this most recent meltdown, he is claiming that he didn't know who this guy was and it was the only dealings he had with him. I am not a fan of Richochet, Zybysko, or Moose either.

All the possible women's promotions they could have partnered with and they picked the stupidest one.

Wwe was smart to partner with Meiko. Some legit wrestlers in her promotion.

[xrodmuc316]

This is how wrestlers on Twitter should be

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_LdyfJWQAcRfeK?format=jpg&name=large

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jay Lethal has now been missing from AEW television for 32 days, so I took matters into my own hands and contacted the authorities. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <br>WATCH: <a href="https://t.co/nx3cZ8co5T">https://t.co/nx3cZ8co5T</a> <a href="https://t.co/2k85osd5xP">pic.twitter.com/2k85osd5xP</a></p>&mdash; Alfred Konuwa (@ThisIsNasty) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThisIsNasty/status/1480309659202469888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

lmfaoooooo

[Jordan]

Lol nice one

[Jordan]

I am looking forward to the next Tony Khan lash out.

[Evil Vito]

Jim Cornette has a platform which allows him to accuse Omega of being some sort of pedophile for his friendship of Riho, not to mention saying disgusting shit about Riho, Shida, Emi, and Yuka by saying they’re only booked to fulfill Kenny’s fetishes. Unsurprisingly his cult then goes along with it and harass Kenny online about it all the time.

While I agree it’s best to walk away from trolls and not engage their terrible behavior, I can only imagine how grating it is to have to read this shit and have your friends belittled every single day. Everyone has a limit where they can’t take anymore.

Social media was one of humanity’s worst creations.

[Fignuts]

Cornette has not accused Kenny of pedophilia. He's suspected Kenny is more than friends with Riho now.

While joshi as a whole isn't what it used to be, there are still a lot of great female wrestlers in Japan. Riho, Emi, Shida, and Yuka are not names I would put on that shortlist.

As much as I enjoy cornettes podcast, and agree with his assessments, I would never join the Cult of Cornette. To many mouth breathing trolls. Cornette has reason to be so upset, for reasons I listed above. These mouth breathers have no excuse to harass people other than having mentality of a spoiled brat on xbox.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Emi Sakura's company in Japan, Chocopro, the matches basically take place in a setting that looks like a classroom and doesn't even have a ring.

I mean, who cares. Why do the Jim Cornettes of the world get riled up over such dumb shit.

It makes it harder for everyone to make a living trying to present a serious presentation. You can’t pass around the collection plate after telling people there is no God. You may not agree with the philosophy of taking wrestling seriously, but some people believe that credibility is the most crucial element to getting people to emotionally invest. And I think there is a very reasonable case to be made that the evidence supports this to be true.

You’ll get a few blokes having a yuck enjoying the “entertaining displays,” and that’s cool for them. But wrestling may also be in a hole because of it.

Goldberg's son is 15 years old and no one was outraged about him being involved.

I'm not a fan of kids wrestling, I think it's dangerous, but I'm not going to wind my gears up about something that's already happened.

Eh, I’m not a fan of the Goldberg stuff either. Get in his face after beating his dad and make it personal. No reason to get a kid to even take a slight bump for that drama. It was actually a very “edgy” thing they did, in their own cartoonish way.

Only thing I can provably say about Omega is that he associates with questionable (https://www.cagesideseats.com/videos/2017/12/3/16730796/kenny-omega-joey-ryan-penis-being-the-elite)*, shitty (https://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe/was-chaysn-rance-ring-used-on-the-last-aew-ppv-5-14-21)** people (https://specialagent-dalecooper.tumblr.com/post/161397832660/marty-kenny-during-the-bosj-final).

I have said this before, but I wouldn't associate with Emi Sakura. Emi Sakura, has trained several extremely underaged girls. In between ICE Ribbon and ChocoPro, she ran Gatoh Move out of Thailand, one the world's biggest human trafficking hubs. Trained a bunch of girls, but doesn't provide a ring for them to work in?

Also, Japan didn't have a major "#MeToo" movement like the US and England did, let alone a "#SpeakingOut" movement. Luckily for several talents, I would imagine.

*All of one of the party's appearances in Being the Elite were scrubbed for some reason...
**At one point, Omega denied having ever met one of the parties involved in this story,despite him being wrestling at an event he booked. This photo was used to debunk that. During this most recent meltdown, he is claiming that he didn't know who this guy was and it was the only dealings he had with him. I am not a fan of Richochet, Zybysko, or Moose either.

Excellent post. I don’t know the context behind the Ricochet point though.

God they need some PR people over there to tell these guys how to behave in interviews and on social media. Kenny is an EVP of an operation that is square in the public eye. He shouldn't even be responding to trolls like that. No wrestlers anywhere should for that matter. It's childish and beyond petty and just not a good look at all.

Feel like so many of these guys (and quite a few in WWE and other places too) were never told the golden roll of the internet, especially for famous people/content creators: DON'T READ THE COMMENTS. They never go the way you want them to.

Another excellent post.

You can't really blame Cornette for getting riled up about that stuff. He spent decades in the business, where protecting the illusion was the number 1 priority, and the slightest infraction could get you blacklisted. It's been ingrained into his very being since the 70's, and you can't just turn that off. You probably can't ever turn that off.

I think at this point, the toothpaste has been so far out of the tube for so long, that the comedy shit can't really do any more damage to this business. But it also doesn't help it in any way.

Now if some small company in bumfuck, Japan wants to do comedy shit, then whatever, I don't care. I have a problem with it, when you do completely ridiculous nonsense, and then try and present a serious wrestling show in the very next segment. That's a disconnect for me.

Nailing it.

Jim Cornette has a platform which allows him to accuse Omega of being some sort of pedophile for his friendship of Riho, not to mention saying disgusting shit about Riho, Shida, Emi, and Yuka by saying they’re only booked to fulfill Kenny’s fetishes. Unsurprisingly his cult then goes along with it and harass Kenny online about it all the time.

While I agree it’s best to walk away from trolls and not engage their terrible behavior, I can only imagine how grating it is to have to read this shit and have your friends belittled every single day. Everyone has a limit where they can’t take anymore.

Social media was one of humanity’s worst creations.

Oh, shut up. Cornette has done no such thing. The closest he ever came to insulting Omega that way was referencing “abusing children,” which Brian Last pulled him up on, and Cornette clarified he meant in the kayfabe act of wrestling them. Which happened. Cornette almost definitely has nothing to do with this.

And the shit about Emi Sakura, et al? There’s a point to be made there. They’re not very good wrestlers and there’s definitely an element of sleaze involved in how Emi promotes. You might be fine with a little sleaze in your promoting with consenting adults and whatever, but it doesn’t make reporting on it inaccurate.

[xrodmuc316]

"My dad marveled when he meet Hook because, you know, my dad took me to ECW when I was a kid, and when I was 13 years old, my dad was there in Philly with me,” Khan said. “And my dad saw Taz. I was wearing a big orange Taz shirt the whole weekend. Well, not the whole weekend. I had a Darth Vader shirt on Friday, but the Saturday, I had an orange Taz shirt. I gotta tell you, my dad was so impressed [with Taz]. He said to Hook, ‘You know, your dad’s a tough guy. Like, I was in this place and that place was no joke. And he was like, the king of that place.’ And like, both Taz and Hook were so proud.”

This is like, a 40 year old man, and he is like talking like you know, he is STILL like 13 years old...

At least his goofy self took the time to let us know he didn't wear the SAME shirt all weekend :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Imagine if he didn’t clarify that he wore a different shirt one day and then a picture started circulating from that weekend where he was wearing a different shirt.

Imagine the meltdown.

“LOL he said he was wearing the same shirt all weekend and here’s PROOF that he wasn’t! Stupid lying Tony at it again!”

[Wehttam]

autism on autism violence needs to end

[Jordan]

The world marvels at Hook. Taz, what a specimen himself.

[Vastardikai]

Excellent post. I don’t know the context behind the Ricochet point though.

Ricochet and Moose have trained at Vision One Dojo (Rance's school.) Larry has funded it and even had him living with him at one point.


Oh, shut up. Cornette has done no such thing. The closest he ever came to insulting Omega that way was referencing “abusing children,” which Brian Last pulled him up on, and Cornette clarified he meant in the kayfabe act of wrestling them. Which happened. Cornette almost definitely has nothing to do with this.

And the shit about Emi Sakura, et al? There’s a point to be made there. They’re not very good wrestlers and there’s definitely an element of sleaze involved in how Emi promotes. You might be fine with a little sleaze in your promoting with consenting adults and whatever, but it doesn’t make reporting on it inaccurate.

A few things on this 1. I think Cornette has accused Omega of having a sexual relationship with Riho at one point, based on how he books her. Likely not knowing how long the parties have known each other. In other words, despite dismissing her as a "Japanese School Girl," Omega actually knew her as a Japanese School Girl.

Going back to Rance, he has something in common with Sakura: Both train underaged girls in their schools (even after Rance was convicted of molestation.).

[xrodmuc316]

Rockstar Spud/Drake Maverick is the real scumbag, fighting a one year old!

MhGOvUC9oG4

[XL]

I agree that these guys need to learn how to conduct themselves on Twitter, however, the bar has been set very low by a then-in office POTUS. Gonna take some time for the platform to “correct itself”.

[Vastardikai]

Rockstar Spud/Drake Maverick is the real scumbag, fighting a one year old!

MhGOvUC9oG4

finally, someone Spud can look menacing against. :shifty:

[xrodmuc316]

finally, someone Spud can look menacing against. :shifty:

Maxel is probably 4 or 5 now, so he could win a shoot fight right now over Tony Khan :rofl:

[xrodmuc316]

LOL This Fucking Company, in today's World how have they not been cancelled?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes. AEW fans need therapy. <br><br>Everyone needs therapy, yet the access to therapy is complex and impossible for most people. <br><br>This tweet is embarrassing and more indication a training on social media etiquette for those who hold the passwords to these accounts. <a href="https://t.co/mQpIepB31N">pic.twitter.com/mQpIepB31N</a></p>&mdash; Auntie with the good tits 🏳️█🌈 (@collzorgs) <a href="https://twitter.com/collzorgs/status/1480675291496267777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have no idea why people are trying to explain the AEW therapy tweet to me 😂 <br><br>it’s received differently without the graphic.<br><br>But it wasn’t tweeted without the graphic.<br><br>It was received how it was presented, and that’s why it got deleted.</p>&mdash; Northwest Cee (@CeeHawk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CeeHawk/status/1480904536655110144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Making a joke or mockery of ppl going to therapy when one of their top stars Moxley just went and Omega is on the verge of going, is a very bad look for AEW<br><br>The disastrous 2022 continues for AEW<br><br>SMH <a href="https://t.co/XBlmMLQAGB">https://t.co/XBlmMLQAGB</a></p>&mdash; JobberNationTV: THE REALITY CHECK FOR THE IWC (@JobberNationTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JobberNationTV/status/1480724689982930944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sure is me, you cunt. At a show. Post vax, pre omicron, had to show proof of vax to gain entrance. NOT STALKING ANYONE AT AN AIRPORT OR A HOTEL. How stupid are you? <a href="https://t.co/5mEseS94kR">https://t.co/5mEseS94kR</a></p>&mdash; player/coach (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1481072700256931844?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

:nono:

[Jordan]

Punk gonna snap and go home eventually.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With his biggest match to date happening later tonight, I can confirm, without hesitation, that WWE will be extremely interested in luring Wardlow away from AEW when his contract is due. There are several people within World Wrestling Entertainment that LOVE his potential.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1481275092298567688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With his biggest match to date happening later tonight, I can confirm, without hesitation, that WWE will be extremely interested in luring Wardlow away from AEW when his contract is due. There are several people within World Wrestling Entertainment that LOVE his potential.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1481275092298567688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is the new thing now, AEW leaks these stories so they can play up to the perception that they are the best by saying "oh WWE really wants this guy and that guy from us".

WWE wants people who are coming out of college, athletes in their early 20's they can create from scratch, not a mid 30's Indy guy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is the new thing now, AEW leaks these stories so they can play up to the perception that they are the best by saying "oh WWE really wants this guy and that guy from us".

WWE wants people who are coming out of college, athletes in their early 20's they can create from scratch, not a mid 30's Indy guy.

Yes. And I think that a lot of people in AEW are persona non grata, frankly. They don’t need you. You’re not a star. We’ll build our own or take people from this place instead.

[Jordan]

WWE looking at WARDLOW to feud with Roman and Lesnar, potential new Undertake role that's been worked called "GRAVEDIGGER" apparently WWE has been in contact with Monster Truck about a licensing of that classic American trademark.

[#1-norm-fan]

WWE looking at WARDLOW to feud with Roman and Lesnar, potential new Undertake role that's been worked called "GRAVEDIGGER" apparently WWE has been in contact with Monster Truck about a licensing of that classic American trademark.

Just bring in the truck itself as a wrestler. Fuck it. A wrestler was eaten by zombies after a match last year. Slap some CGI arms on that beast and book your WrestleMania main event.

[Vastardikai]

We may have to rename this the "Official AEW Twitter Meltdown Thread" at this rate.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Apparently it’s not only the big time that comes with pressure.

[Mr. Nerfect]

CM Punk should probably take the therapy option.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, AEW is putting out a rap album featuring its black talent telling the story of their come-up for Black History Month. A lot of people are already dunking on them for being tone-deaf. Brandi has even come out and said “I have nothing to do with this, so please give it a chance.”

You can’t make this shit up.

[xrodmuc316]

Lol, AEW is putting out a rap album featuring its black talent telling the story of their come-up for Black History Month. A lot of people are already dunking on them for being tone-deaf. Brandi has even come out and said “I have nothing to do with this, so please give it a chance.”

You can’t make this shit up.

I am sure that has been long planned and wasn't a knee jerk reaction to Big Swole drama or anything :rofl:

[Sepholio]

If you ask me I think putting out a rap album is basic thuganomics.

[Lock Jaw]

Remember that one clip of Punk shouting at a fan "you have a vagina!!"

Wonder how quick he would get canceled if he did it today...

[Jordan]

Lol, AEW is putting out a rap album featuring its black talent telling the story of their come-up for Black History Month. A lot of people are already dunking on them for being tone-deaf. Brandi has even come out and said “I have nothing to do with this, so please give it a chance.”

You can’t make this shit up.

I've always wanted to hear Shoddy Lee Johnson and Private Party lay down some tracks!

[Jordan]

I think that Tony has blown it with Andrade. When Andrade came into town he certainly had a breathe of fresh air about him and seemed to be immediately launched into the main event scene. There was a few weeks of exciting stuff with Andrade and then... Whatever he's doing now.

I don't mean to sound dramatic but I think they've blown it with him. Now he just cuts random quick inaudible backstage segments and has a TERRIBLE manager.

Maybe Flair's Darkside controversy did cost Andrade a major angle for AEW and now they are regrouping creatively for Andrade, but I feel the quick chance of having a new legit main eventer in Andrade is out the window. I'm almost at the point where I think Andrade shouldn't get resigned when negotiations come up, especially if he only signed for a year initially.

[screech]

He was nearly "canceled" for it at the time, wasn't he?

[#1-norm-fan]

The TPWW Right to Say Stupid Things Initiative should extend to “Wrestling Twitter”.

Therefore I’d like to officially condemn CM Punk for calling that guy stupid just because he said something stupid.

[Lock Jaw]

He was nearly "canceled" for it at the time, wasn't he?

I don't think so. Not even close. The reception seemed more "ha ha Punk funny" from the majority

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Andrade can’t speak English and they clearly aren’t interested in giving him a mouthpiece as opposed to letting him learn to cut his own promos. It’s a shame Zelina went back to WWE. In the meantime, Andrade had a great series with Pac, a great match with Cody and now they’re regrouping with him. It’s fine. Until he gets a mouthpiece or his English jumps leaps and bounds, he’s going to be limited in how far you can go with him. He’s fine. He’s still being regularly featured and presented well. He’s just in a holding pattern.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He had to apologize for it almost immediately after if I recall. He also called him a homo and asked if his name was Sally. The blowback was almost immediate. Today he’d get dragged relentlessly but it didn’t fly under the radar at the time.

[slik]

I like Daniel Garcia's twitter account because every time he loses a match he provides a technical explanation of why


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve seen many people get caught by Sammy’s leapfrog, backflip evasion, dropkick on AEW, and years before that on the independents. He gains momentum with this pattern in his matches, and it’s hard to slow him down once he hits it. I thought this was the solution. <a href="https://t.co/EkrkV4p7zW">https://t.co/EkrkV4p7zW</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Garcia (@GarciaWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/GarciaWrestling/status/1481510984728592384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

That's great. So many wrestlers break character on social media. Very cool to see someone specifically use it to keep kayfabe alive.

[ron the dial]

it seems like a lot of indie cats use social media for the same reason. i'm thinking specifically of effy, especially his feud with matt cardona. he's doing the same thing now building up the match with jeff jarrett. it's really cool to see instead of it being the place where folks just go fuck it, i post whatever i want.

[Jordan]

Very excited for House of Black. I feel they are going to get over huge and the tag division is endless right now.

[GD]

Something that truly baffles me is how the IWC gives him a free pass for ditching his friend during a highly contested trial.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Remember that one clip of Punk shouting at a fan "you have a vagina!!"

Wonder how quick he would get canceled if he did it today...

People can always dig that stuff up, and he can always say “different time, I’ve changed.” It may even be true. But this was another shitty thing to do that can be added to the CM Punk pile. He is likely to really put his foot in it one day.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like Daniel Garcia's twitter account because every time he loses a match he provides a technical explanation of why


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve seen many people get caught by Sammy’s leapfrog, backflip evasion, dropkick on AEW, and years before that on the independents. He gains momentum with this pattern in his matches, and it’s hard to slow him down once he hits it. I thought this was the solution. <a href="https://t.co/EkrkV4p7zW">https://t.co/EkrkV4p7zW</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Garcia (@GarciaWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/GarciaWrestling/status/1481510984728592384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good for him. This is the sort of thing wrestling Twitter should be used for.

[Fignuts]

Something that truly baffles me is how the IWC gives him a free pass for ditching his friend during a highly contested trial.

Was there any documented proof that colt was in the right, or was it a case of he said she said?

[Triple A]

Shida "going to Japan"... seems like Deeb attacking her leg was a way to write her off for a while

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m so sorry that the last match before I go back to Japan had to end like that. <br>I had a lot of things I wanted to do in Japan, but now I will rest my leg as much as I can.<br>.<br>I’LL BE BACK.<br>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/MJ5grpezTU">pic.twitter.com/MJ5grpezTU</a></p>&mdash; HIKARU SHIDA 志田 光 (@shidahikaru) <a href="https://twitter.com/shidahikaru/status/1481727268422569984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

I think that Tony has blown it with Andrade.

Tony Khan does not know how to book. Everything is a run in to set up the next match. Rinse and Repeat

[Triple A]

I really wish they would stop so heavily using the run in or "beat down after the match" stuff tbh... seems like 2-5 times per show for the past few months, seems lazy. Feel like the first year was much more creative

[Sting Fan]

I really wish they would stop so heavily using the run in or "beat down after the match" stuff tbh... seems like 2-5 times per show for the past few months, seems lazy. Feel like the first year was much more creative

I think its a side affect of the "everyones aligned with someone mentality", it does feel over used at times but I think without it and the multi man matches (which I love btw) people would feel even more lost in the shuffle.

Upsides and downsides to a massive roster and maybe there missing a central figure to book stuff as opposed to the "norm" or what were used too.

I like the wins and losses matter, I like the way there using lesser shoes to pad stats to give guys reasons and look credible but it does feel like its either a grudge match or a contenders match. Almost needs some other device to book stuff preferably without "insert evil authority figure here".

I think another side affect of it all is the way people go missing of TV for a few weeks, but I don't really mind that either. Knowing how much of a toll this takes on performers a few weeks off here or there keeps the charachter fresh and gives performers a break.

Its all intertwined a bit I think.

[Jordan]

Is it a bad idea to bring on Gabe? I mean Tony has a lot of jobs between all he does with AEW and the two football teams. Is he married with kids? He should get someone to share the load with.

[Sepholio]

I would like the wins and losses matter bit if they actually mattered. Lance Archer is getting a title feud right now based on nothing.

Go look at AEWs official rankings right now. Adam Cole is ranked #1.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Quick google search says there was an alleged verbal agreement between the two. Maybe there’s more but if that’s all it was then it’s he said she said. Seeing as both suits were dropped I’d guess neither had any evidence to favor one side or the other. I also don’t see why IWC would give a shit. That’s a personal issue between those.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The ratings just reset. Archer only needs a few wins to shoot up the rankings. If this were a month or so ago I’d agree.

[Sting Fan]

I would like the wins and losses matter bit if they actually mattered. Lance Archer is getting a title feud right now based on nothing.

Go look at AEWs official rankings right now. Adam Cole is ranked #1.

Yeah but I think thats the key to they matter vs. they are the only thing that matters. Cole is a central piece of the show and when they mentioned he was #1 ranked I wasnt surprised at all, it felt right. But right now hes sidetracked on a bit of a grudge series with OC. This isnt uncommon in Boxing or MMA either.

I think it also adds credence sometimes to guys you dont see so much like Bear Country. Cant remember if it was ranking or number of wins they talked about on the Dynamite but as a guy who hasnt seen them much it gave them instant credence with me as a viewer.

Seems like Archer will face Hangman for Revolution but I assume Cole will be his next big feud.

[Sepholio]

You can't have it both ways. Either wins and losses matter or they don't. Cole shouldn't be the number #1 contender yet and Archer shouldn't be getting another title shot.

Cole is 13-4. Archer is 41-11. Wardlow is 40-6. The one with the best track record there is the only one not in the title picture.

[Sepholio]

Sammy Guevara is 24-15 in singles competition. Why is he even anywhere near any title when there are prob at least 20 guys with better records?

[xrodmuc316]

If I remember correctly Colt had communication from the lawyer that Phil was paying, and some text messages too. Everything was cool until Colt visited with friends when WWE was in town. Phil took that shit personally because he is a fragile ego bitch and suddenly wanted money after that.

[Sting Fan]

You can't have it both ways. Either wins and losses matter or they don't. Cole shouldn't be the number #1 contender yet and Archer shouldn't be getting another title shot.

Cole is 13-4. Archer is 41-11. Wardlow is 40-6. The one with the best track record there is the only one not in the title picture.

Sure you can... for a start its all make believe. None of the oiled up muscle men slapping each other in undies are out to actually hurt each other. I feel like I covered it above with wins and losses matter, but there not all that matters.

You can have rankings and be side tracked if your highly ranked, you can use rankings for relevance of others on the list. You can also have your #1 contender face the champion on a nightly basis if you so wish. I woudlnt advise it.

Even in combat sports that arent pre determined the #1 ranked person not getting the next shot or picking there spot to take a shot if they can isnt unheard of.

[Sepholio]

LOL. That's a whole lot of spin for what amounts to "I know records don't matter just let me pretend they do because AEW says they do".

[Sting Fan]

LOL. That's a whole lot of spin for what amounts to "I know records don't matter just let me pretend they do because AEW says they do".

I'm watching oiled up muscle men in undies pretend to slap each other about... If this is the hill your dying on for suspension of disbelief I don't know what to tell you.

How anyone can argue "Its not realistic" while straight faced after watching a "Deadman" sit atop the sport for 30 odd years I dont know. Thats before we discuss the 30 odd moments of ridiculous contrived movements in even the greatest matches of all time.

[Sepholio]

What are you even talking about? Who is talking about suspension of disbelief? Do you even know what that term means? Everyone knows it's fake. No one is arguing that it "isn't realistic". I'm saying that the whole "records matter" trope is patently false. It's a lie.

You said records matter. They don't. Period. That's all this discussion has been about. Why are you deflecting with ridiculous unrelated claims that would make Xrod blush?

[Sepholio]

Can't believe you can't see how ridiculous your argument is. Your first post literally states that you like how wins and losses matter and yet you admit in every subsequent post that they don't actually matter. What are you even doing here?

[xrodmuc316]

The ratings just reset.

Yeah, reset back to under a million :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Sepholio]

The ratings just reset. Archer only needs a few wins to shoot up the rankings. If this were a month or so ago I’d agree.

Sorry I missed this. I know they reset. I also know bryan is ranked #3 in the new rankings with a losing record this years and is ahead of guys with winning records.

Serious question: When is the last time the rankings were used at all in factoring in who gets the next title program? Because for quite a while now the spot haa been given to whichever guy wins a tournament/ladder match/battle royal or just whoever does a run in on the champ.

[Sepholio]

Id like to clarify that i dont personally have a problem with whos been in the title picture. Its been a good scene. This argument is purely based on the whole records matter thing. Personally I always thought having records matter in a scripted show was a stupid idea. Youd either have the same guys at the top all time or your booking of people would have to be wildly inconsistent to rotate the people at the top of the rankings.

[Maluco]

Very excited for House of Black. I feel they are going to get over huge and the tag division is endless right now.

After all that hype and that amazing entrance, that even had my brother message me and ask who he was (despite having not watched wrestling for a decade), is he going to be a tag guy now?

If so, that is really poor. He had people talking when he came in and should have been pushed to the moon.

[GD]

I’ve heard xrod’s version of it. Also, Punk has a history of being a difficult friend. The IWC does tend to be opinionated about personal matters, yeah?

[GD]

Not denying that Punk’s a joy to watch when it comes to in-ring completion and promos.

[GD]

He even paid for Mercury’s house when it was going to be foreclosed :(

[xrodmuc316]

He even paid for Mercury’s house when it was going to be foreclosed :(

LOL so he made a payment on a different friend's house, so to balance things out he decided to screw over Colt?

[GD]

We don’t know that for sure. We need further proof.

[Sting Fan]

Can't believe you can't see how ridiculous your argument is. Your first post literally states that you like how wins and losses matter and yet you admit in every subsequent post that they don't actually matter. What are you even doing here?

I also quite clearly gave an example of Bear Country who I couldn't give a fuck about and being surprised when there ranking (or W-L) was mentioned made me double take and view them in a more positive light. Hence it matters.

I cant understand how your not seeing what I'm saying, How about we each believe the others an idiot and move on?

[Sepholio]

You're definitely doing a good job of making everyone believe you're an idiot.

[Sepholio]

The rankings matter because they make you feel better about people with good records. Not because they are used like, you know, actual rankings to determine the pecking order.

LOL, k.

[Sepholio]

I'll take distinguishing between subjective and objective reasoning for $1,000, Alex.

[Evil Vito]

I thought the rankings and stat tracking was a neat idea but this long into the promotion it's proving to be a hindrance.

The example I keep going back to - Evil Uno and Stu Grayson haven't worked a regular tag match for AEW since September. And in early 2021 they were barely tagging either. They always end up in trios matches instead. This is because they don't want them racking up wins where they have to get a tag title shot, but they don't want them taking losses either. It's clunky and restrictive.

[Fignuts]

Doesn't have to be. They could have just given them a title shot on dynamite or something. The ranking could add unique and different kinds of storytelling, but it requires work and planning. So far they've been very lazy in how they've utilized it.

[xrodmuc316]

After all that hype and that amazing entrance, that even had my brother message me and ask who he was (despite having not watched wrestling for a decade), is he going to be a tag guy now?

If so, that is really poor. He had people talking when he came in and should have been pushed to the moon.

Tony Khan Booker of the Year :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

The ranking system was and always will be a bad idea. The beauty of pro-wrestling is that you can control things. Having a fixed scorecard takes away elements of your control. You end up at the mercy of the stats. The emotional connection to a push is way more important than how many wins they’ve actually had.

[xrodmuc316]

Not exactly a tweet, but AEW employee Dave Meltzer making a Holocaust joke about WWE, because they are the same thing apparently.

https://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/news/73413/Dave-Meltzer-Apologizes-For-Making-Holocaust-Joke-About-WWE/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As someone who lost multiple family members in the holocaust I take it beyond seriously. The line was to <br>bring up the question of using the term Elimination Chamber in Saudi Arabia. Obviously it was meant as a message but I apologize for those who were offended by it. <a href="https://t.co/sXbVV1iJWR">https://t.co/sXbVV1iJWR</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1482016279921782785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

Fucking Tony Khan :nono:

[xrodmuc316]

Dave apologized for the people who got offended.

He did not apologize for offending people. He did not apologize TO the offended people.

He apologized to his Cultist that people were offended. The offended people are the problem!

Isn't this tool supposed to a professional writer??? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[GD]

lol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Maluco]

Wrestling is all about capitalizing on the buzz when someone is hot. You need to be free to do that. WWE is rotten nowadays, but AEW are proving to be the worst at capitalizing on the buzz. Malakai Black looked awesome, and now he is going to tag? What?

CM Punk’s return was called “one of the most anticipated nights in a a decade” by one wrestling article, and then he wrestled Bobby Fish, some guy called Garcia and QT Marshall and feuded with some Indy guy that no casual will have ever heard of (Kingston)

You jump on someone when they are hot. No casual is tuning in now no matter what is next. You have stuck the red hot iron in cold water.

It would be like Undertaker coming back after one of his breaks and getting into it with Crash Holly before having random matches with Val Venis and Steve Blackman on Smackdown and Superstars. Completely bizarre.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No casual is tuning in period.

I’m fine with the rankings but they need to set it up like power rankings. Punk beating Darby is a big deal. He was relatively fresh off a long title reign and immensely popular. If they ranked guys on quality of wins instead the rankings would work better.

Add it stands I think they’re fine. It almost worked to get Hangman back into the main event scene before he took off for daddy duty. They used it to push Jurassic Express (who should’ve been the one to dethrone the Bucks). It’s hit and miss but it certainly hasn’t hindered their booking.

When they get somebody like Abadon rising up its not difficult to give her a throwaway title match on free TV.

But Vito is right. It’s been clunky.

[Destor]

didn't you guys hear? casuals are make believe

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like Daniel Garcia. I don’t love him. I think he’s way overexposed in his current spot. But if he was in an OVW or NXT I think he would stand out heaps. He carries himself seriously. They just like to tell and not show. And when it’s time to tell they just show.

[slik]

they should bring in sylvester stallone for a 'celebrity match' with chris jericho

[Sepholio]

no way he should face Dolph Lundgren instead

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks for bringing this stat to my attention! I really had no idea that I’ve had the most main events in the past 6 months. Very proud of myself. If you like what you see now, strap in for the next 15 years or so. <a href="https://t.co/0cGxcteLS5">https://t.co/0cGxcteLS5</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Garcia (@GarciaWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/GarciaWrestling/status/1482108565636669440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I can’t imagine not liking Daniel García. Everything he does looks good, and he’s the perfect foil to feed to the upset midcard guys. Him with 2.0 has been great.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE comment on AEW in new Toronto Star article: <br>&quot;If you look at the gory self-mutilation that bloodied several women in the December 31 event on TNT, it quickly becomes clear that these are very different businesses.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/k97KsH4GSt">https://t.co/k97KsH4GSt</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1482422202196795392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To a Canadian outlet. Where AEW is really popular and NEW there. Due to COVID, there's extreme pent up demand for a show there. A significant % of the roster are Canadian. Will probably be hotter there than Chicago and New York. <a href="https://t.co/P2HG5MqfqY">https://t.co/P2HG5MqfqY</a></p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1482435411431628801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dynamite even does better ratings on tv in Canada than Raw, Smackdown and NXT. <a href="https://t.co/ATzIbLhgNo">https://t.co/ATzIbLhgNo</a></p>&mdash; Blue_Fox98 (@AcpwFox98) <a href="https://twitter.com/AcpwFox98/status/1482437897265496064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Someone from Canada provided some perspective on the ratings in Canada for me. They said the Dynamite beats Raw and SmackDown thing is misleading. Dynamite is shown once, which is when you have to watch it. Raw and SmackDown and both apparently replayed throughout the week. They sell advertising to that as well. Obviously people watch them.

AEW Rampage apparently isn’t even shown on cable (this is despite their popularity, of course), and they don’t even have a slot in Australia, which is a pretty big market to miss out on.

[xrodmuc316]

Somebody with Twitter, tweet this WWE quote about AEW to Tony Khan and enjoy the meltdown:

“If you look at the gory self-mutilation that bloodied several women in the December 31 event on TNT, it quickly becomes clear that these are very different businesses,” WWE stated. “We had an edgier product in the ‘Attitude’ era and in a 2022 world, we don’t believe that type of dangerous and brutal display is appealing to network partners, sponsors, venues, children, or the general public as a whole.”

[Verbose Minch]

Somebody with Twitter, tweet this WWE quote about AEW to Tony Khan and enjoy the meltdown:

“If you look at the gory self-mutilation that bloodied several women in the December 31 event on TNT, it quickly becomes clear that these are very different businesses,” WWE stated. “We had an edgier product in the ‘Attitude’ era and in a 2022 world, we don’t believe that type of dangerous and brutal display is appealing to network partners, sponsors, venues, children, or the general public as a whole.”

The Bunny drawing more than Reigns has broken Vince mentally hahahahaha

[xrodmuc316]

The Bunny drawing more than Reigns has broken Vince mentally hahahahaha

Draw - A wrestler or program that attracts the attention of the audience; someone fans are willing to pay to see. Derived from the term "drawing money", meaning the wrestler makes money for the promotion.

If AEW is in the red, that would suggest they have zero draws.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just a stupid tweet by Meltzer. I’ve got my issues with the WWE/Saudi deal too. But yes, you’re going to have this issue comes up when you’re promoting fantasy violence in any sort of place that conducts or has conducted any sort of infamous violence. The WWE might temporarily or permanently change the gimmick’s name if it is going to be a fixture this time of year. Their new thing is to use the WrestleMania logo to promote the show as much as possible. WrestleMania Backlash last year, WrestleMania Chamber this year.

[Verbose Minch]

Draw - A wrestler or program that attracts the attention of the audience; someone fans are willing to pay to see. Derived from the term "drawing money", meaning the wrestler makes money for the promotion.

If AEW is in the red, that would suggest they have zero draws.


However ya gotta spin it, brother. Just nice to see WWE acknowledging the true tribal chief

[Bad News Gertner]

Meltzer is Jewish

[#1-norm-fan]

Holy fucking shit @ people getting offended by that tweet. I’m very upset that I instituted a “no mocking stupid posts” rule right now.

[xrodmuc316]

Holy fucking shit @ people getting offended by that tweet. I’m very upset that I instituted a “no mocking stupid posts” rule right now.

Does that apply to people being upset on Twitter?

Personally I would not use the murder of 6 Million people to make a "Fed Bad" argument, but a bad joke is still a joke. It does show the length people are willing to go in the name of AEW. Almost like they write something else besides their own name when signing...

https://i.imgflip.com/61c7en.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Lol @ awkwardly trying that joke again.

[#1-norm-fan]

Does that apply to people being upset on Twitter?


Good question!

No. Only unbelievably dumb, possibly brain damage-induced TPWW posts are protected from ridicule under this new initiative.

[xrodmuc316]

Lol @ awkwardly trying that joke again.

It was not awkward at all, making a Phil joke is as easy as Sunny getting back in jail!

[#1-norm-fan]

A whole thread couldn’t get anyone to sell your joke. You’re welcome. In fact I may just head back over to that thread and scold everyone for not giving you the attention you wanted with your first attempt! New initiative: All jokes, even bad ones that may be a sign of a serious mental issue, must be given positive attention IMMEDIATELY!

[Verbose Minch]

A whole thread couldn’t get anyone to sell your joke. You’re welcome. In fact I may just head back over to that thread and scold everyone for not giving you the attention you wanted with your first attempt! New initiative: All jokes, even bad ones that may be a sign of a serious mental issue, must be given positive attention IMMEDIATELY!

What's great about that "joke", is that if he had any sort of knowledge of cards, he'd know that there are whole lines dedicated to players writing things other than their signatures on them

[xrodmuc316]

A whole thread couldn’t get anyone to sell your joke. You’re welcome. In fact I may just head back over to that thread and scold everyone for not giving you the attention you wanted with your first attempt! New initiative: All jokes, even bad ones that may be a sign of a serious mental issue, must be given positive attention IMMEDIATELY!

Don't be a sore loser because I so elegantly brushed off your "must be awkward" take.

[xrodmuc316]

What's great about that "joke", is that if he had any sort of knowledge of cards, he'd know that there are whole lines dedicated to players writing things other than their signatures on them

LOL right?!? Who knew some cards come with spots for them to be signed. Thank you for showing up every now and then and providing wisdom! It's not like the meme is a card with exactly what you are referring to or anything :lol:

[#1-norm-fan]

Soooo awkward.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT THOUGH!

I’ve made sure everyone in that thread feels really bad for not playing along with you! Try posting it in a few other threads. I think it should be a hit now!

[xrodmuc316]

Soooo awkward.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT THOUGH!

I’ve made sure everyone in that thread feels really bad for not playing along with you! Try posting it in a few other threads. I think it should be a hit now!

Whining sarcastically and talking about how you wish you did not make a "no mocking" rule is not actually following said rule.

[#1-norm-fan]

Damn. You think I’m failing to follow my “no mocking stupid posts” rule, huh?

I’ll work on it.

[Verbose Minch]

LOL right?!? Who knew some cards come with spots for them to be signed. Thank you for showing up every now and then and providing wisdom! It's not like the meme is a card with exactly what you are referring to or anything :lol:

Brother, memes are funny. This ain't it

[Jordan]

I say this weekly, easily. Maybe more. But AEW has GOT to cut/not renew several/and I mean a dozen or more active wrestlers from theirs contracts.

I just saw an article about Tony Neese. This dude is nearly perfect, body at an insane level, working ability as good as it gets... Never had a major story in any company... He leaves WWE to get an angle on AEW Dark.

Jay Lethal. A dude who fills a major social need of equality in wrestling, incredible worker and promo, a future HOF performer. Yes finally AEW is working an angle with him and Starks (and I think it's excellent so far) but why did it take two months!?

Andrade when he came into AEW I swear to God was a main event talent. We were able to forget about his poor usage in WWE and he was getting thrust to the top immediately, right? Wrong. Just fucking wrong. These horrible backstage angles are not moving anyone forward or creating any interest.. why does this guy have to have such a cheese dick gimmick? Can't he just be a hot dude that is good at wrestling, has cool matches and doesn't speak English? You can get over on that in AEW.

Those are some of the major characters that I think are underused. We also have Fish, O'Riellly, Ethan Page, Thunder Rosa, Malakai, Leo Rush and Miro that are new to AEW and underused on TV.

I always think "who should AEW cut?"

Usually the list of talents I come up with aren't really dominating the screen on Dynamite. Janela, Kiss, Red Velvet, Luther and the like. AEW has to deal with some of the talent that just aren't progressing on Dynamite and replace them with the newer talent I talked about above.

I think I can do without the Best Friends, I like them all but ultimately they are taking a spot from people who I'd rather be watching. Maybe they just break up and go separate ways until and eventual reunion but I'm tired of this group on tv.

Dark Order. Yes Silver has a connection to the fans but ultimately the group is a failure and really has no way forward at this point. I wouldn't miss it if Dark Order was just never mentioned again as an active unit in AEW.

Inner Circle, time to go. Hager just has to go for good. The stable is done, time to end it. Hager is the only one that needs to be released, Jericho eh... I can do without. Hopefully WWE snags him.

Hobbs, yeah I know AEW has a deficit of black workers but Hobbs sucks and hasn't improved at all since day one. Replace Hobbs with Keith Lee and don't tell anyone.

[Malfeitor]

Where’s Shisen?

I miss Shisen.

He was funny.

[xrodmuc316]

Someone from Canada provided some perspective on the ratings in Canada for me. They said the Dynamite beats Raw and SmackDown thing is misleading. Dynamite is shown once, which is when you have to watch it. Raw and SmackDown and both apparently replayed throughout the week. They sell advertising to that as well. Obviously people watch them.

AEW Rampage apparently isn’t even shown on cable (this is despite their popularity, of course), and they don’t even have a slot in Australia, which is a pretty big market to miss out on.

Meltzer and the like are just doing rating gymnastics again, cherry picking data that supports the story they want to write.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Meltzer and the like are just doing rating gymnastics again, cherry picking data that supports the story they want to write.

They want this to succeed so bad that they are actually going to hurt it by giving it a false sense of self.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I say this weekly, easily. Maybe more. But AEW has GOT to cut/not renew several/and I mean a dozen or more active wrestlers from theirs contracts.

I just saw an article about Tony Neese. This dude is nearly perfect, body at an insane level, working ability as good as it gets... Never had a major story in any company... He leaves WWE to get an angle on AEW Dark.

Jay Lethal. A dude who fills a major social need of equality in wrestling, incredible worker and promo, a future HOF performer. Yes finally AEW is working an angle with him and Starks (and I think it's excellent so far) but why did it take two months!?

Andrade when he came into AEW I swear to God was a main event talent. We were able to forget about his poor usage in WWE and he was getting thrust to the top immediately, right? Wrong. Just fucking wrong. These horrible backstage angles are not moving anyone forward or creating any interest.. why does this guy have to have such a cheese dick gimmick? Can't he just be a hot dude that is good at wrestling, has cool matches and doesn't speak English? You can get over on that in AEW.

Those are some of the major characters that I think are underused. We also have Fish, O'Riellly, Ethan Page, Thunder Rosa, Malakai, Leo Rush and Miro that are new to AEW and underused on TV.

I always think "who should AEW cut?"

Usually the list of talents I come up with aren't really dominating the screen on Dynamite. Janela, Kiss, Red Velvet, Luther and the like. AEW has to deal with some of the talent that just aren't progressing on Dynamite and replace them with the newer talent I talked about above.

I think I can do without the Best Friends, I like them all but ultimately they are taking a spot from people who I'd rather be watching. Maybe they just break up and go separate ways until and eventual reunion but I'm tired of this group on tv.

Dark Order. Yes Silver has a connection to the fans but ultimately the group is a failure and really has no way forward at this point. I wouldn't miss it if Dark Order was just never mentioned again as an active unit in AEW.

Inner Circle, time to go. Hager just has to go for good. The stable is done, time to end it. Hager is the only one that needs to be released, Jericho eh... I can do without. Hopefully WWE snags him.

Hobbs, yeah I know AEW has a deficit of black workers but Hobbs sucks and hasn't improved at all since day one. Replace Hobbs with Keith Lee and don't tell anyone.

Best Friends should have gone yesterday. The problem is that if you have to split them up, you’re just creating a situation where you have to highlight four different acts instead of just one.

I think at the top, you can cut Matt Hardy, Paul Wight and Mark Henry. That’s probably $3 million right there. Jericho is cooked. Moxley might be leaving anyway and doesn’t do much good. Does Sting even matter anymore? That’s probably a total of $8 million right there.

Who really cares about the rest of the Inner Circle? Sammy, Santana and Ortiz might be good talents, but they don’t matter. I can see why you would keep Sammy though.

Problem is it then becomes about guys who aren’t featured by should be. FTR can be cut. Miro. Malakai Black. PAC. Andrade. None of them really matters to the identity of the company. If you’re getting rid of Black, get rid of Brody King too. Why are The Butcher & The Blade still there? Private Party? Rebel? Serena Deeb? Nyla Rose? Vickie Guerrero?

Just fire half the goddamn roster.

[Jordan]

I make a lot of jokes about Matt Hardy but I truly feel he adds a huge value for AEW in a lot of ways. The Hardy's have a real die hard fan base and he actually still has some really good matches.

I think Mox is one of the biggest stars and best characters they have so I wouldn't even dream of losing him.

Santana and Ortiz just need to get away from Jericho. They are capable of so much but just like the angle they are doing says they've been under Jericho shadow this whole time.

The AEW tag division should be an even bigger focus because of the amount of talent and also the amount of great teams they have. FTR is amazing and should always be featured.

Sting and Darby is a great part time thing. Sting is a God in AEW and really fun to have around so I wouldn't lose him.

Malakai is amazing and Brody King and him may do some great stuff together. Malakai could be a ppv main eventer imo.

We got Mustafa Ali gonna be available soon likely, a guy worth utilizing, Johnny Mundo is available... It's a wild scene right now.

[Jordan]

The Acclaimed have definitely hit level of interest from me and others that I didn't expect. They are really good. So many good teams in AEW and truthfully the tag champs are not even in the top 5 teams!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just more on Meltzer and his AEW-related meltdowns. His latest one is against Eric Bischoff. Called him a “dumb shit” that doesn’t know anything because Bischoff suggested that AEW competes with WWE.

-You buried your own guys there, Dave.

-The logic behind going head-to-head is to get a larger audience than you currently have. Not necessarily to beat the WWE.

-He goes back and forth between saying AEW doesn’t choose when it’s on and listing reasons why they chose not to go on certain nights. Which one is it?

-He clearly doesn’t understand ratings at all. Tried to use the demo of the NHL to imply that it isn’t a good investment. He goes on to talk about how if the WWE got a 0.45 and the NBA got a 0.45 then it wouldn’t mean the same to advertisers, so he at least understands that much, but he then goes back to using them as 1:1 gauges in other arguments.

-Ratted out AEW isn’t doing too well with advertisers. I mean, he “doesn’t know” but does know that it isn’t great. It isn’t horrible either. But it’s not great.

[Vastardikai]

AEW isn't doing too well with advertisers? Really? I thought they would love seeing blood every week, having guys say the word "shit" all the time, and not having a consistent vision of what the show should look like ("The Codyverse" as I've heard it dismissively referred to vs. the rest of the show.)

[xrodmuc316]

Recap of Meltzer's latest show, let me guess...

https://i.imgflip.com/61i9oh.jpg

[xrodmuc316]

Tony Khan - “I don’t care what night the shows are on,” Khan noted. “It’s really irresponsible for (Bischoff) to say that because I don’t pick what night the show is on. These are time slots that I was assigned.”

Tony Khan - "Also, look at WWE moving shows on purpose just to hurt us by airing against us, it's not fair!!!!"

This dude might have a memory problem on top of a spazzing out problem and a being creepy problem.

[GD]

Fucking Tony Khan :rofl:

[Bad News Gertner]

I love that this thread is still going

[xrodmuc316]

I love that this thread is still going

If they would shut the fuck up once in a while, but that's not going to happen :rofl:

[Vastardikai]

We may have to rename this the "Official AEW Twitter Meltdown Thread" at this rate.

Also, I need to apologize for this thread continuing. I resuscitated it because I didn't think Omega's meltdown was threadworthy on its own.

[drave]

A whole thread couldn’t get anyone to sell your joke. You’re welcome. In fact I may just head back over to that thread and scold everyone for not giving you the attention you wanted with your first attempt! New initiative: All jokes, even bad ones that may be a sign of a serious mental issue, must be given positive attention IMMEDIATELY!



Per Decree of your Kingliess from the year of our Lord, Two-Thousand-And-Twenty-One in the birth month of our Savior, it is my sworn blood oath to inform you that you must refrain from mingling with commoners and vagabonds. To continue in such manner shall cause the decline into madness that would then taint your otherwise, fair and honorable rule over the subjects of your great kingdom of TPWW. Your subjects demand sound judgment and mind of their King, with the greatest regards and utmost passion. For even the Queen has descended into madness and cannot keep her emotional rantings from reaching the ear of babes, striking fear in their hearts, ensuring their wales are heard throughout the golden fields of wheat.



It is due to this, that I must insist, you cease and desist at once! Not that I demand anything save what is laid upon my brow by my Liege.

[Fignuts]

Sting has presence in aew, and feels special. AEW has done a much better job of utilizing him than WWE did.

[Lock Jaw]

Not that that's a very hard accomplishment

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cody Rhodes has apparently not signed a new contract with AEW. Probably a boring fucking angle or something, but Sean Ross Sapp seems to think it is a legit situation.

[Evil Vito]

Dark Order. Yes Silver has a connection to the fans but ultimately the group is a failure and really has no way forward at this point. I wouldn't miss it if Dark Order was just never mentioned again as an active unit in AEW.

I get what you're saying. Which is a shame as I actually like most of the Dark Order crew:

-Really enjoy Silver and Reynolds as a plucky undercard face team

-Uno and Grayson haven't been given a chance to show what they can actually do...the Bucks worked with them a TON on the indies and went out of their way to sign them within a week of the promotion forming, how those teams didn't meet up during the Dark Order/Elite feud is beyond me

-Anna Jay shows promise and is a total smokeshow

-Colt Cabana has always been one of my faves

-Don't really care about 5 or 10, unfortunately. But they're Nightmare Factory products and I assume they'll always try to keep a few of guys like that around.

As a group though I don't really know what they bring to the table anymore. Hangman is basically a member by proxy so it sets up a bunch of goofy faces for all of his heel challengers to run through but that's about it.

And yet I am pretty confident that out of every stable in AEW, Dark Order will be the one that permanently sticks around. Members may cycle in and out but I bet they're always going to keep Dark Order alive solely because it was Brodie's group. I don't think that's reason enough to keep the group going but I think it's what TK will do. Dude probably envisions Brodie Jr. running the stable in a decade.

[Lock Jaw]

Dark Order intolerable

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cody Rhodes is a free agent, working without an AEW contract, Fightful Select has learned. He's the current AEW TNT Champion.<br><br>Full story is up for subscribers of <a href="https://t.co/jy8u4a7WDa">https://t.co/jy8u4a7WDa</a><a href="https://t.co/aNWmcytYr9">https://t.co/aNWmcytYr9</a> <a href="https://t.co/8OHNeQyPy6">pic.twitter.com/8OHNeQyPy6</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1483113787557388294?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brandi has also taken “Chief Brandi Officer” out of her bio. That’s what indicates that it might be a work to me. But fingers crossed.

[Evil Vito]

I’m now dreaming of a world in which Cody negotiates a one-night return to the Royal Rumble, preferably as Stardust, and then waltzes out on the next Dynamite to huge heat.

It’s not happening, but that would be fucking hilarious.

[xrodmuc316]

I thought all the EVPs signed 5 year deals? If they were 3 year deals then those would be expired, as they originally signed on January 2nd, 2019.

[xrodmuc316]

Also, I don't think anybody from AEW's top level would be booked well long term in WWE, but Cody would be the one with the best chance.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I heard The Bucks and Cody had re-signed, but maybe that was The Bucks and Omega? Although I thought Omega was signed for 4 years.

Whatever. Cody will probably try to dip his toes further into “acting.” He might do a few matches for the NWA/ROH somewhere if he leaves. Which he probably won’t because so much of his stuff is tied up in AEW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This just reeks of an angle designed to make Fightful look stupid, and so Cody can come out on Dynamite and talk about not being appreciated while being TNT Champion, etc. A knockoff of the CM Punk leaving ROH angle.

[Lock Jaw]

Cody winning the Royal Rumble CONFIRMED

[Lock Jaw]

The women's Rumble. Last eliminating Impact Knockouts Champion Mickie James.

[screech]

The best way for Cody to go full heel would be to show up in the Rumble. The reaction on Dynamite would be like that RAW after Reigns beat Undertaker.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, I saw a tweet poking fun at the idea that this is the best time for Cody and Triple H to go and start their own promotion together.

Cody and Jeff Jarrett I can see.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The contract situations for a lot of guys is going to be interesting over the course of the year.

Moxley is coming up to 3 years with AEW. When’s his deal up? With everything he’s gone through, who knows how he is feeling mentally about where he’s at?

If Cody did leave and start up his own thing, who would follow him? There used to be quite a few guys who were known as “Cody guys.” MJF, Shawn Spears, FTR, etc. Would they all leave at this point? Would Dustin go with his brother? How easy are AEW deals to get out of?

[Vastardikai]

Wouldn't you know? The most interesting thing in AEW that doesn't involve a Twitter Meltdown centers around Cody.

[xrodmuc316]

Wouldn't you know? The most interesting thing in AEW that doesn't involve a Twitter Meltdown centers around Cody.

Yeah but imagine how big the Meltdown from Tony would be if Cody did leave :rofl:

[GD]

Fucking Tony Khan :rofl:

[Lock Jaw]

We get it, you are Fing Tony Khan, you don't need to keep posting it.

[GD]

We get it, you are Fing Tony Khan, you don't need to keep posting it.

Won't you think of the children? :eek:

[Lock Jaw]

The children definitely don't want you to keep posting it.

[GD]

Only for you Lock Jaw

[Triple A]

Maybe it's technically true that he's a free agent because he hasn't been there in person since the start of the new year to sign an extension... and maybe they are milking it for a storyline on "Rhodes to the Top" or on AEW TV

[GD]

Maybe it's technically true that he's a free agent because he hasn't been there in person since the start of the new year to sign an extension... and maybe they are milking it for a storyline on "Rhodes to the Top" or on AEW TV

Maybe they'll include a clause (kayfabe) in his new contract where he's now eligible to challenge for the AEW World Championship

[Mr. Nerfect]

Trying to turn this into a poor man’s CM Punk angle is probably not the best idea. Doesn’t make anyone look particularly good.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Maybe they'll include a clause (kayfabe) in his new contract where he's now eligible to challenge for the AEW World Championship

Oh this is good. Or he just finally goes rogue and abuses his powers after Sammy beats him for the interim title. At the very least they’ve got people talking about an actual talent instead of time deaf tweets.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MOX IS BACK.<br>Appearing for the first time in nearly 3 months, former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> World Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> makes his long-awaited return to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> TOMORROW at 8pm ET/7pm CT LIVE on <a href="https://twitter.com/TBSNetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TBSNetwork</a>! <a href="https://t.co/TVVeo1evSM">pic.twitter.com/TVVeo1evSM</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1483529700832169984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ron the dial]

yeah i figured that was coming. seemed weird his first appearance back would be at the gcw show.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Oh he’s going to get the pop of a lifetime. Good for him. Now let him kill Cody soon.

[Jordan]

I assume we get Mox going right for Danielson as they were to face off before he took time away. Either that or he comes for Hangman directly and starts to go heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Feels hobbled together. I wonder where Mox would rather be or if he even really wants to keep doing this at all while managing his condition? When’s his deal up?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, Meltzer is really defensive about the Cody story. He’s acting like it’s a foregone conclusion he signs with AEW. I wonder if TK thought the same thing leading to this potential mess?

Would be kind of funny if Cody played being a free agent for a while and did work in ROH, New Japan, maybe Impact Wrestling and handing over the Dusty Rhodes Classic trophy in NXT, all as part of his next Rhodes to the Top story.

Money and happiness are the two biggest factors when it comes to people making these sorts of career decisions. It’s pretty easy to see how Cody might be disenchanted with his place in the company with a bunch of other guys being signed and the creative opening up the whole company to the tools Cody would use to get himself over.

Don’t get me wrong, he probably does re-sign with AEW. But then schadenfreude if he doesn’t is going to be pretty damn amazing. And imagine if Mox goes too. Or if AEW loses access to New Japan and Danielson leaves as well.

[weather vane]

Well at least you aren’t jumping to any conclusions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Speculating is not the same as jumping to a conclusion.

[weather vane]

Potato potato.

[rez]

Speculating is not the same as jumping to a conclusion.

gonna need your current bio because we all think you just troll wrestling 24/7. Are you employed? with spouse? with child? who ARE you?

[rez]

and your W2

[slik]

https://i.postimg.cc/VkyGVnYW/Screenshot-2022-01-19-8-37-20-PM.png

[Evil Vito]

Congrats to Dante Martin for fucking Skye Blue.

[Jordan]

Tony really enjoys the cuter types as to Vince's Barbies.

[Evil Vito]

https://i.postimg.cc/0jDWkynw/8hzdnu5quqc81.png

Gotta throw this in here too. God damn. So glad to see Mox looking way healthier.

[Mr. Nerfect]

https://i.postimg.cc/0jDWkynw/8hzdnu5quqc81.png

Gotta throw this in here too. God damn. So glad to see Mox looking way healthier.

This is way more important than anything else. Glad to see him seemingly doing well.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Jesus what a difference.

[slik]

Cody Rhodes/Randy Orton story from the book Rumble Road (2010) by Jon Robinson about hijinks on the road


https://i.postimg.cc/6pVPYB1M/Screenshot-2022-01-20-9-41-32-PM.png

https://i.postimg.cc/L8F7tJvq/Screenshot-2022-01-20-9-40-56-PM.png

[Sepholio]

LOL Cody boner

[Sepholio]

He ended racism. But still, much to his dismay, Cody was cursed with a smol shvantz.

[Wehttam]

you guessed it, frankie kazarian

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What’s today’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SneakyFreaky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SneakyFreaky</a> surprise?! <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBrittBaker?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealBrittBaker</a> is A DENTIST by day and - wait for it - PRO WRESTLER by night! This @allelitewrestling champ gives me the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LockJaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LockJaw</a>! WATCH THE FULL STORY at <a href="https://t.co/DMN2j5eQL4">https://t.co/DMN2j5eQL4</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NickCannon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NickCannon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NickCannonShow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NickCannonShow</a> <a href="https://t.co/I8Fc0geBKi">pic.twitter.com/I8Fc0geBKi</a></p>&mdash; Nick Cannon (@NickCannonShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickCannonShow/status/1484575149458399235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

Why anyone goes on the Nick Cannon show is beyond me. One of the biggest pieces of shit in entertainment. Hope Britt shoots on him and makes him tap out and cry like the little ignorant baby he is.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What’s today’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SneakyFreaky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SneakyFreaky</a> surprise?! <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBrittBaker?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealBrittBaker</a> is A DENTIST by day and - wait for it - PRO WRESTLER by night! This @allelitewrestling champ gives me the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LockJaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LockJaw</a>! WATCH THE FULL STORY at <a href="https://t.co/DMN2j5eQL4">https://t.co/DMN2j5eQL4</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NickCannon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NickCannon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NickCannonShow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NickCannonShow</a> <a href="https://t.co/I8Fc0geBKi">pic.twitter.com/I8Fc0geBKi</a></p>&mdash; Nick Cannon (@NickCannonShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickCannonShow/status/1484575149458399235?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Adam Cole vs Nick Cannon when?

[Sepholio]

Adam Cole vs Nick Cannon when?

Nah. Cody is gonna cleanly pin Cannon as another step on his quest to end racism.

[Sting Fan]

It really feels like the womens division is heading upwards in AEW. I'm not really a womens wrestling fan outside of Trish Stratus during her time on top of the WWE divsion and Becky Lynchs rise but the AEW ladies feel like they have hit another level recently.

I enjoyed the TayJay vs. Bunny and Penelope feud the the blow off was money. Jade Cargil is improving all the time and feels like she will be a legit big deal soon the way shes growing.

Statlander and Hirsch is a bit paint by numbers but I dig it tbh. Baker and Hayter is going to be good but it feels like Bakers time is over as champ soon. I dont know anything about Mercedes Martinez but Thunder Rosa is the goods.

I cant get into Ruby Soho still, just something about her I don't buy. Riho needs to be in quick matches because as soon as shes getting beat up I find myself pulled out of the match a bit by how tiny she is but her offense is good when shes on the move fast.

I can take or leave Deeb, not entirely sure why and so long as Nyla rose is just wrecking people shes good value as well.

As I watched the Rampage main event tonight I was kind of going through it in my head and found myself a bit surprised by the depth and entertainment value of the womens roster.

[Fignuts]

Serena Deeb is quite possibly the best female talent in the world today.

[Jordan]

I agree with you Sting Fan. AEW women's division is going the right way for sure. I think there are some talents that they could replace with certain ROH/NXT/WWE releases though. Hirsch, Velvet, Nyla, Sakura and Shida can all be replaced.

Shida is good yes but I think she could be replaced by someone like Ember Moon. Shida has some good matches but really lacks in the character and promo department. I can go without her, cancel her passport and keep her trapped in Japan. Pack up her apartment and send it on a boat.

[Jordan]

I really like when AEW used NWA's Kamille though, she could have been great in AEW.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don’t care much for women’s wrestling but Thunder Rosa is outstanding and should be on top in every company she competes in.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’m 99% certain Thunder Rosa is their next women’s world champion

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lio Rush announcing on Twitter about an hour ago that his AEW deal runs out on Valentine’s Day and he’ll be a free agent. That didn’t last long at all.