All Elite Wrestling

[Triple A]

I don't think the Observer said that. This is all that was said from the most recent issue:

A number of WWE talents who were fired in early November are now free to start working elsewhere. Keith Lee is on that list and we’re told that he’s been talked about for here, if not has already agreed to a deal here.

[Sepholio]

Really hope theres more than one guy and they aren't hyping up Lee. Don't get me wrong, I like Lee a lot actually, but man he is not worth the hype of this announcement.

[Jordan]

If it was Keith Lee and he was getting a AEW Championship match at Revolution, wouldn't it be best for Lance Archer to beat Hangman for the title?

[Sepholio]

I don't think the Observer said that. This is all that was said from the most recent issue:

Yeah I don't pay for the Observer so I didn't actually go check after I saw the report sourcing them. Seems really dumb to source directly claim them as a source if they didn't say it.

[Sepholio]

LOL I just dug around and found the source for it. Looks like they got rolled by a knock off twitter account. Really need to look for those blue check marks.

[Verbose Minch]

It needs to be anybody but Keith Lee. Advertising it as this huge signing, but it just ends up being a morbidly obese guy who looks like he's sixty and talks like the incarnation of a fedora, would be brutal

AEW has been trending in the wrong direction for a bit with signing all the NXT guys. Adam Cole and O Reilly genuinely suck (I like Bobby Fish though). Danhausen sucks. You've got this roster of amazing talent, and you're diluting it with garbage.

You have to assume Miro is injured, or taking time off. It's inexcusable for him to be gone this long. Especially given he never should've lost the title to Guevara (who also sucks)

Used to watch Dynamite weekly, now I just catch the reposted YouTube highlights, and watch Dark/Elevation for background noise. Hopefully they turn it around, because I used to look forward to Wednesday nights.

[Verbose Minch]

Oh also fuck Dante Martin

[Sepholio]

I see Keith and Mia just got married like 3 days ago. I'd think they'd be on their honeymoon or something.

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe THE FORBIDDEN DOOR refers to leaving your new wife in the hotel room on your honeymoon

[Sepholio]

Well she's apparently posting pictures of their honeymoon online except people have quickly realized they seem to be pictures from a trip they took in 2020. Guess she is gonna have fun with the speculation too lol

[GD]

A man can dream


gK1Dro5pr_0

[Sepholio]

Imagine if it's Cryback

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Can’t stop laughing at all the haters, losers, and racists saying it shouldn’t be Keith Lee. Imagine the ignorance to think a generational talent showing up would be a disappointment. Work on yourselves and try to figure out where your life went wrong.

[GD]

Can’t stop laughing at all the haters, losers, and racists saying it shouldn’t be Keith Lee. Imagine the ignorance to think a generational talent showing up would be a disappointment. Work on yourselves and try to figure out where your life went wrong.

Damb

[Vastardikai]

I think it's interesting that AEW would just hot shot him into the AEW title picture, but not Miro, Danielson, Christian, Lethal, or Punk.

[Sepholio]

Can’t stop laughing at all the haters, losers, and racists saying it shouldn’t be Keith Lee. Imagine the ignorance to think a generational talent showing up would be a disappointment. Work on yourselves and try to figure out where your life went wrong.

Generational talent? Cuz he's a rotund man who can still go? Pfffft, that's Kevin Owens schtick.

And ftr I'M NOT RACIST OK! KO isn't better because he's white; he's better because he's Canadian.

[Evil Vito]

Keith Lee rules so personally I’m happy if it’s him even if I think Tony doesn’t need to hype every announcement as the biggest thing since Jesus.

[Triple A]

The "forbidden door" shit still doesn't make any sense to me if it's Keith Lee... how would he "slam the door in the face of his prior company" if he was released by WWE...

Kinda why I'm leaning towards an NJPW guy like Juice Robinson or whatever... which would be not good if that's who this hype is about...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Forbidden Door can be opened for anyone from any wrestling promotion in the world, whether or not it’s a company <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> is on good terms with, even if it’s someone from a company that’s open for business. They’re also welcome to slam the door in the face of their prior company.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1489819394205270018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Oh yeah?! You can't fire me, I quit! *slams door*

[Lock Jaw]

A man can dream


gK1Dro5pr_0

https://hassanator.ytmnd.com/

[Triple A]

Feel like AEW would probably try to sign Toni Storm so would make sense for them to maybe try to sign her bf Juice Robinson also I guess... would be so annoying if it is him after the hype though... Tony Khan's hype made me dislike boring ass Christian even more...

[Jordan]

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[Evil Vito]

Vince is crashing through the Forbidden Door after Nick Khan convinced him to future endeavor himself.

[Stu Hart]

Bae white

[Mr. Nerfect]

The "forbidden door" shit still doesn't make any sense to me if it's Keith Lee... how would he "slam the door in the face of his prior company" if he was released by WWE...

Kinda why I'm leaning towards an NJPW guy like Juice Robinson or whatever... which would be not good if that's who this hype is about...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Forbidden Door can be opened for anyone from any wrestling promotion in the world, whether or not it’s a company <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> is on good terms with, even if it’s someone from a company that’s open for business. They’re also welcome to slam the door in the face of their prior company.</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1489819394205270018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It wouldn’t be a smart move to “slam the door” in anyone else’s face either. If you want a relationship with New Japan, why talk like that? And why poke WWE with a stick? It’s just all so immature outside being overhyped.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think Keith Lee would be a great pickup and WWE releasing him making her isn’t good a dumb take. This is the company that’s paid Eva Marie twice, pushed the Bella twins to the moon, employs Aaliyah who reads her promos off of cue cards and gives TV time to Omos while only firing Nia Jax because she refused to get vaccinated. Let’s not pretend this is company where talent and ability get you anywhere.

Lee can work, he’s got a different look compared to most of the AEW roster, he’sa big name in the eyes of that fan base, and he’ll generate some buzz for them.

My only concern is what they do with him. I’ve been mostly happy with Punk so far, Danielson has been handled perfectly IMO and Cole is being wasted on mid care acts. So who knows what they’ll do with Lee vengarse they’re going to want to protect him but I don’t want him in feuds with lesser guys.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Can’t stop laughing at all the haters, losers, and racists saying it shouldn’t be Keith Lee. Imagine the ignorance to think a generational talent showing up would be a disappointment. Work on yourselves and try to figure out where your life went wrong.

I assume this is tongue in cheek, but I just want to reiterate that Keith Lee is not that good. I don’t think he’s a bad signing, but they’ve signed so many people it makes choosing him trivial. And it’s a poor use of “Forbidden Door,” he didn’t slam the door on WWE and it’s way overhyped. Tony Khan just needs to shut the fuck up and let his mid-card signings be mid-card signings.

[Triple A]

Maybe it's an ROH guy? Re: "slam the door on their previous company" comment... but nobody from there would be big enough for this amount of hype

[Triple A]

Bandido? He's def a "top wrestler" and presumably a free agent so the "slam the door" comment would fit, and AEW wanted to sign him when they first started but he signed with ROH instead

Yeah Bandido is my guess now... would be a cool addition to AEW

[XL]

Khan has fucked this one. Nobody can live up to the hype now. The faithful will try to excuse it, the haters will go OTT with burying whoever it is.

[Triple A]

I hope it's Bandido... he's not as well known so would be a let down to a lot of people but would be a sweet addition to the roster...

Then they can bring in Keith Lee later

[XL]

I think there’s a portion of the audience that would feel so “burned” if it was Bandido that they wouldn’t be around to see Keith Lee debut.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve gone back to thinking it’ll be Keith Lee and Bray Wyatt. Keith Lee in the Ladder Match spot and Bray to close the show or something.

[Jordan]

That would be cool but Tony did pretty much clarify that the announcement is one guy. I think it's Keith Lee because of the Mia Kim photo upload that tried to trick the fans to think they are on their honeymoon. She posted a pic from 2020.

[Jordan]

Also, I understand being wary of a big announcement from AEW, not a good track record. But I didn't take this hype to be on the level of when Tony hyped the mysterious hall of famer that turned out to be Christian and not Kurt Angle or CM Punk.

And yeah Lee sucked on Raw but Raw sucks so who's fault is that really? I am not aware of his promo skills but am open to seeing him cut it in AEW without writers. Lee is a dude that should have been there from day 1.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That would be cool but Tony did pretty much clarify that the announcement is one guy. I think it's Keith Lee because of the Mia Kim photo upload that tried to trick the fans to think they are on their honeymoon. She posted a pic from 2020.

I know he’s advertising it as one guy, but you’ve really got to get someone extra since no one can live up to the hype on their own.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, I understand being wary of a big announcement from AEW, not a good track record. But I didn't take this hype to be on the level of when Tony hyped the mysterious hall of famer that turned out to be Christian and not Kurt Angle or CM Punk.

And yeah Lee sucked on Raw but Raw sucks so who's fault is that really? I am not aware of his promo skills but am open to seeing him cut it in AEW without writers. Lee is a dude that should have been there from day 1.

Raw sucks, but Keith Lee also isn’t very good. No one wants to blame the talent, but sometimes they just don’t deliver. Vince gave him chances — he even got to go to special classes with Adam Pearce and Drew Gulak (allegedly). But he couldn’t piece it all together.

[Jordan]

Raw sucks, but Keith Lee also isn’t very good. No one wants to blame the talent, but sometimes they just don’t deliver. Vince gave him chances — he even got to go to special classes with Adam Pearce and Drew Gulak (allegedly). But he couldn’t piece it all together.

Eh.... Keith has made it "this far" before WWE. WWE is nearly impossible to thrive in, I can't call him a failure because it didn't work out there. His style is way too Super Japan for WWE, we'll see if it works out but I think he's the best chance at a black star right now and AEW is in need of diversity.

[Sepholio]

I think people forget Keith Lee is pushing 40. Couple that with his size and heart/health issues...and, well, there really isn't time for him to be a star. He probably has 2-3 years left at most.

[xrodmuc316]

A new contender(s) for the debut?

https://streamable.com/ja5bz9
From here, not just a rando link lol
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2022/02/two-former-wwe-superstars-teasing-aew-debut-on-dynamite/

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[drave]

questionable click of the day!

[xrodmuc316]

questionable click of the day!

LOL my bad, I added the source where the embedded link is from!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The amount of brain rot and/or racism it takes to convince yourself Keith Lee isn’t a mega star is staggering. You claim to like wrestling but you’re going to voluntarily miss out on one of the greatest to ever do it. Embarrassing.

[Bad News Gertner]

Keith Lee is Brodus Clay with more high spots

[drave]

LOL my bad, I added the source where the embedded link is from!




Oh dude, you're totally fine. I consider most things "questionable" from TPWW :D

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Keith Lee is Brodus Clay with more high spots

Exactly.

[Jordan]

Matt Hardy on his brudder “I don’t think he’s the guy coming in this Wednesday in AEW against Isiah Kassidy. Although, who knows? Tony Khan, Papa Khan has a lot of money. Maybe he bought him out of his contract and he is coming in early. Who knows? The final of the 90 days was supposed to be on March 9. March 10 he’s a free agent.”

[Frank Drebin]

I don't want it to be Keith Lee unless the crowd has a cue during his entrance to yell "KEITH LEE" like his NXT muzak.

[Frank Drebin]

Who is he?
Who's that champ I see?
Rhetorical question but they all know the answer:
KEITH LEE
KEITH LEE

That was fire.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eh.... Keith has made it "this far" before WWE. WWE is nearly impossible to thrive in, I can't call him a failure because it didn't work out there. His style is way too Super Japan for WWE, we'll see if it works out but I think he's the best chance at a black star right now and AEW is in need of diversity.

He’s one of the few ready-made to go at a certain level. And that will be the TNT Title level. But they’re better off signing Mia Yim and Athena and pushing Will Hobbs as well as putting some of their active black talent in a proper training program. They’re not as good at progressing people as some make out.

Fuck, bring back 2 Cold Scorpio and it will probably be better.

Keith Lee is too centered on spots and doesn’t have the charisma or psychology to carry a sustained main event run.

Here’s a question: Do you see a Keith Lee/Mia Yim run in AEW being any more dynamic than a Miro/CJ Perry one?

[xrodmuc316]

Matt Hardy on his brudder

At this point I can't even say who the biggest AEW shill is. Matt Hardy and Chris Jericho are neck to neck on who gets that crown.

Maybe they should redo the old Stone Cold/Kurt Angle/Mr McMahon story of fighting over who gets hug the boss, only updated to who gets to suck Tony Khan's dick longer, Jericho or Hardy.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’ve seen some of Keith Lee’s promos from nxt. He comes off as very articulate and isn’t a traditional good promo but idk where this idea that he can’t promo comes from. He’s comfortable and sounds natural. And he’s unique how his talks. What’s the problem there?

[XL]

Racism. We have preconceived notions of what a “black dude” should sound like. Lee goes out of his way to not fulfil that stereotype. We can’t cope with it.

[drave]

fits in line

[xrodmuc316]

Racism is how Tony Khan books some of "certain" wrestlers, and how he buried Big Swole. Racism is how Tony Khan just swaps black wrestlers in and out like nobody would notice, Remember when he replaced Lio Rush with Jay Lethal, because they are all the same to Tony.

[slik]

Cannot wait for Gail Kim to debut tonight and advance in the tourney to face Sammy G

[slik]

Hoping for Keith Lee though and maybe Swerve Scott (sorry Gail!!)

[ron the dial]

swerve :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Racism. We have preconceived notions of what a “black dude” should sound like. Lee goes out of his way to not fulfil that stereotype. We can’t cope with it.

Love you, but this is a load of shit. I hope it was a joke.

Keith Lee describing himself as an “intellectual” on his Twitter page is like a woman having a gimmick where she’s rubbing a college degree in people’s faces like it’s some surreal achievement. Yeah, black men can be intelligent. No shit. It doesn’t mean you have to act like a total toss putting weird inflections on things to “subvert” the idea that you’re supposed to be in a business where you fight for your money.

There are plenty of black wrestlers who can talk articulately and still cut good promos in a wrestling context because they get where they are and what their goal actually is.

If the dude was really smart, he’d put that intelligence into not sucking as a wrestler to the point he got fired despite allegedly being such a progressive fucking hire. Glad we’ve FINALLY got a smart black man in wrestling. Fuck all that noise.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wow, that’s racist.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe we should make two Dynamite threads tonight. One for racists and one for non racists.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I’ll be in the non racist one, thanks.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Gonna be pretty funny when it ends up being white ass Will Ospreay showing up.

[slik]

I feel like we're getting more than one surprise tonight tbh

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Could definitely see them doing the double debut again. The Brodie/Hardy and Cole/Danielson double debuts were a lot of fun.

[Sepholio]

Can't wait for Rockstar Spud to debut tonight!

[Sepholio]

Gonna be pretty funny when it ends up being white ass Will Ospreay showing up.

I wish it was tbh. Him or Bray would both get me hyped.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol if it turns out to be Swerve and it’s a disappointment on purpose.

I also think they’re going to do more than one person now. They kind of forced themselves into that position.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I was see Ospreay after Omega makes it back.

Jeff Hardy and Keith Lee would be fun I think.

[Sepholio]

What would you do if it was JOHN CENA!!!?

[#1-norm-fan]

Keith Lee is Brodus Clay with more high spots

I feel like you meant this as an insult but it is not…

[Jordan]

Goddamn Noid was right!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I didn’t secure <a href="https://twitter.com/JayWhiteNZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JayWhiteNZ</a> until Sunday. I realized after the fact that Friday night I butchered my own definition of Forbidden Door in hyping tonight. I heard the fans’ feedback, &amp; wanted to ensure that tonight was a special <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> for all. Thank you everyone who watched!</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1491616155554963462?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m right about most things.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just can’t believe Keith Lee is supposed to “change everything.” Holy shit.

[XL]

I’m right about most things.

Apart from the debuts of Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Rowan, Marina Shafir, and Mia Yim. :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Apart from the debuts of Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Rowan, Marina Shafir, and Mia Yim. :shifty:

I was wrong about it being Jay White and not Bray Wyatt.

[Sting Fan]

Double debut. Awesome on both counts.

Hyped for Keith Lee… imagine how he’s gonna rag doll Sammy and Darby.

[Sepholio]

Just wanna say that bit where Matt Hardy walked out through the crowd and they said his behavior was erratic or whatever? That was pathetic. That's the kind of stuff that makes AEW annoying to me.

[Jordan]

Somewhere in Florida Paul Wight has pulled Keith Lee into a private area to discuss "the proper way for a big man to move" in a match.

[Jordan]

Thinking about Jay White right now. Matt Jackson made sure to remind Adam Cole and us that White is/was arch rivals with Kenny, furthering the gap between Cole and Omega that had already been established. Clearly Cole/Kenny is the ultimate goal. More on that in a moment.

So the appearance of Jay White is interesting because it unbalanced the odds. Before Jay, we were pretty clear to see a 6-Man program between the Elite. Omega & The Bucks vs O'Reilly, Fish & Cole. This whole story may even be getting the label of The Elite vs The Bullet Club. There is another name out there beyond the door that can be of interest here.

I am seeing a Revolution PPV where we see Kenny return to action against Jay White and Adam Cole challenging Hangman Page for the AEW Championship. If Cole, White, Fish & O'Reilly were a "Bullet Club" alliance there is one more spot on The Elite to even the odds. I wouldn't go with Cutler, how about Tama Tonga? He's been the leader of The Bullet Club for a while, you could have Kenny bring him aboard and what a difference that would make for them huh? His ultra intense promo style and his ring work is 100% different than the rest of The Elite.

That way we could keep the faction war going until the next PPV and do a Stadium Stampede with The Elite (Omega, Tonga & The Bucks) vs The Bullet Club (Cole, O'Reilly, Fish & White).

Back to the ultimate goal of Kenny vs Cole. I think this could easily be an AEW Championship match with Cole taking the belt from Hangman but that isn't a lock obviously. I could even see a play where Cole gets attacked by a debuting Tama Tonga during his match with Hangman to lose his chance at gold, thus fueling this proposed Stadium Stampede I've come up with.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That sounds like a pretty good undercard to whatever Keith Lee is doing in the main event.

[Maluco]

Glad Tony hyped this so much…

Flair to WWE
Hall/Nash to WCW
And now, bah gawd, White/Lee to AEW.

The business has been shaken and I, for one, and glad that Tony made sure I didn’t miss a thing!

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The fact checking standard for <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballTalk</a> reporting is far lower than that of <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a>’s roving reporter <a href="https://twitter.com/tonyschiavone24?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tonyschiavone24</a>. I’m definitely not running for Congress; this filing is faker than Eddie Gilbert’s apology to Tommy Rich in 1984. PFT sources as trustworthy as <a href="https://twitter.com/The_MJF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@The_MJF</a>. <a href="https://t.co/HPdU53GrfY">https://t.co/HPdU53GrfY</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1491808035366391819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

“When we started a lot of people had contracts that were a couple of years long and a lot of them are coming up. I have really tried hard to be very considerate of the people on the roster, especially going through the pandemic. That encompassed a long period of time where we were still in our first year of television and going into our second. I kept a lot of people under contract even though I wasn’t necessarily using them on television because I wanted them to still have paying work, which was hard to come by for wrestling during the pandemic where there weren’t any independent shows. Really only two places were running and the other place was cutting people left and right. I did want to give some job security to people. Now with so many wrestlers coming in, I can’t renew all the contracts. I’ve had to make some tough choices based on ability, fan response, or both. I try to maintain the best roster I can for the company and fans.” Tony Khan

[GD]

What a creepy bastard

[Lock Jaw]

CLB

[Triple A]

Hope Keith Lee can "drop a few lbs" so it would be easier for him to be more agile... Seems like he's gotten way bigger

Pic from like 4 years ago

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fz1K54mQ_08/maxresdefault.jpg

[Wehttam]

his weight is limitless

bask in his buffet

[Lock Jaw]

Never understood how someone who told people to "bask in his glory" was a face.....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Thinking about Jay White right now. Matt Jackson made sure to remind Adam Cole and us that White is/was arch rivals with Kenny, furthering the gap between Cole and Omega that had already been established. Clearly Cole/Kenny is the ultimate goal. More on that in a moment.

So the appearance of Jay White is interesting because it unbalanced the odds. Before Jay, we were pretty clear to see a 6-Man program between the Elite. Omega & The Bucks vs O'Reilly, Fish & Cole. This whole story may even be getting the label of The Elite vs The Bullet Club. There is another name out there beyond the door that can be of interest here.

I am seeing a Revolution PPV where we see Kenny return to action against Jay White and Adam Cole challenging Hangman Page for the AEW Championship. If Cole, White, Fish & O'Reilly were a "Bullet Club" alliance there is one more spot on The Elite to even the odds. I wouldn't go with Cutler, how about Tama Tonga? He's been the leader of The Bullet Club for a while, you could have Kenny bring him aboard and what a difference that would make for them huh? His ultra intense promo style and his ring work is 100% different than the rest of The Elite.

That way we could keep the faction war going until the next PPV and do a Stadium Stampede with The Elite (Omega, Tonga & The Bucks) vs The Bullet Club (Cole, O'Reilly, Fish & White).

Back to the ultimate goal of Kenny vs Cole. I think this could easily be an AEW Championship match with Cole taking the belt from Hangman but that isn't a lock obviously. I could even see a play where Cole gets attacked by a debuting Tama Tonga during his match with Hangman to lose his chance at gold, thus fueling this proposed Stadium Stampede I've come up with.

None of it is your fault, but that sounds terribly boring. Jay White may have just been be one-time deal. Omega/Cole has no remaining appeal. Cole lost to Orange Cassidy and looks like a drowned rat that’s been put under the hairdryer. Do people even miss Omega? No one wants Tama Tonga to come in.

Glad Tony hyped this so much…

Flair to WWE
Hall/Nash to WCW
And now, bah gawd, White/Lee to AEW.

The business has been shaken and I, for one, and glad that Tony made sure I didn’t miss a thing!

Everything is forever different.

Tony Khan

In other words: I’ve made a huge mistake and people are now going to get their asses cut.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Something to point out: firing Joey Janela and Brian Cage doesn’t do anything to help the bloat. They’re not even featured on television anymore. Cutting them is inconsequential. The bloat comes from acts like Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, Adam Cole, Orange Cassidy, Red Velvet and things that are actually on your TV turning away viewers. You can hire as many people as you want for Dark/Elevation.

[GD]

Something to point out: firing Joey Janela and Brian Cage doesn’t do anything to help the bloat. They’re not even featured on television anymore. Cutting them is inconsequential. The bloat comes from acts like Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, Adam Cole, Orange Cassidy, Red Velvet and things that are actually on your TV turning away viewers. You can hire as many people as you want for Dark/Elevation.

I wasn't aware that these acts were turning away viewers. So weird.

[XL]

I’m right about most things.

[Frank Drebin]

They should cut Adam Page, Moxley, Omega, Punk and Miro. No one wants to watch them. It is known.

[drave]

They are stars. You turn on the show and you see them. People are tuning in to see them.

[GD]

What they need is an unofficial technical wrestling division with Matthew Riddle, Timmy Thatcher, Chadwick Gable and the WALTER. That's what the people want to see, ya dig?

Australia #1 > USA

[xrodmuc316]

Tony Khan

So he is patting himself on the back for not firing people before, while also bragging about signing better people, so that now he can let go of the people he kept before???


Wow

[Frank Drebin]

They are stars. You turn on the show and you see them. People are tuning in to see them.

You missed the joke I think.....

[Mr. Nerfect]

So he is patting himself on the back for not firing people before, while also bragging about signing better people, so that now he can let go of the people he kept before???


Wow

He’s also pretty quick to point out he was paying them to suck if they have anything negative to say about the culture there. Shut up, collect your paycheck and stay in anonymity. Much nicer than what the WWE does, right?

[Jordan]

To all the fucking haters out there...

The Boss -

“The Adam Cole that’s here has main evented numerous Dynamites and Rampages, has been one of our biggest drawing wrestlers. The Adam Cole versus Orange Cassidy program is one of the biggest drawing programs we’ve ever had in the history of AEW. They have done big numbers on every show they’ve been on. And it’s been a big part of our rating success in recent months, has been the matches they did with each other.


Before Orange Cassidy and the Best Friends, Adam Cole wrestled a number of matches also against Jungle Boy. He beat Jungle Boy. Of course, Orange Cassidy and Jungle Boy, both number one contenders. He beat both of them and he’s beaten everybody else he’s wrestled in a sanctioned match. Including a lot of main events. So wherever he’s been before this, he’s never been presented to as wide of an audience as consistently as a main event wrestler.


The lights-out match being an exception to that, but that was not a sanctioned match, did not go on his record. You mentioned Britt Baker. Britt Baker had a similar arc where Britt Baker had really come into her own as a wrestler. She had won a match against Thunder Rosa under kind of dubious circumstances. But that’s a win on her record,” he added. “So she had beaten Thunder Rosa, ironically at Beach Break in 2021, and then later at the St. Patrick Day Slam, Thunder Rosa won the lights-out match. But it wasn’t long after that where Britt Baker ended up with the best record and went on to Double Or Nothing and won the world championship.

Of course, this is coming off just weeks after losing this lights-out match. And it hasn’t slowed down Britt at all. Frankly, Adam Cole, all the great matches and all the great wins he’s had. I don’t think that’s going to slow him down at all. We saw on Rampage, he looked better than ever. I thought his promo was very strong and I expect more of that from him, convincing performances, strong promos. So he is a very highly regarded person who has been incredibly valuable since he arrived in AEW.”

[XL]

They need to do a better job of getting this stuff across on the show/s. That’s a lot of “telling” not “showing”.

[xrodmuc316]

They need to do a better job of getting this stuff across on the show/s. That’s a lot of “telling” not “showing”.

Naw, the only storyline they do on the actual show is "Fed Bad".

https://i.imgflip.com/64uval.jpg

[ron the dial]

kinda like the only posts you need to make are "phil said fed bad :rofl:" :rofl:

[xrodmuc316]

kinda like the only posts you need to make are "phil said fed bad :rofl:" :rofl:

Maybe, but also what happened to the rest of his teeth :rofl:

[ron the dial]

tooth bad

[XL]

I think we need to refrain from saying Fed. They haven’t been a federation for 20 years now.

[Sepholio]

Ex-Fed bad.

[xrodmuc316]

I think we need to refrain from saying Fed. They haven’t been a federation for 20 years now.

Entertainment Resentment?
Entertainment Complacent?
Entertainment Disengagement?

Quick, somebody tweet Phil!

[GD]

Entertainment Resentment?
Entertainment Complacent?
Entertainment Disengagement?

Quick, somebody tweet Phil!

:rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

To all the fucking haters out there...

The Boss -

Lots of things wrong with this. Seeing a loss is more important than whether or not it is technically on someone’s bullshit record or not. People saw a skinny white guy lose to another skinny white guy. There’s also a big difference between pushing your female star with the most commercial potential by having her do an unusual style of match in a losing effort to someone with credibility. That helped get Britt over in what is, let’s be honest, a mid-card role.

And can we please stop using the word “draw” when it comes to these car wrecks? 1 million people is not drawing. How can there be “no one cares about WWE” memes when it is watched by several times the number of people that watch AEW? It’s like when Mick Foley defended the sex offender by saying his shtick puts a smile on every face. Yes, on the 50 faces an advertiser wants to avoid being associated with their product. People are not tuning in to see these acts. They are laughing at them and then switching off to the product and likely wrestling forever. Causally linking attention to approval is such a Vince Russo trait. These acts are not growing the promotion. They are getting comparative attention compared to a flat product no one watches because they cannot sincerely emotionally invest.

This is why Danhausen’s merchandise selling (allegedly) very well by AEW standards is an indictment. It’d be like Kaientai’s “Indeed” shirt doing well compared to The Rock’s and people saying “Wow! Kaientai is over!” No. What the fuck have you done to The Rock?

There’s a reason they don’t give you the actual numbers for these shirts. And there’s a reason people check out of this product.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She’s a shooting star, and now <a href="https://twitter.com/_AQA10?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_AQA10</a> is All Elite! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <a href="https://t.co/LZ7ocHROhC">pic.twitter.com/LZ7ocHROhC</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1492219979734798337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

No clue who that is, and since she’s a woman signing with AEW, I can only assume she is the shits.

[Triple A]

She debuted on Wednesday and seemed bad... match was a mess

[ron the dial]

yeah i don't understand why they used/signed her when they already have someone way better like say kiera hogan already on the roster.

[ron the dial]

i mean they coulda used diamante ffs

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tony Khan is looking for those diversity hires.

It would help if AEW actually had ties to a proper school.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who knew the forbidden door led to the GLAAD red carpet…we look ���� <a href="https://t.co/TEPWUSEab2">pic.twitter.com/TEPWUSEab2</a></p>&mdash; Anthony Bowens (@Bowens_Official) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bowens_Official/status/1492215598721298432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

Kayfabe is alive!!

[xrodmuc316]

Man WWE is savage!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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[Sepholio]

Its petty when they do this shit too but will agree that that's pretty damn savage.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who knew the forbidden door led to the GLAAD red carpet…we look ���� <a href="https://t.co/TEPWUSEab2">pic.twitter.com/TEPWUSEab2</a></p>&mdash; Anthony Bowens (@Bowens_Official) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bowens_Official/status/1492215598721298432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yo this dude wore pleated khakis to an award show

[Fignuts]

Adam Cole losing to Orange Cassidy, clean on tv is not good. No amount of mental gymnastics can excuse that.

These are the kind of decisions that are holding AEW back. And the fact that Tony khan is so committed to it that he's willing to write an essay defending it, doesn't give much hope that he's open to change.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Adam Cole losing to Orange Cassidy, clean on tv is not good. No amount of mental gymnastics can excuse that.

These are the kind of decisions that are holding AEW back. And the fact that Tony khan is so committed to it that he's willing to write an essay defending it, doesn't give much hope that he's open to change.

:y:

AEW and its most hardcore fans start from the position that AEW = good. Everything is then forced to fit that paradigm.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Sonia Deville so damn hot

[xrodmuc316]

Why are they putting Jay White's debut match on Rampage next week? That seems real shortsighted to debut him on a taped edition of their B Show. Also, if they want him to be a big deal, couldnt they have done better than Trent Beretta?

[Jordan]

Why are they putting Jay White's debut match on Rampage next week? That seems real shortsighted to debut him on a taped edition of their B Show. Also, if they want him to be a big deal, couldnt they have done better than Trent Beretta?

When you sign with AEW you get to have you're first match with a buddy.

[Frank Drebin]

Adam Cole losing to Orange Cassidy, clean on tv is not good. No amount of mental gymnastics can excuse that.

These are the kind of decisions that are holding AEW back. And the fact that Tony khan is so committed to it that he's willing to write an essay defending it, doesn't give much hope that he's open to change.

Yeah. OC should not be a main player. I liked him best when he was more on the fringes like that one match where there was a brawl backstage and someone gets tossed through a bathroom door and OC is just standing there.

I get that those are the things that get him popular enough to be featured but he's basically a comedy act like Santino. He can have a moment or two but he should not be involved in title matches and main events with main event guys on a regular basis. He should top out at things like his match against PAC at Evolution a couple of years ago.

[Vastardikai]

He shouldn't be beating top guys. End of story.

One of the biggest things that pissed me off was comparing it to Britt Baker's loss in a similar match. The difference being that one of them lost to an opponent who's greatest career accomplishment prior to AEW was winning titles while dressing up as an ant in a comedy promotion. Britt's opponent's biggest accomplishment prior to AEW was being the NWA Women's Champion. Only way it would be comparable is if Orange Cassidy falls off the face of the earth for months at a time, and that isn't happening.

[Sepholio]

They would have to strip OC of the things that make him OC if they really want him to be a serious main eventer. You get rid of the lazy gimmick and he's just meh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Orange Cassidy is the worst and there’s no place for him at all. He defeats the purpose of even trying to do this shit.

[Lock Jaw]

Comedy acts have their place in rassling. OC has definitely gone above that place when he shouldn't have.

[Triple A]

https://i.imgur.com/SIjTsbZh.png

[xrodmuc316]

https://i.imgur.com/SIjTsbZh.png

Pretending Tony Khan DOESNT pay clickfarmers in Bangladesh to inflate his youtube numbers :rofl::rofl:

[GD]

:rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pretending Tony Khan DOESNT pay clickfarmers in Bangladesh to inflate his youtube numbers :rofl::rofl:

AEW must be selling 30 million t-shirts, doing massive international PPV buys and have skyrocketing ratings, right?

Attention is not approval.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And yes, Tony Khan and probably does pay for that attention.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I agree they Cassidy shouldn’t be beating Cole under any circumstances and that he was way better when he was a side show act. It’s fine if he gets plugged in as the plucky underdog every now and then but he shouldn’t be beating guys they view as main event level talent.

[Destor]

https://i.imgur.com/SIjTsbZh.pngbeing over doesnt mean youre not a comedy act.

[Sting Fan]

OC for champ… he should dethrone Hangman after a 1 year hangman run then Go on to be champ for 18 months.

[slik]

17 year old Nick Wayne offered an AEW contract


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darby just presented Nick with an AEW contract <a href="https://t.co/AAwA9VyrLU">pic.twitter.com/AAwA9VyrLU</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1492754624964530179?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

17 year old Nick Wayne offered an AEW contract


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darby just presented Nick with an AEW contract <a href="https://t.co/AAwA9VyrLU">pic.twitter.com/AAwA9VyrLU</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1492754624964530179?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AEW exploits their second child.

[Triple A]

being over doesnt mean youre not a comedy act.

He is a comedy act, of course. That was responding to Noid's "nobody likes him, there's no place for him at all, he should be fired" stuff

[Mr. Nerfect]

He is a comedy act, of course. That was responding to Noid's "nobody likes him, there's no place for him at all, he should be fired" stuff

What does a watches YouTube video prove? I click on YouTube and I see a cat climbing a screen door has millions of hits. Where is the evidence this is helping them?

[Frank Drebin]

Which cat?? AEW need to hire it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Which cat?? AEW need to hire it.

The cat has too much dignity.

[Lock Jaw]

Wish Ernest "The Cat" Miller would come back

[Mr. Nerfect]

If he fell on his ass and it got 30 million YT views we could call it a giant success.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ernest Miller & Brodus Clay should come back with Cameron and Mo Green. Finally time for them to get used right.

Sign Melina and Alicia Fox for the Women’s Division and you can finally compete with WWE. No one can rip on you about diversity then either.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Cassidy it’s ridiculously over and has been since debuting. He absolutely has a spot in the company. He just shouldn’t be hanging with the likes of their world champions. I said this way back when he got a ppv match with Pac. It was way too competitive given that Pac had beaten two future world champs and worked a draw with another. You don’t give a comedy act 15 minutes with Pac. You give him 5 work some shine and a decisive loss.

[xrodmuc316]

Ernest Miller & Brodus Clay should come back with Cameron and Mo Green. Finally time for them to get used right.

Sign Melina and Alicia Fox for the Women’s Division and you can finally compete with WWE. No one can rip on you about diversity then either.

Luchasaurus vs Funkasaurus :eek:

[Evil Vito]

Nick Wayne is a fucking fantastic add. Guy has a world of potential. Good to snap him up early.

[weather vane]

Luther looking jacked lately.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, next TNT special is very inspired…Battle of the Belts II.

[Jordan]

Miro was on The Kurt Angle show when he described the differences in AEW and WWE... interesting

As a guest on The Kurt Angle Show, AEW superstar Miro spoke about the key differences between his former company WWE and AEW. The former TNT Champion talked about what aspects of AEW are different compared to WWE, and why he believes AEW has more of an “Attitude Era-ish” vibe.


“Big differences, first, the creative,” Miro said. “There’s no writers, we just have Tony that writes certain things. But on a day-to-day basis, you’re pretty much in charge of your own writing. If you have a promo, yeah, Tony may have a suggestion, but usually, it’s going to be on you and what do you want to say.

“The matches, yeah, we have producers, or agents, or coaches as we call them, but they’re not going to be on every match and they’re not as hands-on as WWE is. They’re not going to tell you ‘Oh, they dived in the last match so you can’t do dives before that,’ the control level, it’s all about peer-to-peer. There’s not going to be a middle man, there’s not going to be a man on top that tells you what you can and can’t do.

“I had times where Vince tells me ‘Don’t smile, don’t look at the people, don’t raise your hand, don’t do this.’ Tony Khan is not going to do this, he’s a big wrestling fan and he wants to see good wrestling matches. The styles, you can tell the style is much different.

“If you watch WWE, you can tell it’s kind of the same pattern, same storyline, same people. While in AEW, we’re trying to be way different than that. Our matches are different, we have a lot more Attitude Era-ish, not with the blood and stuff, but just more Attitude Era to it. It’s more adult-oriented.”

Since the inception of AEW, many superstars have jumped the ship from WWE to Tony Khan’s company, with several revealing in their opinions, the key differences between companies and their fans. Paul Wight spoke about being excited about the different environment AEW has, while Bryan Danielson mentioned how accessible Tony Khan can be and how open the company is compared to WWE.

Miro continued to talk about AEW vs. WWE and named what he believes is the biggest difference between the two companies and how they operate. The former TNT Champion mentioned the differences in travel as well and talked about the idea of an offseason with AEW.

“The biggest thing is the freedom,” Miro said. “Also, we don’t travel 300 days in a row, we have one show a week, sometimes two, sometimes three if we have pay per views or whatever. Those are only so often and that’s what I love the most. The opportunity for me to rest my body, being home with my wife, going to work, doing my best and then going home and resting again. I think Tony was talking about off-seasons as well and all of that, he’s just a way different thinker.

“It’s not just the old carny thinking which I think a lot of wrestling promoters are just carny. This old carny vibe, they’re all trying to screw you over while I don’t think Tony is like that. I think Tony is a businessman first, he owns quite a few successful businesses and sports franchises and that’s how he operates for it.”

[Evil Vito]

Could just be a Dark/Elevation thing, but apparently the following tag team is backstage at AEW tonight:

Violence is Forever (Dominic Garrini and Kevin Ku) from MLW

If Danielson is building a stable, I'd love for them to be the tag team he recruits. Would be some real Team Filthy vibes.

[slik]

wish it was kevin blackwood

have no clue if kevin blackwood is a good rasller, just find him 'very attractive'

[Bad News Gertner]

They are an extremely small , boring ass team

[slik]

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[Triple A]

AEW gonna sign Buddy Matthews / Buddy Murphy according to Fightful

Sources within AEW in recent weeks have indicated that there was growing interest and rumblings about Matthews joining the company in some capacity, with some even heard that there were creative pitches made, with another source going as far as to say that creative is already decided. We've not confirmed the latter.

Several talent in AEW have been told that the working plans is to bring in Buddy Matthews, which has been going around since January.

[slik]

I assume he is the 'other person' Aleister alluded to tonight

[XL]

That would be a nice call back to their history. I was reminded of the Murphy/Mysterio angle by Wrestling With Wregret, it was an awful, never-ending storyline but it did a nice job of putting some focus on Murphy. Then they took him off TV entirely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, WWE gets Austin back and AEW signs Buddy Matthews.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Austin is 57 years old.

[Fignuts]

WWE has had Austin the whole time. He just hasn't wrestled. Which at this point, isn't something I can imagine being very good. Will be cool to see him walk down the ramp at mania though.

I actually enjoy Buddy Matthew's work, but he's another guy that AEW didn't need to sign. Their roster is bloated enough that if they are going to sign new talent, it needs to be people that stand out. Brody King and Keith Lee were good gets in that regard. Buddy, as much as I like him, is not.

[Fignuts]

Which brings me to my next question.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BUTCHER?

Seriously. Dude has a unique look and a different style that feels legit. He makes this big return where he cleans house, and then they do nothing with him. Come on, man.

[ron the dial]

i know for a while there he was gone because his band put out a new album but now that band is broken up so not sure what the deal is. seems to be the AEW style for a lot of mid/undercards guys: show up, do something for a week or 2, then disappear for a month or two.

[drave]

the band broke up

[ron the dial]

but now that band is broken up

[Mr. Nerfect]

Which brings me to my next question.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BUTCHER?

Seriously. Dude has a unique look and a different style that feels legit. He makes this big return where he cleans house, and then they do nothing with him. Come on, man.

I thought he was hurt, but that may be the other guy. Booking isn’t really this company’s strength, so it probably just comes down to that.

Buddy Matthews is just spot, spot, spot. Maybe he’s changed radically, but last I saw him was a Rumble pre-show match where KENTA was easily the guy who stood out. I think Matthews would suit New Japan and be a good underneath guy there they could elevate if they become desperate for gaijin because Ospreay and White leave.

In the US scene he best fits ROH and/or Impact, I think.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Big Swole is going to earn her second Tony Khan meltdown badge. In an interview she has pointed out that TK has a lot of power and his public statements about her ring skills were a bit of a mishandling of that power, but she’s also put him in for not bringing up this during her exit interview when she asked.

[Mr. Nerfect]

JR confirmed that his contract is up soon. He said that he’s not looking to go anywhere…but…

Seems like Cody was a big supporter of him. Austin might be coming back. The AEW style doesn’t suit him. Whether it’s going somewhere else or just back to the WWE, that doesn’t seem like the strangest of shifts.

And lol, if you’re not shopping around, why bring it up?

[Fignuts]

I thought he was hurt, but that may be the other guy. Booking isn’t really this company’s strength, so it probably just comes down to that.

Buddy Matthews is just spot, spot, spot. Maybe he’s changed radically, but last I saw him was a Rumble pre-show match where KENTA was easily the guy who stood out. I think Matthews would suit New Japan and be a good underneath guy there they could elevate if they become desperate for gaijin because Ospreay and White leave.

In the US scene he best fits ROH and/or Impact, I think.

I believe the match you're thinking of was a cruiserweight 4-way, so yeah that was always gonna be a spot fest.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video <a href="https://t.co/0KlRMcAzse">pic.twitter.com/0KlRMcAzse</a></p>&mdash; Blake (@CheckPointRage) <a href="https://twitter.com/CheckPointRage/status/1494188491109920769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Give me a hug and tell me I am great guys, and I will resign you!

[xrodmuc316]

Bumping thread for incoming Tony Khan Twitter meltdown when Cody shows up on Raw and says he got tired of trying to teach an intellectual 10 year old how the wrestling business works!

https://i.imgflip.com/65mbut.jpg

[GD]

Bumping thread for incoming Tony Khan Twitter meltdown when Cody shows up on Raw and says he got tired of trying to teach an intellectual 10 year old how the wrestling business works!

https://i.imgflip.com/65mbut.jpg

You're slowly becoming what you despise. A creepy manchild.

[xrodmuc316]

You're slowly becoming what you despise. A creepy manchild.

Tony Khan when Shad walks in... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

https://media4.giphy.com/media/l0HlVBzZBXHNb2Zu8/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611d324a360cf27a5764f1e4716036649dfd70f1ec1&rid=giphy.gif

[GD]

It's getting awfully boring, xrod. Nobody is disagreeing with you yet you relent. It's fucking weird dude.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I believe the match you're thinking of was a cruiserweight 4-way, so yeah that was always gonna be a spot fest.

There’s always room for working. KENTA proved that in the same match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Remember when people were calling TK a money mark, Dave was constantly defending him, then he went out and gave Shawn Spears a Stunner. All they could do was pull funny voices and say “he’s not a money mark” to defend it.

[Lock Jaw]

Cody shows up on Raw and says he got tired of trying to teach an intellectual 10 year old how the wrestling business works!

aedubbad

[Bad News Gertner]

Tony Khan when Shad walks in... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

https://media4.giphy.com/media/l0HlVBzZBXHNb2Zu8/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611d324a360cf27a5764f1e4716036649dfd70f1ec1&rid=giphy.gif

lmao amazing

[Triple A]

Christian hasn't wrestled in an AEW singles match since his loss to Kenny Omega at All Out on September 5

Has been in 5 multi-man matches since then, with the last one on December 29. Wonder if he is "banged up" or something or AEW is just not using him? I guess it's only been like a month and a half since he last wrestled so not so long to speculate about an injury

Feel like Khan maybe paid him a lot of money too... waste

[Destor]

i think he's just using old timers like the Japanese do is all

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The other side of <a href="https://twitter.com/thunderrosa22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thunderrosa22</a> vs. <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMMartinez?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealMMartinez</a> ❤️█��<a href="https://twitter.com/blountymcfly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@blountymcfly</a> was a real gentleman with that assist. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/hVFpe2ga03">pic.twitter.com/hVFpe2ga03</a></p>&mdash; KB ⚔️ (@kaylavision) <a href="https://twitter.com/kaylavision/status/1494352906648276997?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do you think Tony paid Cody to let him wank Pharaoh?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not a meltdown exactly, but Dustin Rhodes has been posting some weird shit about egos and trains on Twitter. Really going overboard with the rah-rah for AEW.

[Jordan]

Not a meltdown exactly, but Dustin Rhodes has been posting some weird shit about egos and trains on Twitter. Really going overboard with the rah-rah for AEW.

Yeah Dustin is cringe posting. Trying to decipher his intent behind the posts I'm thinking that he's attempting to "prove" to Tony Khan and the other EVP's that he's "cool" with them and "please don't make me leave too I don't like WWE".

I am going forward with the story that Cody and Tony and the EVP's can all co-exist together and even have a good time when the situation calls for it. But the hard lines that Cody has for himself and his growth weren't really on the table moving forward at AEW because of the big names coming in.

It makes sense. Cody's gotta go back to WWE and prove himself as a main eventer so he can come back to AEW and be a "real Champion". It's like no matter where he goes he's just not "the top guy" even if he was writing the show himself!

Also, fuck you Cody! You sonofabitch! You broke my heart!

[Jordan]

Christian hasn't wrestled in an AEW singles match since his loss to Kenny Omega at All Out on September 5

Has been in 5 multi-man matches since then, with the last one on December 29. Wonder if he is "banged up" or something or AEW is just not using him? I guess it's only been like a month and a half since he last wrestled so not so long to speculate about an injury

Feel like Khan maybe paid him a lot of money too... waste

i think he's just using old timers like the Japanese do is all

Yeah this keeps coming up in my mind when I see Christian cutting a promo for Lucha Express. It bothers me. Christian is a guy who will sink or swim based on how he's pushed to be perceived by the audience. He's super easy to get over as a nasty heel but as a babyface you really have to treat him well week by week so that his connection with the audience is fresh.

It's frustrating because Christian wants greatness in wrestling and he's capable of it but also he's capable of coming off boring when he's not in any kind of specific story that is interesting.

The only way out of this story right now is Christian eventually turns on the Lucha Express and has a nice feud with Jungle Boy to "get him on that next level". It's just frustrating in AEW sometimes. They have so many really amazing former WWE talent that can do really cool fun matches with a lot of former indy talent, just so many matches we've never seen that would be fun. Often times tough they are booking a level below that though and we get a Danielson vs Moriarty, probably not the best example because that match was really good. But what I'm saying is wouldn't you have rather seen a Danielson vs Chris Daniels match, or vs Pac, or Penta, or Malakai or Andrade or The Bucks or Brian Cage or Archer or Jay Lethal I mean the list goes on of interesting matches that people will be interested in. It may not always be an interest level that hooks the casual audience but AEW can always hook that wrestling nerd audience and that's their core.

[drave]

he's doing a great job going over on catering, as he always hashausen

[XL]

In think they like to keep a lot “in the back pocket”. I’d guess Christian vs. Jungle Boy is probably the destination but you’ve got to let it “cook” for a bit if you want it to have impact. Same with the Danielson thing, they could put on all those matches but they can also keep them tucked in the back pocket for when they “need” them. Seems like they like to sprinkle a couple of matches on each show to get the audience to tune in, might be they need to start working at that “next level” if they want to get that audience above the million more often.

[xrodmuc316]

Dustin has to keep sucking up to Tony because unlike his brother who kept it classy, this idiot went out of his way to bury WWE every chance he could.

[Jordan]

I think the roster is big enough and they have few enough hours on TV to go ahead and start booking on that higher level. They shouldn't be juggling 350k viewers each week, keep them hooked.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s not the first time Dustin has been a bit cringe on Twitter, probably won’t be the last, but I’d say that “proving himself” to AEW perspective lends true.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christian Cage vs. Jungle Boy might actually be the best feud AEW ever actually puts on. Lol if they never get to it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TK cannot help himself. He’s planning something “massive” for pro-wrestling in the coming week. Fucking. Stop.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m a massive fan of your work. Congrats boss. Keep GOING.</p>&mdash; ��️at McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1494745051489988613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m a massive fan of your work. Congrats boss. Keep GOING.</p>&mdash; ��️at McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1494745051489988613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol, remember when wrestlers used to ignore these awards? Because they were worth ignoring.

[XL]

Do you think Tony paid Cody to let him wank Pharaoh?

C’mon man, you’re so much better than shit like this.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I'm working on something pretty big. It would be massive. <br><br>I don't know if it's what anybody would expect or think it is, but it would be a big deal in pro wrestling.”<br><br>- Tony Khan<br>(via Busted Open) <a href="https://t.co/mcxcF2QM2f">pic.twitter.com/mcxcF2QM2f</a></p>&mdash; WrestlePurists (@WrestlePurists) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlePurists/status/1494732605463347202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I'm working on something pretty big. It would be massive. <br><br>I don't know if it's what anybody would expect or think it is, but it would be a big deal in pro wrestling.”<br><br>- Tony Khan<br>(via Busted Open) <a href="https://t.co/mcxcF2QM2f">pic.twitter.com/mcxcF2QM2f</a></p>&mdash; WrestlePurists (@WrestlePurists) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlePurists/status/1494732605463347202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL you gotta be joking! Every time they can't get a million on Dynamite this conman hypes up a big surprise. He makes it very hard to enjoy AEW.

[Fignuts]

Was ring of honor not on television in 2021?

Cause Ian Riccoboni is better than everyone else, and it's not close.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was ring of honor not on television in 2021?

Cause Ian Riccoboni is better than everyone else, and it's not close.

Agreed. And Kevin Kelly is doing better work than anyone in AEW. And JR is better than any of his AEW colleagues. But it’s all about what’s en vogue. A shiny new thing will come along and nothing will change about AEW but Excalibur will drop down the ranks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

C’mon man, you’re so much better than shit like this.

You’re right. I already know the answer.

[GD]

Yikes. What a fucking creep.

[Vastardikai]

It's the Bullet Cult that votes on this, and they worship at the altar of Dave Meltzer. These folks think that CM Punk is a better box office draw than Roman Reigns.

[Triple A]

Regarding the Tony Khan announcement of something big he's been working on, what we do know is he was in meetings all day yesterday trying to put it together.

https://www.f4wonline.com/news/daily-updates/daily-update-tony-khan-kairi-weekend-schedule

Wonder what it could be!!

[Jordan]

Wonder what it could be!!

My guess is Craven Cottage show in UK or a real Stadium Stampede in Jacksonville this summer on PPV.

[Jordan]

I feel like we are getting to know Tony and I think we can all agree fan of his or not that he is a bit reactionary. WWE is having a stadium show every other month it seems so I can see Tony getting hungry to get that look for AEW as well.

[Jordan]

And I'd agree that Excalibur is the best announcer of the year. There is only one announcer that never annoys me though and that is Tony Schiavonie.

[xrodmuc316]

Kenny Omega...

That’s sort of where The Bucks and I differed, we never wanted to go to war with Vince [McMahon] and WWE, we just wanted to give people an option and have a platform for our style of storytelling and our style of wrestling

Because you know, there isnt hours of interviews or podcasts or social media posts and bio updates or BTE videos of Kenny and The Bucks taking shots at WWE or anything.....

CODYBAD

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Kenny Omega...



Because you know, there isnt hours of interviews or podcasts or social media posts and bio updates or BTE videos of Kenny and The Bucks taking shots at WWE or anything.....

CODYBAD

Omega and The Bucks are morons.

[GD]

Omega and The Bucks are morons.

Morons who made it as independent wrestlers and are now an integral part of the second biggest wrestling company in NA. While you're just a bitter old man who has hot takes about content he doesn't consume. Things change, sorry you got left behind.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah Dustin is cringe posting. Trying to decipher his intent behind the posts I'm thinking that he's attempting to "prove" to Tony Khan and the other EVP's that he's "cool" with them and "please don't make me leave too I don't like WWE".

I am going forward with the story that Cody and Tony and the EVP's can all co-exist together and even have a good time when the situation calls for it. But the hard lines that Cody has for himself and his growth weren't really on the table moving forward at AEW because of the big names coming in.

It makes sense. Cody's gotta go back to WWE and prove himself as a main eventer so he can come back to AEW and be a "real Champion". It's like no matter where he goes he's just not "the top guy" even if he was writing the show himself!

Also, fuck you Cody! You sonofabitch! You broke my heart!

Think this is my favorite take on that matter so far. Andy I think you’re right. I could easily see Cody getting a world title run in AEW in a heel or face run. But not anytime soon and prob not for quite a few years with how the current roster is set up.

Hangman likely drops it to MJF, who maybe drops it to Wardlow. That’s prob a good 1.5-2 years worth of booking given they’ve booked every champ with an at least 6 month reign. And even if Cody stayed and got a world title win in 2 years, you can’t predict what his fan support or momentum would be.

I’ll add that I really do wonder if Cody was dead fucking set on being a babyface instead of embracing the heel role the fans wanted. And that maybe that’s where things broke down and Cody decided to money on a bigger stage for a company that groomed him and is in desperate need of babyface main event talent.

If that was the reason, that’s another bummer. I like heel Cody.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I think maybe the point of signing Christian was to have him wrestle semi regularly and build him up for programs when needed. I do think we get Christian v Jungle Boy at Double or Nothing, which I think would be the 1 year anniversary of JB eliminating Christian in the battle royal, where JB’s current push started.

[XL]

Tony should def book a show called New Years Eve Meltdown.

[xrodmuc316]

Yikes. What a fucking creep.

Ive been saying that forever, creepy ass Tony Khan. He sits in a room and just stares at a poster of CM Punk making kissy faces.

[GD]

Ugh, you should see that video where he makes Ruby Solo uncomfortable. Such a creep.

[Jordan]

I think maybe the point of signing Christian was to have him wrestle semi regularly and build him up for programs when needed. I do think we get Christian v Jungle Boy at Double or Nothing, which I think would be the 1 year anniversary of JB eliminating Christian in the battle royal, where JB’s current push started.

Yeah that is totally the story to go with and probably what is going on. It's just frustrating that Christian has to take a real far back seat for so long. He's a huge name and if used properly could be a huge asset. There just so many interesting matches that AEW can book for those big name talents and they just aren't getting those matches done very often, and it frustrates me.

[xrodmuc316]

Jim Ross Notes Similarities Between Tony Khan And ‘Cowboy’ Bill Watts

Just like Bill Watts, Tony also thinks restaurant owners should be able to refuse serving black people.

Why is TK so racist?

[Jordan]

I can't believe Tony said that!

[xrodmuc316]

I can't believe Tony said that!

He is racist and has the self control of a 6 year old.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jim Ross Notes Similarities Between Tony Khan And ‘Cowboy’ Bill Watts



Why is TK so racist?

When TK put Jay Lethal into the Lio Rush spot, people heard him call Lethal “Shelton.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah that is totally the story to go with and probably what is going on. It's just frustrating that Christian has to take a real far back seat for so long. He's a huge name and if used properly could be a huge asset. There just so many interesting matches that AEW can book for those big name talents and they just aren't getting those matches done very often, and it frustrates me.

Christian is one of my favorites ever. AEW has made me not care about his return after 7 years or so of being deprived.

TK hates black people and Canadians. Chris Jericho was born in New York and Kenny Omega is his token.

[xrodmuc316]

Renee Moxley was asked who had the better year, the company that made a Billion Dollars, or the company that is just bleeding money.

“I have to say AEW did,” Paquette said. “I think just in terms of obviously their signings. I think of the opportunities, and you know, within WWE, they just keep going."

SHOCKER!!! :rofl:

[Fignuts]

Yes the wife of one of AEW's top stars said AEW had the better year.

Hot, exclusive scoop from xrod.

[ron the dial]

aedub bad

[xrodmuc316]

Yes the wife of one of AEW's top stars said AEW had the better year.

Hot, exclusive scoop from xrod.

Yeah that is why I said the shocker part bro :rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

The goal of a promotion is not to make money, guys. It’s to earn the approval rating of biased commentators.

[GD]

So a technical division with Gable, Thatcher, Riddle and WALTER is useless? Duly noted.

[xrodmuc316]

So a technical division with Gable, Thatcher, Riddle and WALTER is useless? Duly noted.

Thatcher was released. Also, who is Walter?? :rofl:

[Jordan]

Oh my God, how have I not read this until now?

The current Phoenix of Rise Champion for Rise Wrestling went further regarding her feelings about the whole scenario and Tony Khan‘s comments after she was let go.

“I was like dude, you weren’t saying all that when you was smoking my weed,” Swole explained. “He said that we were friends and I was like — what gets me upset is that when someone says that you’re friends and like, of course, he has all the money in the world. He can buy all the shmizz he wants to but I’m gracious enough to give what I have in fellowship, break bread with you. I’m opening up my heart to you. You said that we’re friends. I called you, we’d text. It’s just upsetting because I thought that it was genuine and I’m a cancer [zodiac sign], I’m an emotional person and when I let people inside of my heart when I let people inside of my circle, my family, that’s important to me and for someone to break that line of trust is just — it’s unbelievable. It’s heartbreaking. Really it is because I thought we were friends. But damn.”

Tony smoked her weed!

[GD]

Thatcher was released. Also, who is Walter?? :rofl:

Are we going to associate logic with a previously established hypothetical scenario? :rofl:

[Sting Fan]

I love Excalibur…

[Mr. Nerfect]

https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1495896136787312642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1495896136787312642%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wrestlingforum.com%2Fthreads%2Faew-social-media-wants-to-know-whos-your-favorite-charisma-vacuum.2441650%2F

You cannot make this shit up.

[drave]

"I'm a Cancer"




Yes, you are.

[Jordan]

I wonder if Tony was hanging out at Swole's place to smoke her weed and Swole thought Tony wanted to hookup but he just wanted to talk to someone about how all of Savage's best work came BEFORE WWF, not AFTER, and how fucked up it is all the amazing footage of ICW gets buried under that bullshit Mania 3 match with Steamboat.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SOUND OFF 🗣 Which wrestler does this describe? <a href="https://t.co/T87FMckGA7">pic.twitter.com/T87FMckGA7</a></p>&mdash; AEW on TV (@AEWonTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1495896136787312642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You cannot make this shit up.

LOL Smile is important :rofl:

[Jordan]

I don't even remotely get it.

[Bad News Gertner]

So a technical division with Gable, Thatcher, Riddle and WALTER is useless? Duly noted.

Does it draw viewers or money? No.

Xrodmuc, educate the man

[screech]

I love me some technical rasslin, but I 100p understand that not everyone likes it. The kids whose parents take them to shows want the flippy stuff.

[screech]

I can't take anyone seriously who feels the need to mention their zodiac sign.

[drave]

Also shouldn't try to be "friends" with your "boss". Never works well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't even remotely get it.

AEW’s social media partners accidentally burying their talent again by implying their talent has limited charisma. Threads are filled with people talking about AEW wrestlers with no charisma. :lol:

By the way, apparently the 3 names that keep popping up are Ethan Page, Serena Deeb and Tay Conti. But at least they have a nice smile.

[drave]

Eh, same goes for any fed, honestly.

[Sepholio]

AEW’s social media partners accidentally burying their talent again by implying their talent has limited charisma. Threads are filled with people talking about AEW wrestlers with no charisma. :lol:

By the way, apparently the 3 names that keep popping up are Ethan Page, Serena Deeb and Tay Conti. But at least they have a nice smile.

lol first name that popped into my head was Sammy Guevara.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve low-key thought the video game is going to be a major moment in the history of AEW. They’ve sunk a lot of money into it. Potentially, it could switch a lot of people onto AEW. BUT…

I’m of the opinion that Kenny Omega is an actual idiot. You can hear it as he talks to fans, or about Shibata’s headbutts or in his wrestling choices. But I figured he might actually know video games. But secretly I’ve always been suspicious he’s got no clue what he’s doing.

He’s just released a new interview talking about the game. It sounds…messy. A lot of non-information about it just being designed to be “fun.” And he basically outright says that it won’t be able to compete with WWE 2k in terms of graphics. I’m getting major Homer designing Herb’s car vibes.

Also, what the hell is the roster going to look like? AEW’s roster never stays static enough for it to be accurately represented in a game.

[Mr. Nerfect]

lol first name that popped into my head was Sammy Guevara.

He’s a good pick! Might be a little high on strength though.

[Lock Jaw]

I’ve low-key thought the video game is going to be a major moment in the history of AEW. They’ve sunk a lot of money into it. Potentially, it could switch a lot of people onto AEW. BUT…

I’m of the opinion that Kenny Omega is an actual idiot. You can hear it as he talks to fans, or about Shibata’s headbutts or in his wrestling choices. But I figured he might actually know video games. But secretly I’ve always been suspicious he’s got no clue what he’s doing.

He’s just released a new interview talking about the game. It sounds…messy. A lot of non-information about it just being designed to be “fun.” And he basically outright says that it won’t be able to compete with WWE 2k in terms of graphics. I’m getting major Homer designing Herb’s car vibes.

Also, what the hell is the roster going to look like? AEW’s roster never stays static enough for it to be accurately represented in a game.

I imagine Cody Rhodes was probably a character they considered "safe" to heavily develop....

[drave]

I’ve low-key thought the video game is going to be a major moment in the history of AEW. They’ve sunk a lot of money into it. Potentially, it could switch a lot of people onto AEW. BUT…

I’m of the opinion that Kenny Omega is an actual idiot. You can hear it as he talks to fans, or about Shibata’s headbutts or in his wrestling choices. But I figured he might actually know video games. But secretly I’ve always been suspicious he’s got no clue what he’s doing.

He’s just released a new interview talking about the game. It sounds…messy. A lot of non-information about it just being designed to be “fun.” And he basically outright says that it won’t be able to compete with WWE 2k in terms of graphics. I’m getting major Homer designing Herb’s car vibes.

Also, what the hell is the roster going to look like? AEW’s roster never stays static enough for it to be accurately represented in a game.




If you remove your bias for Omega and instead focus on the game, you could make better points.



So far, the game seems to play like the old school N64 wrestling games (No Mercy, WCW v NWO, etc.). If that is actually the case, that aspect alone will be enough to be a very successful game. Those games worked well because they were easy to play, and very fun to play.



Nintendo has shown that graphics are not the desire of every gamer, not even close. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, for example, looks "okay" but not "good" by today's standards, or even when it was made.


In terms of it being compared to WWE games...... if it does indeed play like the games above, it will destroy any game WWE puts out. 2k22 is looking like "more of the same" with a few changes. In my gamer opinion, they shit the bed by only scanning a portion of their roster. When you have someone who has been scanned vs someone who hasn't, its is blatantly obvious and makes the product look worse.