All Elite Wrestling

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Only works if he walks out on a match with the Young Bucks and says “I respect you, booker men!”

[Destor]

shits a work. no man on earth would powder at the sight of punk.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Vastardikai]

And Thunder Rosa is pissed about her lack of TV Time. Which, I don't blame her. I mean, for fuck sake, Britt gets more airtime in one episode than Rosa got in a month. You know, she's only the fucking Women's Champion. And if MJF was starting out at 40k, I can guess Rosa wasn't getting much more.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wonder if it was all real, then they worked it out (or so Tony thought) and decided to work a shoot, but then MJF was all like naw bro, this is still a real shoot sucker. That would be amazing.

It’d be great if MJF did fuck them over, but it’s pretty safe to say that once this shit appears on Dynamite it’s all part of the shitshow.

[xrodmuc316]

Not ANYONE.

Your mother told me I’m an excellent kisser but I often have whiskey breath.

Nothing like a dude pushing 40 still rocking "your mom" insults lol. No wonder you like a 43 year old who still acts like a 14 year old punkrocker, NOFX and PENNYWISE yeahhhhhhhh!!!

[Sting Fan]

Wild week or so...

Anyway

Hangman v. Okada has me pretty excited if it happens. I have never seen an Okada match but heard the hype and frankly Hangman could probably drag me to a 4 star match the way hes rolled lately so should be hot shit.

[#1-norm-fan]

No wonder you like a 43 year old who still acts like a 14 year old punkrocker, NOFX and PENNYWISE yeahhhhhhhh!!!

Believe PENNYWISE is the evil clown from “IT”. No clue what NOFX is. Was that just you banging your fist on the keyboard out of anger because I brought up your newest failed “Gotcha” and you got embarrassed again? Wanna talk about it?

[Jordan]

MJF signed a new deal for an added year or so and a lot more money, and is being groomed for mega match with Punk For the strap at All Out.

[#1-norm-fan]

Taking his merch down and removing him from the roster page might be a bit much. They wouldn’t suddenly do that if it were a shoot so it doesn’t make sense to do it while pretending it’s a shoot.

[Jordan]

Yeah that is really stupid tbh

[Fignuts]

I do like the idea of MJF taking the belt off punk.

[ron the dial]

I do like the idea of MJF taking the belt off punk.

it's the only reason to put the belt on punk imo

[#1-norm-fan]

My only small concern with that is what do you do with Wardlow for the next year?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Build Wardlow up for DoN next year where he dethrones MJF for the gold.

I’ve said it countless times but MJF is the guy to take the belt off Punk. There’s nobody else. It would be ballsy to do it at All Out in Chicago, one year after Punk made his in ring return. I would love it. I hope they do it.

[ron the dial]

last i heard all out is not necessarily in chicago this year but i guess that may have changed

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That would also give Punk the shortest world title reign in company history. He’d barely need champ 90 days while most champs have been around double that.

[ron the dial]

good

[Jordan]

Wardlow I think soon will be the main guy in the TNT title picture. I'm not sure what exactly this Mark Sterling storyline is, or if it was just a one and done thing. But I think Wardlow regaining from Scorpio makes a lot of sense. Build it up for a main event of Fyter Fest or whichever gimmickdd Dynamite they want.

Have MJF go through the legends of AEW but meet his maker at DON 2023, WARDLOW. Who hopefully soon has better not death screamo entrance music! Kiss my butt!

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andrew Zarian: “[Warner/Discover] are very AEW positive . . . From everything I heard the meeting went great, Tony’s relationship is really strong with them. They understand that they are in a very unique position that they have this hot commodity.” <a href="https://t.co/Pl7voRFzFP">pic.twitter.com/Pl7voRFzFP</a></p>&mdash; Big AO ���� (@KXNGAO) <a href="https://twitter.com/KXNGAO/status/1532778415438319616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW star Sammy Guevara just proposed to his GF, fellow pro wrestling star Tay Conti, at the Eiffel Tower. <a href="https://t.co/Qmdl0ay7hI">https://t.co/Qmdl0ay7hI</a></p>&mdash; TMZ (@TMZ) <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1532801277561798656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ron the dial]

lol remember when he proposed to pam on tv

what a dingus

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, even Dave Meltzer is shitting on the MJF fiasco.

[xrodmuc316]

Believe PENNYWISE is the evil clown from “IT”. No clue what NOFX is. Was that just you banging your fist on the keyboard out of anger because I brought up your newest failed “Gotcha” and you got embarrassed again? Wanna talk about it?

Sigh, you don't even know bands from the genre of your hero smh...

https://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/

https://pennywisdom.com/

[#1-norm-fan]

Wardlow I think soon will be the main guy in the TNT title picture. I'm not sure what exactly this Mark Sterling storyline is, or if it was just a one and done thing. But I think Wardlow regaining from Scorpio makes a lot of sense. Build it up for a main event of Fyter Fest or whichever gimmickdd Dynamite they want.

Have MJF go through the legends of AEW but meet his maker at DON 2023, WARDLOW. Who hopefully soon has better not death screamo entrance music! Kiss my butt!

I like this idea. Wardlow holding the TV Title for a year before relinquishing it after he wins the world title would do fucking wonders for the credibility of the TV title. Drill home the fact that it’s a stepping stone to the world title picture and make it a TV draw.

[xrodmuc316]

Phil's Face When...

https://i.imgflip.com/6ijr0n.gif

[Sepholio]

lol so when does MJF get crowned interim champ?

[Jordan]

Moxley vs Tanahashi for the Interim Belt would be good, so would Omege vs Tanahashi. Hopefully they go with Omega Man.

[Crippla]

Believe PENNYWISE is the evil clown from “IT”. No clue what NOFX is. Was that just you banging your fist on the keyboard out of anger because I brought up your newest failed “Gotcha” and you got embarrassed again? Wanna talk about it?

Lol apparently they're some kind of punk rock band according to google. Never heard of them but they all look like they're like 80 years old. I thought NOFX was some kind of clothing brand, I have a vague memory of this kid wearing a NOFX sweatshirt when I was in like middle school

[Crippla]

I do like the idea of MJF taking the belt off punk.

Yeah that could be an awesome program too. I don't think it should be a one off meaning I think MJF should take the belt but they should stretch it out for maybe 2 PPVs

[Fignuts]

I have zero interest in Moxley vs Tanahashi. If they were going to say "fuck the rankings" and put who ever they want at the top, why wouldn't you make it Danielson?

[#1-norm-fan]

It could still end up being Danielson vs Tanahashi.

Though having Danielson vs Moxley on just 90 minutes on hype would be a missed opportunity.

[Helmsphere]

Just put the title on Pac

[Sepholio]

MJF scrubbed from all of AEWs intros.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Boooooooooooorrrrrrriiiiiing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This company fucking sucks.

[xrodmuc316]

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[xrodmuc316]

LOL Tiny Khan is such a douchebag

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[slik]

News sites reporting Bryan Danielson injured

[slik]

Same

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm struggling with how 2 wrestlers who have never wrestled for AEW are in the AEW World title picture. <a href="https://t.co/jWCu5E4Eue">https://t.co/jWCu5E4Eue</a></p>&mdash; Raj Giri (@TheRajGiri) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1533542743842050048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

https://i.imgflip.com/6ipq8q.jpg

:lol:

[Vastardikai]

Fun history: Undertaker vs Mankind is the most memorable of all the Hell in a Cell matches. Mankind went off the Cell and through it. Why did he feel the need to do those things? Because the Undertaker was injured going into that match. His injury? A broken foot.

[xrodmuc316]

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[wwe2222]

What exactly is an interim world champion? They are only champ until Punk comes back?

[Jordan]

What exactly is an interim world champion? They are only champ until Punk comes back?

In MMA when a reigning champion suffers an injury that will keep them out under a year (usually that's the time line) the company with make a match between the top contenders an Interim Championship match where the winner will be paid in full as a champion but under the understanding they will fight the reigning (injured) champion when he returns in an Undisputed Championship fight.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Look, while I don’t deride guys for not performing injured, it has to occur to me that this was major “shots fired” and very strategic on the part of Cody to deliver where the ageing, pampered star of AEW would take a dive. It definitely makes one guy seem more “punk” than the other guy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Concussions can happen anywhere, and it may be unreasonable for me to pin it on the company, and Danielson is making his own choices — but I will be quite cranky if his career ends in the swamp that is AEW.

Eh, it’s his choice. No one forced him to go. I guess it’s on him to ruin what he’s built. It’s just frustrating. Major Mick Foley in TNA vibes.

[#1-norm-fan]

In MMA when a reigning champion suffers an injury that will keep them out under a year (usually that's the time line) the company with make a match between the top contenders an Interim Championship match where the winner will be paid in full as a champion but under the understanding they will fight the reigning (injured) champion when he returns in an Undisputed Championship fight.

And only the winner of that undisputed championship fight’s reign gets recognized, right?

So if, say, Moxley wins but then loses to Punk, Punk’s reign will be recognized as having never ended and Moxley’s reign never actually happened. But if Moxley beats Pink, Punk’s reign retroactively ends when Moxley became interim champion and Moxley’s reign retroactively begins then.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Same

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm struggling with how 2 wrestlers who have never wrestled for AEW are in the AEW World title picture. <a href="https://t.co/jWCu5E4Eue">https://t.co/jWCu5E4Eue</a></p>&mdash; Raj Giri (@TheRajGiri) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1533542743842050048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’ll remind you this is a promotion built on facts and statistics, thank you very much.

[xrodmuc316]

I’ll remind you this is a promotion built on facts and statistics, thank you very much.

https://i.redd.it/n504rxhtft391.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

https://i.redd.it/n504rxhtft391.jpg

For the same reason Hirooki Goto is getting a more clear shot at the belt than any AEW top contender not named Jon Moxley is.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Give me Moxley v Goto. Fucking love Goto.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Psst, it’s bad booking. AEW sucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m just waiting for the “You’ve got to actually fire me to make this work, Tony.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

He should do it after convincing TK he should be Interim AEW World Champion.

[Jordan]

And only the winner of that undisputed championship fight’s reign gets recognized, right?

So if, say, Moxley wins but then loses to Punk, Punk’s reign will be recognized as having never ended and Moxley’s reign never actually happened. But if Moxley beats Pink, Punk’s reign retroactively ends when Moxley became interim champion and Moxley’s reign retroactively begins then.

That's not the way it works in the UFC but I could see AEW doing it that way, but also I don't see Mox getting the Undisputed belt over Punk tbh.

[#1-norm-fan]

That’s how I thought interim titles worked (in boxing at least). What’s the point of having an interim championship if that’s not the case? Why not just strip the title, crown a new champion and then let the old champion instantly be #1 contender when he returns?

[XL]

In this instance it’s because they don’t want the record to show Punk’s first reign lasting 3 days.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In this instance it’s because they don’t want the record to show Punk’s first reign lasting 3 days.

Instead it’s going to have asterisks, carets, tiny numbers and a different colour of shading on the row.

[Vastardikai]

Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.

I think they shot themselves into a work, then worked themselves into a shoot.

I mean, imagine, dropping an F Bomb on National Television in front of Network Executives. But hey, Game of Thrones on HBO is the exact same thing as AEW on TBS, so we should have the same shit be featured on both, right?

[xrodmuc316]

Admitted big fan of Adam Cole, but both of these are gold!

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[xrodmuc316]

Check must have cleared

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[Jordan]

lmao what?

[Jordan]

Because of gas prices the gates were actually higher for DON so...

[#1-norm-fan]

… Gate and paid attendance aren’t the same thing. There’s no contradiction there.

He said HIAC had a higher gate. Some idiot claimed he said that HIAC had a higher paid attendance and he rightly corrected him. Lol

[Tom Guycott]

I’m just waiting for the “You’ve got to actually fire me to make this work, Tony.”

Worked for Danielson.

[Tom Guycott]

I think they shot themselves into a work, then worked themselves into a shoot.

I mean, imagine, dropping an F Bomb on National Television in front of Network Executives. But hey, Game of Thrones on HBO is the exact same thing as AEW on TBS, so we should have the same shit be featured on both, right?

What's funny to me about it is that we had shit like Nick Gage and the infamous pizza cutter right before a paid pizza spot not getting any eyebrows raised until the competition essentially narc'd on them, but then a guy doing something interesting has to be ushered away quickly.

Tony can't hire the Briscoes because of something one of the brothers said a decade ago, but almost everybody else up and down the card can be motherfuckers.

Honestly at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the network unironically pulls the "international object" card and "no gratutious violence". Not even in reference to WCW either; the suit suggesting it will think it's a totally new idea they just thought up.

[Vastardikai]

What's funny to me about it is that we had shit like Nick Gage and the infamous pizza cutter right before a paid pizza spot not getting any eyebrows raised until the competition essentially narc'd on them, but then a guy doing something interesting has to be ushered away quickly.

Yes. It was the competition. Even I admit that it's likely that someone from WWE called the higher ups at Dominoes... after the shit storm started. To cover their asses. Because the story isn't going to mention AEW at all, it's going to mention "Pro Wrestling." And for the average person, "Pro Wrestling" = "WWE." I mean, it's not like there were more than a couple of folks throwing shit on Twitter about how Nick Gage was doing Nick Gage things while his weapon of choice was being used as intended during a commercial. And it's not like someone tagged Dominoes, thinking it was funny. And Dominoes likely doesn't want to have their product associated with a bank addicted drug robber.

Tony can't hire the Briscoes because of something one of the brothers said a decade ago, but almost everybody else up and down the card can be motherfuckers.

It could be the fact that a decade ago, One of the Briscoes said a Homophobia. Or it could be just as likely that there are promos of them online from this year where half of the content was the word "Fuck." Where do you think my "Standards and Practices" bit came from in that one booking post I made? Because Dem Boys like to use spicy language that turn away people who buy shit.

Honestly at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the network unironically pulls the "international object" card and "no gratutious violence". Not even in reference to WCW either; the suit suggesting it will think it's a totally new idea they just thought up.

I mean, I get it. I really do. However, some things don't make sense. Primarily: How the shit does people scream conspiracy when there is a much more logical reason for things going wrong in AEW.

Like, the Executives were right there at the show, invited by Khan himself. They heard MJF say Shit and Fuck. I get being into the entertainment aspect of wrestling, but it's also a business. Said Executives are thinking dollars and cents. And advertisers don't tend to care for edgier content. Especially lately. I am a fucking Unemployed Auto Parts Salesman (as of Today, long story), and somehow I understand how Television works better than the Son of a Billionaire who mismanages 2 sports teams and 2 wrestling promotions (when is the first ROH show, btw?).

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Think I’d like to see Eddie Kingston win the interim title. It’s different, he’s one af, and being a gritty underdog champion is something they haven’t had yet. Who knows how serious Punk’s injury is but if it’s 8-12 weeks, a Kingston run with his promo ability wouldn’t be bad, IMO. And I just love Eddie Kingston.

It’ll prob be Moxley though.

[#1-norm-fan]

I’d love Kingston to get a world title run even if it’s just an interim one but if they do that he’d have to drop it to someone like Jericho before Punk gets back or commit to a Punk heel turn because Punk taking the title from Eddie would make people hate him.

[XL]

Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.

Hold up. Isn’t this part of the work? Wouldn’t he have been removed/pulled his merch to sell the angle? Didn’t WWE do exactly this with Sasha/Naomi? Isn’t it art* imitating life?

* Not calling AEW art.

[xrodmuc316]

Estimates for Double or Nothing are 155k buys, continuing the downward trend each PPV has had since their all time high 205k buys for All Out.

Tiny Khan of course spun it completely different, ignoring the last 3 PPVs and bragging they are growing their business because they did 9,000 more buys than last years Double or Nothing.

I suppose if his stupid rich daddy is dumb enough to believe that increasing the spending by 3 times to get an extra 9000 buys shows growth, maybe Tiny is a better Khanman than we all know.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hold up. Isn’t this part of the work? Wouldn’t he have been removed/pulled his merch to sell the angle? Didn’t WWE do exactly this with Sasha/Naomi? Isn’t it art* imitating life?

* Not calling AEW art.

I’m not saying it isn’t part of the work. I’m just saying it would be funny if he worked Tony free of his contract and it became a shoot again.

[#1-norm-fan]

Would be VERY funny if he worked himself into a shoot to work Tony into a shoot just to go to Vince and work HIM into a shoot which becomes a work so he can shoot himself into a work with Tony that then becomes a shoot.

[Lock Jaw]

* Not calling AEW art.

ARTISTIC COMBAT

[XL]

I’m not saying it isn’t part of the work. I’m just saying it would be funny if he worked Tony free of his contract and it became a shoot again.

It was more the bit where you specify that he was removed “by WBD”.

Lol, MJF has gotten himself removed from AEW promotional material by WBD. It would be amazing if he actually went the full Pillmam (instead of just faux Pillman) and took the shoot, made it a work, then shot his way out of his AEW contract.

That’s the part that made it sound like you weren’t considering it to be part of the work.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It was more the bit where you specify that he was removed “by WBD”.



That’s the part that made it sound like you weren’t considering it to be part of the work.

It was an edict issued by WBD. It’s all part of the work. The work is bafflingly stupid.

I would just find it amusing if MJF has convinced Tony to work with him to the point MJF can actually get out of his AEW deal early.

[Mr. Nerfect]

ARTISTIC COMBAT

It is neither artistic nor combat, but I am indifferent to it and it does clox up my television screen.

Just kidding: AEW doesn’t have a TV deal in Australia.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Forbidden Door looks like the raging shits.

Tanahashi vs. Moxley for the fake title? Okada vs. Diamond Hearst Page in the most underwhelming use for Okada outside a meaningless tag? Holy shit. This card is piss water.

[Fignuts]

I'm feeling pretty nonplussed about it. All the potential match ups they could have had, they come up with the most mediocre ideas.

How do you not do Okada vs Daneilson for the IWGP title?

[Fignuts]

Im gonna draw up my own card here in a while

[Wehttam]

oh can you do a 7 of clubs

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm feeling pretty nonplussed about it. All the potential match ups they could have had, they come up with the most mediocre ideas.

How do you not do Okada vs Daneilson for the IWGP title?

My guess is that Danielson’s too hurt. That would have been the A1 match though. Adam Page is fucking boring in that slot. Give him some time off to rehab the horrible job they’ve done with him.

[Fignuts]

Daneilson is only expected to miss 1-2 weeks.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Sting Fan]

I have never seen an Okada match but heard the hype. Okada vs. Hangman has me buying the PPV because Hangman would take a broom to 4.5 stars atm.

Otherwise the NJPW stuff leaves me a bit flat. I understand travel etc probably makes it a bit hard but if your gonna do an invasion angle do an invasion angle. The bits and pieces showing up weekly isnt doing it for me as there not guys I know and am hanging out to see.

That said its all a bit stuffed up atm with injuries etc.

Wardlow as TNT champ should be good fun. Got time to get the Punk turn in (although the injury complicates that) and then have Wardlow steamroll him if the reactions continue.

[Sting Fan]

Oh and hot take time...

I like Eddie Kingston but I don't want him anywhere near the world title. I think AEW have actually done a good job with making the world title credible to date and I think if Eddie was having this run 5-10 years from now with a long lineage to the belt I could see him winning it and a quick drop but I have less than 0 interest in Eddie Kingston World Champion right now.

If we are doing a quick feel good win and drop within a month I would rather Darby or JB maybe even Starks with a face turn win it out of nowhere to start a long arc of "I had the belt but I wasn't good enough to keep it, now I gotta grow to have my time truly on top".

Not so hot take, can Adam Cole go away for a bit now? Please... like really please. I dont want to see the guy injured, I just dont want to see him.

- Edit - Darby for the quick win and drop... he would do a sick couple year long chase culminating in MJF losing his first title.

[Lock Jaw]

Glad that people here have turned on Adam Cole....

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Adam Cole is the least interesting person in AEW.

Had a sinking feeling he was going to win this interim title before the show started.

[Sting Fan]

Glad that people here have turned on Adam Cole....

I never really watched NXT so had very little exposure to the guy. I was excited when he came in, I was into the entrance etc but it got old fast and just feels off.

I wonder if he should be a face, the whole stable things too big now but fans want to cheer him, maybe it’s time to let them.

[xrodmuc316]

Glad that people here have turned on Adam Cole....

Adam Cole is still better than CM Punk.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

My argument for Kingston is he’s red hot over and has stayed that way since going face, he’s a stellar promo, and because it’s interim and likely won’t be recognized, it’s fine IMO to give him a run that ultimately won’t “count”. The only problem is he’ll likely get cheered over Punk, but then again that can make Punk a heel and that’s what he’s best at.

[xrodmuc316]

My argument for Kingston is he’s red hot over and has stayed that way since going face, he’s a stellar promo, and because it’s interim and likely won’t be recognized, it’s fine IMO to give him a run that ultimately won’t “count”. The only problem is he’ll likely get cheered over Punk, but then again that can make Punk a heel and that’s what he’s best at.

I beg to differ.

What Phil is best at is getting his ass beat as the worst shoot fighter of all time.

[#1-norm-fan]

My argument for Kingston is he’s red hot over and has stayed that way since going face, he’s a stellar promo, and because it’s interim and likely won’t be recognized, it’s fine IMO to give him a run that ultimately won’t “count”. The only problem is he’ll likely get cheered over Punk, but then again that can make Punk a heel and that’s what he’s best at.

That was my thought exactly. He’s the perfect guy to get an ultimately meaningless title run. He’s so good and people love him but he just doesn’t fit that true face of the company mould.

You could even have him win it briefly and lose it to someone like Jericho before Punk comes back so that a heel can get the heat from taking it from him and “You’re convict street trash that only tasted glory for a bit and it didn’t even count” can be a running cheap heat-getter for any other heels he might feud with in the future.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Adam Cole is still better than CM Punk.

They’re both detriments, at this point.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That was my thought exactly. He’s the perfect guy to get an ultimately meaningless title run. He’s so good and people love him but he just doesn’t fit that true face of the company mould.

You could even have him win it briefly and lose it to someone like Jericho before Punk comes back so that a heel can get the heat from taking it from him and “You’re convict street trash that only tasted glory for a bit and it didn’t even count” can be a running cheap heat-getter for any other heels he might feud with in the future.

Exactly. Eddie winning the title, getting all the glory and pomp and circumstance that doesn’t go to a guy like him not only gets him over even more, it gives a heel who’d run his chance at becoming a legitimate world champion mega heat. Dropping it Jericho after getting shafted in his first defense would be tremendous.

[xrodmuc316]

They’re both detriments, at this point.

Adam Cole is like a rock in your shoe when you are running.
CM Punk is like the entire track covered in feces that you keep slipping on and making you fall down over and over again.

They are not the same.

[drave]

and yet you saw that track covered in shit and still made the decision to run on it, then complain after :|

[xrodmuc316]

and yet you saw that track covered in shit and still made the decision to run on it, then complain after :|

No, I have been the one saying nobody should run on the track, because Credibility Missing Phil was going to shit everything up.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'd rather watch CM Phil over almost anybody in AEW. Definitely not in a shoot fight, though.

[Fignuts]

What I would book for an AEW vs NJPW card

IWGP title
Okada vs Danielson

AEW Interim title
Moxley vs Goto
(I think Goto's hard hitting style would mesh better with moxley than Tanahashi)

Bullet Club (KENTA, Jay White, Juice, Ishimori, ELP)
vs
Undisputed Elite (Young bucks, Cole, Fish, O'Reilly)

Mid Atlantic title
Miro vs Ishii

AEW Tag titles
Jurassic Express vs Taichi and Zack Sabre Jr.

House of Black vs House of Torture (Evil, SHO, Yujiro)

Never Openweight title
Hangman Page vs Tama Tonga

LIJ (Naito, Shingo, Hiromu) vs Death Triangle

United Empire (Ospreay, Aussie open, Cobb, O'Khan)
vs
FTR, Finlay, Tanahashi, Trent

New Japan Rumble- Winner gets shot at TNT title
Wardlow wins

Buy in
Hook and Danhausen vs Yano and Taguchi

[Mr. Nerfect]

What I would book for an AEW vs NJPW card

IWGP title
Okada vs Danielson

AEW Interim title
Moxley vs Goto
(I think Goto's hard hitting style would mesh better with moxley than Tanahashi)

Bullet Club (KENTA, Jay White, Juice, Ishimori, ELP)
vs
Undisputed Elite (Young bucks, Cole, Fish, O'Reilly)

Mid Atlantic title
Miro vs Ishii

AEW Tag titles
Jurassic Express vs Taichi and Zack Sabre Jr.

House of Black vs House of Torture (Evil, SHO, Yujiro)

Never Openweight title
Hangman Page vs Tama Tonga

LIJ (Naito, Shingo, Hiromu) vs Death Triangle

United Empire (Ospreay, Aussie open, Cobb, O'Khan)
vs
FTR, Finlay, Tanahashi, Trent

New Japan Rumble- Winner gets shot at TNT title
Wardlow wins

Buy in
Hook and Danhausen vs Yano and Taguchi

Very good card with what they’re going for. I would like to see them get out of other things they’ve already committed to, but I like what you’ve done here.

Danielson challenging Okada was a no-brainer. It was the match everyone wanted to see. It should have closed the show and it could have drawn real emotion out of people, because they are that good.

I’d prefer Mox vs. Goto to Mox vs. Tanahashi too. Tough chance we’re getting it though. But I think that would be a pretty cool spotlight to put on Goto, who seems to be missing those moments in New Japan. I wouldn’t object to Goto winning the thing.

I guess the Undisputed Elite guys have to make the card, right? I had Adam Cole going against Kota Ibushi and it leading to an Omega return. But that’s not happening, lol. I guess this contains the crap. Just please put the Bullet Club over. Jay White and Juice Robinson are actually good.

I guess you’re stuck doing this All-Atlantic title thing, so I guess you’ve got to do it. I see the finals as Miro vs. Malakai Black, but I guess if you’re finishing at Forbidden Door it makes sense to have a New Japan guy in there.

I guess having the AEW Tag Titles defended works. Jungle Boy & Luchasaurus don’t seem to really fit the New Japan side of things, but I guess they’re a “thing” in AEW? If you can call them that. ZSJ putting Jungle Boy in submissions could be fun.

I get what you’re going with in the House vs. House match. I’m just not a fan of either side. Makes sense though.

Page and Tonga…it seems right for Page, but not what they’d like for him. I’d have the guy sitting out and being out of mind for a while, but we know they’re going to jam him down our throats. This would have been a nice offering to New Japan though. You can have our former World Champion and put a mid-card belt of yours on him.

LIJ vs. Death Triangle makes sense.

I think the 10-man tag is inspired. I like the face side of things there.

Overall, I think you’ve meshed the two “universes” well and have got everyone “important” on the card.

[Fignuts]

I'm just happy you've finally come around on Juice Robinson.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm just happy you've finally come around on Juice Robinson.

Hmm? I don’t think I’ve ever been too down on Juice Robinson. I thought he had something even back in NXT. I wasn’t feeling the heel turn. But hey, if it’s going to be good for him, go for it. Done now anyway, lol.

Oh, the only notable omission I really see is Jericho. Maybe acts like Sammy Guevara too, to get some women on the show, even if it isn’t a wrestling role. I guess Jericho’s entertainer act doesn’t really suit New Japan, but you know he’s going to want to glom on. I think New Japan would really like Hager, and they use Garcia for Strong. Maybe another 10-man tag featuring some of the Strong guys? Fred Rosser, Fred Yehi, Clark Connors, Karl Fredericks and maybe someone like Satoshi Kojima? Just throwing some names out. I don’t know everyone in Strong’s current face/heel alignments.

[xrodmuc316]

CJ Parker, good times.

[Fignuts]

WHAT

You literally wouldnt stop calling him CJ Parker while talking shit about him

[xrodmuc316]

WHAT

You literally wouldnt stop calling him CJ Parker while talking shit about him

LOL, kind of like how I just called him CJ Parker :rofl:

[xrodmuc316]

Also, Soloman Crowe 4 life!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

CJ Parker is Pamela Anderson’s character on Baywatch. Has that been discussed before?

[Destor]

tell me more about this CJ Parker. use pictures if possible

[Frank Drebin]

Get a marriage sack

[Fignuts]

Was hoping for someone cool from AEW to be announced for the G-1, but its just Lance Archer.

I like Archer but we've seen him there already.

[XL]

WHAT

You literally wouldnt stop calling him CJ Parker while talking shit about him

I’ve done a shallow dive into this and can confirm that the most common phase Noid used in regard to Parker was “I don’t hate him” which is high praise indeed.

[slik]

wish they used karl frederickson from the la dojo

seems in-ring ready for a big push at any moment but njpw seems uninterested

[slik]

AEW seems a bit like the wheels on the bus are a tad wobbly
WWE seems mostly 'just there'
NJPW seems in a weird funk
Impact is Impact

Not the most exciting of times in wrestling

[XL]

Dude! WWE are giving you a <s>Undisputed WWE Universal Championship</s> <s>WWE Undisputed Universal Championship</s> WWE Universal Undisputed Championship match on free TV!!

[Lock Jaw]

WWE being "just there" is a huge compliment. Mission accomplished.

[xrodmuc316]

AEW is like a bus with wobbly wheels being driven by a socially awkward cokehead with a rich daddy and a bunch of people getting paid to be his friend and tell him he is cool.

[Jordan]

AEW seems a bit like the wheels on the bus are a tad wobbly
WWE seems mostly 'just there'
NJPW seems in a weird funk
Impact is Impact

Not the most exciting of times in wrestling

Yeah it's tough to stay interested

[#1-norm-fan]

There are gifts that pro wrestling has given us to be entertained by even as it dies a slow death. You just gotta know where to look. #Blessed

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve done a shallow dive into this and can confirm that the most common phase Noid used in regard to Parker was “I don’t hate him” which is high praise indeed.

Yeah, I really don’t remember saying anything too negative about him. I was expecting some ass-stain like #fan to go back and try to dig up one time I said “Eh, the guy’s not that good” and try to use it as some major GOTCHA. I’m not the dude’s biggest fan or anything. But I’ve never thought he’s a blight on New Japan or they shouldn’t use him or anything. I just wasn’t a big fan of the concept of turning him heel when they did. Meh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There appears to be fallout from the Thunder Rosa/Marina Shafir match from Dynamite:

A fan accused Rosa of sandbagging Shafir. It’s gained a bit of traction from fans and was liked by Britt Baker and Shafir herself. Some people pointed out Ivelisse said the same thing about Rosa, and Ivelisse has commented that the “Ivelisse was right” sentiments warm her soul. Other fans are lashing out at Shafir for saying she was obviously completely lost and she should be mad at Tony Khan for putting her in that position.

Just another straw closer to Tony Khan’s inevitable mental breakdown.

[drave]

Are you cheering someone's mental health decline?




For shame.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Are you cheering someone's mental health decline?




For shame.

Must…project…to defend…company mess!

[Vastardikai]

I'm a Rosa fan, but I saw the suplex. I mean, Shafir is bad. Just awful. But her husband is Roderick Strong, and the person who started this shit show was trained by... Roderick Strong. And AEW really wants to hire... Roderick Strong. And Britt Baker doesn't like people who are legit over on their own. And her boyfriend is best friends with... Roderick Strong.

[xrodmuc316]

Marina Shafir might not be the most polished, but any of the Cultist sticking up for Rosa by saying Shafir was lost is dumb.

Also Marina Shafir is yet another pro wrestler with a professional MMA Victory, something Fan's Hero CM Phillip never accomplished :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Hey Fanhttps://i.imgflip.com/6jfj95.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh, he’s doing that thing where he embarrasses himself in one thread and then randomly jumps to another thread out of nowhere with a nonsensical “gotcha!” to try to get that W he’s so desperate for. Who could’ve seen this coming?

You’re falling deeper into those keyboard warrior pussy stereotypes. But there’s still hope. Wanna talk about it?

[xrodmuc316]

Oh, he’s doing that thing where he embarrasses himself in one thread and then randomly jumps to another thread out of nowhere with a nonsensical “gotcha!” to try to get that W he’s so desperate for. Who could’ve seen this coming?

You’re falling deeper into those keyboard warrior pussy stereotypes. But there’s still hope. Wanna talk about it?

For someone always talking about "trying to get W's", it is comical your Hero Phillip could never get one :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Just another straw closer to Tony Khan’s inevitable mental breakdown.

Are you cheering someone's mental health decline?

For shame.

Must…project…to defend…company mess!

How would that even be projecting? Lol

Unless that last post wasn’t a sarcastic comment toward drave’s response and you were instead actually making the statement that you’re projecting your own mental decline onto Tony Khan? In which case, fair enough.

I’m honestly pretty sure that at some point in the last year you read an “Internet Arguing for Dummies”, found some words you like and now just use them as if the definition doesn’t matter.

[drave]

Must…project…to defend…company mess!




Lolwut?


Sorry, I am not an "AEW cultist", nor a "FEDBAD cultist" or whatever drivel comes outta circlejerk/wrestling armchair booker fantasies.



I enjoy some things from both companies, but not all, not even close.





Regardless of all that, cheering on someone's mental decline, regardless of your opinions on their promotion, is gross.

[Malfeitor]

Come on, guys. Just ignore the retards. It’s really that simple.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lolwut?


Sorry, I am not an "AEW cultist", nor a "FEDBAD cultist" or whatever drivel comes outta circlejerk/wrestling armchair booker fantasies.



I enjoy some things from both companies, but not all, not even close.





Regardless of all that, cheering on someone's mental decline, regardless of your opinions on their promotion, is gross.

You’re projecting that I’m cheering on anyone’s mental decline. You’re lying. Stop lying and I won’t confuse you for a liar. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s got its own thread, but Jeff Hardy has predictably gone and got himself a DUI under AEW auspices. Remember when Dave was half-way gloating about how Jeff was sober when WWE released him? Yeah, he went to AEW to get loaded.

Jeff needs fucking help. And no, drave — I’m not “cheering” it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

AEW seems a bit like the wheels on the bus are a tad wobbly
WWE seems mostly 'just there'
NJPW seems in a weird funk
Impact is Impact

Not the most exciting of times in wrestling

Pushing Kyle O’Reilly is a huge head scratcher. Fine tag wrestler and undercard guy but he shouldn’t be getting main event spots vying for a world title chance.

The battle royal also stunk. Very little star power and no stories told at all. If they want Wardlow to chase the TNT belt, have Paige and Sky eliminate him. Have them screw over Rusev so there’s some heat going into his match with Ethan Paige.

Jurassic Express should’ve been in there and had something with the Bucks and the Hardys to help get something going there before their ladder match.

Same goes for the Jericho feud with the BCC and Santana and Ortiz.

The beauty of a battle royal is you can advance stories and have guys lose the match without making them look bad. Tony missed the boat on that, in top of going with a completely wtf winner to wrestle against a guy who wasn’t top ranked to begin with.

I mentioned why I really liked Eddie as an interim champ. I also think Darby would’ve been perfect. For similar reasons as Eddie; super over, he’s perfect as interim champ since it won’t count but it gives him a rub, and though he’s not great on the live mic, his vignettes are usually pretty great and he’s just got a unique vibe to him.

There’s also a plethora of challengers for him and he’s the best underdog they have. He would’ve been perfect. Him beating Moxley in a roll up in the same way he beat Cody to win the TNT title is believable. Him going into All Out against Punk, presumably in Chicago, in a rematch from last year where, but now for the undisputed world title, is another great story. Plus we now it’s Moxley v Tana. They could’ve been a fun match with Darby.

Now we get what likely need a good but completely uninteresting match where Moxley , who’s better than being a placeholder champ, against Tana, who shouldn’t be AEW champ under any circumstances.

Huge missed opportunity and bumbling booking by Tony. Easily the least interested I’ve been in the company going into the ppv.

[xrodmuc316]

Lolwut?


Sorry, I am not an "AEW cultist", nor a "FEDBAD cultist" or whatever drivel comes outta circlejerk/wrestling armchair booker fantasies.



I enjoy some things from both companies, but not all, not even close.





Regardless of all that, cheering on someone's mental decline, regardless of your opinions on their promotion, is gross.

It is Dubbalos and Goofies FYI :cool:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Fightful now reporting All Out is going to stay in Chicago this year. God dammit. Punk v Darby II for the undisputed world title would’ve been a stellar main event.

[Crippla]

Come on, guys. Just ignore the retards. It’s really that simple.

No fun in that, Milfy.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wednesday Night <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoadRager?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RoadRager</a> Live in St. Louis<a href="https://twitter.com/TBSNetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TBSNetwork</a> @ 8pm ET/7pm CT<br><br>After weeks of fighting between <a href="https://twitter.com/ringofhonor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ringofhonor</a> World Tag Team Champions <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FTR?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FTR</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@njpwglobal</a>’s United Empire, 2 of the world’s best go 1-on-1!<a href="https://twitter.com/DaxFTR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DaxFTR</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/WillOspreay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WillOspreay</a> <br>LIVE tomorrow night on TBS! <a href="https://t.co/JHz8VdNz5p">pic.twitter.com/JHz8VdNz5p</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1536812472333647872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

Not a huge Ospreay fan. But FTR has a track record of having REALLY good wrestling matches with flippy guys so it’ll be interesting to see if Dax can do it on his own.

[Jordan]

Dax is one of the best in the world right now and Ospreay can bump and flip so it Will be Willy good.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Have full faith Dax will make it good

[#1-norm-fan]

Seriously, get the AEW Tag Titles on FTR already. I guess the plan is to have them in ROH if that project ever gets off the ground but fuck that. They’re in AEW now. Luchasaurus and Jungle Boy are tag champs in division where FTR exists. Fix that.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Agreed. It’s an easy story too. FTR challenges, Christian turns on jungle boy mid match, FTR wins belts and Christian and Jungle Boy start their feud. Easy peasy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wednesday Night <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoadRager?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RoadRager</a> Live in St. Louis<a href="https://twitter.com/TBSNetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TBSNetwork</a> @ 8pm ET/7pm CT<br><br>After weeks of fighting between <a href="https://twitter.com/ringofhonor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ringofhonor</a> World Tag Team Champions <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FTR?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FTR</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@njpwglobal</a>’s United Empire, 2 of the world’s best go 1-on-1!<a href="https://twitter.com/DaxFTR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DaxFTR</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/WillOspreay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WillOspreay</a> <br>LIVE tomorrow night on TBS! <a href="https://t.co/JHz8VdNz5p">pic.twitter.com/JHz8VdNz5p</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1536812472333647872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This match is actually likely to be awesome and will shine a really good light on Ospreay.

[xrodmuc316]

People were calling him Will Ass Spray, and now I can't unhear it :rofl:

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guest host <a href="https://twitter.com/sherrieshepherd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sherrieshepherd</a> ran into <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> wrestler <a href="https://twitter.com/The_MJF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@The_MJF</a> - but when he was less than gracious to her and her son - he almost caught the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MadMamaSmackdown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MadMamaSmackdown</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HotTopics?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HotTopics</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sherrishowtv?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sherrishowtv</a> <a href="https://t.co/u3Mb9miTNx">pic.twitter.com/u3Mb9miTNx</a></p>&mdash; Wendy Williams (@WendyWilliams) <a href="https://twitter.com/WendyWilliams/status/1537163036204576768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

LMAO oh MJF is a legend.

[slik]

Willow Nightingale has good entrance music on Rampage

[slik]

Leon Ruffin looked hilarious standing next to BEAR COUNTRY

[slik]

Willow Nightingale has good entrance music on Rampage

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[slik]

I didn't realize Forbidden Door was next weekend

[Frank Drebin]

Neither did AEW based on the card im seeing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’m sure the matches will deliver but this ppv looks like shit. It’ll prob be a flop which will either lead Tony to doing a better job on building it next year or dropping it all together.

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember when Keith Lee was this "future star" after he threw that midget across the ring.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I remember being excited for him until they moved him into a make shift tag team

[Crippla]

Def a downgrade from the Double or Nothing card

[Mr. Nerfect]

Remember when Keith Lee was this "future star" after he threw that midget across the ring.

It’s almost like the guy sucked or something. You can say this about so many guys too. Didn’t Brian Cage headline one of their PPVs? Just a mess.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

If Johnny Gargano can’t turn around the ratings, I don’t know who can.

[Jordan]

Danielson to appear on Dynamite to discuss his future at Forbidden Door and Blood 'n Guts. Doesn't sound good!

[Mr. Nerfect]

TK desperate for those ratings. It’s a shame he’s diminished Bryan.

[Jordan]

Yeah the BCC has done no favors for Danielson.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He probably doesn’t want focus himself, but you’ve got to step in as booker then. A disappointing Bryan is more damaging than helpful. It’s been a great example of how AEW can take someone you care about and make them irrelevant really fast.

[Jordan]

This is the card for Forbidden Door as of now.


Interim AEW World Championship match: Jon Moxley vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
AEW Women's World Champion Thunder Rosa defends against Toni Storm
IWGP United States Heavyweight Champion Will Ospreay defends against Orange Cassidy
Four-way match to crown the inaugural AEW All-Atlantic Champion: Miro vs. PAC vs. Tomohiro Ishii vs. either Malakai Black or Penta Oscuro
Winner-take-all match for the ROH Tag Team titles and IWGP Tag Team titles: FTR vs. The Great-O-Khan & Jeff Cobb vs. Roppongi Vice
Chris Jericho, Minoru Suzuki & Sammy Guevara vs. Eddie Kingston, Wheeler Yuta & Shota Umino


Likely to add Jay White vs Hangman vs Cole in a three way or possibly Jay White vs Jonathan Gresham for the IWGP from what I've read.

With Danielson likely calling out, I am really at a loss for what could be added to this show of interest.

[Jordan]

Lee Johnson also out with injury!

[xrodmuc316]

This is the card for Forbidden Door as of now.


Interim AEW World Championship match: Jon Moxley vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
AEW Women's World Champion Thunder Rosa defends against Toni Storm
IWGP United States Heavyweight Champion Will Ospreay defends against Orange Cassidy
Four-way match to crown the inaugural AEW All-Atlantic Champion: Miro vs. PAC vs. Tomohiro Ishii vs. either Malakai Black or Penta Oscuro
Winner-take-all match for the ROH Tag Team titles and IWGP Tag Team titles: FTR vs. The Great-O-Khan & Jeff Cobb vs. Roppongi Vice
Chris Jericho, Minoru Suzuki & Sammy Guevara vs. Eddie Kingston, Wheeler Yuta & Shota Umino


Likely to add Jay White vs Hangman vs Cole in a three way or possibly Jay White vs Jonathan Gresham for the IWGP from what I've read.

With Danielson likely calling out, I am really at a loss for what could be added to this show of interest.

I would enjoy a rematch of CM Phil and Mickey Gall, for obvious reasons :rofl:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not interested in Gresham on the on the ppv at all.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m embarrassed <a href="https://t.co/HRwxxMKFt8">pic.twitter.com/HRwxxMKFt8</a></p>&mdash; Cherilyn (@cherdelaware) <a href="https://twitter.com/cherdelaware/status/1539317927224090625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Vastardikai]

I can't wait to see this match between Christian and (insert Jack's handle here).

[Sepholio]

At least (insert Jack's handle here) still has Luchasaurus in his corner.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy fuck that Forbidden Door card looks absolutely disgusting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

All Elite and no play makes (insert Jack’s handle here)

[Corporate CockSnogger]

At least (insert Jack's handle here) still has Luchasaurus in his corner.

I’ll predict that Luchasaurus will likely turn too in a few weeks time or maybe at the next PPV and stick around as Christian’s muscle. Seems to be the natural progression of the story, but not necessarily a good outcome for Luchasaurus since I don’t know how much he offers when away from (insert Jack’s handle here). I really like him as the face who comes in on the hot tag to clean house. That’s a good spot for him, and he’s come on leaps and bounds since Lucha Underground.

I think he turns, loses the mask and gets a name change as Christian’s muscle. Adds an extra obstacle for Jungle Boy to overcome in the feud and helps extend it, then probably just ends up on Dark.

[XL]

Yeah I could see him losing the mask.

Howabout…he ditches the mask becoming Judas Devlin again (which works well with stabbing (insert Jack’s handle here) in the back. He can wear leather and lots of chains. Eventually you have him sort of play up a split personality thing where you’re never sure if you’re going to get his “Judas” side or how Devlin/Devil side. This leads to a group forming with Christian at the helm, Judas as his large ally, then add a sort of gothy type female to the group, maybe Toni Storm or sign Paige. Name them “Payback” or “<s>WrestleMania</s> Backlash”. Then try to add “spooky bollocks” to the gimmick that Christian (rightly) isn’t down for and have disposed by a dude he pinned on PPV the night before.

Great use of multiple talents and better yet original.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Luchasaurus losing his man and gimmick seems like a death wish for him, tbh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Luchasaurus doesn’t inspire me either way. He’s just not very good. Him being with Christian is going to drawn subconscious comparisons to Tomko, and I don’t think Luchasaurus can even live up to that.

[Fignuts]

Mask or not hes still sloppy as fuck. If he stopped trying to wrestle like a cruiserweight so much maybe he'd be better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mask or not hes still sloppy as fuck. If he stopped trying to wrestle like a cruiserweight so much maybe he'd be better.

That could change my perception of him. But it’s be so jarring. They’ve kind of booked themselves into a corner with him. I think the best thing with him in AEW would be to stick him with a more experienced guy in a team to incubate him for a while. Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian, that sort of thing.

ROH isn’t a thing, but you could send him there and hope for the best.

[XL]

Luchasaurus losing his man and gimmick seems like a death wish for him, tbh.

There’s a very low ceiling on the gimmick as is. AEW have got a million singles championships and I can’t imagine him carrying any of them.

[XL]

That said, it’s not exactly holding him back from a main event run.

[XL]

Being an updated Tomko is probably about right.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There’s a very low ceiling on the gimmick as is. AEW have got a million singles championships and I can’t imagine him carrying any of them.

Unfortunately, I can. It’s not desirable, but I can see it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The more I think about it, the more I can see them doing a completely new thing with him. A total repackaging that we are just supposed to “get.” Maybe leading The Butcher & The Blade or something like that? Dr. Lou Chasorous or something.

[screech]

Being an updated Tomko is probably about right.

Maybe he'll give Christian a beat

[XL]

No.

[Sepholio]

What's Luchadactyl doing in the IMPACT ZONE!?

[Sepholio]

There’s a very low ceiling on the gimmick as is. AEW have got a million singles championships and I can’t imagine him carrying any of them.

That said, it’s not exactly holding him back from a main event run.

I could see him having a throwaway transitional run with one of the secondary titles. But if they really wanna see how he does in singles at the higher end of a card I think they should toss him over to the ROH reboot and give him a makeover and a push there and see how it goes.

[drave]

needs more uWu senpai!

[XL]

undisputed WWE universal senpai

[drave]

I wish Cena would do one of his "Doctor of Thuganomics" freestyles and incorporate the whole uWu thing, but he can't. But it'd be funny.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I could see him having a throwaway transitional run with one of the secondary titles. But if they really wanna see how he does in singles at the higher end of a card I think they should toss him over to the ROH reboot and give him a makeover and a push there and see how it goes.

They’ve got a ton of guys they could move to ROH full time whenever they get that off the ground.

I still think they should use it as a minor league feeder for themselves.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bobby Fish and Kyle O’ Reilly are both out with injuries. Fish’s is an ankle and he shouldn’t be out long. O’Reilly’s is said to be worse, but the degree to which is undetermined.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomohiro Ishii was injured in his AEW <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllAtlantic?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllAtlantic</a> Title NJPW Eliminator Tournament match with <a href="https://twitter.com/ClarkConnors?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ClarkConnors</a>. With Ishii not medically cleared, he forfeits &amp; Connors will now go to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForbiddenDoor?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ForbiddenDoor</a> on Sunday to face <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Miro?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Miro</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAC</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/malakaiblxck?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@malakaiblxck</a> to crown the 1st All-Atlantic Champion <a href="https://t.co/IhI9inTnOv">pic.twitter.com/IhI9inTnOv</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1540107437411373061?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

Probably gonna be better now. Ishii has the mobility of a Hasbro WWF Action Figure.

[#1-norm-fan]

PPV was missing a Clark Connors match.

[xrodmuc316]

Bros, he is so desperate he is thanking random fans individually...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, that was super chill of you to do that, and I appreciate it very much.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForbiddenDoor?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ForbiddenDoor</a> <a href="https://t.co/8cKXIsYBuC">https://t.co/8cKXIsYBuC</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1540069051715780608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guess with such a small audience it is possible :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[XL]

I’m guessing we’re just using “chill” in place of “cool” now? Definitely not chill to force a restaurant to change the channel for you.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m guessing we’re just using “chill” in place of “cool” now? Definitely not chill to force a restaurant to change the channel for you.

Yeah, that was my first thought too, lol.

[Jordan]

That was super chill of that guy you guys. Come on.

[drave]

y'all need more chill up in this bitch,,,,

[Lock Jaw]

It's chill that you're chill

[drave]

It's chill that you're chill




Chill post to the chillest guy I know





:cool:

[Destor]

i feel like having employees turn wrestling on for you is the opposite of chill

[drave]

It was Glacier's Greatest Gaffes tho....








(showing myself out now)

[Crippla]

It would be one thing if it was a local sports bar or something but in a restaurant is just ridiculous...I hope they overcompensated their waiter or waitress with an extra healthy tip.

[xrodmuc316]

Poor normal people being forced to watch AEW on their nice night out

https://i.imgflip.com/6kvc95.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

If you want to watch wrestling, stay home. Don’t go out and inflict that shit on others.

[Jordan]

https://www.f4wonline.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTkwNDkwNzYzMTc0MzU2MjE3/fwo_ddyxgaegopn.webp

[Lock Jaw]

Lol that facial expression

[Jordan]

AEW is now set on a new course and it's pretty intriguing for the unhappy fan. We don't know how long Punk is out so for now Mox is the champ. He's probably going to be featured more than Hangman was as champ because he's a bigger deal and now his feud with BCC and JAS takes even more priority because the champion is involved.

So what happens next, what is the course for the rest of the summer? If Punk is unable to make All Out who faces Mox for the Interim Championship? You'd think Danielson will be back by that point and we also have Claudio, but those three are apart of BCC. Will there be a split so soon?

I could see Mox vs Jericho being a great summer feud and at some point something happens with Danielson or Claudio that causes a rift and a big challenge for Mox's interim belt against one of his stable mates.

Jericho and Mox could get built up for All Out as the main event and it would probably deliver. It's a great feud that could definitely continue with the right story, and you could say that if AEW is struggling right now it could be smart to go back to something that really worked which was Jericho as champion. Mox as well really worked too and they've gone back to that but in my opinion Jericho would be a good choice if they wanted to have the Interim belt change hands. Jericho's reign was the best think in AEW history for my money.

[xrodmuc316]

AEW is now set on a new course and it's pretty intriguing for the unhappy fan. We don't know how long Punk is out so for now Mox is the champ. He's probably going to be featured more than Hangman was as champ because he's a bigger deal and now his feud with BCC and JAS takes even more priority because the champion is involved.

So what happens next, what is the course for the rest of the summer? If Punk is unable to make All Out who faces Mox for the Interim Championship? You'd think Danielson will be back by that point and we also have Claudio, but those three are apart of BCC. Will there be a split so soon?

I could see Mox vs Jericho being a great summer feud and at some point something happens with Danielson or Claudio that causes a rift and a big challenge for Mox's interim belt against one of his stable mates.

Jericho and Mox could get built up for All Out as the main event and it would probably deliver. It's a great feud that could definitely continue with the right story, and you could say that if AEW is struggling right now it could be smart to go back to something that really worked which was Jericho as champion. Mox as well really worked too and they've gone back to that but in my opinion Jericho would be a good choice if they wanted to have the Interim belt change hands. Jericho's reign was the best think in AEW history for my money.

Hopefully Phil is out at least another 2 to 3 years.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m starting to cool on FTR. It’s not their fault, necessarily. But this is the side effect of being hitched to the niche.

[drave]

:|

Their in-ring work is as great as ever. Don't be absurd.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It isn’t about in-ring work. It’s about significance.

[xrodmuc316]

:|

Their in-ring work is as great as ever. Don't be absurd.

Even if they were the best in ring work team of all time, how many "FEDBAD" gimmicks are we supposed to care about/be invested in? Can you think of any other profession where your main contribution is being bitter and complaining about your former employer constantly, for YEARS on end?

Find me a brain surgeon that has to tell every patient he is going to operate on that "I will take care of you, I used to work at HOSPITALBAD, and boy did that suck, but now look at me".

Now add 25 other brain surgeons into that same room saying the exact same thing, will you really care about any of them?

[Sepholio]

I must say I'm excited to see what Claudio does in AEW. He's always been great in the ring but the thing that held him back is he doesn't have the most charisma and was not a very good promo. Now he has Regal to talk for him which is possibly going to negate his need to get himself over on the mic. There is potential for him to have the best run of his career here but they are going to need to run with it and not drop the ball.

I dunno if this is the right way to put it, but out of all the guys they have brought over from WWE, this is the one that I think could make for the best champion out of the lot for AEW. Claudio is a guy it seems like everyone has respected forever. He's a physical specimen who is built more like a model almost. His ringwork has been top tier FOREVER. Everyone seems to think he should have been higher on the card in WWE, and they aren't wrong. So here's a guy everyone has basically thought of as championship material for a while...and yet he's never gotten that opportunity. Give it to him now. Push hard. Him as champ fulfills all the things people have believed about him and it's something we haven't seen before. It's different, it's new. It's what people have wanted.

And damnit Claudio straight deserves a run at the top of the pile. He's earned it.

[#1-norm-fan]

If a brain surgeon were pretending to perform brain surgery on piñatas while a dwarf farts in their face for the personal entertainment of an eccentric billionaire 3 years ago and now he’s actually doing what he wants to do, I don’t think it would be weird for him to tweet “3 years ago I was performing brain surgery on piñatas while a dwarf farted in my face. Now I’m performing ACTUAL brain surgery. Thanks to everyone who believed in me.”

I DO think it would be weird and a sign of awkward insecurity for people to shit on him for daring to mention the shitty piñata surgery/dwarf fart era of his life in a post about how far he’s come.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really want to care about Claudio and FTR. I really, really want to. It’s just…impossible for me when I know they’re going to be booked shit. I’d love to have faith that they’re going to overcome that shit, but I don’t think anyone can override the context of this company being a mess.

[xrodmuc316]

If a brain surgeon were pretending to perform brain surgery on piñatas while a dwarf farts in their face for the personal entertainment of an eccentric billionaire 3 years ago and now he’s actually doing what he wants to do, I don’t think it would be weird for him to tweet “3 years ago I was performing brain surgery on piñatas while a dwarf farted in my face. Now I’m performing ACTUAL brain surgery. Thanks to everyone who believed in me.”

I DO think it would be weird and a sign of awkward insecurity for people to shit on him for daring to mention the shitty piñata surgery/dwarf fart era of his life in a post about how far he’s come.

But it was not just one tweet three years later, by just one guy in a company of people who never FEDBAD. That is the point, with everybody there FEDBADing constantly, why should we care about the latest FEDBAD from a repeated FEDBADer? What makes this FEDBAD more important than all the other FEDBADs?

And it is not a shot just at FTR or any one specific person, it is just all they talk about for years and years after the fact.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They went from shaving backs to licking boots. That’s the frustration people are feeling. It’s the need for wrestlers to try and use WWE comparatively as this catch-all “our circumstances might be bad, but at least…”

No. Be a grown-up and own your decisions.

It’s a fallacy when people use something horrific to excuse something terrible they’re doing. That’s why “Fedbad” gets called out. The shit you’re doing is usually for a promotion that is not significantly better enough to justify the hipster bullshit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW needs to concern itself with being good, not with being “not WWE,” because they’re not WWE in some ways that aren’t desirable.

[Mr. Nerfect]

For example: AEW is still yet to book ANYONE to their best. Find anyone who has wrestled anywhere else of prominence and you’ll also see brighter points of their career. For FTR, it was NXT. Miro had those excellent stretches as Rusev. Moxley still dines out in being the third guy in The Shield. Cesaro fans are still going to need to go back to 2014 Cesaro.

[Jordan]

Jericho's top AEW stuff is arguably the best work of his career. In particular his feud with Cody. Mox's AEW run has been fantastic and his title reign surpassed anything he ever did in WWE. Sting has been used brilliantly in AEW while in WWE he was booked and marketed poorly. Jake Hager was forced to wrestle every week in WWE while in AEW he only wrestles once or twice a year. Brodie Lee was treated like a top guy in AEW for his run and definitely would have been AEW champion at some point and in WWE he was stuck in tag programs and forgotten.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jericho's top AEW stuff is arguably the best work of his career. In particular his feud with Cody. Mox's AEW run has been fantastic and his title reign surpassed anything he ever did in WWE. Sting has been used brilliantly in AEW while in WWE he was booked and marketed poorly. Jake Hager was forced to wrestle every week in WWE while in AEW he only wrestles once or twice a year. Brodie Lee was treated like a top guy in AEW for his run and definitely would have been AEW champion at some point and in WWE he was stuck in tag programs and forgotten.

Jericho’s best work was his 2008 heel run. If you’re partial to 1998 WCW Jericho or WWF Attitude Jericho, I get it, but I don’t see how his AEW work compares to any of that. Mox’s best work was in The Shield. Sting has not been used better in AEW than he was in WCW, or arguably even TNA. Jack Swagger sucked, but so does Jake Hager. Brodie Lee’s best work was Wyatt Family Luke Harper. It’s why everyone thought he was underrated in the first place.

[slik]

AEW headed to Comic Con for the first time via WBDiscovery synergy


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We're heading back to Southern California... for <a href="https://twitter.com/Comic_Con?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Comic_Con</a>‼️<br><br>Join <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMPunk</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/JadeCargill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JadeCargill</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OrangeCassidy</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DarbyAllin</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/bryandanielson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BryanDanielson</a> for the AEW: Heroes &amp; Villains panel on July 23rd <a href="https://t.co/qz6rhO8WvI">pic.twitter.com/qz6rhO8WvI</a></p>&mdash; AEW on TV (@AEWonTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1541496922548084737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Maluco]

Jericho's top AEW stuff is arguably the best work of his career. In particular his feud with Cody. Mox's AEW run has been fantastic and his title reign surpassed anything he ever did in WWE. Sting has been used brilliantly in AEW while in WWE he was booked and marketed poorly. Jake Hager was forced to wrestle every week in WWE while in AEW he only wrestles once or twice a year. Brodie Lee was treated like a top guy in AEW for his run and definitely would have been AEW champion at some point and in WWE he was stuck in tag programs and forgotten.

Jericho’s best work was in AEW!? Jordan, my man, I wish I was half as blindingly positive about anything as you are about AEW, because that’s another level altogether!

[Destor]

he said arguably. id love to hear the argument.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Jordan]

Jericho’s best work was in AEW!? Jordan, my man, I wish I was half as blindingly positive about anything as you are about AEW, because that’s another level altogether!

I am certainly not blindly positive about AEW. I haven't watched Rampage in over a month, sometimes I can barely make it through one of the badly booked Dynamite episodes. Still though, AEW PPV's are some of the best of all time, even when the builds are bad or the explosions come off like wet farts.

Jericho's initial run as the top guy in AEW was certainly better than anything he'd done in years in WWE. Not to say his late WWE stuff with the list was bad, but he had been devalued in WWE near the end. AEW repackaged him and treated him like an icon. His work as the first champion was definitely his best championship run in his career.

That's why I consider his AEW run to be some of the best stuff. The feud with The Inner Circle and Cody was fucking incredible. He also had some great TV stuff with Scorpio Sky and Darby. Then Mox came in and turned it up a notch taking the belt and Jericho ended up doing Stadium Stampede with The Elite. Which at the time was one of the most fun things you could've asked for considering the pandemic and the limitations.

[#1-norm-fan]

Side note: Holy shit, did AEW figure out the best way to use Sting after the train wreck that was his WWE run.

[Crippla]

That was one of WWE's biggest fuck ups in recent money in relation to a talent.

[Crippla]

I still love Jericho and AEW has definitely used him well bringing him in as being the big name attraction for the company but as far as him "doing his best work"...not even close to when he was in his prime

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hated the list stuff. Even so, I can MAYBE give the first year of Jericho a nod over that, but they’ve got to be pretty close. But that’s got nothing on other stretches of Jericho’s career.

[Jordan]

I said what I said! I stand by my opinion.

[Jordan]

You guys aren't even real Jerichoholics. Jericho is a fine wine that gets better with age and only true Jericholics recognize the superiority of his arch! He's a Wizard!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m not, it’s true. I don’t buy in the myth of him reinventing himself. I think he’s been covering up a bald spot there for about a decade now.

[Jordan]

All of the biggest stars in pro wrestling have bald spots! Hogan, Savage, Sting, Flair, Cena, Jericho, bald? Just put him on the list of GOATS where he belongs with all the other balding superstars!

[Jordan]

Not to mention Austin and Foley! Foley's were self imposed but still!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wasn’t making fun of Jericho’s literally bald spot in this case.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Side note: Holy shit, did AEW figure out the best way to use Sting after the train wreck that was his WWE run.

Sting has been a blast in AEW. No selling the table against 2.0 might still be favorite moment of his so far.

[#1-norm-fan]

The words “AEW is currently dead” or “AEW will die by this specific date” were never spoken by Noid personally in that order. Therefore any implication that he implied it is a blatant lie.

Noid has no tolerance for people using blatant lies to push a narrative.

But also:


Cody vs. MJF. If I recall, this was badly explained on TV. The Cody/Max relationship was brought up a couple of times, then MJF just randomly turned heel on Cody and they never touched again.

AEW’s ability to tell stories is one of their more overrated “qualities.” A lot of the time nothing happens, things are dropped or the context of a story is just weak.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Randomly turned on Lmaooooo after teasing it for months and mjf costing him the title

[drave]

Is that what that was about? was wondering why I was more of a lying liar than usual.


Thanks Your Kinglishipness

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kenny Omega’s thinking about calling it quits. No surprise there.

[xrodmuc316]

Kenny Omega’s thinking about calling it quits. No surprise there.

No Kenny wait, I have an idea...

https://i.imgflip.com/6lbgba.jpg

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Have you considered writing him a letter about how much you’re into him

I think most of us here would be supportive

[Destor]

Kenny Omega’s thinking about calling it quits. No surprise there.
thats pretty damn shocking. he hasnt made retire on a beach money

[weather vane]

Well it’s just false.