All Elite Wrestling

[xrodmuc316]

There's also no rule or law that prohibits a registered agent from using an alias. It's not necessarily best practice or something I'd recommend but there's nothing unethical, illegal, or wrong in doing so.

You missed the point. This is solely a fragile ego person working for a fragile ego boss targeting videos that hurt their feelings under the guise of copyright infringement, but not doing so under their actual names to avoid any backlash that would in turn hurt their fragile egos.

It also goes against the public claims made by that very company when they virtue signaled how great they are by stating they would not do this very thing.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210617/317f48c16bb7c3445d7cc5d36d48c1a7.jpg

I have zero issue with a company wanting to protect their property, but not when the sole purpose is to quelch criticism.

[xrodmuc316]

Also, Tony never said he wouldn't protect AEW's IP, he said AEW wouldn't take ownership or control of their talent's IP as company property. In other words, the company IP will be (videos, logos, original music, etc.) protected, but AEW wouldn't take IP rights to their talent's names, ring gear, or prevent talent from doing outside deals involving their name, image, and likeness .

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/05/30/aew-will-not-go-after-fans-who-pull-clips-for-social-media/

[Jordan]

Why are you fags always talking about the dumbest shit? Who cares about this crap?

[BigCrippyZ]

:lol: Something from 3+ years ago that only exclusively mentions GIFs but not videos or anything else. Never mind that Matt Jackson may or may not have had the authority as an agent (an agent of the company, not a match making agent, just to be clear) of AEW to make that claim at the time.

Nevermind that all company's selectively enforce their IP, because that's simply a right of ownership. Depending on if and how much it helps or hurts a company to market/promote their company/product, that's a factor in determining how likely they are to enforce their IP rights.

[xrodmuc316]

Why are you fags always talking about the dumbest shit? Who cares about this crap?

I can't WAIT for Jericho (who never has never been recorded using slurs) calls you out for that homophobic term!

[drave]

Why are you fags always talking about the dumbest shit? Who cares about this crap?


#Wrestling POTY

[#1-norm-fan]

You think this is a dumb war? Just wait until a retired wrestler wrestles a few matches on the undercard with a name and costume he used in a popular 90’s movie for shits and giggles.

Shit shall hit the fan!

[Mr. Nerfect]

:lol: Something from 3+ years ago that only exclusively mentions GIFs but not videos or anything else. Never mind that Matt Jackson may or may not have had the authority as an agent (an agent of the company, not a match making agent, just to be clear) of AEW to make that claim at the time.

Nevermind that all company's selectively enforce their IP, because that's simply a right of ownership. Depending on if and how much it helps or hurts a company to market/promote their company/product, that's a factor in determining how likely they are to enforce their IP rights.

Slurp, slurp.

[drave]

Durp, durp.

[BigCrippyZ]

I just love the grasping at straws and moving the goal posts to make this bullshit non-story into something that some how makes AEW look bad, even if it is hilariously predictably pathetic.

"Oh look! They're doing something legally wrong, someone online who's not a lawyer said so!"

Nope.

"Yeah, but they made up a person to do something, so clearly something bad must have happened!"

Nope. They might be using an alias, but that by itself is not an indication of anything and not a legal issue in this situation.

"Well yeah, but they said they'd never do what they're now doing! See, they're just as bad as WWE!"

One person, who's not ultimately in charge, claimed over 3 years ago that if FANS (not critics) post one specific type of media that's not even mentioned in this "story" infringement claims won't be pursued by AEW, and he may or may not have even had the authority to actually bind AEW to that claim.

"Yeah, but they're preventing people from criticizing them!"

Nah, you're still free to criticize them all you want. I mean this thread here alone is evidence of that. You just can't violate their IP rights in doing so and they don't like you're using their IP. Also, they're just like almost every company on the planet that does this, because they have the right to selectively enforce their IP rights how they see fit.

I'll give xrod credit though, he's got more balls than Noid at least. The only thing I respect less than a moron, is a moron who's also a coward.

[#1-norm-fan]

I couldn’t even get through the YouTube clip of MMM. Horrible.

Maximum Male Models are the best thing in wrestling

Real anticipation.

This transparent suck up motherfucker’s seriously trying to get “slurp, slurp” over as his catchphrase. The lack of self-awareness. Goddamn.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just love the grasping at straws and moving the goal posts to make this bullshit non-story into something that some how makes AEW look bad, even if it is hilariously predictably pathetic.

"Oh look! They're doing something legally wrong, someone online who's not a lawyer said so!"

Nope.

"Yeah, but they made up a person to do something, so clearly something bad must have happened!"

Nope. They might be using an alias, but that by itself is not an indication of anything and not a legal issue in this situation.

"Well yeah, but they said they'd never do what they're now doing! See, they're just as bad as WWE!"

One person, who's not ultimately in charge, claimed over 3 years ago that if FANS (not critics) post one specific type of media that's not even mentioned in this "story" infringement claims won't be pursued by AEW, and he may or may not have even had the authority to actually bind AEW to that claim.

"Yeah, but they're preventing people from criticizing them!"

Nah, you're still free to criticize them all you want. I mean this thread here alone is evidence of that. You just can't violate their IP rights in doing so and they don't like you're using their IP. Also, they're just like almost every company on the planet that does this, because they have the right to selectively enforce their IP rights how they see fit.

I'll give xrod credit though, he's got more balls than Noid at least. The only thing I respect less than a moron, is a moron who's also a coward.

You’re not a lawyer. Stop lying to people to try and big-note yourself for validation. :lol:

I love the way that you, “as a lawyer,” reference the timing of the article like it has anything to do with the subject at hand. Nor is the legality for that matter. xrod is just pointing out that they’re wormy assholes. Like you. No wonder you take that boot in so far.

You want cowards? Why don’t you tell people the truth about this company being a giant nothing taco? And stop fucking trying to change the subject to get them off the line.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Durp, durp.

Clever response. You used a variant of “derp” in lieu of making an actual point. drave craving that boot.

[drave]

I just wanted to write a mad rhyme, yo.


I think I did alright.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just wanted to write a mad rhyme, yo.


I think I did alright.

You’ve done way better. Bring your a-game into this thread, dr.

[#1-norm-fan]

The guy who randomly uses “slurp, slurp” to deflect from the shit-ton of evidence of him sucking off anyone who doesn’t call him out on his bullshit would like you to respond with something more substantial than just rhyming his “slurp, slurp”.

[#1-norm-fan]

Bring your a-game, drave.

And by “a-game” he means “Accept my bullshit and I will tongue your butthole-game”

[drave]

I'm just happy that he called me Dr.


All those years of thuganomics paid off with a sick rhyme and forum mic drop.


Word Lyfe

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh, you’re gonna catch hell for telling people you’re a student of thuganomics. I know from experience. The Vincel slurpderps don’t like that for some reason.

[Fignuts]

I can't WAIT for Jericho (who never has never been recorded using slurs) calls you out for that homophobic term!

He wasn't talking about gay people. He was talking about fags.

Figure it out, fuck.

[drave]

Oh, you’re gonna catch hell for telling people you’re a student of thuganomics. I know from experience. The Vincel slurpderps don’t like that for some reason.




Doctor* :cool:

[#1-norm-fan]

*were a student.

My apologies.

[Fignuts]

Are these videos that were taken down literally just dudes talking over the footage for the whole thing? Cause then it's understandable.

But if its a well put together video that uses clips here and there to enhance the presentation, then they're being petty. And yeah, a lot of companies request dmca strikes for that.

A lot of greedy, petty, dickhead companies.

[Sepholio]

WORD LIFE!

This is basic dravenomics.

[xrodmuc316]

He wasn't talking about gay people. He was talking about fags.

Figure it out, fuck.

Says the guy with "Nuts" in his username to the guy with "Rod" in his. :shifty:

[Sepholio]

It appears that Fuego Del Sol is done with aew.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm just happy that he called me Dr.


All those years of thuganomics paid off with a sick rhyme and forum mic drop.


Word Lyfe

Nah, it’s just short for drave. You’re at best a fake lawyer of thuganomics. BigDrippyZ.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It appears that Fuego Del Sol is done with aew.

But he was such a hot signing.

[#1-norm-fan]

So much time to type derpslurp bullshit but finishing the last 3 letters of “drave” is too much.

[Fignuts]

It appears that Fuego Del Sol is done with aew.

Good.

[Frank Drebin]

Serpentico > Fuego Del Sol

[Tom Guycott]

Boy, wait til you see her in person. She has no business being in that ring. Probably the worst I have ever seen, male or female. It was EMBARASSING.

Big Daddy Shirley Crabtree looks like someone who belongs on the Mount Rushmore of wrestling if you compared him to Marina. She's that bad.

I have said it before, but HOW she can be married to Roddy Strong, trained with top athletes like Ronda and Shayna, and with an MMA background, it is astounding that she can be as bad as she is.

"To be fair" is becoming my "... and I quote:"

As bad as she is - and she is bad - at the very least, she isn't Eva Marie. The criticisms of Marina are all valid, but she isn't a hair's breadth from killing her opponent/herself/both on a weekly basis on the misguided notion that she's going to be the top female in the company because she's supposedly pretty.

[Tom Guycott]

It appears that Fuego Del Sol is done with aew.

You know, by the time that video game comes out, none of the roster will exist anymore save for the Bucks.

[Sepholio]

LOL, no Tom. Just no.

I'd take an entire roster of Eva Maries over Marina. Eva is a MILLION times better than her. It's not even close.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kenny Omega and the AEW video game is like Homer Simpson designing a car for his brother.

[drave]

Nah, it’s just short for drave. You’re at best a fake lawyer of thuganomics. BigDrippyZ.




No takesies backsies!!!!




Besides, I have my degree to prove it, so It's all good.

[weather vane]

Kenny Omega returning soon. Mint.

[Evil Vito]

Hell yeah.

[ClockShot]

About time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ll believe it when I see it. The Bucks paid to have some video of theirs boosted on YouTube where the heading is “We’ve got nothing left.” That would segue into Omega returning and kissing his buddies all better in another masterclass of storytelling. But I’m still suspicious.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I hope he punts Adam Cole back to ROH

[DaveWadding]

Kenny Ohmehga

[xrodmuc316]

Hoping Punk follows Kenny's example and stays away for another 9 months or so at least.

[xrodmuc316]

LOL this place has regressed so much since last year...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They're out for blood… and we’re not talking about the sharks<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FyterFest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FyterFest</a> continues tonight at 8/7c on TBS <a href="https://t.co/m5Fqi2qA2y">pic.twitter.com/m5Fqi2qA2y</a></p>&mdash; AEW on TV (@AEWonTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1549763679230382084?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

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[Jordan]

I wonder if they will have a SHARK WEEK match where there is BARBED WIRE EVERYWHERE and to win you can MURDER YOUR OPPONENT by tossing him into SHARK INFESTED WATERS. The sharks will certainly be CHOMPING AT THE BIT because of the bloody waters due to the BARBED WIRE. In the upcoming AEW game.

[drave]

just have sharkboy make an appearance. can't go wrong.

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL this place has regressed so much since last year...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They're out for blood… and we’re not talking about the sharks<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FyterFest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FyterFest</a> continues tonight at 8/7c on TBS <a href="https://t.co/m5Fqi2qA2y">pic.twitter.com/m5Fqi2qA2y</a></p>&mdash; AEW on TV (@AEWonTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTV/status/1549763679230382084?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wtf is that?

[Mr. Nerfect]

just have sharkboy make an appearance. can't go wrong.

You might as well have him go 15 minutes with Wardlow.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pretty sure they will reach out to Shark Boy. I’m going to predict a Rampage match against…Billy Gunn. I was going to go with Luther on Dark, but I think they’ll go with this shark branding and try to tie it into The Gunn Club stuff. Maybe Shark Boy & The Acclaimed lose to The Gunn Club and then Paul Wight comes out as Captain Insano to save them after a post-match beatdown?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh my god…Shark Boy vs. Shark MAN. Or Shark Boy II, Shark Boy W, Great W Shark, etc. Shark Boy vs. another masked shark wrestler. Or maybe even a giant tag team match pitting the sharks against the fishermen?

[Mr. Nerfect]

The only question I have is whether Shark Boy ends up All Elite or not. There’s so much they could do with him. Wardlow’s got those Goldberg vibes, right? Have Shark Boy do the Steve Austin impersonation against him.

[XL]

Shark Boy vs Bobby Fish writes itself.

[Jordan]

Bobby Fish vs The Butcher Shark, Week DREAM MATCH

[Mr. Nerfect]

You’ve got a masked dinosaur, a masked shark has got the same ancient apex predator vibes. Put Shark Boy with Christian and have Shark Boy as a smug heel that hides behind Luchasaurus. They can be the proper tag team of the group and maybe even Trios Champions together. Bring in a woman to be Lava Girl for the women’s division.

If you want to take their masks off, Luchasaurus’ real name is Austin. You can have Shark Boy do his Austin impersonation and call them “Austin & Austin.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shark Boy vs Bobby Fish writes itself.

Holy shit, forgot about Fish being there. That’s the meal ticket.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bobby Fish vs The Butcher Shark, Week DREAM MATCH

There’s a Rampage match set.

[Mr. Nerfect]

* The Gunn Club vs. The Acclaimed & Shark Boy

* Bobby Fish vs. The Butcher

Is there a women’s match we can give the shark theme to? I guess there’s a dentist/Jaws connection.

[drave]

sharkboy in a moat match.


he swims around the ring menacingly, because they made a moat and hes a shark.




shark

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why has there never been a stable of sharks? There are so many different kinds to play with. You can have Tiger Shark, Whale Shark, Hammerhead, Lemon, Great White, Nurse. There was a colony of ants.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think this Seinfeld standup act gimmick is just the trick for Noid to fix his image. Everyones favorite part of that show was the standup bits.

[Jordan]

Is anyone here thinking that they will be watching the new ROH product when/if it develops into some kind of a show, bit on on legit TV or streaming or whatever. I am in theory, going to watch it but only if they have decent crowds. I don't want to watch some Orlando Studio ROH tapings.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They’re going to fuck it up like they fuck up everything.

[Vastardikai]

just have sharkboy make an appearance. can't go wrong.

R.I.P. John Tenta... :'(

[Sepholio]

Well Britt Baker made my day. She was asked about how Rosa compared their rivalry to Austin/Rock. She basically said, no, we are not on that level, not even close and Rosa should keep her mouth shut because every time she opens it she says something stupid.

You fuckin tell her Britt.

[XL]

I mean, that wasn’t the point Rosa was making but yeah, sure.

[Sepholio]

lol, k

[Evil Vito]

Was gonna try to shoot for the same tix for Grand Slam this year since it was just perfect last year (front row upper deck, so nobody in front of me....plus as a bonus I was on the aisle)

Looking at the seating chart, for some reason they've decided to reverse the setup this time. So the stage is on the side of the other side of the arena. Doesn't seem it'd make a difference though because the arena should be pretty much the same on both sides.

[#1-norm-fan]

I mean, that wasn’t the point Rosa was making but yeah, sure.

It really wasn’t. At all. This was one of the more blatantly desperate attempts to force a narrative in a long line of them.

[XL]

lol, k

She meant that she and Britt would keep finding their way back to each other and have a “career feud”…like Rock and Austin. Not that they’d be the biggest feud during the hottest period of the business facing off against each other at 3 Manias.

Don’t get me wrong, Rosa comes out with some tripe and she’s nowhere near the level that’s she’s currently being pushed to but it’s clear what she was trying to say albeit very clumsily. .

[#1-norm-fan]

I don’t even think it was all that clumsy. It was clear as day what she was saying to anyone who wasn’t reading it with an ulterior motive in mind. It’s not her job to choose her words in the least twistable way possible.

[Evil Vito]

Nah, making a mountain out of a molehill about anything anyone affiliated with AEW does is all the rage.

[Evil Vito]

Tbf it was no different when everything in WWE land got dissected with a fine tooth comb on here. You know, back when most of the board actually gave a shit about WWE. :lol:

[Evil Vito]

Protip for Jordan, AAA or anyone else that might be thinking about going to Grand Slam again, if you use "A View From My Seat" or anything like that as a frame of reference just remember everything's inversed. So like section 110 is dead center of the ring, meaning 109/111 are flipped this year etc

So below would be something close to the "equivalent" of the seats I just got, just reversed. Liked my view last year but couldn't get tix for there and honestly this looks like a better view anyway even if there was an extra spend. pumped.

https://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/PeterParker85-20220205154419.jpg

[Evil Vito]

seats are also on the aisle, thank god. gf pees like 3443254955 times a day

[Mr. Nerfect]

She meant that she and Britt would keep finding their way back to each other and have a “career feud”…like Rock and Austin. Not that they’d be the biggest feud during the hottest period of the business facing off against each other at 3 Manias.

Don’t get me wrong, Rosa comes out with some tripe and she’s nowhere near the level that’s she’s currently being pushed to but it’s clear what she was trying to say albeit very clumsily. .

It’s a pretty well-known rule to not compare yourself to the biggest stars in the industry. Once you drop Austin and Rock’s names or compare your series to Flair/Steamboat, or a moment to Andre/Hogan you are done. Those are just examples. She should know that. Even her coworkers are like “shut up, dude.”

People want their favorite wrestlers to be smart, but a lot of them are just fucking idiots. As you said, she’s always putting her foot in her mouth.

[drave]

mebbe she likes to suck toes maaaaaaaaaan.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tbf it was no different when everything in WWE land got dissected with a fine tooth comb on here. You know, back when most of the board actually gave a shit about WWE. :lol:

And to think that there are millions more people out there that still care way more about WWE than AEW. Fucking scary how dead wrestling is.

[xrodmuc316]

Protip for Jordan, AAA or anyone else that might be thinking about going to Grand Slam again, if you use "A View From My Seat" or anything like that as a frame of reference just remember everything's inversed. So like section 110 is dead center of the ring, meaning 109/111 are flipped this year etc

So below would be something close to the "equivalent" of the seats I just got, just reversed. Liked my view last year but couldn't get tix for there and honestly this looks like a better view anyway even if there was an extra spend. pumped.

https://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/PeterParker85-20220205154419.jpg

IF the "View from my Seat" is a visual of CM Phil, it is a HORRIBLE seat. In that case, you would only want to buy an obstructive view seat to avoid seeing that weak bitch. :rofl:

[XL]

It’s a pretty well-known rule to not compare yourself to the biggest stars in the industry. Once you drop Austin and Rock’s names or compare your series to Flair/Steamboat, or a moment to Andre/Hogan you are done. Those are just examples. She should know that. Even her coworkers are like “shut up, dude.”

People want their favorite wrestlers to be smart, but a lot of them are just fucking idiots. As you said, she’s always putting her foot in her mouth.

Yeah I get that but how do you get the point she’s trying to make across succinctly? She could have said Trish/Lita for a female comparison but she’d probably catch almost as much flak for that. Kane/Undertaker? How many “career feuds” can you think of that didn’t involved top guys (or guys that would go on to be top guys)? The whole thing just feels a little hypercritical.

[#1-norm-fan]

I get your thing is to try to reason to the bitter end without being too combative, XL. But I really think you’re being too nice here. Lol

She made the point fine. Like I said, it shouldn’t be up to her to look for any little thing in her words that can possibly be twisted by people with an agenda.

[XL]

You’re probably right.

[#1-norm-fan]

(She did also give Lita and Trish as an example in the quote, by the way.)

[Fignuts]

I wouldn't have a problem with it even if she did compare herself directly.

If you aren't always presenting yourself as a bigger deal than you are, then you never will be a bigger deal than you are.

[Fignuts]

I'm not sure when people started having a problem with that. It's just showmanship.

[Frank Drebin]

seats are also on the aisle, thank god. gf pees like 3443254955 times a day

Can she hit the urinal without peeing all over the floor?

(She did also give Lita and Trish as an example in the quote, by the way.)

Alicia Fox verse Melina

[Evil Vito]

Can she hit the urinal without peeing all over the floor?

Wonder what ever happened to the infamous floor pisser that worked at my old job, know he got laid off while I was there but not sure what ever happened to him after.

I'd like to think he hasn't left his house since COVID started. For the betterment of society.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah I get that but how do you get the point she’s trying to make across succinctly? She could have said Trish/Lita for a female comparison but she’d probably catch almost as much flak for that. Kane/Undertaker? How many “career feuds” can you think of that didn’t involved top guys (or guys that would go on to be top guys)? The whole thing just feels a little hypercritical.

Just say your personal issue isn’t over. You have a feeling you’ll cross paths many times in the future. You don’t need to psychological plant the analogy that you are on a level that is going to betray how not on that level you are not (which is what happened — she’s still fucking recovering from it — even with her coworkers).

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm not sure when people started having a problem with that. It's just showmanship.

Lol, it’s been forever. People used to get frustrated by “Who is the next Rock” on here way back in 2004. It’s not a new thing. You don’t compare yourself to something that has achieved greatness in the mind of your target audience. It’s a rule of showmanship. If you’re an actor, don’t compare yourself to Marlon Brando. If you’re a singer, don’t compare yourself to Frank Sinatra, etc.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm not sure when people started having a problem with that. It's just showmanship.

Lol, it’s been forever. People used to get frustrated by “Who is the next Rock” on here way back in 2004. It’s not a new thing. You don’t compare yourself to something that has achieved greatness in the mind of your target audience. It’s a rule of showmanship. If you’re an actor, don’t compare yourself to Marlon Brando. If you’re a singer, don’t compare yourself to Frank Sinatra, etc.

[#1-norm-fan]

If a movie has a similar plot to The Godfather, saying it has a similar plot to The Godfather is not the same as comparing it to The Godfather. Jesus Christ. And if someone thinks that, fuck ‘em. That’s their own inability or unwillingness to understand basic fucking context. Again, it shouldn’t be her job to protect her words from dumb/desperate try-hards.

Good faith conversation my ass. Lol

Also…

“No, I think Thunder Rosa should talk the least amount as possible in wrestling and in interviews and in everything and the world would be a better place because she sounds stupid all the time when she says anything. That’s what I think [Baker smiled].“

SHOOOOOOOT!!!!

[Vastardikai]

On one hand, sometime Rosa can be cringe on some of the things she says. Not gonna lie on that.

On the other hand, Britt can fuck right off. Like right the fuck off. How does she not understand one aspect of the wrestling business that I got when I was doing E-Wrestling bullshit: Don't bury your opponent. But, Britt sees Rosa as a threat to her star power, because people actually WANT to wrestle Thunder Rosa. Luckily for Britt, she dates a string bean of a man and gives just enough attention to the Money Mark that he gets a boner and feels important, so she is in a better spot than she has any right to be in.

[Mr. Nerfect]

On one hand, sometime Rosa can be cringe on some of the things she says. Not gonna lie on that.

On the other hand, Britt can fuck right off. Like right the fuck off. How does she not understand one aspect of the wrestling business that I got when I was doing E-Wrestling bullshit: Don't bury your opponent. But, Britt sees Rosa as a threat to her star power, because people actually WANT to wrestle Thunder Rosa. Luckily for Britt, she dates a string bean of a man and gives just enough attention to the Money Mark that he gets a boner and feels important, so she is in a better spot than she has any right to be in.

Britt shouldn’t have taken those swipes, I agree. Rosa needs a talking to from management. She does seem to play a game really well, I dunno — I see why Britt Baker is potentially more valuable than Rosa, who seems really hit and miss.

[XL]

Seth Freakin’ Rollins over here breaking that well-known rule, comparing himself to Shawn, Eddie, and Bret.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seth Freakin’ Rollins over here breaking that well-known rule, comparing himself to Shawn, Eddie, and Bret.

And that guy just commands respect, doesn’t he?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Even Dave is beginning to mock Rampage now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Danielson is cleared and is going to be wrestling Daniel Garcia on Dynamite. I don’t dislike Garcia, but come on man — choose your spots.

[Jordan]

It's gonna be a good match. Garcia is getting a big push, it's a better investment than Guevara I think.

[xrodmuc316]

It is too bad Bryan isn't Tiny Khan's favorite.

[Fignuts]

They could turn Garcia into huge babyface by running an angle where Sammy runs him out of the JAS. Plant the seeds by having Garcia begrudgingly shake Danielson's hand after their match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That would be a way to go. I also prefer Garcia to Guevara.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Sepholio]

Gresham is a fine talent but I don't see him as world title level. But that's just because I'll never buy a guy who is 5'4" being a viable world champ when surrounded by guys a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier. The size difference is just too much for me.

Secondary titles would be fine for him though imo.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Agree with the World Title thing, at least at this point, but I think there are guys taller I would prefer to fight over him. Dude is in shape and can probably tangle you up. Still deserves to be treated with respect as a talent and human being — and you know what? As the World Champion of that promotion, whether you think he’s a natural fit or not. That’s the hand they were dealt/kept playing after Supercard of Honor. Let him know what the plans for him are so he can have faith in management and doing a good job putting someone over.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Even the guys whinging about him not liking his lumps admit he is a talented guy. The knocks on him are his size and having not having a dynamic personality. Absolutely no one is saying he sucks in the ring.

[Sepholio]

lol apparently AEW and Kenny Omega have filed a Cease and Desist against Will Ospreay over his new shirt on pro wrestling tees and had it taken off the market. Womp womp.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s a work.

[Vastardikai]

lol apparently AEW and Kenny Omega have filed a Cease and Desist against Will Ospreay over his new shirt on pro wrestling tees and had it taken off the market. Womp womp.

If there's any backlash, Omega will blame the Lawyer for being "overzealous."

[Mr. Nerfect]

If there's any backlash, Omega will blame the Lawyer for being "overzealous."

He’s already being passive aggressive about it. “This triggered serious legal concerns within #Aew. Sincerely apologies to fans of Will. We’ve made it so all order (up to today) will be honored.”

For what it’s worth, as slimy and disingenuous and overrated as I think Omega is, Ospreay’s shirt is way out of line. For those wondering, it’s got an illustrated picture of him doing a move on the front with “Billy the Wanker” in ugly font. On the back it has “Better than ‘The Best’ Bout Machine.” Way too on the nose.

I’m not about to go looking into trademarks, but you could have gone for something way more general like “Better than ‘The Best’” or “Better than Any Bout Machine” which is probably still cutting it too fine.

I actually like “Billy the Wanker” as a nickname though.

[Evil Vito]

In wake of the Gresham story about miscommunication within AEW...Joey Janela went on record that his words of "being ghosted" by Tony Khan were taken out of context, and that he never had an issue with talking to Khan, his issue was moreso that talent relations isn't on the ball. Tony Deppen also mentioned that he found it easy to get in contact with Tony Khan directly at a taping and had a full blown conversation with him despite being an extra.

I see two issues that tie in to each other:

1) Khan might have a largely good rapport with the talent he talks to but the guy runs and books two promotions, is the co-owner and working in the front office of two professional sports franchise, and runs a sports analytics firm. The guy could have his phone open 24 hours a day and there's simply no way he'd be able to drop everything to talk with everyone who might need him. This is where you need intermediaries who have some oversight, specifically Talent Relations

2) They DO have a Talent Relations department but as far as I know it's Christopher Daniels, Michael Nakazawa, and Shawn Dean...all of whom are at least semi-active on the independents themselves. They really need a dedicated person or two in that kind of a job.

[Evil Vito]

The "jobs for the boys" approach of giving front office jobs to wrestlers made sense when AEW first started and there were only so many people they could sign. Plus at that point nearly everyone on the roster had connections to Cody, Jericho, Omega, the Bucks, Daniels, etc and so it was easier to network and get face time in front of Khan.

But they've signed dozens and dozens of people in the last couple of years, including talent they probably never thought would be available. The structure they were using might've worked for original AEW and Daily's Place pandemic AEW, but not the last year of AEW where they've grown the roster rapidly. Not having a full-time Talent Relations staff etc isn't really conducive to a streamlined, functional corporate structure.

[Jordan]

Jonny Ace and Bruce Prichard about to become All Elite.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tony Khan can find time to tweet about Vince McMahon and hang out with Tony Deppen, but he can’t settle out issues with his ROH World Champion prior to the day of the PPV? That doesn’t make Khan look as chill as some think it does.

He’s done this to Chavo, to Swole, to Stunt. If the conversation is awkward, he will avoid it. He’s available for things he wants to be available for.

[slik]

Tully Blanchard gone from AEW/ROH

[Mr. Nerfect]

That doesn’t surprise me. It seemed about time. That being said, they were still working towards things with him with this Brian Cage stuff. That was when — April?

[slik]

He had a new faction w/ Cage, Tully Blanchard Enterprises - They wrestled on the pre-show for Death Before Dishonor, though Tully wasn't at ringside

[Mr. Nerfect]

He had a new faction w/ Cage, Tully Blanchard Enterprises - They wrestled on the pre-show for Death Before Dishonor, though Tully wasn't at ringside

Yeah, that’s what I mean. Seems odd to go about that if his contract is expiring and you don’t plan to be re-sign him.

[xrodmuc316]

CM Punk SOOOOOO injured
"Foot Shattered"
Has to relearn walking
Goes to Comic Con
Walks around with a Walking Boot
"Owwwwie it hurts"
Title Unification match???
https://i.imgflip.com/6nvplj.gif

Stubbed toe on guardrail like an 0-2 MMA Failure :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Dang. Was any of this confirmed by the Sean Ross Sapp? COULD BE DAMNING!

[Mr. Nerfect]

CM Punk SOOOOOO injured
"Foot Shattered"
Has to relearn walking
Goes to Comic Con
Walks around with a Walking Boot
"Owwwwie it hurts"
Title Unification match???
https://i.imgflip.com/6nvplj.gif

Stubbed toe on guardrail like an 0-2 MMA Failure :rofl:

I honestly don’t want CM Punk to return at this point. He got very stale very fast. The same thing happened when he left WWE. You realize how little you miss their actual work.

[Vastardikai]

Dang. Was any of this confirmed by the Sean Ross Sapp? COULD BE DAMNING!

He was too busy rubbing your inner thigh, as you do.

[#1-norm-fan]

Well, he could report it after.

[Vastardikai]

He’s already being passive aggressive about it. “This triggered serious legal concerns within #Aew. Sincerely apologies to fans of Will. We’ve made it so all order (up to today) will be honored.”

For what it’s worth, as slimy and disingenuous and overrated as I think Omega is, Ospreay’s shirt is way out of line. For those wondering, it’s got an illustrated picture of him doing a move on the front with “Billy the Wanker” in ugly font. On the back it has “Better than ‘The Best’ Bout Machine.” Way too on the nose.

I’m not about to go looking into trademarks, but you could have gone for something way more general like “Better than ‘The Best’” or “Better than Any Bout Machine” which is probably still cutting it too fine.

I actually like “Billy the Wanker” as a nickname though.

So... at what point does this not become dumb?

[Mr. Nerfect]

So... at what point does this not become dumb?

Oh, it’s dumb from the start right on through.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H is already taking the fight back to AEW, apparently. Brandon Thurston is saying that the next NXT “premium live event” on Peacock is going to be going against All Out on September 4.

You’d think he’d have to have something biggish planned to go against whatever AEW has planned.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Rumored to be at the NOW Arena (formerly the Sears Center) in Chicago.

[xrodmuc316]

Triple H is already taking the fight back to AEW, apparently. Brandon Thurston is saying that the next NXT “premium live event” on Peacock is going to be going against All Out on September 4.

You’d think he’d have to have something biggish planned to go against whatever AEW has planned.

Cant WAIT for the Dubbalos to brag about All Out selling more tickets and doing more buys, while completely ignoring having a payroll 25 times larger than NXT, and also the $17 million WWE will make from Peacock that month :eek:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cant WAIT for the Dubbalos to brag about All Out selling more tickets and doing more buys, while completely ignoring having a payroll 25 times larger than NXT, and also the $17 million WWE will make from Peacock that month :eek:

They don’t even need successful metrics to call it a win.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, AEW is a joke to even most wrestling fans, let alone the general public. Its “popularity” in places like the UK and Canada is exaggerated for good PR.

[Frank Drebin]

Yes. It is known.

[xrodmuc316]

OMG Tiny is FREAKING OUT again right now, fucking spaz...

“Some of the narratives I’ve seen every day for the last week are really amusing me,” Khan said on the “Busted Open Radio” show. “I’ve got people signed here for five years. And people think, just because the guy, the CEO, the chairman, the head of creative, those positions change in the competition, people I have five-year contracts with are just magically gonna switch teams?”

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2022/07/tony-khan-blasts-narrative-that-aew-stars-will-jump-back-to-wwe/

[Sepholio]

That sounds like a man ready to sit people in catering for the next half a decade.

[xrodmuc316]

That sounds like a man ready to sit people in catering for the next half a decade.

THEY ARE MY TOYS, MINE!!! I CAN KEEP THEM AS LONG AS I WANT I HATE TRIPLE H!!!!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, what a a weird way to respond to those rumors. “They can’t go anywhere because I own them!” Why wouldn’t talent want to be in your promotion in the first place?

[Blonde Moment]

Or he could just be stating a fact.
As to why they might want to be there?
Freedom to be themselves and not stuck in gimmicks they didn't want?

[Jordan]

God Tony sounds like such a fucking loser when he does interviews. He's turning me! Him and his love for Sammy Guevara!

[Blonde Moment]

God Tony sounds like such a fucking loser when he does interviews. He's turning me! Him and his love for Sammy Guevara!

He has no charisma whatsoever and that is something money can never buy

[Mr. Nerfect]

Or he could just be stating a fact.
As to why they might want to be there?
Freedom to be themselves and not stuck in gimmicks they didn't want?

He’s saying they can’t switch teams because they’re under contract. Not that they don’t want to switch teams.

Their freedom has led to gimmicks viewers don’t want to see. Some talent are fucking stupid and shouldn’t be allowed to do what they want.

[#1-norm-fan]

Or he could just be stating a fact.


Correct. And the fact he’s stating is “Certain people on the internet are fucking stupid. That’s not how it works. Contracts are a thing.” Except he’s saying it much nicer than that.

[#1-norm-fan]

Sorry. I mean… HE’S FREAKING OUT, MAN!!!!

[xrodmuc316]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

People are talking about what happens when those contracts expire, making Khan’s point moot. But of course fanboys are going to ignore that and brag about Khan having people locked down like they don’t criticize WWE for the same thing.

It’s going to be interesting to see what happens if the unhappy talent in AEW start requesting their releases. We don’t really know of anyone besides Gresham that’s allegedly done it, save for a couple of green women who want out of wrestling.

You can tell by the snippets of CM Punk talking about the changes that it’s got people in AEW on edge, because a lot of their bargaining power has slipped away now that there is potential for the WWE to lose some of the negative associations of Vince and his style.

[Destor]

Tbf their top guys could buy out their contracts...they might be able to get the competition to pay the fee too. I dont think AEW has a non compete clause.

[Destor]

Whoops wrong page

[Destor]

(Im not saying they will mind you)

[Destor]

It is interesting though. If the wwe becomes a place where they want to work would they go? The earning potential is clearly higher. More dates though. Pros and cons.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tbf their top guys could buy out their contracts...they might be able to get the competition to pay the fee too. I dont think AEW has a non compete clause.

I was going to mention this in the Ric Flair thread. It doesn’t seem like a very WWE thing to do, but there’s a new regime. A few things are possible:

If someone sees the Ric Flair show as a potential springboard, ala All In, they could go to Tony Khan (or even WWE) and make plays for some of their talent. TK, especially, is allegedly running at a major deficit. If someone with money offered to buy out the contract of a Jay Lethal or Samoa Joe, even for cents on the dollar, that’s money TK isn’t spending and is getting.

Another possibility is that WWE get big eyes for some AEW talent that are under contract and make offers to work with AEW on that front. It looks good for a publicly traded company to play nice sometimes, and if they can get access to Daniel Bryan, Christian or whoever without needing to wait for their deals to come up, they could just work out a thing where they use them in conjunction to their AEW work.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Jonathan Gresham must have the biggest balls in AEW, according to Punk. Didn’t he also say something about talent sticking together?

[Jordan]

AEW guys need to shut the fuck up about WWE. It's just annoying, stop being bitter, you sound like a douche. Just enjoy AEW and help us enjoy it, get Tony to stop being a nerd on Twitter everyday and stop worrying about Vince and Triple Haitch.

I know that at those Con events they get asked questions so it's probably been rather prompted to Punk to speak like that but still, it's old hat now. We've had years of Punk talking shit about WWE, just be an AEW guy now and stop bringing it up.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah I don't begrudge Punk for his comments. He was asked about the situation directly and he weighed in. If he just made the comments out of hand it would be one thing but reporters and conference attendees are always gonna ask about this kind of shit so may as well speak your mind instead of giving a non-answer.

[Evil Vito]

Also I have no issues with Gresham choosing to yell at Tony and/or ask for his release. It's his career and he's got every right to try to find a better professional situation for himself if he wants to.

I can easily see where Gresham's unhappiness comes in. He was flying the ROH banner all throughout their shutdown, was trying to keep the ROH name going by defending the belt everywhere etc. Then he is made to drop the ROH title to an AEW signing just like all the other title holders.

I don't blame Tony for putting the belt on Claudio, to me that feels like the right move. But that doesn't mean Gresham doesn't have the right to be a bit miffed about it.

[Frank Drebin]

Where is MJF?

[xrodmuc316]

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[XL]

Did he use that on TV?

[XL]

And that guy just commands respect, doesn’t he?

Re: Seth Rollins

Regardless of personal feelings on the guy and the respect he commands from me, he’s a top 5 talent for WWE, heavily featured on TV, and a veteran of the business at this point. Surely he should be aware of this well known rule?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Re: Seth Rollins

Regardless of personal feelings on the guy and the respect he commands from me, he’s a top 5 talent for WWE, heavily featured on TV, and a veteran of the business at this point. Surely he should be aware of this well known rule?

Yes, he should. Do not compare yourself to something greater. It isn’t hard.

You’re making it sound like wrestlers can’t make stupid decisions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah I don't begrudge Punk for his comments. He was asked about the situation directly and he weighed in. If he just made the comments out of hand it would be one thing but reporters and conference attendees are always gonna ask about this kind of shit so may as well speak your mind instead of giving a non-answer.

Giving a non-answer is kind of what he did. He racked his brain trying to find something that made sense instead of just saying “Good for them, I hope they fix their issues.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brody King got a tombstone for Darby Allin tattooed onto him. Which is stupider — real or fake?

[Mr. Nerfect]

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:lol:

Yeah, bringing attention to that could be a mistake. Pretty stupid move to make your popularity (and lack thereof) a talking point of your show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tony Khan is going to be licensing music for Chris Jericho too. Because he hasn’t already spent enough money on his washed up act.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also I have no issues with Gresham choosing to yell at Tony and/or ask for his release. It's his career and he's got every right to try to find a better professional situation for himself if he wants to.

I can easily see where Gresham's unhappiness comes in. He was flying the ROH banner all throughout their shutdown, was trying to keep the ROH name going by defending the belt everywhere etc. Then he is made to drop the ROH title to an AEW signing just like all the other title holders.

I don't blame Tony for putting the belt on Claudio, to me that feels like the right move. But that doesn't mean Gresham doesn't have the right to be a bit miffed about it.

You’re one AEW fanboy. There are a lot of people running with the idea of Gresham being a mark for himself, wanting to go over Claudio, being unprofessional, being “woke,” etc. Anything to try and bury the idea that the booker in AEW cannot communicate effectively.

[Destor]

No one knew who was the RoH champ. There's no reason to be loyal to him. Its a business.

[#1-norm-fan]

Vito knows that old TEW rule. As soon as you take control of the company, get the titles on the right guys immediately.

[Destor]

Honestly...thats great advice

[Mr. Nerfect]

No one knew who was the RoH champ. There's no reason to be loyal to him. Its a business.

Claudio should absolutely be ROH Champ. Well, you can get into the argument about whether or not ROH should even exist and whether it’s firing a blank with the guy. But we don’t know that Gresham was pushing back against that at all. That’s a scarecrow being set up by AEW fans (at this point anyway).

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, ok, Punk won points with me for a quip in an IGN interview. He said AEW has something for everyone: “If you like technical wrestling — we’ve got that. If you like the garbage stuff? We got that.”

[Evil Vito]

Vito knows that old TEW rule. As soon as you take control of the company, get the titles on the right guys immediately.

100%. Every EWR and TEW game I've ever started, first order of business is always to look at the roster, decide if any of the champs should keep their belts and otherwise map out the route to get the belts on the people I want as quickly as possible.

Didn't always change the belts. Sometimes I'd happen to start a game with the fed right at the time where the guy I felt should be World champ already had it. But even then I'd thinking about who would be taking the belt off them months down the line.

[xrodmuc316]

Lol, ok, Punk won points with me for a quip in an IGN interview. He said AEW has something for everyone: “If you like technical wrestling — we’ve got that. If you like the garbage stuff? We got that.”

If you like a show that pretends the worst fighter in UFC history is still better than everybody else in the company, we got that too!
Funny old Phil :rofl:

[Sepholio]

Rampage apparently a disaster this week. Most of the audience left because they were having issues getting a pre-taped segment (with Ruby Soho and Anna Jay I think) to play and instead of moving on they just kept on dicking around with it and tried like 3 or 4 times and delaying everything. Everyone finally got pissed and bailed.

Also apparently some kind of altercation between Stokely Hathaway/Lee Moriarty and a fan. Dunno any details about it rn.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ha, sounds more interesting than the actual show. AEW sucks. Even the hardcores know it.

[Evil Vito]

LOL PWI is claiming that during his argument with Khan, Gresham used his ranking in the PWI 500 as a reason for why he should be presented better.

I don't buy that story tbh but the thought of it cracks me up.

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You're out, Jonathan. <a href="https://t.co/cH94DOFfJ5">pic.twitter.com/cH94DOFfJ5</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Rich (@AndrewTRich) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewTRich/status/1553039932549206022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t buy it either, lol.

[Sepholio]

Reports saying that when Gresham got into his argument with TK that he cited his PWI ranking (20th) as to why he should be better utilized.

AHAHAHA what a mark.

[Sting Fan]

Rampage pretty good so far. Yuta vs Jericho will be good.

Whatever the Stokely incident was it wasn’t noticeable on the show.

[Sting Fan]

Had suuuper low expectations for Ruby vs. Anna Jay but it was pretty good. Not a Ruby fan but did enjoy Anna Jay and Tay Vs. Ford and Bunny stuff so this was nice to see.

Can we get the TBS belt on Stat now please?

[Destor]

I buy the pwi bit. Lotta guys these days are marks for that kind of stuff

[Destor]

I always figured the better worker was the guy who owned the biggest house but hey if you like being no.20 in a magazine no one reads you do you

[xrodmuc316]

Yes, that argument is a really Mark type of argument, but considering who he was talking to, I mean what else does Tiny Khan even respond to?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, if it were true, TK probably would have changed his mind.

[Sepholio]

It just reminded me of when Danhausen snapped in a video promo about how he was promised #1 in the PWI and they lied to him. Except he was joking and Gresham apparently takes PWI very super seriously.

[Jordan]

I don't like Danhausen. Sorry to those who've put their full fait in this character, but it sucks. I don't watch GCW or wherever he came from so I don't "get the joke" or whatever.
From what I've seen on AEW though it's not good. To those who enjoy it, I'm glad you're happy about Danhausen. To me though, it's just a waste of time.

[Sepholio]

Its ok. I'm not mad at you for your terrible opinion. Also you've been cursed for not loving that Danhausen.

[screech]

It just reminded me of when Danhausen snapped in a video promo about how he was promised #1 in the PWI and they lied to him. Except he was joking and Gresham apparently takes PWI very super seriously.

I read Danhausen as Danielson here and was very confused.

[drave]

I don't like Danhausen. Sorry to those who've put their full fait in this character, but it sucks. I don't watch GCW or wherever he came from so I don't "get the joke" or whatever.
From what I've seen on AEW though it's not good. To those who enjoy it, I'm glad you're happy about Danhausen. To me though, it's just a waste of time.




It's a HUGE play on the old school Nosferatu character from the black and white film days. He is a huge horror fan, including the B-Cheese movies, and plays that up with his character.


It's unique, and works in small doses. Too much of it though, and it gets very old very quick. He will be a good enhancement talent for people to get wins over, and is recognizable enough to give the W to here and there.

[Fignuts]

He'd be great as a host for late night horror b movies. Don't care for him in this enviornment.

[Destor]

He'd have made a fine guest on Joe Bob's Drive-in Theater

[#1-norm-fan]

I discovered Danhausen through Jim Cornette, oddly enough. He would watch his cameos on his podcast and they were hilarious.

[#1-norm-fan]

If you’re discussing your outlaw mud show bullshit comedy wrestling and making Jim Cornette of all people laugh WITH you and not AT you about the subject, that’s a pretty big compliment.

[Destor]

The problem with Danhausen only exists if he wins. Unlike Cassidy who's issues crop up if he isnt completely obliterated always

[Destor]

Comedy undercard guy is totally fine though

[#1-norm-fan]

I think the best use for him is an occasional interviewer/analyst. Maybe even give him a talk show segment. Have him do some ridiculous stuff on the YouTube channel too.

I don’t need to see him wrestle. Like you said, he shouldn’t be winning and there’s only so many times you can milk him getting obliterated for heat. A comedy match where he beats a weasel manager or something once in a blue moon would be fine though.

[Destor]

Fluke comedy finishes are also acceptable.slipped on a banana peel stuff. Ref didnt see some bullshit from a guy his opponent is fueding with etc. You have to take active care in how you handle his finishes. He never just go out there and have a match.

[XL]

Agree. He’s a great personality to have around but the value is in others having to play it straight opposite him. I wouldn’t be using him in the ring all that much.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He could host an auxiliary show fine. Tighten up Dark and make it Danhausen’s thing.

[Sepholio]

Fluke comedy finishes are also acceptable.slipped on a banana peel stuff. Ref didnt see some bullshit from a guy his opponent is fueding with etc. You have to take active care in how you handle his finishes. He never just go out there and have a match.

This is why they need to lean more on his gimmick and have him use the jar of teeth like he did in the indies. It's never gonna work if he just straight up wrestles and always gets demolished. Give him some tricks to work with.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Dax is injured.

[drave]

This is why they need to lean more on his gimmick and have him use the jar of teeth like he did in the indies. It's never gonna work if he just straight up wrestles and always gets demolished. Give him some tricks to work with.




An overly-large hammer kinda like the Fiend's, but moar funny, a flower that sprays sputa instead of water, other crap.

[Sepholio]

Overly large hammer reminds me of the Bludgeon Brothers

[xrodmuc316]

Dax is injured.

Why he gotta do everything his bf Phil does :rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hey now, he didn’t jump into a crowd like a dickhead. That I’ve seen anyway.

Dude got hurt carrying the wrestling portion of this program.

[Sting Fan]

Pretty excited for the AEW game. I havent purchased a WWE game in a few years but my wife got me the 2K one with AJ styles as the cover whatever year that is.

I will put down the cash for AEW in hopes of something a bit different.

[Helmsphere]

2k22 is actually pretty good.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve heard good things about 2k22, although I haven’t played a WWE game in years. A lot of people are suggesting you just download AEW wrestlers for that. The AEW game itself is projected to be terrible. The head developer ran for the hills and joined the 2k team.

[screech]

2k22 is v fun. Really looking forward to the AEW game, especially since I read it's coming to PC

[Evil Vito]

2k22 is the first WWE game I've played in years and the first game that seemed like they really made positive changes.

Still not a whole lot of footage out on the AEW game so I'll wait and see but I'm keen to check it out. Might be a bit more arcade-y which I'm fine with. I've got Fire Pro if I want more like simulation wrestling.

[drave]

The official site is now live


https://aew.thqnordic.com/


Not a whole lot more available than what was already known. Definitely getting vibes of the N64 wrestling games tho, which is NOT a bad thing.

[Splaya]

Danhaussen sucks. Can't wrestle. And the gimmick is boring. When AEW came to Detroit, the darlings there went apeshit for him...I just don't see it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They released a trailer for the game and it looks horrible.

[Sepholio]

Splaya woke up today and chose to be cursed.

[xrodmuc316]

Ahh the game that they spent like $50 million to make that the Cultist have been saying will sell 5 million copies for 2 years, because 5 times more people will buy the game then watch the actual show. Dubbalos man :rofl:

[drave]

They released a trailer for the game and it looks horrible.




They are 100% not going for "realistic". That has been clear from the beginning. It closely resembles the N64 days of "WCW/NWO Revenge" and "Wrestlemania 2000".


If the game plays closely to those titles, it will sell very well.

[screech]

Love danhausen. Makes me laugh. Would like to see him interrupt more backstage interviews.

[screech]

I'm not excited about some of the minigame shit I saw in the AEW game trailer but it looks like the THQ/AKI N64 games so I'll be good if it plays anything like those.

(Though even if it plays like WWE 2k22 I'll be good. I like those controls. Don't really give a shit about graphics/art style). Just give me decent controls at the very least.)

[#1-norm-fan]

They are 100% not going for "realistic". That has been clear from the beginning. It closely resembles the N64 days of "WCW/NWO Revenge" and "Wrestlemania 2000".


If the game plays closely to those titles, it will sell very well.

They hyped the old school easy controls which, for a non-gamer like me is a selling point. I tend to revert to button mashing when I play newer wrestling games.

[#1-norm-fan]

It’s been a while but I think it was “WWF Attitude” where wrestling games started that “up, up, right, down, right, B to clothesline” ridiculousness and I just couldn’t anymore.

[screech]

War Zone and Attitude were like that. Terrible.

[screech]

ECW Hardcore Revolution too

[#1-norm-fan]

Never played the ECW game but I heard terrible things.

[Evil Vito]

Literally all I need is for the wrestling gameplay to be fun. That’s all that matters. Gameplay sucks, the game sucks. Pretty simple.

Don’t care about any of the optional mini games but don’t see the point in bitching about them UNLESS the core gameplay sucks, which none of us can know yet.

[Fignuts]

People have been trying to replicate the AKI engine for 20 years to no avail.

[xrodmuc316]

Yo I don't remember this in any of the N64 Wrestling Games :rofl:

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[Lock Jaw]

To be fair, I would have loved wacky minigames in the N64 Wrestling Games

[Fignuts]

ECW Hardcore Revolution too

Literally all I need is for the wrestling gameplay to be fun. That’s all that matters. Gameplay sucks, the game sucks. Pretty simple.

Don’t care about any of the optional mini games but don’t see the point in bitching about them UNLESS the core gameplay sucks, which none of us can know yet.

The point is that whatever time they spent making all those mini games would have been time better spent on something wrestling fans actually give a shit about.

It's not a good sign.

[Sepholio]

Super AEW Party Allstars

[Sepholio]

So I actually like AEW for the most part but I just feel like the last few months have been a downhill slide. I know the injury bug got them hard, but even so, the quality has been dropping hard imo. We keep having these special shows and gimmick matches and none of it feels like it matters. There aren't really any compelling storylines rn imo. Feel like even match quality has dropped a bit and they try to compensate with all these crazy gimmicks and blood in every match and it just comes off flat and overworked. They are taking too long to do anything with MJF and it's basically being ignored. Wardlow was on fire and I dunno if it's just me but it feels like he has already cooled off way too much. Just the whole product feels off compared to where it was a year ago.

And they really picked the worst time to shit the bed. Well maybe not shit, but def dutch ovened. Vince is gone and WWE is picking up steam and they've hardly even done anything yet. IF (and thats a big if) WWE keeps turning it around and improving...man I feel like AEW might fall off into loltna territory.

I dunno, just want them to get their shit together and be more fun like it was. Maybe their new 2 VPs of creative (Sonjay and QT) will be able to work some magic. Even putting other guys in creative and implying it won't all be TK is a good sign there imo. Dunno how good these 2 will be at the job but I'm interested to see where they take it. Honestly don't expect much before the next big PPV but I'm hoping they start picking up steam from there.

[Sepholio]

Oh and please for the love God can you at least save one of the 2 biggest matches on a card for the end of the show? Christ. I use the term a good bit, but damn TK really does blow his load way too early on basically every show. I am nowhere near as interested in the last hour and 15 minutes as I am the first 45. It just fades away into the background noise and only occasionally gets my attention after that.

It's a chore getting through 3 hours of RAW but at least I know something entertaining is prob gonna happen at the end. Keeps me more invested overall.

[Sting Fan]

I’m not a mini game kinda guy in almost any game so that’s meh for me but there’s a lot of “bells and whistles” I don’t use in a lot of games so them existing don’t worry me so long as there not forced on me.

I kind of enjoyed the TNA game, I’m a bit of a sucker for just being able to have the right wrestlers represented with the right music and entrances etc.

If it’s a fairly easy play and has that im in.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be fair, I would have loved wacky minigames in the N64 Wrestling Games

Let’s not pretend these games are going to be good though lol. One looks like they’re doing the YMCA. Wtf is that shit? This is going to be lampooned and deservedly so.

I’m getting the feeling they made mini-games because they couldn’t make the actual wrestling part well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So I actually like AEW for the most part but I just feel like the last few months have been a downhill slide. I know the injury bug got them hard, but even so, the quality has been dropping hard imo. We keep having these special shows and gimmick matches and none of it feels like it matters. There aren't really any compelling storylines rn imo. Feel like even match quality has dropped a bit and they try to compensate with all these crazy gimmicks and blood in every match and it just comes off flat and overworked. They are taking too long to do anything with MJF and it's basically being ignored. Wardlow was on fire and I dunno if it's just me but it feels like he has already cooled off way too much. Just the whole product feels off compared to where it was a year ago.

And they really picked the worst time to shit the bed. Well maybe not shit, but def dutch ovened. Vince is gone and WWE is picking up steam and they've hardly even done anything yet. IF (and thats a big if) WWE keeps turning it around and improving...man I feel like AEW might fall off into loltna territory.

I dunno, just want them to get their shit together and be more fun like it was. Maybe their new 2 VPs of creative (Sonjay and QT) will be able to work some magic. Even putting other guys in creative and implying it won't all be TK is a good sign there imo. Dunno how good these 2 will be at the job but I'm interested to see where they take it. Honestly don't expect much before the next big PPV but I'm hoping they start picking up steam from there.

I agree with your post almost entirely, except I’d argue they have been LolTNA for a loooooong time already.

[Evil Vito]

The point is that whatever time they spent making all those mini games would have been time better spent on something wrestling fans actually give a shit about.

It's not a good sign.

Thing is there's still so little information about the game or its features that we can't really know what, if anything, was left out that fans will be upset about not being in the game.

Like if story/campaign mode or whatever ends up being short or underwhelming, then absolutely it might come back to "well maybe they could've done more with this if they didn't waste time on those stupid mini-games", but we really don't know yet what the mini-games came at the expense of.

I'm okay with the addition of mini-games so long as they're just that: additions. Rather than being in lieu of something core wrestling gamers would've reasonably expected.

[Evil Vito]

One thing that threw me off...a few months ago they'd been prepping people for the in-game roster to be a lot smaller than people were expecting, around 50 was the number being thrown out.

So to see Abadon and Yuka Sakazaki being shown in the latest clips caught me off guard. That would seemingly point to the roster being a lot bigger than initially reported as I wouldn't for one second have entertained the idea of them being on a 50-person roster. They're barely ever on TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

One thing that threw me off...a few months ago they'd been prepping people for the in-game roster to be a lot smaller than people were expecting, around 50 was the number being thrown out.

So to see Abadon and Yuka Sakazaki being shown in the latest clips caught me off guard. That would seemingly point to the roster being a lot bigger than initially reported as I wouldn't for one second have entertained the idea of them being on a 50-person roster. They're barely ever on TV.

Or that it’s EXTREMELY out of date.

[Helmsphere]

Or you're going to get the dies hards who usually piss and moan about micro transactions and post game dlc gleefully throwing down fifteen bucks to get Brian Pillman Jr, Leva Bates and Peter Avalon.

[xrodmuc316]

Or that it’s EXTREMELY out of date.

They said Cody is still in the game, and he has been gone for what like 7 months? So it is at least that out of date.

[#1-norm-fan]

They should put Owen in the game. Just for the freak outs.

[Evil Vito]

Pretty sure Owen was already confirmed to be in the game.

Kenny also said that the roster and story were meant to be reflective of AEW history up until the turn of 2022. So it would make sense that Cody is in there as you literally can’t tell the story of AEW without him.

[Maluco]

If I were the money man behind the business, the first thing I would do would be remove Tony Khan from booking duties, since he has no real experience or qualification for the job outside of being a fan.

Unfortunately for AEW, those two people are one in the same, and they are stuck as long as his ego persuades him that he can do it all.

[Sepholio]

Tony Kennedy McKhan

[Mr. Nerfect]

Gabe Sapolsky was out there. Jim Ross and Arn Anderson work for the company. He has to go with himself.

What brilliant angles has TK come up with? Which feuds have actually picked up steam and been worthwhile? Even at best, even if you love AEW, you have to admit he is a maintenance booker.

Gabe Sapolsky is probably going to end up back in WWE now. Triple H might also pick up Delirious.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Battle of the Belts shows have sucked so far. Typical AEW. Claudio vs. Takeshita has me intrigued though. I just wish it wasn’t for a zombie title.

[xrodmuc316]

Gabe Sapolsky was out there. Jim Ross and Arn Anderson work for the company. He has to go with himself.

What brilliant angles has TK come up with? Which feuds have actually picked up steam and been worthwhile? Even at best, even if you love AEW, you have to admit he is a maintenance booker.

Gabe Sapolsky is probably going to end up back in WWE now. Triple H might also pick up Delirious.

TK's genius idea is literally booking his shows like January 1998 Raw. They did the exact dumpster spot, but like everything AEW rips off, they did it poorly. They could not push the dumpster straight, or even push it at all lol. Built up no real speed, and even JR who called both, was pretty flat.

[Jordan]

That whole match was made to rip off that spot. Pathetic fanboy booking.

[Jordan]

Probably produced by Kipp though tbh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Gunn Club will be awesome in NXT.

[xrodmuc316]

Why is CM Phil injured like a bitch, yet still out doing FEDBAD interviews?

“You can’t lead people somewhere you’ve never gone,” Punk told “The Hashtag Show” during media row at San Diego Comic-Con. “I try to be as humble as I can be and I don’t like talking about myself but I was the first guy through the wall. I got f*cking bloodied for it, you know what I mean? And to watch somebody else stand up and walk out, I’m always going to support that. One hundred f*ckin’ percent. I never met Mercedes. I don’t know her, but I definitely feel solidarity with her. I know how that place is, and I know how women are treated there. I’m not a woman myself, so I can’t put myself in those shoes, but there’s probably a lot of reasons why she peaced out.”

He knows how Ronda, Becky, Charlotte, Bianca, and Sasha are treated, which is better than his dumbass that was never good enough to main event Wrestlemania. Can this dude just finish dying from Aids already?

[Sepholio]

hey now thats a little harsh lmao