All Elite Wrestling

[Sting Fan]

I enjoyed it. Messy in some parts but it felt like programs kept moving along and, as usual, there were some decent matches.

Feels like the hype videos have gotten better tbh.

And I’m excited for HOB return, Elite return, the death Triangle feud is gonna rip shit up and FTR run to the belts will be good too.

Lots to look forward too I think.

[Sepholio]

lol the AEW shop is selling a CM Punk Christmas ornament. Only 200 of them are available.

[Sepholio]

https://i.imgur.com/Ss1r16C.jpg

[Sepholio]

That beauty can be yours for only 14.99!

[Mr. Nerfect]

That’s a cool $300 in Punk’s pocket.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He’ll sell more of those than Orange Cassidy sells shirts.

[screech]

that looks so bad lol

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Jeff Jarrett so good, first time I’ve seen him since WCW I think, looks in good shape and great on the mic, very glad we got a “slapnuts”

Only downside is he’s teamed up with Jay Lethal and co who I skip through every time they’re on, so boring. Wish he was in charge of The Firm instead since they seem like they’re going to be fairy prominent. Stokely isn’t a very good leader of a dominant hitman faction imo.

Again too many ROH and uninteresting people involved in the show, need Bucks and Omega back asap.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Billy Gunn vs Jeff Jarrett for the AEW heavyweight championship at the next ppv please

[Evil Vito]

https://i.imgur.com/Ss1r16C.jpg

lmao that is horrendous

I presume even though Punk's almost certainly not returning AEW have no choice but to offload the merch that was made for him since he gets a cut of it and is still, for now, under contract.

They're still selling his shirts at live events too. Best to not fuck around with it, WWE pulled Punk's merch as soon as he walked out and then after they fired him they had to cut a deal with Punk to sell the merch online because he lost out on income from the walkout through his July release date.

[xrodmuc316]

That beauty can be yours for only 14.99!

Those are limited edition, only 200 available. Somebody tell Fan he better hurry up and buy! Dude will be in utter dishevelment if he misses out :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[drave]

Those are limited edition, only 200 available. Somebody tell Fan he better hurry up and buy! Dude will be in utter SHAMBLES if he misses out :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[drave]

it's a funny word.

[drave]

I know you think shingles is painful, but have you ever had SHAMBLES?!

[xrodmuc316]

I know you think shingles is painful, but have you ever had SHAMBLES?!

Honestly, how much would Shingles throw Fan into Shambles? :eek:

[#1-norm-fan]

Desperate projection of SHAMBLES is a late-stage side effect of BOILING and being in TATTERS (along with rampant transphobia/homophobia). There is no known treatment for the BOILING TATTERS. Death is imminent at this stage. Goodnight, my child. Noid soon to be a widow.

[Sepholio]

SuperMAN SHAMBLES to the rescue.

[xrodmuc316]

SuperMAN SHAMBLES to the rescue.

Let me guess, Fan wasnt quick enough to snag a CM Phil Christmas Ornament, got super mad, and posted the same nonsense he always has? He probably parroted back some form of what I posted, mixed in with some reference to something else I posted like 3 years ago, and implied I was gay, while also somehow mocking homophobia unironically.

How did I do Seph?

[Mr. Nerfect]

The AEW video game is going to be so funny.

[Sepholio]

....after rereading his post that turns out to be a pretty accurate assessment.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They probably put a Jackson’s wife in charge of the Christmas ornaments, because she’s more than qualified.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There better be a Keith Lee one.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They need to have a Darby Allin Elf on the Shelf that you move around and position in different places. He can have a little skateboard and you forget he exists for the rest of the year.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh boy. The rapid fake ignores are speeding up. The disease is progressing quickly. The frenzied rofls are next. Then… oh boy…

https://media.tenor.com/NCAbnCYRsCsAAAAS/missed-donuts.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, Matt Hardy is like “The Elite are right. They’ve done nothing wrong. I witnessed it all.” Then he issues a correction: “Sorry, I wasn’t actually at All Out, I didn’t see anything.”

Fucking idiots.

[xrodmuc316]

There better be a Keith Lee one.

They should make one with both Adam Cole and Colt Cabana.

It could be "ALL ABOUT THE SCOTTY BOOM...BOOM!"

[xrodmuc316]

Lol, Matt Hardy is like “The Elite are right. They’ve done nothing wrong. I witnessed it all.” Then he issues a correction: “Sorry, I wasn’t actually at All Out, I didn’t see anything.”

Fucking idiots.

Broken Matt witnessed it from one of his plains of dimensions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

90% of the proceeds from the CM Punk one should go to the Colt Cabana Relief Fund. To be payable to his mother.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Broken Matt witnessed it from one of his plains of dimensions.

He’s also in a dimension where he is talented and Jeff is sober.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jade Cargill: All the women in AEW can have a five star match, they just need the time to do it.

Does she mean they can have a five star match if their time wasn’t so short, or if they got more time to, like, train in a hyperbolic chamber or something?

[Mr. Nerfect]

She’s also doing a Nikki Bella and taking swipes at how women are used in the company.

CM Punk’s fault.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ricky Starks has been off AEW television because of something non-injury related. It’s called terrible booking.

[Mr. Nerfect]

One of Jeff Jarrett’s duties in AEW includes managing house shows. AEW doesn’t currently produce any house shows. Whew, at least that job‘s done.

[XL]

Jade Cargill: All the women in AEW can have a five star match, they just need the time to do it.

Does she mean they can have a five star match if their time wasn’t so short, or if they got more time to, like, train in a hyperbolic chamber or something?

The latter was my immediate take. "AEW's women can have a five star match, they just need 10 years to get to grips with the basics".

[Sepholio]

10 years isn't enough time for the Marina Shafirs of the world.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’ll have to happen in Impact, because it’ll be the only company still around in post-apocalyptic times.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Reby Hardy has said “Fuck CM Punk.” So I think we can all break bread now we all know that Punk was in the right, at least in this situation.

[#1-norm-fan]

Please. The constant L’s and Nyla Rose daring to call herself a woman have exacerbated our terminal angel’s shamblin’ boilin’ tatters enough. We don’t need to add a “Punk was right” on top of this. There won’t be enough rofls in the world to hide the pain. Delete your post.

[slik]

Why didn't AEW advertise Mike Tyson for Rampage?

[Mr. Nerfect]

LolAEW

I wonder if he falls asleep calling it?

[slik]

This is a TNA level of incompetence

The Double J era begins

[slik]

Mike is clearly having the time of his life at Rampage

https://i.postimg.cc/SQ5t5G7p/Screenshot-2022-11-04-9-16-18-PM.png

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jeff Jarrett is insane if he’s going there to try and change things. He’s got the silver tongue, but he should just be going for the gold…that he can later resell.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m pretty sure Tyson is a Jericho vanity project though.

[screech]

Why didn't AEW advertise Mike Tyson for Rampage?

I swear they advertised it on dynamite last week (didn't watch this week's yet)

[slik]

someone on twitter said Excalibur said it while he was speed-reading the card but I honestly didn't catch it

[Mr. Nerfect]

Some AEW clip started playing before and Excalibur’s voice came on and he’s fucking horrible. I imagine a large portion of the audience tunes him out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE should respond by putting Tyson Kidd on Level Up commentary this week.

[screech]

Just watched Dynamite and they promoted Tyson appearing twice. About to start rampage rn

[screech]

Also, unpopular opinion: Kenny and the Bucks don't do anything for me and I don't miss them

[Fignuts]

I don't think its that unpopular.

[LibSuperstar]

I follow quite a few folks on Twitter who aren't too keen on Omega and the Bucks.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah I wouldn’t say it’s unpopular on here. Probably about 80% of posters here liked them 5 years ago. Now I’d say it’s probably like, a third of the posters we have left if that. With the Bucks probably still being considerably more disliked than Kenny.

I’m still a fan of them, Kenny especially. But I don’t need to see them every week, either.

[Fignuts]

Kenny hasn't shown me anything nearly as good as his work in japan besides the danielson match.

Likewise, the only time I've ever cared for the young bucks was the breif period they wrestled in the heavyweight tag division of njpw and actually slowed the fuck down enough to work a little bit instead of their usual spotfests.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They’ve always sucked. The Bucks were comedy when they tried to wrestle seriously in Japan. Omega was a product of the company. His faces have always been annoying and his matches overwrought.

[The Fraze]

Love Kenny, have always disliked The Bucks. Their theme is great, though.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I like Omega and enjoyed his heel run with Callis.

The Bucks are whatever.

[XL]

Can take ‘em or leave ‘em.

[xrodmuc316]

Remember that video game they spent $50 million on? Well apparently it is getting released as a free to play game on XBox Gamepass. AEW keeps RAKING in the money :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

That’s obviously because the game is so good that Microsoft just wants everybody to be able to play it.

[drave]

Remember that video game they spent $50 million on? Well apparently it is getting released as a free to play game on XBox Gamepass. AEW keeps RAKING in the money :rofl::rofl::rofl:


This isn't the diss you think it is.

[Destor]

Gamepass comes with a huge check from Microsoft.

[drave]

A big green one, for $14.99/month.




Take that Twitter!

[Jordan]

I really don't like AEW anymore. We're at the point where WWE was at a few years ago, the booking has no through line to the end. Stories don't matter, most things don't matter. It's very unstable creatively and I don't have the patience to sit through them trying to figure it out.

There are a hundred threads you can go on the describe why AEW sucks now, Cody leaving, too many hires, The Elite/Punk issues, the Elite issues in general, no follow through on big hires such as Miro, Allister, Andrade and that's just three from over a year ago now. You can site the failure of Hangman in becoming a top guy for CM Punk to get a failure of a title run, the use of terrible female talent, Vince Russo style booking with no substance.

Just really unbelievable what it's all gone down to. We're at Jeff Jarrett now.

Now understand, I do really like Jeff, he's a great talent and he's such a great guy, I love him on his podcast. It's a real eye opener on the business and his impact on it. But, AEW should have been better than this. There should have been a standard.

Perhaps if Jeff was someone they were working with a few years ago it would be different. But he's just been fired from WWE, released, whatever. He's just another WWE cast off slurped up by Tony's fandom.

I am kind of torn. Jarrett was awesome in the main event with Flair this summer. He can probably do some really good stuff still in the ring, his style is one of a kind at this point so he's going to really mesh well with about anyone in AEW. But it's just like a standard that I am having trouble accepting.


If Jeff is able to fill a void that perhaps Cody left, then sure I really do get this hire. He's got the most history of anyone in the business, in the business.

Really though to be honest, I'm just over AEW right now. Wednesday I may check it out at some point but I think that Sammy Guevara is wrestling Danielson and that sounds terrible to me.

Ethan Page vs Kingston could be good and could elevate Ethan Page but I have a feeling that this journey for Page isn't going to go the way Tony wants it to.

Ethan is getting a rub because he's MJF's buddy in real life. Page and MJF are actually almost the same person/character. There is very little that is different between them as performers, except that MJF is probably just a bit better, maybe not in the ring but as a character 100%.

I think MJF probably made sure that Ethan got a rub and a push as apart of his negotiations with Tony. It does seem that they are turning MJF face, and elevating Ethan to a top heel position. I just wonder if Ethan would be able to be WORSE a heel than MJF. It could be an interesting story if they can really get Ethan to a level where fans see him as an event bigger piece of shit than MJF ever was as a heel.

[drave]

Honestly, I'd love for the WWE games to do this, or have a god damn playable demo.


Last WWE Game I bought was the one with the Ric Flair collectibles, and I shelled out for the collectors edition. Never finished "showcase mode" (main "story mode") because it was fucking terrible. Can't recall if that's the one where you're CAW was called "buzz" because there was a "buzz about a new up and coming superstar". Terrible.

I've heard great things about WWE2K22 - but I will not spend more than $10 to buy it. If they released on Gamepass, it'd be wildly more successful because there's a massive cheaper barrier for entry AND you get "hands-on" experience.

[Jordan]

AEW on Gamepass is fantastic news for me. I likely would have never played it otherwise.

[drave]

I really don't like AEW anymore. We're at the point where WWE was at a few years ago, the booking has no through line to the end. Stories don't matter, most things don't matter. It's very unstable creatively and I don't have the patience to sit through them trying to figure it out.

There are a hundred threads you can go on the describe why AEW sucks now, Cody leaving, too many hires, The Elite/Punk issues, the Elite issues in general, no follow through on big hires such as Miro, Allister, Andrade and that's just three from over a year ago now. You can site the failure of Hangman in becoming a top guy for CM Punk to get a failure of a title run, the use of terrible female talent, Vince Russo style booking with no substance.

Just really unbelievable what it's all gone down to. We're at Jeff Jarrett now.

Now understand, I do really like Jeff, he's a great talent and he's such a great guy, I love him on his podcast. It's a real eye opener on the business and his impact on it. But, AEW should have been better than this. There should have been a standard.

Perhaps if Jeff was someone they were working with a few years ago it would be different. But he's just been fired from WWE, released, whatever. He's just another WWE cast off slurped up by Tony's fandom.

I am kind of torn. Jarrett was awesome in the main event with Flair this summer. He can probably do some really good stuff still in the ring, his style is one of a kind at this point so he's going to really mesh well with about anyone in AEW. But it's just like a standard that I am having trouble accepting.


If Jeff is able to fill a void that perhaps Cody left, then sure I really do get this hire. He's got the most history of anyone in the business, in the business.

Really though to be honest, I'm just over AEW right now. Wednesday I may check it out at some point but I think that Sammy Guevara is wrestling Danielson and that sounds terrible to me.

Ethan Page vs Kingston could be good and could elevate Ethan Page but I have a feeling that this journey for Page isn't going to go the way Tony wants it to.

Ethan is getting a rub because he's MJF's buddy in real life. Page and MJF are actually almost the same person/character. There is very little that is different between them as performers, except that MJF is probably just a bit better, maybe not in the ring but as a character 100%.

I think MJF probably made sure that Ethan got a rub and a push as apart of his negotiations with Tony. It does seem that they are turning MJF face, and elevating Ethan to a top heel position. I just wonder if Ethan would be able to be WORSE a heel than MJF. It could be an interesting story if they can really get Ethan to a level where fans see him as an event bigger piece of shit than MJF ever was as a heel.




They've always needed a "Jarrett" or someone with knowledge in the business. Jarrett CAN potentially make things better, but it will come down to how much TK will value and allow for input//control.


This "era", if you will, I believe will make or break AEW further than it already has.

[Jordan]

I have little faith from what we know of Tony that he will let anyone really have a voice on the product. I don't mean that the wrestlers don't get their own voice I just mean, another "Creative".

[Jordan]

Again not to say that I don't think guys like Jericho, Danielson, Mox, The Elite etc... don't get to do what they want I'm just talking about another person to have the power of yay or nay on things.

[drave]

AEW on Gamepass is fantastic news for me. I likely would have never played it otherwise.




Exactly this, now multiply it.


Honestly, I'm not a fiercely loyal interneckbeard who hates a company over whatever has transpired with AEW. Their game looks FUN and if it calls back to a similar play style of the N64 days, they will be successful. Gamers have more hand-holding than EVER with games, and a "simplifying" of the system will be a warm welcome for those who have only had WWE games to play for the last..... forever. PC gamers get FirePro, which Fignuts is the uWu Champion of, true story, but it doesn't carry the "mainstream" appeal a console wrestling game will have (insofar as wrestling can be mainstream).

[drave]

Can we please have more contoured meat flaps for our boy Jordan AEW?




Someone DM Nyla Rose for him.

[Jordan]

BTW very upset we never got the pay off big match with Chavo vs Nyla Rose. Bullshit.

[Evil Vito]

Ethan Page vs Kingston could be good and could elevate Ethan Page but I have a feeling that this journey for Page isn't going to go the way Tony wants it to.

Ethan is getting a rub because he's MJF's buddy in real life. Page and MJF are actually almost the same person/character. There is very little that is different between them as performers, except that MJF is probably just a bit better, maybe not in the ring but as a character 100%.

I think MJF probably made sure that Ethan got a rub and a push as apart of his negotiations with Tony. It does seem that they are turning MJF face, and elevating Ethan to a top heel position. I just wonder if Ethan would be able to be WORSE a heel than MJF. It could be an interesting story if they can really get Ethan to a level where fans see him as an event bigger piece of shit than MJF ever was as a heel.

Yeah the tournament bracket is incredibly easy to figure out as constructed.

I worry that large segments of the AEW crowd aren't mentally prepared for the reality of Page beating Eddie. Everyone is hung up on the idea of Eddie finally winning the big one and, truth is, if he ever actually does win it I'd assume he's dropping it back instantly. The whole thing with him is the chase will probably always be his story. So that makes him an easy foil for a heel in a tourney like this.

Page will then go over Bandido, still an unknown commodity to some of the AEW fanbase. Not much to say there, would probably be a solid showing for both. Could even have a sub-plot where Bandido says if he wins the tourney, he'd use it on the ROH Title instead. But we know he won't win.

And then Page goes over one more popular face in Starks, another guy fans are ready to see go to the "next level". Starks, at least, will have some protection in defeat because a big part of his journey would be that he had to go through 2 wars against big dudes Archer and Cage to get there, making him slightly easier pickings for Page.

I think much of the fans online believe Page has been underutilized and deserves a push. And so maybe the thinking is the best way to ensure he actually gets heel heat is to put him over 2 incredibly popular guys in Eddie and Starks. It'll get him heat sure, but will the heat be for Page or will it be for the office?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Guys, the game is a write-off. Accept it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Kingston’s chance to run the big one came and went with the interim stuff. Ethan Page should absolutely go over him as he’s been due for some much needed spotlight and a push.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Full Gear card looks fucking awful, even for an AEW card. Toni Storm isn’t very good, but I guess you could say her defending her fake championship against Jamie Hayter is at least something fresh. I wonder if MJF gets blamed for the buyrate?

He’s got one foot out the door already, having been casted in the Von Erich movie.

[drave]

Guys, the game is a write-off. Accept it.




I care about how it plays.

[Fignuts]

Guys, the game is a write-off. Accept it.

I don't think anyone cares. People are just pumped for what could be a good new wrestling game.

[ron the dial]

objectively you guys are INCORRECT try again

[xrodmuc316]

Again, it is not the fact that the game is on gamepass exactly, it is that for over a year they were overhyping how many copies they would sell, and turn a huge profit.

Then suddenly, we are supposed to believe AEW decided this was better? Microsoft paid $5 million to get a Marvel game on gamepass earlier this year. Are we to believe AEW demands a higher pricetag than a Marvel franchise?

What world are we living in :rofl:

[Destor]

Marvels Avenger was a failed game Square couldnt even give away. They had to sell all their US studios in an effort to recover their losses. Guardians also was a commercial failure for Square. These wouldnt be very pricey to get on gamepass a year + after launch in Avengers case and 6 month in Guardians case.

[Destor]

Clearly you're out of your depth on this one. This is becoming an industry norm as Microsoft tries to build its "netflix for gaming." Its great deal for developers at microsofts expense. Take the L on this one. Its a good deal.

[xrodmuc316]

Clearly you're out of your depth on this one. This is becoming an industry norm as Microsoft tries to build its "netflix for gaming." Its great deal for developers at microsofts expense. Take the L on this one. Its a good deal.

But that wasnt the business plan Omega and Tiny laid out. If this is the most profitable path, why was this never brought up as the goal?

[Fignuts]

But that wasnt the business plan Omega and Tiny laid out. If this is the most profitable path, why was this never brought up as the goal?

Why would it be?

[Destor]

You think they shouldve marketed a deal that hadnt been inked and couldnt have known would be on the table?

[xrodmuc316]

You think they shouldve marketed a deal that hadnt been inked and couldnt have known would be on the table?

We are not talking about marketing, we are talking about nothing ever being truthful from them. If the intention is to sell as many copies as possible, then why woukd they eliminate the biggest set of gamers, the one's that already subscriber to game pass, and would save $60.00.

How big is the potential customer base for this game, and a better question would be what percentage of those potential customers are subscribers to game pass?

That to me says they don't have confidence they will make their investment back, that there is not as much demand as they sold Shad on, and are just trying to recoup whatever they can.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh gosh…

[Destor]

More people will be play this game since its on game pass. It will make more money since its on game pass.

[Destor]

Microsoft is trying to walmart the gaming the industry. Theyre paying over market prices to shrink competition market shares. Its an aggressive strategy that they can afford and in 15 years will probably win out. I get you want to dunk on aew. You dont know enough about this topic to talk about it. Just let this one be.

[Destor]

And as far a non game pass users: its not game pass exclusive. You can still buy this outside of gamepass. You can still get it on non Microsoft platforms

[Destor]

And it should be noted this is an if. If purely rumor this is going to gamepass. But if it does its good for them not bad

[Destor]

Im not trying to shit on you. This is a bad take.

[slik]

MJF has joined the cast of the Von Erich biopic in an undisclosed role


https://deadline.com/2022/11/the-iron-claw-a24-film-adds-pro-wrestler-maxwell-jacob-friedman-1235166702/

[Destor]

Given how short sctors are this will be the biggest mjf has ever looked

[Fignuts]

We are not talking about marketing, we are talking about nothing ever being truthful from them. If the intention is to sell as many copies as possible, then why woukd they eliminate the biggest set of gamers, the one's that already subscriber to game pass, and would save $60.00.

How big is the potential customer base for this game, and a better question would be what percentage of those potential customers are subscribers to game pass?

That to me says they don't have confidence they will make their investment back, that there is not as much demand as they sold Shad on, and are just trying to recoup whatever they can.


Because none of that matters? It's entirely possible they wanted to get it onto gamepass from the start. But no developer ever publically announces "By the way everyone, we'd really like for this to be on gamepass".

You never talk about things during development that aren't 100% set in stone. If you don't believe me, ask Sean Murray how that worked out for him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

GamePass is obviously a marketing strategy from Microsoft, but you’ve got to get a good chunk of money back, or recoup it somehow. You might get away with taking an L if it builds awareness for you.

This wasn’t going to do that. The game has been in production for over 3 years, has seen a change of head developer and basically had the team come out and apologize before it even hits market. I don’t know if I believe the $80 million number, but I do believe the story that it is severely over budget with no realistic way to make money back.

It isn’t going to GamePass anyway. It’s going to bomb in stores.

[Fignuts]

It's a niche game in a niche genre, so unless it did well while having a super low budget, it was always going to lose money.

It was more of a passion project from the start. With the heavy inspiration from the n64 era games, I would think it's also intended to get more people interested in AEW as well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Are you all going to admit it when it sucks? Omega has designed The Homer.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know people are nostalgic for WWF No Mercy. When it came out, it was cutting edge. It pushed the N64 as far as it could go with wrestling games. It had an impressively comprehensive roster and fleshed out their movesets. It was also cooler to play with your friends because wrestling was hot.

Those circumstances aren’t replicable. The N64 is not cutting edge technology anymore. Wrestling is less popular than its ever been. The roster is not comprehensive. It’s likely going to be years out of date. Hell, the guy on the cover joined the company two years into development and is already gone before release. The commands might be similar to what you liked, but it’s going to feel outmoded and clunky compared to how guys work in 2022. Each guy has 8 basic moves? Each guy does more than that every match they have.

The answer to chasing this dragon isn’t a mini-game where you input button commands to get your character’s avatar to do the YMCA ffs. If you’ve got room to do that, put some more effort into your fucking roster.

You can’t even replicate the Stadium Stampede match if you wanted to. Over half Jericho’s team isn’t in the game.

[drave]

It was fun and simple to play. Everything else is hard reaching to justify a poor take on something because of an association with AEW.


if I do play it and it sucks, I'll be the first to admit it, because of it being a bad game.




I would love for WWE to put one of their new games on GamePass. If it played well, I'd buy it. But no playable demo, no $$$$. It'll be the same for this game, GamePass or no.

[weather vane]

SASHA BANKS TROLLING

[Sepholio]

TK says dynamite is gonna be super exciting and newsworthy tonight! IM SUPER HYPED OMG

[ron the dial]

why does anybody even read what that pud says anymore? it's worthless.

[ron the dial]

although i guess i don't really look at much wrestling stuff in general away from this site because i am not a complete masochist

[ron the dial]

but yeah woooooo super exicted for dynamite let's go wooooooo hope i make it home in time this week yay wooooooooooo

[ron the dial]

sorry guys just bored and killing time at work trying not to go hit on my boss on destor's advice

[Sepholio]

As your dark side I encourage you to DEW IT.

[Destor]

GamePass is obviously a marketing strategy from Microsoft, but you’ve got to get a good chunk of money back, or recoup it somehow. You might get away with taking an L if it builds awareness for you.

This wasn’t going to do that. The game has been in production for over 3 years, has seen a change of head developer and basically had the team come out and apologize before it even hits market. I don’t know if I believe the $80 million number, but I do believe the story that it is severely over budget with no realistic way to make money back.

It isn’t going to GamePass anyway. It’s going to bomb in stores.3 years is less than the average dev cycle

[Sepholio]

Not really though. I may be your (something, something, something) dark side but I don't want to end up cancelled or on a registry.

[Sepholio]

damnit Destor. Post blocking is one thing, but post blocking me to respond to Noid? UNFORGIVEABLE.

[slik]

Hmmmm who could this be


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Okay, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrideMask?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BrideMask</a>... we'll shut up and dance with you! �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMaskedSinger?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheMaskedSinger</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/maskverse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@maskverse</a> <a href="https://t.co/D5m5ytSeJx">pic.twitter.com/D5m5ytSeJx</a></p>&mdash; The Masked Singer (@MaskedSingerFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaskedSingerFOX/status/1590434309672140800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ClockShot]

Masked singer must really be desperate if they're starting to recruit actual singers.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait, so the AEW game isn’t even going to be on Gamepass for free anyways?

Good heavens…

[xrodmuc316]

TK says dynamite is gonna be super exciting and newsworthy tonight! IM SUPER HYPED OMG

There was nothing newsworthy, like at all :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Hmmmm who could this be


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Okay, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrideMask?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BrideMask</a>... we'll shut up and dance with you! �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMaskedSinger?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheMaskedSinger</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/maskverse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@maskverse</a> <a href="https://t.co/D5m5ytSeJx">pic.twitter.com/D5m5ytSeJx</a></p>&mdash; The Masked Singer (@MaskedSingerFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaskedSingerFOX/status/1590434309672140800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Do they usually not disguise their voice at all?

Also, do they usually have professional singers on the show? Imagine if he loses a singing competition to Martha Stewart or something.

[Fignuts]

If they did, you wouldnt be able to guess who it is

[#1-norm-fan]

Well, I know they give hints.

[Fignuts]

I don't watch it, but I imagine its more fun to guess based on the voice during the song.

Otherwise whats the point?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hmmmm who could this be


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Okay, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrideMask?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BrideMask</a>... we'll shut up and dance with you! �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMaskedSinger?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheMaskedSinger</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/maskverse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@maskverse</a> <a href="https://t.co/D5m5ytSeJx">pic.twitter.com/D5m5ytSeJx</a></p>&mdash; The Masked Singer (@MaskedSingerFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaskedSingerFOX/status/1590434309672140800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dick Valentine from Electric Six?

[Sepholio]

lol, go listen to the clues that character gave in their little hint interview or whatever. Said he has smashed a rock. A globe with a crown was held up. Said he has a rugged personality and lives on the road selling out arenas. He has an appetite for destroying things. Notorious for being in some of the messiest feuds. One of the extras then holds a gold oval with music notes on it over his waist like a belt buckle. Oh and the last clue was a goat wearing a medal around its neck that said ACTION HERO.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s going to be hilarious if he’s revealed as “Former WWE Superstar” Chris Jericho.

[Evil Vito]

Ethan Page's Twitter has been hacked and the asshole who did it is posting the most awful shit.

Unfortunately, probably gonna be a recurring theme in the new Twitter world.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, Saraya posted her medical certificate online and the place got her birth year wrong.

It also didn’t have a date of issue.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope she doesn’t get crippled in an AEW ring.

[Sepholio]

Philadelphia Brooks is back to commentating MMA.

[#1-norm-fan]

Just when xrod has become too weakened by tatters to masturbate. What a cruel world. ;):rofl::rofl::rofl::shifty::love:

[drave]

Philadelphia Brooks is back to commentating MMA.




lol though. What's he gonna say?




"He needs to duck, shuck and jive to get outta the way of strikes. Don't be a tough guy like me and show the world how to get punched in the face professionally, and then cry."


or something. It's pathetic, really. Imagine the worst WWE superstar of all time getting a commentary deal.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don’t know, man. That example you just gave seems like good analysis.

[drave]

Is it though?


It's like the later years of Madden.



"You wanna get the football to the other end of the filed and score more points than the other team! BOOM! TURDUCKEN!"

[Sepholio]

damnit now i have "BOOM! TOUGH ACTIN' TINACTIN!" stuck in my head.

[Evil Vito]

Was generally too lazy to pick the defensive plays so I just used Ask Madden every play

"BOOM! This defense will stop 'em for sure"

[xrodmuc316]

lol though. What's he gonna say?




"He needs to duck, shuck and jive to get outta the way of strikes. Don't be a tough guy like me and show the world how to get punched in the face professionally, and then cry."


or something. It's pathetic, really. Imagine the worst WWE superstar of all time getting a commentary deal.

"Oh man that guy is getting his face pummeled, that is called the CM Punk defense"

[xrodmuc316]

Lol, Saraya posted her medical certificate online and the place got her birth year wrong.

It also didn’t have a date of issue.

LOL she made that in Microsoft Paint :rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve gotten more thorough clearances to return to work after a cold.

[Jordan]

The Full Gear PPV card SUCKS.

[xrodmuc316]

The Full Gear PPV card SUCKS.

How DARE you question Booker of the Year Tiny Khan???? He got Saraya and forced Malakai Black to come back! #freeAli #fedbad

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Full Gear PPV card SUCKS.

It’s so bad that I think it could be done on purpose to sabotage MJF.

[Sepholio]

11/25 Rampage getting the 4pm EST timeslot because Hockey and stuff.

That sounds like a terrible timeslot.

[drave]

Less fucky than the 10PM slot already innit?

[Evil Vito]

Most Americans are off work that Friday so it's probably less bad than a normal Friday, but it's still not great.

[drave]

Just learned that we are NOT off on Friday this year. Seems dumb. The majority of staff will just schedule PTO, there will be change freezes and stocks don't trade.......




Another stupid ass social construct we are expected to follow.

[Evil Vito]

I've only worked at one company that was open on Black Friday. I had to go in because I was too new to accrue time off, but the place was an absolute ghost town. Even the lab where the manufacturers were. Felt like a big waste of time.

Every other place has had it as a day off, usually in exchange for not having off Veterans Day. Hell this year my place gave up Columbus Day in order to have the Wednesday before Thanksgiving off too. 5 day weekend? Hell yeah.

[Evil Vito]

I really can't see how Saraya's return match is going to be anything but underwhelming.

She was good, to a given value of "good", when expectations were much lower and women's wrestling on TV wasn't treated as anything more than a piss break.

She's apparently admitted to not watching AEW, and parts of her promo at Britt seemed to basically say that she's never achieved anything and isn't good enough to carry a division, which is akin to CM Punk at the All Out press conference burying Hangman Page (and AEW by association) by saying that a former world champion had "never done anything in this business".

That, to me, tells me that she's going to walk in and be, at best, the level she was at when she retired, and expect plaudits and praise only to be frustrated when she doesn't get it. I don't think she realized that mainstream women's wrestling in the US has moved on leaps and bounds she was last in the ring, and that expectations are higher.

She can't afford to be as good as she actually was, she has to be as good as people remember her being.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Britt isn’t exactly a ring general either. But they needed a marquee match for Saraya returning and Britt was it. I expect it to be a decent match. Depending on where it’s placed on the card the crowd might help elevate it.

[xrodmuc316]

I don't trust Saraya to work safe in regards to her own health. She is the female Bryan Danielson. How long before she is injured off camera in a stupid 10 person Stadium Stampede or Anarchy in the Arena match?

We already know Tiny does not have the stones to say no to one of his wrestling toys.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He got crickets ��<a href="https://t.co/cuPkkzRjHi">pic.twitter.com/cuPkkzRjHi</a></p>&mdash; ��������™ of Burial Squad ☝️ (@TheEnduringIcon) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheEnduringIcon/status/1591966352427851776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Paige wasn’t very good, you guys. The meltdowns will probably be more entertaining than the match. I just hope it doesn’t backfire in a way where someone gets crippled.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He got crickets ��<a href="https://t.co/cuPkkzRjHi">pic.twitter.com/cuPkkzRjHi</a></p>&mdash; ��������™ of Burial Squad ☝️ (@TheEnduringIcon) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheEnduringIcon/status/1591966352427851776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How embarrassing? Wasn’t this the guy ripping on Andrade for not getting over? Wasn’t he supposed to be a babyface a few weeks back before the fans totally shat on him?

He sucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So I heard the Saraya promo from Dynamite. She’s obviously trying to appeal to smarks. Jokes about the AEW product aside, this is probably not the best approach. She ends up fighting with these people all the time on social media. They’re the sort of people who know she never wrestled in the Tokyo Dome.

She talks about how hard she’s worked all over the place because she loves it. She’s not fucking Chris Benoit or Eddie Guerrero. She’s not going to get over on that or because of her work. She isn’t very good lol.

It also makes a horrible promo for a casual fan. She just rattled off a bunch of angry shit and some places or events (you’d presume). She’s using jargon that doesn’t mean anything to your average person, and also buried the company just like Adam Page or CM Punk did.

I’m worried she’s fried her brain either because of drugs or trauma.

[Mr. JL]

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=nathan+downer+mike+tyson&&view=detail&mid=A6C8BB5BF2B3F2020916A6C8BB5BF2B3F2020916&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dnathan%2Bdowner%2Bmike%2Btyson%26qpvt%3Dnathan%2Bdowner%2Bmike%2Btyson%2 6FORM%3DVDRE

I'll just leave this here because I quite frankly have always found AEW's continued use of Mike Tyson to be disgusting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Chris Jericho does it to make himself feel important.

[slik]

huh


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You just gave away the results from the upcoming MOx Vs MJF. Good job clown</p>&mdash; Ed Cova (@EdCova84) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdCova84/status/1591866894377971712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

Unable to see that post.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wasn’t aware people cared about the result of Moxley vs. MJF.

[ron the dial]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[drave]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Meltzer is at it again. He’s reporting that many in the WWE don’t want CM Punk back because “they know what happened in AEW.” Hmm. Odd. Because we still haven’t had an actual thing pointed out to us as to why CM Punk had heat backstage. Dave even got choked up talking about it and basically stooged off off there was nothing Punk did.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When’s Jeff Jarrett taking over this company?

[xrodmuc316]

Meltzer is at it again. He’s reporting that many in the WWE don’t want CM Punk back because “they know what happened in AEW.” Hmm. Odd. Because we still haven’t had an actual thing pointed out to us as to why CM Punk had heat backstage. Dave even got choked up talking about it and basically stooged off off there was nothing Punk did.

Because he is a bitter Prick. That is not some big industry secret.

[Evil Vito]

Dynamite in Bridgeport tonight. As of today they had sold just under 3,000 tickets. Their first show there in February sold just under 6,000.

Doubtful that there will be much movement in terms of day-of ticket sales. Not with that card they've announced.

Tons of open seats in the middle camera side section, because they cost like $90 and after Ticketmaster fees it's probably like $150. That's just not justifiable for this card. Glad I'm staying home.

[Evil Vito]

Oh and also traffic was an absolute nightmare going into the arena last time they were here. I got caught in it but managed to still get into the lot and in my seat a few minutes before Dark at 7 PM. Tons of people couldn't get into the arena until well after Dynamite has already started.

Definitely the kind of thing that would make people swear off ever wanting to go again. Add in that the product is clearly not hot now and yeah. Not a great look.

[ron the dial]

i have absolutely no desire to watch tonight. my buddy is canceling his sling account (i use his login to watch pretty much AEW only), and i don't think i really even care to find another way to watch it. youtube clips will probably do for the time being. they just aren't doing anything that i really care enough about to start paying more for it through some service i don't already have.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW is great, guys. Don’t give up hope.

[Evil Vito]

i have absolutely no desire to watch tonight. my buddy is canceling his sling account (i use his login to watch pretty much AEW only), and i don't think i really even care to find another way to watch it. youtube clips will probably do for the time being. they just aren't doing anything that i really care enough about to start paying more for it through some service i don't already have.

Yeah, the matches tonight are a big nothing. AEW are advertising four separate promos tonight (Mox, MJF, Samoa Joe, and Saraya/Britt). Which I mean, yeah, on a go-home show it isn't surprising. But for that same reason it's tough to imagine anything transpiring that I couldn't very easily find on YouTube, AEW's social media page isn't exactly afraid to post full segments when it suits them

Ditto for the Elite's return I assume is happening either tonight or Saturday. AEW will obviously post it, there's not much need for me to sit in front of my TV to catch it in realtime.

[ron the dial]

the only downside is not watching it live with y'all but being back in the office on wednesdays means i won't always be home in time anyway. oh well.

[Evil Vito]

I've ordered every AEW PPV and have had no regrets. They've all delivered IMO, and considering I share the account and split the costs it's been even more of a no-brainer to keep it going.

I'm still getting Full Gear as I feel like the show itself will be good. I can see some belters on here, and see it being a card that overdelivers on expectations the fans now have after a lousy build.

But the fact it has a lousy build at all is a big problem. If I weren't splitting costs this would likely be the first AEW PPV I'd completely skip. Even though I think the show could overdeliver, that wouldn't be enough for me to fork over $50. And I assume there's a bunch of people in that boat who are skipping accordingly. Wouldn't be a surprise if they draw their lowest buy rate of the year.

[ron the dial]

yeah i usually get together with friends and we all split the cost so it's pretty cheap, but no one can get together this weekend and i'm pretty sure i'm not dropping like $60 on this card.

[ron the dial]

and at this point in the game any member of the elite coming back doesn't move the needle for me. i only want kenny back for more callis. the bucks can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

[rez]

AEW is great, guys. Don’t give up hope.

Hey! You'd know. You post about AEW more than anyone here :yes:

[weather vane]

I will watch tonight and this weekend and next week and forever and ever. Amen.

[rez]

amen, brotha

[xrodmuc316]

No matter how many people do or do not buy tickets or do or do not order the PPVs, Tiny will still say it was the best most successful show ever, and also that Warner Discovery love him, and that he is not just a weirdo with a rich daddy.

[rez]

Tiny envy. it's real and you have it :yes:

[xrodmuc316]

Tiny envy. it's real and you have it :yes:

I do wish I had a Billionaire to leech off of, that is very real lol

[Evil Vito]

More info on the game dropping on Saturday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhxrhbiWIAELYVW?format=jpg&name=large

This looks fucking fun.

[Stu Hart]

queer wrestling moments

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/p68w3BESrEA" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[ron the dial]

oh it's all queer bud

[#1-norm-fan]

That video should just be a link to subscribe to Peacock.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Someone came to me with this crazy theory. They think Chris Jericho is trying to sabotage MJF. Yeah *as if* the GOAT has a shred of insecurity. They said Bryan Alvarez stooged it off this week. They said Bryan talks to Jericho and when Bryan said “MJF might turn face for a while” that he tipped the plan is for MJF to turn, it not work, then turn back.

But why would AEW do that to MJF? Do you think guys like Jericho want to work any less hard when they’re getting paid millions and have worked hard for 30+ years? HIGHLY UNLIKELY!

[xrodmuc316]

More info on the game dropping on Saturday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhxrhbiWIAELYVW?format=jpg&name=large

This looks fucking fun.

Why are there mushrooms growing from the mat??? :rofl:

[Lock Jaw]

Wont's somebody please think of the children? Smh @ that video game :nono:

[Vastardikai]

More info on the game dropping on Saturday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhxrhbiWIAELYVW?format=jpg&name=large

This looks fucking fun.

My favorite part is that it's Britt pinning Rosa.

[Evil Vito]

There's a billion things you can do with an MJF title run and time shouldn't be a concern because I suspect he's going to hold the title for at least a year. Even if he's booked as a face at the beginning of his run, I fully expect that by this time next year MJF will be back to being the biggest heel in the company and continually threatening to walk out the door with the title.

He's flatly denied the rumors that he's secretly signed an extension. I mean, in sports there are deals reported as extensions but really it's just the team ripping up an old contract and replacing it with a brand new, more lucrative long-term deal. Maybe this is actually what happened, maybe it isn't. It's not like MJF is going to say anything either way, and the company won't either since there's meat on the bone to make an angle of the "bidding war of 2024".

[#1-norm-fan]

A couple months ago, MJF getting a run and then dropping it to Wardlow to build up your homegrown superhero mega face seemed like the obvious way to go.

I haven’t been watching but I know Wardlow has cooled off. I don’t know how you handle that situation now. You’ve got a homegrown heel you can build the company around and a homegrown face you can build a company around but both feel like they need the title ASAP for different reasons.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wont's somebody please think of the children? Smh @ that video game :nono:

It’s a good thing no children care about this game.

[Sting Fan]

Trios match is gonna rock at the PPV, super excited to have Kenny and the Bucks back.

Im super intrigued by the TNT title match, theres no outcome that would surprise me I dont think but Wardlow retaining would make sense... Hobbs as champion is probably the right call in my mind. So long as Joe doesnt win I'm into it really.

The MJF winning outcome seems very pre determined. Are we sure Regal isnt turning? All this devil doesnt exist stuff with Regal knee deep in it all and Mox probably going on sabbatical after. Feels like theres something there to me with the gentleman villan and as much as MJF doesnt need someone to do his speaking I wouldnt hate it.

MJF vs. Darby for the title will be an absolute banger of a match/series and if Regal does turn Sting and Regal shenanigans will be gold as well. I really hope that move from MJF to someone else isnt hugely telegraphed but if he gets the big run everyone expects I guess it will be. I want an unexpected champion so bad. Penta preferably.

[Evil Vito]

Bowens' arm is in a sling now.

I guess if he's not cleared they could always Freebird it and have Daddy Ass in there.

[Seanny One Ball]

Trying to watch this as “background TV” while I read and I have only looked up three times.

Once for an awful, incredibly long rap song that sucked big ass.
Once because I heard a Geordie accent and I needed to know why.
Lastly because a guy came to the ring and called the audience “basic bitches” or something similar.

Terrible.

[Seanny One Ball]

I remember this one time we were taping the local rassling fed for TV, and they had a cage match. It took them forever to put it together. They had one guy with a screwdriver. Eventually they came to us and asked if we had another screwdriver.

Like, WTF... you knew you had to put together a cage tonight, prepare and bring a drill or something.



Funny ass imagery in this old post

[Lock Jaw]

We still laugh about that one

[Seanny One Ball]

Somebody got carpal tunnel that day

[Lock Jaw]

Was fun taping those shows... miss that... the fed closed down/merged with a bigger fed... Was fun taping the matches and taping all the "backstage shenanigans" and promos... can only imagine how much better we would do at it now....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Did anyone catch the latest Brian Last clue re: Kenny Omega’s backstage issues?

[Fignuts]

More info on the game dropping on Saturday.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhxrhbiWIAELYVW?format=jpg&name=large

This looks fucking fun.

Was there any more info other than the 1 minute trailer? Cause if not, thats kinda lame.

Cool that thumbtacks actually stick to people though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was there any more info other than the 1 minute trailer? Cause if not, thats kinda lame.

Cool that thumbtacks actually stick to people though.

To be fair, I don’t think this is the actual teased reveal. More info is coming later today.

To also be fair, the game looks fucking gross and development has been a nightmare. It’s going to suck.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m pumped for Gull Fear! I wonder if there are going to be any surprises? Bow Wow to confront Jade?

[Mr. Nerfect]

People are not going to like this take, but…

The Acclaimed don’t seem to be very good. They’re over in front of that crowd and there is potential there. They’re “blue chippers,” but the act is pretty lame and them being so over is an indictment of where everything else is. Billy Gunn being so over is further evidence of that.

The same goes with MJF being a babyface.

This reminds me of when people would crow about R-Truth being one of the best things about WWE — there’s a bit of a problem there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW keeps signing wrestlers. Konosuke Takeshita is All Elite. It’s a pretty good gig for a guy from Japan to get. He works a couple of times a month — once in front of people — gets paid a truck of money.

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who's hungry? 😅😳 <a href="https://t.co/5Zw9beqrpy">pic.twitter.com/5Zw9beqrpy</a></p>&mdash; B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1594065632508534784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMFAO the Khan's cant even afford to keep their stadium UNDER 129 violations!

Guess Shad let Tiny waste too much money on failed MMA fighters and FEDBADers to keep their diehards from utter SHAMBLES :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[xrodmuc316]

https://i.imgflip.com/70bgih.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

If it was 129 rodents, I’d say it sounds like the AEW locker room.

[Fignuts]

To be fair, I don’t think this is the actual teased reveal. More info is coming later today.

To also be fair, the game looks fucking gross and development has been a nightmare. It’s going to suck.

No more info csme today.

[Mr. Nerfect]

No more info csme today.

I thought I read it was supposed to come “during Full Gear.” I don’t know. I’m happy to call them all dirty liars and remind people the game is going to be a disaster.

[Fignuts]

I'm rooting for it not to be. Good wrestling games are very few and far between these days.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m just trying to mentally prepare people.

[ron the dial]

the lord's work being done by noid

[Mr. Nerfect]

Where is the lie?

[Lock Jaw]

Technically it is just speculation until the game actually comes out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Technically it is just speculation until the game actually comes out.

If the game is great, I’ll be very happy for people. But I think the people expecting WWF No Mercy are going to be sorely disappointed.

[Fignuts]

Given the sheer amount of games that have referenced no mercy during development and turned out to be dogshit, I don't think anyone is fully comitted to the idea that its going to be great.

But videos we've seen of the gameplay, and how it looks in motion, has got people hoping that they've managed to pull it off. Nothing is certain until we get it in our hands ourselves though.

[Destor]

The team working on this worked on DoR2. Im not worried.

[Destor]

Aew =/= yukes. WCW Revenge was outstanding. The next year the same team released WM 2000. company logos dont matter.

[Fignuts]

The team working on this worked on DoR2. Im not worried.

Is it though? Yukes is a big company and we're talking 20 years ago. I doubt a lot of the people that worked on DOR 2 are still even there.

DOR 2 is tits though, for sure.

[Destor]

The director is Iwashita (Revenge/No Mercy) the lead designer is Katsumata (DoR2)

[Fignuts]

Oh, well shit. That is promising.

[Destor]

"Team" is certainly not every person but the key figures have made some of the best wrestling games ever made not named Fire Pro or Wrestle Kingdom

[Fignuts]

Hopefully those guys werent just interns or something when those games were made.

[Destor]

I wish it had another year in the can to get a full 4 year dev cycle though. Its a new engine after all. That said if theyre running off the blueprints of those two games (mechanically they're basically the same game at their core) then you dont need the full time in theory. You already know what works you just have to develop it.

[Destor]

Hopefully those guys werent just interns or something when those games were made.
No its the same roles they were in at the time. Its no mercy director. Its dor2s lead designer.

[Fignuts]

Wrestle Kingdom 2 is so good. Wish it would of come over here. I only played it for a little while on my modded ps2 when it bit the dust.

[Fignuts]

No its the same roles they were in at the time. Its no mercy director. Its dor2s lead designer.

STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME HOPEFUL

My heart can't take another Pro Wrestling X.

[Destor]

Fight Forever could easily be the best wrestling game since the gamecube.

[Destor]

Basically if they fuck this up it will be an embarrassment beyond reason. They have the talent.

[Destor]

But it being brought to market in only 3 years is worrying

[Destor]

I expect it will be rough around the edges. But so was world tour and look how good revenge was... if this is a good 1st draft maybe FF2 nails it. Most fighting games hit their stride mechanically in their sequels nearly universally.

[Destor]

Point is there's a lot to jazzed about. Yukes finally has a wrestling license again. Skys the limit.

[Lock Jaw]

I don't know, Noid told me it's gonna suck.

[Destor]

Should be noted though theyre literally using an updated version of the aki engine so even saying "its a new engine" is going too far

[Destor]

I don't know, Noid told me it's gonna suck.its sales sucking is far more likely than the game sucking

[Fignuts]

If the rumors of what they spent on it are true, its going to be a loss.

WWE games are niche. This is much more so.

[Destor]

Making games aint cheap thats for damn sure. There's a reason they stopped making movie tie in games and middle-ware in general. All the lower A tier companies are looking to sell. The risk is crazy high. If AEW made a mistake it was developing a video game to begin with. Its a rough market with extreme risk.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They’re also severely over budget even for a game.

You make fine points Destor, but it’s not 2000 anymore. Yukes are developing a game that has to fit old systems. They’re also doing it to the direction of a fan and someone who has no prior experience with game development.

The roster is going to be extremely limited and out of date. That feeling of “Wow! I get to play as (insert person here)” is not going to be there. Almost everyone is going to have a favorite that doesn’t make the cut. Their move sets are also going to likely be limited compared to how they actually wrestle.

The Yukes games in the 90’s and 00’s pushed wrestling games forward. These ones are chasing that time. It’s a big artistic difference.

[Fignuts]

The roster of every wrestling game is out of date. They cut off roster additions months before release. Thats just how they're made.

I don't know why you think movesets will be limited. Do you know something we don't?

[Mr. Nerfect]

The roster of every wrestling game is out of date. They cut off roster additions months before release. Thats just how they're made.

I don't know why you think movesets will be limited. Do you know something we don't?

Every modern game has an out of date roster. Fight Forever has about 50 wrestlers — many of whom were in the company from basically day dot.

Didn’t they come out and confirm that wrestlers will have a strong grab and a weak grab and basically 4 moves that come from that? Who wrestles like that in AEW?

[Fignuts]

You don't play a lot of wrestling games do you? Most games have a weak/strong grab system, including the ones fight forever is influenced by. Weak grapples are early match moves like headlocks and arm drags and strong grapples give you your powerbombs and superkicks.

[Destor]

They’re also severely over budget even for a game.

You make fine points Destor, but it’s not 2000 anymore. Yukes are developing a game that has to fit old systems. They’re also doing it to the direction of a fan and someone who has no prior experience with game development.

The roster is going to be extremely limited and out of date. That feeling of “Wow! I get to play as (insert person here)” is not going to be there. Almost everyone is going to have a favorite that doesn’t make the cut. Their move sets are also going to likely be limited compared to how they actually wrestle.

The Yukes games in the 90’s and 00’s pushed wrestling games forward. These ones are chasing that time. It’s a big artistic difference.the retro market is huge right now. Making 90s throwback games is very common and very in vogue

[Wehttam]

nerf thinks he is shitting on aew, but is just bringing up problems with all wrestling games.

[Evil Vito]

Noid getting clowned by people who actually know about video games is just the sweetener I needed for my coffee this morning.

[xrodmuc316]

This has turned into another classic AEW argument. The game being good is not even the issue. It's another thing like the TV rights deal, where people who are Pro AEW are greatly overestimating how profitable the game will be. AEW's entire existence has been "oh they are about to be making SOOOOOO much money, LFG!!!" and any other outcome is just stupid people who do not understand anything.

No Mercy sold over 1 million copies at a time 10 million people were watching wrestling weekly. Yes there had to be some crossover of people who bought that didnt watch wrestling, but in the overall scenario probably not a statistical significance.

What is honestly a good projection for sales? I am fairly confident it wont be this giant windfall of profits AEW likes to pretend it will be, but really what is the likely number willing to buy the game?

[Mr. Nerfect]

You don't play a lot of wrestling games do you? Most games have a weak/strong grab system, including the ones fight forever is influenced by. Weak grapples are early match moves like headlocks and arm drags and strong grapples give you your powerbombs and superkicks.

Lol, I’m not saying that other games haven’t used it. I’m saying that it isn’t going to be reflective of how people wrestle in AEW. I’m pretty sure they’ve come out and said that each wrestler is going to have something like 8 moves from their basic grapples. Who even grapples in AEW?

[Mr. Nerfect]

the retro market is huge right now. Making 90s throwback games is very common and very in vogue

Those are two different things. You can make a game that envokes nostalgia or you can make a game that is 25 years out of date.

[Mr. Nerfect]

nerf thinks he is shitting on aew, but is just bringing up problems with all wrestling games.

Is this aimed at me? I don’t know who nerf is. Something being as horrible as something else doesn’t make it not horrible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Noid getting clowned by people who actually know about video games is just the sweetener I needed for my coffee this morning.

Lol if only you knew. The only sweetener you require are panties to sniff, you insecure perv.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This has turned into another classic AEW argument. The game being good is not even the issue. It's another thing like the TV rights deal, where people who are Pro AEW are greatly overestimating how profitable the game will be. AEW's entire existence has been "oh they are about to be making SOOOOOO much money, LFG!!!" and any other outcome is just stupid people who do not understand anything.

No Mercy sold over 1 million copies at a time 10 million people were watching wrestling weekly. Yes there had to be some crossover of people who bought that didnt watch wrestling, but in the overall scenario probably not a statistical significance.

What is honestly a good projection for sales? I am fairly confident it wont be this giant windfall of profits AEW likes to pretend it will be, but really what is the likely number willing to buy the game?

The game is going to suck dude. I’m sure a few people will lie and try and pretend they’re having fun with it, but people who have been paying attention will have noticed a lot of red flags.

To be fair, most people are distancing themselves from the idea of this game being profitable. It’s just a nice thing the company is doing because they care. The new line is that fans just want the game is fun to play. There is some “at least it’s not 2k!” It’s the last rung to grab on the way down and people will hold onto it for as long as they can.

Projection for sales is 3.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There’s more AEW backstage drama:

Jungle Boy did the predictable thing and tried to mock CM Punk at the media scrum (you knew some unimaginative fuck would try and do it on behalf of The Elite). Colten Gunn then commented on a photo of JB saying the kid wants to be a Gunn so bad. JB then said he’d rather be booked for the PPV. Gunn said that if he changed with The Bucks and stayed up to 6am partying with the boss he might.

That damn CM Punk still causing problems. At least this one implying Tony Khan has a problem is probably just a work to make the company look bad.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The thing that gets me is that AEW apologists (who have immediately gone after The Gunns of course) are claiming nepotism being the only reason they got there. Lots of “they’re only there because they’re Billy kids.” Um…Jack Perry? Never mind that The Gunns have earned their stripes and being the son of Billy Gunn isn’t exactly going to be the red carpet AEW marks are making it out to be. It might get you a look, but assumptions might be that you are automatically horrible lol.

[XL]

This has turned into another classic AEW argument. The game being good is not even the issue. It's another thing like the TV rights deal, where people who are Pro AEW are greatly overestimating how profitable the game will be. AEW's entire existence has been "oh they are about to be making SOOOOOO much money, LFG!!!" and any other outcome is just stupid people who do not understand anything.

No Mercy sold over 1 million copies at a time 10 million people were watching wrestling weekly. Yes there had to be some crossover of people who bought that didnt watch wrestling, but in the overall scenario probably not a statistical significance.

What is honestly a good projection for sales? I am fairly confident it wont be this giant windfall of profits AEW likes to pretend it will be, but really what is the likely number willing to buy the game?

Only nobody here is talking about the game being profitable in the way you’re describing. Barely talking about sales full stop.

[Evil Vito]

Only nobody here is talking about the game being profitable in the way you’re describing. Barely talking about sales full stop.

I just want a good, fun wrestling game and I'm pretty sure most of the people here interested in the game are the same way.

The company's bottom line on the project means little to me. The game's profitability only matters to me in the sense that if I like the game, I'd want it to do well so it can receive a sequel or at least continued support.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Only nobody here is talking about the game being profitable in the way you’re describing. Barely talking about sales full stop.

That’s quietened down, but it was definitely around. People want the sun to shine out of this company’s ass.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I get the want, but then there’s denial.