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[#1-norm-fan]

Chyna is as much a celebrity as Snooki or Paris Hilton

Both mainstream celebrities.

Thank you for proving my point.

[#1-norm-fan]

Your personal feelings on someone are in no way relevant to their celebrity status.

I feel like people are seriously too stuck in the "LOL ______ IS A SHITTY CELEBRITY." joke that they're unwilling to even admit someone is a mainstream celebrity.

[Keith]

We've had enough talk about Chyna's porn on 100,001 replies. Fuck whoever brought up the porn in the first place.

Keith. You got some splainin' to do!

Sorry for not looking through the other 800+ pages.

Fuck me.

[Wishbone]

Both mainstream celebrities.

Thank you for proving my point.

.......... Please tell me you're not serious......... Like seriously.........

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Maybe it's just because of the country I'm in, but if you mentioned Chyna to someone, you'd either get a shrug or after some prompting, an "oh yeah, what the fuck is she doing now" where you can gleefully show them what she's doing now.

You can be a former celebrity, like reality stars who are no longer on TV. She easily falls into that category. People like Elvis are still "celebrities" because they manage to be in a segment of the populations thoughts regularly and are talked about. Nobody that I know or see online talks about her other than on here.

[Keith]

.......... Please tell me you're not serious......... Like seriously.........

Chyna isn't even on the same level as Snooki and/or Paris Hilton.

She's at the same level as Screech from "Saved By The Bell", though.

[Wishbone]

Maybe it's just because of the country I'm in, but if you mentioned Chyna to someone, you'd either get a shrug or after some prompting, an "oh yeah, what the fuck is she doing now" where you can gleefully show them what she's doing now.

You can be a former celebrity, like reality stars who are no longer on TV. She easily falls into that category. People like Elvis are still "celebrities" because they manage to be in a segment of the populations thoughts regularly and are talked about. Nobody that I know or see online talks about her other than on here.

Exactly. Go up to the next random person on the street and ask them who Chyna is and I'll bet you get a blank stare. Being a mainstream celebrity means that people outside of your fanbase know who you are.

[Wishbone]

Chyna isn't even on the same level as Snooki and/or Paris Hilton.

She's at the same level as Screech from "Saved By The Bell", though.

Recognition wise no she's not, but she's every bit as much of a blight on society as they are. :yes:

[#1-norm-fan]

.......... Please tell me you're not serious......... Like seriously.........

"Paris Hilton and Snooki are not mainstream celebrities."

This is literally what you are saying right now...

[Wishbone]

And bullshit! Saying she's on the same level as anyone from Saved By The Bell is blasphemy!

[#1-norm-fan]

Being a mainstream celebrity means that people outside of your fanbase know who you are.

So you're a big Paris Hilton/Snooki fan huh?

[Wishbone]

"Paris Hilton and Snooki are not mainstream celebrities."

This is literally what you are saying right now...

That's exactly what I'm saying. Hilton and Snooki are fads. 20 years down the line they'll be dead and nobody will care one way or the other who they were or what they "accomplished". (Yes I'm aware I'm being bias here but fuck anyone who likes Paris Hilton or Snooki. Not even joking I hope they get anus cancer. :foc:)

[#1-norm-fan]

Chyna isn't even on the same level as Snooki and/or Paris Hilton.

She's at the same level as Screech from "Saved By The Bell", though.

She's not nearly as famous as either of those two...

She has notoriety though. Blatantly obvious nototriety. Roughly Screech-level, yes but she branched out into the mainstream, thus making her a mainstream... celebrity...

[Wishbone]

So you're a big Paris Hilton/Snooki fan huh?

Hmm... my logic has been exposed as flawed... no matter I shall continue to stand by my statement that they should both be fed to alligators and then have said alligators be launched into the abyss of space.

[Wishbone]

She's not nearly as famous as either of those two...

She has notoriety though. Blatantly obvious nototriety. Roughly Screech-level, yes but she branched out into the mainstream, thus making her a mainstream... celebrity...

Branched out into the mainstream? :wtf: Uh when?

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Regardless of their need to be fed to alligators. Your hatred forcing you into a flawed logic backs up my theory of people confusing their hatred of celebrities with "They're not a celebrity".

[#1-norm-fan]

Branched out into the mainstream? :wtf: Uh when?

She was a wrestler in WWE during it's most popular era, she's posed for Playboy, she's been on Howard Stern, she's done cameos on popular TV shows, she's been part of the cast on popular reality shows...

[Wishbone]

On a serious note though Chyna is not a mainstream celebrity. Snooki and Hilton are (though they shouldn't be and I hope 2012 brings the end of the society that made them into celebrities). Like I said Chyna isn't known by anyone who wasn't a wrestling fan at some point and even most wrestling fans today don't recognize her unless they grew up in that era of wresting. She's a former wrestler cashing in on the fact that somewhere some idiot will buy her porno simply because he saw her compete in WWF.

[#1-norm-fan]

On a serious note though Chyna is not a mainstream celebrity. Snooki and Hilton are (though they shouldn't be and I hope 2012 brings the end of the society that made them into celebrities). Like I said Chyna isn't known by anyone who wasn't a wrestling fan at some point and even most wrestling fans today don't recognize her unless they grew up in that era of wresting. She's a former wrestler cashing in on the fact that somewhere some idiot will buy her porno simply because he saw her compete in WWF.

See above...

[Wishbone]

Howard stern is not passable as mainstream today, and WWE no matter how much we wish it is not mainstream either. Playboy is where slutty 20 somethings go for a quick buck or washed up "celebrities" go to try and get some attention.

[Wishbone]

Mainstream means that someone knows who the fuck you are. 90% of the world will never even here about this porno and 70% of those that do will not even know who Chyna is. She's a wrestling celebrity but she's not mainstream period.

[#1-norm-fan]

You've proven you have no idea what mainstream is by falling back into your admittedly flawed logic.

Howard Stern... come on. lol

[Wishbone]

If you're gonna call her mainstream then Edge must be mainstream too. Oh and Khali was in a movie so he must be mainstream too.

[#1-norm-fan]

Again, she has mainstream notoriety. Especially in the context of the fucking porn business, she's a bonafide star. lol

[#1-norm-fan]

If you're gonna call her mainstream then Edge must be mainstream too. Oh and Khali was in a movie so he must be mainstream too.

Take one of the aspects I listed and use that while ignoring the others... Sneaky.

[Wishbone]

You've proven you have no idea what mainstream is by falling back into your admittedly flawed logic.

Howard Stern... come on. lol

Does anyone on the planet even care about Howard Stern because last I checked no they did not. No one pays to see Howard Stern. No one pays to listen to Howard Stern. People might watch and listen to him but no one would pay just to see him and him alone.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait... I didn't even list her being in a movie as a reason... lol

[#1-norm-fan]

No one pays to see Howard Stern. No one pays to listen to Howard Stern. People might watch and listen to him but no one would pay just to see him and him alone.

You're falling even deeper into your "Personal opinion is everything" hole.

Yes people pay to listen to Stern. What the fuck?

[Wishbone]

Again, she has mainstream notoriety. Especially in the context of the fucking porn business, she's a bonafide star. lol

There are plenty of porn stars who are more well known in that industry and porn really isn't mainstream so being a porn celebrity doesn't make you mainstream. Yeah she'll probably get some horny teenagers to wank to her vid but she's not getting any awards.

[#1-norm-fan]

There are plenty of porn stars who are more well known in that industry and porn really isn't mainstream so being a porn celebrity doesn't make you mainstream.

Not... even... what I said...

Good Lord...

[Wishbone]

Wait... I didn't even list her being in a movie as a reason... lol

You said TV show. Tomato tomato.... hmm that saying doesn't translate into text very well....

[#1-norm-fan]

Your thousandth post... Just sayin'...

[Wishbone]

Not... even... what I said...

Good Lord...

Uh yeah it is....

[Wishbone]

Neato hit 1k. Think I'll burn an effigy of Snooki to celebrate!

[#1-norm-fan]

I did not list her being in porn as a reason she is mainstream.

The original reason for this discussion came from how she was a mainstream celebrity who went to porn. I was referencing that. Not using her porn career as a reason she's a mainstream celebrity.

So... Uh no it isn't....

[Wishbone]

Anyway though you're basically saying anyone who's ever been on TV is mainstream and that's a lie. Is she a celebrity? Yeah, but being a celebrity and being a mainstream celebrity are two completely different things. She's like Zack Ryder whereas someone who's actually mainstream would be like Cena.

[Wishbone]

I did not list her being in porn as a reason she is mainstream.

The original reason for this discussion came from how she was a mainstream celebrity who went to porn. I was referencing that. Not using her porn career as a reason she's a mainstream celebrity.

So... Uh no it isn't....

Ah well I misread then. My apologies good sir.

[#1-norm-fan]

Anyway though you're basically saying anyone who's ever been on TV is mainstream and that's a lie.

Holy shit... lol

[Wishbone]

Holy shit... lol

lol? You do realize that that is exactly what you're saying right? You used her appearance on tv and in wrestling as reasons for her being mainstream. She has the same drawing potential as HHH in that regard. She's not mainstream no matter how you spin it. WRESTING IS NOT MAINSTREAM! :roll:

[Wishbone]

Hmm... anyone else notice there are two Dark One's looking at this tread right now?

[#1-norm-fan]

lol? You do realize that that is exactly what you're saying right? You used her appearance on tv and in wrestling as reasons for her being mainstream. She has the same drawing potential as HHH in that regard. She's not mainstream no matter how you spin it. WRESTING IS NOT MAINSTREAM! :roll:

That's not exactly what I'm saying.

I listed certain things... some revolve around her being on TV. Again, you turn it into something completely different as "Anyone who has ever been on TV is mainstream."

No. But I would say that anyone who has been promoted and profited on via their celebrity status by multiple mainstream outlets, television shows and featured in the main cast of a popular celebrity based reality show (Despite your lack of being able to separate things that are viewed as "trashy" from the conversation at hand) can pretty much lay claim to being mainstream.

[Wishbone]

.......... No comment.........

[Dark One]

Didn't think it was possible, but I think those creepy wrestler sex fantasy pictures would be better than the last several pages here.

[#1-norm-fan]

http://i.imgur.com/0JOcr.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Better?

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, why is there a "Darkone" in this room right now, Dark One?

[Wishbone]

That's not exactly what I'm saying.

I listed certain things... some revolve around her being on TV. Again, you turn it into something completely different as "Anyone who has ever been on TV is mainstream."

No. But I would say that anyone who has been promoted and profited on via their celebrity status by multiple mainstream outlets, television shows and featured in the main cast of a popular celebrity based reality show (Despite your lack of being able to separate things that are viewed as "trashy" from the conversation at hand) can pretty much lay claim to being mainstream.

Does the guy at the local Walmart recognize Snooki? Yes. Does he recognize Miley Cyrus? Yes. Does he recognize *Enter random trashy bitch #24 here*? Yes. Does he recognize Chyna? No. I realize that trashy stuff can still be mainstream. My previous comments about Snooki and Paris were just me fucking around. Chyna isn't recognizable outside wrestling. She was used in other things but all that did was attract wrestling fans to watch those things. Do you really think that Joe Shmoe in Milwaukee tuned into that reality show because he saw Chyna's name on the roster? No he didn't.

[Wishbone]

http://i.imgur.com/0JOcr.jpg

To be fair Slater's hair is fucking amazing.

[#1-norm-fan]

Does the guy at the local Walmart recognize Snooki? Yes. Does he recognize Miley Cyrus? Yes. Does he recognize *Enter random trashy bitch #24 here*? Yes. Does he recognize Chyna? No. I realize that trashy stuff can still be mainstream. My previous comments about Snooki and Paris were just me fucking around. Chyna isn't recognizable outside wrestling. She was used in other things but all that did was attract wrestling fans to watch those things. Do you really think that Joe Shmoe in Milwaukee tuned into that reality show because he saw Chyna's name on the roster? No he didn't.

It doesn't matter what people tuned in specifically for. Once she is featured regularly on a MAINSTREAM television show, she becomes a MAINSTREAM celebrity. Moreso, when she is featured on that show BECAUSE she's a celebrity.

It's really that simple. The standards aren't nearly what you're making them out to be.

[Wishbone]

It doesn't matter what people tuned in specifically for. Once she is featured regularly on a MAINSTREAM television show, she becomes a MAINSTREAM celebrity. Moreso, when she is featured on that show BECAUSE she's a celebrity.

It's really that simple. The standards aren't nearly what you're making them out to be.

Your definition of mainstream makes no sense at all. mainstream means people recognize you. People don't recognize Chyna. She's not mainstream get over it. Just because you were on a few "mainstream" shows in the 90s/early 00s doesn't make you mainstream. Being recognized by millions no matter where you go does. Anyone can be mainstream by your standards if they just appear on the Real World.

[#1-norm-fan]

Once she is featured regularly on a MAINSTREAM television show...

Anyone can be mainstream by your standards if they just appear on the Real World.

And with like the... 3rd blatant straw man, I have given up on you.

[#1-norm-fan]

owenbrown. What wrestling related thing would you like to discuss in 100,001 replies?

[Droford]

I saw a black guy at the Ravens game that was otherwise a complete dead ringer for the iron shiek

[owenbrown]

I think the next person to post a bad porno like the Chyna and Nicole Bass ones should be banned for a year

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I saw a black guy at the Ravens game that was otherwise a complete dead ringer for the iron shiek

Jim Brown was there?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Chyna might have started having a little bit of a career but it all ended when she left the WWF. The Chyna-bubble bursts just like her fake tits did. She put out a sex tape and was famous enough to get a porn deal. Howard Stern isn't even on the real radio anymore. The only reason he's relevant right now is because they chose him to be a judge on a shitty talent show.

Elvis was actually talented and Chyna was a fucking horrible wrestler. Everybody hated her because she worked stiff and now her partners do too. ;)

She might have been getting mainstream attention, but that was 15 fuckin' years ago. To be a main-stream celebrity you have to stay on TV, movies, radio. Porn doesn't count. Wrestling doesn't even count.

Next time you go out and see a stranger ask them "do you know who Shawn Michaels?" The people we think are famous are only famous because we watch wrestling.

You're wrong. Give it up.

[FourFifty]

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[Autobahn]

Rodney Mack, Mo from Men on a Mission, New Jack and Alex Wright.

There's your new Nation of Domination.

[Autobahn]

Is there really a porno guy called Johnny Longschlong? Almost as good as Lance Hardwood.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Despite the WWEFBI's shitty music, I love Little Guido and Johnny The Bull. Can't believe a guy the size of Johnny and the dumb charisma he has never got properly over.

[GD]

You are joking, right? I find the "No Sleep till Brooklyn" like theme to be cool.

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

That's.... Not what it is. At least in May 2003 and before.

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[GD]

That sucks.

[Rammsteinmad]

Dolph Ziggler has been in the WWE for seven years! :eek:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I did not realize that Dolph's little brother is on nXt. Briley Pierce.

lol Briley. that's a gayer name than Dolph

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also Jake Carter is Vader's kid

[#1-norm-fan]

Chyna might have started having a little bit of a career but it all ended when she left the WWF.

Surreal Life happened after WWE as did most of her career outside WWE. You're demonstrably wrong. Give up.

Howard Stern isn't even on the real radio anymore. The only reason he's relevant right now is because they chose him to be a judge on a shitty talent show.

Yeah, XM isn't popular or anything. Neither is America's Got Talent. You're a moron. Give up. Personal opinon on something being shitty = Lack of celebrity status... This is only the 5th or 6th time I've had that theory validated.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE Looking to Pick The New ‘Top Guy’
Posted by Larry Csonka on 09.28.2012

Someone for Cena to pass the torch too…

- Following John Cena's public divorce and recent injuries, there has been more talk backstage about finding the next "top guy" for WWE, someone that Cena could pass the torch to.

The general feeling is that the next guy should be in his mid-20s right now. CM Punk is 33, a heel and also doesn't have the look WWE wants for the top guy

Sheamus has the look and is liked by the "right people," but he is 35, the same age as Cena right now.

As reported some time back, many believe who ever is picked as the next "top guy" will be the last hand picked star by Vince McMahon.

Credit: WrestlingObserver.com via wrestlezone.com

If that is true then the idea of Ryback as the next potential big or mega star might be a really short term plan since he'll be 31 in a little over a month from now. Although it also depends when the WWE actually bothers to start the massive push for that new top star.

Wouldn't be Ziggler either since he's 32 nor would it be Wade Barrett (32), Kofi Kiongston (31), Daniel Bryan (31), or the Miz (31). Ryder (27) and Cody Rhodes (27) actually fit the age range right now for current stars.

[#1-norm-fan]

It seems like a guy has to be old to become a star now. Also, not sure why Cena's divorce is mentioned as a reason his time is coming up.

[#1-norm-fan]

Guys on the WWE roster in their early to mid 20's...

Cody Rhodes
Curt Hawkins
Drew McIntyre
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Jinder Mahal
JTG
Trent Barreta
Zack Ryder

I don't think any of those guys could realistically be the "top guy". They'd have to bring someone in and groom him from the start the way they've groomed Ryback in his current gimmick.

[#1-norm-fan]

The NXT roster is full of young guys. Can't really think of any of them that fit the mold either though.

[GD]

Team Hell No and Team Rhodes Scholars tag team names suck.

[#1-norm-fan]

"Team" anything sucks. It screams "makeshift tag team".

Also, Cody and Sandow are just weird together.

[Innovator]

Team " " screams unoriginality. I blame Twilight.

[GD]

Team Codswell Montgomery Sandow.

[#1-norm-fan]

Deep & Dashing?

I'm usually good at coming up with team names. I'm at a loss here.

[JimmyMess]

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[Nicky Fives]

Drew McIntyre & Wade Barrett should form a "mutual alliance" on opposite shows where they dominate each brand and hold the respective world titles, they can even both have Regal as a manager...... there is your 2 next big stars.....you could then start building some secondary "American" stars who can use patritism to get over (see Kurt Angle, The Patriot, Duggan, Slaughter, etc.).....

[Emperor Smeat]

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1348805827860.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Drew McIntyre & Wade Barrett should form a "mutual alliance" on opposite shows where they dominate each brand and hold the respective world titles, they can even both have Regal as a manager...... there is your 2 next big stars.....you could then start building some secondary "American" stars who can use patritism to get over (see Kurt Angle, The Patriot, Duggan, Slaughter, etc.).....

Even if you could somehow make Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett big stars, neither could really be the face of the company.

[#1-norm-fan]

Though I like that they've given Barrett a little depth to his character.

[Wishbone]

hmm... next top star has to be in his 20s right now... honestly no one comes to mind. Kinda hope this is just a rumor as if it's true I see many unwarranted pushes in the future just to see if someone "clicks". Only guy with "the look" I can think of is Mason Ryan but I have no clue how old he is and honestly the guy has no business ever being in a main event.

[Wishbone]

Drew maybe but his mic work is horribad. Cody's too damn small and Ryder will never get that main event push so long as Vince is in charge.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah most of the potential young guys are pretty small in terms of the typical type Vince loves or need a lot more development/work to be done.

Even Sin Cara who is meant to be the next Rey and star of the Latino market has no chance since he's 29 and probably would be 31 before he could even potentially starts reaching top status like Rey has.

[GD]

Vince doesn't care about the IWC.

[#1-norm-fan]

There's Big E Langston...

Nothing?

[#1-norm-fan]

Bray Wyatt is only 25 and is goddamn amazing.

Not a face of the company though. An antagonist for the face of the company, definitely...

[Wishbone]

Isn't Big E black? And we all know Vince doesn't like the darkies. :shifty:

[Wishbone]

Bray Wyatt is only 25 and is goddamn amazing.

Not a face of the company though. An antagonist for the face of the company, definitely...

Bray Wyatt... name sounds familiar but I'm drawing a blank. I don't watch NXT anymore so....

[Nicky Fives]

Even if you could somehow make Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett big stars, neither could really be the face of the company.

why not? Barrett could easily.....

[Wishbone]

Oh he's Harris! Fuck yeah forgot about ol' Husky. From the little I've seen his new gimmick does seem pretty awesome, but he's definitely not face of the company material. I'd buy him as a top heel though.

[Wishbone]

why not? Barrett could easily.....

Barrett could possibly pull it off, but the rumor is that they've gotta be in their 20s so that throws him out the window. Besides I honestly don't see a foreigner being the face of WWE anytime soon to be honest.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Time for Kenny Dykstra to make his return!

[Xero]

Currently have Fire Pro R running in an emulator pretty flawlessly for simming. Currently watching an 80s vs 90s elimination tag. Hogan, Savage, Flair and Sting vs. Austin, Rock, Taker and Benoit. No pinfalls yet at 30 mins. Currently a clusterfuck.

Also accidentally left the arena on the warehouse. The match of the century is happening in a CZW arena apparently, with no fans and two cameramen.

[Xero]

Update: Austin just Stunned Hogan, KOing him. One down.

[Xero]

Austin just Stunned Savage, KOing him. Two on four right now. Flair and Austin going at it.

[Xero]

Austin, Rock and Benoit all just tapped to the Figure Four from Flair within like three minutes game-time. Flair and Sting vs. Taker now. Taker just chokeslammed them both.

And Flair pins Taker after a punch at 53 minutes lol.

YOUR WINNERS OF THE MATCH OF THE 20th CENTURY

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[Lock Jaw]

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[#1-norm-fan]

why not? Barrett could easily.....

I can see Wade Barrett as a good "bad ass babyface" ala Sheamus. Face of the company though, no. Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena... Barrett? Sheamus could do it before him as he's more likable at least.

[#1-norm-fan]

Currently have Fire Pro R running in an emulator pretty flawlessly for simming. Currently watching an 80s vs 90s elimination tag. Hogan, Savage, Flair and Sting vs. Austin, Rock, Taker and Benoit. No pinfalls yet at 30 mins. Currently a clusterfuck.

Also accidentally left the arena on the warehouse. The match of the century is happening in a CZW arena apparently, with no fans and two cameramen.

... What is this thing you're talking about? As an EWR/TEW fan I am intrigued...

[Xero]

Fire Pro Wrestling Returns.

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[#1-norm-fan]

So it's nothing like EWR/TEW then is it? This makes me sad. I got excited.

[Xero]

No lol. Just has ridiculously smart AI for actually watching the matches instead of playing, really.

Yes, I'm that much of a nerd.

[GD]

Fire Pro Wrestling Returns.

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The depiction of SummerSlam 2004 was incorrect. As everybody remembers, it was WWE Champion John Bradshaw Layfield who defeated The Undertaker via disqualification in the main event.

Shortly after The Undertaker chokeslammed JBL through the roof of his limousine, a very excited Randy Orton along with a local unknown wrestler ran out to the ring, stumbled and fell-face first on the mat. Referee Earl Hebner would then reveal the missing big gold belt (which he was planning to sell along with his other fake WWE merchandise) and award it to Randy Orton. Howard Finkel immediately announced Randy Orton as the new World Heavyweight Champion. And that's that.


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[Autobahn]

If they are looking for someone to be that next Cena-level mega star, they wont find it. Sort of reminds me of the Bret Hart/Diesel era, where there was no Hogan and Austin was not there yet.

[#1-norm-fan]

I wouldn't go that far. You can't see the future. They could find "the guy".

[#1-norm-fan]

Perhaps the... USA GUY!?!?

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[#1-norm-fan]

Tag Teams I understand. Honestly, I love looking at hot chicks, but if the Divas were completely taken away, would anybody notice?

Not really. But they're there now. And they make the female audience feel "empowered" or something.

[Lock Jaw]

I have often thought that Derrick Bateman has a Cena-esque quality about him sometimes. As in over the top cheesy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Divas Division could actually be a huge part of WWE programming. TNA has had great success with female wrestling in the past. What the WWE lacks are distinctive characters and compelling storylines in the Divas Division. Plus, as "empowered" as the WWE tries to present their division as -- the Divas are still exploited as eye-candy. There's nothing wrong with the women being sexy, at all, but the WWE shouldn't be so fixed on that one type of female performer. Bring in some older female veterans and some less attractive girls that can wrestle. Hire maybe two joshi, have one earn a contract by beating the other and let the other go to NXT and work down there with some of the girls. She can eventually get called up to the main roster and feud with the girl that beat her originally.

Storylines for the girls is important, and I actually think the Divas Division would benefit if it had its own writer. It's hard to do that with other divisions, since the male talent roster is essentially pooled; but the females seem to exist, at least when it comes to in-ring stuff, in their own little realm.

[Autobahn]

I wouldn't go that far. You can't see the future. They could find "the guy".

True, but when you look at guys like Austin and Cena, you could see by the way they rose to the championship that they would be mega stars. Noone on the current roster shows that promise.

[owenbrown]

If that is true then the idea of Ryback as the next potential big or mega star might be a really short term plan since he'll be 31 in a little over a month from now. Although it also depends when the WWE actually bothers to start the massive push for that new top star.

Wouldn't be Ziggler either since he's 32 nor would it be Wade Barrett (32), Kofi Kiongston (31), Daniel Bryan (31), or the Miz (31). Ryder (27) and Cody Rhodes (27) actually fit the age range right now for current stars.

Wait, Sheamus is 35? :wtf:

[#1-norm-fan]

True, but when you look at guys like Austin and Cena, you could see by the way they rose to the championship that they would be mega stars. Noone on the current roster shows that promise.

*cough*Johnny Curtis*cough*

[#1-norm-fan]

Every day Johnny Curtis is not on the main roster being groomed for something big is a day WWE is throwing away money.

[Malfeitor]

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/--X8pAvg3DE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This was amazing. Especially when he started shit talking juggalos.

[#1-norm-fan]

The Main Event for the first episode of the new show "WWE Main Event" has been anounced... Ready for this? ...

CM Punk vs Sheamus

Umm...

[#1-norm-fan]

It will probably be a clusterfuck ending of some sort and the show will revert to Superstars 2 after the first month or so of trying to use the major players to garner attention.

Still... fuck WWE for throwing this match away on the ION network.

[Lock Jaw]

The Main Event for the first episode of the new show "WWE Main Event" has been anounced... Ready for this? ...

CM Punk vs Sheamus

Umm...

AKA We really want you to watch our new show

[KaosDarksol]

It will probably be a clusterfuck ending of some sort and the show will revert to Superstars 2 after the first month or so of trying to use the major players to garner attention.

Still... fuck WWE for throwing this match away on the ION network.

We will see how it turns out on Tuesday or Wednesday. I was hoping they would continue teasing sheamus and punk and have it be a ppv match after one of them lost their title

[#1-norm-fan]

I said a few weeks ago that one of the problems with PPVs was that we've seen every match because every match is given away on free TV nowadays so why pay for a PPV. For that reason they shouldn't have Sheamus and Punk do more than randomly cross paths on occasion but never get physical and then build it all up to a match.

The very night I said it, Punk vs Sheamus was booked for Raw and I was angry.

Then it was cancelled after Punk walked out on it and I was relieved.

Now it will be taking place on ION's "The Main Event".

[Lock Jaw]

https://apps.facebook.com/fanappz/poll/vote?id=33927&source=fa_publisher

Option 1:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2n0ufbt.jpg

Option 2:
http://i47.tinypic.com/r936oi.jpg

Option 3:
http://i45.tinypic.com/anzy4p.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Seems like they just "gave up" on coming up with a legit third option.

First two are both great. Can't decide.

[Tom Guycott]

They have people who are ready now/can be ready really soon without such a low age restriction. They wait too long for most of the guys they have, then go "Fuck it, it's too late for them, they're too old!"

WWE plays too much into the "franchise QB" philosophy to be able to find "that guy". What I mean is, how many #1 picks end up being the face of the football team and megastar passing machine? It's usually the 2-3rd round pick that nobody gives a shit about that steps up and becomes "the man" eventually.

With that, someone like a Ryback or Ryan being pushed to the forefront simply based on their age or look is kinda stupid. They're forgoing incremental builds, and "churning out" approximate 5 year money machines that can replace the last on the promise of trying to find that one guy who will make them rich for the next 15-20 years. They even proved this logic fallable by building who is now "the man", John Cena. They didn't think he was ready when he got the nod... he was just so damn over they gave him a shot, and that was because it was despiration time in finding a younger guy for that spot. Luckily, he had the ability and charisma to keep it rolling.

Then, they seemed to alleviate that issue by bringing in younger talent and building them slow. Pushes that could eventually make it believable that guys like Cody or Kofi or Dolph can be top-tier talent. Then, what happens? They get dropped into midcard hell or demoted to tag-teams that have no real consequence (Rhode-Scholars didn't need to happen... two guys who are pretty over enough as singles heels thrown together for no good reason... as opposed to two other singles competitors not doing anything that could be thrown together as heels for the sake of even getting on TV). Instead, of making touches to polish what they have, they sink time and effort into guys like that Tough Enough winner that we never heard from again (Levine? I really don't remember), or Jayne Cobb.. er, Jackson Andrews. They obviously failed, but boy, they were young and looked the shit for the 30 seconds they were around, didn't they?

Pretty soon, chasing that grail will put them back in the position they were a few years back, when the Cenas and Ortons- ironically, the "experiments",- were pushed because they needed guys to step in for the 'Takers and Rocks.

[Tom Guycott]

Seems like they just "gave up" on coming up with a legit third option.

First two are both great. Can't decide.

I actually like the 3rd option. Truthfully, I like a combination of 2 and 3. That "scarface" picture of Paul on 2 should be on option 3.

That, or make 2 a black shirt.

[KaosDarksol]

I said a few weeks ago that one of the problems with PPVs was that we've seen every match because every match is given away on free TV nowadays so why pay for a PPV. For that reason they shouldn't have Sheamus and Punk do more than randomly cross paths on occasion but never get physical and then build it all up to a match.

The very night I said it, Punk vs Sheamus was booked for Raw and I was angry.

Then it was cancelled after Punk walked out on it and I was relieved.

Now it will be taking place on ION's "The Main Event".

They haven't had enough interaction to take a match between them seriously. Hopefully this will go by and we can all forget they even had a match on a show that isn't raw or smackdown

[Road Warrior]

I said a few weeks ago that one of the problems with PPVs was that we've seen every match because every match is given away on free TV nowadays so why pay for a PPV. For that reason they shouldn't have Sheamus and Punk do more than randomly cross paths on occasion but never get physical and then build it all up to a match.

The very night I said it, Punk vs Sheamus was booked for Raw and I was angry.

Then it was cancelled after Punk walked out on it and I was relieved.

Now it will be taking place on ION's "The Main Event".

Completely agree, I'm of the opinion also that when they do the tag match between the main event guys, usually the week before the ppv,they shouldn't even let the face and heel be in the ring at the same time.

[KIRA]

I feel like the reason the Diva division is such a mess right now was that they were basically just treading water with them until Kharma returned. And now that she's not coming back, they didn't build anything or anyone so nobody cares. Honestly, I don't think I've cared about a Diva program since Trish Stratus / Mickie James.


this. Trish was the Messiah of the divas division and Mickie was her 2nd coming

[whiteyford]

Dunno, look at the success TNA had with the Knockout division, if they actually put any effort into the divas they might get something out of it. Not like they can't find the time to showcase them on Raw anymore. Same thing with the Tag Division.

[Nicky Fives]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vK0e3_ydPLQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

for James Steele.....

[Nicky Fives]

https://apps.facebook.com/fanappz/poll/vote?id=33927&source=fa_publisher

Option 1:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2n0ufbt.jpg

Option 2:
http://i47.tinypic.com/r936oi.jpg

Option 3:
http://i45.tinypic.com/anzy4p.jpg

I'd buy the last one.....

[Xero]

The third one is the best in my opinion. Nice and clean. The other two are just... dunno. Maybe because they're white shirts with black print.

[Blakeamus]

This made me chuckle.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/548815_288304691274443_1975660331_n.jpg

[Razzamajazz]

i cant see kane saying "bitch please"

[DAMN iNATOR]

Loving the concept of having a huge tournament to determine new WWE Tag Team Championship #1 Contenders. Reminds me of the huge ’02 SD! tourney for the then-SD! exclusive WWE Tag Team Championships (ya know, the ones that don’t look like somebody shat out a penny?)

[DAMN iNATOR]

2002 WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament - Round 1

Los Guerreros vs. Mark Henry & Rikishi
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xs5xs2"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs5xs2_los-guerreros-vs-rikishi-mark-henry-3-10-02_sport" target="_blank">Los Guerreros vs Rikishi &amp; Mark Henry 3 10 02</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/BenoitRocks" target="_blank">BenoitRocks</a></i>

Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Billy Kidman & John Cena
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x37l15"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x37l15_smackdown-kidman-cena-vs-angle-beno_sport" target="_blank">Smackdown - Kidman &amp; Cena vs Angle &amp; Benoit</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/mert_booyaka" target="_blank">mert_booyaka</a></i>

Reverend D-Von & Faarooq vs. Billy & Chuck (note the incorrect “Reverend D-Von & Batista” name tag! :lol:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DUao1vBW6_w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rey Mysterio & Edge vs. Brock Lesnar & Tajiri
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ycdvlTRKYsE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[DAMN iNATOR]

2002 WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament - Semifinals
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2lhip"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2lhip_chris-benoit-kurt-angle-vs-los-guer_sport" target="_blank">Chris Benoit &amp; Kurt Angle vs Los Guerreros 2002...</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/nickslic123" target="_blank">nickslic123</a></i>

Rey Mysterio & Edge def. D-Von & Faarooq (Sorry, couldn't find a vid of the match :( ...)

[DAMN iNATOR]

2002 WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament FINAL for the WWE Tag Team Championship (and no, that is not redundant.)

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GcnQca7akac" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Pintint]

I like what they are doing with tag teams, at least on Smackdown. It finally gives the mid card guys some value.

[Gertner]

Tag teams don't really draw money per se, but it adds to the overall enjoyment of a show. Creates less dead time. Pretty stoked for this tag tournament. Not a bad match in the tourny. Kidd/Gabriel vs Ryder Marella and Cara/Mysterio vs Epico/Primo should both have some nice spots and you can't go wrong with the PTP vs Kingston/Truth. I'm guessing Truth turns on Kingston after their match and PTP end up losing to Rey/Cara setting up a Rhodes Scholars vs Rey/Cara finals, which should be terrific.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Tag teams don't really draw money per se, but it adds to the overall enjoyment of a show. Creates less dead time. Pretty stoked for this tag tournament. Not a bad match in the tourny. Kidd/Gabriel vs Ryder Marella and Cara/Mysterio vs Epico/Primo should both have some nice spots and you can't go wrong with the PTP vs Kingston/Truth. I'm guessing Truth turns on Kingston after their match and PTP end up losing to Rey/Cara setting up a Rhodes Scholars vs Rey/Cara finals, which should be terrific.

This.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's not Kane. His name is Gerald, and he's a waiter.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Also, watching those vids makes me remember how much I miss guys like Eddie, Chavo, Benoit, Kurt, Edge, and Tajiri. :(

[#1-norm-fan]

Dunno, look at the success TNA had with the Knockout division, if they actually put any effort into the divas they might get something out of it. Not like they can't find the time to showcase them on Raw anymore. Same thing with the Tag Division.

WWE can have success with the divas division without devoting multiple segments to it. Like I said, there's a ceiling on their drawing power. Put some effort into making characters by keeping them relevant in storylines revolving around the guys as well while they aren't directly feuding for the title. They should exist in their own little world as far as wrestling but that doesn't mean they can't be a vital part of the show. But a diva is never gonna main event your PPVs and headline WrestleMania. It's a gimmick. Your main midcard roster CAN do those things. Spend the rest of your segments on making them intriguing.

Same with the cruiserweights. Let them exist in their own little world and have their own title to feud with and let someone like Tyson Kidd be "on top" technically. They can't realistically have the idea of Tyson Kidd main eventing PPV and headlining WrestleMania. Why not let him exist in his own world where he can be a "main guy"?

You've got two major segments a show completely devoted to an entire division. The rest is devoted to your main roster, guys on top, guys working their way to the top, etc. It's nice and neat and everyone's happy.

[Nowhere Man]

I'd say the problem with the Divas Division is that so few of them are integrated into the rest of the show. During the division's best period, a lot of the Divas were directly involved in the men's storylines--Lita with the Hardyz and later Edge, Trish with T&A or Jericho/Christian, Molly Holly with the Hurricane, etc. The fact that they had more presence on the show than "now it's time for our one Divas match where the face Divas all tag against the heel Divas" meant the audience was more interested when they were in the ring.

Shit, look at how over AJ has gotten since she was incorporated into the angles with Punk and Bryan and whatnot. Sure, she's kinda being shoved down our throats now, but she got over because she was actually included in the rest of the show, instead of just corralled into the token Division that they spend so little time pushing.

[Emperor Smeat]

https://apps.facebook.com/fanappz/poll/vote?id=33927&source=fa_publisher

Option 1:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2n0ufbt.jpg

Option 2:
http://i47.tinypic.com/r936oi.jpg

Option 3:
http://i45.tinypic.com/anzy4p.jpg

Like the front of the 1st shirt but like the back on the 3rd shirt

[Lock Jaw]

I think I have decided on option 2.

[CSL]

http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/6e5d57cc0a6311e2bcc122000a1d0352_7.jpg

[CSL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dusty!Working two jobs!Security at Columbus Ohio FBO!!! <a href="http://t.co/3zQU9tgd" title="http://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/252122016897986560/photo/1">twitter.com/CMPunk/status/…</a></p>&mdash; CM Punk (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/252122016897986560" data-datetime="2012-09-29T19:05:48+00:00">September 29, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/6e5d57cc0a6311e2bcc122000a1d0352_7.jpg

Feed him more?

Breaking news: Rock hints at match with Ryback at WrestleMania!

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dusty!Working two jobs!Security at Columbus Ohio FBO!!! <a href="http://t.co/3zQU9tgd" title="http://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/252122016897986560/photo/1">twitter.com/CMPunk/status/…</a></p>&mdash; CM Punk (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/252122016897986560" data-datetime="2012-09-29T19:05:48+00:00">September 29, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Breaking news: CM Punk involved in twitter war with Dusty Rhodes. Could lead to a match at WrestleMania.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://i.minus.com/iCl3JhcGoemFn.gif

[BizarroKing]

Seems like they just "gave up" on coming up with a legit third option.

First two are both great. Can't decide.

And yet when i voted, the polls say the 3rd option has 57% of the vote or w/e.

[BizarroKing]

http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/6e5d57cc0a6311e2bcc122000a1d0352_7.jpg

The Rock enjoys his flapjacks.

[Lock Jaw]

And yet when i voted, the polls say the 3rd option has 57% of the vote or w/e.

Probably because most wrestling fans only wear dark colors and have a terrible sense of style.

[KaosDarksol]

Feed him more?

Breaking news: Rock hints at match with Ryback at WrestleMania!

It's only a hint if we get a picture of ryback eating a rock

[#1-norm-fan]

It's only a hint if we get a picture of ryback eating a rock

With a dog and a TPWW sign?

[CSL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3_0E7YCUAE9uMq.jpg:large

[#1-norm-fan]

Rock is definitely trying to say something with these pictures.

[Pintint]

He wants to be fed more...

ROCK/RYBACK.

WRESTLEMANIA.

:y:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Probably because most wrestling fans only wear dark colors and have a terrible sense of style.

You'd be weating a wrestling t-shirt. Of course you'd have a terrible sense of style.

[CSL]

Rock is definitely trying to say something with these pictures.

yah. It's his cheat day.

[Lock Jaw]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tcttzLZ41qm9odpo1_500.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1348954384871.jpg

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

[Savio]

Sheamus fought DB at Over the Limit

[Savio]

I think CM Punk should hold the WWE title close to Cena's 380 days With Rock getting a guaranteed shot at the Royal Rumble there is no way that can happen First off I think Rock is 100% winning at the Rumble and 2 I think it wont be Rock vs CM Punk at the Rumble anyway and they will save that match for mania which means he will probably lose it at TLC.

[Lock Jaw]

He actually fought Alberto, Orton, and Jericho in a Four-Way at Over the Limit. Was originally supposed to be just him vs Alberto (which is where the pic came from).

Then he actually fought Ziggler at No Way Out, but again it was supposed to be Alberto.

So, yeah, the pics above are not 100% accurate.

[Savio]

Oh right he fought Bryan at Extreme Rulzzzzz (Which was his best match to date).

[Tom Guycott]

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1348954384871.jpg

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

He actually fought Alberto, Orton, and Jericho in a Four-Way at Over the Limit. Was originally supposed to be just him vs Alberto (which is where the pic came from).

Then he actually fought Ziggler at No Way Out, but again it was supposed to be Alberto.

So, yeah, the pics above are not 100% accurate.

Yes, inaccurate.

Match happens often enough that it's still funny, though.

http://www.twoevilmonks.org/firefly/ffimages/season1/106/fly104041.jpghttp://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/083/759/jackson_andrews_crop_340x234.jpg?1291726929

And I apologize for anyone I offended by comparing Jackson Andrews to Jayne Cobb. Again.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yes, inaccurate.

It's not actually inaccurate if you look at it as a fact that that match was actually booked for every one of those PPVs and those pictures are actual pictures promoting matches that were planned.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, he got a title shot on Smackdown during that stretch to make up for the one that he didn't get so he literally has had that many title shots.

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/McJUJt8DKNw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Zeeboe]

http://youtu.be/7oRDx5ntSbM

Am drunk right now and watched this - OMG dude. :eek: tHEy killed the guy!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KaosDarksol]

Watching ladder match 2 right now and it just hit me that Alex Riley looks kinda like Charlie haas

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/P2fG7bxnxSc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[owenbrown]

https://apps.facebook.com/fanappz/poll/vote?id=33927&source=fa_publisher

Option 1:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2n0ufbt.jpg

Option 2:
http://i47.tinypic.com/r936oi.jpg

Option 3:
http://i45.tinypic.com/anzy4p.jpg

where's the all of the above option?

[owenbrown]

Feed him more?

Breaking news: Rock hints at match with Ryback at WrestleMania!

Breaking news: CM Punk involved in twitter war with Dusty Rhodes. Could lead to a match at WrestleMania.

stop giving Ryan Clark fake ass news :rant:

[#1-norm-fan]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/P2fG7bxnxSc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Fuck, this man had so much potential. Ridiculous how not only the gimmick, but his career had to end.

[KaosDarksol]

Well apparently ladder matches bore me couldn't get through 3 matches off the DVD without falling asleep

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Kind of gutted that Smackdown 2003 has now changed from Beautiful People to poor beat hip-hop.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Evolution is weird. They debuted in January 2003, and now in May, Orton and Batista haven't been seen on camera for 4 months.

[whiteyford]

Weren't they injured around that time?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Weren't they injured around that time?

Probably, but they weren't even mentioned.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm loving these 2003 Smackdown files I've got. They're from the original feeds, so no match is being interrupted by ad breaks. Las one was great. Cole got how long it was until Badd Blood and he says "what JR? Oh yeah, you're right, it's 11 days".

[Savio]

It's not actually inaccurate if you look at it as a fact that that match was actually booked for every one of those PPVs and those pictures are actual pictures promoting matches that were planned.
They we feuding right after wrestlemanina too, he was nearly going to face him at extreme rules.

[Ultra Mantis]

Del Rio had been "officially" #1 Contender since the first Smackdown after Wrestlemania.

[Savio]

I swear HIAC will be a Fatal four way too

[KaosDarksol]

I swear HIAC will be a Fatal four way too

A fatal four way would be better than just sheamus and big show in a cell

[Lock Jaw]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4BWqMDCYAIblEv.jpg:large

[Lock Jaw]

http://i.imgur.com/2C4kM.jpg

[CSL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>“@<a href="https://twitter.com/tixycrunch33">tixycrunch33</a>: @<a href="https://twitter.com/cmpunk">cmpunk</a> If you want real heel heat, go back to This Fire Burns.”Above is an example of what is wrong with fans today.</p>&mdash; CM Punk (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/252455555824746496" data-datetime="2012-09-30T17:11:09+00:00">September 30, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>You know cute words like "segment" and "heat" but you don't know what it means. How many stars is this tweet?</p>&mdash; CM Punk (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/252455842589323264" data-datetime="2012-09-30T17:12:17+00:00">September 30, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

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Brian Kendrick. :lol:


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[GD]

"At a WWE match put a smackdown on wrestling for now"

[Mercenary]

dude your a fke fruml I should finf u beat the shit out of your faggot ass

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

https://apps.facebook.com/fanappz/poll/vote?id=33927&source=fa_publisher

[Jura]

Rock is definitely trying to say something with these pictures.
Oh snap. Ryback will get the championship pretty soon and then it will be Rock vs Ryback at the Royal Rumble.

[Emperor Smeat]

If Ryback refuses, then I guess Matt Hardy would be next. Probably could out-eat the Rock and Ryback right now if he wanted to.

http://www.truemeaningoflife.com/images/hardykeepseatingandeating.gif

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.imgnook.com/UtLveo.gif

[Lock Jaw]

http://imageshack.us/a/img411/4295/200ryo9.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

Still think they can totally get away with CM Punk holding the WWE Title until the Royal Rumble next year. It will be something like 435 days as WWE Champion for Punk, which would be pretty huge. It'd beat John Cena's longest reign, and move CM Punk into some pretty uncharted territory. Even if they decided to put the WWE Title on The Rock, then it would be a pretty fucking huge deal if he was unseating CM Punk who had held the title for so long.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, Hell in a Cell is a pretty perfect time for Dolph Ziggler to cash-in Money in the Bank.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tag teams don't really draw money per se, but it adds to the overall enjoyment of a show. Creates less dead time. Pretty stoked for this tag tournament. Not a bad match in the tourny. Kidd/Gabriel vs Ryder Marella and Cara/Mysterio vs Epico/Primo should both have some nice spots and you can't go wrong with the PTP vs Kingston/Truth. I'm guessing Truth turns on Kingston after their match and PTP end up losing to Rey/Cara setting up a Rhodes Scholars vs Rey/Cara finals, which should be terrific.

This.

Ever since they first started teaming, I always got the sense that Truth would turn on Kofi as soon as they lost the Tag Team Titles. He just worked so well as an unstable heel last year, and he could put over Kofi in a pretty solid way.

I'm pretty sure they will put Marella/Ryder over Kidd/Gabriel, just because Marella/Ryder are so fucking over, but I do wish that they would give that one victory to Kidd & Gabriel, since I think they could use it. They would make great guys to put over this heel alliance of Slater, McIntyre & Mahal.

[#1-norm-fan]

Still think they can totally get away with CM Punk holding the WWE Title until the Royal Rumble next year.

"Still"?

Did something happen to change that because I'm pretty sure that's what the general consensus is as far as what's going to happen.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Most respectable posters around here that I've seen have actually said things like there is "no way" Punk has a continuous run heading into the Royal Rumble.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Objectively speaking, does anyone here think that Sheamus vs. Del Rio deserved a Hell in a Cell Match to end their rivalry? It could have been a decent way to give Del Rio that "one last shot" against Sheamus, and put the Celtic Warrior over strong. You could have had Big Show return after the match and leave Sheamus laying, before Dolph Ziggler comes in and cashes in Money in the Bank.

[#1-norm-fan]

I do hate that Rock is likely gonna take the title off Punk though. Not just for the obvious reason. But also, you've built up this incredible reign that hasn't been seen in decades and the guy who finally takes it from him is... The Rock? Rock winning the title again is big enough. I don't know when we'll see a reign like this again. It's a chance to make a huge moment for someone and it's gonna go to a guy who's already way more over than anyone on the roster.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree with you. I'd have Punk win and rub it in John Cena's face post-match. "I beat the man who beat you." Have Cena win the Royal Rumble and lock in Punk vs. Cena again for WrestleMania. Yeah, they've had a few matches lately, but it is MAGIC whenever the two work together. You can maybe have The Rock squeeze his way into their issues, and Punk is all "I'm done with you, Dwayne" and Cena is all "We have unfinished business, Rock," and Punk is all "This isn't about you two -- this is about me!"

If Punk heads into Mania with his current reign intact, he'll have crossed over the 500 day mark as WWE Champion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk would get the most out of a WrestleMania win there, too. Why not let this run go and see where it takes you? Punk vs. Ryback sometime next year could be massive given that Ryback remains winning and Punk remains WWE Champion.

[#1-norm-fan]

Punk vs Cena absolutely should not be the WWE Title match at WrestleMania. It's "magic" but it's "magic" that has been given away at Night of Champions, Hell in a Cell, Money in the Bank, SummerSlam and even RAW...

It's no longer a WrestleMania main event.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I guarantee you that Punk and Cena would be able to sell it as a main event.

[#1-norm-fan]

It would draw like it drew at Money in the Bank last year... or last year's SummerSlam... or the Raw the week after SummerSlam... or last year's Hell in a Cell... or Raw 1000... or Night of Champions... or this year's Hell in a Cell...

Not WrestleMania level at this point. Especially on their 8th, possibly more match in the last year and a half or so.

[#1-norm-fan]

Seriously... it would be at least the Eighth time they would have faced in the past 21 months. How does that scream "WrestleMania main event"? You'd be following Rock-Cena with a match that main evented Night of Champions among 6 other shows.

[CSL]

http://www.fwewrestling.com/538129_427065847316255_269896959_n.jpg

lol Ashley Massaro with the classy bookings

[#1-norm-fan]

Shawn Michaels :love:
Chris Masters :-\
Buff Bagwell :-\
Maryse :D
Ashely Massaro :-\ in a bikini :D

[GD]

I miss Carlito & Chris Masters.

[Emperor Smeat]

It would draw like it drew at Money in the Bank last year... or last year's SummerSlam... or the Raw the week after SummerSlam... or last year's Hell in a Cell... or Raw 1000... or Night of Champions... or this year's Hell in a Cell...

Not WrestleMania level at this point. Especially on their 8th, possibly more match in the last year and a half or so.

I could see it being a Wrestlemania worthy match but only if the end result is Punk finally gets cemented as the top star and clearly ends the feud in his favor.

Every big match he's had with Cena always enters with the match having the status of the defining moment/match only to have the following RAW having a promo by Cena or someone else claiming it wasn't but the next one will be.

[GD]

EW...

http://wwepredictor.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/new-wwe-title.png?w=722&h=505

[#1-norm-fan]

I could see it being a Wrestlemania worthy match but only if the end result is Punk finally gets cemented as the top star and clearly ends the feud in his favor.

Every big match he's had with Cena always enters with the match having the status of the defining moment/match only to have the following RAW having a promo by Cena or someone else claiming it wasn't but the next one will be.

Even then, at this point, it's not gonna come off as "the final showdown". It's not like either has given any hint of their career coming to an end soon. It's just gonna come off as the 8th installment of Cena-Punk... and a ridiculously huge let down after Rock-Cena last year. If Rock and Cena had faced seven times going into last year's match, do you think the 8th installment would have been WrestleMania worthy?

[Lock Jaw]

I agree that they shouldn't do it for this year's Wrestlemania, but if they make Hell in a Cell their last encounter, and keep them away from each other after that....

I could easily see Cena/Punk headlining a Wrestlemania down the line.

[#1-norm-fan]

I could see it at some point down the line if they go their separate ways. I think Punk needs to keep himself entrenched in that scene with Cena and Rock though. If they have him lose the title and he spends any time doing nothing and just kind of existing while the perceived "real main guys" go at it, kinda what a lot of newer guys end up doing after being pushed, it would be a huge blow to his character.

[CSL]

one of these doesn't seem right

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n38/von_muff/DSC_0006-13.jpg?t=1349087278

[CSL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>“@<a href="https://twitter.com/cmpunk">cmpunk</a>: I could retweet @<a href="https://twitter.com/rickygervais">rickygervais</a> brilliance all night.”Thank you kind sir.</p>&mdash; Ricky Gervais (@rickygervais) <a href="https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/252761533338234880" data-datetime="2012-10-01T13:27:00+00:00">October 1, 2012</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AIUdAi621qY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[GD]

Colt Cabana is becoming a bigger whining bitch with every new episode of his podcast.

[Innovator]

Then stop listening.

[Cool King]

https://apps.facebook.com/fanappz/poll/vote?id=33927&source=fa_publisher

Option 1:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2n0ufbt.jpg

Option 2:
http://i47.tinypic.com/r936oi.jpg

Option 3:
http://i45.tinypic.com/anzy4p.jpg

I like option 3.

[Dorkchop]

http://www.fcwwrestling.info/images/roster-images/mugshots/DBurch.jpghttp://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pwwe/65797865.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE officials are reportedly very high on NXT star Bo Dallas, brother to Bray Wyatt and son of WWE Legend IRS. The feeling is that he's excellent in the ring but needs some major work with promos.

Source is F4WOnline

I assume this means in the near future he's going to become the main focus on NXT.

Personally haven't really liked him on NXT and think Bray Wyatt is a lot better of the two brothers.

[#1-norm-fan]

It's not even close. If Bo Dallas becomes a major player before Bray Wyatt, wrestling is definitely broken.

[Nicky Fives]

The guy looks like he's a few french fries short of a Happy Meal..... he is very good for his age though.....

[Skippord]

Bo Dallas sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Innovator]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4JVAFuCMAA_iUC.jpg:large

[Razzamajazz]

swear i just saw eddie guerrero drive past me on a motorcycle today

[Hanso Amore]

one of these doesn't seem right

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n38/von_muff/DSC_0006-13.jpg?t=1349087278

I think its more like two that dont fit...

[Hanso Amore]

I dont know who is worse, Berzerker or Wrestling SuperStar Virgil

[Emperor Smeat]

http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/2c7faf500b4211e2a04e123138141145_7.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Good to see Maryse and Mark Henry hanging out together.

[#1-norm-fan]

swear i just saw eddie guerrero drive past me on a motorcycle today

They all look the same

[#1-norm-fan]

Guys riding motorcyles. Especially when they're wearing a helmet.

[Lock Jaw]

swear i just saw eddie guerrero drive past me on a motorcycle today

He's building up for his WWE Return.

He'll come out..... do a shimmy, grab the mic and go "GUESS WHAT, HOMES...... I LLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEED", and the fans will go banana.

[Lock Jaw]

I wish. :'(

[BizarroKing]

LOL Ryan Clark posted a link that reads "TNA officially announces Wrestlemania 29 event!"

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/9949/tna-officially-announces-wrestlemania-29-event

[Jura]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgsspxaCKw1qavutpo1_500.jpg

[CSL]

I think its more like two that dont fit...

Razor Ramon/Scott Hall in long tights yo!

[Cool King]

He's building up for his WWE Return.

He'll come out..... do a shimmy, grab the mic and go "GUESS WHAT, HOMES...... I LLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEED", and the fans will go banana.

I've always thought that if that did happen, hardly anyone would be pissed at him for lying.

They would just be happy that he's alive.

[Shadrick]

He's building up for his WWE Return.

He'll come out..... do a shimmy, grab the mic and go "GUESS WHAT, HOMES...... I LLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEED", and the fans will go banana.

I...I just....I think I would be so happy he's alive...and the mark in me would come out in such a full force that I would combust.

[Cool King]

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1349138046013/images/large/W04589.jpg
http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1349138046013/images/large/68264.jpg
http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1349138046013/images/large/W04434.jpg
http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1349138046013/images/large/W04604.jpg
http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1349138046013/images/large/W04599.jpg
http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1349138046013/images/large/W04597.jpg

[loopydate]

Did you guys see the feature on WWE.com about "Paul Heyman Guys?" (WWE.com/classics/paul-heyman-guys/) Paul made a list of ten guys that are "his" for one reason or another. Really interesting read, and I actually learned some new things.

[James Steele]

:lol: @ all those "Team Hell No" shirts.

[bigslimjj]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RtqIb7Mwal8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Have they got a new t-shirt designer? Because they're all pretty awesome and I even hate Zack Ryder.