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[Emperor Smeat]

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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GREAT NEWS! Congratulations to <a href="https://twitter.com/Total_Bellas">@Total_Bellas</a> stars Brie <a href="https://twitter.com/BellaTwins">@BellaTwins</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan">@WWEDanielBryan</a> on expecting their first child in Spring 2017! <a href="https://t.co/rXcZwqj4Ts">pic.twitter.com/rXcZwqj4Ts</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/783768311498702848">October 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Dark One]

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[Black Widow]

Congrats.

Now let's just hope that Flair doesn't claim to be the dad.

[Droford]

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I don't get hammered I stay hammered

[Mercenary]

Unlike the WWE is to Bayley.


Cause Bayley is awful

[Emperor Smeat]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Cause Bayley is awful

Says nobody relevant. You just don't find her attractive.

[Bad News Gertner]

She's butt ugly and boring.

[mike adamle]

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[mike adamle]

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Jerry "The Heart Attack King" Lawler

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I would assume they are stone cold props and he didn't eat any.

[mike adamle]

He ate like 5 on camera...

[mike adamle]

These are stone cold props http://ews.extremewrestling.netdna-cdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/s/c/scsavest_1.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Could just be him teasing but Ziggler recently revealed on Twitter October 10th is when he will be able to start taking indie and expo bookings.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">all bookings, starting October 10th will be through Luber/Roklin cc: <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanbrucks">@bryanbrucks</a> <a href="https://t.co/l5NoXU7A6r">https://t.co/l5NoXU7A6r</a></p>&mdash; Dolph Ziggler (@HEELZiggler) <a href="https://twitter.com/HEELZiggler/status/783794020271005696">October 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

That just makes it look like he thinks he will lose the match (kayfabe)

[Mercenary]

She's butt ugly and boring.


careful Std's feelings

[Triple A]

Good theme

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[Heisenberg]

Charlotte is coming into her own, the rest can't even touch Trish and Lita

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[Dark One]

I would assume they are stone cold props and he didn't eat any.

Lawler don't give a fuck.

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[mike adamle]

What do you mean he don't give a fuck, that's a diet coke right there!

[Volare]

Uso's need more mic time.

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[Innovator]

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[Frank Drebin]

Charlotte is coming into her own, the rest can't even touch Trish and Lita
Charlotte was a distant third on my fav list of the 4HW, but she's really been great. Dare I say underrated while everyone, self included, marks out for Sasha and Becky.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Uso's need more mic time.

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I assume you mean so they can get better, right?

[Mr. Nerfect]

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I fucking hate Mojo, but I want to love to hate him. Do you know what I mean?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lawler don't give a fuck.

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Kind of feel like Jerry Lawler is the greatest man of an era. Much like AJ Styles is today. I'm currently imagining how good Jerry Lawler in his prime vs. AJ Styles now -- in a battle outside of time -- would be.

[Gerard]

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LOL, thats fucked up. :rofl::lol::rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cause Bayley is awful

I'm actually coming around to this point. I was never a big fan in NXT (always thought that Becky got short-changed in her potential program with Sasha), but assumed that the gimmick could do no wrong in people's eyes.

"I belong here."
"This is my dream."
"I will prove to you."
"I belong here."
"I'm in the match too."
"I belong her."

It's like the lyrics without the music; the synopsis without the story. If I were a Bayley fan, I'd be extremely frustrated right now. But there is the possibility that she has just been exposed. Her promo skills have always been...questionable; and when she's not being led through a match that has had careful laying out, maybe she's just not that fucking good in the ring?

I kind of feel like a lot of the women are like cover bands that know how to play a set-list of certain songs, but when people start coming up to make requests, they really don't know how to play anything else. And that doesn't even extend to whether or not they can read music or write their own songs.

They market this as a "Revolution," but two of the best female wrestlers they have are sitting backstage, probably because they are either "too old" or "too ugly," because at the end of the day, the division is still about this:

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[Cool King]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Fignuts]

Bayley has always been the weaker of the 4hw in the ring, but I wouldn't say she's bad.

That said, her real ability is being able to connect emotionally with an audience. The other women can't even touch her in that category, and she's only going to get better at it.

[Heisenberg]

The Mortal Kombat in me wants Dana Brooke to be repackaged as Sindel

[ClockShot]

Chatter going around the net is that Gorilla Monsoon died.

Then again, someone could be fucking with Yahoo!.

[Fignuts]

Then she can just walk into a 6 pack challenge and murder everyone, effortlessly

[Fignuts]

But then Tatanka comes and summons his spirit gods to ddefeat her, sacrificing himself in the process.

[Fignuts]

Wow, I timed those posts very poorly. Thanks, clockshot.

[Tom Guycott]

Bayley has always been the weaker of the 4hw in the ring, but I wouldn't say she's bad.

That said, her real ability is being able to connect emotionally with an audience. The other women can't even touch her in that category, and she's only going to get better at it.

I think of the four, Lynch is actually the "weaker", but since everyone creams themselves over her midriff, this goes ignored.

Kinda goes into Noid's point.

And why the company was looking to push Eva Marie so hard in spite of her being awful.

Or why Nikki Bella and Kelly Kelly have record championship reigns.

Honestly, I think Bayley not being supermodelish works for her. It helps set her apart. And I personally still think she looks worlds better than Charlotte, mainly because I see her dad's face from the 80's on a female body. Kinda disturbing to me.

Not only does she have the connectability, she actually has some sort of character... and not one you have to discover by watching some auxillary show [total divas].

Nobody will ever get past the Playboy Bunny/pissbreak mindset without more Bayleys in the business.

[Tom Guycott]

Chatter going around the net is that Gorilla Monsoon died.

Then again, someone could be fucking with Yahoo!.

Will you stop.


Seriously, that isn't exactly "breaking news"... unless you wrote the wrong name there by accident.

[Fignuts]

I think of the four, Lynch is actually the "weaker", but since everyone creams themselves over her midriff, this goes ignored.



Lynch's mat wrestling is the best of the 4. Her counters, her transitions are all head and shoulders above the other 3. She hasn't had as amazing a performance as NXT takeover match against sasha, but she is capable of a lot more than she's shown on the main roster. Can't say mysrlf why she hasn't shown it yet.

[Wishbone]

Honestly I think they're all exceptional, just in different areas. That's really their strength though. It allows for the division to have a great deal of diversity IMO.

Like Fignuts said i think Becky is the best technician of the group. Others have pointed out that Bayley is the best at connecting with the fans on that emotional level ala Daniel Bryan. Meanwhile Sasha and Charlotte exude "star power."

[Simple Fan]

Agree that Bagley is the female Daniel Bryan. I can't stand either one.

[XL]

A lot of the charm of the Bayley character was lost in transition to the main roster.

Thing is they've but themselves in a Catch 22; if you re-tell the story that got her over in NXT you risk having it shit on by the vocal portion of the audience that already saw this story/know that she's better than struggling her way up the division past the likes of Summer Rae, however, without that story they'll find it harder to get people to connect with the character.

[Emperor Smeat]

Didn't help the WWE went too far back with reverting her character from what was built on NXT while also expecting everyone to already know everything about her from NXT.

Either they shouldn't have panicked and put her on RAW or should have her call up earlier since neither brand has a deep enough Women's division star-wise to do a retelling of her character's rise.

[Wishbone]

I think WWE's biggest mistake at this point is that they think more people watch NXT than actually do. They just assume that everyone watches NXT now or knows what is going on down there and so have forgotten how to do character building on the main roster because of it. They assume that everything comes prepackaged and ready to go when in reality they still need to add all the spices and cook it before the meal is ready to eat.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Chatter going around the net is that Gorilla Monsoon died.

Then again, someone could be fucking with Yahoo!.

He died in 1999.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Agree that Bagley is the female Daniel Bryan. I can't stand either one.

Daniel Bryan has more charisma in his finger than eli drake has in his entire body.

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Come see <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> Superstar <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE">@BeckyLynchWWE</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WizardWorldTulsa?src=hash">#WizardWorldTulsa</a>! <a href="https://t.co/9qlr7GvPsh">https://t.co/9qlr7GvPsh</a> <a href="https://t.co/FtBcCk9z4l">pic.twitter.com/FtBcCk9z4l</a></p>&mdash; Wizard World (@WizardWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/WizardWorld/status/783402712775876608">October 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Simple Fan]

Daniel Bryan has more charisma in his finger than eli drake has in his entire body.

I disagree. Personally I never seen one thing from Bryan that would intrest me in him. Guys just bland in my opinion. He could wrestle but his style was boring. Why do you get butt hurt everutime someone bashes Bryan or Bagley?

[Emperor Smeat]

I think WWE's biggest mistake at this point is that they think more people watch NXT than actually do. They just assume that everyone watches NXT now or knows what is going on down there and so have forgotten how to do character building on the main roster because of it. They assume that everything comes prepackaged and ready to go when in reality they still need to add all the spices and cook it before the meal is ready to eat.

Them not making their mind about NXT counting or not as canon for the main brands is also another big problem.

That's how you end up with situations like Emma who debuts looking like a goof since none of her NXT stuff counted but WWE still wanted her to act the same way. Or stuff like with Finn where his demon stuff gets treated as canon from the start even if everything that lead up to it was ignored.

[Droford]

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Jerry "The Heart Attack King" Lawler

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[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

New WWE comic book series sounds like it could maybe actually be "good"..... Not like some sort of weird "fantasy" thing, but supposedly grounded in the real storylines/characters.....

First story arc supposed to be a deep look at Seth Rollins, and his mind when he decided to turn on The Shield.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

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[Droford]

Eat it innnnn...mannnn

[Droford]

Ugh

[GD]

Can't believe Ken Doane was in the same building as John Cena at Smackdown Live. Talk about combustible elements.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think of the four, Lynch is actually the "weaker", but since everyone creams themselves over her midriff, this goes ignored.

Kinda goes into Noid's point.

And why the company was looking to push Eva Marie so hard in spite of her being awful.

Or why Nikki Bella and Kelly Kelly have record championship reigns.

Honestly, I think Bayley not being supermodelish works for her. It helps set her apart. And I personally still think she looks worlds better than Charlotte, mainly because I see her dad's face from the 80's on a female body. Kinda disturbing to me.

Not only does she have the connectability, she actually has some sort of character... and not one you have to discover by watching some auxillary show [total divas].

Nobody will ever get past the Playboy Bunny/pissbreak mindset without more Bayleys in the business.

Completely disagree on Lynch being the weakest of the four. It's definitely Bayley. Although Becky's midriff is amazing. They make her cover it up though, so she can't even use it to get over.

I agree that she might just have the best crowd connection -- but you do have to consider that she got over in NXT. That is a completely misleading audience. They also got to go along with her on a grand story. It seems like she's not going to get that on RAW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Can't believe Ken Doane was in the same building as John Cena at Smackdown Live. Talk about combustible elements.

Yeah, can we talk a bit about this please. That was surreal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I disagree. Personally I never seen one thing from Bryan that would intrest me in him. Guys just bland in my opinion. He could wrestle but his style was boring. Why do you get butt hurt everutime someone bashes Bryan or Bagley?

This might be your opinion, but evidence dictates that Bryan is 1,000,000x more charismatic than Eli Drake. His connection with audiences and success in the business state that. Charisma is not being loud and confident on the mic -- charisma is a leadership quality that makes people latch onto you.

I'm sure you can find plenty of people that find Bryan's nice guy act a bit boring and bland -- but it's not the dominant view. Eli Drake's career is not done yet, but if he is remembered for having better charisma than Daniel Bryan, I will be extremely surprised.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A lot of the charm of the Bayley character was lost in transition to the main roster.

Thing is they've but themselves in a Catch 22; if you re-tell the story that got her over in NXT you risk having it shit on by the vocal portion of the audience that already saw this story/know that she's better than struggling her way up the division past the likes of Summer Rae, however, without that story they'll find it harder to get people to connect with the character.

This. They also think that these characters get over by losing. I still cannot work out why they did that Triple Threat Match at Clash of Champions. Why not just Charlotte vs. Sasha? It seems they wanted Charlotte to keep her winning streak in tact but didn't want Sasha to get pinned. That shows where Bayley fits in the scheme of things.

Bayley had to come up after Brooklyn II. She just had to. She was running thin down there, but they didn't need to jam her into the title picture right away. Maybe an angle with Dana first? They could have put her on SmackDown and advertised her on RAW, so that people wouldn't get upset if they saw Nia Jax, for example, confront Charlotte, while they only expected Bayley.

It's all been handled with complete disregard for Bayley, to be honest.

[Innovator]

Becky's wardrobe designer is the biggest heel in the business

[Simple Fan]

This might be your opinion, but evidence dictates that Bryan is 1,000,000x more charismatic than Eli Drake. His connection with audiences and success in the business state that. Charisma is not being loud and confident on the mic -- charisma is a leadership quality that makes people latch onto you.

I'm sure you can find plenty of people that find Bryan's nice guy act a bit boring and bland -- but it's not the dominant view. Eli Drake's career is not done yet, but if he is remembered for having better charisma than Daniel Bryan, I will be extremely surprised.

I don't know I just never found Bryan entertaining. Not even when he was with Kane. The fact that I didn't like him and they gave him a mega push just made me dislike the guy even more. Sucks as a GM in my opinion as well. People love him because they get to throw their hands up and scream yes. Nothing drew me to him to him so to me the guy has no charisma. I don't know where the Eli Drake comparison even came from, I guess just because I'm a fan of the guy.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

THey didn't just say yes without being directed to. He had massive charisma to scream out Yes! Yes! Yes! I'm the World Heavyweight Champion! when he was a heel and it caught on.

[Simple Fan]

Didn't it start with No chants though. Or did he go from Yes to No back to Yes.

[GD]

Can't believe Ken Doane was in the same building as John Cena at Smackdown Live. Talk about combustible elements.

Yeah, can we talk a bit about this please. That was surreal.

Yeah mate. I remember the hype surrounding him with respect to his success in OVW. I am unsure about the backstage politics that led to his "downfall" and eventual release from the company.

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Cena ruined Ken's life and career. Fucked his girl and got him fired. Where's the love for the fellow Massachusetts wrestler John? Booo this man.

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't it start with No chants though. Or did he go from Yes to No back to Yes.

Started with YES chants, but he was still a heel so he didn't like the fans chanting YES, so he started chanting NO at them, which made the fans chant YES even more. When he turned face, he embraced the YES.

[GD]

Cena ruined Ken's life and career. Fucked his girl and got him fired. Where's the love for the fellow Massachusetts wrestler John? Booo this man.

That's a little harsh, Slicky. I don't think John Cena is a bad person.

[Fignuts]

Yeah mate. I remember the hype surrounding him with respect to his success in OVW. I am unsure about the backstage politics that led to his "downfall" and eventual release from the company.

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That's a little harsh, Slicky. I don't think John Cena is a bad person.

What are these posts? How can you say it's harsh when you don't even know what happened.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Speaking of guys who were hot in OVW and never transferred that success, Johnny Jeter. I still can't work out of he was that damn good, or if it was Heymans touch once again. This was disappointing to hear:

He told the Pancakes and Powerslams podcast that he was asked to appear, but that he declined because it would have been a conflict of interest with his current employer and that he is no longer in the pro-wrestling business.

[screech]

Who is this Eli Drake guy being talked about?

[Mercenary]

I disagree. Personally I never seen one thing from Bryan that would intrest me in him. Guys just bland in my opinion. He could wrestle but his style was boring. Why do you get butt hurt everutime someone bashes Bryan or Bagley?


He wants a three way with them

[Rammsteinmad]

So "reports" claim that Brock Lesnar vs. Shane McMahon is supposedly a lock for Wrestlemania 33.

Yay.

[GD]

Cena ruined Ken's life and career. Fucked his girl and got him fired. Where's the love for the fellow Massachusetts wrestler John? Booo this man.

That's a little harsh, Slicky. I don't think John Cena is a bad person.

What are these posts? How can you say it's harsh when you don't even know what happened.

I know everything that has ever happened. And if you were to pay more attention to the product, you'd know that Cena is all about Hustle, Loyality, and Respect.

[Simple Fan]

Who is this Eli Drake guy being talked about?

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[Mercenary]

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[Black Widow]

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My girl's are gonna want these but better not be ridiculously priced.

[slik]

Macho Michaelangelo, Ooooooh Yeah!




WWE and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Team Up for New Hybrid Action Figures

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IGN can exclusively reveal that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and WWE have joined forces for a one-of-a-kind collaboration called Ninja Superstars.


These co-branded action figures from Playmates Toys will feature Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles suited up as iconic WWE Superstars. Let's dive into the Ninja Superstars, which will be available exclusively at Walmart in early November.


There's leader Leonardo as WWE Superstar John Cena, hot-headed Raphael as WWE Hall of Famer Sting, brains-of-the-operation Donatello as WWE Superstar The Undertaker, and party dude Michelangelo as WWE Hall of Famer “Macho Man” Randy Savage.

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[Heisenberg]

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this pic isn't small enough. I'm predicting this guy lands in jail during or shortly after his iMPaCT run.

[slik]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[Rammsteinmad]

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Crazy to think it's been three years since all of this went down! Also crazy to think that Goldust is still under contract with WWE!

And also, after all that fighting Goldust did for Cody, just for Cody to leave the company. What a douche! [/kayfabe]

[Black Widow]

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[Cool King]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Cool King]

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[Schlomey]

Just found out I'm gonna be a dad. Convinced my wife if it's a boy his name is going to be Owen. She isn't a wrestling fan so I pulled a fast one .....

[Big Vic]

Should name him Kane

[Big Vic]

In the delivery room:

"That's gotta be!...that's gotta be Kane!"

[Schlomey]

That's literally hilarious to me......thank you.

[slik]

WWE has sent out 'package deal' emails for The Royal Rumble...and confirmed a NXT Takeover event at the Freeman Coliseum the night before, Saturday Jan 28th

[mike adamle]

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[slik]

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[Simple Fan]

Just found out I'm gonna be a dad. Convinced my wife if it's a boy his name is going to be Owen. She isn't a wrestling fan so I pulled a fast one .....

Congradulations but my first thought was that you were naming him after owenbrown not Kevin Owens.

[Triple A]

Sucks that the big debate and big G-Men game will be on during WWE No Mercy PPV...

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't know I just never found Bryan entertaining. Not even when he was with Kane. The fact that I didn't like him and they gave him a mega push just made me dislike the guy even more. Sucks as a GM in my opinion as well. People love him because they get to throw their hands up and scream yes. Nothing drew me to him to him so to me the guy has no charisma. I don't know where the Eli Drake comparison even came from, I guess just because I'm a fan of the guy.

You're allowed to find him entertaining. As a kid, I always found The Rock obnoxious and hoped that anyone he was in the ring with would kick his ass. That doesn't make my opinion on the matter objectively correct. I would never try to make the argument that The Rock isn't charismatic because nothing drew me to him.

I think you're assessment on the "YES!" chants are a little off. Bryan started the gimmick on SmackDown, as an over the top heel, chanting "YES!" to celebrated being the World Heavyweight Champion. If you haven't seen that run, I strongly recommend it. I never thought I would buy Bryan as a heel, but he was absolutely brilliant.

The loss to Sheamus at WrestleMania 28 did it. Fans felt robbed because they knew what a great wrestler he was, and when they got screwed out of Sheamus vs. Bryan AGAIN, they thought that was enough. It was based on the odyssey Bryan had taken to get to that spot, the skills he had acquired over years and years of training, and how the company handles talent like that. And that was the story they told too. Maybe some kids who didn't really get anything about Bryan didn't get the story at first, because they believe the WWE's story that there's only WWE, but even WWE was saying "No, this guy's career goes beyond us."

Pavlovian chanting is when you hear people saying "Yeah!" after Eli Drake yells "Dummy!". There's no magic to that whatsoever. "When I say dummy, you say yeah...dummy...I wasn't talking to you" is probably the...fuck, I can't even describe how stupid it is. It's like he's seen The Rock call out the fans for singing along, but he hasn't grasped the context, that The Rock was over, and that Rock didn't say "sing along" before telling them not to sing along.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Speaking of guys who were hot in OVW and never transferred that success, Johnny Jeter. I still can't work out of he was that damn good, or if it was Heymans touch once again. This was disappointing to hear:

Johnny Jeter was absolutely tremendous in OVW. :love:

He was soooo young at the time too, but acting like an actual old-school heel. There was a lot of 2002/2003 Chris Jericho in what he did.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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Crazy to think it's been three years since all of this went down! Also crazy to think that Goldust is still under contract with WWE!

And also, after all that fighting Goldust did for Cody, just for Cody to leave the company. What a douche! [/kayfabe]

Cody Rhodes & Goldust were such a wonderful team. Goldust coming back for that one spot was a great way to use veteran talent, and he kicked the door down and became one of the best babyfaces-in-perils in the business. Cody fucking flew off those hot tags too. They were the right choice to take the belts from The Shield.

They should have beaten The Outlaws and then gotten a straight tag match with The Usos at WrestleMania XXX. The Usos could have won, then Cody & Goldust could have turned heel in the wake, playing a veteran villain team (even though Cody was like 28) and been their first hurdles. They really fumbled with them post-Rumble.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know everything that has ever happened. And if you were to pay more attention to the product, you'd know that Cena is all about Hustle, Loyality, and Respect.

Stop trying to get your job back, Kenpachi Ramasama. Or should I say..."Mickpachie Jamesama"?

[Simple Fan]

You're allowed to find him entertaining. As a kid, I always found The Rock obnoxious and hoped that anyone he was in the ring with would kick his ass. That doesn't make my opinion on the matter objectively correct. I would never try to make the argument that The Rock isn't charismatic because nothing drew me to him.

I think you're assessment on the "YES!" chants are a little off. Bryan started the gimmick on SmackDown, as an over the top heel, chanting "YES!" to celebrated being the World Heavyweight Champion. If you haven't seen that run, I strongly recommend it. I never thought I would buy Bryan as a heel, but he was absolutely brilliant.

The loss to Sheamus at WrestleMania 28 did it. Fans felt robbed because they knew what a great wrestler he was, and when they got screwed out of Sheamus vs. Bryan AGAIN, they thought that was enough. It was based on the odyssey Bryan had taken to get to that spot, the skills he had acquired over years and years of training, and how the company handles talent like that. And that was the story they told too. Maybe some kids who didn't really get anything about Bryan didn't get the story at first, because they believe the WWE's story that there's only WWE, but even WWE was saying "No, this guy's career goes beyond us."

Pavlovian chanting is when you hear people saying "Yeah!" after Eli Drake yells "Dummy!". There's no magic to that whatsoever. "When I say dummy, you say yeah...dummy...I wasn't talking to you" is probably the...fuck, I can't even describe how stupid it is. It's like he's seen The Rock call out the fans for singing along, but he hasn't grasped the context, that The Rock was over, and that Rock didn't say "sing along" before telling them not to sing along.

Yeah I'm not going back and watching Bryan on Smackdown. I'm pretty sure that was about the same time as Punks long WWE title reign that I checked out on and quit watching for a while. I don't hate the guy I just feel he didn't have any business near the main event. Also any time he talks it feels like he's trying to remember lines but that's more of a WWE problem than a Bryan problem.

As for Drake I just find the guy entertaining and I dont remember him ever telling the fans to say yeah either. Started with his Dummy Yeah button. I dont see the Rock stuff like you do though, maybe in his tone a bit but I'm not going to fault a guy for learning something from one the greatest to ever step in the ring.

Personally I think its silly to compare WWE and TNA active talent. Its 2 totally different promotion on different levels. and that's also how I view them. I don't watch TNA expecting it to be the greatest wrestling show possible like I do with WWE. Same with ROH I don't hold them the same standards that I hold WWE to.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah I'm not going back and watching Bryan on Smackdown. I'm pretty sure that was about the same time as Punks long WWE title reign that I checked out on and quit watching for a while. I don't hate the guy I just feel he didn't have any business near the main event. Also any time he talks it feels like he's trying to remember lines but that's more of a WWE problem than a Bryan problem.

As for Drake I just find the guy entertaining and I dont remember him ever telling the fans to say yeah either. Started with his Dummy Yeah button. I dont see the Rock stuff like you do though, maybe in his tone a bit but I'm not going to fault a guy for learning something from one the greatest to ever step in the ring.

Personally I think its silly to compare WWE and TNA active talent. Its 2 totally different promotion on different levels. and that's also how I view them. I don't watch TNA expecting it to be the greatest wrestling show possible like I do with WWE. Same with ROH I don't hold them the same standards that I hold WWE to.

If you do anything a lot people will catch on. It's just weird that you apply that logic to the YES chants, which were actually over, but don't to the shit that is actually repeated because people know the lines. Like The Miz's "awesome" shtick.

The promotions are on two very different levels, you are correct. The gap has also widened because TNA has mismanaged itself and the talent there that was on a world class level. Now they are left with the dregs WWE doesn't want, because they either cut them from developmental because they saw nothing or they have histories of drug abuse and/or domestic violence.

AJ Styles was TNA. Samoa Joe was TNA. How do they compare? I'd probably say that AJ Styles is the best thing in WWE, and Joe could be right up there. It's TNA's fault they don't have them anymore, and have to rely on these guys that just aren't good enough to make developmental. There is plenty of talent that is not in WWE that is on that level, so I think that is a cop-out when it comes to Drake anyway.

As for him copying Rock? I get the theory, but it plays way too obviously. You also set expectations high and when you miss, you miss bad. You can take things that worked and filter them through your voice, but the guy just wants to be Rocky so bad, and it's so obvious.

[Simple Fan]

You are right on TNA mismanaging talent. I've said it before it one of TNAs biggest problems. But they have gotten everything right with EC3 and Eli Drake has been booked to be in that position as TNAs next up and coming name. Do I think he will be as successful as EC3 no but he's still a solid enough talent for TNA.

As for Bryan, I remember watching him when the NXT stuff was like Tough Enough on Raw. Stopped watching for a while and when I started back Bryan as in the main event and I just thought it was dumb. I'd seen him in ROH before but wasn't really impressed with him. Also know he has a bunch of fans and some are easy to troll by bashing him.

[Wishbone]

You are right on TNA mismanaging talent. I've said it before it one of TNAs biggest problems. But they have gotten everything right with EC3 and Eli Drake has been booked to be in that position as TNAs next up and coming name. Do I think he will be as successful as EC3 no but he's still a solid enough talent for TNA.

As for Bryan, I remember watching him when the NXT stuff was like Tough Enough on Raw. Stopped watching for a while and when I started back Bryan as in the main event and I just thought it was dumb. I'd seen him in ROH before but wasn't really impressed with him. Also know he has a bunch of fans and some are easy to troll by bashing him.

Dude, not to be a dick or anything, but you flat out admit that you missed out on the entire build that Bryan had before becoming a main event superstar. If you didn't see that build you will never understand why people like him, and since you refuse to even give that buildup a look you basically forfeit your ability to give a worthwhile opinion on him. What you're doing is the equivalent to watching the first 10 minutes of Star Wars and then skipping to the very end. Of course you're not gonna understand why something is considered great when you miss out on the entire story.

[Black Widow]

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Should replace Cranston as Zordon.

[Simple Fan]

I agree with you some what but its not like I haven't ever seen him. Of what I've seen I haven't liked. I doubt if I went back and watched that it would change my opinion of the guy. Its more than just his yes chants that I find annoying. I hated his finisher and he was boring in the ring but that's just me. There are some talent you just don't like and Daniel Bryan is one of mine. You guys can like him all you want, he just does nothing for me. I'd never skip through Star Wars by the way.

[Wishbone]

I get what you're saying, I'm just saying that if you aren't going to check out what made people like him you'll never really "get it" is all. I think if you had seen his rise you'd at least have an understanding of what Noid is saying when he says that Bryan has charisma. I mean the fact that you didn't know how the YES! chants started is part of what I mean. Looking at something like those chants in the context you saw them in it's easy to just think "it's people just following along," but if you'd seen how they started and evolved you'd realize that it took a lot of charisma and talent to get people to chant YES! so passionately.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Simple Fan]

Another thing is Bryan's fans. They are a bunch of babies. Hated WM 30 as the fans cried because Bryan was eliminated from the Rumble. Was way more interested in seeing Orton vs Batista than the shit they put on. Bryan going over all of Evolution in one night just wasn't believable to me. I'd say his fans are one of the main reason I dislike the guy.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

DJ at the club I'm at has a Booty O'S shirt and I've got my New Day Rocks vintage shirt on... Plus it's officially my birthday, so I've had anything I like on. Good times.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Another thing is Bryan's fans. They are a bunch of babies. Hated WM 30 as the fans cried because Bryan was eliminated from the Rumble. Was way more interested in seeing Orton vs Batista than the shit they put on. Bryan going over all of Evolution in one night just wasn't believable to me. I'd say his fans are one of the main reason I dislike the guy.

I think wrestling fans are one of the biggest problems with wrestling today. Because it's been reduced to hardcore fans who are going to watch no matter what, shit like Broken Matt and Kevin Owens gets through. We don't have the right set of eyes to gauge what casual fans are into, and ultimately we end up pushing guys that work within our ironic taste of wrestling.

Orton vs. Batista was a horrible idea though, and you just are plain wrong about that. Sorry.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Counterpoint:

Kevin Owens is the spiritual successor to Steve Austin, and will be over as fuck if he eventually turns face.

He is the real "every man." He doesn't look like an athlete, he's not "larger than life," but he has a smart ass, sarcastic attitude. And it's the type of attitude that isn't typical for a bully, but the type of attitude that the smart ass who is used to being picked on has, so he says sarcastic shit dryly.

Plus he has a goofy best friend who he fights with, and another best friend who really isn't his friend.

People want Rollins vs HHH, but Owens vs HHH is so much more compelling.

There are just very few people on the roster who can connect to the people at a base level like KO can.

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[Vastardikai]

I talked to an old friend here recently, and we laughed at Seth's Snoopy Dance.

[Mercenary]

No Tipsters ?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Found out I have axs tv channel. Set up series recording for New Japan pro. Watched a show last night that featured Anderson and Gallows in the main event dropping the tag belts.

Enjoyed what I saw. Enjoyed the press conference post match promo style as well. Jim Ross was meh on commentary. Sounded like he was phoning it in. But the product itself was fun.

Hoping I'll catch on to it.

[Simple Fan]

Found out I have axs tv channel. Set up series recording for New Japan pro. Watched a show last night that featured Anderson and Gallows in the main event dropping the tag belts.

Enjoyed what I saw. Enjoyed the press conference post match promo style as well. Jim Ross was meh on commentary. Sounded like he was phoning it in. But the product itself was fun.

Hoping I'll catch on to it.

If you would have found it a week earlier you could have seen AJ Styles vs Nakamura at WrestleKingdom for the IC title. I think they will be doing 2 more shows of Wrestle Kingdom in the following weeks. Ross is literally phoning it in though as the shows are about 10 months behind and they just record commentary for axs TV.

[Volare]

Happy weekend yall. Blast from the past.

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Drat. Hopefully I'll run into it since I have it set to record the series. Yeah. I was sure he was calling matches that happened months ago. But fuck, where's the old JR?

Gallows and Anderson's opponents were being put over as a journeyman team with one of the guys being 39, and being a career loveable loser. JR was flat as fuck when they pulled off a seeming upset.

But I don't wanna focus on the meh commentary. The matches, the set up, and the storylines mentioned going into the matches were fun and fresh. Really strong first impression.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Counterpoint:

Kevin Owens is the spiritual successor to Steve Austin, and will be over as fuck if he eventually turns face.

He is the real "every man." He doesn't look like an athlete, he's not "larger than life," but he has a smart ass, sarcastic attitude. And it's the type of attitude that isn't typical for a bully, but the type of attitude that the smart ass who is used to being picked on has, so he says sarcastic shit dryly.

Plus he has a goofy best friend who he fights with, and another best friend who really isn't his friend.

People want Rollins vs HHH, but Owens vs HHH is so much more compelling.

There are just very few people on the roster who can connect to the people at a base level like KO can.

I can see that. If they were going to put the Uni Title on him, I'd rather they had done it cleanly and moved into Owens vs. Company Golden Boy Reigns. I do think that as a face he'll have a lot more "oomph" behind him.

It'll be interesting to see if he does connect. I think he connects with the geeks that eat this shit up -- perhaps too much of it without asking questions. They did that market research on the appeal certain talent had, and Owens tested really low. I don't know how much stock you want to put into shit like that, but I sometimes do wonder if there's really that mainstream appeal in him that we project.

I once heard someone (I guess you could call them a "casual fan," if you want to go that far with it) respond to Owens as a "like a joke wrestler" because he's the opposite of what you think of when you think of a wrestler. I'd never thought of it exactly like that, but it is somewhat true to an almost exact degree:

* He's not loud and bombastic; he's calculated and articulate.

* He's not tall and ripped; he's short and fat.

* He doesn't get oiled up and wear tights; he covers himself up in baggy clothes.

* He doesn't look like he's getting into a real fight; he does this outrageous stunt display.

In a weird sort of way, I can kind of see how a casual fan might interpret Owens to be a parody of wrestling. We obviously don't think like that, because we're in the thick of things. I do think that I'd rather see him as a face than a heel though. Roman Reigns needs that heel turn, and if he robbed Owens of the Uni Title and Owens had to fight against the system that chewed him up and spat him out, we might be onto something.

[Wishbone]

I've always been of the opinion that it doesn't matter what a character looks like, it's how you use them that counts. IMHO Owens has plenty of potential to be a star. The issue is with the storytelling and context in which he is portrayed.

WWE has guys who look and "feel" like megastars, but they never reached it (see Bray Wyatt, Roman Reigns, etc.) The reason for this has nothing to do with the guys themselves and everything to do with the way WWE presented them. Bray isn't a mega-heel right now because WWE had him lose pretty much every feud he's been in and in general made him look like a joke. And in the case of both Reigns and Wyatt they screwed up by giving neither compelling stories to help fans get behind what was going on. If Undertaker had lost 90% of his matches and was made to look like I liar every time he said something scary would he have succeeded? No. If Austin hadn't had the attitude and aggression he did and instead just made childish jokes and smiled, and if he hadn't had the McMahon stuff and all the other rivalries we remember would he have gotten over like he did? I don't think so personally.

You look at TV today and you see a lot of top shows involving characters that aren't what you'd typically think would appeal to the mass market. Nerdy, quirky, geeky, these are things that have become extremely appealing in mass media over the last few years, and I think WWE needs to evolve and embrace these things if they want to survive. Comics have begun to embrace this with more and more characters becoming more lighthearted and "geeky" and less being badasses who are "dark and brooding" like they were in the 80s and 90s, and the result of this shift has been increased sales in comic books to a point they haven't been in ages. TV has also begun to see a shift toward this with fewer super serious characters and more lighthearted and relateable ones.

Anyway that's just my two cents. Personally I think if WWE just got their shit together and created stories people actually cared about it wouldn't matter what their wrestlers looked like (within reason of course.) I'm not saying Kevin shouldn't get a slight makeover as his current ring gear looks a little cheap, but he doesn't need to completely change himself in my opinion.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I think look does matter. It's not the be-all, end-all, but it's not irrelevant. How you use it is definitely important.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I agree with Noid. Owens doesn't have to get shredded but the least he could do is trim up so his belly doesn't stick out further than his chest.

I guess I'd want him to look like he actually works out.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ziggles/Miz news

In the latest edition of WOR, Meltzer mentioned that WWE has sent tapes to cable providers containing celebration of Ziggler's career to air this Tuesday, following the No Mercy PPV. So, they're either gonna play out the retirement angle throughout the following weeks OR he's really gone from the company.

[Tom Guycott]

Ziggles/Miz news

In the latest edition of WOR, Meltzer mentioned that WWE has sent tapes to cable providers containing celebration of Ziggler's career to air this Tuesday, following the No Mercy PPV. So, they're either gonna play out the retirement angle throughout the following weeks OR he's really gone from the company.

What's Dig Duggler* doing in the Impact Zone?!?



*callback to a joke that came up the last time he was rumored to be leaving that quickly evolved into Mr. Nemeth's new gimmick: (CM Punk's impression of Vince McMahon) "You're gonna get all white gear..." , a bicycle pump, and theme music that plays only while he's moving.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Tom Guycott]

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If only Punk had stuck around... he could have *finally* been Casey Jones.

Really digging that DonnieTaker.

Weird, though. Shouldn't Leo be Hulk Hogan, brother? I mean, they're all dressed like fans that the WWE fun police move off camera, so it fits.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Just glad they didn't pick Floman Drains for one of them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Creatively, I think leaving would be the best thing for Ziggler. There's just nothing fresh for him to do. If he's a free talent, I'd like to see him ROH/New Japan. I think he'd be a good choice to dethrone Adam Cole for when Cole gets signed to the WWE.

But I have a feeling the WWE will either turn this into an angle or sign Ziggler to some sort of no-compete deal where he still works for the company and gets to do his comedy and approved independent dates.

[Poit]

Ravishing Rusev

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[Gerard]

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Somebody has had some surgery, barely recognised her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Rusev is going to be a huge star. I'm calling it.

[Black Widow]

Rusev is going to be a huge star. I'm calling it.Talk about lowering people's standards WoW!

[Lock Jaw]

Nobody is going to be a huge star

[Volare]

Hillbilly Jim was a huge star!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nobody is going to be a huge star

I'm thinking Rusev bucks that trend. In a relative sense. He'd probably get punished for it if he did though.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Bad News Gertner]

Finished Pat Patterson's book. It's really good.

[Shisen Kopf]

Finished Pat Patterson's book. It's really good.

did you catch the gay from reading it?

[Triple A]

Pretty alright NY Times profile about Dave MELTZER I stumbled upon while looking for pics of him

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/sports/wrestling-reporter-dave-meltzer-tries-to-keep-it-real.html

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

lol he's a horder.

Meltzer sheep.

[Black Widow]

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[The CyNick]

Reigns is so much like Cena to me. I don't understand why anyone dislikes him.

[Black Widow]

I can think of plenty of reasons and 95% of them are stupid.

[Innovator]

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[GD]

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[Big Vic]

Reigns is so much like Cena to me. I don't understand why anyone dislikes him.

Because he does heelish things while booked as a face

[Nicky Fives]

He is the real "every man." He doesn't look like an athlete, he's not "larger than life," but he has a smart ass, sarcastic attitude.


These statements represent both Stone Cold & Owens in my eyes, and I agree with your thoughts 100%

[Innovator]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am the best dressed GM in the <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a>.The other 2 could spend a million $ on clothes and still look like they are homeless.Scruffy tramps.</p>&mdash; William Regal (@RealKingRegal) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal/status/785649969223110657">October 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

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[The CyNick]

Because he does heelish things while booked as a face

You mean like get booked to beat the fan favorite billy goat? What a dastardly heel!

[Big Vic]

Like interrupting someone's wedding celebration to beat up the groom and throw the bride into the cake.

[The CyNick]

Like interrupting someone's wedding celebration to beat up the groom and throw the bride into the cake.

Cobra at the reception is a heel move. Cake in the face is a right being made by the hound of justice.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/85a4d997be7d3f501911738c24cb27ab/tumblr_oedsuwuHLF1qlhou3o2_500.jpg

Former Japanese wrestler and ref Nikkan Lee who was recently signed by the WWE. Became the 1st ever female ref for NXT and the 1st since the 80s WWE had a female ref on their roster.

[Jordan]

I live in NYC and saw Alberto and Paige this morning walking through Times Square. I was wearing my Macho Man shirt, and Paige totally check me out, then gave Alberto a big squeeze. But seriously, she checked me out. I didn't fan boy or as for a pic because they looked really tired and I figured I'd cause a scene.

[Jordan]

Paige looked so much hotter up close than on TV.

[Jordan]

Also I didn't want Alberto to yell at me. :?:

[Rammsteinmad]

Paige is still overrated.

[Maluco]

Reigns is so much like Cena to me. I don't understand why anyone dislikes him.

It you stripped Cena of his charisma, energy, talent (freestyling in his initial push) and personality, yeah ,they are similar :$

[Vastardikai]

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Former Japanese wrestler and ref Nikkan Lee who was recently signed by the WWE. Became the 1st ever female ref for NXT and the 1st since the 80s WWE had a female ref on their roster.

I hope she stays out of linos with Vince in them.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

Emo Cena

[The CyNick]

It you stripped Cena of his charisma, energy, talent (freestyling in his initial push) and personality, yeah ,they are similar :$

Reigns has charisma. Gets the biggest pops in RAW. must be doing something right.

[slik]

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[Big Vic]

Reigns has charisma. Gets the biggest pops in RAW. must be doing something right.

None of what you said is true.

[Big Vic]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/85a4d997be7d3f501911738c24cb27ab/tumblr_oedsuwuHLF1qlhou3o2_500.jpg

Former Japanese wrestler and ref Nikkan Lee who was recently signed by the WWE. Became the 1st ever female ref for NXT and the 1st since the 80s WWE had a female ref on their roster.

She was a ref for a year

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[Cool King]

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[slik]

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[Rammsteinmad]

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Fuck.

[Volare]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Nicky Fives]

I don't get this Ellsworth hype. Heard him on Jericho's podcast and he seems like a super nice guy, but why can't someone already on the roster be put in here with Styles? Curtis Axel? Neville? Bo Dallas? Anyone who only gets 5-minute matches on Superstars/Main Event every week?

[Triple A]

Is there a thread just for wrestling gifs on here

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[Lock Jaw]

Any thread Dark One is in....... or this one is fine too.....

[XL]

I don't get this Ellsworth hype. Heard him on Jericho's podcast and he seems like a super nice guy, but why can't someone already on the roster be put in here with Styles? Curtis Axel? Neville? Bo Dallas? Anyone who only gets 5-minute matches on Superstars/Main Event every week?

Well, to start with, all 3 of those guys are Raw exclusive talents.

[Shadrick]

I don't get this Ellsworth hype. Heard him on Jericho's podcast and he seems like a super nice guy, but why can't someone already on the roster be put in here with Styles? Curtis Axel? Neville? Bo Dallas? Anyone who only gets 5-minute matches on Superstars/Main Event every week?

Because WWE is trying to bring back jobber roles. Brooklyn Brawler-esque jobber roles.

[Rammsteinmad]

Have WWE acknowledged Curt Hawkins' previous WWE run since these vignettes started airing? Unless I've missed anything, it feels like they're trying to promote him as a complete newbie.

[Evil Vito]

Although I really don't like the idea of interpromotional matches happening this early.....I guess I can live with it if Survivor Series becomes the new Bragging Rights every year and they actually put more focus on Survivor Series tag matches.

Having said that, if they're going to do that I'd like them to properly commit to it and actually put most of the big names into the fray. I'm thinking I'd line the interpromotional matches on the card up like this:


AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, John Cena, Dolph Ziggler, and The Miz vs. Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and Braun Strowman

I'm guessing Cena will be back for this show even if he's off television most of the time. Styles/Ambrose and Miz/Ziggler will probably still be feuding so tension will probably be built through to TLC. I've left Orton and Wyatt off the team as they're likely to be having another PPV match and Wyatt seems like the last person who would give a shit about putting everything else aside for the sake of "brand pride".

Owens/Jericho/Rollins will have their own stuff going on the Raw side. I feel bad not having Rusev as one of the "top 5" guys on Raw but his feud with Reigns is hopefully ending at HIAC and I just think it'd be better for his character to stay away from Reigns once its done. Plus Strowman being added makes sense with him demanding "better competition".


Heath Slater/Rhyno, The Usos, American Alpha, The Hype Bros, and The Ascension vs. The New Day, Gallows/Anderson, Enzo/Cass, Sheamus/Cesaro, Zayn/Neville

The Ascension seem higher on the pecking order to fill that last SmackDown spot over Breezango or The Vaudevillians...if The Spirit Squad are signed as a team full-time then maybe they'd get the spot but there isn't any indication that their recent stint is more than just a temporary gig.

I think Zayn and Neville will continue teaming up for a while which will make them eligible to be in this match for Raw. If they're not, then it's a toss up between Golden Truth or The Shining Stars for the last spot.


Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella, Alexa Bliss, Naomi, and Natalya vs. Charlotte, Sasha Banks, Bayley, Dana Brooke, and Nia Jax

This one is pretty cut and dry. I guess Carmella could go in over Naomi or Natalya but I'm thinking she drops another match to Nikki Bella to earn a spot on the team. There's little guess work needed on the Raw side, those the most logical five.


Rusev, Bo Dallas, Titus O'Neil, and Golden Truth vs. Baron Corbin, Jack Swagger, Apollo Crews, and Breezango

This feels like something they'd just throw on the pre-show to set the tone. Rusev deserves better but at least he'd be able to tear through guys in this one. And hey maybe he'll make Jack Swagger tap out to the Accolade, that's never happened before.


Add in Goldberg/Lesnar, Orton/Wyatt, and a Cruiserweight Title match and even though that's only 6 matches for the main card it feels like it'd be more than enough to fill out a card given that a lot of them would run long.

[slik]

He is done, WM32 was it

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[Heisenberg]

ahh gawd, those are obviously her crutches, dammit

[mike adamle]

Yeah that doesn't really mean anything. He always looks disheveled around this time of the year and comes back Mania time looking better than ever. Most times. No way his last wrestling match was against Shane McMahon.

[Rammsteinmad]

Dammit, got me excited then.

[Innovator]

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Cena's face upon learning that Bryan and Brie didn't shower after sex

[Volare]

Looks more like he's thinking ABOUT them having sex more.

[The CyNick]

I don't get this Ellsworth hype. Heard him on Jericho's podcast and he seems like a super nice guy, but why can't someone already on the roster be put in here with Styles? Curtis Axel? Neville? Bo Dallas? Anyone who only gets 5-minute matches on Superstars/Main Event every week?

People like you would still complain.

The end game for this storyline is Styles murders this geek and sends him packing. If you put say Neville in that same spot with that same outcome people would go "derp they are burying Neville, he should be at least a transitional world champion derp".

Even worse if this was HHH in the Styles spot geeks like Noid would be like "OMG he's always holding guys down, he's a pariah".

So you can never win.

[Black Widow]

The match won't happen cause AJ attacks him before the match.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

I hope this is the start of Top Rope Theater Season 2

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Nicky Fives]

People like you would still complain.

The end game for this storyline is Styles murders this geek and sends him packing. If you put say Neville in that same spot with that same outcome people would go "derp they are burying Neville, he should be at least a transitional world champion derp".

Even worse if this was HHH in the Styles spot geeks like Noid would be like "OMG he's always holding guys down, he's a pariah".

So you can never win.

I would not complain seeing Neville actually being used at all.... I'd rather a guy on the roster get the spotlight and do a job in 1 5-minute match than watch someone not on the roster job in under 2..... Save the jobbers for Strowman & Nia Jax......

[Nicky Fives]

He is done, WM32 was it

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She's in a walking boot, so maybe they are her crutches.....

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Scroll up.

[Vastardikai]

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Cena's face upon learning that Mickie James is coming back to WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Although I really don't like the idea of interpromotional matches happening this early.....I guess I can live with it if Survivor Series becomes the new Bragging Rights every year and they actually put more focus on Survivor Series tag matches.

Having said that, if they're going to do that I'd like them to properly commit to it and actually put most of the big names into the fray. I'm thinking I'd line the interpromotional matches on the card up like this:


AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, John Cena, Dolph Ziggler, and The Miz vs. Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, and Braun Strowman

I'm guessing Cena will be back for this show even if he's off television most of the time. Styles/Ambrose and Miz/Ziggler will probably still be feuding so tension will probably be built through to TLC. I've left Orton and Wyatt off the team as they're likely to be having another PPV match and Wyatt seems like the last person who would give a shit about putting everything else aside for the sake of "brand pride".

Owens/Jericho/Rollins will have their own stuff going on the Raw side. I feel bad not having Rusev as one of the "top 5" guys on Raw but his feud with Reigns is hopefully ending at HIAC and I just think it'd be better for his character to stay away from Reigns once its done. Plus Strowman being added makes sense with him demanding "better competition".


Heath Slater/Rhyno, The Usos, American Alpha, The Hype Bros, and The Ascension vs. The New Day, Gallows/Anderson, Enzo/Cass, Sheamus/Cesaro, Zayn/Neville

The Ascension seem higher on the pecking order to fill that last SmackDown spot over Breezango or The Vaudevillians...if The Spirit Squad are signed as a team full-time then maybe they'd get the spot but there isn't any indication that their recent stint is more than just a temporary gig.

I think Zayn and Neville will continue teaming up for a while which will make them eligible to be in this match for Raw. If they're not, then it's a toss up between Golden Truth or The Shining Stars for the last spot.


Becky Lynch, Nikki Bella, Alexa Bliss, Naomi, and Natalya vs. Charlotte, Sasha Banks, Bayley, Dana Brooke, and Nia Jax

This one is pretty cut and dry. I guess Carmella could go in over Naomi or Natalya but I'm thinking she drops another match to Nikki Bella to earn a spot on the team. There's little guess work needed on the Raw side, those the most logical five.


Rusev, Bo Dallas, Titus O'Neil, and Golden Truth vs. Baron Corbin, Jack Swagger, Apollo Crews, and Breezango

This feels like something they'd just throw on the pre-show to set the tone. Rusev deserves better but at least he'd be able to tear through guys in this one. And hey maybe he'll make Jack Swagger tap out to the Accolade, that's never happened before.


Add in Goldberg/Lesnar, Orton/Wyatt, and a Cruiserweight Title match and even though that's only 6 matches for the main card it feels like it'd be more than enough to fill out a card given that a lot of them would run long.

I get doing the RAW vs. SmackDown matches, although I don't like how it is going to muddle-up face/heel dynamics, but I'd rather they didn't do the tag team one. Actually, I'd rather just see one on the RAW side.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Spent some coffee time this morning running through a random WrestleMania card. Obviously you can't predict what will happen this far out, but it's sort of a more "realistic" card than the ones in the ideal card thread.

WWE World Championship
AJ Styles (c) vs. John Cena

Triple Threat Match for the Universal Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Balor

Brock Lesnar (w/ Paul Heyman) vs. Bobby Lashley (w/ Shane McMahon)

The Undertaker vs. Rusev (w/ Lana)

RAW Tag Team Championship
The Revival (c) vs. Big Show & Shaquille O'Neall

The King of Kings vs. The King of Strong Style
Triple H vs. Shinsuke Nakamura

Eight-Woman Tag Team Match
Emmalina, Asuka, Nia Jax & Nikki Bella vs. Charlotte, Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch & Bayley

Fatal 4-Way Match
Randy Orton vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Luke Harper

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Won by Big E

United States Championship
Roman Reigns (c) vs. Sami Zayn

Ladder Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. The Miz vs. Kane vs. Kalisto vs. Zack Ryder vs. Heath Slater vs. Apollo Crews

SmackDown Tag Team Championship
The Usos (c) vs. American Alpha

Cruiserweight Championship
TJ Perkins (c) vs. Kota Ibushi

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't know whether or not to start a new thread for this, but I was thinking about NXT as a developmental territory the other day.

Triple H gets all this praise for what he's done down there, but just to play devil's advocate: which stars did NXT create? OVW gave the world John Cena, Randy Orton and Brock Lesnar. Batista said he learnt nothing there, so I won't include him in that list. NXT is based on the skeleton of FCW, and it has been around for four years now. If you go from the period OVW worked as a developmental territory for years deep, you get a whole list of guys that got their start there that ended up in WWE.

All of the NXT talent that have found success have seemingly been from the indies. They might have learnt valuable things in NXT, true, but when it comes to wrestling skill, who has NXT actually produced? You could make a case for the women, but they also need a lot of production to make their matches click.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wouldn't it be nice to see Kenny & Mikey with the Tag Team Titles again? Glad to see them back. Well, I haven't watched a show they've been on yet, but I am happy for them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I never really got to listen to much of Kevin Kelly's commentary. I'm doing some research on him now. His Wikipedia page says that he was the chief mind behind the Triple H/Stephanie McMahon getting together storyline and was a talent scout for WWE. He seemed like a really involved and passionate dude. Does anyone know how he came to lose influence?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm reading up on Dan Severn. Man was a fucking beast -- hence the nickname, I suppose. I came into wrestling after his WWF run, so I'm quite unfamiliar with him. Obviously you hear the stories, the rumors, the praise and the criticisms, but I'm kind of excited to go back and actually watch some of his stuff with a more mature eye.

On paper, this guy is a legitimate legend and he STILL fucking wrestles. What a champ.

[The CyNick]

I would not complain seeing Neville actually being used at all.... I'd rather a guy on the roster get the spotlight and do a job in 1 5-minute match than watch someone not on the roster job in under 2..... Save the jobbers for Strowman & Nia Jax......

If you think that spot makes sense for Neville then either you think Neville is hot garbage or you don't understand the angle. I think it's the latter.

I'm going to be running a seminar to teach Internet fans the business. I recommend you attend.

[The CyNick]

I get doing the RAW vs. SmackDown matches, although I don't like how it is going to muddle-up face/heel dynamics, but I'd rather they didn't do the tag team one. Actually, I'd rather just see one on the RAW side.

Does RAW even have ten teams?

Survivor Series format is perfect for the RAW v SDL storyline. It doesn't seem that special right now because the split just happened a few months ago. But in the future this will create some cool moments to see guys touch who haven't touched in years. No homo. Curious if they go the route of having several RAW v SD matches at Mania. This would be the spot to plant some seeds.

[The CyNick]

Spent some coffee time this morning running through a random WrestleMania card. Obviously you can't predict what will happen this far out, but it's sort of a more "realistic" card than the ones in the ideal card thread.

WWE World Championship
AJ Styles (c) vs. John Cena

Triple Threat Match for the Universal Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Balor

Brock Lesnar (w/ Paul Heyman) vs. Bobby Lashley (w/ Shane McMahon)

The Undertaker vs. Rusev (w/ Lana)

RAW Tag Team Championship
The Revival (c) vs. Big Show & Shaquille O'Neall

The King of Kings vs. The King of Strong Style
Triple H vs. Shinsuke Nakamura

Eight-Woman Tag Team Match
Emmalina, Asuka, Nia Jax & Nikki Bella vs. Charlotte, Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch & Bayley

Fatal 4-Way Match
Randy Orton vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Luke Harper

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Won by Big E

United States Championship
Roman Reigns (c) vs. Sami Zayn

Ladder Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. The Miz vs. Kane vs. Kalisto vs. Zack Ryder vs. Heath Slater vs. Apollo Crews

SmackDown Tag Team Championship
The Usos (c) vs. American Alpha

Cruiserweight Championship
TJ Perkins (c) vs. Kota Ibushi

You doing some bad booker gimmick? I was going to say it's beneath you, but then I looked who it was. Nothing is beneath you.

[GD]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Owens does the Rock's people's elbow drop followed with Seth Rollins doing Hulk Hogan's big boot &amp; leg drop �� <a href="https://t.co/BpPL4oSAQl">pic.twitter.com/BpPL4oSAQl</a></p>&mdash; Jordan (@paige_army) <a href="https://twitter.com/paige_army/status/786801541646659584">October 14, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[mike adamle]

You doing some bad booker gimmick? I was going to say it's beneath you, but then I looked who it was. Nothing is beneath you.

Couldn't agree more

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Mick Foley very politely "called out" Bret Hart and Bret Hart surprising did not respond via tearing Mick Foley a new asshole, and was actually very apologetic about coming across as bitter. Interesting to see Bret somewhat "cool off" on his opinions. I'm guessing when the Micker feels the need to kind of be like "c'mon Bret" it'd make the guy think.

Love the Hitman though. Him being a giant mark for himself and sort of deriding everyone for not being on his level while sometimes face palm worthy is part of his charm. I'm happy to see he didn't lose it on Mick though, given Mick is a top notch guy (at least seemingly so).

[Evil Vito]

I do love Mick but I have kinda rolled my eyes a bit at how defensive he's been about the product in his posts the past few months. Considering that not all that long ago he was writing about how he broke a TV because he wasn't happy with a PPV ending.

Guess it's only natural that his opinions changed once he was put back on the WWE payroll.

[Triple A]

lol what the hell...

Lesnar "destroying" a one legged wrestler in front of his mom... seems good...

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I do love Mick but I have kinda rolled my eyes a bit at how defensive he's been about the product in his posts the past few months. Considering that not all that long ago he was writing about how he broke a TV because he wasn't happy with a PPV ending.

Guess it's only natural that his opinions changed once he was put back on the WWE payroll.

The Micker has to up his political game. Being too candid has cost him a couple of times in the past. The best he can do is defend the product on the frontlines and try his best to improve whatever he can behind the scenes. It'd be rather unprofessional of him to take a steaming dump on the company responsible for his paycheque.

[Cool King]

So some extra seats were added to both Raw and SmackDown for when they come to Glasgow and I've managed to get myself tickets, so I can now say that I'm going to SmackDown!

The seats are probably not great as I'm sitting to the left of the stage and I've never been to the arena in my life so I don't know what the view will be like. I just hope nothing is in my way or that I'm hidden behind the set. My seat is in the blue circle in section 056. I'll be doing some research on my seat to see if I can find out what the view will be like and so on.

https://s22.postimg.org/fgnw2qetd/seat.png

Hopefully things will be alright, as they were the best seats available in what was a mad rush to acquire tickets as they were disappearing in the blink of an eye, but even if things aren't perfect, I'll still be able to say that I've actually been to SmackDown and not just house shows.

[Cool King]

I may or may not take a sign with me.

It all depends on what my seat will be like.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably could have bought second hand tickets somewhere...... not sure if they have something like "stubhub" there...... would pay more than the tickets were worth, but you could get better seats......

[Lock Jaw]

Congrats on going, though.

Please bring a "Straight Fire" sign for Becky Lynch, and then subsequently light the sign on fire when she makes her entrance.

[Cool King]

Probably could have bought second hand tickets somewhere...... not sure if they have something like "stubhub" there...... would pay more than the tickets were worth, but you could get better seats......

Well I've just checked Stubhub and they're quite expensive.

There are tickets in the same area as me that are going for £300 each.

I paid £56 for my ticket.

[Cool King]

Congrats on going, though.

Please bring a "Straight Fire" sign for Becky Lynch, and then subsequently light the sign on fire when she makes her entrance.

I'll do my best.

[The CyNick]

So some extra seats were added to both Raw and SmackDown for when they come to Glasgow and I've managed to get myself tickets, so I can now say that I'm going to SmackDown!

The seats are probably not great as I'm sitting to the left of the stage and I've never been to the arena in my life so I don't know what the view will be like. I just hope nothing is in my way or that I'm hidden behind the set. My seat is in the blue circle in section 056. I'll be doing some research on my seat to see if I can find out what the view will be like and so on.

https://s22.postimg.org/fgnw2qetd/seat.png

Hopefully things will be alright, as they were the best seats available in what was a mad rush to acquire tickets as they were disappearing in the blink of an eye, but even if things aren't perfect, I'll still be able to say that I've actually been to SmackDown and not just house shows.

Glad to hear you got tickets, congrats. I'm sure you will have a blast, nothing like seeing the superstars of WWE up close and personal. Looking forward to your review of the show!

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.redd.it/bpyf2cn0xarx.gif

[slik]

She's in a walking boot, so maybe they are her crutches.....


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[slik]

technically, he has a crutch in his right hand

[Cool King]

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[Disturbed316]

NXT is touring New Zealand and Australia for the first time but I'm going to miss it as I'll be in the U.K. :(

[Rammsteinmad]

Those Where Are They Now videos are amazing.

[Fignuts]

In light of Itami's recent injury, I think WWE needs to evaluate whether it's worth it to include their bigger names on these tiny road shows where they're facing green, inexperienced guys who could injure them.

[Cool King]

The decorator that's working on my mum's place received a phone call today and his ringtone was Shawn Michaels' theme.

I really didn't expect to hear that today.

[Cool King]

Those Where Are They Now videos are amazing.

As good as they are, I think they could possibly be even better if they were full 30 minute shows on the network.

Maybe have the first 15 minutes talk about their in-ring career up until they left/got released, then the other 15 minutes talking about what they're up to now.

[SNLfunnyguy]

As good as they are, I think they could possibly be even better if they were full 30 minute shows on the network.

Maybe have the first 15 minutes talk about their in-ring career up until they left/got released, then the other 15 minutes talking about what they're up to now.

Thiis. Or like Table for 3 which runs in at something like 22mins.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Oh. I see Ms. Wilson still has it.

[Lock Jaw]

Has what?

[XL]

IT!

[Lock Jaw]

At this point in time I think Jericho is just out there having fun getting over catchphrases like "stupid idiot", "IT!", and "You just made the list!"

Can pretty much get anything over as a catchphrase at this point, probably.

[XL]

Yeah, does feel that way.

[Cool King]

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[Jordan]

What a fag

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">SUPER TIJERAS DE <a href="https://twitter.com/DoradoSro">@DoradoSro</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CMLL?src=hash">#CMLL</a> <a href="https://t.co/IimQBg4Yx7">pic.twitter.com/IimQBg4Yx7</a></p>&mdash; Jocay (@Jocay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jocay19/status/787120439982170112">October 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Jordan]

He is the fucking man

[DaveWadding]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Told my buddy LU is coming to San Diego. Prob might go maybe.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

From Del Rio on how messed up Paige's neck is and claiming WWE lying about Paige not being hurt or needing surgery.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hmm ��interesting and they say she's not hurt... <a href="https://t.co/6rr7e5Ob6r">pic.twitter.com/6rr7e5Ob6r</a></p>&mdash; Alberto El Patron (@VivaDelRio) <a href="https://twitter.com/VivaDelRio/status/787394308131487744">October 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I don't think they ever said she wasn't hurt. They said she did an illegal drug.

[Emperor Smeat]

Different thing being disputed between the two sides. The neck stuff involves Paige's doctor and WWE's medical staff disagreeing on how messed up her neck is.

Paige's doctor recommends surgery as soon as possible while WWE's doctors says her neck isn't as messed up and WWE isn't willing to cover the medical costs even though it goes against their usual policy.

[Droford]

I turned my tv on in my hotel and it was on Indian talk show with subtitles and this famous Indian guy (wish I knew his name) says he likes to tell people "quiet!" and all I can think of is did Jericho steal his bit

This is the guy

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[Cool King]

His name is Amitabh Bachchan.

[Cool King]

Or to give him his full name, Amitabh Harivansh Rai Shrivastava Bachchan.

[Cool King]

From Del Rio on how messed up Paige's neck is and claiming WWE lying about Paige not being hurt or needing surgery.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hmm ��interesting and they say she's not hurt... <a href="https://t.co/6rr7e5Ob6r">pic.twitter.com/6rr7e5Ob6r</a></p>&mdash; Alberto El Patron (@VivaDelRio) <a href="https://twitter.com/VivaDelRio/status/787394308131487744">October 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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That could be from anybody.

I've always refused to believe that images/jokes/etc showing text messages are legit.

For all we know, that could be from Paige's dad's next door neighbour.

[Cool King]

Also, what doctor would send you a text with personal/private health details like that?