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Lock Jaw

08-13-2022, 07:59 PM

Punk on NXT, coming full circle and being the "veteran" holding down up and coming talent would be a cool use for him.

Mr. Nerfect

08-13-2022, 08:09 PM

I’d go as far as saying I “want” it to happen now. Punk would never agree, lol. But him taking over the Diamond Mine and going through Bron Breakker, Roderick Strong, Damon Kemp and Solo Sikoa could be fun stuff that could give the show a proper anchor.

You can could do so much with it. Kurt Angle could become a coach for Damon Kemp, with Punk going after the obvious personal issues of Angle. Solo Sikoa could be offered a spot in Punk’s Diamond Mine, but turn it down and be the DDP of NXT. Punk could add Tessa Blanchard to the group, which would be interesting given her failed professional relationship with AJ Lee (you wouldn’t bring it up, but it would be there). He can do the announcer feud with Wade Barrett, who could cut his own “pipe-bomb” about coming out of retirement.

slik

08-13-2022, 08:14 PM

Lock Jaw

08-13-2022, 08:16 PM

Have Punk go back to his "savior" gimmick a little bit, and say that he is "saving" the young talent from the wrestling business because "take it from me, the wrestling business will destroy your soul and your spirit just like it destroyed mine"

So he is there to "save" the young talent by taking over NXT and trying to "end their careers" right there before they make it to the horrors of the big stage.

xrodmuc316

08-13-2022, 08:21 PM

Many people think, not thought, the pipe bomb was and is a shoot. Pretty sure we could easily dig up the weekly thread and reread those posts if we need some clarity

Exactly right, and Punk has kept that kayfabe alive for 11 years because it serves him. Hates the FED, but still living off the pipebomb they allowed/approved for him under the fake guise he did it to make pro wrestling better. I guess he has to use whatever fake credibility he has left since he has exactly zero real credibility :rofl:

Lock Jaw

08-13-2022, 08:34 PM

Breaking News: Wrestler uses his gimmick to market himself

#1-norm-fan

08-13-2022, 08:55 PM

I was intrigued by the idea of Ed Koskey coming up with the ideas, taking them to Punk, even scripting them out. Turns out he was just producing it like every segment. I don’t know of Punk to misrepresent that, but it would come as a surprise to quite a lot of people, even in the wrestling sphere. But I wouldn’t call it “fraud.” It was just a promo that stood out.

I wasn’t intrigued by the idea because of the source spouting the idea but congrats on reading through the bullshit.

xrodmuc316

08-13-2022, 09:14 PM

Breaking News: Wrestler uses his gimmick to market himself

What exactly is his gimmick other than FEDBAD PIPEBOMB guy?

Destor

08-13-2022, 09:21 PM

I mean... A bit yeah

xrodmuc316

08-13-2022, 09:30 PM

FEDBAD selling CM Punk merch still...

https://i.imgflip.com/6pvpr0.jpg

Damian Rey 2.0

08-13-2022, 09:32 PM

Who actually thought it was an actual shoot other than mark fuckwads like you?

The same people who think getting his ass handed to him like the MMA amateur he was somehow hurt his credibility as a wrestler despite the guy selling out an arena in the rumor he would show up, and being the headliner for a ppv that saw a near 40k increase in buys from the previous year on top of setting a record at the turnstiles for the company.

Lock Jaw

08-13-2022, 09:32 PM

What exactly is his gimmick other than FEDBAD PIPEBOMB guy?

What exactly is any wrestler's gimmick other than their gimmick?

xrodmuc316

08-13-2022, 09:47 PM

The same people who think getting his ass handed to him like the MMA amateur he was somehow hurt his credibility as a wrestler despite the guy selling out an arena in the rumor he would show up, and being the headliner for a ppv that saw a near 40k increase in buys from the previous year on top of setting a record at the turnstiles for the company.

That was already a year ago. How many times has he drawn a million since? In the last 5 months Dynamite got a million once, and that was Blood and Guts, an episode Phil wasn't even on!

Mr. Nerfect

08-13-2022, 11:07 PM

Punk gets a spike, then people realize there isn’t much to see.

Destor

08-13-2022, 11:58 PM

The same people who think getting his ass handed to him like the MMA amateur he was somehow hurt his credibility as a wrestler despite the guy selling out an arena in the rumor he would show up, and being the headliner for a ppv that saw a near 40k increase in buys from the previous year on top of setting a record at the turnstiles for the company.if credibility doesnt matter then there is nothing to book. Just put on random matches. Finishes mean nothing. Do away with titles too. If credibility is irrelevant then the only thing that matters is highspots. Do cool shit. Rinse repeat.

Destor

08-13-2022, 11:59 PM

Booking is nothing but establishing credibility over time

Lock Jaw

08-14-2022, 12:06 AM

If credibility is irrelevant then the only thing that matters is highspots. Do cool shit. Rinse repeat.

So, modern rassling?

Destor

08-14-2022, 12:18 AM

And we see how well thats working

Mr. Nerfect

08-14-2022, 12:28 AM

Booking is nothing but establishing credibility over time

This is gorgeous.

Damian Rey 2.0

08-14-2022, 01:02 AM

if credibility doesnt matter then there is nothing to book. Just put on random matches. Finishes mean nothing. Do away with titles too. If credibility is irrelevant then the only thing that matters is highspots. Do cool shit. Rinse repeat.

Being a good MMA fighter and being a good wrestler are not the same thing. By that logic Jake Hager should be a bigger deal. But the things that make him good in MMA aren’t the things that make him good in wrestling. It’s the opposite for Punk. Awful fighter. Very good professional wrestler. IMO.

Destor

08-14-2022, 01:29 AM

The same thing that makes swagger bad in MMA makes him bad in wrestling. He's got the personality to cure insomnia. The fight game and MMA are the same game. Because they're both the fight game. And on the other side the same thing that makes Punk a shit tier fighter makes him a shit tier worker: he's a giant pussy.

Everyone who doesnt mind punk being a giant pussy is already watching. And its not cutting it.

Destor

08-14-2022, 01:31 AM

Now if we could mesh them into one guy we'd have a top tier fighter and a top tier worker...

xrodmuc316

08-14-2022, 02:13 AM

Being a good MMA fighter and being a good wrestler are not the same thing. By that logic Jake Hager should be a bigger deal. But the things that make him good in MMA aren’t the things that make him good in wrestling. It’s the opposite for Punk. Awful fighter. Very good professional wrestler. IMO.

No, so incredibly untrue. Had they pushed Jake Hager as an MMA Killer from the start, it would have at least been believable. He would still be boring as all hell, but believable.

With Punk though, no amount of skill in pretend fighting should be enough for anybody with any sense at all to forget just how absolutely bad at fighting he really is. Had Punk never done MMA, he could have come back to wrestling and still had the benefit of fans not knowing how inept he actually is. Like Bischoff said, he worked himself into thinking because he was booked to win fake fights that he could actually fight. He cannot, and now we all know it.

Mr. Nerfect

08-14-2022, 05:16 AM

This just reminds me of how special Brock is.

Jordan

08-14-2022, 07:57 AM

Jake Hager is not a good MMA fighter really.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-14-2022, 08:18 AM

Many people think, not thought, the pipe bomb was and is a shoot. Pretty sure we could easily dig up the weekly thread and reread those posts if we need some clarity

At best I thought they just let him run wild with a promo which it sounds like they still did.

Maybe at the time, because nobody knew where they were going with it, I thought there was an element of shoot to it, but I have my doubts. IIRC I was just like "Oh shit they actually finally let Punk be Punk, this could be good."

Retrospectively, it seemed like a work the whole way through, especially once he won the fucking title. And I don't see what's wrong with that. It was really well done.

Anyways, in recent times, especially, I haven't talked to anyone who actually thinks it was a shoot.

Destor

08-14-2022, 08:59 AM

This just reminds me of how special Brock is.brockis the perfect example to show why not being a giant pussy matters. Hell in 04 he skyrocketed to the top of the industry because he was undisputably credible. Fast forward to today and its still true. He draws because anyone flipping channels who happens to see him buys him in 10 seconds or less.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 11:13 AM

Brock has become less and less of a draw over time. By any metric you wanna use to measure it.

It’s almost as if what he did in MMA has become less of a factor and his wrestling booking has effected his drawing power in... ya know... wrestling.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 11:31 AM

I’ve used this analogy before: Imagine watching a boxing movie where Mike Tyson, in his prime, plays a fictional version of himself. If he’s loses 50% of the time in the movie, as they build to his big fight while promoting him as an unstoppable beast, are you gonna think “Well, he IS Mike Tyson.” or are you gonna think “This is shit storytelling. I’m out.”?

xrodmuc316

08-14-2022, 12:20 PM

Got buzzed of a dumdum making an analogy.

Imagine the NBA wanted to make a movie about the greatest 3 point shooter of all time Steph Curry. Now imagine they cast Shaquille O'Neal to play Steph Curry. That film would be a comedy of epic proportions, because everybody knows Shaq is a horrible 3 point shooter.

FYI, Shaq made one 3 point shot in his entire career, which is one more than the number of wins that exposed fraud Phil had in his MMA career.

Phil being presented as the best guy is an embarrassment to AEW.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 12:29 PM

LOL @ “Got buzzed” as the new strategy. Holy shit.

xrodmuc316

08-14-2022, 01:45 PM

Of course idiot ignored the entire analogy and focused on something else. Moron, I have ALREADY posted a screenshot in the casual politics thread of a different somebody summoning me to look at and respond to your dumbshit posts. I don't give a fuck if you believe I have you ignored or not. The fact is other people apparently like me calling out the stupid takes or they would not direct me to it. It must be the same way you get sick pleasure beating it to your CM Punk posters.

You think you are winning a debate by actually getting me to respond, but it is not your accomplishment, I am responding by request. Some KOTF lol

xrodmuc316

08-14-2022, 01:51 PM

Just in case anybody here is like me and doesn't visit the casual forum much, here is proof of Fan getting owned both then and again now

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?p=5570278#post5570278

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 02:21 PM

I don't give a fuck if you believe I have you ignored or not.

I don’t know, man. Lying about ignoring someone is a pretty telling sign that you “give a fuck” that they believe you. Need another refresher?

This dude knows I don't read his posts…

Yes, I do click "View Post" to see what you have wrote most of the time.

These posts were less than 3 hours apart. Lol

————————-

that was me saying I was not going to continue engaging you.

how is this going for you

I failed miserably, clearly

I feel like even Noid not being able to bring himself to go along with this latest retarded “CM FRAUD” narrative pushed you over the edge. You HAD to find a way to defend yourself and recover while still pretending to ignore me. You’re in SHAMBLES from all the DUNKING on you in the last page+. Cumdorx BOILING! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Destor

08-14-2022, 02:51 PM

Brock has become less and less of a draw over time. By any metric you wanna use to measure it.

It’s almost as if what he did in MMA has become less of a factor and his wrestling booking has effected his drawing power in... ya know... wrestling.there's a myriad of reasons for the diminished returns, least of all lack of fresh matches and more over a lack of fresh matches with credible talent. What ever the case may be its tangential. Brock, even while less than he was, remains the top draw based soley on his credibility.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 02:59 PM

Solely? I think the lack of other draws in wrestling has something to do with it. Brock could have gotten his ass kicked in MMA and he’d still be the top draw because no one else is a draw.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 03:07 PM

Putting a guy like Seth Rollins over him clean multiple times MAY have hampered his aura a bit too. Lol

If the geek in the midcard is beating you in a few minutes, you can only say “BUT REMEMBER MMA…” so much. The inverse is true too.

Destor

08-14-2022, 03:37 PM

Solely? I think the lack of other draws in wrestling has something to do with it. Brock could have gotten his ass kicked in MMA and he’d still be the top draw because no one else is a draw.soley yes. But dont misunderstand. He didnt gain his cred entirely in ufc.he gained it in the ncaa. He gained it by looking like an inhuman murder monster. And yes in the ufc. If he had gone over and got mauled...well he wouldnt have had any value.

And to the point "hes draws because no one does" i reject the premise. No one can draw and the company can fold. There isnt a baseline.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 03:56 PM

If he had gone over and got mauled...well he wouldnt have had any value.

I guarantee they still would have brought him back, called him an unstoppable beast and he’d still be their biggest draw. And it wouldn’t be his MMA career that ultimately diminishes his aura in wrestling. It would be jobbing to glorified midcarders.

Gerard

08-14-2022, 04:38 PM

Destor

08-14-2022, 05:50 PM

I guarantee they still would have brought him back, called him an unstoppable beast and he’d still be their biggest draw. And it wouldn’t be his MMA career that ultimately diminishes his aura in wrestling. It would be jobbing to glorified midcarders.i highly doubt that. It flies in the face of everything they believe. And it definitely wouldnt have worked. Just like it isnt working for AEW with Punk. He got a 1 night bump and that was that. You're marketing believability. Being believable comes with the territory.

#1-norm-fan

08-14-2022, 06:18 PM

Right. Punk gave them a bump (it was more than just one night). He was over regardless of his MMA career. Hence the bump. Which kinda proves my point. KEEPING the audience from that bump is mostly up to the booking.

The story being told within the realm of wrestling is ultimately what matters.

Damian Rey 2.0

08-14-2022, 06:53 PM

The first ppv Punk headlined did 35k more buys than the year before. His first ppv match where he was the main draw over doubled the buy rate the year before. It certainly wasn’t a one night bump.

xrodmuc316

08-14-2022, 07:29 PM

The first ppv Punk headlined did 35k more buys than the year before. His first ppv match where he was the main draw over doubled the buy rate the year before. It certainly wasn’t a one night bump.

And then they immediately lost 60,000 of those buys on the next PPV :rofl:

Mr. Nerfect

08-15-2022, 02:52 AM

Yeah, the Summer of Punk SummerSlam did worse numbers than the Nexus SummerSlam the year before. By a wider margin than Punk generated interest for MITB. He’s just not a draw.

XL

08-15-2022, 12:55 PM

Or maybe that’s a reflection on WWE’s inability to pull the trigger on the obvious plot direction at the “Biggest Party of the Summer”?

Mr. Nerfect

08-15-2022, 02:00 PM

Or maybe that’s a reflection on WWE’s inability to pull the trigger on the obvious plot direction at the “Biggest Party of the Summer”?

Sure, keep blaming everyone else. WWE’s booking of it wasn’t great, but there’s still no evidence that Punk has been able to sustain anything ever.

#1-norm-fan

08-15-2022, 02:23 PM

Sure, keep blaming everyone else. WWE’s booking of it wasn’t great…

:lol:

wwe2222

08-15-2022, 03:18 PM

Punk is interesting enough where you tune in to see him the first time. After that...eh....not something I really need to tune in for over and over.

XL

08-15-2022, 03:22 PM

I mean, I wasn’t really being serious…

XL

08-15-2022, 03:39 PM

You know what also did a comparatively poor buy rate?

The best Royal Rumble ever (not to be confused with the Greatest Royal Rumble).

XL

08-15-2022, 03:40 PM

But also, the YoY buyrates are not good reading for Punk on top.

slik

08-15-2022, 08:36 PM

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#1-norm-fan

08-15-2022, 08:45 PM

Kinda tempting to watch the first Vince-less WrestleMania live but I’m still sceptical…

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-15-2022, 10:42 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Randy Savage giving Ricky Morton a piledriver through a table circa 1984 is something that blows my mind! <a href="https://t.co/OL4FdwGwcE">pic.twitter.com/OL4FdwGwcE</a></p>— Aaron Rift of NoDQ.com (@aaronrift) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronrift/status/1559261257869541377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect

08-16-2022, 05:54 AM

I mean, I wasn’t really being serious…

I know you were dicking around, but it’s an interesting discussion point. Even the MITB increase is kind of overblown and was something I took on face value for years.

Mr. Nerfect

08-16-2022, 05:57 AM

I mean, 2013 did better than 2011. That was with Mark Henry challenging John Cena for the WWE Title.

Bad News Gertner

08-16-2022, 09:57 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Attitude Era made this boy a man right here! �� <a href="https://t.co/DsVUyiwrey">pic.twitter.com/DsVUyiwrey</a></p>— 90s WWE (@90sWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/90sWWE/status/1559351285299675136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave

08-16-2022, 10:43 AM

LMAOOOOOO, he definitely didn't know he liked boobs until that moment.

Had he honked them, I'd say we found Jazzy Foot live!

XL

08-16-2022, 03:11 PM

I mean, 2013 did better than 2011. That was with Mark Henry challenging John Cena for the WWE Title.

Yeah, I went looking for a WELL ACTUALLY to support Punk but just kept finding more evidence to suggest he wasn’t a draw.

Now, does that affect my enjoyment of the story? Not at all. That’s down to the way it was handled creatively.

#1-norm-fan

08-16-2022, 03:56 PM

It’s also irrelevant to the subject which was whether his MMA career ruined his drawing ability in wrestling. The bump he provided initially when he returned is evidence that he was just fine. He clearly helped AEW’s business despite MMA. Whatever happened over time after that is a different story.

Mr. Nerfect

08-16-2022, 04:07 PM

Yeah, I went looking for a WELL ACTUALLY to support Punk but just kept finding more evidence to suggest he wasn’t a draw.

Now, does that affect my enjoyment of the story? Not at all. That’s down to the way it was handled creatively.

Oh yeah, absolutely. I think Punk is good. He can talk and his matches can be really good. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying his work.

I’ll say this though: I don’t go back and revisit Punk. I didn’t miss him when he was gone. I’ll still sometimes go back and watch Brock vs. Bryan. I think I’m more likely to check out an old John Cena match than a CM Punk one. My heart still breaks for not having more Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels. There’s this care-factor for Punk that I’ve found just isn’t there.

Gerard

08-16-2022, 05:40 PM

Xero

08-16-2022, 06:46 PM

For a minute I thought that was legitimately a 25 minute entrance segment and not a compilation.

ClockShot

08-16-2022, 07:00 PM

Hey Xero. Been a while.

Social call or here on business?

Gerard

08-16-2022, 08:34 PM

For a minute I thought that was legitimately a 25 minute entrance segment and not a compilation.

With the nwo it wouldnt have been surprising really. :lol:

drave

08-17-2022, 08:47 AM

Celtic Warrior Workout Fellas!

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drave

08-17-2022, 09:16 AM

Come across something kinda interesting for you historical nerds. "American Dream Tapes"

https://www.discogs.com/label/924749-American-Dream-Tapes

Supposed to be a buncha promos from wrasslers of the w-r-a-s-s-l-i-n era. Wasn't sure if anyone knew anything more about them, had heard of them, etc.

Bad News Gertner

08-17-2022, 09:56 AM

I wish they had track lists

Gerard

08-17-2022, 12:16 PM

Mr. Nerfect

08-17-2022, 04:38 PM

It’s incredible how WCW fucked up Goldberg. It shouldn’t be possible.

Gerard

08-17-2022, 09:18 PM

It’s incredible how WCW fucked up Goldberg. It shouldn’t be possible.

Well their main storyline was the NWO and once that was done their lack of creativity really showed through, arguably their lack of creativity was on show during the nwo run just adding more and more members to it. Then they recycled that to black and red and black and silver, one trick ponies.

Bad News Gertner

08-17-2022, 11:17 PM

Lmao fucking yes

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Tom Guycott

08-17-2022, 11:24 PM

"Bischoff take it up the ass, doo da doo da". :rofl:

"Haven't you heard?? Heh heh heh heh...."

Tom Guycott

08-17-2022, 11:29 PM

Tom Guycott

08-18-2022, 12:40 AM

Lock Jaw

08-18-2022, 12:54 AM

To this day my mind still automatically inserts "N W O" into Voddo Child

Tom Guycott

08-18-2022, 01:04 AM

"Fo-fo-fo-for LIFE!"

"The biggest icon in professional wrestling!"

Mr. Nerfect

08-18-2022, 09:09 AM

Never fails to amaze me just how shit the unneccesary switch to Megadeth was in WCW. If something like that was his theme to begin with, sure. He had something that stood out and felt epic, and then switched him up to yet another "chugga chugga chugga" guitar song, even if it was by an actual band instead of from a Turner Media music repository (that gave us such highs as "Satan's Sister" for the Hollywood Blondes to the depths of Jericho's fake "Evenflow"). The initial WWE change just felt like copied math homework, but that was comparably better than WCW writing social studies answers in the math textbook in the first place.

US Champ Goldberg was in peak Goldberg IMO.

It was still on the organic side, they weren't quite fucking with the streak numbers yet (multiple wins on every TV show from Nitro to WorldWide against guys like Blitzkreig or "Lightning Foot" Jerry Flynn to pad the resume isn't the same as just making up impossible numbers), he wasn't yet in the main event picture, so there wasn't much backstage politicking in the way of his clear upward momentum.

He was just allowed to be a "force of nature" in both gimmick and as a phenomenon of time and place. People were still allowed to buy into taking the ride.

Also, unrelated to any of the above, I would like to acknowledge the Xero sighting, even though I'm a couple days late.

:y:

slik

08-18-2022, 05:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On this date in 1991, Special Report covered the impending arrival of Ric Flair to the WWF. <a href="https://t.co/Vgn44KezC0">pic.twitter.com/Vgn44KezC0</a></p>— Monsoon Classic (@MonsoonClassic) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonsoonClassic/status/1560200679851020289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gerard

08-18-2022, 06:31 PM

Well, being fair, with the money they paid to use Hendrix, they milked the shit out of it every time.

Bischoff talks about that on a podcast, they were only allowed to use so many seconds (3 mins) of Voodoo child each show, which is why Hogan would come out to either Voodoo Child or Rockhouse. $100k back in the day to use it for a year.

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The funny thing about "Rockhouse" was it was a song made up of random sound samples in other hendrix songs, someone clashed them together, extended it and made a theme out of it.

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Gerard

08-18-2022, 06:53 PM

Bad News Gertner

08-19-2022, 11:30 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Friday, here is Mean Gene dancing with Sapphire <a href="https://t.co/awXdt81dqi">pic.twitter.com/awXdt81dqi</a></p>— OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1560602730636394496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw

08-19-2022, 11:39 AM

Gene's got the moves. That really move 'em

Sepholio

08-19-2022, 02:07 PM

Looks like NXT UK is being gutted.

xrodmuc316

08-19-2022, 08:18 PM

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 12:31 AM

Would be funny if the reason Punk vs. Mox is on free TV next week is because Punk wants out ASAP.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 12:31 AM

WWE should re-hire John Morrison for Raw.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 12:48 AM

I did some WWE fantasy booking over the next few months. I never really shuffle the rosters around much. Instead of doing a proper draft this year, I kind of hope they just have a few guys/girls change show upon request.

To Raw:

1. Pete Dunne - Gets attacked at Clash at the Castle by Dexter Lumis. Dunne wants revenge but can’t get across the shows, but he ends up as 24/7 Champion giving him the right to be there. Theory helps Lumis beat Dunne in a Hardcore Match at Extreme Rules to win the belt and Dunne requests his move to go back after them.

2. Sami Zayn - He decides he wants to get away from The Bloodline. They see this betrayal and he gets attacked and has a babyface moment against Roman Reigns.

3. Happy Corbin - He’s had enough of being disrespected by Pat McAfee & Michael Cole on commentary. He puts over McAfee in a Street Fight main event before leaving.

4. Lacey Evans - I don’t know what they have her do. I’ve got her partnered with Bobby Lashley in my head, but I don’t want to drag Lashley down.

To SmackDown:

1. American Alpha - Feel they are “misused” on Raw. They are accused of trying to get away from the teams they are feuding with at the time (Dolph Ziggler & Bobby Roode and Shelton Benjamin & Cedric Alexander), only to find that they have also requested their transfer.

2. Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode - See above. Also some fresh meat for Gunther to squash.

3. Shelton Benjamin & Cedric Alexander - See above. Further padding for the SmackDown tag side.

4. Angelo Dawkins - Requests his transfer to try and make it as a singles guy to the “shock” of Montez Ford.

5. Veer Meehan - Joins back with Jinder Mahal and Shanky for a little bit, or gets repackaged as a babyface.

You could also call up a bunch of NXT talents to balance out the shows.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 04:42 AM

Noid books Clash at the Castle:

* Kofi Kingston & Shinsuke Nakamura defeat The Viking Raiders. “Kinshasa in Paradise” forms because Kofi needs a partner to go against The Raiders. Malamutes steps forward because he knows what it is like to go to war when his partner is injured. They get a special entrance together here. The faces win because The Raiders are kind of in that meh spot.

* Pete Dunne wins a Battle Royal when he finds a way to muscle out Omos, ala Benoit and Big Show in the 2004 Rumble. Lots of stories can be furthered in this. An Uso can dump out Zayn, Ford can dump out Dawkins, etc. Dunne cuts a promo talking about how he cut his teeth in the UK as Pete Dunne so he’s dedicating this match to his Bruiserweight roots on the pre-show or something.

* Liv Morgan defeats Shayna Baszler with a roll-up after Shayna goes into a turnbuckle Natalya, who is in her corner, exposes. I guess Nattie has the team with Sonya now. I’d just have Nattie play the field a bit and offer her assistance to Shayna to get to this finish. She’s not necessary to the finish, but whatever. It’s another story. Liv is going down the route of Bo Dallas, so keep her winning and building that heat.

* Bobby Lashley & AJ Styles defeat The Miz & Ciampa. Styles points out he won the WWE Title in the UK so it’s special to him. He gets the pin on Miz here. He can look at Lashley’s belt afterwards.

* Tyler Bate defeats Kevin Owens to retain the NXT UK Championship. Owens is announced as Bate’s opponent because he wants to rip the UK Title from that shitty little developmental. As a French Canadian he has no respect for the Commonwealth. He’s an absolute asshole, carries himself like a prick, overlooks Bate and loses here. The NXT UK Title becomes the WWE UK Title and is moved to Raw, possibly as a crossover belt with NXT.

* Gunther defeats Sheamus to retain the IC Title. Just let these men go.

* Edge & Rey Mysterio defeat The Judgment Day. Dominik Mysterio makes his decision and clocks Finn Balor with a steel chair to help his dad get the win. I’m not ready for the Rey vs. Dominik feud yet.

* Matt Riddle defeats Seth Rollins to get a measure of revenge for their issues. This match goes quite a while and is another “workrate” contribution from the Raw side.

* D-Femination XX defeat Bianca Belair, Asuka & Alexa Bliss. This gets time to give you the combos you want — specifically Asuka and Iyo. I’d give the pin to Sky, who pins Bianca.

* Drew McIntyre defeats Roman Reigns to become the new WWE Undisputed Unified Universal Heavyweight Champion of the World. Drew is attacked earlier in the show, presumably by Karrion Kross. He uses that to sell for Reigns (probably the leg, with the Claymore being targeted). Drew hits it, takes ages going into the pin, only gets two when Kross pulls out the ref and socks them. Drew gets into it with Kross and gets beaten down. Kross keeps hitting refs as they pour out. A female ref or two is taken out by Scarlet. Riddle runs down and starts brawling with Kross (it’s in his interest that Drew wins — we’re reminded of this in a post-win interview). While Kross is being dealt with, Shane McMahon runs down in a ref shirt. He’s still licensed from 1992. Roman only gets two off Kross’ finisher. He’s mad, gets in Shane’s face. Shoves Shane, gets shoved back, roll-up, fast three count! Drew wins both belts under controversial circumstances.

Lock Jaw

08-20-2022, 10:56 AM

Forgot all about Noam Dar and how he got a push once cause Vince thought it was funny how he said "Alicia Fuuuuuuuuuuuux"

(Read his name in the NXT thread but didn't want to post in it)

screech

08-20-2022, 12:34 PM

I learned via the SquaredCircle reddit that you're racist if you don't like Hit Row.

screech

08-20-2022, 12:34 PM

I didn't post anything but someone else said they're trash and got a lot of "wow racism" replies

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 02:41 PM

It depends why you don’t like them. I’m not sold on the whole presentation yet. It has potential. AJ Francis has something. Ashante Adonis is athletic. They feel like too much of a gimmick to me right now though. I prefer my teams to have that American Alpha ring work energy.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 02:45 PM

Swerve will be kicking himself that he signed with AEW to be a nothing champ with that husk Keith Lee. AEW is going to have a bit of trouble signing free agents who will be waiting for that WWE call.

Hell, a lot of AEW champions probably want to drop their belts and jump back over. Actually, I’d bet Triple H would be able to sign all the ROH champs if negotiations were open.

XL

08-20-2022, 03:36 PM

Swerve, Keith Lee, Undisputed Elite all probably kicking themselves with HHH now in charge.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 03:39 PM

The Gunn Club would love to be WWE right now too.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 07:49 PM

I’m actually pretty excited for CATC. Predictions for the rest of the card:

* The Judgment Day vs. Edge & Rey Mysterio. This seems like the direction they’re heading. Edge & Rey have been presented as friends again, 20 years on from when they won the Tag Team Championship together. Finn Balor will probably make the UK card. Edge & Rey are both legends that seem likely to get a spot. Should be a really good tag team match that will involve Dominick’s decision, although I would be totally fine if it’s just a tag match with a finish and Dominik does what he does on Raw.

* Bobby Lashley vs. AJ Styles vs. The Miz vs. Omos for the US Title. Kind of thrown together, but the card already has the “workrate.” Lashley, Styles and Miz are all big stars for them, and they’ve all been intertwined. Ciampa can be at ringside for Miz running interference. He’s also fairly new to the main roster, so I don’t think they give him an actual position in the match. Omos is someone they want to be a special attraction, plus he has history with Lashley and Styles. I can see Omos winning a Battle Royal to join Lashley, Styles and Miz for the match.

* Happy Corbin vs. Pat McAfee in a Falls Count Anywhere Match. I’m iffy on whether McAfee works this show, but he’ll be there and it’s a stadium show. They’re clearly building towards another showdown between the two. It’d be very easy to get there — Corbin beats Ricochet or something (haven’t seen this week) then he pulls out a football to taunt McAfee. He teases punting it, but then hits McAfee with it and reveals that it was a loaded gimmick. McAfee is a good performer with a good connection to WWE fans.

* Kevin Owens gives an open challenge. I always forget he’s on the roster and someone that they really like. He’s a featured enough player getting a renewed enough push for this sort of thing. I can see him cussing out the UK like he did Texas. Tyler Bate answers and gets the upset victory in Wales.

That pushes the card to 9 matches, which is a lot for what they’re currently doing. But I think that is a pretty appropriate card and gives off a varied but very WWE flavor. Not everything has to hit 5 stars. That being said, a few of them are probably going to be belters.

Mr. Nerfect

08-20-2022, 08:42 PM

Trish Stratus is going to be on Raw in Toronto.

xrodmuc316

08-21-2022, 08:07 PM

Somebody ask Fan why CM Fraud doesn't have an A&E Biography. Surely it is not because he is a prick and failure at everything else or anything, right? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Lock Jaw

08-21-2022, 10:56 PM

Fan is in SHAMBLES

#1-norm-fan

08-21-2022, 11:16 PM

lol Why would someone else need to ask me? Did you forget who has who on pretend ignore?

Ridiculous mistakes like that are a symptom of the HEATED DUNKED ON ROFLROFLROFL SHAMBLES.

Lock Jaw

08-21-2022, 11:41 PM

Lord, I was born a shamblin' man

#1-norm-fan

08-21-2022, 11:46 PM

That post was ghostwritten by The Allman Brothers.

Lock Fraud

Tom Guycott

08-22-2022, 03:38 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy Friday, here is Mean Gene dancing with Sapphire <a href="https://t.co/awXdt81dqi">pic.twitter.com/awXdt81dqi</a></p>— OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1560602730636394496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A couple of things pop into my head anytime I see Sapphire:

1) Mom was a huge Dusty fan, and a full figured woman (she wasn't a fireplug, but she wasn't a skinny girl, either... and she was always the biggest weight-wise of all her brothers and sisters up until near the end and particularly... eh... top-heavy; which I guess was genetic compensation for being the shortest of all her siblings), so seeing Sapphire dance around let her live vicariously.

2) I think of the one interview Cody and Dustin did on Jericho, where they were asked if they thought that the polka dot clothes and being paired with Sapphire "was a rib" (separate questions). The brothers disagreed with the ring gear, but thought Vince was trying to shit on their dad with that. Instead of giving him the commercially accepted standard of beauty in a valet being a tall blonde who would've been on the "eh" side of skinny, they thought they were "saddling" him with a plus-size black chick who was square in the average area of looks. But in particular, Cody's response: "I think [Sapphire] was [a rib] at first, but then she got over."

So, by not doing "Miss America", Vince unwittingly made an avatar for the everywoman because he got the idea to take the man down a few pegs.

Tom Guycott

08-22-2022, 04:11 AM

I learned via the SquaredCircle reddit that you're racist if you don't like Hit Row.

I didn't post anything but someone else said they're trash and got a lot of "wow racism" replies

I'm on the fence. It has all the potential to be wack-ass bullshit and stereotypes with eventually proven subpar talent, but then again, I thought the same thing about Cryme Tyme at first. They had enough personality to carry it off and not seem like something they were "saddled with".

With that said, I do wish they wouldn't keep doing that ALL THE TIME: just grouping minorities together just because. Or, if they add a white boy to Hit Row, it won't be because he fits in the picture - it will be "look at this wannabe" in full "comedic" effect. Doing something like adding Owen to The Nation and making it make actual sense would be too much like work for the writers.

It depends why you don’t like them. I’m not sold on the whole presentation yet. It has potential. AJ Francis has something. Ashante Adonis is athletic. They feel like too much of a gimmick to me right now though. I prefer my teams to have that American Alpha ring work energy.

American Alpha was one of those things, though... a combination of Vince being super horny to get Jason Jordan over very quickly as a breakout singles star and, at the same time, leading a company that constantly tries to foster a sporadic Tag Team division when he's assed to for a few weeks to months, then splitting teams that work and pairing two rando singles together with no plan for them as a team - not even a name.

Swerve will be kicking himself that he signed with AEW to be a nothing champ with that husk Keith Lee. AEW is going to have a bit of trouble signing free agents who will be waiting for that WWE call.

Hell, a lot of AEW champions probably want to drop their belts and jump back over. Actually, I’d bet Triple H would be able to sign all the ROH champs if negotiations were open.

Swerve, Keith Lee, Undisputed Elite all probably kicking themselves with HHH now in charge.

I've said before that I think that whole "HHH lied to me" thing where people were unhappy with him making promises that didn't pan out that was going around awhile ago was because he rightfully assumed he'd be in charge of shit while Vince was playing with this revamped football league, and by the time he looked back at "his baby", all the NXT call-ups would be on the main roster, pushed, over, and selling merch in a "better to ask forgiveness than permission" move to where he might not have personally picked guys like Balor and such to be main-eventing, but the results would have been too popular to change. But the exact opposite happened. Vince folded the XFL - again - and barely had time to have that train leave the station before he started running it backwards to not only undo Hunter's plans, but erode the foundational groundwork for his plans. And then, with the whole NXT edict of "super young talent with zero wrestling experience" to become wrestlers in their wrestling program, fucking with all the call-ups for seemingly no reason, and leaning too heavy on Roman and Brock without trying to push too many other people into that echelon, it seemed like the writing was on the wall for career trajectories.

Nobody expected Vince's penis to change all that. Those guys weren't just going to sit by the phone expecting Hunter to call them a half year or so later, nor did they know they'd be so minimized in AEW. That's less of a shot at Keith Lee or Swerve (my personal hangup about Keith notwithstanding) than it is about AEW doing stupid shit and not thinking past their surprise debut moment.

Bad News Gertner

08-22-2022, 09:47 AM

I wish we got a triple threat match between Dusty Rhodes, Virgil and Akeem. Dusty and the two gimmicks created to mock him

Sepholio

08-22-2022, 10:39 AM

Double J apparently gone from WWE after 3-4 months. Didn't say anything about being released though so maybe he just had a short term deal to work through SS.

#1-norm-fan

08-22-2022, 10:41 AM

Hadn’t he been working behind the scenes there for a couple years now or was he just on a legends deal?

Sepholio

08-22-2022, 11:53 AM

He had left again if I recall and then signed on again this spring as like VP of live events or something like that.

Gerard

08-22-2022, 12:25 PM

xrodmuc316

08-22-2022, 12:54 PM

Somebody ask Fan how much this makes him SIMMER :rofl::rofl::rofl:

https://i.imgflip.com/6qri02.jpg

Lock Jaw

08-22-2022, 02:12 PM

The Simmerian

#1-norm-fan

08-22-2022, 02:20 PM

So many questions to answer once somebody asks them.

Until then I will remain at a LOW HEAT THAT PRODUCES VERY FEW, IF ANY, BUBBLES SIMILAR TO THE TEMPERATURE ONE MIGHT POACH AN EGG AT.

#1-norm-fan

08-22-2022, 04:18 PM

Fightful has confirmed that Road Dogg has returned to WWE after begging Tony Khan for a job.

Mr. Nerfect

08-22-2022, 08:40 PM

Somebody ask Fan how much this makes him SIMMER :rofl::rofl::rofl:

https://i.imgflip.com/6qri02.jpg

Lol. R-Truth is a future Hall of Famer.

#1-norm-fan

08-23-2022, 01:16 AM

Does that count as asking?

Rammsteinmad

08-23-2022, 03:54 AM

Never would have imagined back in 2001 that K-Kwik would still be around 21 years later. And that he'd still look the same age.

Stu Hart

08-24-2022, 12:59 PM

Bad News Gertner

08-24-2022, 05:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Always loved when Ray Traylor (in his many forms) would find unique ways to use the ropes to sell for a smaller wrestler without bumping. <a href="https://t.co/lFcdbyRA23">pic.twitter.com/lFcdbyRA23</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562516456335900673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner

08-24-2022, 05:05 PM

Never would have imagined back in 2001 that K-Kwik would still be around 21 years later. And that he'd still look the same age.

Black don't crack

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-24-2022, 08:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dungeon Training Match<br><br>TJ. Wilson vs. Harry Smith<br><br>October 2000 <a href="https://t.co/bIkk93wy4u">pic.twitter.com/bIkk93wy4u</a></p>— GrappleKlips (@GrappleKlips) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrappleKlips/status/1562521687702196225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

crazy

drave

08-25-2022, 07:40 AM

Black don't crack

except dem feet tho. that's the exception.

Gerard

08-25-2022, 11:37 AM

Savio

08-25-2022, 01:51 PM

So the extent of my current wrestling knowledge comes from "reels" and I just saw one where Seth Rollins eliminated him self from a match by jumping over the top rope which Cole then called a smart move

How come? What was the match? The was a black guy in a tank top. I am guessing he is a dominant force people are afraid of or he really has it out for Rollins?

Is seth champion and he wanted to keep himself fresh "for sunday"? Can someone explain the context to me?

Bad News Gertner

08-25-2022, 02:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chuck Palumbo was 6’7, 280 pounds, and doing stuff like this. <a href="https://t.co/HDtRcxnH67">pic.twitter.com/HDtRcxnH67</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562847294466113536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

screech

08-25-2022, 02:46 PM

Always enjoyed Chuck Palumbo's matches

Bad News Gertner

08-25-2022, 05:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I could watch <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealKingRegal</a> react to a stinky armpit all day. <a href="https://t.co/VbpX1oVLsc">pic.twitter.com/VbpX1oVLsc</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562877358159249409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan

08-25-2022, 06:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� -�� <br><br>According to <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arielhelwani</a> ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWECastle?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWECastle</a> <a href="https://t.co/gmhHSpHflv">pic.twitter.com/gmhHSpHflv</a></p>— WWE on BT Sport (@btsportwwe) <a href="https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1562783144268292102?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Man. This really makes Britain’s contribution to pro wrestling look underwhelming.

Bad News Gertner

08-25-2022, 08:18 PM

Ariel's list is just awful

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-25-2022, 08:24 PM

Not enough Rollerball Rocko. And what of Les Thornton?

#1-norm-fan

08-25-2022, 08:34 PM

Seems like they googled a bunch of names for “honorable mentions” just to make the actual list seem legit.

Vastardikai

08-25-2022, 09:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� -�� <br><br>According to <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arielhelwani</a> ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWECastle?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWECastle</a> <a href="https://t.co/gmhHSpHflv">pic.twitter.com/gmhHSpHflv</a></p>— WWE on BT Sport (@btsportwwe) <a href="https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1562783144268292102?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Man. This really makes Britain’s contribution to pro wrestling look underwhelming.

I can't reasonably see anyone putting any of the "Honorable Mentions" below McGuinness or McIntyre. Also, the lack of Jim Breaks is disgusting. Dude had a barbaric looking finish and is one of the greatest heels I have ever seen footage of. Regal, Dynamite, Street, Finlay, Breaks in any order should be top 5.

Supreme Olajuwon

08-25-2022, 10:02 PM

Imagine leaving PAC and Will Ospreay off the list of greatest British wrestlers of all time even though they do really good flippy shit

Ignorant.

Helmsphere

08-26-2022, 01:40 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chuck Palumbo was 6’7, 280 pounds, and doing stuff like this. <a href="https://t.co/HDtRcxnH67">pic.twitter.com/HDtRcxnH67</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562847294466113536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He probably got overshadowed by Sean O.Haire doing even more impressive stuff.

Destor

08-26-2022, 01:48 AM

XL

08-26-2022, 02:48 AM

So the extent of my current wrestling knowledge comes from "reels" and I just saw one where Seth Rollins eliminated him self from a match by jumping over the top rope which Cole then called a smart move

How come? What was the match? The was a black guy in a tank top. I am guessing he is a dominant force people are afraid of or he really has it out for Rollins?

Is seth champion and he wanted to keep himself fresh "for sunday"? Can someone explain the context to me?

Maybe link the reel?

Rammsteinmad

08-26-2022, 04:15 AM

How is Sheamus not on that list? I know he's not technically "British", but by their logic, is McIntyre?

And ditto for Jonny Saint, and I'd even go as far as to consider Robbie Brookside.

XL

08-26-2022, 08:26 AM

Sheamus is Irish. Ireland isn’t part of Great Britain.

McIntyre is Scottish. Scotland is part of Great Britain.

They’re not using some weird logic.

Rammsteinmad

08-26-2022, 08:33 AM

Oh ar' I see. My bad, I was thinking "UK" (which I'm not even sure which part of Ireland Sheamus is from), as opposed to British.

Meh.

XL

08-26-2022, 09:32 AM

He’s proper Irish. Like Finn Balor.

If we were talking UK wrestlers you could add in Finlay as he’s from Northern Ireland which is part of the UK but not part of Britain.

Bad News Gertner

08-26-2022, 10:16 AM

It's all the same

drave

08-26-2022, 10:44 AM

All the same in that you are American, sir.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-26-2022, 10:45 AM

Gert wishes he was American.

slik

08-26-2022, 11:33 AM

Bad News Gertner

08-26-2022, 11:53 AM

All the same in that you are American, sir.

Huge difference between gentlemen Canadians and dirty Yanks!

#1-norm-fan

08-26-2022, 12:18 PM

As both a gentleman Canadian and a dirty yank, I am uniquely qualified to address this…

USA! USA! USA!

Gerard

08-26-2022, 12:22 PM

Mr. Nerfect

08-26-2022, 02:00 PM

The story seemed so insane to me when I was younger, but the older I get the more I’m like “of course, it’s not even that weird.” The rumor was always that Steph was underage, which is the creepy thing about it. Her 18th birthday would have been around the time of the WWF’s tour of Europe, around the time Savage finished up.

Bad News Gertner

08-26-2022, 02:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tito Santana takes a dive to the MSG floor so gnarly that Gorilla Monsoon almost slips into some insider jargon. Watch some 80’s Santana matches & you’ll see why ring vets like him were beloved & respected by northeast hardcore fans well into the 90’s indie years of their careers <a href="https://t.co/FOVrhqEShx">pic.twitter.com/FOVrhqEShx</a></p>— Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1563226957415821317?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect

08-26-2022, 02:17 PM

I’ve been thinking about the rumor that Santana was on a short list of guys to be the WWF Champion in 1992. When you consider what a worker he was, his potential appeal to certain demographics and all the steroid stuff, he wouldn’t have been the most insane choice in the world.

Bad News Gertner

08-26-2022, 02:40 PM

I find Tito to be very whiny on promos. Tito vs Valentine is probably the best IC Title in ring feud ever, but I find a giant chunk of his work outside of Valentine to be EXTREMELY dull. He's "one extreme or the other". For every amazing Islanders vs Strike Force match there's a dozen very dull Tito house show matches.

XL

08-26-2022, 03:43 PM

The story seemed so insane to me when I was younger, but the older I get the more I’m like “of course, it’s not even that weird.” The rumor was always that Steph was underage, which is the creepy thing about it. Her 18th birthday would have been around the time of the WWF’s tour of Europe, around the time Savage finished up.

Perfect storm. Age of consent is somewhere between 14-16 in most European countries. Maybe it’s Randy that was the genius, not his brother.

Destor

08-26-2022, 03:53 PM

Age of consent federally in US and Canada is 16 and in most states thats the case as well. In the early 90s the average was still 16 but many states were still at 15 since the federal age was lower at the time.

Destor

08-26-2022, 03:53 PM

In other words this likely wouldnt be a crime now and very likely wasnt then either

Lock Jaw

08-27-2022, 10:00 AM

Bring back the Swagger Soaring Eagle

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_l/public/photo/image/2010/11/16390906.jpg

Sans Swagger

Bad News Gertner

08-27-2022, 12:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sgt, Slaughter vs. Iron Sheik at MSG is one of the first things I think of when I hear someone mention “Blood & Guts Wrestling.” True grit. �� <a href="https://t.co/EHEXJNHrOZ">pic.twitter.com/EHEXJNHrOZ</a></p>— Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1563319343911682051?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-27-2022, 12:33 PM

Nobody equates Shiek and Slaughter with being great workers but fuckin hell could they go in their primes.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-27-2022, 12:34 PM

Big mark for the Slaughter cannon.

Mr. Nerfect

08-27-2022, 12:43 PM

Slaughter was a great bumper.

Mr. Nerfect

08-27-2022, 01:17 PM

I’m skeptical of whether Cena would be allowed to wrestle, because he’s probably got filming for Peacemaker coming up not too long after it, but I would love to see John Cena challenge Gunther for the IC Title at Survivor Series in the TD Garden.

Mr. Nerfect

08-27-2022, 01:51 PM

Mr. Nerfect

08-27-2022, 01:58 PM

Looking up the age of Stephanie McMahon, the next generation of McMahons popped up. One of Shane’s sons is 18. Aurora is 18 in a couple of years. It will be interesting to see what happens in relation to them and WWE, if anything at all.

XL

08-27-2022, 02:45 PM

Are you asking which current superstar is going to be the Macho Man to Aurora’s Stephanie?

Mr. Nerfect

08-27-2022, 02:58 PM

Are you asking which current superstar is going to be the Macho Man to Aurora’s Stephanie?

Not in today’s climate.

Bad News Gertner

08-28-2022, 01:34 PM

Slaughter was a great bumper.

Best big man bumper I've ever seen

Bad News Gertner

08-28-2022, 02:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill Kazmaier held Abdullah the Butcher up in the air without having any grip.<br><br>Look at his hands. It’s all palm and fingers. <a href="https://t.co/P5izfJdm6N">pic.twitter.com/P5izfJdm6N</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1563920062628745216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect

08-28-2022, 02:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill Kazmaier held Abdullah the Butcher up in the air without having any grip.<br><br>Look at his hands. It’s all palm and fingers. <a href="https://t.co/P5izfJdm6N">pic.twitter.com/P5izfJdm6N</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1563920062628745216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I imagine that’s all in the back and how Abby balances his weight. It’s a bit like catching a fridge that leverage itself off your knees.

Bad News Gertner

08-28-2022, 03:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Please sit back and enjoy the Dos Caras Advanced Human Knot-Tying masterclass at the WAR J-Cup 2nd stage. Some of these submissions are unreal. �� (1995) <a href="https://t.co/eH15C4nekF">pic.twitter.com/eH15C4nekF</a></p>— Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1563902013766860800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fignuts

08-28-2022, 04:17 PM

His son does an armbar

Fignuts

08-28-2022, 04:17 PM

And drugs

Mr. Nerfect

08-28-2022, 04:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Please sit back and enjoy the Dos Caras Advanced Human Knot-Tying masterclass at the WAR J-Cup 2nd stage. Some of these submissions are unreal. �� (1995) <a href="https://t.co/eH15C4nekF">pic.twitter.com/eH15C4nekF</a></p>— Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1563902013766860800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That was probably more interesting than anything Alberto has done in the past decade.

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:12 PM

Best big man bumper I've ever seen

Ooh let’s compile this list

Slaughter
Boss Man
Yokozuna
Rikishi
Bam Bam

Who else

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:12 PM

Gonna throw a shoutout to Abyss here

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:13 PM

Bob Sapp when he gets punched in the kidneys sells really well

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:14 PM

If Brock and Roman are considered big men then they’re easy inclusions

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-28-2022, 08:15 PM

Foley was 300 pounds and bumped the way he did.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-28-2022, 08:17 PM

Just for the hell of it:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/1450b3fffd16230d80649fdfcca59a7b/tumblr_njf5m0s62T1tihmddo3_400.gifv

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:18 PM

Oh yeah Foley is obvious

Taker too

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-28-2022, 08:20 PM

Taker didn't bump that much. Not that he didn't bump at all, I just wouldn't call him a bumper by trade.

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:22 PM

That’s fair. He’s a great seller more than a great bumper.

Supreme Olajuwon

08-28-2022, 08:22 PM

I need to rethink my list. Mostly thinking of good sellers

Bad News Gertner

08-28-2022, 09:17 PM

Vic Grimes lol

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HonestDisguisedAddax-size_restricted.gif

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-28-2022, 09:35 PM

i think what was great about ECW was that it embraced scumbags. Like...no scumbag felt forced in ECW--they fit it like a glove and it was good tv.

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-28-2022, 09:35 PM

lol good tv for the time, that is.

Tom Guycott

08-28-2022, 10:48 PM

Looking up the age of Stephanie McMahon, the next generation of McMahons popped up. One of Shane’s sons is 18. Aurora is 18 in a couple of years. It will be interesting to see what happens in relation to them and WWE, if anything at all.

Are you asking which current superstar is going to be the Macho Man to Aurora’s Stephanie?

Not in today’s climate.

Well, not with that attitude!

Tom Guycott

08-28-2022, 10:51 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Please sit back and enjoy the Dos Caras Advanced Human Knot-Tying masterclass at the WAR J-Cup 2nd stage. Some of these submissions are unreal. �� (1995) <a href="https://t.co/eH15C4nekF">pic.twitter.com/eH15C4nekF</a></p>— Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1563902013766860800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

His son does an armbar

And drugs

"... but you already know that!"

slik

08-29-2022, 01:01 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">holy fucking shit look at this roid belly on EC3. <a href="https://t.co/ec5WB6uuuc">pic.twitter.com/ec5WB6uuuc</a></p>— Blue (@BlueArmBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueArmBar/status/1564095665894035458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect

08-29-2022, 03:49 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">holy fucking shit look at this roid belly on EC3. <a href="https://t.co/ec5WB6uuuc">pic.twitter.com/ec5WB6uuuc</a></p>— Blue (@BlueArmBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueArmBar/status/1564095665894035458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He’s got one thing going for him so he’s going to hit it and hit it and hit it until his heart explodes.

Mr. Nerfect

08-29-2022, 03:50 AM

Brock is a tremendous seller. He can bump, but he doesn’t do it that often. But frequency doesn’t necessarily equate to the best. Brock is just great.

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 07:14 PM

I hope Meiko Satomura wins the Women’s Championship at Worlds Collide and Mandy Rose goes up to the main roster as Alpha Academy’s female member.

I’d be happy with Tyler Bate becoming NXT Champion too. Bron Breakker can debut at the Survivor Series, even though it’s a couple of months out from WC. Maybe do a thing where Bron Breakker & Tyler Bate win the tag belts for a sneeze and eventually Bate beats Breakker to finish him up in NXT?

Bad News Gertner

08-30-2022, 09:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Adrian Adonis announces to the world he's gay, and one of the hand picked Titan Sports employees in the audience yells "AIDS is a killer!"<br><br>Jimmy Hart seems like the most supportive person in the whole promotion. "You did it baby!" <a href="https://t.co/03UTrrsWTD">pic.twitter.com/03UTrrsWTD</a></p>— ��IANdrew "Dice" Clay�� (@IANdrewTheGiant) <a href="https://twitter.com/IANdrewTheGiant/status/1564764288698515458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner

08-30-2022, 09:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">holy fucking shit look at this roid belly on EC3. <a href="https://t.co/ec5WB6uuuc">pic.twitter.com/ec5WB6uuuc</a></p>— Blue (@BlueArmBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueArmBar/status/1564095665894035458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol the Iron Sheik thinks that's impressive

Vastardikai

08-30-2022, 09:59 PM

Lol the Iron Sheik thinks that's impressive

EC3's roid gut is more cut than Adam Cole.

#1-norm-fan

08-30-2022, 10:42 PM

Roid guts are usually pretty cut. That’s what makes them roid guts.

Bad News Gertner

08-30-2022, 10:44 PM

Iron Sheik is the first person I think when I hear "roid gut". He looked pregnant.

Tatanka 2nd WWE run is the other

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tatanka.jpg

Vastardikai

08-30-2022, 10:46 PM

Iron Sheik is the first person I think when I hear "roid gut". He looked pregnant.

Tatanka 2nd WWE run is the other

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tatanka.jpg

More like FAT-anka, am I right?

... I'll show myself out.

Destor

08-30-2022, 10:50 PM

Roid guts are usually pretty cut. That’s what makes them roid guts.No thats a roid belly. Specially HGH. Causes the internal organs to grow giving a very bloated stomach. There's a huge push in body building to bring back the vacuum pose to disincentivize it. Every major body builder in the last 15 years has had a shit looking core. Theyre muscular cores but they look awful.

Destor

08-30-2022, 10:54 PM

Palumboism is the technical term

Mr. Nerfect

08-30-2022, 11:21 PM

Palumboism is also the term for wrestlers who adapt from one promotion to another by adopting a gay gimmick.

#1-norm-fan

08-30-2022, 11:32 PM

Roid guts are usually pretty cut. That’s what makes them roid guts.

No thats a roid belly.

lol Come on, man.

Fignuts

08-31-2022, 01:02 AM

Iron Sheik is the first person I think when I hear "roid gut". He looked pregnant.

Tatanka 2nd WWE run is the other

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tatanka.jpg

Road Warrior Animal

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-31-2022, 07:03 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is an all-time great Mean Gene WCW Hotline shill.<br><br>It’s not an exaggeration of an internet story or allusion to something really bad in real life.<br><br>Gene just made up a funny story about a Blue Blood sleeping with a British Royal. He even used the term “hanky panky”. <a href="https://t.co/t3WXOO8Jkb">pic.twitter.com/t3WXOO8Jkb</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1564587142499663875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito

08-31-2022, 08:42 AM

Gene was the best.

drave

08-31-2022, 08:53 AM

Iron Sheik is the first person I think when I hear "roid gut". He looked pregnant.

Tatanka 2nd WWE run is the other

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tatanka.jpg

WHAT'S STING DOING ON THE LAKOTA INDIAN RESERVATION?!!!!?

Rammsteinmad

08-31-2022, 10:16 AM

Was there no Raw this week? I can't seem to find results or anything on wwe.com about it?

Rammsteinmad

08-31-2022, 10:16 AM

Then again, wwe.com is a mess and is very confusing to navigate.

drave

08-31-2022, 10:38 AM

There was, but AAA was gone so nothing was updated.

Just watch the Matt Riddle and Seth Rollins stuff. Everything else was meh.

Bad News Gertner

08-31-2022, 10:42 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I present to you: Interns on the Prowl! This skit/vignette/whatever you want to call it is one of the worst things to ever air on wrestling television. It's even longer than this but I had to cut it for the twitter limit. <a href="https://t.co/zkju2MjmOF">pic.twitter.com/zkju2MjmOF</a></p>— Rasslin Uploader (Armstrong Alley on YouTube) (@KrisPLettuce) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisPLettuce/status/1564870513788440576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan

08-31-2022, 01:12 PM

What the fuck did I just watch?

Big Vic

08-31-2022, 01:38 PM

Are you asking which current superstar is going to be the Macho Man to Aurora’s Stephanie?

Matt Riddle.

Bad News Gertner

08-31-2022, 02:39 PM

What the fuck did I just watch?

Lmao IWA out of Nashville in the late 80s

Destor

08-31-2022, 03:38 PM

lol Come on, man.i guess i dont see what you're saying. Once you get the condition you have it. It doesnt go away no matter how fat you get

Bad News Gertner

08-31-2022, 05:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Demon vs Bobby Eaton is such a weird timeline-bending match. <a href="https://t.co/yvxsuAIEAQ">pic.twitter.com/yvxsuAIEAQ</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1565051902232084485?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik

08-31-2022, 05:51 PM

Bad News Gertner

08-31-2022, 07:12 PM

Mark Young is Chief Jay Strongbow's son

Ol Dirty Dastard

08-31-2022, 09:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On this day in 1987, Pat Patterson vs Brutus Beefcake was a key match in a show at the Montreal Forum!<br><br>Pat’s interview with Mean Gene leading up to the match is a delight<a href="https://t.co/BqNms6bRts">pic.twitter.com/BqNms6bRts</a></p>— Richard Land (@maskedwrestlers) <a href="https://twitter.com/maskedwrestlers/status/1565086484453007360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

M-A-G

08-31-2022, 10:52 PM

https://i.imgur.com/9abzymb.jpg

Bad News Gertner

08-31-2022, 10:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think everyone got hurt on this move. <a href="https://t.co/mBC5dDy0eY">pic.twitter.com/mBC5dDy0eY</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1565159429674352640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave

09-01-2022, 09:21 AM

PLEASE go back to this music. SO much better.

https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE/status/1565029161772662786?s=20&t=8WcqCoNkKtcWynla6FbdNQ

XL

09-01-2022, 09:58 AM

Fully expecting them to use this in some capacity on Saturday.

Mr. Nerfect

09-01-2022, 11:18 AM

I don’t know why you wouldn’t use Broken Dreams for Drew.

#1-norm-fan

09-01-2022, 12:06 PM

Lol If Drew McIntyre is the one who takes down Roman Reigns after all this time...

My God...

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-01-2022, 12:13 PM

In fairness, Drew seems like a total HHH guy.

Bad News Gertner

09-01-2022, 01:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was frightening how helpless grown men looked in Scott Steiner’s arms. <a href="https://t.co/FaBOrHWAtO">pic.twitter.com/FaBOrHWAtO</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1565384711966449667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ron the dial

09-01-2022, 03:12 PM

watching the final episode of nxtuk :'(

XL

09-01-2022, 03:31 PM

Lol If Drew McIntyre is the one who takes down Roman Reigns after all this time...

My God...

I was 100% certain there was no way he was winning. Now I’m not so certain. Drew missed out on his true crowning moment when he beat Lesnar at Mania as there was no crowd. I could see HHH wanting to give Drew that moment in the UK.

drave

09-01-2022, 03:50 PM

^

Vastardikai

09-01-2022, 04:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was frightening how helpless grown men looked in Scott Steiner’s arms. <a href="https://t.co/FaBOrHWAtO">pic.twitter.com/FaBOrHWAtO</a></p>— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1565384711966449667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

One of many reasons why the Steiners won the Best Tag Team Tournament.

#1-norm-fan

09-01-2022, 04:35 PM

I was 100% certain there was no way he was winning. Now I’m not so certain. Drew missed out on his true crowning moment when he beat Lesnar at Mania as there was no crowd. I could see HHH wanting to give Drew that moment in the UK.

Didn’t he drop the title like 2 months later anyway? It’s probably for the best that that “crowning moment” is forgettable in hindsight.

Triple H has all the power to try to properly build up a true star the way he wants before using the credibility Reigns has built to crown them. If he just uses it for another go with Drew, those Vince 2.0 vibes are gonna hit quick.

XL

09-01-2022, 05:01 PM

First run he dropped it after 7 months, regained it less than a month later and held it another 3 months.

I still don’t think he wins but I’m less certain now. Probably some screwy finish with Tyson Fury involved somehow.

Lock Jaw

09-01-2022, 06:32 PM

No one cares about Drew. They should stop trying to make Drew happen.

Mr. Nerfect

09-01-2022, 07:24 PM

Drew is a fine choice. There are plenty of things you can do with it. He’s far from the most dynamic pro-wrestler of all-time, but he’s really, really good. If you want people to care about him you better have some sort of plan of what to do with him whether he wins or loses.

I think the call is to have Drew win, but have it be screwy. Protect Reigns (yeah, he’s the heel, but he’s also a star). It will feel more exciting. Karrion Kross tries to get involved, knocks out referee. Riddle cancels out Kross (he wants Drew to win), Shane McMahon runs down in a referee’s shirt and helps Drew get the quick pin.

At Extreme Rules you can run Drew vs. Kross vs. Riddle and Reigns vs. Shane. Something totally different.

owenbrown

09-01-2022, 07:29 PM

throwing it out there for Nashvember 2022 in a couple of months that it should include clips/full versions of his Kliq This podcast from Youtube. They are so good.

slik

09-01-2022, 07:39 PM

owenbrown returning to tpww

bah gawd the glory days are back, thank you HHH

owenbunny

09-01-2022, 09:59 PM

throwing it out there for Nashvember 2022 in a couple of months that it should include clips/full versions of his Kliq This podcast from Youtube. They are so good.

Bad Bunny

#1-norm-fan

09-01-2022, 10:36 PM

First run he dropped it after 7 months, regained it less than a month later and held it another 3 months.

I still don’t think he wins but I’m less certain now. Probably some screwy finish with Tyson Fury involved somehow.

I could have swore he dropped it quicker to Orton. Maybe I’m thinking of someone else who had a big title win and then instantly got their momentum killed.

As far as the match, it’s one of those “If any result is bad then just don’t book the match” situations. He absolutely shouldn’t be the one to beat Reigns but how do you not end this big show on a shit note if Drew doesn’t win? A simple post-match beat down isn’t gonna cut it.

#1-norm-fan

09-01-2022, 10:49 PM

Oh man. Just thought of a horrible scenario where they try to execute a “win/win”. Drew wins, gets the huge extended celebration, crowd goes nuts, they go home happy...

And then the decision is reversed on Raw after it’s discovered Roman’s shoulder was up so his reign remains uninterrupted. lol

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-02-2022, 12:50 PM

Watching H’s interview with Helwani and he confirmed Brock walked out after Vince retired. Hmm… I guess Alavarez was right. How about that.

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-02-2022, 12:51 PM

So funny how careful Hunter is about what he says about Vince. As he should be—but still pretty hilarious.

#1-norm-fan

09-02-2022, 01:01 PM

Watching H’s interview with Helwani and he confirmed Brock walked out after Vince retired. Hmm… I guess Alavarez was right. How about that.

Oof.

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-02-2022, 01:20 PM

Oh god he hinted at getting emotional and he had all the sincerity of a president kissing a baby.

#1-norm-fan

09-02-2022, 02:16 PM

Beginning of the “Wednesday night wars”:

<a href="https://ibb.co/yqwJtwT"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/3cDH2DX/530476-C0-3-FFC-44-AB-BB81-8-C77-B64-F085-D.jpg" alt="530476-C0-3-FFC-44-AB-BB81-8-C77-B64-F085-D" border="0"></a>

Three years later:

<a href="https://ibb.co/THvnx7Q"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/2jnL1Cz/844-D4316-72-C4-4-B67-8-EEA-772-D604-DE9-DB.jpg" alt="844-D4316-72-C4-4-B67-8-EEA-772-D604-DE9-DB" border="0"></a>

Oof.

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-02-2022, 02:20 PM

Gotta put the spin on it.

#1-norm-fan

09-02-2022, 02:24 PM

Lol I heard the full quote. He started out downplaying it by saying it was never a war which is fine because I don’t think he ever actually claimed it was a war to begin with.

But then he followed it up with that and… yeah…

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-02-2022, 02:29 PM

HHH is still HHH. People laud him as a hero but he's a shrewd, reprehensible fuck from time to time. I respect him as a shark--and he obviously has a mind for wrestling. But he a piece of shit.

Never forget the reign of terror. And never forget that he's responsible for white-washing (or McMahon washing) so much of the overall wrestling and WWE narrative. He's a propagandist to the highest degree.

Bad News Gertner

09-02-2022, 02:44 PM

He's just trolling AEW

#1-norm-fan

09-02-2022, 02:44 PM

I also heard a clip from an interview a few weeks ago where he echoed the old “Vince took wrestling out of dingy bars and high school gyms” narrative.

Ol Dirty Dastard

09-02-2022, 02:45 PM

I also heard a clip from an interview a few weeks ago where he echoed the old “Vince took wrestling out of dingy bars and high school gyms” narrative.

That definitely came to mind. Like he--of all people--knows that's just not true lol

Bad News Gertner

09-02-2022, 02:47 PM

Lol @ all the mizarks getting their mom washed undies in a bunch