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Ol Dirty Dastard
08-08-2018, 09:31 PM
Keep on trying to spin it that way, child. :wave: Cute that you're so vain you actually check "rep", funny that it matters so much to some bell-ends.



lol dude you're literally neg repping me so it obviously matters to you, you weeny.

Mr. Nerfect
08-08-2018, 10:28 PM
Nah, Brock is going to end up in New Japan.

Mr. Nerfect
08-08-2018, 10:30 PM
Seriously though, why would Brock not be offered a flexible WWE deal? He's already worked both UFC and WWE at the same time before. What would change? I think Daniel Bryan is going to angle for something flexible too, because he seems to have some "passion projects" he wants to work on, but also has his family to think about. I'm not saying he'll get it, but it wouldn't shock me to see Bryan working Wrestle Kingdom and WrestleMania next year.

Emperor Smeat
08-08-2018, 10:54 PM
Seriously though, why would Brock not be offered a flexible WWE deal? He's already worked both UFC and WWE at the same time before. What would change?

Probably money and being creatively shackled for anything big involving him.

On the flip side, could see UFC be wary of him continuing working in the WWE since last time he tried to juggle both, it lead to him failing a drug test and getting suspended for a year.

Mr. Nerfect
08-08-2018, 11:10 PM
Vince doesn't think of UFC as competition. He sees what he does as completely separate. I don't think that should be the case, but I don't think he cares if Brock Lesnar gets killed in an octagon as Universal Champion. It's s big, ugly fake red plastic-looking belt. UFC won't even mention it and Brock won't come to the ring if he has it.

The drug-testing is more of a reason UFC would be weary, but they also like their PPV money, and Brock is money in the UFC because he knows how to play heel and do things like beat the piss out of Mark Hunt and then test positive for PEDs.

As long as Brock is willing to make appearances and be the most over thing he's got, then I don't think he really cares what happens in the UFC.

Emperor Smeat
08-08-2018, 11:30 PM
Yeah Lesnar is the biggest winner out of the three since he has less to worry about. UFC would probably be the biggest loser since any issues with Lesnar hurts WWE way less than it would with UFC.

Just having both interested in him already gives him huge leverage in talks. If I remember, he's pretty much used UFC as a trump card to bump up his WWE pay every time a new deal was being made. While Vince doesn't see UFC as competition, he also isn't that willing to give a big star for someone else to use and not get something back in return. WWE pretty much kept locking him down in yearly deals until very recently.

Nicky Fives
08-09-2018, 01:19 AM
Brock brings ratings to both promotions, I'd love to be in his shoes negotiating with them both. I don't see why he can't do both, he barely appears on WWE television as it is, Vince should sign him to a per appearance deal and work it around his UFC fight camps. Brock doesn't have that many years left in either promotion, so they have to capitalize on his drawing ability sooner rather than later.

GD
08-09-2018, 05:16 AM
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Gerard
08-09-2018, 09:12 AM
lol dude you're literally neg repping me so it obviously matters to you, you weeny.

Incorrect, the whole point of doing it was to see if you were sad enough to actually check rep, and sure enough you were so clearly it's something you care about. :rofl:

slik
08-09-2018, 09:45 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An owl sitting with its legs crossed. Why? We will never know and the owl will never tell. <a href="https://t.co/o2u9xw723U">pic.twitter.com/o2u9xw723U</a></p>&mdash; Nnedi Okorafor, PhD (@Nnedi) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nnedi/status/1027035900532772865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Destor
08-09-2018, 09:48 AM
that would be in the adorable animals thread silk...how dare

slik
08-09-2018, 09:50 AM
oh woops meant to post in casual

#mybad

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 09:53 AM
Incorrect, the whole point of doing it was to see if you were sad enough to actually check rep, and sure enough you were so clearly it's something you care about. :rofl:

... most posters here check their rep. A lot of the time we msg one another through our rep. Plus, I enjoy getting positive repped for a good post, like any normal human being would. You're a strange, little man.

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 10:03 AM
That owl is patiently waiting for Impact tonight.

slik
08-09-2018, 10:08 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When my dog got somethin’ in his mouth he ain’t supposed to be eatin’ <a href="https://t.co/RvvpSPlopL">pic.twitter.com/RvvpSPlopL</a></p>&mdash; Stoney Keeley (@StoneyKeeley) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneyKeeley/status/1027253911055421440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:13 AM
... most posters here check their rep. A lot of the time we msg one another through our rep. Plus, I enjoy getting positive repped for a good post, like any normal human being would. You're a strange, little man.

Because getting validation from random people online means so much, at least to you. :rofl:

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:22 AM
Because getting validation from random people online means so much, at least to you. :rofl:

:wtf:

Destor
08-09-2018, 10:25 AM
Because getting validation from random people online means so much, at least to you. :rofl:

lol wut

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:28 AM
Plus, I enjoy getting positive repped for a good post,

Because getting validation from random people online means so much, at least to you. :rofl:

:wtf:

Have to draw it out in crayon it seems. :roll:

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:34 AM
Well I'm friends with many of these people. And I admitted I like getting repped from them. Am I supposed to feel bad about this?

Destor
08-09-2018, 10:36 AM
Well I'm friends with many of these people. And I admitted I like getting repped from them. Am I supposed to feel bad about this?

how dare you enjoy interacting with humans. this is the internet you nerd.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:39 AM
Well I'm friends with many of these people. And I admitted I like getting repped from them. Am I supposed to feel bad about this?

Upto you how you feel about it. :yes:

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:40 AM
how dare you enjoy interacting with humans. this is the internet you nerd.

You are right and thank for opening my eyes to my own ignorance.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:40 AM
I wish I were as much of a tough, cool guy as Gerard. I suppose one day if I buy a leather jacket and sun glasses, stuff some dorks into lockers, and smoke cigarettes, I'll have half of a chance.

slik
08-09-2018, 10:40 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: As first reported by <a href="https://twitter.com/espn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@espn</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneeYoungWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneeYoungWWE</a> will make history this Monday night as guest commentator for the full duration of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a>! <a href="https://t.co/0CVjshUZAL">https://t.co/0CVjshUZAL</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1027560652569829379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:41 AM
Who rattled your cage? Cockwomble.

lol dude. you are troublingly defensive.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:41 AM
I wish I were as much of a tough, cool guy as Gerard. I suppose one day if I buy a leather jacket and sun glasses, stuff some dorks into lockers, and smoke cigarettes, I'll have half of a chance.

That boat has long sailed, kid. So you have zero chance. :p

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:42 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: As first reported by <a href="https://twitter.com/espn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@espn</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneeYoungWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneeYoungWWE</a> will make history this Monday night as guest commentator for the full duration of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a>! <a href="https://t.co/0CVjshUZAL">https://t.co/0CVjshUZAL</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1027560652569829379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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More shoehorning in of women in areas that were previously all male. :nono:

Destor
08-09-2018, 10:43 AM
You are right and thank for opening my eyes to my own ignorance.

No prob bob

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:46 AM
No prob bob

https://i.imgur.com/BvjUnAH.jpg

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:47 AM
you humble me

you forgot to accuse both of us of being virgins.

Destor
08-09-2018, 10:48 AM
Gerard is a nice guy. really respectful

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:49 AM
you forgot to accuse both of us of being virgins.

It's obvious to everyone.

Destor
08-09-2018, 10:50 AM
Oh, so sorry

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:51 AM
One of the so called mods jumping in to defend his soggy biscuit buddies, how sad.

Destor
08-09-2018, 10:51 AM
As much as Ive enjoyed this I have to get back to work now :lol: Have fun Dale

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:52 AM
As much as Ive enjoyed this I have to get back to work now :lol: Have fun Dale

Yeah sucking dick on the street corners must be very time consuming, enjoy "work".

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:53 AM
roflmao I appreciate the cameo kindest Destor

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:54 AM
roflmao I appreciate the cameo kindest Destor

Yeah, seems you needed the help anyway. :rofl:

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 10:56 AM
Gerard, you strike me as a man who doesn't wipe his asshole after he shits. Just a "vibe" I get from you.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 10:58 AM
Gerard, you strike me as a man who doesn't wipe his asshole after he shits. Just a "vibe" I get from you.

No need to wipe when you and destor can tongue my arsehole clean. :lol:

Big Vic
08-09-2018, 10:59 AM
Gerard you are acting pretty narvish, please stop.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:00 AM
Gerard you are acting pretty narvish, please stop.

I will as soon as i add the butt buddies to my ignore list, in process.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 11:00 AM
Gerard, I am not coming all the way to your remedial school to tongue your asshole. I know it's a dream of yours, but I simply don't have the time.

slik
08-09-2018, 11:02 AM
Just got a weird dm from Gerard and I haven't even interacted w/ him

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:03 AM
Gerard, I am not coming all the way to your remedial school to tongue your asshole. I know it's a dream of yours, but I simply don't have the time.

That's not what you said last night after my vindaloo shit explosion dump, all you could do was bitch and cry about how hot it was. So while tongueing my arsehole you had to take a break to cool your mouth down with water.

Btw, now on the ignore list. :)

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 11:04 AM
Just got a weird dm from Gerard and I haven't even interacted w/ him

It was odd how me criticizing him for calling Brock Lesnar fat led to this. Oh well, it was a wild ride while it lasted.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:04 AM
Just got a weird dm from Gerard and I haven't even interacted w/ him

Just so happens you were viewing this thread while posts were being edited, so i assumed it was you acting a bollocks.

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 11:11 AM
Bitch move to pulling the ignore card. I guess Brock Lesnar isn't far after all.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:12 AM
Bitch move to pulling the ignore card. I guess Brock Lesnar isn't far after all.

Isn't far, so he's near?

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 11:13 AM
Fat

Big Vic
08-09-2018, 11:19 AM
Slik abusing mod powers again? for shame.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:20 AM
Fat

Mr Magoo might agree with that assessment. Generally when someone's gut is dangling over the waistband of their shorts it would be classed as fat especially considering how he used to look.

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 11:24 AM
Guy is built like a grizzly, are they fat as well.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:27 AM
Guy is built like a grizzly, are they fat as well.

Again, im comparing how he looks NOW compared to how he used to look. Maybe he's bulking up for his ufc match, i don't know.

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 11:27 AM
It's not nice to body shame people though.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:29 AM
It's not nice to body shame people though.

:lol:

Big Vic
08-09-2018, 11:31 AM
Bottom line is no body is Fat and nobody is tossing salad.

Big Vic
08-09-2018, 11:32 AM
By this logic Scott Steiner is also fat.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:38 AM
Not sure what Wrestlemania this was:

https://i.imgur.com/sJa0FFy.jpg

vs

https://i.imgur.com/qiwLFTA.png

Gerard
08-09-2018, 11:41 AM
By this logic Scott Steiner is also fat.

Steiner has lost a shit ton of muscle, last i seen him wrestle he had arm pads pretty much covering the vast majority of his arms as they're not even vaguely close to the size they used to be. Was wearing a t shirt as well so no clue about him being fat or thinner.

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 11:41 AM
By this logic Scott Steiner is also fat.

That crosses the line. Scott hate fat asses.

Cool King
08-09-2018, 11:42 AM
Not sure what Wrestlemania this was:

https://i.imgur.com/sJa0FFy.jpg

WrestleMania 29.

Sepholio
08-09-2018, 11:45 AM
... most posters here check their rep. A lot of the time we msg one another through our rep. Plus, I enjoy getting positive repped for a good post, like any normal human being would. You're a strange, little man.

Indeed. I constantly send rep messages to my homey Dale to tell him just how toxic he really is.

Evil Vito
08-09-2018, 12:08 PM
I remember Brock and Triple H having a match at WrestleMania 29 but I couldn't tell you any specifics about the match itself because I was bored as hell by it despite being in the stadium.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 12:29 PM
I remember Brock and Triple H having a match at WrestleMania 29 but I couldn't tell you any specifics about the match itself because I was bored as hell by it despite being in the stadium.

2 charisma vacuums in the same ring will do that :p

Bad News Gertner
08-09-2018, 12:33 PM
Lol this piss fest is going on 2 days. Wow.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 12:41 PM
Lol this piss fest is going on 2 days. Wow.

Bodyshaming Brock Lesnar is srs business.

Innovator
08-09-2018, 12:55 PM
USADA testing is a motherfucker Gerard.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 01:19 PM
USADA testing is a motherfucker Gerard.

Didn't he already get caught for steroids and was on some kind of suspension?

Innovator
08-09-2018, 01:31 PM
He had to rejoin the testing pool as of middle of July I believe. He has 6 months to serve the suspension and get tested before he can fight again.

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-09-2018, 01:37 PM
Renee Young gonna make Coach look like a plate full of piss. Def going to be watching this one. :y:

Big Vic
08-09-2018, 02:00 PM
Hopefully she replaces Byron

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 02:26 PM
She probably won't be as good as JBL or Booker T but might be an upgrade to Coach.

Vastardikai
08-09-2018, 02:27 PM
I don't think she could possibly do any worse than the other ones.

But I know it's a blatant publicity stunt.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 02:30 PM
I don't think she could possibly do any worse than the other ones.

But I know it's a blatant publicity stunt.

WOMAN POWERRRRRRRRRRR or something.

Destor
08-09-2018, 02:47 PM
I don't think she could possibly do any worse than the other ones.

But I know it's a blatant publicity stunt.

At least she's super talented. She's the best commentator they have imo. She has a great voice and buy he love of wrestling. She's also great at translating the product into a very human presentation. She makes the product feel like its a story about real people and thats something they havent had since Michael Cole took JRs job.

Destor
08-09-2018, 02:48 PM
I dont think she is getting the spot for the right reasons but she should have had the job a long time ago on skill alone.

Lock Jaw
08-09-2018, 02:50 PM
I enjoyed Renee on commentary way back in NXT

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 02:52 PM
She probably won't be as good as JBL or Booker T but might be an upgrade to Coach.

It does not take much to be better than JBL or Booker

Destor
08-09-2018, 02:52 PM
JBL was excellent *shrug*

Simple Fan
08-09-2018, 02:55 PM
It does not take much to be better than JBL or Booker

They're the best, I'd love to have just them on commentary for one night at least.

Big Vic
08-09-2018, 03:08 PM
Wait maybe this means less bickering, cool. :cool:

To bad the actual product of raw is awful and I will not be watching.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 03:12 PM
JBL was excellent *shrug*

not towards the end of his run. I know he started like a house of fire, but he seemed to stop caring during his second run as a commentator and was one of the worst i'd ever heard.

Emperor Smeat
08-09-2018, 04:18 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I've said it before, but it bears repeating: <a href="https://twitter.com/YTR_CHAOS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@YTR_CHAOS</a> is a brilliant artist that paints his canvas with low blows. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/G128?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#G128</a><br><br>➡️ <a href="https://t.co/8n90d75Nfk">https://t.co/8n90d75Nfk</a> <a href="https://t.co/0Lc0vLKyH9">pic.twitter.com/0Lc0vLKyH9</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1027404904921538562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat
08-09-2018, 04:30 PM
I don't think she could possibly do any worse than the other ones.

But I know it's a blatant publicity stunt.

The timing does make it look like nothing more than cheap PR especially with the MYC but Renee does have past experience in sports commentary.

If WWE is actually serious about moving her into a more commentary role, pairing her with Cole and starting off as the 3rd person in the booth for MYC and RAW is actually a very smart idea. Booker and Coach already showed what happens when you rush someone into the booth with no experience and/or little to no help given.

Gerard
08-09-2018, 05:30 PM
Mr Brooks heading to court, yet again.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/colt-cabana-cm-punk-contract-legal-fees-lawsuit/

Fignuts
08-09-2018, 05:53 PM
Oh shit.

Pretty scummy of Punk if Colts story is true.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-09-2018, 06:01 PM
It doesn't seem like Cabana would be out to screw punk.

slik
08-09-2018, 10:55 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today I found out that my 16 year old autistic brother tried to hang himself. He wrote a suicide note saying he was tired of being picked on and being treated like he is dumb. <br><br>This broke my heart and luckily my brother is ok but this world is getting ridiculous! ��������</p>&mdash; �� dᴉlℲ (@TheFlipGordon) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFlipGordon/status/1027680259439775744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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GD
08-10-2018, 12:25 AM
Fuck! I am glad he's safe.

https://www.crisistextline.org

GD
08-10-2018, 12:31 AM
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Emperor Smeat
08-10-2018, 12:59 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/FdH8ltskdx">pic.twitter.com/FdH8ltskdx</a></p>&mdash; Backyard Wrestling Out Of Context (@BackyardOOC) <a href="https://twitter.com/BackyardOOC/status/1021085235755323392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Currently in tears from laughing soo much at the stuff on this Twitter account.

owenbrown
08-10-2018, 01:08 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/FdH8ltskdx">pic.twitter.com/FdH8ltskdx</a></p>&mdash; Backyard Wrestling Out Of Context (@BackyardOOC) <a href="https://twitter.com/BackyardOOC/status/1021085235755323392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Currently in tears from laughing soo much at the stuff on this Twitter account.

and followed

Droford
08-10-2018, 09:06 AM
I wanted to get ROH tux..but no

#1-norm-fan
08-10-2018, 01:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An owl sitting with its legs crossed. Why? We will never know and the owl will never tell. <a href="https://t.co/o2u9xw723U">pic.twitter.com/o2u9xw723U</a></p>&mdash; Nnedi Okorafor, PhD (@Nnedi) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nnedi/status/1027035900532772865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Owl is fat as fuck. Debate me.

Ol Dirty Dastard
08-10-2018, 01:20 PM
Owl is fat as fuck. Debate me.

how dare you :rant:

Emperor Smeat
08-10-2018, 03:05 PM
Rumor going around the net hints both Pentagon Jr and Fenix could be heading to the WWE as early as next month.

Right now they are still locked in for All In but recently canceled bookings for MLW's next set of tv tapings in early October. Both also recenty told promoters they can't guarantee they will be able to honor any of their scheduled bookings for next year.

slik
08-10-2018, 04:13 PM
Wouldn't that affect Lucha Underground the most? Isn't Penta basically their version of Roman Reigns?

Emperor Smeat
08-10-2018, 04:24 PM
Yes and somewhat.

Mexico's AAA promotion already expects both guys to be pretty much done with the company after this month's Triplemanía event. Since LU is now a lot more relaxed with contracts, safe to assume both are gone after this season ends.

slik
08-10-2018, 04:39 PM
I think NJPW / ROH / IMPACT will all survive a roster massacre by WWE tbh

Jericho rumored for IMPACT

ZSJ/Okada/Sanada/Juice Robinson/ Hangman Paige all likely to stay w/ NJPW thru 2019

Flip signed to ROH

Simple Fan
08-10-2018, 04:39 PM
Will suck for Impact as well. At the moment Pentagon and other LU talent are on TV 3 times a week with different promotions. Really have no interest in them in being in WWE. Pretty sure WWE really dont even want them but are just trying to keep them away from other companies which is pretty shitty.

slik
08-10-2018, 04:41 PM
WWE could care less about any of them in that regard

Anyone who thinks The Young Bucks, Omega, Pentagon or Fenix will be big deals in WWE is being dense. Vince doesn't care about tag teams very much, Fenix and Pentagon will be used for 205 Live and Omega won't be given a main-event spot.

It's more about Vince owning all the toys so other promotions can't play w/ them.

Emperor Smeat
08-10-2018, 05:03 PM
WWE would be a lot better off in the long run if they actually established a minor league system like baseball does than trying to wreck the indies. They sort of have the idea with multiple NXT brands around the world but those are designed more to hurt local wrestling scenes so nobody can achieve any notable success without WWE's permission.

At some point the indies are going to hit another nasty down period and unlike previous times, its going to be a lot harder for them to recover. Last major one I think was when UFC and MMA became extremely popular.

Jordan
08-10-2018, 05:33 PM
Rumor going around the net hints both Pentagon Jr and Fenix could be heading to the WWE as early as next month.

Right now they are still locked in for All In but recently canceled bookings for MLW's next set of tv tapings in early October. Both also recenty told promoters they can't guarantee they will be able to honor any of their scheduled bookings for next year.

Goddamn... that sucks for me. They had Penta and Fenix vs LA Park and someone else I was pumped for it too. But instead I'll see LA Park vs PCO which is probably going to be much more epic.

DaveWadding
08-10-2018, 05:46 PM
Wouldn't that affect Lucha Underground the most? Isn't Penta basically their version of Roman Reigns?

Yes, it will effect them the most.

No, he is not their Roman Reigns. That was Sexy Star and she's dead.

#1-norm-fan
08-10-2018, 05:53 PM
WWE could care less about any of them in that regard

Anyone who thinks The Young Bucks, Omega, Pentagon or Fenix will be big deals in WWE is being dense. Vince doesn't care about tag teams very much, Fenix and Pentagon will be used for 205 Live and Omega won't be given a main-event spot.

It's more about Vince owning all the toys so other promotions can't play w/ them.

If Styles and Namamura got main event spots, there's no reason Omega wouldn't. He'd have more hype behind him than either of them did when they came in.

slik
08-10-2018, 06:11 PM
I just can't picture Vince "getting" Omega

Evil Vito
08-10-2018, 06:12 PM
If Styles and Namamura got main event spots, there's no reason Omega wouldn't. He'd have more hype behind him than either of them did when they came in.

Yes. But the SmackDown main event spot is always going to be treated as second or even third or fourth banana in terms of importance for these dual brand PPVs.

Evil Vito
08-10-2018, 06:16 PM
Maria has suffered a setback in her return as she has a broken wrist.

Mike Kanellis to remain irrelevant for the foreseeable future.

Lock Jaw
08-10-2018, 06:16 PM
If Styles and Namamura got main event spots, there's no reason Omega wouldn't. He'd have more hype behind him than either of them did when they came in.

No way would he have more hype than AJ Styles......

screech
08-10-2018, 06:35 PM
Catching up on my rasslin. Lashley is not a v good promo guy still.

Love me some Elias, though.

slik
08-10-2018, 06:40 PM
dreading first promo where Kenny Omega says he did it for the WWE Universe and talks about how this is his dream, etc

#GenericBabyfaceKenny

screech
08-10-2018, 06:43 PM
I'm on board with this Jinder gimmick.

screech
08-10-2018, 06:44 PM
I could do this in the RAW thread, but I'm gonna watch SD right after this. May as well ramble on all of it in one place.

slik
08-10-2018, 06:45 PM
"They call him The Cleaner because he likes to Clean Up in the ring"
"Kenny is CLEANIN' UP"

Michael Cole on commentary during a Kenny Omega match

slik
08-10-2018, 06:48 PM
"For the first time ever tonight Kenny Omega will go one on one with Bobby Roode. You won't see this in a Bingo Hall".

- Michael Cole

slik
08-10-2018, 06:48 PM
"Roode picks up the win"

- Michael Cole

slik
08-10-2018, 06:53 PM
(Omega hits an opponent with a 'One-Winged Angel')

"Kenny w/ a reverse falcon arrow for the win"

- Michael Cole

screech
08-10-2018, 07:06 PM
lol Cole would probably just yell "there it is!"

screech
08-10-2018, 07:29 PM
I like how they gave Alicia Fox a 25-second hype package. A shame they couldn't show any of her crazy side. Loved that shit.

screech
08-10-2018, 07:31 PM
Heyman/Renee knocking this sit-down outta the park.

Savio
08-10-2018, 07:32 PM
WWE: People should boo Brock because he isn't a fan of the WWE.

Also WWE: Lets make fun of Baley and AJ Lee because they have been WWE fans their whole life.

Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2018, 07:37 PM
205 Live is fun as fuck these days. Love it.

screech
08-10-2018, 07:43 PM
I really need to watch 205 Live.

screech
08-10-2018, 07:43 PM
And catch up on NXT. Fuck

screech
08-10-2018, 07:45 PM
lol Alicia and Ronda getting the championship introductions

Mr. Nerfect
08-10-2018, 07:48 PM
I dont think she is getting the spot for the right reasons but she should have had the job a long time ago on skill alone.

She was excellent in NXT. She seems to be able to slip enough organic skill into the job to be able to thrive in a WWE environment. Could see her becoming a fan favorite commentator, to be honest.

I enjoyed Renee on commentary way back in NXT

"I hope you guys don't rub off on me."

WWE would be a lot better off in the long run if they actually established a minor league system like baseball does than trying to wreck the indies. They sort of have the idea with multiple NXT brands around the world but those are designed more to hurt local wrestling scenes so nobody can achieve any notable success without WWE's permission.

At some point the indies are going to hit another nasty down period and unlike previous times, its going to be a lot harder for them to recover. Last major one I think was when UFC and MMA became extremely popular.

The idea is really good in theory, but they want everyone to work the same, so it's really just a network of bland. If they actually saw it as an opportunity to produce different styles and flavors of wrestling, it could be really good. Right now, you just have "mainstream WWE" and "boutique WWE."

screech
08-10-2018, 07:49 PM
Ronda spiking the mic - that's the version of her I want to see all the time.

Okay, at least more often than "aw shucks I'm happy to be here" Ronda.

Mr. Nerfect
08-10-2018, 07:50 PM
No way would he have more hype than AJ Styles......

AJ Styles came in unannounced. They would likely bring in Omega with vignettes and hype because they want to capitalize on him. He's worse than AJ Styles, but they'll present it like the biggest deal ever.

screech
08-10-2018, 07:54 PM
On to SD - Randy Orton doing some yelling. Nice.

screech
08-10-2018, 07:55 PM
Usually don't like Orton promos because they...take....so...long. But this one is pretty good so far.

Mainly because of the yelling.

Mr. Nerfect
08-10-2018, 07:58 PM
I haven't seen any promos since 2016, really, but Orton impressed me when he came back, because he had this "I don't give a fuck" attitude about him. But not in a bad way. In a he's not going to be super-pedantic to care about the office's feelings and will make things sound the way he wants to.

screech
08-10-2018, 08:00 PM
Becky took a little shot at Sasha and Bayley while chatting with Charlotte.

Other people should do that. It would keep the "brand competition" going without having to do much.

Bad News Gertner
08-10-2018, 08:08 PM
Bought an awesome Dr. X T-shirt tosay

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71sTv-x9tdL._SL1500_.jpg

screech
08-10-2018, 08:09 PM
That is wonderful

Bad News Gertner
08-10-2018, 08:13 PM
I already can't wait to wear it on Casual Friday at work

screech
08-10-2018, 08:20 PM
Will anyone at work "get it?"

Mr. Nerfect
08-10-2018, 08:22 PM
That shirt came up on the Cornette podcast this week. :heart:

screech
08-10-2018, 08:23 PM
Rusev and Lana forgave Aiden English. What a moment!

Mr. Nerfect
08-10-2018, 08:31 PM
Kind of just want Aiden English to be the babyface little buddy of Rusev forever and be a guy the heels destroy to get heat so Rusev can slaughter them for justice.

screech
08-10-2018, 08:31 PM
Zelina Vega is good. I also enjoy looking at her.

screech
08-10-2018, 08:34 PM
lol I forgot R-Truth was on SD until a few weeks ago, but I've enjoyed his segments lately.

"I'm gonna go what everyone else does: pin Carmella." Wonderful.

screech
08-10-2018, 08:57 PM
Miz on fire with this promo. I'm fucking excited for his match with Bryan.

screech
08-10-2018, 08:58 PM
And here's Bryan!

MIZ WITH THE VASE! (Disappointed no one on commentary yelled that.)

screech
08-10-2018, 09:10 PM
Thought the dude in the blue against Harper and Rowan was Santino. That would've been a nice surprise

slik
08-10-2018, 09:12 PM
(Omega hits an opponent with a 'One-Winged Angel')

"Kenny w/ a reverse falcon arrow for the win"

- Michael Cole


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now if he’s on SmackDown Live<br><br>“Huge move by Omega! Over for the cover, and a Kick Out! Back and forth action. SmackDown Live Rolls on”<br><br>- Tom Phillips</p>&mdash; Jamel Lewis (@JLewisUTW) <a href="https://twitter.com/JLewisUTW/status/1028065124089774086?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
08-10-2018, 09:14 PM
I am enjoying all screech's commentary btw

Lock Jaw
08-10-2018, 09:15 PM
AJ Styles came in unannounced. They would likely bring in Omega with vignettes and hype because they want to capitalize on him. He's worse than AJ Styles, but they'll present it like the biggest deal ever.

Ohhh ok. You mean in that sense.

I thought you meant the general "hype" to see them in WWE by the fans, and not literally "hype packages" or whatever put out by WWE before the debut.

slik
08-10-2018, 09:17 PM
Kenny gets a WWEShop shirt involving a cartoon version of himself and a mop


"I'M CLEANING UP" on the back

Simple Fan
08-10-2018, 09:21 PM
Just wait til he loses a hair vs hair and becomes the actual Mr. Clean.

Simple Fan
08-10-2018, 09:23 PM
Damnit now I actually want to see a AJ Styles vs Kenny Omega hair vs hair match and the only place that can happen is WWE.

screech
08-10-2018, 09:23 PM
Really good tag team match (playa) with New Day and Da Bar. Big E missing a splash on the apron looked fuckin rough.

Simple Fan
08-10-2018, 09:24 PM
I am enjoying all screech's commentary btw

Has been a good run down.

screech
08-10-2018, 09:27 PM
Big fan of the flying trust fall that Kofi does

screech
08-10-2018, 09:31 PM
The Bar with a White Noise double team move, but I don't think Cesaro hit anything coming off the top lol

screech
08-10-2018, 09:32 PM
Has anyone done a Sharpshooter/STF? Feel like Cesaro could pull that off.

screech
08-10-2018, 09:32 PM
Holy shit Kofi with the tornado DDT off the barricade. That was great

screech
08-10-2018, 09:34 PM
Love that Cesaro kept the crossface on Big E until the last possible moment. What a fun match

Bad News Gertner
08-10-2018, 10:25 PM
Will anyone at work "get it?"

God no, but I'll get lots of questions about it

Bad News Gertner
08-10-2018, 10:26 PM
That shirt came up on the Cornette podcast this week. :heart:

Lol dude, I've been wanting a Destroyer mask forevvvvver and totally forgot about the shirt that Deborah Harry from Blondie wore. Tremendous t shirt.

screech
08-10-2018, 10:32 PM
I met The Destroyer at the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. He was super nice and drove to the ceremony in his mask, which I thought was hilarious.

Bad News Gertner
08-10-2018, 10:52 PM
Lol he didn't speak english! Amazing! He's from New York

Emperor Smeat
08-10-2018, 10:59 PM
Kenny gets a WWEShop shirt involving a cartoon version of himself and a mop
I'd probably buy it if that was actually made.

"I'M CLEANING UP" on the back
:n: Money going right back into my wallet instead.

Emperor Smeat
08-10-2018, 11:02 PM
Has anyone done a Sharpshooter/STF? Feel like Cesaro could pull that off.

Muta Lock might be the closest to it although you'd be upside down for the STF part.

screech
08-10-2018, 11:15 PM
Lol he didn't speak english! Amazing! He's from New York

lol that's awesome.

Fuck, that was such a fun weekend. Hung out in a bar with Davey O'Hannon, Johnny Rodz, and Dominic Denucci (they were the main guys - O'Hannon was friends with my college roommate's dad) and listened to road stories for a night.

Droford
08-10-2018, 11:54 PM
Catching up on my rasslin. Lashley is not a v good promo guy still.

Love me some Elias, though.

At tonight's house show Lashley got Elias to play Knocking on Heavens Door. Big sing along and then Elias nailed Bob when he turned his back. A legit 20 minute house show segment. Elias sat in his chair for 5 minutes before saying a word. Ridiculous

screech
08-10-2018, 11:57 PM
That sounds lovely

Lock Jaw
08-11-2018, 12:53 AM
Elias was certainly one of the best parts of the house show I went to awhile back

Anybody Thrilla
08-11-2018, 02:02 AM
Thought the dude in the blue against Harper and Rowan was Santino. That would've been a nice surprise

He kicked Austin Aries in the balls on last week's Impact.

Anybody Thrilla
08-11-2018, 03:54 AM
I'm really digging Tessa Blanchard these days.

GD
08-11-2018, 03:57 AM
Zelina ain't tranquilo about being associated with a certain individual

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am going to say this once: <br>We are NOT together and have not been together for a very long time. We were certainly NEVER married or engaged. I’ve moved on a long time ago and do not wish to be associated with him. <a href="https://t.co/6iTDn4LooV">https://t.co/6iTDn4LooV</a></p>&mdash; Zelina Vega (@Zelina_VegaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zelina_VegaWWE/status/1028027551632056320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Anybody Thrilla
08-11-2018, 04:14 AM
Austin Aries?

Bad News Gertner
08-11-2018, 06:06 AM
lol that's awesome.

Fuck, that was such a fun weekend. Hung out in a bar with Davey O'Hannon, Johnny Rodz, and Dominic Denucci (they were the main guys - O'Hannon was friends with my college roommate's dad) and listened to road stories for a night.

I talk to Davey every once in a while on facebook in group we are in. Very nice guy. Rodz is the fucking man.

Cool King
08-11-2018, 07:10 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TjU948M0ARw" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bad News Gertner
08-11-2018, 08:30 AM
He also released a music video

2g9r8oRNV7c

Gerard
08-11-2018, 03:03 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pLH0b5UO2lg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Mr. Nerfect
08-11-2018, 04:14 PM
Austin Aries?

Yeah, I'm not sure when they separated, but Aries made a comment about his "ex" doing very well in NXT a while back.

LibSuperstar
08-11-2018, 05:10 PM
I talk to Davey every once in a while on facebook in group we are in. Very nice guy. Rodz is the fucking man.

Is that The Masked Superstar in your avy, Gert?

Seanny One Ball
08-11-2018, 11:09 PM
Can anyone think of any strong finishes for heel wrestlers that clearly diminish the face they are fighting?

I'm just done watching Shawn Michaels Vs Tito Santana at Wrestlemania VIII and the finish makes Tito look awful. Like a naive nobody.
He hits his terrible forearm finisher and Shawn immediately rolls out of the ring so no fan believes he's in trouble and then when Tito pulls him back in he tries to scoop slam him in only for Shawn to hold the ropes, unbalance Tito and pin him for the strangest, least impactful 1-2-3 clean count I may ever have seen.

GD
08-11-2018, 11:47 PM
Zelina ain't tranquilo about being associated with a certain individual

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am going to say this once: <br>We are NOT together and have not been together for a very long time. We were certainly NEVER married or engaged. I’ve moved on a long time ago and do not wish to be associated with him. <a href="https://t.co/6iTDn4LooV">https://t.co/6iTDn4LooV</a></p>&mdash; Zelina Vega (@Zelina_VegaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zelina_VegaWWE/status/1028027551632056320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Austin Aries?

Yep

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/tumblr_mmm735Uzuy1rlmi6co1_400.gif

GD
08-11-2018, 11:50 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure when they separated, but Aries made a comment about his "ex" doing very well in NXT a while back.

He also "congratulated" her when she was called up to Smackdown along with Andrade Cien Almas.

Seanny One Ball
08-11-2018, 11:51 PM
Is that gif showing a man mount his real-life ex in a non-kayfabe moment?

Lock Jaw
08-12-2018, 12:04 AM
Is that gif showing a man mount his real-life ex in a non-kayfabe moment?

She was the ring announcer, and I think got something wrong in his intro, so he decided to climb up and put his crotch in her face

Savio
08-12-2018, 12:05 AM
His name

GD
08-12-2018, 01:29 AM
Is that gif showing a man mount his real-life ex in a non-kayfabe moment?

It's former WWE Diva Search winner and a proud mother of quadruplets, Christy Hemme, who (mistakenly) announced Austin Aries as "Christopher Daniels". Austin being the gentleman that he is, decided to shove his crotch in her face.

Emperor Smeat
08-12-2018, 03:07 AM
Can anyone think of any strong finishes for heel wrestlers that clearly diminish the face they are fighting?

I'm just done watching Shawn Michaels Vs Tito Santana at Wrestlemania VIII and the finish makes Tito look awful. Like a naive nobody.
He hits his terrible forearm finisher and Shawn immediately rolls out of the ring so no fan believes he's in trouble and then when Tito pulls him back in he tries to scoop slam him in only for Shawn to hold the ropes, unbalance Tito and pin him for the strangest, least impactful 1-2-3 clean count I may ever have seen.

Fingerpoke of Doom even though it was just a gag by Hogan and co.

Droford
08-12-2018, 03:17 AM
So I'm just waiting for Orton to be fired. Any minute really.. There's no way he can survive sexual harassment allegations when no one else has

slik
08-12-2018, 03:28 AM
It's Orton.

He survives everything.

Bad News Gertner
08-12-2018, 06:20 AM
Oooo doggy. Who else really loves Women's wrestling? t's my go to when I'm looking to watch some hot mat action! Pretty pumped for the Women's only ppv

#1-norm-fan
08-12-2018, 11:47 AM
Can anyone think of any strong finishes for heel wrestlers that clearly diminish the face they are fighting?

I'm just done watching Shawn Michaels Vs Tito Santana at Wrestlemania VIII and the finish makes Tito look awful. Like a naive nobody.
He hits his terrible forearm finisher and Shawn immediately rolls out of the ring so no fan believes he's in trouble and then when Tito pulls him back in he tries to scoop slam him in only for Shawn to hold the ropes, unbalance Tito and pin him for the strangest, least impactful 1-2-3 clean count I may ever have seen.

Carmella's wins over Charlotte and Asuka are legit probably the worst examples of finishes needlessly putting a heel over strong and shitting all over the face that I've ever seen.

#1-norm-fan
08-12-2018, 11:51 AM
No way would he have more hype than AJ Styles......

Omega over the past year + has been a bigger deal than AJ was by far.

Lock Jaw
08-12-2018, 11:58 AM
Maybe to the hardcore NJPW fans, I don't know. To those of us who only vaguely hear about things about Japan but don't watch any of it, he is not as big a deal.

#1-norm-fan
08-12-2018, 12:00 PM
AJ was Mr. TNA and had a relatively short run in NJPW to get people talking about him again before jumping. Omega has been the biggest deal outside WWE during the hottest period for non-WWE wrestling in 17 years.

#1-norm-fan
08-12-2018, 12:06 PM
I mean, neither one is/was gonna cause a huge boost like someone jumping ship pre-2000s would have. We're just talking within the small scale of hardcores.

Simple Fan
08-12-2018, 12:39 PM
AJ was Mr. TNA and had a relatively short run in NJPW to get people talking about him again before jumping. Omega has been the biggest deal outside WWE during the hottest period for non-WWE wrestling in 17 years.

He was Mr. TNA when TNA was what NJPW is now but had the advantage of being in the United States. Kenny is great but I dont think he's at AJ's level of popularity in the states. Kenny would still get a huge reaction though if he showed up, just not as big as AJ in Orlando for the Royal Rumble big.

screech
08-12-2018, 12:52 PM
Way behind on NXT so I'm catching up today.

Kona Reeves is weird-looking.

DaveWadding
08-12-2018, 02:46 PM
Way behind on NXT so I'm catching up today.

Kona Reeves is weird-looking.

Super weird looking

Simple Fan
08-12-2018, 02:55 PM
I don't think it's just the name but his face resembles a young Keanu Reeves in my opinion. His body though is what's so weird, built similar to Big Cass and Punishment Martinez which are both clunky. Kona moves around better I think.

screech
08-12-2018, 03:22 PM
Was gonna do a "running commentary" but then I realized I had 7 episodes to watch. So much rasslin!

screech
08-12-2018, 03:23 PM
Also I'm a big fan of Ricochet. Didn't know who he was before he came to NXT. Dude can do some amazing things

#1-norm-fan
08-12-2018, 04:55 PM
He was Mr. TNA when TNA was what NJPW is now but had the advantage of being in the United States. Kenny is great but I dont think he's at AJ's level of popularity in the states. Kenny would still get a huge reaction though if he showed up, just not as big as AJ in Orlando for the Royal Rumble big.

The other thing is AJ spent most of his career in what was basically WWE-lite. It made it a little less of a culture shock seeing him in WWE. TNA obviously had more exposure in the US at a time but it wasn't exactly a beloved and revered company. If it were then we'd be putting Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, etc. in this discussion as well. AJ needed that ROH/NJPW run to bring himself back to relevance. In front of a similar smark crowd, I definitely think Omega making a surprise entrance in a WWE ring would get a monster reaction.

Wehttam
08-12-2018, 06:34 PM
poor gerard is reading his reps and still crying. really feel for him.

GD
08-12-2018, 07:23 PM
Way behind on NXT so I'm catching up today.

Kona Reeves is weird-looking.

Read that as Keanu Reeves and got confused for a moment.

Sepholio
08-12-2018, 08:47 PM
Also I'm a big fan of Ricochet. Didn't know who he was before he came to NXT. Dude can do some amazing things

Go watch Ricochet vs Will Ospreay. DO IT.

screech
08-12-2018, 09:02 PM
Read that as Keanu Reeves and got confused for a moment.

I mean, I guess it could still apply if he happened to be in the crowd

screech
08-12-2018, 09:02 PM
Go watch Ricochet vs Will Ospreay. DO IT.

On it!

DaveWadding
08-12-2018, 10:33 PM
Also I'm a big fan of Ricochet. Didn't know who he was before he came to NXT. Dude can do some amazing things

Go watch Ricochet vs Will Ospreay. DO IT.

On it!

He was also one of the main tecnicos on Lucha Underground as masked luchador Prince Puma. Seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix right now.

Tom Guycott
08-12-2018, 11:10 PM
Read that as Keanu Reeves and got confused for a moment.

Keanu Reeves vs Stephen Amell at ALL IN

SlickyTrickyDamon
08-12-2018, 11:17 PM
Whoa

Tom Guycott
08-13-2018, 12:46 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I purchased my daughter a <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> Raw <a href="https://twitter.com/Mattel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Mattel</a> ring for all of her action figures... but, apparently she thinks it’s actually for her to wrestle in. <br>��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEEliteSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEEliteSquad</a> <a href="https://t.co/Dkv7CDMn1f">pic.twitter.com/Dkv7CDMn1f</a></p>&mdash; Brian Myers (@TheCurtHawkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCurtHawkins/status/1026859759947980801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

NOOOOOOOOOOO!! SHE'S NOT KNOCKINGATHEDOOOOOORRRR! KICK IT DOWN!!!

Tom Guycott
08-13-2018, 01:05 AM
(Omega hits an opponent with a 'One-Winged Angel')

"Kenny w/ a reverse falcon arrow for the win"

- Michael Cole

In fairness, this goes back to him being micromanaged in his earpiece more than him actually sucking. See: "A Beast In The East" I still think he prob'ly got chewed out for that one Sasha Banks match where he actually called a Meteora instead of just saying "KNEES TO THE FACE!!!", because heaven forbid we actually call moves other than finishers during a broadcast.

Mr. Nerfect
08-13-2018, 04:46 AM
On AJ Styles vs. Kenny Omega:

* AJ was in the public consciousness for quite a while before jumping and had a back catalog of so many great matches. He was a "darling" since 2002, so everything had 14 years build, in a way.

* When AJ went to New Japan, it really put a lot of spotlight on New Japan with the western audience that wasn't really there before. His New Japan work sort of "refreshed" him from the TNA stank, and put his skill against TNA's shit booting and management and reminded people of why they loved Styles in the first place.

* Basically Omega's entire body of work has been in New Japan, and there is a less of a history of him contributing classics at this point. I think a more direct comparison would be to Prince Devitt, honestly.

Mr. Nerfect
08-13-2018, 06:06 AM
An underdeveloped thought I've had when trying to define this "non-era" we've been inhabiting for so long, and just when I think it started. They say stuff like "Ruthless Aggression" era and "New Era" era, but what is the true tenor of the times during this period?

That's why I'm going to pedal the term "Big Time era" defined by the period of time that Vince McMahon just didn't give a crap whether or not his product was on the pulse anymore. This is the period where the mission was Cena, Cena, Cena, because that guy that made the great impression in the opening match of WrestleMania XX was the guy to make an impression as the WWE tried to go "legit." 2003 saw HLA, CLBs and heel Rocks. It was still trying to chase something. 2004 was the first year they really promoted the event as being bigger than the talent. 2005 was really the last time that they thought something hot needed to happen to carry the show. And this is the last time that the WrestleMania shows were truly memorable. This is about the period of time you start forgetting who won Royal Rumbles. 2006 was the first year that you were getting John Cena whether you liked it or not, and 2006 was the year that the babyfaces walking out of the show with the belts were booed. Don't like Mark Henry? Too bad, he's in The Undertaker match. Aren't feeling Carlito & Chris Masters? They are your opening act.

Something about WrestleMania 22 just feels like it epitomizes where WWE was going to go. This is the show with Vince McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels, where Vince would end up challenging God. This is peak Vince McMahon boredom without him having any competition. There's not so much a violent shift as there is an incremental one. Plus, the theme song for WrestleMania 22 was "Big Time," which was released in 1986. It feels like something so random and arbitrary to promote the show, like "Great Balls of Fire" last year. This is the complete erratic departure from trying to find something that worked in the wake of the Attitude era and instead finding someone to hammer home until you get the brand more over than the performers.

Bad News Gertner
08-13-2018, 07:03 AM
Finally in December on my re-watch of all the 1984 WWF television. It's been a pretty fun experience watching the company evolve into what we see today.

Cool King
08-13-2018, 07:25 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39109205_1823376817750589_6132277833336094720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=718493b774ddc6a9df1f0b4f641fea97&oe=5BFA2242

Droford
08-13-2018, 10:35 AM
The 1000th episode of SD is going to be in Washington DC. Might have to go

Droford
08-13-2018, 10:55 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Mamma Mia but it's Mauro Ranallo �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mammamia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mammamia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/august13?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#august13</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wwe?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wwe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrestling?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wrestling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nxt?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#nxt</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/takeover?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#takeover</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mauroranallo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mauroranallo</a> <a href="https://t.co/p50ibyo3sG">pic.twitter.com/p50ibyo3sG</a></p>&mdash; The Heel Factor (@TheHeelFactor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHeelFactor/status/1028966237756375041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
08-13-2018, 11:00 AM
Bring back the Giant Fist!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: The historic 1,000th episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> will emanate from the <a href="https://twitter.com/CapitalOneArena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CapitalOneArena</a> in Washington, D.C., on Oct. 16 and air LIVE at 8/7c on <a href="https://twitter.com/USA_Network?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@USA_Network</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SD1000?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SD1000</a> <a href="https://t.co/yTWsNJ6b2x">https://t.co/yTWsNJ6b2x</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1029006919300796417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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slik
08-13-2018, 11:05 AM
100% chance SDLive 1000 will be better than RAW 25 was.

Lock Jaw
08-13-2018, 11:28 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Mamma Mia but it's Mauro Ranallo �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mammamia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mammamia</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/august13?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#august13</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wwe?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wwe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrestling?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wrestling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nxt?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#nxt</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/takeover?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#takeover</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mauroranallo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mauroranallo</a> <a href="https://t.co/p50ibyo3sG">pic.twitter.com/p50ibyo3sG</a></p>&mdash; The Heel Factor (@TheHeelFactor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHeelFactor/status/1028966237756375041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

oh no

Evil Vito
08-13-2018, 03:25 PM
Enzo Amore has retired because “nobody can afford to pay him to get in the ring again”

Lol

Gerard
08-13-2018, 03:42 PM
Enzo Amore has retired because “nobody can afford to pay him to get in the ring again”

Lol

More like he retired loaded as they paid him to keep him the fuck out of a ring. A brick wearing a singlet would be capable of more.

Swiss Ultimate
08-13-2018, 04:15 PM
Here...it's XL you fat fucks!

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Swiss Ultimate
08-13-2018, 04:17 PM
AJ was Mr. TNA and had a relatively short run in NJPW to get people talking about him again before jumping. Omega has been the biggest deal outside WWE during the hottest period for non-WWE wrestling in 17 years.

Them not making him and Samoa Joe the faces of the company permanently was so dumb.

Emperor Smeat
08-13-2018, 04:53 PM
Recent rumor that got debunked teased at Asuka walking out of this week's Smackdown and wanting out of the WWE due to being pissed at the direction of her career since getting called up. Got attributed to PWI which later turned out to be fake.

In an interesting twist, turns out there is a some truth to the rumor but not from Asuka's side. Observer's Meltzer recently talked to a few within the WWE and the current feeling there is they are fully aware her booking has been very terrible and she'd be in the right to do so had she actually walked out.

Evil Vito
08-13-2018, 04:59 PM
If Asuka walked out she'd wind up getting her contract frozen just like Neville who they are still holding hostage almost a year after he left.

owenbrown
08-13-2018, 05:01 PM
Maybe if they put the fucking title on her in the first place....

Innovator
08-13-2018, 05:10 PM
Maybe if they put the fucking title on her in the first place....

There was as much chance of that happening as Charlotte actually connecting with her moonsault

Bad News Gertner
08-13-2018, 05:51 PM
Maybe if they put the fucking title on her in the first place....

She's really not good enough

Savio
08-13-2018, 08:35 PM
"Brock has been the worst universal champion of all time"

Worse than Finn and Goldberg?

Droford
08-14-2018, 11:18 AM
Kevin Owens needed to jump on the "I'm the greatest Universal Champion of all time"

Big Vic
08-14-2018, 12:53 PM
During Reigns entrance:

"SummerSlam where the WWE Universe boo who they normally cheer and cheer who they normally boo, but it's all in good fun"

Swiss Ultimate
08-14-2018, 01:03 PM
"Brock has been the worst universal champion of all time"

Worse than Finn and Goldberg?

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Swiss Ultimate
08-14-2018, 01:05 PM
During Reigns entrance:

"SummerSlam where the WWE Universe boo who they normally cheer and cheer who they normally boo, but it's all in good fun"

I heard you like SummerSlam.

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Emperor Smeat
08-14-2018, 04:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dkh39xPVAAESSkX?format=jpg

GD
08-14-2018, 04:59 PM
Bring back the Giant Fist!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: The historic 1,000th episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> will emanate from the <a href="https://twitter.com/CapitalOneArena?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CapitalOneArena</a> in Washington, D.C., on Oct. 16 and air LIVE at 8/7c on <a href="https://twitter.com/USA_Network?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@USA_Network</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SD1000?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SD1000</a> <a href="https://t.co/yTWsNJ6b2x">https://t.co/yTWsNJ6b2x</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1029006919300796417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Bad News Gertner
08-14-2018, 07:31 PM
Here's a video of pre-WWF Elizabeth hosting ICW which was the promotion of Macho Man's dad.

mX5OtMNRJdw

Mr. Nerfect
08-14-2018, 07:56 PM
They seem to be really teasing Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle. It might be a fickle attempt to transfer Angle's love onto Roman Reigns, but do you think they really are planning the match? Or do you think they do something like Brock Lesnar (w/ Paul Heyman) vs. Bobby Lashley (w/ Kurt Angle)? Or some other surrogate for Angle?

Emperor Smeat
08-14-2018, 11:46 PM
Seems its possible Renee Young could be making more appearances for RAW's commentary within the near future

Supposedly the reason for Coachman's absence this week wasn't due to prior commitments with the Gold Network and instead he was doing some prep work related to the XFL's revival.

http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/08/14/real-reason-jonathan-coachman-reportedly-off-raw-week/

Evil Vito
08-15-2018, 12:00 AM
WrestleMania 26 is the earliest WrestleMania where all of the participants are still alive. Fuck.

Droford
08-15-2018, 12:33 AM
WrestleMania 26 is the earliest WrestleMania where all of the participants are still alive. Fuck.

Snuka and Piper at 25 almost shouldnt count

Tom Guycott
08-15-2018, 12:33 AM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39109205_1823376817750589_6132277833336094720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=718493b774ddc6a9df1f0b4f641fea97&oe=5BFA2242

"The African Dream" Chris Jericho

Jordan
08-15-2018, 08:14 AM
Seems its possible Renee Young could be making more appearances for RAW's commentary within the near future

Supposedly the reason for Coachman's absence this week wasn't due to prior commitments with the Gold Network and instead he was doing some prep work related to the XFL's revival.

http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/08/14/real-reason-jonathan-coachman-reportedly-off-raw-week/

Oh man, fingers crossed on this. Coach to XFL would be great for both companies.

slik
08-15-2018, 08:50 AM
I remember when Jonathan Coachman was the local sports anchor in the city I grew up in for the ABC affiliate and then he left to go work for WWE and it was very kanefusing to me because he wasn't very good as the sports anchor.

He was always emotionless and unenthusiastic, which is pretty much the same now.

Evil Vito
08-15-2018, 09:26 AM
Snuka and Piper at 25 almost shouldnt count

Snuka maybe. Piper was only 54 when he wrestled at WM25 and he still died pretty young.

Evil Vito
08-15-2018, 09:28 AM
Piper at WM25 was the same age Ric Flair was when he was facing Triple H for the title in 2003, and he still had several more years of a full time schedule left after that.

Flair is fucking incredible.

slik
08-15-2018, 11:50 AM
Has any tag team called up from NXT the last several years not been a colossal failure on the main roster?

I can't think of a single one that has succeeded since The Wyatt Family/Shield.

Anybody Thrilla
08-15-2018, 06:18 PM
The Canadian Stampede main event is so good.

Emperor Smeat
08-15-2018, 06:48 PM
Has any tag team called up from NXT the last several years not been a colossal failure on the main roster?

I can't think of a single one that has succeeded since The Wyatt Family/Shield.

I'd argue against the Wyatts being included mainly because every time they push Rowan and Harper as a team, it either never lasts and/or are not handled well.

Like their current run as a team has been the most successful in terms of gold but creatively, they have been pretty bland or boring considering the other options available for Smackdown.

All of it goes back to the view that Vince hates tag wrestling and treats it mostly as an afterthought instead of something that could help improve show quality.