"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently David Bixenspan managed to uncover new details from the Nancy Argentino case from over 30 years ago.

The first involves Vince McMahon talking with Argentino to have her drop all charges against Snuka from a domestic violence incident in January 1983 and the other being a secret memo between lawyers revealing issues with how her autopsy report was handled.

David Bixenspan at MEL Magazine has done a deep investigation into the story involving Nancy Argentino’s death in May 1983, which was the recent subject of an episode of Dark Side of the Ring ...

The first major incident between Snuka and Argentino occurred on January 18, 1983, at the Howard Johnson Motor Lodge in Onondaga County in Syracuse, New York. After complaints from a nearby room, the motel manager Thomas Donovan finally contacted police to investigate what was going on between the two. Bixenspan poured through statements and affidavits from the authorities assigned to the case that night stating they witnessed physical abuse by Snuka, including grabbing Argentino by the hair and dragging her against the wall. Deputy Lawrence Witter assessed her injuries from the attack included a bruised right thumb, a contusion to the neck, possible fractured ribs, and a lower back injury.

Argentino initially signed a release to share her medical records with the Sherriff’s department but the following day stated she wasn’t seeking prosecution and said she was never struck or intentionally harmed by Snuka. The MEL Magazine story investigates the possible reasons for this change in her response and discovered a file from the New York case summarizing a phone interview with Detective Gerald Procanyn with Sgt. Peter Bronstad (who was struck by Snuka at the motor lodge) and Deputy Alex Romanenko. In the summary, it states that ‘Vince McMahon tried to talk her out of making the complaint against Snuka’. WWE was contacted for a response to the MEL Magazine feature and did not respond.

The final portion is dedicated to the autopsy report after Argentino’s death in May 1983 conducted by Lehigh County Medical Examiner Dr. Isidore Mihalikis. This was key to the case being revisited as the Allentown Morning Call obtained the autopsy report for their 2013. It was obtained through the documents presented in the 1985 civil case filed by the Argentino family against Snuka for the wrongful death of Nancy and resulted in a $500,000 judgment levied and never paid.

In a memo between two lawyers outlining the contents of the autopsy report, one lawyer (only identified by the initials ‘DNZ’ and addressed to ‘’SRW’) outlines a conversation with Lehigh County District Attorney William Platt. In the memo, it states an autopsy report was never transcribed but the details were communicated orally. Platt conveyed that the death was consistent with a single fall with medical examiner not finding any ‘bruises, lacerations, or other indications of a beating or prior injuries’, adding that the cause of death would have been termed ‘accidental’ if a formal autopsy was prepared. When the actual autopsy report came out in 2013, it did not reflect the descriptions in the memo were numerous cuts and lacerations and stated in the report that

In view of the autopsy findings and the discrepancies in clinical history, I believe that the case should be investigated as a homicide until proven otherwise.

Link: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/jimmy-snuka-girlfriend-nancy-argentino-death

[Gerard]

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Deffo on the gear here, he's called the British Bulldog because he can wrestle american style, german style, strongman style and mexican style....:wtf:

[owenbrown]

Here ya go


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Haha Cornette was talking about that on the Drive Thru this weeks. I meant to watch it but forgot. Lol what a bump that guy takes

obvious plant or actual fan? :-\

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H wasn't even good for all of 2000. He was about done SummerSlam time. Kurt Angle should have gone with Stephanie and been the new top heel, but Trips had to spray his stink everywhere. Rock vs. Chris Benoit drew as much as the Iron Man Match that year. Triple H's importance is way overblown. He could disappear from history and no one would give a flying fuck.

[Seanny One Ball]

Deffo on the gear here, he's called the British Bulldog because he can wrestle american style, german style, strongman style and mexican style....:wtf:


Ahahahahaha

[Bad News Gertner]

obvious plant or actual fan? :-\

Actual

[Maluco]

Pretty damning re: Triple H in the last page. I fall somewhere in between. I think he was good enough to be a top guy, but his behavior (only a few stories of many on this page) have ruined his legacy and meant he will never have the chance to prove what he could have been without all the help and excess.

Ironically, one of his greatest victims in Booker T, showed what he could do, both in WCW and WWE without really having the machine behind him. He had far more natural talent and charisma than Triple H and got his achievements on merit, something Trips will never really be able to say.

[Emperor Smeat]

One of the worst professional wrestlers ever featured on the Bryan and Vinny Show displays exactly why he's developed such a brutal reputation for non-excellence. From the Bryan & Vinny Show, April 14th, 2019, and NWA World Championship Wrestling, August 6th, 1988.

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[Droford]

Its pretty crazy there's only been 4 raw womens champions in 25 months (Nia, Alexa, Ronda and Becky)

There's been 5 WWE Champions, 9 Universal Champions, 10 Smackdown Womens champions, 11 IC Champions, and 13 US Champions in the same 25 month span

[Lock Jaw]

Not too crazy.

[GD]

I wish WWE would upload newer entrance themes...waiting for Io Shirai's for way too long.

Damn you @CFO$

[Droford]

Most Everyone seems to be digging the crowd less UFC fights, weird how Wrestling doesn't come off the same way.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pretty damning re: Triple H in the last page. I fall somewhere in between. I think he was good enough to be a top guy, but his behavior (only a few stories of many on this page) have ruined his legacy and meant he will never have the chance to prove what he could have been without all the help and excess.

Ironically, one of his greatest victims in Booker T, showed what he could do, both in WCW and WWE without really having the machine behind him. He had far more natural talent and charisma than Triple H and got his achievements on merit, something Trips will never really be able to say.

Eh, I don't think Triple H would have a legacy if he wasn't cutting down everyone else around him all the time.

[Volare]

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[James Steele]

Neither would Shawn Michaels, but he’s still the greatest of all time.

[Volare]

Also, you can feel this tension for next weeks highly anticipated match up!!

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[drave]

Most Everyone seems to be digging the crowd less UFC fights, weird how Wrestling doesn't come off the same way.




Eh, don't really need//have chants outside of a few lingering chants in MMA. The audience makes part of wrasslin what it is IMO.


Two dudes ACTUALLY beating the shit out of each other is usually good enough for people to NOT chant and just watch wtf is happening.

[drave]

I wish WWE would upload newer entrance themes...waiting for Io Shirai's for way too long.

Damn you @CFO$




Quite sure they were future endeavored a while back. Or they left. Either way, CFO$ is no longer a part of WWE if I recall.

[Bad News Gertner]

Neither would Shawn Michaels, but he’s still the greatest of all time.

Yeah but Shawn was actually good

[GD]

Quite sure they were future endeavored a while back. Or they left. Either way, CFO$ is no longer a part of WWE if I recall.

Yeah! They had a spat with their label and shit was never the same.

[drave]

To me, it was half-ass shit anyway. Like, the carnie of entrance composers.


Most of the shit was, hey let's make a 30 second song and loop it a few times to make a "track". A lot of their stuff sounded pretty good (Shinsuke, obv), but felt like there could have been so much more.

[drave]

And NXT Asuka ofc

[drave]

shit is still fucking epic
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[GD]

To me, it was half-ass shit anyway. Like, the carnie of entrance composers.


Most of the shit was, hey let's make a 30 second song and loop it a few times to make a "track". A lot of their stuff sounded pretty good (Shinsuke, obv), but felt like there could have been so much more.

Yeah...I kinda like that most of Johnston's creations were full length songs.

[GD]

Wasn't aware that a lot of their creations were inspired

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[GD]

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[Gerard]

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Just a brilliant part of his speech, rhyming all that off. :)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Neither would Shawn Michaels, but he’s still the greatest of all time.

I don't consider Shawn the greatest of all-time, but he is better than Triple H at every single thing. Shawn was a pain in the ass, but his talent warranted that spot. Triple H had a few good months when they were desperate for heels.

[Emperor Smeat]

Quite sure they were future endeavored a while back. Or they left. Either way, CFO$ is no longer a part of WWE if I recall.

Supposedly a dispute between them and their record label was the reason they left. WWE had a chance to buy them out of their deal with their label but their label refused in the end.

WWE supposedly also had other issues with their music department at the time which is why they started leaning a lot more towards royalty free music for new themes.

[slik]

FOX has confirmed it's fall schedule.

SD will air on Fridays and an episode of Masterchef Junior will be WWE-themed to help cross-promote WWE.

[Gerard]

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Meng gets planted head first, then Jimmy Hart follows suit.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Elias looks a lot like Roman Reigns from behind. Now I realize it is because of his resemblance to his half-brother, Drew McIntyre. Who also apparently fucked his mom and made Neville.

[Volare]

Holy shit at Sammy's back.

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[Anybody Thrilla]

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This is kinda hilarious

[slik]

Holy shit at Sammy's back.

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ouch @ back

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are small rings and then there's this. <a href="https://t.co/mkuzULGiVZ">pic.twitter.com/mkuzULGiVZ</a></p>&mdash; Cerebral Vigilante (@Delisketo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Delisketo/status/1260227068719226880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pulling off a Battle Royal in that ring would probably be an entertaining train wreck of a spectacle.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are small rings and then there's this. <a href="https://t.co/mkuzULGiVZ">pic.twitter.com/mkuzULGiVZ</a></p>&mdash; Cerebral Vigilante (@Delisketo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Delisketo/status/1260227068719226880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pulling off a Battle Royal in that ring would probably be an entertaining train wreck of a spectacle.

It looks like a normal sized square ring cut in half and made into a rectangle

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are small rings and then there's this. <a href="https://t.co/mkuzULGiVZ">pic.twitter.com/mkuzULGiVZ</a></p>&mdash; Cerebral Vigilante (@Delisketo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Delisketo/status/1260227068719226880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pulling off a Battle Royal in that ring would probably be an entertaining train wreck of a spectacle.

What is this for

[Emperor Smeat]

Team Kickboxing according to the person who posted the photo.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's a dangerous shape, nowhere near enough foot space.
Someone's going to get hurt.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'll bet someone goes through the ropes every twenty seconds

[slik]

Interesting...

https://i.postimg.cc/g2fVwRkv/Screenshot-2020-05-12-at-8-10-56-PM.png

[James Steele]

I love Sammy Guevara. I feel like if they really slow burn it and milk it for a couple of years, him turning face and fighting Jericho would be $$$ and he’d be a huge draw for AEW.

[Emperor Smeat]

That's a dangerous shape, nowhere near enough foot space.
Someone's going to get hurt.

Apparently its a new sport that was created in Russia and looks like this during matches.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/NINTCHDBPICT000560027259.jpg

Despite the team aspect, its just one-on-one fights done in a fencing-like format.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/354874/inside-the-brutal-new-sport-taking-russia-by-storm-where-fighters-brawl-in-spartan-inspired-kickboxing-duels/

[Volare]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Interesting...

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Supposedly this has already been happening on the streaming aspect of deals. Meltzer reported a few weeks ago that sports streaming provider DAZN started withholding their payouts to sports leagues and MMA due to their declining finances and games/events being cancelled.

[Tom Guycott]

shit is still fucking epic
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"He just has that intangible physical charisma. When you see him, you want to see more of him; you just don't want to look away." -JR

[Tom Guycott]

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Elias looks a lot like Roman Reigns from behind. Now I realize it is because of his resemblance to his half-brother, Drew McIntyre. Who also apparently fucked his mom and made Neville.

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[Sepholio]

WWE stripped Sami Zayn of the IC title. A tournament has been announced to crown a new champion and will begin on Smackdown this Friday. No word on who is in it or how big the field will be yet.

[XL]

I like a tournament. Put it on Nakamura or Cesaro, instant storyline when Sami returns. Sami should be protesting though; Devlin didn’t get stripped of his belt.

[GD]

I like a tournament. Put it on Nakamura or Cesaro, instant storyline when Sami returns. Sami should be protesting though; Devlin didn’t get stripped of his belt.

NXT is on an island of its own. Like Smeat said, Tozawa is a jobber on RAW and undefeated in NXT's tournament to crown an interim Cruiserweight Champion.

[XL]

An island on its own...until Survivor Series when they’re battling for “Brand Supremacy”.

[Volare]

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[Volare]

Also..just watch for the first minute...Cesaro lost last week and well..this was the result...

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[Emperor Smeat]

NX and AEW's ratings for this week's shows might struggle a bit more than usual due to the return of UFC Fight Night on ESPN's streaming service starting at 9PM tonight.

Might affect AEW more since UFC's average viewership age leans more towards their age range than WWE and NXT.

[Emperor Smeat]

PWI PODCAST 05/12/20: AUTHOR OF THE ANDRE THE GIANT BOOK PAT LAPRADE

Pat Laprade talking about Andre not wanting to retire from the ring: "The only place where Andre felt like a normal human being was in the wrestling locker room. That's the only place where he wasn't looked at as a freak or a giant. People wouldn't point fingers at him. They wouldn't laugh at him or be scared of him like reactions he was getting in the real world. That's why he had some hard feelings against Vince Jr because when Vince decided to go national and to have him exclusive, Andre couldn’t go see all of his friends like he used to. Yes, he was still traveling but it was the same locker room over and over again. When he was booked by Vince Sr, he would go from territory to territory and see different people and see different friends. That's what he like so much. That's also why Andre never wanted to quit. When Vince finally decided not to use him anymore, Andre didn't like that and he reacted in a way that, maybe he shouldn't. He went to Clash of Champions in 1992. When look at, it should have been a no-no. Andre going to a WCW PPV doesn't make any sense when you think of it. But, Andre was really frustrated that Vince wasn't going to use him anymore. At the same time, we can't blame Vince for that. Andre couldn't let it go. It wasn't about the money at all. Andre had money. It was that if he wasn't in a wrestling locker room, he didn't know what to do. That's why he kept a way to keep wrestling in Japan and Mexico. Even in Japan, he was so well respected that when he started working for All Japan after working for years for Inoki and New Japan, it was New Japan who told All Japan that the way we do wrestling now is not suited anymore for Andre, but I think he can still be useful for All Japan because All Japan always did one comedy match or one with old timers." ...

Laprade mentioning why Andre was billed as 7 feet 4 inches: "Lou Alcindor, who later became Kareem Abdul-Jabaar started becoming this big NBA star and won the championship with the Milwaukee Bucks. The Vachons were working a lot for Verne (Gagne) at the time. Milwaukee was one of the main towns they were being booked at. Both Vachons were watching a lot of news and interest in other stuff. They knew about Lou Alcindor and that he was 7' 2" and was the tallest athlete at the time. When the media and Andre came, it was only normal to make Andre the tallest athlete of his era. Like Paul Vachon told us, 7 feet 4 sounded right. We could not have said he was 7 feet 9. In reality, our count was at one point he was a real 7 footer.
From a recent episode of PWI's podcast show with the author of the new Andre the Giant biography that had a few tidbits I found interesting.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems Rachael Ellering was among those in NXT and the PC that were quietly released by WWE based on a recent tweet teasing her return to the indies.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We know who we are, who we’ll always be and we have a choice: we can hide in the shadows or stand in the light <a href="https://t.co/DKpF7rafka">pic.twitter.com/DKpF7rafka</a></p>&mdash; Rachael Ellering (@RachaelEversWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/RachaelEversWWE/status/1260707246239027201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Have the finals of the IC Title tournament come down to Cesaro and Chad Gable.

[GD]

50k piles of steaming hot garbage.

[BigCrippyZ]

Have the finals of the IC Title tournament come down to Cesaro and Chad Gable.

Why fucking bother? None of it, or any of the stupid bullshit, will remotely fucking matter.

[GD]

Have the finals of the IC Title tournament come down to Cesaro and Chad Gable.

Might as well call Cesaro "Claudio Castagnoli" if you're going to call Shorty G "Chad Gable".

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What I’ve learned from sources on SummerSlam. <br><br>- WWE wants to remain as is, city of Boston has made it clear that’s not likely<br>- WWE is activity hunting for a new location w/ fans<br>- Keep an eye on the South, FL &amp; GA. <br>- Date MAY be pushed into September<br>- No word on TakeOver</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1260609169163456515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Who the fuck cares about Chad Gable? Why would he be pushed at this point?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why fucking bother? None of it, or any of the stupid bullshit, will remotely fucking matter.

Are you talking about WWE or AEW here? Unclear. At least Cesaro and Chad Gable would have a properly good match and not just get snowflakes from Dave. You get the victories where you can get them in Zombie Wrestling.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What I’ve learned from sources on SummerSlam. <br><br>- WWE wants to remain as is, city of Boston has made it clear that’s not likely<br>- WWE is activity hunting for a new location w/ fans<br>- Keep an eye on the South, FL &amp; GA. <br>- Date MAY be pushed into September<br>- No word on TakeOver</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1260609169163456515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Summerslam in the fall..lol

[Droford]

They finally brought back In Your House lol

[BigCrippyZ]

Are you talking about WWE or AEW here? Unclear. At least Cesaro and Chad Gable would have a properly good match and not just get snowflakes from Dave. You get the victories where you can get them in Zombie Wrestling.

Are you implying or assuming that a "properly good match" is one that is on TV but is also entirely scripted (almost the same as others) move for move and/or segment for segment?

If so, I can almost guarantee you that WWE contractually makes their talent agree that "99% or more" of the time (IF the talent can even remotely dispute and/or keep track), of what happens to their "character" and worse when factoring in live events and "PPV"s, i.e., not just what happens on TV. AEW has no such contractual arrangements despite actually paying closer and/or equal salaries and better benefits.

Most talent has been previously so desperate to take what "big" guaranteed amount they can get from WWE, and outside of the sheer total guaranteed money WWE has been previously offering, plenty of folks would have otherwise left for other places for the creative freedoms and/or other benefits/guarantees.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Are you implying or assuming that a "properly good match" is one that is on TV but is also entirely scripted (almost the same as others) move for move and/or segment for segment?

If so, I can almost guarantee you that WWE contractually makes their talent agree to that "99% or more" of the time (IF the talent can even remotely keep track), and worse when factoring in live events and "PPV"s, i.e., not just what happens on TV. AEW has no such contractual arrangements despite actually paying closer and/or equal salaries and better benefits.

Most talent has been previously so desperate to take what "big" guaranteed amount they can get from WWE, and outside of the sheer total guaranteed money WWE has been previously offering, plenty of folks would have otherwise left for other places for the creative freedoms and/or other benefits/guarantees.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you drunk?

Do you think WWE plots out their matches move-by-move? Nobody's got time for that. Routine matches are the norm in wrestling these days, because talent all works the same. That's on the talent. It's why AEW hasn't exactly had stellar ring work either.

I mean, I haven't been there myself, but I'm sure it's pretty well accepted that WWE actually don't do what you're saying they do. Are you actually suggesting they plan out the matches really thoroughly? Lol, what do you think the talent does in AEW? Call shit in the ring? Who is even good enough to do that?

The ship sailed on AEW being a better place to work. Most good talent/stars signed back up with WWE when they saw that AEW opened with a Casino Battle Royal for a World Title shot in the main event of their next real PPV, which featured Glacier freezing someone with ice powers. Creative freedom =/= good. Matt Hardy proves that. Almost all of AEW proves that. There are maybe two or three guys that understand why they are doing what they are doing there. They've capped themselves in terms of viewership, so even the stars they do have/could have coming up their ranks are probably going to jump to the WWE when their deals are up or sooner. It's the difference between being watched by <1 million people and >2 million people. And because they sharted on the rights fees, it's not like Shad Khan is guaranteed to pony up.

All the potential of AEW was huff and puff. They've delivered on basically none of their promises. It's not sports-based. It's not the Ellis Island of professional wrestling. It doesn't get away from WWE tropes. Did they even end up giving their talent benefits? It's just riding a "Not WWE" wave.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't believe people in one breath say "nothing WWE does matters," then on the other hand have AEW which chop and change their storylines just as much, and are even less consequential or influential than the WWE, but they're cool. It's just fucking bonkers.

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW is the Broken Matt Hardy of wrestling promotions. People say it is "brilliant" just because it is different, when it's actually the drizzling shits.

And it's not even different. They just tell themselves it is.

[BigCrippyZ]

What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you drunk?

Do you think WWE plots out their matches move-by-move? Nobody's got time for that. Routine matches are the norm in wrestling these days, because talent all works the same. That's on the talent. It's why AEW hasn't exactly had stellar ring work either.

I mean, I haven't been there myself, but I'm sure it's pretty well accepted that WWE actually don't do what you're saying they do. Are you actually suggesting they plan out the matches really thoroughly? Lol, what do you think the talent does in AEW? Call shit in the ring? Who is even good enough to do that?

The ship sailed on AEW being a better place to work. Most good talent/stars signed back up with WWE when they saw that AEW opened with a Casino Battle Royal for a World Title shot in the main event of their next real PPV, which featured Glacier freezing someone with ice powers. Creative freedom =/= good. Matt Hardy proves that. Almost all of AEW proves that. There are maybe two or three guys that understand why they are doing what they are doing there. They've capped themselves in terms of viewership, so even the stars they do have/could have coming up their ranks are probably going to jump to the WWE when their deals are up or sooner. It's the difference between being watched by <1 million people and >2 million people. And because they sharted on the rights fees, it's not like Shad Khan is guaranteed to pony up.

All the potential of AEW was huff and puff. They've delivered on basically none of their promises. It's not sports-based. It's not the Ellis Island of professional wrestling. It doesn't get away from WWE tropes. Did they even end up giving their talent benefits? It's just riding a "Not WWE" wave.

I'm not saying AEW is superior overall necessarily or not. That's subjective to each individual, viewer and talent.

What I am saying is that yes, anything that appears on TV and PPV, and even a "majority" of the so-called "big talent" live event matches, are planned almost move for move, but not necessarily "rehearsed".

It's not remotely as hard or time consuming if there are systems in place and you're trained to do it from the beginning. The fact that most people don't know this is ridiculously pathetic. The fact that you don't and/or can't believe this shows, not only, 1. how little you know about what actually happens (pure systematization due to effectiveness) in any major company, let alone an entertainment or any major company, but 2. how little you actually know about the details of how WWE's creative process works.

That obviously, doesn't mean that EVERY match, and certainly not every TV/PPV match and/or appearance is identical, scripted, and/or things don't sometimes go "off script" when needed of course. However, more often than not, if it's makes it to the public at large (appears on Raw, SD, NXT, "PPV", YouTube, etc.), everything they do is by design and often rehearsed at least one or more times.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm not saying AEW is superior overall necessarily or not. That's subjective to each individual, viewer and talent.

What I am saying is that yes, anything that appears on TV and PPV, and even a "majority" of the so-called "big talent" live event matches, are planned almost move for move, but not necessarily "rehearsed".

It's not remotely as hard or time consuming if there are systems in place and you're trained to do it from the beginning. The fact that most people don't know this is ridiculously pathetic. The fact that you don't and/or can't believe this shows, not only, 1. how little you know about what actually happens (pure systematization due to effectiveness) in any major company, let alone an entertainment or any major company, but 2. how little you actually know about the details of how WWE's creative process works.

That obviously, doesn't mean that EVERY match, and certainly not every TV/PPV match and/or appearance is identical, scripted, and/or things don't sometimes go "off script" when needed of course. However, more often than not, if it's makes it to the public at large (appears on Raw, SD, NXT, "PPV", YouTube, etc.), everything they do is by design and often rehearsed at least one or more times.

Lol, that's absolute horse-shit and you know it.

I mean, not only is that not what actually happens, but it's also not the most efficient way of doing things. Why waste energy rehearsing shit when you can just go over shit with an agent and no one has to generate a fucking template for you?

Is criticism of AEW this effective in knocking you completely out of reality?

[Black Widow]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Thank God for black widow changing the subject

[Seanny One Ball]

On this week's Jim Ross podcast "Dr. Death Steve Williams" JR mentions Kareem Abdul Jabbar, says his name several times and then very nearly accidentally calls him "Muhammad".

You can hear the wheels turning as he thinks "It's something Islamic".
Was very funny.

[Lock Jaw]

At least he didn't call him Kazaam

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com/IMbMy0p.gif

[Seanny One Ball]

At least he didn't call him Kazaam


Because basketball?

I knew you were Ghana burn out after over achieving yesterday.

[Lock Jaw]

My mind was more "because of K, and two vowels followed by an M", did not even think of basketball connection

[Lock Jaw]

https://i.imgur.com/IMbMy0p.gif

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[ClockShot]

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Reminds me of Guy's entrance in the Street Fighter games.

Flies in kicking the barrels. But instead, it's O.C's head.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Choose Only 1 <br><br>Vader’s Powerbomb <br><br> or<br><br>Sid’s Powerbomb <a href="https://t.co/m57gbCtGky">pic.twitter.com/m57gbCtGky</a></p>&mdash; GrappleClips (@GrappleClips) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrappleClips/status/1260932313233293312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'd go with Sid's as my choice.

Vader had some nice looking brutal ones in that clip but Sid's looked more crisper or smoother.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Making us choose between the Masters of the Powerbomb hurts my soul. ��<br><br>They both were God tier! Especially that year! <a href="https://t.co/LPEmgmJgeD">pic.twitter.com/LPEmgmJgeD</a></p>&mdash; Big Willie-isms | Now Live! �� (@bigwillieisms) <a href="https://twitter.com/bigwillieisms/status/1260962462511386630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


YOOOOOOOO when did this happen? This looks incredible!

[Seanny One Ball]

Sid's was better by a country mile because he wasn't constantly folding guys by the neck and shoulders.
Vader was a bloody idiot doing that to people.

[Seanny One Ball]

Bradshaw had a better powerbomb than both of them, lovely and flat. It probably felt so smooth in comparison.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

When Sid dropped to knee, his powerbomb was the best. Vader looks like he's killing people.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bradshaw had a better powerbomb than both of them, lovely and flat. It probably felt so smooth in comparison.

I'd put Scott Norton's powerbomb over Bradshaw and the other two as well.

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[RP]

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I woulda stopped the match to suck on my fingers after that.

[Jordan]

I woulda stopped the match to suck on my fingers after that.

I never expected to get so horny on the wrestling forum! Hot stuff RP what else would you do?

[Seanny One Ball]

:wtf:

[Jordan]

:shifty:

[Seanny One Ball]

You drink too much pop

[Volare]

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[Seanny One Ball]

I mean that's just quality patter

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If Jim can just chill the fuck out and be cool that could be fun.

[Vastardikai]

Janella is trash

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He does suck but Cornette could actually play along.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A request 9 years in the making...<a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMPunk</a> FINALLY got his <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> ice cream bars! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEBackstage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEBackstage</a> <a href="https://t.co/9sU8diZpNP">pic.twitter.com/9sU8diZpNP</a></p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1260420057357856770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

He does suck but Cornette could actually play along.


Yeah, thing is at this stage Cornette playing along would be him trashing Janella again.

Real Heel

[Mr. Nerfect]

Janela is a fucking moron. None of these dudes actually have any good comebacks or witticisms. Joey Ryan is the fucking worst. But Kenny King was awful back when they had their thing too. Cornette roasts them all. Guys can't even promo over Twitter.

[Bad News Gertner]

Can you fucking imagine at the amount of crowd heat Cornette would get if he showed up in AEW. I would definitely watch.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'd give him a month to maybe 1 PPV cycle before he got fired because he couldn't avoid doing and/or saying something extremely stupid or controversial.

[Gerard]

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Who was it sampling the fish patte? :wtf:

[Bad News Gertner]

I'd give him a month to maybe 1 PPV cycle before he got fired because he couldn't avoid doing and/or saying something extremely stupid or controversial.

That would be a hell of a month

[slik]

The entire Lucha Undeground series is now free to watch online at Tubi


https://tubitv.com/series/4047/lucha_underground

[XL]

Not available in the UK :'(

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd give him a month to maybe 1 PPV cycle before he got fired because he couldn't avoid doing and/or saying something extremely stupid or controversial.

Outside of the admittedly poorly aimed joke at starving people -- what has Cornette actually done or said that was controversial while working with a wrestling company?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I used to think the issue with Cornette in AEW is that he would have to kayfabe it up, which means selling guys like Omega and The Bucks. He can't tell the truth about them the whole way, because it completely buries them. But then I heard his promo from Jake's perspective on his podcast this week, haha.

For those who missed it, he basically demonstrated how Jake could cut a promo that gets Lance Archer over instead of Jake over. He managed to take aim at Kenny and The Bucks in it by heeling on Cody and how he thought he could rule the roost in AEW, because he went into business with two goofballs and a clueless guy he has got no problem being a bigger star than.

It took shots at The Bucks and Omega while staying in character and being a great heel. It also went over to actually put Lance Archer over as the man in Brandi's head that she's imagining while she's in Cody's bed. Fucking amazing.

[XL]

Outside of the admittedly poorly aimed joke at starving people -- what has Cornette actually done or said that was controversial while working with a wrestling company?

In May 2005, Cornette was suspended for several weeks by WWE after slapping OVW developmental wrestler Anthony Carelli backstage after Carelli had "no-sold" fellow wrestler The Boogeyman by laughing at him during a live OVW event. Shortly after Cornette returned from his suspension, a separate incident occurred and the WWE released him from his contract in July 2005.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's two times in 30 years or whatever. He's due for another one in 2034.

[XL]

Yeah man, you didn’t put any perameters on it.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Olympic medalist <a href="https://twitter.com/AnthonyOgogo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AnthonyOgogo</a> recounts the advice <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> gave him about his future <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> debut and reveals the promotion were planning a show for Wembley Arena in June prior to the COVID-19 Lockdown.<br><br>Watch the whole interview on my IGTV HERE: <a href="https://t.co/w9HlcGFsOQ">https://t.co/w9HlcGFsOQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/QAoJh7S1un">pic.twitter.com/QAoJh7S1un</a></p>&mdash; Donagh Corby (@DonaghCorby_) <a href="https://twitter.com/DonaghCorby_/status/1261425039460782082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Volare]

Nothing else matters anymore....

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah man, you didn’t put any perameters on it.

Oh yeah, I’m not saying you’re wrong or anything. People just constantly go way out there with Corny and act like he’s been fired from every job he’s ever had. He walked away from WCW, took a step back from the WWF to work in OVW, left Global Force, quit ROH and actually quit the NWA too.

Maybe it’s because he’s so direct and passionate, or that he doesn’t mince words, but I can’t think of many people in wrestling, at least, that have more misinformation out there about them. There are people who think he’s actually a conservative and shit. It’s crazy.

[Vastardikai]

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I am pretty sure this is Memphis. But Eddie Gilbert knows that you don't always have to be a blatant puppy kicking dickhead to get heat. Making the women open the door for him? That is just a subtle assholery that most outside of that region wouldn't get. He was the world's shortest Chad, 30 years before the Incel mindset was a thing.

[Black Widow]

Who was it sampling the fish patte? :wtf:

You can't tell who either are?

[GD]

When did they rename the United Kingdom Championship?

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/wwe_16_9_l/public/all/2020/01/WWE_UK_Championship_Belt--b3a1d48e34e1a2d6571fc8d81138eb94.png

[Emperor Smeat]

Around this past January and as part of WWE's overall process to put 205 Live and NXT UK under the NXT banner instead of being their own independent brands.

[GD]

Ah, I was only aware of the Cruiserweight Championship :y:

Did they ever retrieve WALTER's lost championship?

[Emperor Smeat]

Don't think so.

Wouldn't really matter for tv since that theft happened before he got the current design belt.

[GD]

Don't think so.

Wouldn't really matter for tv since that theft happened before he got the current design belt.

Fair enough. I guess they could've retired it in the warehouse.

[Jordan]

Listening to Martha Hart on TIJ. Wow.

The Hart House needs to be a movie or a TV series. Amazing stories there. RIP Owen.

[Jordan]

I wouldn't be suprised if when Martha says Owen "applied year after year" to be a firefighter and then a customs agent ... LOL

No way.

That may be what he sold her on though! He was destined to be in the ring LOL. He probably told her since he was a kid he didn't want to be in the buisness cause thats what she probably wanted to hear!

[slik]

Does Lio Rush ever stop whining?

Not sure who he expects to hire him, he had a bad rep before the 'E and now he can't even get along with Mark Henry, one of the most respected wrestlers in WWE.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Couldn’t i just do the same for publicly de framing my name on national radio? <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMarkHenry?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMarkHenry</a> come on man, your going out sad. You deserve to be remembered for the greatest heel turn ever, not for threatening to sue a 25 yr old in the middle of a pandemic.</p>&mdash; �� Ever After OUT NOW! (@itsLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsLioRush/status/1262011191507013633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

What’s the story there?

[XL]

Never mind, I looked it up.

[slik]

He accused Mark Henry of holding back black talent in WWE, Mark responded saying that was defamatory and he could sue Lio if he wanted but he thinks Lio is just trying to get attention for his music career.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

De framing. That idiot.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently WWE had a huge storyline planned that would have been the big post-Mania storyline for this year.

According to WrestleVotes, would have been on the same level as the Vince McMahon limo explosion or Nexus debut storylines in terms of importance.

WWE reportedly had a major storyline planned for this spring and summer, but things were nixed due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Officials came up with a lengthy major storyline that was to unfold over the span of several weeks during the spring and summer of this year, according to @Wrestlevotes. It was noted that the storyline was to play out similar to how the Vince McMahon limousine explosion or the Nexus invasion debut did.

The storyline was put on hold due to COVID-19 forcing WWE to tape TV shows on closed sets with no fans. Crowd reactions play a major part when it comes to the direction of WWE's matches and storylines, and this was key in the decision to put the storyline on hold.

[Danny Electric]

Could only be one thing , the return of Tatanka.

[Vastardikai]

Pierre was going to make his WWE return... as PCO.

[Black Widow]

Does Lio Rush ever stop whining?

Not sure who he expects to hire him, he had a bad rep before the 'E and now he can't even get along with Mark Henry, one of the most respected wrestlers in WWE.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Couldn’t i just do the same for publicly de framing my name on national radio? <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMarkHenry?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMarkHenry</a> come on man, your going out sad. You deserve to be remembered for the greatest heel turn ever, not for threatening to sue a 25 yr old in the middle of a pandemic.</p>&mdash; �� Ever After OUT NOW! (@itsLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsLioRush/status/1262011191507013633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Why didn't this toothpick feel the need to be this vocal about Henry when he was still there?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He was complaining about other things.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEBigE</a> calls in to Busted Open with <a href="https://twitter.com/davidlagreca1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davidlagreca1</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMarkHenry?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMarkHenry</a> to further profess his love to <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BeckyLynchWWE</a>'s mother, becoming <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Becky2Belts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Becky2Belts</a> step father, and channeling his inner &quot;Sexual Chocolate&quot;. <a href="https://t.co/EbGnfaHvWd">pic.twitter.com/EbGnfaHvWd</a></p>&mdash; SiriusXM Busted Open (@BustedOpenRadio) <a href="https://twitter.com/BustedOpenRadio/status/1126906008272605186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Big E gonna be a grandfather lol

[Volare]

Why do I have a feeling Big E is gonna come out of the New Day, with an acting career?

[Volare]

And this fucking guy just goes on n on n on n on.....

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[Bad News Gertner]

Very sad news today. 411mania founder Larry Csonka passed away this morning. I used to write for Larry. Very nice guy.

[Evil Vito]

His last tweet 18 hours ago said he felt shitty and tired all day :( sad

[Bad News Gertner]

He had his leg amputated like about a year ago. He injured it and it became septic. Really fucked up. I was actually talking to someone from the site a couple of weeks ago about possibly starting up my column again since I have more time on my hands. I just had to talk to Larry about it. Never got around to it :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

Very sad news today. 411mania founder Larry Csonka passed away this morning. I used to write for Larry. Very nice guy.

Fuck, I was thinking about him the other day. I didn't know him, but I've read a lot of his stuff and was thinking about listening to the 411 podcast, which I never have.

[Emperor Smeat]

Very sad news today. 411mania founder Larry Csonka passed away this morning. I used to write for Larry. Very nice guy.

RIP.

411Mania used to be one of my go to sites for wrestling news until Pro Wrestling and Fightful popped up.

His reviews for shows were pretty great to read and helped influence the idea of finally doing one for the TPWW Frontpage.

[Evil Vito]

Martha Hart confirms with CBS Sports what has long been assumed: Owen Hart will never go into the WWE HOF. Martha said she wouldn’t even entertain it and characterized the entire concept as “garbage”.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Which is fair enough. She has no obligation to make peace with a company that caused her so much grief and put her husband, innocuously intended or not, in the ridiculous position that led to his death.

[Evil Vito]

Really Owen’s one of those unofficial HOFers anyway, like how Bruno and others were before making peace with Vince.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martha Hart on Owen and the HOF question: “Their HOF? They don't even have a Hallway of Fame. It doesn't exist. There's nothing. It's a fake entity. There's nothing real or tangible. It's just an event they have to make money.<br><br>“I would never even entertain it. It's garbage.&quot;</p>&mdash; Alex McCarthy (@AlexM_talkSPORT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexM_talkSPORT/status/1262443020298915842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WWE could probably do a "Hallway of Fame" at their Performance Center as a way to honor their Hall of Famers and be a useful source of motivation for their PC trainees.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really Owen’s one of those unofficial HOFers anyway, like how Bruno and others were before making peace with Vince.

Yeah, I don't think you really need the WWE to tell you who is important in a historical sense. If anything they cloud and distort things.

[Volare]

Zelina/Aleister jumped on the wagon as well....

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[thekrow]

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Tyson Taylor just picked up the midstate title.

[slik]

Baffled as to why Bianca Belair has been working Main Event instead of RAW

[James Steele]

Who was the last NXT call-up they didn’t completely fuck up?

[Gerard]

https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/owen-harts-legacy-a-priority-as-martha-harts-wounds-have-healed-though-her-distaste-for-wwe-has-not/

Martha hart article about Owen.

[Emperor Smeat]

Who was the last NXT call-up they didn’t completely fuck up?

Charlotte?

[XL]

Baffled as to why Bianca Belair has been working Main Event instead of RAW

Yup. Found myself wondering what the point of moving her to Raw was while watching yesterday’s show.

[Emperor Smeat]

Baffled as to why Bianca Belair has been working Main Event instead of RAW

Because despite what Triple H claimed a few times before, WWE legit doesn't plan things out for their call-ups.

Like with the Street Profits vs. Viking Raiders feud, her only involvement was to warn the Profits to stop goofing around and take the Raiders as a serious threat. Fast forward a couple of weeks and both teams are goofing off making everything she mentioned before meaningless.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dusty Rhodes cosplaying as Larry Bird. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NWA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NWA</a> <a href="https://t.co/cNby4VjSH5">pic.twitter.com/cNby4VjSH5</a></p>&mdash; Edwin (@edwinx1903) <a href="https://twitter.com/edwinx1903/status/1262474317180350466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

They’re doubling down on this “Greatest Wrestling Match Ever” tag for Orton/Edge at Backlash. You should see it on wwe.com.

[Black Widow]

They’re doubling down on this “Greatest Wrestling Match Ever” tag for Orton/Edge at Backlash. You should see it on wwe.com.

Fucking Idiots!!

[Droford]

I hope it lasts an hour and takes up 2/3 of the show

[Danny Electric]

If you don’t think it’s the greatest wrestling match ever do you get your money back, got to be some false advertising there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's some weird/bad promotional philosophy. You never set something up like that. But also, what is the point of it? The idea of a match is to win in decisive fashion. Bullshit like "best bouts" and all that is contrary to the point of wrestling.

I'm thinking it doesn't even happen. Classic WWE. Either that or it's over in a couple of seconds. Maybe it spills into something else entirely?

[Emperor Smeat]

For those interested, recent episode of the Bill Simmons Podcast had Undertaker as the guest.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New BS Podcast: The Undertaker aka Mark Calaway on 3 decades w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wwe</a>, the WM Streak, the Montreal Screwjob, losing to Lesnar, running the locker room, concussions, mortality, Vegas + dealing w/ Vince. So much fun.<br><br>Spotify: <a href="https://t.co/XKftao85Yr">https://t.co/XKftao85Yr</a><br><br>Apple: <a href="https://t.co/HzvjNyAFpa">https://t.co/HzvjNyAFpa</a> <a href="https://t.co/cdyU820ErQ">pic.twitter.com/cdyU820ErQ</a></p>&mdash; Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1262911657287663618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

Sounds like a lite version of The Last Ride

[screech]

Enjoyed that episode very much :y:

[Lock Jaw]

I hope it lasts an hour and takes up 2/3 of the show

15 minute chinlock by Orton

[drave]

Rest-hold Randy

[Droford]

WWE already selling The MOM shirts and the MAN (with the N in black so its The MA) shirts for Becky

[Savio]

Apparently WWE had a huge storyline planned that would have been the big post-Mania storyline for this year.

According to WrestleVotes, would have been on the same level as the Vince McMahon limo explosion or Nexus debut storylines in terms of importance.
I for one am utterly shocked that WWE had plans for a big storyline.

[XL]

I mean, they liken it to the limo explosion and Nexus storylines, knowing how they ended we’re probably better off not having it.

[Emperor Smeat]

The Undertaker joined Big Cat and PFT Commentator on a recent episode of Pardon My Take ...

Taker was also asked about a rumor that he was afraid of cucumbers. The question led to a fun back-and-forth between Undertaker and the hosts.

"OK, let's get this straight. We've had a good conversation," Undertaker said. "I'm not scared of cucumbers. I just don't like cucumbers."

"I just like the idea of Undertaker, the biggest badass ever, if you just bring a cucumber into the room, you'll make him a little kid," Big Cat said.

"I'll probably leave the room. I'm not gonna run," Undertaker joked. "If they're whole, that's one thing. If they're cut up, whew."

"The Cucumber Man is someone that can be used. That's how you should've lost at WrestleMania," Big Cat added. "The Cucumber Man coming out and slewing cucumbers at your face."

"People would have bought that a lot more if I slipped on a cucumber," Undertaker remarked. "Man, the hair on my neck is starting to stand up."

[Vastardikai]

I feel like someone with photoshop knowledge should read this story, and be given this video. They would know what to do with it.

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[Vastardikai]

And... another one of from the "This match was referenced by Jim Cornette so I had to find and share it" files.

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[Seanny One Ball]

The Undertaker probably once ate a cucumber Paul Bearer had shoved up his ass or something.
Maybe he walked in on him pleasuring himself with a cucumber and realised that was the mystery flavour he had been tasting all along.

[drave]

You been getting too close to the smackheads outside your mall?

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah I said hi to your mum for you

[drave]

That's quite true, and one of the biggest reasons I don't speak with her :)

[LibSuperstar]

That's quite true, and one of the biggest reasons I don't speak with her :)

*Chuckles*

[Seanny One Ball]

When "your mom" jokes go bad

[drave]

Eh, its really just "whatever" at this point. I tried, really tried, to include her in the lives of her grandkids. She CBA to put down the bad habits. Been nearly 10 years now, so the emotional ties are gone.



Was awkward at my grandma's funeral in January being a pall bearer. My grandma was a fucking saint though, I'd carry her through Hellfire and Brimstone if I had to :D

[Seanny One Ball]

Now we're back to Paul Bearer and crack

[drave]

See? it was related. Screw the squared circle, TPWW always goes full circle.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is amazing!!!<br><br>Shibata boots his own tag partner Nakamura off of the apron and then tags himself in by absolutely bitch slapping Tanahashi in the face!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://t.co/q0P1Bl1Evn">pic.twitter.com/q0P1Bl1Evn</a></p>&mdash; Ciaràn (@CiaranRH) <a href="https://twitter.com/CiaranRH/status/1263483404789731330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is it true that when the IICONICS make their entrance pose that <a href="https://twitter.com/PeytonRoyceWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PeytonRoyceWWE</a> forms an R for Royce and <a href="https://twitter.com/BillieKayWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BillieKayWWE</a> forms a K for Kay? <a href="https://t.co/tYOjMu4khb">pic.twitter.com/tYOjMu4khb</a></p>&mdash; Myndrunner (@Myndrunner) <a href="https://twitter.com/Myndrunner/status/1262925158727266309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What are YOU gonna do, you mental case? Find another prelim spot you can fuck yourself out of? Of all the people in the world I couldn't whip your miniscule midget ass isn't one. Enjoy obscurity, you've earned it. <a href="https://t.co/30ZJQyfEKH">https://t.co/30ZJQyfEKH</a></p>&mdash; Jim Cornette (@TheJimCornette) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/1263823599049117704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

WWE just trolling people with Charlotte at this point


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Monday on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a>!<a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MsCharlotteWWE</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/NiaJaxWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NiaJaxWWE</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/NatbyNature?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NatbyNature</a> battle for the right to challenge <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEAsuka</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEBacklash?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEBacklash</a>!<a href="https://t.co/cd81f1XySO">https://t.co/cd81f1XySO</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1264020923864297480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

AJ gonna feud with Otis over that title one day

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING NEWS: <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a> has been traded to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a> for future considerations. <a href="https://t.co/ynAxeLGqZK">pic.twitter.com/ynAxeLGqZK</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1263994899780812801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

So random lol


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's OFFICIAL!<a href="https://twitter.com/BraunStrowman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraunStrowman</a> defends the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UniversalTitle?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UniversalTitle</a> against <a href="https://twitter.com/mikethemiz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mikethemiz</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealMorrison?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealMorrison</a> in a Handicap Match at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEBacklash?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEBacklash</a>! <a href="https://t.co/uRyPVwzssC">pic.twitter.com/uRyPVwzssC</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1264006572705005569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Volare]

Talk about jumping the shark....

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[slik]

ahahahahahaha that music at the end

The YT comments are great too

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stardom fans,<br><br>We are very sorry to report that our Hana Kimura has passed away.<br><br>Please be respectful and allow some time for things to process, and keep your thoughts and prayers with her family and friends.<br><br>We appreciate your support during this difficult time.</p>&mdash; We Are Stardom (@we_are_stardom) <a href="https://twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/1264045951607386113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Earlier in the day on May 22, 2020, Hana had tweeted out images of what appeared to be self-harm, with captions that suggested she was on the receiving end of a great deal of cyberbullying.

Supposedly she was dealing with a ton of harassment online ever since an episode of reality series Terrance House aired that featured her going off on a room mate who ruined her wrestling gear. Add that with the usual shit women wrestlers have to deal with online and that ended up finally driving her over the edge.

[DaveWadding]

Fucking Christ.

[Fignuts]

Fucking god damn it.

She's one of my favorites in Stardom. Been following her since her start in Wrestle-1 because she had so much potential.

Between this and Arisa abrubtly retiring, I dunno if I can keep watching Stardom when it starts back up.

One wonders if this would have happened if this COVID shit wasn't around. She would have been around friends and family a lot more if she was wrestling.

[Fignuts]

From one of the guys on a discord I post at who reads Japanese

So i wondered into the terracehouse fansites because of Hana's situation. I can report that wrestling fans are no where near as dysfunctional as that group. Literally read people saying "if we told her to die, its her fault for not being strong enough to deal with it". Thats enough internet for me today.

[Fignuts]

Japan's fucked up Idol culture surely didn't help.

Apparently Mayu Iwatani has similar mental issues and has cut herself in the past.

Fuck's sake.

[Emperor Smeat]

Fucking god damn it.

She's one of my favorites in Stardom. Been following her since her start in Wrestle-1 because she had so much potential.

Between this and Arisa abrubtly retiring, I dunno if I can keep watching Stardom when it starts back up.

One wonders if this would have happened if this COVID shit wasn't around. She would have been around friends and family a lot more if she was wrestling.

All depends on how bad her mental state was by that point. Even with no coronavorus around and having a strong support system, no guarantee this wouldn't have eventually happened.

If she was at the point of no return, nothing is going to change that beyond her own willpower.

[XL]

ahahahahahaha that music at the end

The YT comments are great too

“This is the Greatest Show!”

Great movie. They better go full force with dressing the PC like a circus.

[Black Widow]

For those interested, recent episode of the Bill Simmons Podcast had Undertaker as the guest.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New BS Podcast: The Undertaker aka Mark Calaway on 3 decades w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wwe</a>, the WM Streak, the Montreal Screwjob, losing to Lesnar, running the locker room, concussions, mortality, Vegas + dealing w/ Vince. So much fun.<br><br>Spotify: <a href="https://t.co/XKftao85Yr">https://t.co/XKftao85Yr</a><br><br>Apple: <a href="https://t.co/HzvjNyAFpa">https://t.co/HzvjNyAFpa</a> <a href="https://t.co/cdyU820ErQ">pic.twitter.com/cdyU820ErQ</a></p>&mdash; Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/1262911657287663618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Only time I'll waste time with a wrestling podcast.

[Evil Vito]

Horrific and tragic.

Predictably, many of the scumbags tweeting at Hana to kill herself have gone back and deleted their tweets.

[Evil Vito]

Aside from the suicide, it does seem that there’s a recent trend of the Japanese women retiring very young. Arisa was only 24, Hazuki 22, Kagetsu 26. I know they all start training very young which unfortunately contributes to the injuries piling up very early on.

Meanwhile you’ve got Sumie Sakai still wrestling in the states at nearly 50.

[Black Widow]

I mean sucks she killed herself but if i killed myself everytime i was called a slut,dyke,ugly or worthless i would have died a thousand deaths.

In short people need to stop giving words so much power especially when it's coming from a bunch Twitter nobodies.

[Savio]

Cornette is probably jealous he couldn't cyberbully a woman to death.

[Fignuts]

A number of news sites including forbes are reporting wrestling fans drove her to this which is bullshit. It was the Terrace House fanbase which were the main contributors. She's pretty well loved in the wrestling fan community.

[Droford]

WWE just trolling people with Charlotte at this point


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Monday on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a>!<a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MsCharlotteWWE</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/NiaJaxWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NiaJaxWWE</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/NatbyNature?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NatbyNature</a> battle for the right to challenge <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEAsuka</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEBacklash?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEBacklash</a>!<a href="https://t.co/cd81f1XySO">https://t.co/cd81f1XySO</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1264020923864297480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably going to have her win all 3 belts

[Mr. Nerfect]

I mean sucks she killed herself but if i killed myself everytime i was called a slut,dyke,ugly or worthless i would have died a thousand deaths.

In short people need to stop giving words so much power especially when it's coming from a bunch Twitter nobodies.

This is a really excellent post.

Cornette is probably jealous he couldn't cyberbully a woman to death.

There once was a cunt. For years the cunt would shiver and emit some loose noises. The villagers were really impressed and respected the cunt, and even put some velvet rope around it in the town square so to give it time to do what it was trying to do. Eventually the cunt's sputtering formed a noise recognizable...words! The cunt spoke words! The town people gathered around to listen to it speak. Afterwards, they realized the real trick was getting the cunt to shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up, cunt.

A number of news sites including forbes are reporting wrestling fans drove her to this which is bullshit. It was the Terrace House fanbase which were the main contributors. She's pretty well loved in the wrestling fan community.

Her mental state drove her to this. It's not really a case of blaming others or denying blame. All fans should look at themselves and how they carry themselves, but she was obviously not well.

[drave]

Do you believe "her mental state that drove her to this" would have even existed if said fans would never have said anything? Highly doubtful.



Surely you cannot be that dense.....

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Hana might have been showing suicidal signs as early as around 3 weeks ago based on a cooking video Stardom posted on their Youtube channel where someone pointed out scars can be seen on her wrist at one point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do you believe "her mental state that drove her to this" would have even existed if said fans would never have said anything? Highly doubtful.



Surely you cannot be that dense.....

What the fuck do you know about her mental health and history? Was she depressed growing up? What was her family life like? What were her finances? How was her love life? Were her employers fair?

She was a performer. It takes a certain kind of person to do that, and sometimes they put pressure on themselves or are dealing with some sort of depression from the start.

[drave]

Please ask yourself all the same questions and answer them please.

[Fignuts]

People don’t kill themselves because they want to die. They kill themselves when the pain caused by their mental illness outweighs their ability to cope with said pain. It’s a war of attrition that takes place over a long period of time. So it’s something she probably has been dealing with for a while now.

That said, I don’t think the role that people on social media played in her death should be downplayed. Especially considering she directly mentions it in her final farewell tweet.

It’s one thing to fight severe depression. I couldn’t even imagine trying to fight it while hundreds of people are sending you death threats and telling you to kill yourself on a daily basis.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The lack of understanding and empathy for someone suffering from severe mental illness taking their life is concerning.

[Seanny One Ball]

There once was a cunt. For years the cunt would shiver and emit some loose noises. The villagers were really impressed and respected the cunt, and even put some velvet rope around it in the town square so to give it time to do what it was trying to do. Eventually the cunt's sputtering formed a noise recognizable...words! The cunt spoke words! The town people gathered around to listen to it speak. Afterwards, they realized the real trick was getting the cunt to shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up, cunt.







I am still laughing at this brutal annihilation.

This is the best post I have ever seen in the wrestling forum.

[Seanny One Ball]

Like, it's as gay as hell initially but then you realise the gayness was some horrible trick to make you feel better than the horrible shit you are about to realise

[Seanny One Ball]

The lack of understanding and empathy for someone suffering from severe mental illness taking their life is concerning.



In an industry founded on the bodies of lost souls, you would be more surprised if someone got over it...

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on early indications, Hana ended up killing herself via hydrogen sulfide.

Also her mother was the first to find her lying dead on the floor.

Kairi Sane ended up being the first notable person to notice the disturbing tweet Hana had sent due to the timezones and contacted people from Stardom to rush to her aid.

[drave]

Kairi was also blaming herself for not noticing sooner. :(


Always hurts more than the person lost. Hope everyone is able to cope and move forward.

[Bad News Gertner]

I can't imagine finding your kid dead. A buddy of mine overdosed on Fentanyl and his mom found him dead in his apartment. Just the worst.

[Bad News Gertner]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f6cbc3f135c740f16ab092878479019b/tumblr_pmsgtaxjUj1s24yedo4_400.gifv

[Emperor Smeat]

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[slik]

^^^

I've been saying the same thing. Whatever number RAW or SD eventually settles at, add about 200-300k to that when live crowds are back and that's the new normal. (My prediction for RAW is 1.5 and SD 1.8 during during 'rona)

AEW and NXT might add 100k each is my guess.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even though AEW and NXT are suffering with the decline in DVR viewers, feel they still have a good chance to get back to pre-coronavirus levels when things return to normal after a while. Mainly due to the gap needing to be closed is a lot smaller than RAW and SD and both shows are still in the tv audience building stage.

All depends on how much longer these crowd-less shows last and people feeling comfortable enough to start regularly showing up in large enough numbers to make a real difference without also risking everything going right back to square one with the virus.

[Bad News Gertner]

So it looks like Hana's cause of death was Hydrogen Sulfide which I found strange, but apparently it is/was a popular method of suicide in Japan

https://occup-med.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1745-6673-5-28

[Bad News Gertner]

https://i.gifer.com/BcBF.gif

[drave]

Love Vader

[slik]

The Rock's show on NBC, The TITAN GAMES begins tonight the same time as the first 2 hrs of RAW is WAR

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You don’t want to miss the return of The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TitanGames?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TitanGames</a> MONDAY 8/7c on <a href="https://twitter.com/nbc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NBC</a>. There is only one goal in mind - to come out on top. <a href="https://t.co/xAwXsNKkPH">pic.twitter.com/xAwXsNKkPH</a></p>&mdash; The Titan Games (@nbctitangames) <a href="https://twitter.com/nbctitangames/status/1263877286127734784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone had to do it. <a href="https://t.co/Cy4XI3yvD3">pic.twitter.com/Cy4XI3yvD3</a></p>&mdash; Mr. Pilkington (@Onikuno) <a href="https://twitter.com/Onikuno/status/1264630184709443584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

The Rock's show on NBC, The TITAN GAMES begins tonight the same time as the first 2 hrs of RAW is WAR

Raw gonna miss out on the soccer mom demo

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently WWE is going to start having wrestlers be the crowds for their empty arena shows starting with tonight's episode of RAW based on an internal memo that got leaked.

Unlike AEW, seems its only going to be Performance Center talent used for crowds and they won't be shown on camera.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Should still help the vibe of the show

[drave]

Apparently WWE is going to start having wrestlers be the crowds for their empty arena shows starting with tonight's episode of RAW based on an internal memo that got leaked.

Unlike AEW, seems its only going to be Performance Center talent used for crowds and they won't be shown on camera.




Noid's gonna flip his shit when they take AEW's idea :lol::lol::lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

Since WWE is going to surround the ring area with plexiglass to create a hockey-like setting, might as well also bring back The Goon for a new run.

[ClockShot]

Apparently WWE is going to start having wrestlers be the crowds for their empty arena shows starting with tonight's episode of RAW based on an internal memo that got leaked.

Unlike AEW, seems its only going to be Performance Center talent used for crowds and they won't be shown on camera.

Oh, this I gotta see.

[drave]

Since WWE is going to surround the ring area with plexiglass to create a hockey-like setting, might as well also bring back The Goon for a new run.




:wtf:

[#1-norm-fan]

WWE is really promoting an upcoming match as “the greatest wrestling match ever”. lol They’re clearly TRYING to be terrible at this point. I’m just not sure what they expect the endgame to be.

[screech]

Since WWE is going to surround the ring area with plexiglass to create a hockey-like setting, might as well also bring back The Goon for a new run.

Wait for real? That's actually kinda neat.

[screech]

Also it's about time they decided to put some people out there for these shows.

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno what the point of the glass is, though.... "social distancing" the crowd from the rasslers.... but meanwhile the crowd had no "social distancing" from each other....

[Emperor Smeat]

Drew Gulak currently rumored to have signed a new deal with WWE since he's working at this week's tapings and WWE moved his profile from the Alumni to active roster section.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

WWE is really promoting an upcoming match as “the greatest wrestling match ever”. lol They’re clearly TRYING to be terrible at this point. I’m just not sure what they expect the endgame to be.

You ever seen a Randy Orton headlock? It's a thing of fckn beauty.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, Matt Riddle is getting called up to the main roster very soon.

Would explain why NXT rushed both the tag title change and feud with Thatcher instead of saving their first big match or blow off for Takeover In Your House in 2 weeks.

[slik]

I can't see Riddle doing great on the main roster, I just can't picture Vince "getting him" tbh

[Lock Jaw]

I can't see ______ doing great on the main roster

[slik]

Kanefused as to how Bianca Belair was called up and used like 3 or 4 times and then sent to Main Event and not mentioned on RAW again...should be an incredibly easy call-up via good mic skills and great ring skills...

[Triple A]

PWInsider says that Riddle is going to SmackDown unfortunately... "sigh..."

[slik]

Baron Corbin going to feud with Matt Riddle over having ugly feet probably

"Corbin is bullying Matt Riddle Corey over his feet, Matt Riddle's feet represent the feet of many members of the WWE Universe"
- Michael Cole

[slik]

Corbin knocks out Riddle and puts clown shoes on him

"Riddle has been HUMILIATED by King Corbin" (fake laughs)
- Corey Graves

[Emperor Smeat]

Kanefused as to how Bianca Belair was called up and used like 3 or 4 times and then sent to Main Event and not mentioned on RAW again...should be an incredibly easy call-up via good mic skills and great ring skills...

Because Heyman and/or someone else in RAW Creative decided to suddenly change plans early on for the Street Profits vs. Viking Raiders feud.

Went from being a serious feud with the Raiders as this huge menacing threat and Profits needing to get their act together if they wanted to keep the belts into quickly becoming a feud that's been about both teams goofing off and playing sports games instead.

Don't need Belair around for that nor her tough stance on the Profits goofing off habits.

[XL]

PWInsider says that Riddle is going to SmackDown unfortunately... "sigh..."

Matches vs Bryan, vs Gulak, vs Cesaro, vs Chad Gable (is he on SmackDown?). I could get behind that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Noid's gonna flip his shit when they take AEW's idea :lol::lol::lol:

Yes. Such a revolutionary idea as using plants. :wtf:

Matches vs Bryan, vs Gulak, vs Cesaro, vs Chad Gable (is he on SmackDown?). I could get behind that.

Would be good shit, honestly.

[screech]

Matches vs Bryan, vs Gulak, vs Cesaro, vs Chad Gable (is he on SmackDown?). I could get behind that.

Now AJ too. I can roll with this.