"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Jordan]

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10/10

[slik]

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What is this from??

[Tom Guycott]

ah the days where you gave your computer AIDS thanks to Limewire and Kazaa

I always used Napster and Limewire. Never had much use for Kazaa, as Kazaa itself always seemed to fuck up my PC. OG Napster was decent for dial-up and for getting what you were actually looking for.

[Emperor Smeat]

What is this from??
From a Xtreme Pro Wrestling show after ECW shut down.

For years it was rumored New Jack purposely overshot the toss as payback for a botched spot in ECW between the two that resulted in him suffering a serious head injury.

[DaveWadding]

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Buenas noches, Psycho Clown.

[Rammsteinmad]

From a Xtreme Pro Wrestling show after ECW shut down.

For years it was rumored New Jack purposely overshot the toss as payback for a botched spot in ECW between the two that resulted in him suffering a serious head injury.

If I recall correctly, New Jack was responsible for that botch as well.

[Bad News Gertner]

New Jack said in interviews that he was trying to throw Grimes onto the ring post, but it's pretty clearly Grimes over shooting his target

[Jordan]

I fucking hate New Jack.

[slik]

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[Jordan]

WTF is she thinking?!? Crazy cat people.

[slik]

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[Innovator]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

New Jack isn’t as awful as I thought. People have bought into the work.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shout out to Liam O’Rourke on Cornette’s podcast. Both Corny and Brian Last gave him credit for his book. :y:

[Sixx]

How the fuck is Ziggler main eventing anything?

[Mr. Nerfect]

How the fuck is Ziggler main eventing anything?

He's leftover potential from 5 years ago they keep zapping in the microwave with mid-card titles.

[Evil Vito]

Something in WWE booking that occurred to me recently that's very telling of Vince's mentality - how often do you hear about male babyfaces being "best friends"?

Female wrestlers are routinely "best friends", and male heels (Zayn and Owens, Jericho and Owens) are routinely described as best friends - but Reigns? Cena? Lashley? AJ Styles? Do these people have "best friends"? No - and I think it's because Vince sees friendship, or any sort of emotional connection to another person, as emotional weakness and unmanly, and assumes the audience would agree.

So you end up with heels that feel like real, fleshed out human beings, while the babyfaces are cookie-cutter "rebels" going it alone, because Vince thinks fans will only relate to a face that's "sticking it to the man".

[slik]

The Shield are best friends though

[Simple Fan]

They became best friends as heels though.

[Vastardikai]

This is one of the things that sticks out to me watching Memphis wrestling. The heels gets a beatdown long enough to get heat, and then a bunch of faces, led by Lawler, would come in to save a day. Sometimes it's just Lawler himself, but it gets a bigger point across. Poor sap in the ring getting his ass kicked but he's a good guy, and people don't want to see the good guy get hurt. And when Lawler comes out, it says to the audience that he sticks up for the little guy. By leading a charge, it says to the audience that he is the kind of person every other good guy looks up to and they'll back him up because of it.

That does more than declaring yourself the Big Dog or having "good matches." Wrestling is a visual medium. Show, don't tell. Wrestling as an Athletic Performance will always make less money than Wrestling as a Morality Play.

[Big Vic]

The Shield are best friends though
"We are brothers"

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is one of the things that sticks out to me watching Memphis wrestling. The heels gets a beatdown long enough to get heat, and then a bunch of faces, led by Lawler, would come in to save a day. Sometimes it's just Lawler himself, but it gets a bigger point across. Poor sap in the ring getting his ass kicked but he's a good guy, and people don't want to see the good guy get hurt. And when Lawler comes out, it says to the audience that he sticks up for the little guy. By leading a charge, it says to the audience that he is the kind of person every other good guy looks up to and they'll back him up because of it.

That does more than declaring yourself the Big Dog or having "good matches." Wrestling is a visual medium. Show, don't tell. Wrestling as an Athletic Performance will always make less money than Wrestling as a Morality Play.

They're stuck in the Attitude era mentality, even though they're actively trying to get away from the things that made that work.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Vince and co. do not understand the basic premise of show don't tell. Every promo is exposition. It's infuriating.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's not only exposition, but it's often redundant exposition. I noticed it a few years ago, but Seth Rollins cut the same promo on the same show twice, and to get to that point they didn't need it in the first place.

Plus, it's often exposition in the form of an inauthentic, pantomimic soliloquy. People don't trade zingers like they try to get their talent to. They all look like fucking losers. Give me someone foaming at the mouth that is less concerned with being verbally articulate and more concerned having some actual fucking pride in themselves.

[slik]

ROMAN IS THE BIG DOG AND IT'S HIS YARD AND BROCK CHEATED TO WIN.

- Every Roman Reigns promo since the year began

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Exposition is sometimes necessary but should always be used sparsely. It's the very definition of telling instead of showing... or even worse, telling and showing as a way to tell the fans the reaction you want from the.

[Innovator]

ROMAN IS THE BIG DOG AND IT'S HIS YARD AND BROCK CHEATED TO WIN.

- Every Roman Reigns promo since the year began

NO ONE HAS MORE OF A POINT THAN THE BIG DOG

Who lost to Bobby last night, and keeps losing to Brock

[Mr. Nerfect]

ROMAN IS THE BIG DOG AND IT'S HIS YARD AND BROCK CHEATED TO WIN.

- Every Roman Reigns promo since the year began

Does he even say that he's cheating to win? Isn't it closer to "Yeah, I got my ass kicked. I don't know why I'm getting another shot, frankly I don't care, I'm just The Big Dog and I'm ready for a Big Fight."

[Mr. Nerfect]

Exposition is sometimes necessary but should always be used sparsely. It's the very definition of telling instead of showing... or even worse, telling and showing as a way to tell the fans the reaction you want from the.

Exactly.

One of the biggest problems with WWE is that they look down on the intelligence of their audience. They think kids are stupider than they are, and can't attract them, so they end up doing on the nose exposition with a bunch of 38+ men.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE has literally forgotten that the idea of a fight is to win it without getting beaten up.

[Emperor Smeat]

Something in WWE booking that occurred to me recently that's very telling of Vince's mentality - how often do you hear about male babyfaces being "best friends"?

Female wrestlers are routinely "best friends", and male heels (Zayn and Owens, Jericho and Owens) are routinely described as best friends - but Reigns? Cena? Lashley? AJ Styles? Do these people have "best friends"? No - and I think it's because Vince sees friendship, or any sort of emotional connection to another person, as emotional weakness and unmanly, and assumes the audience would agree.

So you end up with heels that feel like real, fleshed out human beings, while the babyfaces are cookie-cutter "rebels" going it alone, because Vince thinks fans will only relate to a face that's "sticking it to the man".

Even when they do establish friendships, another big problem is they rarely have their bigger stars help out their friends when needed the most. Cena being the biggest offender of this.

Or when they do get involved, it just comes off as trying to get some cheap cheers than the big face star being concerned over the wel-lbeing of his pals. Reigns has been an offender of this in recent years.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They have so many continuity problems. Kurt Angle is a glaring example of this. They make him out to be the biggest fucking idiot as General Manager.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They forget that your babyfaces have to do likable things and that just acting as if a babyface is a babyface isn't enough.

[Evil Vito]

More time has passed between Brock Lesnar's WWE return to present day (6 years, 3 months) than between Brock's last match before going to UFC and his WWE return (4 years, 10 months).

Seems weird that it's been that long. Mostly because the product has felt the fucking same for nearly the entire time Lesnar's been back and, frankly, probably a couple of years before that.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Andrade "Cien" Almas is the fucking man. Zelena Vega is amazing. Almas is who I would eventually have dethrone AJ, but not for a few more months.

[LibSuperstar]

Andrade "Cien" Almas is the fucking man. Zelena Vega is amazing. Almas is who I would eventually have dethrone AJ, but not for a few more months.

Drawing blanks on who else could.

[Sixx]

Andrade "Cien" Almas is the fucking man. Zelena Vega is amazing. Almas is who I would eventually have dethrone AJ, but not for a few more months.

Wait, all those guys are in the WWE?

[Sixx]

he'd sound cooler in Poland. Cien means SHADOW.

[Sixx]

I've been watching a shitload of wrestling today. More than in a long long time.

Not whole matches, though. Top Ten lists like "Top 10 most embarassing repackages" etc.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Drawing blanks on who else could.

If not Shinsuke, which is clearly isn't, I really can't think of anyone else either. Not on the heel side, anyway.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rusev?

WWE just needs to get fully behind him to build up his star power more since he already has the crowd invested in him.

Had Bryan not been relegated to tag stuff, he would be another great choice to dethrone Styles now.

[slik]

Drawing blanks on who else could.


Samoa Joe isn't injured, they just haven't used him on TV lately.
Joe could be a good 'heel champ' for brand blue.

[Sixx]

Now I started watching matches.

Taker vs Hardy in a ladder match. That's interesting.

[Sixx]

Hey, hes there even been a Royal Rumble match where they could also pin nd submit someone? I used to do that on my N64.

[Emperor Smeat]

Hey, hes there even been a Royal Rumble match where they could also pin nd submit someone? I used to do that on my N64.

No but Macho Man once tried to pin someone during a Rumble. Then again Macho Man also once eliminated himself during one as well. Might have even been from the same Rumble.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Joe could do it. I'm fine with Styles taking it into Mania against Bryan though. Almas can beat Bryan for it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Styles takes the belt into WrestleMania, he will surpass Shawn Michaels, CM Punk, Randy Savage, Brock Lesnar, Triple H and Bret Hart in total days spent as WWE Champion on the way. They make for interesting story beats as you march towards whoever wins the Rumble and challenges Styles.

[Gerard]

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:rofl:

Seen better built legs hanging out of a birds nest.

[Sixx]

Holy fuck, is Nash sick?

[Gerard]

Holy fuck, is Nash sick?

He's always had pretty skinny legs, part of the reason he always wore long pants.

[Sixx]

Ah, I see.

That was not me laughing at him, by the way, but I really thought this might be the case.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It doesn't look right.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I could be wrong, but he may have had knee surgery recently, accounting for the lack of size on his legs (what with not being able to train them).

[Sixx]

Oh. Wait, wasn't he famous for tearing his quads? Or am I mistain' him with someone else?

[#1-norm-fan]

I could be wrong, but he may have had knee surgery recently, accounting for the lack of size on his legs (what with not being able to train them).

Nah. There are pics of him from years ago where his legs look like twigs. They've always looked like that.

[Sixx]

Anyone else noticed that a lot of NFL players that sucked ass big time turned wrestlers?

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah at least in recent years, that seems to be the growing trend.

The ties between football and wrestling go back decades with several good players in the past going into wrestling because it paid better or was easier to make the big bucks. Then you have others like the Rock who were decent or good at the college level but never went beyond it prior to becoming wrestlers.

[Sixx]

O, i imagine some decent players turned wrestlers in the past. Like who for example?

[Emperor Smeat]

Ernie Ladd is usually the one that gets mentioned the most but supposedly Dusty Rhodes was good enough to be coveted by NFL teams but turned down offers to go into wrestling instead.

[Sixx]

I just read Rhodes wanted to go professional but got cut.

But that's wiipedia info so take it as you will.

[Sixx]

But I can see that Ernie Ladd guy must have been good.

Usually wrestlers that played were only pre-season and spent 1 year in a team tops.

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Holy shit...

If he wasn't braindead for taking that spot hopefully he isn't after.

[Emperor Smeat]

I just read Rhodes wanted to go professional but got cut.

But that's wiipedia info so take it as you will.

Yeah based on an article I read while looking up football players as wrestlers, it mentioned he tried out for the Patriots and Giants but didn't make it out of training camp. Supposedly the Dolphins were still willing to give him an offer so I assume he must have been good as a player in college. He rejected it since he already made up his mind on being a wrestler instead.

[Tom Guycott]

Surprised nobody said Ron Simmons.

[Sixx]

Surprised nobody said Ron Simmons.

His stats are pretty meh.

Too bad OJ didn't become a wrestler instead of a murderer. It would be huge, he was a huge star.

[Tom Guycott]

His stats are pretty meh.


I wouldn't know. I'm not that into Florida State. Hell, I would never known Rock played for The U if it were never mentioned.

I mean more along the lines of "I heard about so-and-so" talked about in that circle before wrestling. Like Brock Lesnar (NCAA wrestling) or Bianca BelAir (track). I never heard anything about Dwayne Johnson's playing days until WWE brought it up.

[Sixx]

I wouldn't know. I'm not that into Florida State. Hell, I would never known Rock played for The U if it were never mentioned.

I mean more along the lines of "I heard about so-and-so" talked about in that circle before wrestling. Like Brock Lesnar (NCAA wrestling) or Bianca BelAir (track).

Yeah, so am I really. Just chit chatting. I only checked on wiki and his NFL career does not look too great.

I know nothing about Uni football.

[Vastardikai]

I wouldn't know. I'm not that into Florida State. Hell, I would never known Rock played for The U if it were never mentioned.

I mean more along the lines of "I heard about so-and-so" talked about in that circle before wrestling. Like Brock Lesnar (NCAA wrestling) or Bianca BelAir (track). I never heard anything about Dwayne Johnson's playing days until WWE brought it up.

Isn't Ron Simmons in the Orange Bowl Hall of Fame?

[Tom Guycott]

His stats are pretty meh.

Too bad OJ didn't become a wrestler instead of a murderer. It would be huge, he was a huge star.

I wonder about stuff like that sometimes. Like, what if Snoop Dogg didn't go on to release the "longest awaited rap album of all time", and instead, focused on football? From what I understand, he was a standout QB. Would he have been Heisman material in college and possibly gone on to the NFL? Would he have "smoked too much" and been suspended/forced out like Rickey Williams? And how different would not only the music world but the sports world be (or pop culture in general) if he made a shift in focus back then? What if Kevin Nash never got hurt in the first place, and kept playing basketball? Would his career doing that outstripped the lack of Diesel, the Curtain Call, The Outsiders, nWo, and so-on...? There would be a lot of shit that wouldn't have taken place and other plans put in motion.

[Tom Guycott]

Isn't Ron Simmons in the Orange Bowl Hall of Fame?

Again, I don't know, because I don't give a fuck about the Seminoles, but I thought people talked about not liking standing across from Ron on the field back in his day because you were going to get put on your ass.

Meanwhile, I *only* remember Mongo from the Horsemen, and not playing for the Bears. Wasn't his claim to fame that he was part of the Super Bowl team? I remember Jim McMahon, I remember Fridge, Singletary, Payton... I don't remember Steve.

Being fair about that, though, given where I live, I don't give a fuck about Ziggler's accomplishments at Kent St. not so much because it wasn't admirable, but because I'm a YSU fan, and fuck Kent State. It's really less pronounced now, but back then, they were kinda rivals.

[DaveWadding]

Vader played pro and no one has mentioned him somehow.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nah. There are pics of him from years ago where his legs look like twigs. They've always looked like that.

To be fair, he had probably injured himself around that time period too.

[Bad News Gertner]

Vader played pro and no one has mentioned him somehow.

He was a practice squad player. Like Jim The Anvil Neidhart

[Bad News Gertner]

Football players transition well into wrestling because football is all about footwork which is so important for a wrestler

[Mr. Nerfect]

I saw the End of an Era match referenced somewhere. It got me thinking about how it was 6 years ago.

[Big Vic]

and how the Era ended 6 years before that?

[Evil Vito]

The Attitude Era for all intents and purposes died at WM17, although you can make the argument that everything from WM17 through to the start of the brand split was still part of it to an extent. I think WWE themselves even say it ran through 2002, they continued using the Attitude branding in the show intros right up until the day Vince uttered the words "Ruthless Aggression".

But still, it's been at least 16 years ago that it ended. Rapidly approaching 2 decades. And yet we still have Triple H and The Undertaker in prime Mania slots every year.

[Evil Vito]

I actually forgot just how young Orton was when he started. He was only 22 when he debuted on television and he'd already been in development for a year or two. He's still only 38 years old.

[RP]

I actually forgot just how young Orton was when he started. He was only 22 when he debuted on television and he'd already been in development for a year or two. He's still only 38 years old.

" only 38 years old. "

This makes me feel young. Thanks Vito.

[slik]

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[rob11]

The Attitude Era for all intents and purposes died at WM17, although you can make the argument that everything from WM17 through to the start of the brand split was still part of it to an extent. I think WWE themselves even say it ran through 2002, they continued using the Attitude branding in the show intros right up until the day Vince uttered the words "Ruthless Aggression".

But still, it's been at least 16 years ago that it ended. Rapidly approaching 2 decades. And yet we still have Triple H and The Undertaker in prime Mania slots every year.
To me The Attitude Era went from WM14 to WM17. The New Generation Era ended at Survivor Series 96. From 96-98 I always think of it as The Pre-Attitude Era where things slowly were setting up for it. After 17, WCW was gone, and Austin turned heel. Once Austin turned, it was over. Between WM17, and the invasion, there were some PPV's with great matches. They had a very deep roster. The Angle vs Benoit feud was amazing.

They never built anyone up after Cena except for Roman so this is what they get. They have to rely on guys way past their prime.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kane also had his "thank you" run with the World Heavyweight Title in 2010. Almost a decade ago. Five years later he was a featured antagonist in a Royal Rumble.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Kane also had his "thank you" run with the World Heavyweight Title in 2010. Almost a decade ago. Five years later he was a featured antagonist in a Royal Rumble.

Such a white person thing to say.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

LOL Just busting balls, Noid.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Lacey Evans is pretty good, just in case any of you were wondering. Really flourishing as a heel.

[Sixx]

Lacey Evans is pretty good, just in case any of you were wondering. Really flourishing as a heel.

I haven't slept in 3 days and read it "flourishing in head" and was go whooooooooooaaaah.

Disappointed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't keep my Laceys in wrestling straight.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, just reading up on her: She was in the marnes and her staff sergeant promoted indy shows on the side. He invited her along and then booked her to wrestle him in the main event of the second show she attended. Of course he did.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Daniel Cormier did a recent interview where he sounded very WWE-friendly. I know the guy is a fan of professional wrestling, but do you think it's only a matter of time until he makes the jump?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Lol, just reading up on her: She was in the marnes and her staff sergeant promoted indy shows on the side. He invited her along and then booked her to wrestle him in the main event of the second show she attended. Of course he did.

Haha, super skep

[Anybody Thrilla]

Daniel Cormier did a recent interview where he sounded very WWE-friendly. I know the guy is a fan of professional wrestling, but do you think it's only a matter of time until he makes the jump?

It's only a matter of time before he teams with Brock Lesnar, only to lose to The Revival.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I haven't slept in 3 days and read it "flourishing in head" and was go whooooooooooaaaah.

Disappointed.

Yeah, I probably could have supported that cause too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Big spoiler from NXT:

Tommaso Ciampa defeated Aleister Black to become the NXT Champion.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Why the fuck was Mr. Hughes in the first King of the Ring tournament?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just heard a clip from Raw between Sasha and Bayley. :lol:

[Jordan]

Daniel Cormier did a recent interview where he sounded very WWE-friendly. I know the guy is a fan of professional wrestling, but do you think it's only a matter of time until he makes the jump?

Cormier is a big WWE fan, can't ever talk with Ariel without it coming up. I do think there is a possible WWE program after he retires, especially if Cain Valesquez gets involved and especially if he defeats Lesnar at UFC next year. The reason I mentioned Cain is because that has been rumored off and on a few times plus he was at NXT tapings this week, as a fan or backstage I do not know.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wonder if the WWE would make Velasquez cover up his "Brown Pride" tattoo? I can honestly see Vince wanting to segue into Brock vs. Velasquez and Brock vs. Cormier at WrestleMania events in order to bulk them up. I can see Vince thinking of them as "celebrity involvement" and seeing the perceived success he is having with Ronda Rousey tipping his tastes in that direction.

[Jordan]

Well Brown Pride doesn't represent hate where as white pride does so I don't think it's an issue.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well Brown Pride doesn't represent hate where as white pride does so I don't think it's an issue.

It depends on what WWE thinks though. Didn't they cover up MVP largely because he had a Malcolm X tattoo?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think they would because Cain is a name.

[Frank Drebin]

Anyone have an opinion on which Gail Kim vs Awesome Kong match was the best? That or just the best Kong match to see?

[GD]

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[Evil Vito]

Speaking of MVP, I still can't believe that WWE bothered to bring him back for Raw 25 just to have him sit in the background in a backstage segment. The Rumble was just days away and he almost certainly would've gotten a really nice reaction as opposed to any number of people in that match where the fans sat on their hands when they entered.

[Jordan]

Well... I don't have much of an opinion on MVP at Raw 25 but I am interested in knowing what is up with him? I read that he was cut from MLW quietly, I wonder what happened? People seem to not get a long with him well.

[erickman]

Well... I don't have much of an opinion on MVP at Raw 25 but I am interested in knowing what is up with him? I read that he was cut from MLW quietly, I wonder what happened? People seem to not get a long with him well.

yeah he is running out of wrestling companys

[Malfeitor]

Just scored tickets to the WarGames show in November. So stoked.

[Jordan]

Just scored tickets to the WarGames show in November. So stoked.

Awesome. I was a little jealous when I saw that you guys were getting WarGames. I'm going to Takeover Brooklyn, but now that card is stacking up to be awesome so I'm feeling better. WarGames last year was awesome, should be a sight to see for sure.

[Malfeitor]

Awesome. I was a little jealous when I saw that you guys were getting WarGames. I'm going to Takeover Brooklyn, but now that card is stacking up to be awesome so I'm feeling better. WarGames last year was awesome, should be a sight to see for sure.

Damn! That triple threat match should be a banger.

[Jordan]

Holy shit this could be really happening.... Can you imagine anyone more legit and a bigger draw in Mexico???

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was an honor to have former <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ufc</a> Heavyweight Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/cainmma?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cainmma</a> in the ring with the <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENXT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWENXT</a> Superstars this week at the <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEPerformCtr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEPerformCtr</a>! <a href="https://t.co/AWu6LLvrSi">https://t.co/AWu6LLvrSi</a></p>&mdash; Performance Center (@WWEPerformCtr) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEPerformCtr/status/1019961691172466689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Innovator]

And who else is part of AKA with Cain? DC

[Anybody Thrilla]

It would be cool to get all those UFC guys in WWE. Will they all just be pushed to the moon right away or what, though?

Also, didn't know that WarGames was an annual thing now. Not mad about it.

A casual fan friend of mine was watching Moustache Mountain v. Undisputed Era with me, and he was amazed that wrestlers can go that long without ever taking a drink of water. Is that weird to you guys? If anything, they mock water by spitting it out (HHH).

[Jordan]

I always think about water in long matches, Kenny sometimes takes a powder for a sip.

[Innovator]

That's why he horrible, he can't even properly hydrate himself /Noid

[Anybody Thrilla]

A powder?

[Jordan]

The muscle contortion of his face is actually the early onset of dehydration someone get Kenny a fucking water!

[Jordan]

A powder?

When a worker rolls out of the ring, usually for heat ala Kevin Owens.

[#1-norm-fan]

Speaking of which, I just got access to AXS and watched that 2 out of 3 falls match between Omega and Okada. Loved it. Cornette (and Noid) really should ease up on Omega.

[#1-norm-fan]

The moment near the end after Kenny hit the One Winged Angel but couldn't go for the pin and they ended up just laying next to each other with their heads propped up on the bottom rope for a bit. Fucking fantastic.

[Innovator]

No fan he was a comedy wrestler 8 years ago. People can't change. FUCK EM

[Jordan]

Dude that match is the best I've ever seen. It was incredible.

[Innovator]

It was amazing, each fall was its own match and didn't feel 70 minutes

[Jordan]

It was amazing, each fall was its own match and didn't feel 70 minutes

I have already seen it three times I was in awe of it. I'm always into wrestling but that match got me like REALLY into wrestling again.

[Evil Vito]

I got up to watch that whole show live and that match shot me with such an adrenaline boost. I went out for a run after.

[#1-norm-fan]

And I don't think there was a single kickout of a finisher. Crazy concept nowadays.

JR actually pushed the fact that Omega has kicked out of Okada's finisher but Okada hasn't kicked out of Omega's and it wasn't just to build up Okada kicking out of Omega's finisher.

[#1-norm-fan]

It added something to Omega going for it so many times. Normally it might be "Why the fuck is he so desperate to hit that move that gets kicked out of 5 times a match?" Instead it made total sense.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

on the Noid scale that match of the century only has 2.5 out of 4 stars, compared to Tully and Arn versus R & R express from 1986 which garnered 18 out of 4 stars.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wouldn't mind watching Tully and Arn vs R & R Express, tho!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

of course not.

[slik]

At least one person cosplaying as former tag champion Nicholas at Comic Con so far:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/907zoz/cosplaying_as_nicholas_at_comiccon/

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Slikbait

[Emperor Smeat]

Current SummerSlam spoilers in regards to Lesnar's match:

On next week’s WWE Raw, Bobby Lashley will face Roman Reigns, with the winner moving on to face Brock Lesnar for the Universal title at Summerslam. According to cagesideseats.com, the current plan is for Roman Reigns to defeat Bobby Lashley and go on to win the Universal championship from Brock Lesnar at Summerslam.

[owenbrown]

Current SummerSlam spoilers in regards to Lesnar's match:




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[Mr. Nerfect]

That's why he horrible, he can't even properly hydrate himself /Noid

Nah, his stamina is fine. It's his mugging that is horrible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Speaking of which, I just got access to AXS and watched that 2 out of 3 falls match between Omega and Okada. Loved it. Cornette (and Noid) really should ease up on Omega.

I think Cornette's "he should be ran out of the business" is a bit much. Just because everyone in wrestling has done shit like that (and a large part of why no one really draws). But I think his objective assessment on the guy's skills are right on the money. He's a great athlete who can pull off moves, but is kind of spotty when it comes to telling a story. Haven't seen that 2/3 Falls Match though. Saw the first one between them and thought it was very good/lower-g great. Lots of spots that took me out of the match. I don't remember anything else about the match though, except that Omega didn't hit his finish.

I sincerely preferred Styles and Cena from the same month. So that "six star match" wasn't even the best for its fucking month for me. I think that's WWE fatigue setting in on people and causing them to overrate anything they find slightly enjoyable (Braun Strowman, Alexa Bliss, Elias, a lot of New Japan, etc.). I'm glad people are finding fun, but I don't accept objective arguments that Kenny Omega is the greatest wrestler in the world. Sorry. He got upstaged by CJ Parker at a recent show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

on the Noid scale that match of the century only has 2.5 out of 4 stars, compared to Tully and Arn versus R & R express from 1986 which garnered 18 out of 4 stars.

:roll:

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE could be facing a similar PR problem that Kenny Omega had to deal with for the CEO X NJPW event. Same sex offender was reported to have been hanging around NXT during the recent TV tapings there.

Unlike with Omega's claims, WWE might be more aware of this guy due to his girlfriend (Amber Nova) currently works for the company.

[Droford]

Current SummerSlam spoilers in regards to Lesnar's match:




Braun Cash in probability at 1000%? Or else there might be a legit riot

[Jordan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/tonyschiavone24?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tonyschiavone24</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WHWMonday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WHWMonday</a> awesome to meet you Tony, great show <a href="https://twitter.com/MLW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BattleRiot?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BattleRiot</a> <a href="https://t.co/SG8IdZCDrh">pic.twitter.com/SG8IdZCDrh</a></p>&mdash; Jordan (@Biff_Jordan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Biff_Jordan/status/1020144436943245312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Just got back from MLW Battle Riot. It was a really fun show, it will air in two weeks I think you should all give it a shot!

[Juan]

Hello there, short shorts

[Droford]

Schiavonne was on busted open for an hour on Thursday..happy he's back in the business

[Shadrick]

Hello there, short shorts

ooo la la

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/tonyschiavone24?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tonyschiavone24</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WHWMonday?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WHWMonday</a> awesome to meet you Tony, great show <a href="https://twitter.com/MLW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BattleRiot?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BattleRiot</a> <a href="https://t.co/SG8IdZCDrh">pic.twitter.com/SG8IdZCDrh</a></p>&mdash; Jordan (@Biff_Jordan) <a href="https://twitter.com/Biff_Jordan/status/1020144436943245312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Just got back from MLW Battle Riot. It was a really fun show, it will air in two weeks I think you should all give it a shot!

I watched some MLW briefly on Youtube and honestly Schiavonne's commentary was fan-fucking-tastic. You remove the bullshit handcuffs of trying to get WCW in its dying days and the guy is incredible.

[Bad News Gertner]

Tony was pretty awful in general from 99-01

[#1-norm-fan]

Didn't watch regularly near the end of WCW but I can't imagine there was much to sink his teeth into while calling Viagra on a Pole matches and whatnot.

I always enjoyed Tony. He gets a bad rap.

[Bad News Gertner]

He definitely does. People focus in on his work in the dying days of WCW, but he was terrific prior to then.

[Cool King]

The WWE has finally uploaded the theme we've all been waiting for.

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[Innovator]

1/10. Not Battle Scars

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He definitely does. People focus in on his work in the dying days of WCW, but he was terrific prior to then.

"Hulk Hogan you can go to hell, straight to hell" was probably the best closing commentary line in the history of our great sport.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Braun Cash in probability at 1000%? Or else there might be a legit riot

Pussy WWE fans don't riot. They say they will but they are just pussies.

[Jordan]

The thing that makes me love Tony so much is when his podcast came out I quickly realized that he has the most irreverent sense of humor of anyone in the wrestling. He is so quick to make fun of himself. He is honest about when he thinks he was phoning it in as well. What Happened When is by far my favorite podcast, and it's a great way to go back and enjoy WCW with a different much more comical perspective. You'll also find out how much of a fan Tony is of the sport, going back to his youth, which makes his entire career much more meaningful to me. He left with a bad run at the end of WCW but now has this amazing podcast and is doing great work for MLW. Maybe it's my revisionist nostalgia but when I go back and watch 90's WWF/WCW, I'd prefer to listen to Tony any day. JR is so damn angry all the time. Still the best don't get me wrong, but the counter to JR was Tony and he was totally different.

[LibSuperstar]

The thing that makes me love Tony so much is when his podcast came out I quickly realized that he has the most irreverent sense of humor of anyone in the wrestling. He is so quick to make fun of himself. He is honest about when he thinks he was phoning it in as well. What Happened When is by far my favorite podcast, and it's a great way to go back and enjoy WCW with a different much more comical perspective. You'll also find out how much of a fan Tony is of the sport, going back to his youth, which makes his entire career much more meaningful to me. He left with a bad run at the end of WCW but now has this amazing podcast and is doing great work for MLW. Maybe it's my revisionist nostalgia but when I go back and watch 90's WWF/WCW, I'd prefer to listen to Tony any day. JR is so damn angry all the time. Still the best don't get me wrong, but the counter to JR was Tony and he was totally different.

That's what makes it so great.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He definitely does. People focus in on his work in the dying days of WCW, but he was terrific prior to then.

yep 100 per cent. He was god awful in 99-01... but it's barely his fault. How the fuck are you supposed to call that shit?

[Mr. Nerfect]

A little thing I've been chewing over in regards to the commentary of Tony Schiavone versus Jim Ross', is that Ross would call shit out when it didn't make sense. He had this "Well, this is going to be bowling shoe ugly" attitude towards matches that didn't work, or angles that didn't make sense. As a result, whether consciously or not, I think fans learnt to "trust" JR. If something sucked, he would let them know, and when something was awesome, the passion was contagious.

It's not that Schiavone can't call or add to things when he needs to. WCW sucked so much that I think beyond simply not caring or being burnt out or whatever, you only have so much cache you can chew through before people stop trusting a word you say. To earn more of that trust from audiences, he would need to point out that most of WCW didn't make sense, and that we were all stupid for not watching the WWF. It turned him into a dishonest used car salesman trying to offload stock from years ago.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Stephanie McMahon is going to make a "historic announcement" on Raw. Rumors suggest it being an all-woman PPV in September/October. In a perfect world, that would get me excited, because it means that you'd need to have depth and stories in your division. What it will likely mean is Alexa Bliss vs. Ronda Rousey in a rematch, Nia Jax vs. Mickie James, Carmella vs. Charlotte, etc.

[Cool King]

So the days of December to Dismember 2006 having the lowest buyrate in WWE history are numbered then.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So the days of December to Dismember 2006 having the lowest buyrate in WWE history are numbered then.

Well, it would be beaten if people actually bought what they call PPVs these days.

[Bad News Gertner]

So I had a crown done on a tooth today. Pretty routine work, but I'm selling it at work like I'm Dick Murdoch so they took me off the phones and now I'm spending my day listening to Jim Cornette's Drive Thru and renaming files at my desk.

Just gotta wince every once in a while, talk without opening my mouth and touch the right side of my face.

[Fignuts]

Hell yeah dude. I went back to work after getting some work done and kept the cotton in my mouth, and acted like I got thrown off the hell in a cell, even though it was pretty painless.

Management was very impressed lol

[Emperor Smeat]

So the days of December to Dismember 2006 having the lowest buyrate in WWE history are numbered then.

Think its already been broken several times because of the Network.

Then again probably depends if you count a Network sub as a PPV buyer even if he/she didn't actually watch the event.

[Emperor Smeat]

Pre-finished image and details of WWE's long rumored Women's Tag Team championship belts.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These are so ������ <a href="https://t.co/7O9VANxx0Y">pic.twitter.com/7O9VANxx0Y</a></p>&mdash; casey michael ��️█�� (@ifyouseekcasey) <a href="https://twitter.com/ifyouseekcasey/status/1020453228297760768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Bad News Gertner]

yep 100 per cent. He was god awful in 99-01... but it's barely his fault. How the fuck are you supposed to call that shit?

Making fun of Tenay for talking about Mexican Wrestling History, calling shit like " a trash can doesn't hurt" during a hardcore match is Tony not caring. That's his fault. He became a caricature of himself

[Bad News Gertner]

Wow, I had to edit the spelling of "caricature" three times lol. A little too baked right now.

Spelled it "characture" the first time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Making fun of Tenay for talking about Mexican Wrestling History, calling shit like " a trash can doesn't hurt" during a hardcore match is Tony not caring. That's his fault. He became a caricature of himself

oh for sure. He'd laugh during hardcore matches too. He was bad. But I think I'd have given up at that point personally.

[#1-norm-fan]

Forgot about that "trash can doesn't hurt" call. I feel like it's come up on his podcast before and he tried to explain it but I'm not positive.

[GD]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm sorry but that meat hook in the pool was glorious. I've watched it like 6 times hahaha

[Bad News Gertner]

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R.I.P Brickhouse Brown. Memphis Wrestling was fucking awesome if you haven't seen any.

Check out the above video for a "he's got AIDS" chant.

[Splaya]

Pre-finished image and details of WWE's long rumored Women's Tag Team championship belts.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Women's Tag Belts: White leather. Similar to the men's tags but with some slight female themed changes. Not confirmed but rumored to be defended among all 4 brands (Raw, SD, NXT and eventually NXT:UK). The new NXT UK belts are not done yet.</p>&mdash; BeltFanDan (@BeltFanDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeltFanDan/status/1020456782114836481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This better not backdoor into an angle where Sasha and Bayley somehow win them

[Evil Vito]

This better not backdoor into an angle where Sasha and Bayley somehow win them

They pretty clearly are.

[Lock Jaw]

Those faces on the belts pretty terrible

[Vastardikai]

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For years, I thought this was the most racist angle I had ever seen. Then I saw Virgil get hanged by Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart and The Thug, the latter wearing a KKK Hood. Holy hell was that some heat, though.

[Cool King]

Those Women's Tag Team Championships look awful.

Also, like most people, I also thought that Sasha & Bayley will be the first to win them. That was my first thought when I saw the image.

If they don't win them, then I can assure you that the first team to win them will be either Becky & Naomi or Becky & Charlotte.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Bad News Gertner]

zvXRh6bXB90

R.I.P Brickhouse Brown. Memphis Wrestling was fucking awesome if you haven't seen any.

Check out the above video for a "he's got AIDS" chant.

So apparently he's still alive

[LibSuperstar]

Shit is wild.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Alexa Bliss, the reason why her in-ring skills and match quality haven't improved since getting called up is pretty much due to being a champion is her only source for heel heat and her laziness for bumping for others.

Its pretty much why nobody comes out looking good in a feud with her in the end since everything revolves on her needing to be in title matches and getting the last laugh instead of helping make others look good in the ring.

Bliss recently spoke to Cheap Seats podcast about whether it bothers her that she doesn't get more credit for the work she does in the ring. She said her character doesn't allow her to do extravagant spots to pop the crowd. Her job is to make people hate her and that's what she does. Bliss explained how she uses her moveset to establish herself as more of a heatseeker in as many levels as possible. Things could always change if she becomes a babyface, but that's not her job at the moment.

"I don't, but here's the thing, I'm a bad guy. Who likes a bad guy that does a lot of flashy things? You know what I mean? It is my job to be hated, so if that means coming in when the opportunity is right and cashing in on other people's misfortunes in the ring that is what I am going to do.

"Now, when I become a good guy, are people going to see a brand new skill set from me? Absolutely. Right now, my job isn't to wow the crowd with my in-ring ability, my job is to be hated, which is what I love to do. My job is to be hated because people get that much madder when I win a title because they talk about me not being able to wrestle in the ring---I can, but I am choosing not to, and the fact that when I win and they are getting angry that only means that I am doing my job that much more."
Link: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/feral-audio/sklarbro-country

[Mr. Nerfect]

Those Women's Tag belts look awful, as most WWE belts do these days. I hate how they have to look plastic.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey wrestling universe. This morning i up to this, I am not sure how this mistake happened but I wanted to let everyone know that I am alive and well. Also I want to send my condolences to the family of Brickhouse Brown. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPBrickhouseBrown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RIPBrickhouseBrown</a> <a href="https://t.co/A4xBJjPUwn">pic.twitter.com/A4xBJjPUwn</a></p>&mdash; D'Lo Brown (@dlobrown75) <a href="https://twitter.com/dlobrown75/status/1020774368098570240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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:lol:

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol I saw that. And it turns out Brickhouse Brown isn't dead either

[Mr. Nerfect]

D'Lo Brown is hilarious. I mean, the context of this is awful, but other stories involving D'Lo are great.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[Evil Vito]

Matt Riddle to WWE

God dammit

[Lock Jaw]

I don't know who that is.

Apparently it is a bad thing?

[Tom Guycott]

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Just got back from MLW Battle Riot. It was a really fun show, it will air in two weeks I think you should all give it a shot!

Greatest photo-op in the history of our sport.

[Evil Vito]

I don't know who that is.

Apparently it is a bad thing?

He's a former MMA fighter. Only been in wrestling for a few years but I've really liked what I've seen.

And because I like what I've seen, I'm sad to see him go to WWE where interesting characters go to die.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's a former MMA fighter. Only been in wrestling for a few years but I've really liked what I've seen.

And because I like what I've seen, I'm sad to see him go to WWE where interesting characters go to die.

You forgot and get paaaaaaaaaaaid

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yesterday marked the 10-year anniversary of the official start of the WWE PG Era. It's been a long downward spiral (no pun intended) ever since...

[GD]

This better not backdoor into an angle where Sasha and Bayley somehow win them

It was [/Ron Howard]

[DAMN iNATOR]

This better not backdoor into an angle where Sasha and Bayley somehow win them

They'd be the only team that makes sense to become the inaugural champions. They get the tag belts, have tremendous success and then their feud boils over when either they get put into a triple threat for the RAW Women's Championship or one bests the other in a #1 contender's match and one ultimately turns on the other, either to win the belt and "screw" the other out of it or out of jealousy because their partner won it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yesterday marked the 10-year anniversary of the official start of the WWE PG Era. It's been a long downward spiral (no pun intended) ever since...

I dunno -- I'd say things have been going down for a while since then. WWE probably hasn't had a good overall year since 2005, and that was mainly the WrestleMania season I am thinking of. Things would turn grim by the end of the year. I quite liked 2008 for the company, but that might be me cherry-picking stuff I liked to get me through.

I'm really struggling to think of the last truly good year in wrestling. Is it too selective to suggest 2013? Daniel Bryan was killing it in six-man tags against The Shield. SummerSlam 2013 was Cena vs. Bryan and Punk vs. Brock. WrestleMania drew money because you had The Rock there, even though the card felt disjointed. Maybe it's hard to call it a successful year, per se, but there was a lot of good I'd kill for now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The WWE does not have the depth to pull off Women's Tag Team Titles.

[Bad News Gertner]

Nobody cares about Women's wrestling. They are trying to make them way more important than they are.

[screech]

The WWE does not have the depth to pull off Women's Tag Team Titles.

They might if they defend them across RAW, SD, and NXT.

But even then, I'm not sure how many actual/competitive teams there would be (haven't looked at the rosters).

[Innovator]

Matt Riddle to WWE

God dammit

Bro?

[Innovator]

Downside is he can't come out to the remix of Regulate anymore

[Juan]

More posts from Noid about how WWE sucks, please. We don’t get enough of those

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

More posts from Noid about how WWE sucks, please. We don’t get enough of those

If they just let Val Venis and Doug Basham main event ONE Wrestlemania, we wouldn't have to deal with this.

[Big Vic]

“Stephanie won't tell you this herself but she is the driving force behind the women's movement.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

More posts from Noid about how WWE sucks, please. We don’t get enough of those

Maybe if they didn't suck, I wouldn't post about how much they suck?

[Mr. Nerfect]

If they just let Val Venis and Doug Basham main event ONE Wrestlemania, we wouldn't have to deal with this.

:roll: Real contemporary. I tried to use creative crutches because I enjoyed other stuff then too. I've obviously gotten more realistic about what I think would actually help the product, but the symptoms that cause my disenchantment are largely the same.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

:roll: Real contemporary. I tried to use creative crutches because I enjoyed other stuff then too. I've obviously gotten more realistic about what I think would actually help the product, but the symptoms that cause my disenchantment are largely the same.

lol come on man.

[Innovator]

There are so many alternatives readily available for anyone to hate watch a product.

If you hate the main roster, you have NXT, Impact, ROH, NJPW, Lucha Underground, MLW all there streamed.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

but he hates all those things.

[Evil Vito]

That stuff all sucks. Smoky Mountain Wrestling and Ohio Valley Wrestling are the only promotions that are worth watching and still hold up now.

[Bad News Gertner]

SMW was sooooo great. I've gotta watch more OVW. From what I've seen its really great.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

shutup Gertner.

[Jordan]

Matt Riddle to WWE... very good pick. I was hoping that Matt would’ve been the ace for ROH because aside from The Bucks and Cody that promotion is full of guys I just don’t care to see. I would’ve loved to see him get a spot in NJPW but his drug failures make that a no go. Wherever he went that isn’t WWE he could’ve been a major lead player. Not saying he can’t be that in WWE but there is always a risk that they will turn a diamond back into coal.

If you don’t know Matt, he is a combination of RVD/Kerry Von Erich and add in a shooter element to tie it all together.

[Lock Jaw]

Nobody cares about Women's wrestling. They are trying to make them way more important than they are.

I care........

[Gerard]

Nobody cares about Women's wrestling. They are trying to make them way more important than they are.

They have to ride the cock of that social media "women r teh best" trend for all its worth while it's still somewhat relevant.

[Jordan]

There are certain WWE female Superstars that I get pumped to watch... Ronda/Charlotte/Bailey/Sascha/Naomi/Alexa/Nia but all of those girls require solid booking to get my interest. The NXT women have got some great talent but if they aren't put in compelling stories then I'm liable to zone out during their match.

[Jordan]

They did a solid build with Rousey/Nia/Bliss with Mickie James in there as well. Looking forward to keeping that hot and turning it into Rousey's title run.

[Cool King]

Nobody cares about Women's wrestling. They are trying to make them way more important than they are.

I care........

I don't think I've actually truly cared about the Women's Division since around 2006.

There has been "little gems" in the division since, like Beth Phoenix for example but those "little gems" were around in a division that was overall, pretty bad for various reasons.

I've said this before but to me, I think the best period for the Women's Division was 2002-2006.

[Jordan]

I've said this before but to me, I think the best period for the Women's Division was 2002-2006.

Did you watch the break out days of NXT with Bailey and Banks? Just curious, I think that's what got everyone else so pumped.

[Fignuts]

It all pales in comparison to classic AJW

#weaboowrestlingfan

[Cool King]

Did you watch the break out days of NXT with Bailey and Banks? Just curious, I think that's what got everyone else so pumped.

I'm afraid I didn't.

[Lock Jaw]

Just listened to Elias' debut album on Spotify..... was a good way to kill 14 minutes.

[Evil Vito]

VIP box seats for the all-women's PPV should come with a handy from the female superstar of your choice

[Innovator]

Going by the fan bases, Alexa and Becky would have torn rotators pretty quickly

[Cool King]

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dwc5b0b11a/images/large/L20097.jpg

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[Cool King]

They've apparently been selling them for a while now but I've only just noticed that WWE Shop now sell T-shirts for the "larger lady" but they call them "Curvy T-Shirts".

[Fignuts]

Fat chicks aren't curvy. They're lumpy.

[Evil Vito]

Going by the fan bases, Alexa and Becky would have torn rotators pretty quickly

I feel like I would select Ronda and/or Asuka simply because I have a deathwish

[Big Vic]

I feel like I would be more inclined to wear a WWE shirt if they didn't have that huge tag in the bottom right.

[Innovator]

I feel like I would select Ronda and/or Asuka simply because I have a deathwish

Or would you go for one you think would have a lesser line and would be more grateful/less other dick contact?

[Evil Vito]

Or would you go for one you think would have a lesser line and would be more grateful/less other dick contact?

Good point. Becky and Alexa's lines would probably be so long they'd have to go 2 at a time just due to time constraints.

[Evil Vito]

I feel like I would be more inclined to wear a WWE shirt if they didn't have that huge tag in the bottom right.

I'm pretty sure I read someone had figured out a way to lance the tag off

[Cool King]

I feel like I would be more inclined to wear a WWE shirt if they didn't have that huge tag in the bottom right.

I had never came across someone saying that until now and a quick search on Google shows that you're not the only one that isn't a fan of the WWE tag.

What do you not like about it?

I don't understand why someone wouldn't like a WWE tag being on a WWE shirt. :-\

[Bad News Gertner]

I don't think I've actually truly cared about the Women's Division since around 2006.

There has been "little gems" in the division since, like Beth Phoenix for example but those "little gems" were around in a division that was overall, pretty bad for various reasons.

I've said this before but to me, I think the best period for the Women's Division was 2002-2006.

I 100% agree.

[Fignuts]

Not like that shirt is any less embarrassing without the tag.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Maybe if they didn't suck, I wouldn't post about how much they suck?

I mean, you're entitled to your opinions but - (vomits in mouth a bit) I'm with (vomits a bit more ) Juan on this one.

[Emperor Smeat]

I feel like I would be more inclined to wear a WWE shirt if they didn't have that huge tag in the bottom right.

Feel their terrible designs in general or the need for every shirt to have something going on in the back is a bigger issue. Like those two Bliss shirts Cool King posted would be better without the Bliss text in the back.

[Gerard]

Speaking of the women's division, what's the story with rousey? They seem to be using her in tv match terms incredibly sparingly to say the least. Do they not think she's ready for being put in matches on a consistent basis, or is her (rumoured 1 year contract) like Lesnar's and she only has x amount of appearance dates?

[Emperor Smeat]

A mix of them not wanting to rush her in-ring work and lying from the start about her being a full time wrestler.

She's both their biggest mainstream star right now and a big reason why their new tv deals were massive. Last thing WWE wants is to piss off NBC and/or FOX before the new tv deals start by giving her the same star attrition booking almost everyone else gets on the main roster.

[Innovator]

If you use Ronda like every other female wrestler, she becomes just another wrestler

[Savio]

Not like that shirt is any less embarrassing without the tag.

I wasn't talking about that shirt in particular just in general

[Savio]

Please Drew, win

[Jordan]

Controversial words on Twitter tonight...

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[Jordan]

I think it's cool for guys to keep heat on Twitter when they are asshole characters but he took that way too far. Fuck Tama Tonga.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There are so many alternatives readily available for anyone to hate watch a product.

If you hate the main roster, you have NXT, Impact, ROH, NJPW, Lucha Underground, MLW all there streamed.

NXT filters into main roster WWE. I find it hard to invest in their television when I know the end-game and it's becoming a trope cycle. Impact Wrestling is TNA. I saw a clip out of curiosity recently -- Eddie Edwards and Sami Callihan were fighting over a score. ROH has felt very cold to me lately. Nothing against them, but nothing really for them either. Lucha Underground is ridiculous. I haven't watched MLW yet. New Japan are people I am actively rooting for, but I'm worried about taking that big dive, because I've disliked things I've seen, and that might be my last bridge to modern wrestling. I might just catch clips of things I know I'll like.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A big problem for me is that a lot of the stuff I don't like is really en vogue like now. The styles between the products is really not that different.

[Mr. Nerfect]

but he hates all those things.

For a guy who likes to dismiss people as trying to be the "smartest guy in the room," you sure do like to do a lot of speaking on behalf of people.

[Shadrick]

I care........

same here. when they aren't given 2 minutes on a Raw as a filler segment, the matches can be fucking amazing.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

For a guy who likes to dismiss people as trying to be the "smartest guy in the room," you sure do like to do a lot of speaking on behalf of people.

Except my take isn't exactly out of thin air.

[Big Vic]

I had never came across someone saying that until now and a quick search on Google shows that you're not the only one that isn't a fan of the WWE tag.

What do you not like about it?

I don't understand why someone wouldn't like a WWE tag being on a WWE shirt. :-\

Wrestling fans aren't respected in the states.

[Bad News Gertner]

Noid is the only one that gets it

[Big Vic]

For anyone asking if there's ever been an all-men's PPV, here's every WWE PPV that WWE has on the network without a women's match

If at least one woman wrestles on the card as an official participant in a match, then that ppv is excluded from this list. I'm even going to be generous and count it if a match was on Heat or the preshow.

The Wrestling Classic

Wrestlemania III

Wrestlemania IV

Summerslam 1988

Survivor Series 1988

Wrestlemania V

Summerslam 1989

Survivor Series 1989

Royal Rumble 1990

Summerslam 1990 (Sherri defeats Sapphire by forfeit as Sapphire never shows up, so no match here despite it being advertised)

Survivor Series 1990

Royal Rumble 1991

Wrestlemania VII

Summerslam 1991

Survivor Series 1991

This Tuesday in Texas

Royal Rumble 1992

Wrestlemania VIII

Summerslam 1992

Survivor Series 1992

Royal Rumble 1993

Wrestlemania IX

King of the Ring 1993

Summerslam 1993

Survivor Series 1993

Royal Rumble 1994

King of the Ring 1994

Survivor Series 1994

Royal Rumble 1995

Wrestlemania XI

In Your House I

King of the Ring 1995

In Your House 2

In Your House 3

In Your House 4

In Your House 5

Royal Rumble 1996

In Your House 6

Wrestlemania XII

In Your House 7: Good Friends, Better Enemies

In Your House 8: Beware of Dog

King of the Ring 1996

In Your House 9: International Incident

Summerslam 1996

In Your House 10: Mind Games

In Your House 11: Buried Alive

Survivor Series 1996

In Your House 12: It's Time

Royal Rumble 1997

In Your House 13: Final Four

Wrestlemania 13

In Your House 14: Revenge of the 'Taker

In Your House 15: A Cold Day in Hell

King of the Ring 1997

In Your House 16: Canadian Stampede

Summerslam 1997

Ground Zero: In Your House

One Night Only

Badd Blood: In Your House

Survivor Series 1997

D-Generation X: In Your House

Royal Rumble 1998

No Way Out of Texas: In Your House

King of the Ring 1998

Breakdown: In Your House

Judgment Day: In Your House

Rock Bottom: In Your House

Backlash: In Your House

No Way Out 2000

Backlash 2000

Judgment Day 2000

Unforgiven 2000

Insurrextion 2001

King of the Ring 2001

Unforgiven 2001

No Way Out 2002

Vengeance 2002

Summerslam 2002

No Way Out 2003

Summerslam 2003

Summerslam 2004

Royal Rumble 2005

No Way Out 2005

Backlash 2005

Judgment Day 2005

ECW One Night Stand 2005

Summerslam 2005

Armageddon 2005

No Way Out 2006

Vengeance 2006

Summerslam 2006

No Mercy 2006

Armageddon 2006

Royal Rumble 2007

No Way Out 2007

Judgment Day 2007

Cyber Sunday 2007

No Way Out 2008

Cyber Sunday 2008

No Way Out 2009 (there was a pre-show dark match for the women's title)

Judgment Day 2009 (there was a pre-show dark match for the women's title)

Summerslam 2009 (there was a pre-show dark match battle royal)

Breaking Point

Elimination Chamber 2011

Capitol Punishment

Summerslam 2012

Royal Rumble 2013

Wrestlemania 29

Extreme Rules 2013

Royal Rumble 2014

The Greatest Royal Rumble

That's over 110, for those counting along.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Noid is the only one that gets it

I will find you. Then I will stab you.

[Simple Fan]

Impact Wrestling is TNA. I saw a clip out of curiosity recently -- Eddie Edwards and Sami Callihan were fighting over a score.



Impact Wrestling is not TNA. Don Callis and Scott D'Amore have done a great job turning the company around. Slammiversary proved that and TNA is dead, this is iMPACT!