"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/worldheavyweight

Steve Austin or Macho Man Randy Savage were never World Heavyweight Champions :nono:

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Can you read?

[weather vane]

Hey remember when Koko B Ware came out as the Blue Blazer? I cannot find a picture or video of that. It did happen though... Right?

[weather vane]

@ me with answers boys

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hey remember when Koko B Ware came out as the Blue Blazer? I cannot find a picture or video of that. It did happen though... Right?

Yes.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20ty1y_wwf-raw-is-war-01-25-1999-part-2_sport

[The CyNick]

Former WWE writer and widely accepted genius, Andrew Goldstein, recently wrote a piece for the PWTorch where he talked about why wrestling never cracks it into the "cool." Most telling of this man's brilliance is that he points out Fandango getting over a massively missed opportunity.

I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

[SNLfunnyguy]

Goooollldddbbbeeerrrrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w5cpp3FwTE

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Met Goldberg at a hot rod show in San Diego. Really cool guy. Had a nice little conversation with him and my dad about vintage hot rods before getting a picture.

[GD]

http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/worldheavyweight

Steve Austin or Macho Man Randy Savage were never World Heavyweight Champions :nono:

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Can you read?

Sweetheart, the page redirects to the big gold belt. I see that you've been assuming a lot of things as of late.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Shadrick]

I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

lol man

[Volare]

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Oh god the awesome things that would happen.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

Yeah, reading stuff from people who actually worked for the company is a waste of time because it would ruin your bubble. Moron.

[Evil Vito]

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Wonder which one of these people is CyNick

[Evil Vito]

Bet like 80% of those people aren't even with the company anymore, actually. I saw Gaburick in there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn't read the article, because it sounds like a waste of time.

But is this guy's assertion that Fandango wad "cool"? I would argue Fandango represents everything that makes wrestling seem uncool.

Fandango was presented by the WWE in a way that was uncool, you fucking moron. God, could you be any dumber? Losing my patience with this gimmick.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

Would make a good sitcom

Powerful/strong/macho/COO of global entertainment company trying to balance that with living in a house full of girls

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently modern era NXT had a pilot episode that's never been shown. The code name for that episode was "Project H" and went through several revisions before actual tapings.

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[Volare]

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NEW NEVER OPEN WEIGHT 6 MAN CHAMPIONS!!!!......and a challenge!!

[Volare]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMspppVAAAEDzf.jpg:medium

So.....who will be the first champion of the 3....and by that I mean World Champion not Divas.

[Evil Vito]

https://streamable.com/19jq

[Emperor Smeat]

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[owenbrown]

I thought that was Hogan for a second there :wtf:

[James Steele]

Would make a good sitcom

Powerful/strong/macho/COO of global entertainment company trying to balance that with living in a house full of girls

I'd watch it. Too bad "King of Queens" has already been used.

[Droford]

Last Man Standing with Tim Allen better example

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

King of Queens is a show people actually liked.

[Lock Jaw]

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Finn Bayley

[The CyNick]

Yeah, reading stuff from people who actually worked for the company is a waste of time because it would ruin your bubble. Moron.

If you told me Vince, Hunter or Kevin Dunn wrote something, I would be interested. Some guy who got coffee for Vince, meh I'll pass.

And especially if the point of the article is Fandango is cool. Makes me think waste of time. But could also be you're just terrible at promoting something.

[The CyNick]

Fandango was presented by the WWE in a way that was uncool, you fucking moron. God, could you be any dumber? Losing my patience with this gimmick.

His gimmick was a joke. You get that right?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Sweetheart, the page redirects to the big gold belt. I see that you've been assuming a lot of things as of late.

Macho man is a 3-time Big Gold Belt haver.

[GD]

WWE's iteration of the World Heavyweight Championship, you adorable goof. Macho Man held the WCW Championship.

[Droford]

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[Volare]

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Finn Bayley

Holy christ he did it. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Volare]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently the reason Damien Sandow sort of disappeared from WWE shows is due to him taking a break away from wrestling to deal with some family issues.

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[Impact!]

Still kind of surprised that the WWE didn't rename AJ Styles BJ Skills

[GD]

Or Eden Stiles' long lost brother, Ajay Stiles.

[Exyle]

Part of me really wants to see everything move forward as expected. Roman beats Triple H clean in the main event of Wrestlemania, no swerve or heel turn, and the crowd absolutely boos the shit out of it. Maybe 100,000 people categorically rejecting Vince McMahon's Roman Reigns project will make him realize what a failure it really is.

[drave]

Vince won't realize it because in his mind, Roman is perfect. It quite literally will not fail because VKM won't let it. And you can believe that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Part of me really wants to see everything move forward as expected. Roman beats Triple H clean in the main event of Wrestlemania, no swerve or heel turn, and the crowd absolutely boos the shit out of it. Maybe 100,000 people categorically rejecting Vince McMahon's Roman Reigns project will make him realize what a failure it really is.
WWE would probably just go overboard with the music and celebrations or turn down the crowd mics once Reigns wins. Make it seem like the crowd's hatred is not as big as it really is.

Reigns has the same problem Ryback had in that the WWE didn't really care about letting him devlop gradually and just skipped the real midcard building needed for both guys.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Vince won't change anything because he doesn't have to. He's going to make piles of money regardless if he pushes talent that's actually universally over or not. It the ten year Cena run tells us anything, especially the initial run where the attitude era fans turned on him in droves and the company transitioned to more family friendly, it's that Vince is a man of conviction and he's not going to change what he wants until presented a valid reason, like getting beat in ratings and losing top talent.

Seeing as that's not gonna happen, it's more likely that things change when Vince let's go, which is probably another 20 years away, when he passes.

[Evil Vito]

Maybe they will add some sort of stipulation like The Authority must step down if Triple H loses (but for REALSIES this time) just to try to raise some sort of doubt that Reigns will win.

In that scenario though you're still likely to get a clean Reigns win followed by the face locker room emptying and hoisting the triumphant Reigns on their shoulders while the announcers gush about it and confetti falls from the ceiling...yet the crowd will STILL boo.

[drave]

First ever REALSIES match :D

Now I wanna hear a promo from both of them talking about their "realisies match"

[Jordan]

I wanted to make a thread about this but there isn't much more to say than...

I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR NAKAMAURA
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[Jordan]

Will he get AJ Stlyes treatment and get to keep his name?

Kana was renamed to Auska which I think was an improvement. Hideo Itami is not really as cool as KENTA but it's not bad either. I think he might get to keep his name considering all the publication of the signing.

[Jordan]

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Best AJ promo since his debut.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Reigns has the same problem Ryback had in that the WWE didn't really care about letting him devlop gradually and just skipped the real midcard building needed for both guys.

I actually dug that about Ryback.

The problem then, was that once he was at "that level", they fucked up, didn't know what to do with him and made him a jobber/heel.

In fact, Ryback going from squash matches/mid-card matches to suddenly going after CM Punk was quite exciting. Gave a legit vibe that anything could happen in WWE.

[Shadrick]

I actually dug that about Ryback.

The problem then, was that once he was at "that level", they fucked up, didn't know what to do with him and made him a jobber/heel.

In fact, Ryback going from squash matches/mid-card matches to suddenly going after CM Punk was quite exciting. Gave a legit vibe that anything could happen in WWE.

When Punk turned around and Ryback was standing there, I marked a little. "Finally, something different" and then...meh.

[Shadrick]

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[Emperor Smeat]

I actually dug that about Ryback.

The problem then, was that once he was at "that level", they fucked up, didn't know what to do with him and made him a jobber/heel.

In fact, Ryback going from squash matches/mid-card matches to suddenly going after CM Punk was quite exciting. Gave a legit vibe that anything could happen in WWE.

Another problem was after a while it became obvious he was just filling in for Cena and not actually get a real promotion or main event push. Lost a lot of momentum once the Punk feud ended and then whatever was left after the Mania loss to Henry and feud loss to Cena.

Ziggler was similar in the sense that his huge win in Survivor Series 2014 led to nothing since he was only filling in for Reigns and was never planned to get a real rub or push from it.

[Shadrick]

MAJOR Raw Spoiler if it's indeed true.

FalconArrow on Reddit said that RAW tonight is going to be worth watching from beginning to end. Said we "Might be getting an early Christmas gift." Current speculation online is that CM Punk is coming back tonight because his bio has been re-added to WWE.com and a couple of days ago Cena uploaded CM Punks longtime twitter avy to his instagram

[Wishbone]

MAJOR Raw Spoiler if it's indeed true.

FalconArrow on Reddit said that RAW tonight is going to be worth watching from beginning to end. Said we "Might be getting an early Christmas gift." Current speculation online is that CM Punk is coming back tonight because his bio has been re-added to WWE.com and a couple of days ago Cena uploaded CM Punks longtime twitter avy to his instagram

Lol if that actually happens I'll eat my hat. Whoever is claiming that is either a moron, or they work for WWE and are trying to bump the ratings.

[The CyNick]

Vince won't realize it because in his mind, Roman is perfect. It quite literally will not fail because VKM won't let it. And you can believe that.

I read a lot of reports of house shows and comments of shows on twitter, and almost every show i read "reigns got the biggest pop of the night". I think there is a disconnect between fans online who just watch the tv and complain vs the paying fans.

[weather vane]

Why don't you ever hear it on TV or PPV's?

[The CyNick]

Another problem was after a while it became obvious he was just filling in for Cena and not actually get a real promotion or main event push. Lost a lot of momentum once the Punk feud ended and then whatever was left after the Mania loss to Henry and feud loss to Cena.

Ziggler was similar in the sense that his huge win in Survivor Series 2014 led to nothing since he was only filling in for Reigns and was never planned to get a real rub or push from it.

Some guys hit their ceiling faster than expected.

I like Ryback from what I've seen of him in shoot interviews. I just don't think he's capable of being THE GUY.

[The CyNick]

Why don't you ever hear it on TV or PPV's?

You do. He always gets a big pop. You just have the 15% of the crowd that are loud and are there to be against whatever the machine is pushing.

He'll end up like Cena. Not everyone will be for him, but he'll get a reaction.

Put it this way. I would rather Roman get the reaction he got during his match than the reaction AJ Styles got during his match.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Actual Raw spoiler

Speculation online is that with Bailey pictures above in a Macho Man shirt, Vince has found a way to raise the dead and Savage will return tonight on Raw.

[Shadrick]

Lol if that actually happens I'll eat my hat. Whoever is claiming that is either a moron, or they work for WWE and are trying to bump the ratings.

great chance its the latter.

[Evil Vito]

I'll be watching Deadpool, so I'll have to check the "big surprise" after.

[Shadrick]

I read a lot of reports of house shows and comments of shows on twitter, and almost every show i read "reigns got the biggest pop of the night". I think there is a disconnect between fans online who just watch the tv and complain vs the paying fans.

Just so I'm clear, you believe what you read online that someone else said, right? That's okay to do, right?

[Shadrick]

I'll be watching Deadpool, so I'll have to check the "big surprise" after.

movie was awesome. so many easter eggs. its hard to keep track of them all.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Either way it might work. Question wtf would they have planned that's anymore interesting than what was going on two years ago.

[The CyNick]

Just so I'm clear, you believe what you read online that someone else said, right? That's okay to do, right?

Shades of grey.

[Wishbone]

Only the stuff that confirms my own idiotic beliefs.

There I fixed that for you, buddy. :y:

[The CyNick]

There I fixed that for you, buddy. :y:

You think it's idiotic that Reigns gets massive pops at house shows?

How many shows have you been to where he gets no reaction?

[Emperor Smeat]

MAJOR Raw Spoiler if it's indeed true.

FalconArrow on Reddit said that RAW tonight is going to be worth watching from beginning to end. Said we "Might be getting an early Christmas gift." Current speculation online is that CM Punk is coming back tonight because his bio has been re-added to WWE.com and a couple of days ago Cena uploaded CM Punks longtime twitter avy to his instagram

From the Observer about when this supposed surprise is meant to happen. The original source on SquaredCircle hinted it was occurring at the end of the show.

I don't know what it is, but was told it's "not at the end, up front," so I'm thinking first segment.

The source at SquaredCircle also confirmed whatever the plan was, it got changed to happen sooner in the show.

[Droford]

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[Wishbone]

Herp derp I believe everything I hear on twitter so long as it agrees with what I believe. I also :heart: Vince McMahon's muscular, leather couch of a body more than anything in the world and will do anything to get him to notice me.

There ya go fixed it again! You're welcome, buddy. :)

[Volare]

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[Savio]

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I was there :)

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just love heel CM Punk.

[drave]

I read a lot of reports of house shows and comments of shows on twitter, and almost every show i read "reigns got the biggest pop of the night". I think there is a disconnect between fans online who just watch the tv and complain vs the paying fans.

I'll entertain you because this place needs the entertainment.

So the "IWC" or "Twitter Machine" or "Online Reports" (from HHH, or VKM Only of course) are okay when they serve your point, mkay ;)

I am (was until a few months ago) a paying fan. I have been to every show that has been in Indy since 92 when I went to WM VII. The product has grown stale for me. It has grown stale because the past 10 years the same formula has been in play with Cena and it is boring to watch, for me.

After seeing the build with Reigns, it is clear that the WWE Universe is in for more of the same. Even taking the kayfabe chest protector out of the equation, Reigns just bounced up at the end of the match as if he hadn't even been in a match. LOLCENAWINS will soon be LOLROMANWINS.

Sure he will garner a reaction, much like that of Cena. For me, personally, I don't want to pay $$$ to see that anymore. I cancelled my network sub yesterday and Shane//Taker isn't good enough to get me to renew.

Gotta love those rights fees that are exploding because of the immense reaction Reigns gets at house shows. WOOOOO!! :shifty:

[The CyNick]

I'll entertain you because this place needs the entertainment.

So the "IWC" or "Twitter Machine" or "Online Reports" (from HHH, or VKM Only of course) are okay when they serve your point, mkay ;)

I am (was until a few months ago) a paying fan. I have been to every show that has been in Indy since 92 when I went to WM VII. The product has grown stale for me. It has grown stale because the past 10 years the same formula has been in play with Cena and it is boring to watch, for me.

After seeing the build with Reigns, it is clear that the WWE Universe is in for more of the same. Even taking the kayfabe chest protector out of the equation, Reigns just bounced up at the end of the match as if he hadn't even been in a match. LOLCENAWINS will soon be LOLROMANWINS.

Sure he will garner a reaction, much like that of Cena. For me, personally, I don't want to pay $$$ to see that anymore. I cancelled my network sub yesterday and Shane//Taker isn't good enough to get me to renew.

Gotta love those rights fees that are exploding because of the immense reaction Reigns gets at house shows. WOOOOO!! :shifty:

So at the end of the day you feel WWE should cater to you over the thousands of people in attendance who are repeat customers. And you awknowledge Roman is getting massive pops at arenas. So why would they stop pushing him? When an audience is dead silent for his matches, then you move on. When crowds dwindle then you move on. Neither has happened. And that's without a true passing of the torch program between Reigns and Cena.

They had another huge crowd for RAW last night. Going to have somewhere close to 100k at Mania. The fans were going absolutely crazy for the closing angle. I can't imagine people there saying they didn't enjoy themselves.

If you don't think all the cool WWE programming on the Network is worth $10 a month, that's great, you made the right call. Lots more people like me still enjoy the product. So who should WWE cater to? Me or you? If enough business metrics are heading south, then you will see changes. But right now, the majority of metrics are improving. So why would they change course?

[Big Vic]

From what I heard the fans were cheering HHH beating Roman Reigns?

Drave is not the only one who stopped watching, many people have, check the ratings.

[drave]

So at the end of the day you feel WWE should cater to you over the thousands of people in attendance who are repeat customers. And you awknowledge Roman is getting massive pops at arenas. So why would they stop pushing him? When an audience is dead silent for his matches, then you move on. When crowds dwindle then you move on. Neither has happened. And that's without a true passing of the torch program between Reigns and Cena.

They had another huge crowd for RAW last night. Going to have somewhere close to 100k at Mania. The fans were going absolutely crazy for the closing angle. I can't imagine people there saying they didn't enjoy themselves.

If you don't think all the cool WWE programming on the Network is worth $10 a month, that's great, you made the right call. Lots more people like me still enjoy the product. So who should WWE cater to? Me or you? If enough business metrics are heading south, then you will see changes. But right now, the majority of metrics are improving. So why would they change course?

I never said they should cater to ME, that would be silly. I just said what they put out no longer interests me. I also believe it would be in their best interests to "take a chance" now and again instead of churning out the same shit on a different day/week/month. A passing of the torch isn't needed, any viewer can see the stark similarities without trying.

I also don't acknowledge Reigns getting massive pops. Ambrose easily gets bigger pops consistently. He gets pops, not massive, and they are LARGELY mixed (hence the Cena reference). I also never said they should stop pushing him, just that it is the same ole formula and boring as fuck.

They can have huge crowds any given night, especially following a PPV. You think the place went nuts because Reigns was getting over or because HHH came off as a fucking badass and more people want to see THAT level of aggression? Surely you are joking if you believe people were cheering for Reigns (unless you REALLY wanna be tongue-in-cheek saying the cheers for him getting his ass beat are cheers regardless) :|

Mania will always sell itself based on name alone, period.

The backlog of content is great, no doubt. It also servers as a reminder that they could do much better if they actually tried harder. When they had competition, they were much better, out of necessity to defeat competition.



TL;DR

They can do what they want (and will regardless). It isn't for me as I don't get any "entertainment" from it anymore and therefore will no longer support them as a business. If they change their game in the future, I'll reconsider.

You also like to spin things and are inconsistent with your "arguments".

[slik]

WrestleMania this year has an early 2000's feel to it. WMX7, WMX8, WMXIX - all fantastic WrestleManias.

Shane/Undertaker will be Taker's most entertaining match in years. It will be like Undertaker/Flair at WrestleMania was - except Shane is more agile and takes bumps.

[Evil Vito]

I have my doubts that a 46 year old Shane McMahon who hasn't wrestled in 6 years and has three kids is going to be taking all that many bumps.

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[Volare]

Figured he would've done one of these a while ago....

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[road doggy dogg]

bunch of old wrestlers who feel compelled to do "shoot interviews" seem like the dumbest fucking people alive

[Shadrick]

From what I heard the fans were cheering HHH beating Roman Reigns?

Drave is not the only one who stopped watching, many people have, check the ratings.

cynick will ignore it.

[Bad News Gertner]

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[Ruien]

I'll entertain you because this place needs the entertainment.

So the "IWC" or "Twitter Machine" or "Online Reports" (from HHH, or VKM Only of course) are okay when they serve your point, mkay ;)

I am (was until a few months ago) a paying fan. I have been to every show that has been in Indy since 92 when I went to WM VII. The product has grown stale for me. It has grown stale because the past 10 years the same formula has been in play with Cena and it is boring to watch, for me.

After seeing the build with Reigns, it is clear that the WWE Universe is in for more of the same. Even taking the kayfabe chest protector out of the equation, Reigns just bounced up at the end of the match as if he hadn't even been in a match. LOLCENAWINS will soon be LOLROMANWINS.

Sure he will garner a reaction, much like that of Cena. For me, personally, I don't want to pay $$$ to see that anymore. I cancelled my network sub yesterday and Shane//Taker isn't good enough to get me to renew.

Gotta love those rights fees that are exploding because of the immense reaction Reigns gets at house shows. WOOOOO!! :shifty:

It will still be Kurt vs Taker. No idea how but it will be.

[Savio]

It would make sense if Undertaker came out on monday and told vince "No". being that Vince is a face n all.

"I won't fight for you, I will fight for Shane"

[Sepholio]

Taker refusing to do Vince's dirty work would be an interesting spin on this.

I just hate to think this could be Takers last match. The only good thing is that he will prob be the one carrying the match and it will make him look better in a sense. That's obviously in contrast to the last few years where he has to get carried by his opponent and usually looks pretty rough in the process.

But yea, I could see Taker refusing and then Vince forcing him to do the match with the added stipulation that if Taker doesn't win he is forced to retire. That would be Vince's insurance to make sure Taker fights for real and doesn't just let Shane win.

[Lock Jaw]

It will still be Kurt vs Taker. No idea how but it will be.

Kurt wins and then we build up to next year Kurt vs. Brock at Mania as "the only two to defeat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania"

[GD]

Did Nattie lose weight?

[Mr. Nerfect]

If you told me Vince, Hunter or Kevin Dunn wrote something, I would be interested. Some guy who got coffee for Vince, meh I'll pass.

And especially if the point of the article is Fandango is cool. Makes me think waste of time. But could also be you're just terrible at promoting something.

Lol. You're a joke.

[Mr. Nerfect]

EDIT: I'm not longer going to interact with CyNick. It's funny, but feeding the trolls.

[harmsway]

King of Queens is a show people actually liked.

Nobody liked that shit

[Shisen Kopf]

WrestleMania this year has an early 2000's feel to it. WMX7, WMX8, WMXIX - all fantastic WrestleManias.

Shane/Undertaker will be Taker's most entertaining match in years. It will be like Undertaker/Flair at WrestleMania was - except Shane is more agile and takes bumps.

Guess who was at WMX8?

[Blue Demon]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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Monday’s 2/22 episode of WWE RAW drew 3.884 million viewers, up from last week’s 3.46 million.

The show featured fallout from WWE Fastlane, the surprise return of Shane McMahon and several major developments for Wrestlemania 32. Here’s the hourly breakdown, courtesy of ShowbuzzDaily.com:

Hour 1: 4.201 million
Hour 2: 4.055 million
Hour 3: 3.396 million
Around 423k more viewers than last week but the 3rd hour had a drop of around 800k. In terms of historical stuff, same week last year had around 240k more viewers. In terms of more historical stuff, it took until June of last year before one of the hours went under 3.5 million while its happened 4 times this year so far.

WWE shook things up in a big way on Monday night with the surprise return of Shane McMahon. After a memorable confrontation with Vince and Stephanie McMahon, it was announced that Shane will face The Undertaker at WrestleMania 32 inside Hell in a Cell. If Shane wins, he gets control of WWE. If The Undertaker wins, Vince’s debt to Shane for bailing him out several years ago is forgiven.

Shane vs. Undertaker HIAC is one of those ‘wildcard’ matches that nobody saw coming but one that will add some much needed interest and star power to a card plagued by injuries. Here’s the latest on how this deal came together, courtesy of Dave Meltzer at f4wonline.com:

Longtime fans know this “WrestleMania match for control of WWE” has been talked about for years now. Originally it would have been Triple H representing the Authority against a surrogate of Vince McMahon’s, either The Rock of Steve Austin. The plan had been nixed in the past because Vince didn’t want to be on TV.

The deal between Vince and Shane was brokered just a few weeks ago. Shane currently does not have any management position in the company and is solely an on-air talent at this time. Even though he still has a major role with You On Demand (Chinese media company), he’s Shane is based out of New York and could theoretically be at television each week.

Shane’s promo was very much based on real circumstances within the McMahon family. There was a time that Shane legitimately felt he was in line to take over WWE but Vince ultimately made it very clear that Stephanie and Triple H would be running the company, which is a big part of what led to his departure.

Meltzer also noted cryptically that there’s something behind the fact that Triple H was not part of that opening segment.
Supposedly the Observer implied the Shane vs Vince storyline had been something the WWE wanted to do going as far back as the Road to Mania 30. Also supposedly a big reason why the real life split happened was due to Vince favoring Stephanie to be in control of Creative back in the day and refusing to split the company between Shane (business side) and Stephanie (Creative side).

In a further update to the shocking events of last night, Dave Metlzer of Wrestling Observer Radio reports the storyline was originally supposed to take place two years ago with Triple H vs. an opponent of Vince McMahon's choosing, which would have ultimately been Steve Austin or The Rock. The match would have been for power and control of WWE but Vince nixed plans for the storyline because he wasn't keen on being on television at the time. The major storyline leading into that WrestleMania ended up being The Authority vs. Daniel Bryan, who went on to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

WWE has indeed changed their PPV schedule.

WWE Payback, initially set for 5/22, will now take place on 5/1. We have not confirmed the city or venue as of this writing.

WWE Extreme Rules has been pushed back from late April to 5/22 in Newark, NJ..
Some recent changes the WWE made to their ppv schedule this year.

Ring of Honor announced today that the way they are handling Friday's TV title situation is doing a three-way match with new champion Tomohiro Ishii facing the original two wrestlers who were scheduled to battle, former champion Roderick Strong and Bobby Fish ...

There was question as to whether Ishii vs. Hirooki Goto, originally scheduled on the card, would become the title mach, or if Ishii would face Strong, since an angle on the Saturday night show at Korakuen Hall indicated that. But today they announced he three-way ...

The companies 14th anniversary show will be from a sold out Sam's Town Casino Arena in Las Vegas on Friday February 26th, headlined by Jay Lethal defending the ROH title in a three-way against Kyle O'Reilly and Adam Cole.


There’s a presale now through tomorrow, Thursday 11:59 P.M. for WWE Payback (well, Ticketmaster is now listing it as Extreme Rules) in Newark, New Jersey on Sunday May 22nd. WWEPC is the presale code.
Figured that might be interested for those in the area and wanted to go to the event.

The trial in Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit against Gawker is now just two weeks away. Going into the trial, a few issues are still outstanding with regards to the trial:

* Hogan is trying to get anything that is the product of the original illegally made recordings of Hogan removed from the record entirely. Gawker and major media organizations who filed as intervenors, are, of course, both opposed.

* Hogan filed a number of motions on both that issue as well as issues like trying to get evidence about past Gawker controversies admitted at trial, seemingly trying to get Gawker’s defense thrown out, and more, which Gawker is of course opposing and filed a number of position statements on.


Some other sheet news includes:

Lucha Underground announced they will be hosting a live show during next month's SXSW event in Austin, Texas. https://twitter.com/luchaelrey/status/702162723468091392
NXT tag team Dash & Dawson are getting renamed as "The Revival." Would be their third team name since forming with the original name being The Mechanics.
Could just be a typo or possible sign of post-Mania plans but Ticketmaster recently revealed an upcoming RAW show in May is currently titled as "WWE Monday Night RAW vs WWE." Assuming its not a typo, could be looking at a possible new brand split or even "invasion"-like civil war storyline for the big post-Mania story. http://www.ticketmaster.com/wwe-monday-night-raw-vs-wwe-baltimore-maryland-05-23-2016/event/15004F8AE1514B5C
Xavier Woods was a recent guest for Hot Pepper Gaming and gave a review for Street Fighter V while eating a hot pepper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgv881gtSb0
According to the Observer, WWE title match at Mania currently rumored to involve a guest ref with Bastista as the original option before he declined the offer. https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/701962503459188736
Recent press conference Shinsuke Nakamura had revealed he is currently trying to keep his NJPW name in the WWE although will be getting a new theme. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/677417-news-from-shinsuke-nakamuras-wwe-press-conference-what-nakamura-told-wwe-officials-entrance-music-note-and-more
New DLC pack for WWE 2k16 was released today which includes several new matches featuring WWE Hall of Famers. Online retailer Amazon is currently holding a sale for the game for $40.

[slik]

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[Poit]

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He said TNA!

[weather vane]

You do. He always gets a big pop. You just have the 15% of the crowd that are loud and are there to be against whatever the machine is pushing.

He'll end up like Cena. Not everyone will be for him, but he'll get a reaction.

Put it this way. I would rather Roman get the reaction he got during his match than the reaction AJ Styles got during his match.

Dumb.

[Poit]

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[Lock Jaw]

NXT Season 3 was just so bizarre

[harmsway]

Ojuanbrown I have an announcement. ..... one fine sir bad news getter trumped all your negativity. He outranks you

[Disturbed316]

Shinsuke Nakamura absolutely has to keep his name, it's already too well known to be changed, like Samoa Joe or AJ Styles.

[Impact!]

Is the original nxt on the network? :?:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

bunch of old wrestlers who feel compelled to do "shoot interviews" seem like the dumbest fucking people alive

They apparently get paid pretty well for a days work when they do them. I'd shoot on all y'all for 4 figures.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Who am I kidding, I'd do it for a pint.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope the WWE realizes that the reason Shane McMahon got a big pop isn't just for nostalgia. It's because they want to see a different direction for WWE programming.

[Ruien]

If Shane is around though I am sure he will get a say in what should go on. No idea if his ideas will be good or not.

[Mercenary]

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[Jari]

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[Mercenary]

That's great

[Evil Vito]

It sounds insane to be making this criticism after years of complaining that there wasn't enough wrestling on WWE TV, but there's no reason Ambrose and Owens need to wrestle anyone every week. Looking back to the Attitude Era, if you want to take that as the "standard", does anyone remember the two minute, insignificant midcard TV matches that lead to the pay-per-view matches, or do they remember the angles? Does anyone remember any of the Val Venis matches that Kaientai got involved in, or do they just remember "choppy choppy your pee pee"?

Tyler Breeze is, to me, the biggest example of how badly they're missing the point. Breeze shouldn't be wrestling every week, but he should absolutely be on TV every week. Show vignettes of him at photoshoots or in exotic locations, get him seats at genuine fashion events and show footage of that, have him come out to the ring to unveil a new photoshoot or new line of clothing. And that's for a character with an easily represented, easy to understand gimmick ready made, but what could you do with characters without that? You flesh them out. You teach the audience who they are, what they're all about. Aside from a dumb hairdo, crazy bumps, and gear that would be befitting of a CAW version of Shawn Michaels...what is Dolph Ziggler?

The whole point of wrestling-as-entertainment is that you have all these larger than life characters interacting with one another, but where's the appeal in that if their interactions are all the same? Wrestling match after wrestling match after wrestling match every week does nothing to embrace the appeal of these characters.

[Big Vic]

I think that's why a lot of people became a fan of Daniel Bryan after his WHC match with Sheamus at mania. He might not have been wrestling every week but his character was constantly being developed.

[Volare]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Poit]

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[drave]

Best thing they have going at the moment.

[Tom Guycott]

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Goes on to be undefeated at Wrestlemania and surpasses the streak

[Tom Guycott]

Shinsuke Nakamura absolutely has to keep his name, it's already too well known to be changed, like Samoa Joe or AJ Styles.

You're saying this about a company who changed KENTA, tried to legit kayfabe pass off Albert as some Japanese badass instead of a clearly white guy who everyone knows existed in WWE before, and vehemently insists TNA doesn't exist, most notably when talking about careers of AJ Styles, Sting, or Christian.

Glad they seem to be getting away from 100% needing to own an arbitrary name of people coming in with some buzz behind them, but it still isn't out of the realm of possibility.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'd never heard of this Nakamura before all this signing with WWE hype, so it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

[Volare]

This mofo is so fucking talented.

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[Vastardikai]

Goes on to be undefeated at Wrestlemania and surpasses the streak

President Ramu quit wrestling years ago.

[XL]

It sounds insane to be making this criticism after years of complaining that there wasn't enough wrestling on WWE TV, but there's no reason Ambrose and Owens need to wrestle anyone every week. Looking back to the Attitude Era, if you want to take that as the "standard", does anyone remember the two minute, insignificant midcard TV matches that lead to the pay-per-view matches, or do they remember the angles? Does anyone remember any of the Val Venis matches that Kaientai got involved in, or do they just remember "choppy choppy your pee pee"?

Tyler Breeze is, to me, the biggest example of how badly they're missing the point. Breeze shouldn't be wrestling every week, but he should absolutely be on TV every week. Show vignettes of him at photoshoots or in exotic locations, get him seats at genuine fashion events and show footage of that, have him come out to the ring to unveil a new photoshoot or new line of clothing. And that's for a character with an easily represented, easy to understand gimmick ready made, but what could you do with characters without that? You flesh them out. You teach the audience who they are, what they're all about. Aside from a dumb hairdo, crazy bumps, and gear that would be befitting of a CAW version of Shawn Michaels...what is Dolph Ziggler?

The whole point of wrestling-as-entertainment is that you have all these larger than life characters interacting with one another, but where's the appeal in that if their interactions are all the same? Wrestling match after wrestling match after wrestling match every week does nothing to embrace the appeal of these characters.

This. All day long.

It'd cut back on all these injuries/potentially give guys a bit more longevity, and would reduce the 50/50 booking. How they don't get this is beyond me.

[Exyle]

Theory: It's ludicrous to think Shane McMahon has a chance against the Undertaker. Let's operate under the assumption that he's going to win. The question is how?

Finn Balor loses the NXT title to Joe at Takeover Dallas.

Balor, Gallows, and Anderson take out the Undertaker during the Hell in the Cell match for Shane to win. Shane gets Raw, and the Bullet [or Balor] Club just took out the Undertaker and have colossal momentum.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Theory: It's ludicrous to think Shane McMahon has a chance against the Undertaker. Let's operate under the assumption that he's going to win. The question is how?

Finn Balor loses the NXT title to Joe at Takeover Dallas.

Balor, Gallows, and Anderson take out the Undertaker during the Hell in the Cell match for Shane to win. Shane gets Raw, and the Bullet [or Balor] Club just took out the Undertaker and have colossal momentum.

The fight to the top of the cell, then an anvil drops on Takers head. Shane does a classic "it wasn't me" Loony Tunes look then gets the pin.

[CSL]

don't be so ridiculous

[CSL]

Taker has to run off the side of the cell, hover in mid air whilst still 'running', gradually come to a stop, look at the hard cam with an 'oh shit' expression and then plummet to the ground. Then the anvil can fall on him.

[CSL]

even better if Jim Neidhart just falls out of the sky for no apparent reason and lands on him

[CSL]

has ACME written on his ass

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Anvil: It was me taker! It was me all along! I AM the authority.




Yep. Money angle.

[Fignuts]

Before he drops, taker holds up a sign tnat says "Thats all folks!"

[VSG]

Taker uses his hover power to run off the cell, look down to realize he has no ground below him and then fall down.

Edit: Oh fuck off.. Serves me right for not refreshing in 20 minutes.

[Jari]

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All the while Scott Steiner does the announcing

[Fignuts]

even better if Jim Neidhart just falls out of the sky for no apparent reason and lands on him

Strawberry DROP

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[Jordan]

Is that Paige?

[Lock Jaw]

WWE Paige, yeah

[Lock Jaw]

Unless you meant the gif, in which case, no. It is Shane McMahon "punching" The Viper Randy Orton.

[Emperor Smeat]

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According to Tokyo Sports, recent WWE signee Shinsuke Nakamura told the publication that he is recommending Kota Ibushi for The Global Cruiserweight Series.
https://twitter.com/enuhito_eng/status/702478685522173953

WWE NXT Diva Women's Champion Bayley is currently in Stamford, CT at WWE HQ for what she called a "very important business meeting."

Could this lead to her main roster call-up? She posted the following on Instagram:
Very important business meeting today....stay tuned..
Ended up being just her filming a skit for a future episode of Edge & Christian's new Network show. Bayley released a teaser image for it on her Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/p/BCL51KHB1po/ She still rumored as one of the potential post-Mania call ups though.

Last night's TNA Lockdown edition of Impact Wrestling drew 210,000 viewers. The replay at midnight drew 87,000 viewers, making this week's total at 297,000 viewers.

This is down 18% from last week's Monster's Ball show, which drew a total of 360,000 viewers, and the 388,000 total viewers from the week before that. Last week's first airing drew 273,000 viewers and the replay drew 87,000 viewers.

It's worth noting that TNA did not rank in the Top 150 Cable Originals this week in the 18-49 demo, which is interesting as nothing on cable really ran away with the night.
Lowest since the move to POP TV. For some comparison, the previous low was 345k viewers.

In an update on the WWE pay-per-view situation with Extreme Rules and Payback, both events are now scheduled once again.

Payback was originally scheduled for May 22nd but it will now take place on May 1st, according to F4WOnline. No word yet on where the event will take place and it is not listed on WWE's website.

Extreme Rules was originally scheduled for April 24th but it's been moved to May 22nd at the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, originally where Payback was planned for. The WWE website has confirmed this change.

Even with the stock market up a little today, WWE’s stock dipped 10 cents to 16.33. Traditionally, the WWE stock usually goes up around this time of year.

Roman Reigns underwent "surgery" yesterday according to WWE.com. Yesterday in Tampa, Reigns had a procedure to repair a broken nose that was suffered during the brawl with HHH at the end of Raw. It's suspicious to say the least especially given the photo tweeted out by Reigns (see above). Having suffered quite a few broken noses myself, I can say with certainty, this is not a post surgery photo. Note the "filter" on the photo. If he were really trying to show the graphic nature of the surgery, he would not have blurred the image. Also, I can't imagine a doctor or nurse just simply cramming gauze up his nose and doing a rather shoddy tape job. Note his eyes looking relatively normal. Most people would come out of this surgery with two massive black eyes. This is not to say that Reigns did not suffer some type of injury, and that perhaps this "surgery" was merely a ringside physician attempting to quickly reduce the injury. I showed this photo to a few doctors and they agreed that it was sketchy looking. But hey, it's pro wrestling.
:lol: at WWE botching something as simple as an injury angle for Reigns. Image from Reigns "surgery": http://www.f4wonline.com/sites/www.f4wonline.com/files/styles/large/public/field/image/Cb8EMzBWIAAgkN8.jpg

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Some other sheet news includes:

In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, the official WWE stance on what Bray says for the Wyatts to suddenly appear out of nowhere is "Dep!" https://twitter.com/MattTheDoctor/status/702585022956621824
In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is the 2nd Year Anniversary of the WWE Network's debut.
Newest issue of Lucha Underground comic book series was recently leaked: https://imgur.com/a/2z896
Official logo for NXT Takeover: Dallas was recently released by the WWE. https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/3525_1061053620599798_447849644454871691_n.jpg?oh=fda6a0aa5c80ea37881f4391199a2668&oe=5724ABA4
Recent episode of Talk Is Jericho podcast had the Young Bucks as Jericho's guest: http://podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=593&pid=1633681
For those interested, Rolling Stones had a recent interview with Kenny Omega with highlights including his role as leader of the Elite, the future of Bullet Club, and why he wants to feud with WWE's New Day. http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/kenny-omega-has-conquered-japan-now-he-wants-the-new-day-20160224



Some TPWW news includes:

Newest episode of TPWW's TLP podcast was released recently: http://tablesladderspodcast.podbean.com/e/tables-ladders-podcast-144-022416/

[Droford]

Is that Paige?
I had to do 2x take causeit looks like the girl i work with.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ask her out.

[Droford]

No can do

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Married?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Roman Reigns is such a heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could see some sort of screwjob at Mania where Shane takes over and helps Reigns and the two celebrate as the crowd hurls shit at them or something. They won't know how to react to Shane beating Undertaker and Reigns as champion aligned with him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think the legit finish will be Undertaker pummeling Shane, Shane doing something fucking stupid, Shane still fighting, Vince pissing off Taker and Taker forfeiting and Shane winning as Vince almost tugs his ear off.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

It sounds insane to be making this criticism after years of complaining that there wasn't enough wrestling on WWE TV, but there's no reason Ambrose and Owens need to wrestle anyone every week. Looking back to the Attitude Era, if you want to take that as the "standard", does anyone remember the two minute, insignificant midcard TV matches that lead to the pay-per-view matches, or do they remember the angles? Does anyone remember any of the Val Venis matches that Kaientai got involved in, or do they just remember "choppy choppy your pee pee"?

Tyler Breeze is, to me, the biggest example of how badly they're missing the point. Breeze shouldn't be wrestling every week, but he should absolutely be on TV every week. Show vignettes of him at photoshoots or in exotic locations, get him seats at genuine fashion events and show footage of that, have him come out to the ring to unveil a new photoshoot or new line of clothing. And that's for a character with an easily represented, easy to understand gimmick ready made, but what could you do with characters without that? You flesh them out. You teach the audience who they are, what they're all about. Aside from a dumb hairdo, crazy bumps, and gear that would be befitting of a CAW version of Shawn Michaels...what is Dolph Ziggler?

The whole point of wrestling-as-entertainment is that you have all these larger than life characters interacting with one another, but where's the appeal in that if their interactions are all the same? Wrestling match after wrestling match after wrestling match every week does nothing to
embrace the appeal of these characters.

I honestly thought that Tyler Breeze would have a WWE-proof gimmick. He'd at least get the usual male model shtick and get some cheap anti-poofter heat from redneck crowds. I honestly wonder if there is some sort of conscious sabotage of NXT characters? I don't want to get too conspiracy, but they've really fucked up almost everybody.

Breeze would have had a really easy made feud with Cody Rhodes just waiting for him. Cody could warn Breeze about the risks of being obsessed with himself, like "Dashing" was, and Breeze could just be a young punk. Breeze would have had stuff ready with The Miz. His stuff with Dolph Ziggler should have meant more too -- been more focused on trying to replace Ziggler as the workhorse on the roster.

Whatever. Now I just want to see a Tyler Breeze/Fandango tag team. The Hottest Men in the Room.

[screech]

I do miss videos and stuff that showed guys' characters. Like the Dashing Grooming Tips or Eddie and Chavo hijinks. Added more to the show, no matter how cheesy they could be.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Little touches like "Tyler Breeze has entered the building..." could go so far to establishing a persona for him.

[Big Vic]

I had to do 2x take causeit looks like the girl i work with.

Ask her out.

No can do

Married?
No he is already dating.

[Heisenberg]

I do miss videos and stuff that showed guys' characters. Like the Dashing Grooming Tips or Eddie and Chavo hijinks. Added more to the show, no matter how cheesy they could be.



It worked wonders for Razor Ramon, Lex Luger and Mr. Perfect. I still remember those character builds. Kalisto has no gimmick whatsoever and is holding a Championship. Absolutely no RAW coverage of his backstory. If there was one they hid it well

[Droford]

That's news to me

[drave]

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No he is already dating.

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[Droford]

I wouldn't even consider that conversing at this point

[Ultra Mantis]

It worked wonders for Razor Ramon, Lex Luger and Mr. Perfect. I still remember those character builds. Kalisto has no gimmick whatsoever and is holding a Championship. Absolutely no RAW coverage of his backstory. If there was one they hid it well

He's a gay hair stylist who wears a mask so his family won't find out and be ashamed that he's become a wrestler.

Del Rio is his rich uncle who has been otracised by the family due to his unnatural wrestling tendencies and he kinda has a vibe that Kalisto is his nephew so that's why he keeps trying to remove the mask.

[Big Vic]

I wouldn't even consider that conversing at this point
Are you 2 over?

[Volare]

Little touches like "Tyler Breeze has entered the building..." could go so far to establishing a persona for him.

That would be pretty cool to see....First match on RAW all of a sudden 3 minutes in over the loud speaker a deep voice announces he arrived, and before RAW is over in a segment or match announce he left.

[drave]

They should do that. They already announce "seasonal residence" and his roped-off area @ ringside was perfect for his gimmick.

Even it if annoys the fans, it will garner heel heat for him and make people want to see him get his face kicked in.

[Maluco]

I think almost all the current problems can be summarised by a lack of effort from the writers. Little touches and skits and fleshing out of characters means it is easier to write feuds about different things other than "pinfall over champion". Most importantly, it makes us care about the character and any little thing can catch on a create a star.

It's just so routine and monotonous right now. Faceless name A beats Faceless name B in nontitle match. Exchange wins...expected to be interested in them fighting again on special event.

A little variation and character build could provide so many different characters, feuds and keep heat while not having the match 3 times before a PPV

[Big Vic]

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

Should be his Mania entrance this year

[Jordan]

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

Why would you complain about this match, either on free tv or PPV? It's going to be different and awesome each time.

[Sepholio]

yeah wtf dude stop bitching

[XL]

The handling of Breeze is mind-boggling. He's the type of character that should have had 6 weeks of vignettes building the character up. Instead he debuted out of the blue on SmackDown! of all places.

He should have a minder, or security team, or a full blown entourage with an over-worked, under-appreciated PA, make up artist, personal stylist, etc. add on the "Tyler Breeze has entered the building" (or do a dual-screen with his posse shown arriving).

[Big Vic]

Why would you complain about this match, either on free tv or PPV? It's going to be different and awesome each time.
Not complaining about the matches but the first 1-on-1 match between the 2 guys should have happened on the PPV not free TV.

Promotion 101, come on guys.

[Emperor Smeat]

The handling of Breeze is mind-boggling. He's the type of character that should have had 6 weeks of vignettes building the character up. Instead he debuted out of the blue on SmackDown! of all places.

He should have a minder, or security team, or a full blown entourage with an over-worked, under-appreciated PA, make up artist, personal stylist, etc. add on the "Tyler Breeze has entered the building" (or do a dual-screen with his posse shown arriving).

Too similar to what the Miz did or tried recently from the Mizdow period although it would have been a perfect time to call Breeze up as one of Miz's entourage. He'd get enough screen time like Mizdow got and Miz or Mizdow as his first major feud would have been way better than Ziggler.

Biggest mistakes with his call-up was the WWE just making him a useless pawn in the Summer-Ziggler-Rusev feud and flat out not understanding how important his entrance is to his character.

[Jordan]

Not complaining about the matches but the first 1-on-1 match between the 2 guys should have happened on the PPV not free TV.

Promotion 101, come on guys.

I do understand that logic but it's a logic that WWE has broken away from. For better or worse. I don't mind, it made that debut Raw for AJ an awesome experience. And the story told was two out of three falls, which could have culminated at Wrestlemania but clearly they have another plan.

[The CyNick]

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

The King of the IWC ladies and gentlemen

[The CyNick]

The handling of Breeze is mind-boggling. He's the type of character that should have had 6 weeks of vignettes building the character up. Instead he debuted out of the blue on SmackDown! of all places.

He should have a minder, or security team, or a full blown entourage with an over-worked, under-appreciated PA, make up artist, personal stylist, etc. add on the "Tyler Breeze has entered the building" (or do a dual-screen with his posse shown arriving).

I almost feel like he was called up to have an ending to Breaking Ground.

I hope the kid succeeds, but I just don't see what stands out about his gimmick, ring work, or mic skills.

A lot of people miss the fact that WWE has a ton of studs on the roster. So it's one thing to make the roster, it's another to stand out enough to get noticed.

Just as an example, Neville seems to be more talented, but even he's barely kept his spot, mainly due to lack of charisma.

I agree that Breeze could have been introduced better, but seeing his work makes me think he was never going anywhere.

[Lock Jaw]

I loved Breeze on NXT, but it was fairly obvious that it would be a "go nowhere" gimmick on the main roster.

[Lock Jaw]

Remember when Fandango had his own entrance stage and a giant light-brite of himself as part of his entrance? I had kind of forgotten about it.

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[The CyNick]

It's like that perfect 10 guy. His gimmick would get over for a minute in WWE. But long term it will run is course, and he has to be able to get something else over.

It reminds me a lot of how some people thought guys like Sandow and Fandago were not pushed enough. Reality was they were comedy guys or guys who could play one note. You don't want those guys in the orchestra.

[Vastardikai]

You mean AJ Styles and Chris Jericho fighting twice on TV before the PPV didn't make you really eager to order the PPV or join the network?

Except people more or less know who both Jericho and Styles are. It was basically an intro to Styles for the 2 or 3 who didn't.

[Lock Jaw]

Johnny Curtis & Maxine coulda been "big time" though. :'(

[Big Vic]

Except people more or less know who both Jericho and Styles are. It was basically an intro to Styles for the 2 or 3 who didn't.
If you want Styles to fight Jericho at the PPV and be a selling point don't have the fight happen on free TV first.

[Big Vic]

The King of the IWC ladies and gentlemen
I'm not sure what you are getting at but thank you.

[Shadrick]

It's like that perfect 10 guy. His gimmick would get over for a minute in WWE. But long term it will run is course, and he has to be able to get something else over.

It reminds me a lot of how some people thought guys like Sandow and Fandago were not pushed enough. Reality was they were comedy guys or guys who could play one note. You don't want those guys in the orchestra.

lmao

[The CyNick]

Remember when Fandango had his own entrance stage and a giant light-brite of himself as part of his entrance? I had kind of forgotten about it.

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Goes to show WWE gave him every chance to succeed

[Lock Jaw]

Giving him that gimmick in the first place sabotaged his chance to succeed

[Poit]

Just as an example, Neville seems to be more talented, but even he's barely kept his spot, mainly due to lack of charisma.

Neville seemed plenty charismatic in backstage segments on NXT. Especially in segments with Breeze. He's just, y'know, never in any of those anymore.

[Emperor Smeat]

Just as an example, Neville seems to be more talented, but even he's barely kept his spot, mainly due to lack of charisma.

I agree that Breeze could have been introduced better, but seeing his work makes me think he was never going anywhere.
:lol: at both

WWE giving Neville nothing important to do nor a Kofi-like role as the big high flyer is why he's having trouble staying relevant.

WWE has completely botched using Breeze since his call-up. While his current gimmick does have its limits, the WWE has done nothing to help him get over or be relevant.

[The CyNick]

Giving him that gimmick in the first place sabotaged his chance to succeed

Yeah well its definitely limiting.

But at the same time, if the talent was good enough, he would have got over without the gimmick. He's another in a long list of average guys.

[The CyNick]

Neville seemed plenty charismatic in backstage segments on NXT. Especially in segments with Breeze. He's just, y'know, never in any of those anymore.

He's had chances to talk. He looks like a deer in the headlights. NXT is a different animal. Everything is pre taped and re taped, so your promos look better. When you get to RAW you need to be able to swim in the deep end. He can't.

[Wishbone]

Y'all really need to stop having serious interactions with CyNick. The dude is clearly just a troll and is feeding off of all the attention he gets here.

[The CyNick]

:lol: at both

WWE giving Neville nothing important to do nor a Kofi-like role as the big high flyer is why he's having trouble staying relevant.

WWE has completely botched using Breeze since his call-up. While his current gimmick does have its limits, the WWE has done nothing to help him get over or be relevant.

I think they pulled the plug really quickly on him, but at the same time, I don't think he connected. A lot of the NXT guys were able to get over right away. With Breeze, I always felt like he was just a mid card act on NXT, and he got to WWE and just didn't click. WWE could have done more, but he was featured fir the first few weeks, and you could great a pin drop for his segments. He could use a tag partner to stay relevant.

[The CyNick]

Y'all really need to stop having serious interactions with CyNick. The dude is clearly just a troll and is feeding off of all the attention he gets here.

Yes, I grow stronger by the post.

Your act is terrible.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah well its definitely limiting.

But at the same time, if the talent was good enough, he would have got over without the gimmick. He's another in a long list of average guys.

Johnny Curtis was Above Average. :'(

[XL]

You're thinking of Mike Sanders.

[Savio]

If we keeping feeding CyNick he will be strong enough to absorb Android 17 :-\

[Evil Vito]

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If you didn't find this Johnny Curtis entertaining, then you're a moron who should strongly consider suicide.

[Wishbone]

If we keeping feeding CyNick he will be strong enough to absorb Android 17 :-\

Nah, he's just gonna get diabeetus and have to be put down :-\

[Mr. Nerfect]

I do understand that logic but it's a logic that WWE has broken away from. For better or worse. I don't mind, it made that debut Raw for AJ an awesome experience. And the story told was two out of three falls, which could have culminated at Wrestlemania but clearly they have another plan.

And I think that is Big Vic's point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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If you didn't find this Johnny Curtis entertaining, then you're a moron who should strongly consider suicide.

CyNick isn't a human.

This segment made me miss all the performers involved. Curtis & Maxine could have been a great power couple act. Triple H vs. Johnny Curtis at WrestleMania one year, with Stephanie McMahon and Maxine in their respective corners could have been huge. The old power couple versus the new one. Both Triple H and Curtis were trained by Killer Kowalski too. A lot of parallels they could have exploited there.

Maxine was so fucking hot and Matt Striker was such a gem that could have been utilized a whole lot better. Get Alicia Fox out of the ring and use her as a bitchy manager for someone.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's had chances to talk. He looks like a deer in the headlights. NXT is a different animal. Everything is pre taped and re taped, so your promos look better. When you get to RAW you need to be able to swim in the deep end. He can't.

Did you hear that from Vince or Triple H, you Meltzer sheep?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fandango would be a perfect guy to have join Shane McMahon. One of the guys that got given stupid shit and has had all his talent wasted over the years because Vince is not happy the ballet didn't get over. Give him a "This is not ballet" t-shirt and have him flanked by a different hot woman each week. He starts using the ring name "Not Fandango." Every promo he cuts ends with his Fandango theme song ringtone going off because "Lindsay" is calling. "I can't talk right now, Lindsay..." can be his sign-off line as he walks out of each interview with the extremely lustful Renee Young.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He'll penetrate the mainstream within a month.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You just play off the abortion that was the Fandango gimmick.

[Emperor Smeat]

CyNick isn't a human.

This segment made me miss all the performers involved. Curtis & Maxine could have been a great power couple act. Triple H vs. Johnny Curtis at WrestleMania one year, with Stephanie McMahon and Maxine in their respective corners could have been huge. The old power couple versus the new one. Both Triple H and Curtis were trained by Killer Kowalski too. A lot of parallels they could have exploited there.

Maxine was so fucking hot and Matt Striker was such a gem that could have been utilized a whole lot better. Get Alicia Fox out of the ring and use her as a bitchy manager for someone.

Funny thing about Maxine was the way she left was almost the same way the Bellas were originally going to leave the company.

Both were getting tired being stuck in developmental and asked for a call up to happen (or if it was going to happen). The WWE refused for Maxime which is why she left while they caved into the Bellas demands supposedly because Vince and/or management was obsessed with having real twins for booking purposes.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Have him face Chris Jericho one week and cut a promo about how he defeated Jericho at WrestleMania. The two have a match and Curtis shows something a bit different to what he usually does. "#NotFandango" will be trending. Curtis wins with a new finishing move.

The next week, Jericho and Styles fight because Styles wasn't there to help Jericho. Not Fandango vs. AJ Styles this week. Jericho comes out and costs Styles the match and Not Fandango picks up his second win. He'll be over like rover at this point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fandango is only 32 and has 14 years experience.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He now has a half-sleeve tattoo on one of his legs, so he will look very sexy if they put him in trunks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If they don't want to give him a real singles push, because they are dumb -- Fandango and Tyler Breeze should form a super-sexy heel tag team that will ultimately turn face because of their mainstream popularity. They will be better Hardy Boyz.

Summer Rae takes issue with Fandango and Breeze -- two of her ex-boyfriends -- forming a tag team, so she becomes the manager of her own team -- The Miz & R-Truth. The Miz could feel threatened by there being two other sexy men on the WWE roster ("This is the one true money-maker in all of WWE") and R-Truth can be the dude that Summer Rae enjoys the BBC...she loves watching "Luther"!

Summer Rae has done movies with The Miz, R-Truth has teamed with Miz before and R-Truth was Fandango's old pro. So much history. Goldust wants to know what happened to his tag team with Truth, and he and The Miz beat-down Goldust but Fandango & Breeze make the save. Fandango becomes a loose ally with Goldust -- "Let's get weird!" forcing The Miz and R-Truth to call in back-up -- The Miz's former associate "Normal" Alex Riley -- a guy who hates weird people. "Why can't people just fit in?!? It makes me want to RAGE!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seriously though -- fuck-off Stardust and have Cody Rhodes come to Goldust's defense against The Awesome Truth and Summer Rae. Tie in those rivalries with Fandango & Tyler Breeze's issues with The Awesome Truth. That'd be a more than worthy mid-card tag team feud while The Dudleys and The Usos fight over the actual belts or something.

[Blonde Moment]

The King of the IWC ladies and gentlemen

Actually you are one of the biggest examples of the IWC as just about every post you make oozes with the smarky insider type perspective of "I'm right, you are wrong and I am going to beat you over the head with MY opinion based facts until you give up your own opinion based facts."

But that is ok as it is your right as a wrestling fan :y:

[VSG]

Remember when Fandango had his own entrance stage and a giant light-brite of himself as part of his entrance? I had kind of forgotten about it.

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Damn.. Now I miss Fandango girl again.

[Blonde Moment]

The internet as well as the way the business is at present has changed and the use of vignettes might be seen as a waste of resources. Fans think the content is lame as hell right now and the repackaging of failed main roster gimmicks would be much harder to pull off than it would on NXT (The transformation of Husky Harris to Bray Wyatt for example) would kill the character before it even got off the ground.

[The CyNick]

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If you didn't find this Johnny Curtis entertaining, then you're a moron who should strongly consider suicide.

I found Mae Young entertaining, but I didn't want to see her in anything other than a rare comedy spot.

[The CyNick]

CyNick isn't a human.

This segment made me miss all the performers involved. Curtis & Maxine could have been a great power couple act. Triple H vs. Johnny Curtis at WrestleMania one year, with Stephanie McMahon and Maxine in their respective corners could have been huge. The old power couple versus the new one. Both Triple H and Curtis were trained by Killer Kowalski too. A lot of parallels they could have exploited there.

Maxine was so fucking hot and Matt Striker was such a gem that could have been utilized a whole lot better. Get Alicia Fox out of the ring and use her as a bitchy manager for someone.
You're trying too hard

[Mr. Nerfect]

You are the fucking worst. Please leave these forums. Now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

CyNick makes me actually hate the WWE. Like, I want to see them go out of business when he talks about them. Instead of just being uninterested in their current programming.

[The CyNick]

Actually you are one of the biggest examples of the IWC as just about every post you make oozes with the smarky insider type perspective of "I'm right, you are wrong and I am going to beat you over the head with MY opinion based facts until you give up your own opinion based facts."

But that is ok as it is your right as a wrestling fan :y:

Thanks for the support

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The internet as well as the way the business is at present has changed and the use of vignettes might be seen as a waste of resources. Fans think the content is lame as hell right now and the repackaging of failed main roster gimmicks would be much harder to pull off than it would on NXT (The transformation of Husky Harris to Bray Wyatt for example) would kill the character before it even got off the ground.

Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,

[harmsway]

Bob Backlund won the world title with a fucking atomic drop. Hilarious

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Just remember Noid, for every CyNick, there is a Gorgeous Dale

[The CyNick]

Did you hear that from Vince or Triple H, you Meltzer sheep?

Ive seen it with my own eyes

[Mr. Nerfect]

That gives me a sigh of relief.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ive seen it with my own eyes

You're using scripted simulated combat to analyse the limits of combat simulators? Interesting. I think that's what the most basic definition of "mark" is.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Speaking of gorgeous, Dale...LUNCH TIME!

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I am the future Gorgeous Dale Lynch

[Mr. Nerfect]

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[Bad News Gertner]

So why does everyone hate The Cynick? I haven't been following his posts.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

So why does everyone hate The Cynick? I haven't been following his posts.

Logical fallacies out the anus. You were a much better heel. Your promos contained an element of truth. I want to go back in Mr. Dalfur's Way Back Machine to those days.

[Blonde Moment]

Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,

Who is Meltzer

[Mr. Nerfect]

I feel like such a creep because of how much I love Becky Lynch, but I guess that's her job as a goddess babyface isn't it?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Illogical phallus

[Bad News Gertner]

I don't read Cynick's posts because I don't really follow wrestling that much anymore, but he seems to be hated across the boars.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't remember exactly what he said to CSL, who is one of the most switched on posters here, but it was pretty embarrassing for him. CyNick is like that autistic kid in school who knows maybe one thing, but when he tries to enter an actual discussion with depth, he ends up just acting like he's smarter than everyone with no actual meat to what he's saying.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Plus he's a racist.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He seems to have something against sheep

[Wishbone]

I don't read Cynick's posts because I don't really follow wrestling that much anymore, but he seems to be hated across the boars.

Let me put it for you this way, Gerty. CyNick is essentially using your "the IWC is stupid" heel gimmick but in a really shit way. He's like the TNA to your WWE basically.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's not even that he gets it wrong a lot of the time. The IWC does have a lot of idiosyncrasies and falsely-held beliefs (generally speaking). But he distances himself so much from it with arguments from authority that are so easily torn apart but he can't admit it.

* Ratings being down doesn't matter because Vince McMahon says ratings don't matter.

* Everyone that has ever gotten a push and been talented has worked out because the WWE doesn't do anything wrong, it has to be the talent.

* 50/50 booking is what the WWE wants because it adds drama to the product. Or something.

* Ryback sucks because if he gets over and the company can't push him wrong, then it must be his fault. Or something.

* Cesaro sucks because 50/50 booking should get him over. It's his fault. Or something.

* Fandango sucks because if he gets over and the company can't fuck it up, then it must be his fault. Or something.

* NXT is secretly Vince's baby because it just is OK.

* The product is more popular than ever. Have you heard what the WWE says about the YouTube channel.

* WWE Network can be considered a roaring success as long as it makes it into the top ten list of digital on-demand programming providers.

* Stock going down is a good thing. Relax. They made the most revenue they ever had. How much of that was profit? That's not the point.

* The WWE needed to get rid of PPVs because they need to sell the Network they have no problems selling at all guys.

That sort of shit. Plus, while he pays lip service to the idea that the product could be better, he thinks it is "good" and that people that aren't interested in it are somehow alien. This is contrast to the evidence that general interest in the product is dropping -- whether it be low television ratings, merchandise sales petering off, a lot of Network cancellations, etc.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Let me put it for you this way, Gerty. CyNick is essentially using your "the IWC is stupid" heel gimmick but in a really shit way. He's like the TNA to your WWE basically.

This. I didn't articulate my points well because I don't really care to engage anymore. Even most of my posts towards him have become "Haha, you suck."

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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Hunting Lock Jaw

[Heisenberg]

Tongue punch her fartbox I would

[harmsway]

How much of the Internet leaked "rumors" are put out by wwe themselves would you guess?

[Emperor Smeat]

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The original Lesnar plan was for Bray Wyatt to cost him the title at Fast Lane and face him at WrestleMania, following up on the Royal Rumble. The decision was made to instead go with Ambrose. The idea is that Lesnar is there to take Ambrose to a higher level. That doesn’t mean Lesnar loses. I’d be surprised if he does, although him destroying Ambrose so strongly in every angle so far would make you believe he’s going to. But the problem is as much as the crowd likes Ambrose, Lesnar is the one guy with the dynamic that cuts through the cartoon and tinges with reality. He’s the guy they are really behind.

A segment with Austin for WrestleMania as been apparently been decided on. Johnson’s role doesn’t appear to have been. It’s far from a lock he’s in Reigns corner to offset Vince McMahon. In fact, if Vince McMahon has an involvement now, it’s feels more likely it would in the build for Undertaker vs. Shane. With Johnson, he has tremendous input on what he’s going to do because he’s doing it for fun, in the sense he doesn’t need to do it and he doesn’t need the money, but he loves coming in and having fun. I’ve heard two different scenarios discussed for Michaels, neither of which involves him wrestling in a match. The original plan for Reigns vs. HHH would be to have a special referee who has a history with HHH, to stack the odds against Reigns. It’s noted that Dave Bautista was asked and turned down that role at least the first time he was asked a few weeks ago. We have not heard Bautista’s name mentioned in the last week in conjunction with the show, and he has been very critical of the company of late because of how they’ve treated Titus O’Neil, who is a close friend of his.


There was also a bunch of commotion regarding the Raw the next day, on 5/23 in Baltimore, where it was billed as Raw vs. WWE, which made people think there was going to be a post-WrestleMania brand split. While we haven’t heard that, and even though it seems like the depth isn’t there for such a move at this time, they are getting Cena, Rollins, Cesaro and Orton back soon, plus there are a lot of top level talent they could elevate from NXT if they want. However, WWE officials said that the Raw vs. WWE tag was something typed incorrectly by Ticketmaster. Even if there is to be plans like that, they would be kept secret and the people in charge of advertising working with Ticketmaster would not know about it for fear it would get out.

Lucha Underground set another new record on 2/17 doing 152,000 viewers. They are making significant weekly increases, although perhaps some of that is from Spanish viewers who used to watch on Unimas and not find the English version is the only one available. But they are now doing great numbers as compared with everything else on El Rey.

Evolve and WWN have announced these shows in Dallas for WrestleMania weekend which will also be iPPV events. On 4/1 at 4 p.m. Central time (5 p.m. Eastern), will be Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Will Ospreay, Chris Hero & Tommy End vs. Drew Gulak & Tracy Williams plus also appearing are Timothy Thatcher, Johnny Gargano, Drew Galloway, Ricochet, Sami Callihan, TJ Perkins, Marty Scurll, Caleb Konley, Anthony Nese, Matt Riddle, Ethan Page and Fred Yehi. On 4/2 they are running a Noon show with Ricochet vs. Ospreay, Sabre Jr. vs. Riddle and Gargano & Galloway defend the tag titles against Gulak & Williams. On 4/2 at 8 p.m. there is a WWN Super Show with Thatcher vs. Callihan for the Evolve title, and Hero vs. Sabre Jr

The 3/25 show in Madison Square Garden has been announced as “Daniel Bryan Appreciation Night.” He will be added to the show. Also announced thus far are Reigns vs. Sheamus, who will be managed on this night only by HHH, Ambrose vs. Owens for the IC title in a 30 minute Iron Man match, the MSG debut of Styles, Show vs. Wyatt, Kalisto vs. Del Rio for the U.S. title as well as an appearance by Ric Flair. It’s possible they are doing that in more than one city as Bryan is also being advertised for house shows on 3/26 in Trenton and 3/27 in Washington, DC


There have been major changes in WWE on television in Japan with the advent of the network, and for the WWE fan base there, it hasn’t been for the better. Before, Raw aired live in English, aired ten days later with Japanese subtitles, there was a first run Smackdown in English and a replay ten days later with Japanese subtitles, NXT aired ten days after the U.S. with Japanese subtitles, the PPVs aired live on the Internet, two days later on regular PPV and ten days later with Japanese subtitles. Now they only have the 90 minute Raw on a two day delay and the 90 minute Raw with Japanese subtitles, Afterburn and Afterburn with Japanese subtitles. So they’ve lost the live Raw and complete Raws, Smackdown, all NXT, no more PPV on television.
Network itself is reported to be plagued with issues at the moment which isn't making things better for Japanese WWE fans. The biggest being that nothing is translated in Japanese making it hard for people to use it there.

Recently on WOOOOO! Nation with Ric Flair, 'The Nature Boy' interviewed Bruce Prichard. During the podcast, Flair claimed that nothing could be done to save TNA.

"They've had their opportunity. It's not going to be there again, in my opinion." Flair continued, "Sting is gone. Kurt Angle is gone. AJ Styles is gone. I mean, I'm not by any means demeaning the talent that's there, but I don't even know who's there anymore."

Later in the show, Flair stated that Vince McMahon does not feel that WWE has any competition anymore and elaborated on the idea that being a true competitor to WWE is prohibitively expensive.

"I can remember when I was there, when [McMahon] told me, and I'm sure Bruce [Prichard] heard it long before I did, that he didn't have any competition in the [professional] wrestling business [and] that his only competition was Disney. That's what he said to me one time. And now, he doesn't feel like he had any competition. And the rumor went around that Rupert Murdoch was going to go against him and, you know what? They estimated, and this was 10 years ago, the estimated price would cost Rupert Murdoch back then to open up against Vince, and this was 10 years ago now [or] 15, take a guess. $450 million. That's contracts, equipment, I mean, if you look at what the company [has now], the company has 22 eighteen-wheelers. Are you kidding me? And the hotels on a Monday or a Sunday have 230 or 280 people in them. That's a lot of overhead, guys."

"So this is the story of the birth of the “This is Awesome” chant. It was actually done for the first time during a bad match with Abyss vs. Money Brown vs. Raven at the TNA Victory Road PPV in Orlando. When it was done, it was a mocking chant, started by MLW podcast host and wrestler Mister Saint Laurent (MSL), done sarcastically. The chant as a positive started soon after, at FIP shows in Central Florida, and that was by people who had been at the TNA show. It garnered popularity when it spread to ROH, particularly the October 1, 2005 match in New York between Kenta Kobashi and Samoa Joe"


Some other sheet news includes:

Tommy Dreamer's House of Hardcore promotion recently signed a deal with Japan's NOAH promotion for talent exchanges.
Jeff Jarrett announced GFW has recently signed a tv deal for New Zealand with 13 episodes set to air starting next month. Next tour for the company was revealed to be occurring next month in England.
Iron Shiek was announced as the last inductee for this year's George Tragos/Lou Thesz wrestling Hall of Fame class. Hall of Fame ceremony will occur between July 21st and July 23rd.
According to reports, Davey Richards' knee surgery ended up being a success and will be out till at least August for TNA. He suffered an ACL tear during TNA's recent England tour.
According to a recent Ric Flair podcast episode, Flair hinted Randy Orton suffered a setback with his shoulder recovery and can't wrestle for Mania while Sting can't wrestle at Mania either due to current health problems.
The mayor of Orlando recently hinted the city has a strong chance of hosting next year's Mania with worst case scenario being 2018.
According to the Observer, the WWE is going to ramp up their advertising of the Tapout brand starting after Mania.
WWE is currently looking at several wrestlers in Mexico to be on their Cruiserweight tournament show with Garza Jr as one of the rumored wrestlers to participate. Garza Jr might also be getting a NXT/WWE deal as part of the talks.
Tyson Kidd is rumored to have retired from wrestling based on a recent Instagram post by Natalya. https://www.instagram.com/p/BCKCiP8y1Hd/
Bleacher Report had a recent article about how the WWE has ruined the Wyatt Family as a credible stable due to their booking habits. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2619599-wwe-has-systematically-destroyed-the-wyatt-family-as-credible-stable
Observer had a long report on WWE's struggles trying to get Reigns over as the next mega star, why its not going to work but the WWE doesn't care, and why the WWE doesn't care about the negative reactions towards Mania 32. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/47gytg/read_this_dave_meltzer_on_wrestlemania_32/
According to the Observer, the reason the WWE ran an injury angle with Reigns this week was because he actually needed some time off to deal with a legit injury that's been nagging him for a while.

[Fox]

I can't remember exactly what he said to CSL, who is one of the most switched on posters here, but it was pretty embarrassing for him. CyNick is like that autistic kid in school who knows maybe one thing, but when he tries to enter an actual discussion with depth, he ends up just acting like he's smarter than everyone with no actual meat to what he's saying.

I like you, Noid, but you obviously don't know many autistic people. They generally don't act like they're smarter than others. They have enough trouble communicating basic thoughts as it is.

[Emperor Smeat]

How much of the Internet leaked "rumors" are put out by wwe themselves would you guess?
At least all the ones that the WWE themselves reference as "breaking the news" such as the Hall of Fame announcements or them signing NJPW wrestlers.

When TMZ would suddenly start to leak or report on a bunch of WWE news, it was rumored for a while the WWE paid TMZ for it to happen. The same with the ESPN-WWE deal being rumored to just be the WWE paying for air time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like you, Noid, but you obviously don't know many autistic people. They generally don't act like they're smarter than others. They have enough trouble communicating basic thoughts as it is.

I've got an autistic brother. It's a wide spectrum. I like you too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

https://41.media.tumblr.com/eba814f0bce93534ae262fc78f98743b/tumblr_o34a5tjE0K1swrlico3_500.jpg

Great Lynching.

[Evil Vito]

A Noid vs CyNick match would make me order WrestleMania 32.

[Evil Vito]

Noid wins and has sex with Becky Lynch and CyNick's mother in the middle of the ring.

[Evil Vito]

WWE would just book CyNick to go over in the rematch. Because 50/50 booking will get everyone over. Or something.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Noid wins and has sex with Becky Lynch and CyNick's mother in the middle of the ring.

I'm hardcore.

[VSG]

So much negativity in here.

[harmsway]

Hot take...Talking about people's mothers should be off limits