"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Destor]

:lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I fucking love Batista as an actor, have a feeling a lot of people will dig him because of his stellar on-screen work.

Haha, are you being sarcastic?

[slik]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Cool King]

I hated "Sad and Conflicted Big Show".

It felt like every time you saw him, he was crying.

[Cool King]

Usually over something stupid.

[Sixx]

Usually over something stupid.

Yeah, like that time he cried when his father died. What a pussy!

[Cool King]

Actually, thinking about it now, I can't remember if he actually cried or not when his dad died or when The Big Boss Man stole his casket.

I'm hoping he did, as he cried like a little bitch when he bumped into AJ, so if he didn't cry when his dad died, then he really needs to get his priorities straight.

[Sixx]

When he bumped into AJ? Please elaborate.

[Cool King]

He accidentally ran into AJ on SmackDown and she fell down.

He then cried uncontrollably.

[Cool King]

AJ Lee that is.

Not Styles.

[Sixx]

Hahahaha, he cried cause she fell down? Glorious.

[Sixx]

ahahaha found it on YT

[Cool King]

I was just about to post it. :y:

[Sixx]

The crowd with the "she's ok" chants. Probably just so Big Show stops crying like a bitch.

[Black Widow]

Hope that Batista runs through all the internet favorites besides AJ.

[Emperor Smeat]

I hated "Sad and Conflicted Big Show".

It felt like every time you saw him, he was crying.

The only time it was ever great was when he didn't hesitate at all to punch Miz while being in the conflicted state.

The week before, Show is pretty much sobbing over having to punch Dusty Rhodes. The next week he straight up punches Miz the first chance he gets and leaves the ring more pissed at doing Steph's bidding again than hurting Miz.

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[Lock Jaw]

Wish my "Daniel Bryan uses the D.E.N.N.I.S. system on AJ Lee" video wasn't taken down from YouTube due to copyright......

[TSI]

The only time it was ever great was when he didn't hesitate at all to punch Miz while being in the conflicted state.

The week before, Show is pretty much sobbing over having to punch Dusty Rhodes. The next week he straight up punches Miz the first chance he gets and leaves the ring more pissed at doing Steph's bidding again than hurting Miz.

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Super weird to gain heat by knocking out the Miz.

[Emperor Smeat]

Kurt Angle pretty much confirmed rumors of Jason Jordan getting the "Son of Angle" push was only as a practical joke made at Angle's expense. Might explain why the storyline has been terrible since they probably never really thought beyond the initial ribbing.

"You know this was a big prank that Vince had. I looked at him like you're serious? When did I get her pregnant, in college? And she was black? The joke is on me but honestly, I'm not going to lie to you, I really hope that this storyline turns into a match with Jason.

Came from a recent interview he had at a fan event last weekend at the iPlay America theme park in New Jersey.

[Lock Jaw]

Imagining Vince going to the writer's room and yelling "Make Jason Jordan Kurt Angle's son! It'll be a hilarious prank!", and the writers all exchanging glances like "this dude is nuts", but then just nodding and saying "Great idea, Vince!"

[Tom Guycott]

Kurt Angle pretty much confirmed rumors of Jason Jordan getting the "Son of Angle" push was only as a practical joke made at Angle's expense. Might explain why the storyline has been terrible since they probably never really thought beyond the initial ribbing.



This has been a known habit of WWE, though: they really don't think beyond one idea or angle or moment, or how it can grow and evolve or possibly hinder and stifle someone in the long run. It is usually about short term gains and instant gratification in ratings, ticket/merch sales, or simply Vince's whims. Screw how it comes off to the fans. Screw how this can impact JJ's career trajectory for good or ill. Funny rib on Kurt; his reaction is caught on film forever!!! :|

Even the slow pitch "gimmie" of this angle being a ploy by Jason Jordan to get some noteriety with a heel turn and a match against Kurt doesn't even sound like a given, with Kurt "hoping" it leads to a match instead of keeping that close to the vest because it is an actual goal of the story that is written in. Nope. Just "Hey, wouldn't it be funny if Kurt has an illigitimate mulatto son? Let's do that!" with no plan on where to go from there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Doesn't surprise me. I mean, the angle didn't come with any sort of push. Unless you consider losing to The Miz and having "showcase" matches that don't get anywhere a push.

[GD]

Did Shelton Benjamin always look this big? Almost everyone on the tag division looks smaller than him.

[Cool King]

I'm waiting for the "Oh, the DNA paternity testing results were for Chad Gable, not Jason Jordan!" angle.

[Cool King]

Jason Jordan can then go to SmackDown and team with Shelton Benjamin, so we can have Shelton Benjamin and Shelton Benjamin V2 as a team.

[Cool King]

The team name can be "Benjamin & Jordan", so Vince can get his laughs in at the abbreviation of the team being "BJ".

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Did Shelton Benjamin always look this big? Almost everyone on the tag division looks smaller than him.

No he had a growth spurt

[#BROKEN Hasney]

For real though, it's just that the average height of guys has shrunk over the last decade so returning people look taller than they used to. I always assumed Drew was 6'3 or 6'4 somewhere around there, but he comes back to NXT and he's actually 6'7" towering over the current NXT roster.

[TSI]

Im sure Im in the minority, but Im liking Jason Jordans Character. Hes playing a wimp thats having to act tough in front of his dad to perfection. If they turn him heel they could end up having something here

[GD]

For real though, it's just that the average height of guys has shrunk over the last decade so returning people look taller than they used to. I always assumed Drew was 6'3 or 6'4 somewhere around there, but he comes back to NXT and he's actually 6'7" towering over the current NXT roster.

Indeed. Even Jeff Hardy looks bigger in comparison.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, everybody is smaller now. And no one is allowed to promo, so even shit promos from yesteryear are stellar talkers now.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[GD]

Even The Rock looked bigger than Cena.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/The_Rock_vs_John_Cena.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Rock is not a small guy. Always seemed much smaller than he was. Dude's like 6'5.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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The Jumping Nothing by Joey Maggs.

Can't really see why Axl Rotten didn't make it long in WCW.

[Destor]

The Rock is not a small guy. Always seemed much smaller than he was. Dude's like 6'5.seemed small because evernwas so flippin huge then

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, that's true. And the guy would also fucking move, which you probably didn't associate with guys his size back then.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to PWI, Matt Hardy is set to become the legal owner of the "Broken" trademark in a couple of weeks since it appears Anthem is no longer interested in opposing it.

Anthem tried to save some face during an interview with Sports Illustrated saying they have given permission for WWE to use the gimmick even though its becoming more apparent they never really owned it.

Sports Illustrated also reported Matt will only be using a "Broken"-like character in the WWE likely because WWE wants some rights to the gimmick after Hardy leaves.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Who's spot do you think he'll take at Mania? Batista can still go

Sorry, but nobody's, TBH. His 2014 run was wildly unpopular. I literally can't recall a single thing he did other than getting booed practically off RAW when he returned, and him being dressed like a Smurf at some PPV (Payback?). #BOOtista #Bluetista

[DAMN iNATOR]

According to PWI, Matt Hardy is set to become the legal owner of the "Broken" trademark in a couple of weeks since it appears Anthem is no longer interested in opposing it.

Anthem tried to save some face during an interview with Sports Illustrated saying they have given permission for WWE to use the gimmick even though its becoming more apparent they never really owned it.

Sports Illustrated also reported Matt will only be using a "Broken"-like character in the WWE likely because WWE wants some rights to the gimmick after Hardy leaves.

I don't know that it's as much them not wanting to oppose it as quite possibly just not being financially able to when the opposition phase starts December 19.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even with their current financial mess, Anthem has a lot more money to contest the trademark than Hardy does especially with WWE not getting involved.

More likely they just don't have the paperwork needed to actually oppose it and probably would have been rejected if they used the same paperwork done for their own filings.

The way the case has been going, it was leaning towards Matt as the owner because Anthem waited too long to file a trademark and Hardys using the gimmick outside of Impact.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is so much fuss about fucking nothing.

[Fignuts]

It's not nothing if it's over. Doesn't really matter if you like it or not, guy has people chanting "delete" in every arena he goes to. Clearly money to be made off it.

[Destor]

Figgy is right...but it does nothing for me so in that i agree with noid.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's not nothing if it's over. Doesn't really matter if you like it or not, guy has people chanting "delete" in every arena he goes to. Clearly money to be made off it.

If it's over. If. It didn't draw in TNA. It didn't even draw that well on YouTube (more people have probably watched the YouTube clip of Bray Wyatt beating Matt Hardy from Raw than have seen the Broken Universe stuff). It doesn't matter if I like it or not, but I'm calling it now -- big flop. Although everyone will blame the company even though the idea itself was fucking garbage from the start.

It might sell a few t-shirts or something, but wouldn't The Hardys already be doing fine in that department? With Hardy as as singles guy, why not give it a shot? You need to stick your finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing -- but the people still watching wrestling aren't trend-setters and aren't really the sort of people whose opinions you should be listening to, by and large.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh no, it's going to be God awful.

Broken Matt Hardy from the team thst brings you Bray Wyatt promos.... I'm shuddering just thinking about it.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, it will probably be bad no matter what side of the fence you fall on the broken gimmick, but I think enough people will buy the merch regardless, and that's all that matters to WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Hardy Boyz returning to the WWE has got 22,000,000+ views on YouTube. The Cleasning of Jeff Hardy hasn't reached 10% of that. Just to put things into perspective a bit. And everyone with access to YouTube can see all these videos, mind you. I think internet fans kind of go into a bubble with this sort of stuff.

I actually think the WWE will do a better job than TNA did with it, or could do with it. I think they will trust Matt Hardy's "creativity." I just think it will suck. More people will be subjected to it than ever, and they will ask "What the fuck were you geeks going on about?". If I am wrong, I will readily admit it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

OR it will actually be hilarious watching it fail, and it will fit more within the boundaries of reality, so people new to it will actually find it pretty great, but "purists" will hate it and lament that Matt is not a main eventer, but he'll have hit his true ceiling and will be doing more significant work than he was doing in TNA.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I don't care if he's a main eventer or not, if the segments are good I'll just watch the segments much like I was doing with the TNA version. But considering most of WWE is bad right now and I very much doubt they will let Matt Hardy do what he wants since they script everyone word for word.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong, but to me it feels like if some Hollywood studio came along and said "Hey, we're remaking The Room! We even got Tommy Wiseau!". We know it's going to suck, but not in the same way that made the original so endearing.

[Sixx]

Just read Nia Jax and Alexa Bliss are BFFs in real life.

They must look hilarious together. Jax is exactly my height and Bliss is exactly my ex's height. Not to mention the weight difference between the two.

[GD]

The Rock is not a small guy. Always seemed much smaller than he was. Dude's like 6'5.

Ummm...he was a lot bulkier during his last stint.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the rock is fucking massive lol

[slik]

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And then she married the king of shovels ;)

[Emperor Smeat]

Rumor going around the net is Lio Rush might be getting released soon by the WWE. Basis for the rumor involves him suddenly removing all WWE related stuff from his Twitter account which usually tends to be a sign someone got released or is about to get released.

Lio Rush (who had gotten a ton of heat for his joke about Emma being released a few weeks ago on Twitter) has removed all WWE references from his Twitter. He has also changed his hometown from Orlando to Baltimore, where he resided before signing with WWE last year. His latest tweet simply says "REFLECTION " As of this writing, his profile is still up on WWE's website.

[Fignuts]

The Hardy Boyz returning to the WWE has got 22,000,000+ views on YouTube. The Cleasning of Jeff Hardy hasn't reached 10% of that. Just to put things into perspective a bit. And everyone with access to YouTube can see all these videos, mind you. I think internet fans kind of go into a bubble with this sort of stuff.

I actually think the WWE will do a better job than TNA did with it, or could do with it. I think they will trust Matt Hardy's "creativity." I just think it will suck. More people will be subjected to it than ever, and they will ask "What the fuck were you geeks going on about?". If I am wrong, I will readily admit it.

You can't really compare the youtube videos fairly, because one is a video of the biggest wrestling event of the year, and the other is of TNA.

With the WWE machine behind it, I think they can make a lot of money off it. We are still the 2% of the fanbase. The WWE's main demographic is still kids, and they'll go for anyone WWE tells them to.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, the reason Anthem dropped out from the Broken trademark dispute was due to Matt Hardy having the paperwork needed to reject any claim Anthem made for the gimmick.

Anthem also felt it was a lot easier and a way to save face by giving their talents all rights to their gimmicks than be embarrassed in court and likely set a precedent where all their talents would own their gimmicks.

The story behind it is that the Hardys were able to show financial and contractual digressions which left Anthem in a bad way, and this may be a public saving face for the company of just saying that they are being good guys and will be letting talent keep their gimmicks because of the feeling that it would end up that way based on a precedent that would be set in the Hardys case.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Eli Drake is a really good talker.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's not a dummy, yeah?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Let him talk to ya.

[Anybody Thrilla]

That Thanksgiving episode of Impact was one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever watched in my life.

[GD]

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[TSI]

If it's over. If. It didn't draw in TNA. It didn't even draw that well on YouTube (more people have probably watched the YouTube clip of Bray Wyatt beating Matt Hardy from Raw than have seen the Broken Universe stuff). It doesn't matter if I like it or not, but I'm calling it now -- big flop. Although everyone will blame the company even though the idea itself was fucking garbage from the start.

It might sell a few t-shirts or something, but wouldn't The Hardys already be doing fine in that department? With Hardy as as singles guy, why not give it a shot? You need to stick your finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing -- but the people still watching wrestling aren't trend-setters and aren't really the sort of people whose opinions you should be listening to, by and large.

To be fair, Nothing really draws at TNA. Look at AJ. Look at Angle. Look at Joe. All Stars but didnt draw a dime really. Broken Matt is the only chance hes got to stay relevant. Why not at this point?

[Rammsteinmad]

There's no detriment to having Broken Matt in WWE. If it goes over, it makes a bit of money for the company and Hardy, helps him regain some relevance and, at the very least, throws an interesting character into the mix. If it bombs, well, Hardy was going nowhere anyway.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

The Edge and Christian podcast is really, really good.

Also, was this Starrcade event on the Network?

[XL]

Nope. At least not yet.

[Fignuts]

No, but anything worth seeing was shown on wwe.com

[Anybody Thrilla]

Why Starrcade though?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I love me some Iconic Duo.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Kairi Sane is pretty tight too.

[Lock Jaw]

John Cena has apparently been posting Watchmen-related images on his Instagram.... perhaps he will be in the HBO TV show?!

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[Emperor Smeat]

Why Starrcade though?

Just them wanting to boost the attendance of their usual shows in North Carolina. Even with the initial announcement, seemed like it was going to have a small bump at best but once Ric Flair was announced for the show, tickets sales spiked.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Moustache Mountain is a really fun team to watch.

Dunno, I guess I'm just really into NXT these days.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Holy hell, the NXT main even this week was straight up hot FIRE. Kudos to all involved there, and I don't normally dig Mandrews that much.

[Emperor Smeat]

Never knew Macho Man voiced a character on King of the Hill cartoon series.

Don't think I've ever seen this episode on FOX or Cartoon Network/Adult Swim before until tonight.

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[Lock Jaw]

Holy hell, the NXT main even this week was straight up hot FIRE. Kudos to all involved there, and I don't normally dig Mandrews that much.

Watched NXT for the second week in a row after taking a hiatus.... gonna try to get back into it.

Main event was good. Tyler Bate looking like less of a wanker/overgrown midget rassler.

[Lock Jaw]

Forgot how Mauro Ranallo can be good and then unbearable in the span of 10 seconds.

[Blue Demon]

This should be good:

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[Juan]

Never knew Macho Man voiced a character on King of the Hill cartoon series.

Don't think I've ever seen this episode on FOX or Cartoon Network/Adult Swim before until tonight.

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That’s a good episode

[GD]

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[Droford]

Never knew Macho Man voiced a character on King of the Hill cartoon series.

Don't think I've ever seen this episode on FOX or Cartoon Network/Adult Swim before until tonight.

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Doesn't top Savage on Space Ghost though

[Cool King]

I saw this thumbnail and I thought for a second that it was Dolph Ziggler in the 70's.

https://s8.postimg.org/6wwyxf9jp/download.jpg

It turns out that it's just Terry Jacks.

[Droford]

Ford suing John Cena

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/12/02/ford-sues-actor-wwe-superstar-john-cena-over-his-car/915846001/

I wonder if this impacts WM being in Detroit

[Nicky Fives]

I hate Jason Jordan's entrance, all the lights and Tron graphics are green and yellow, yet his trunks are always red.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Ultra Mantis]

Naito seems disappointed he didn't clock Hiromu in the head with that one.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hate Jason Jordan's entrance, all the lights and Tron graphics are green and yellow, yet his trunks are always red.

I've seen pictures of him in green and yellow.

[Shadrick]

I've seen pictures of him in green and yellow.

I have as well

[Juan]

Ford suing John Cena

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/12/02/ford-sues-actor-wwe-superstar-john-cena-over-his-car/915846001/

I wonder if this impacts WM being in Detroit

Doubtful

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Don't bet on it!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why Starrcade though?

A house show booked in Greensboro on Thanksgiving weekend. Why not Starrcade? It got butts in the seats.

[Droford]

Doubtful

Ford owns the Lions who play in Ford Field where WM was going to be ...

[Droford]

Cesaro and Sheamus should drive F150s since ford uses the same "Didn't raise the bar we are the bar" slogan

[Juan]

Ford owns the Lions who play in Ford Field where WM was going to be ...

I’m aware, but Cena has already come out and apologized to Ford and said he was gonna try and work it out with them

[Gerard]

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The crack in wcw must have been of exceptional quality.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[thecc]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Not sure I buy the rumor that WrestleMania is set to be in Detroit.

[slik]

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[slik]

Not sure I buy the rumor that WrestleMania is set to be in Detroit.

Detroit is out and NYC is in, the latest news.

[Fignuts]

Damn, would be cool if they went back to MSG.

Probably won't happen.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think they'll go back there. More than likely they run Barclays for it.

[Ruien]

Ford, You are going to sue John Cena? Well fuck you, Detroit won't get WM then.

[Evil Vito]

I don't think they'll go back there. More than likely they run Barclays for it.

If Vince only wants to run Mania in stadiums, they'll have to use MetLife Stadium again.

They lucked out with the weather not being bad last time. It rained during the pre-show match but that was all.

Would be interesting how the rest of the arenas that weekend shake out. They good do Mania, Raw, and SmackDown in Barclays. But the state of New Jersey might require them to use the arena across from MetLife.

[Droford]

There is no arena across from MetLife it closed

[Evil Vito]

Ah, didn't realize it had closed. So they'd have to use either the Prudential Center or Barclays. I assume one of them would host all 3 of Takeover/Raw/SmackDown so that they only have to do the arena set-up and breakdown once.

Probably Barclays just to again market it as a "New York/New Jersey WrestleMania". MSG would host the HOF again.

[Jordan]

Always the option of Yankee Stadium or Citi Field.

[Jordan]

WWE could brand a whole Wrestlemania about Yankee's.

[Evil Vito]

Always the option of Yankee Stadium or Citi Field.

Nowhere near the same capacity.

[Big Vic]

WWE WrestleMania from the Carrier Dome :cool:

[Evil Vito]

Fozzy released their touring schedule for 2018 and they have a show in Phoenix on the night of WrestleMania.

Between Wrestle Kingdom, Fozzy, and prepping for his cruise - it does not appear Jericho will be doing anything with WWE in 2018.

[slik]

I don't think they'll go back there. More than likely they run Barclays for it.

No - Metlife

[Evil Vito]

World Wrestling Entertainment will move forward with the first-ever 205 Live brand live events starting in January 2018, PWInsider.com has confirmed.

The current plan is for 205 Live to have its first standalone live events on the weekend of 1/18/18-1/20/18. We are told WWE will be targeting smaller buildings in the Northeast for that weekend, possibly the same venues they utilize for the WWE NXT brand.

It appears WWE will be taking a "let's walk before we can run" stance with the brand. The current 205 Live touring plan appears to be running 2-3 events over a weekend once a month, but beyond the January and potential February dates, we are told that nothing has been set in stone and it's being seen as something of an experiment.

Friday, Jan. 19, 2018 – Kingston, RI – The Ryan Center
Saturday, Jan. 20, 2018 – Lowell, MA – Lowell Auditorium
Sunday, Jan. 21, 2018 – Poughkeepsie, NY – Mid Hudson Civic Center

[Droford]

Doomed to fail. No way they sell tix for that

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol Mid Hudson Civic Centre. Wow.

[Destor]

Basically an indy sized show

[Big Vic]

https://s1.ticketm.net/tm/en-us/tmimages/venue/maps/ny1/48387s.gif

[Evil Vito]

Basically an indy sized show

That's essentially what they're going for.

tbf I think 205 Live would be much better suited for a small crowd. You can hear a pin drop during the show in front of the SmackDown audience.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Weird that WWE will essentially have 2 indie sized brands. They should do an under 18's division that works out of high school gyms and get all the sizes covered.

[Mr. Nerfect]

God, I wish they would just scrap 205 Live. But I was thinking last night that I can see them adding moref "brands" over the course of the next year or so. Something like an indy alternative that allows NXT to remain as it is with smaller venues that they try to get onto television. I can also see them trying to start up their own lucha league or Spanish language show, which I think is doomed to fail.

I think this 205 Live brand thing very quickly changes to become something else entirely. More inclusive, so to speak.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Vince only wants to run Mania in stadiums, they'll have to use MetLife Stadium again.

They lucked out with the weather not being bad last time. It rained during the pre-show match but that was all.

Would be interesting how the rest of the arenas that weekend shake out. They good do Mania, Raw, and SmackDown in Barclays. But the state of New Jersey might require them to use the arena across from MetLife.

I got confused between the names of the places. MetLife is what I meant. I've also expected WrestleMania in Phoenix for some time, so it's odd you mention that Jericho is in Phoenix in 2018.

[Cool King]

I kinda feel like the WWE are trying just a bit too hard to cover everything in wrestling.

They've got their main thing which is Raw & SmackDown, they've got their little smark haven that is NXT and they've got their foot in the door in British Wrestling with the UK Championship and their partnerships with UK promotions and now it looks like they're aiming for an "indie-esq" type deal with 205 Live.

They should just drop both 205 Live and their love affair with British Wrestling. Drop the UK Championship and just bring back the European Championship to television and have it the way it was before it got dropped. I don't know much about the UK Championship but from what I do know, bringing back the European Championship would be so much better than the way the UK Championship is going.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, I disagree with that. I'd keep the UK Championship and just have Pete Dunne wrestle Tyler Bate on PPVs that could use a little something extra. But yes, there shock and awe treatment towards branding is frustrating as a "purist" or whatever. Especially when you consider everything does largely have a WWE stink on it, because Vince is a control freak. At least when Coke branches out and does all its varieties they appeal to different demographics instead of just the same hardcore over 50 fan base. And then they've got water and energy drinks, which is different from the usual soda yet again, and some people probably even realize they dabble in that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Only way the 205 Live tours are going to have a chance to succeed is if WWE removes the current restrictions and the watered down cruiser style done for the division.

Wonder if this is also WWE's way of keeping the division happy since supposedly they don't work on house shows and likely only get paid for the week if they are used on RAW and/or 205 Live.

[Gerard]

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Best announcer ever, "World wide federation heavyweight championship" and "Hulk Hogan Hogan" at the end, as well as saying his name twice at the start.

[Bad News Gertner]

Oh God, Frank Talent.

[Black Widow]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PoisedAggressiveBuzzard-size_restricted.gif

Needs to cut miserable prick lose and come back.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently both Kevin Owens and his wife's Instagram accounts got hacked recently with someone trying to ruin Owens' marriage with fake cheating accusations.

Both denied it being true and Owens got rid of his Instagram account after getting it back because he was pissed at the hate being thrown towards his family.

[Destor]

A likely story

[mike adamle]

Was probably revenge from Shane McMahon after he and Sami Zayn screwed him at Hell In A Cell. Can't imagine what he has in store for Sami.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Only way the 205 Live tours are going to have a chance to succeed is if WWE removes the current restrictions and the watered down cruiser style done for the division.

Wonder if this is also WWE's way of keeping the division happy since supposedly they don't work on house shows and likely only get paid for the week if they are used on RAW and/or 205 Live.

Why do people actually think this will work? The problem isn't that these guys have bad matches. It that's that they have zero stakes and are all booked to be geeks. Making it even more of a stunt show when it is already basically a stunt-show is not going to make anything any better. Plus, bigger guys draw better. There's no one larger than life in that division other than Enzo Amore. He should probably be the lead heel manager and have a heel factory to go against Hideo Itami, who should just kick them all in the head really hard.

[Juan]

I hope it works out. The guys on the 205 Live roster deserve it

[Evil Vito]

WWE gimmick matches largely seem to be watered down and executed poorly. But Reigns seems to excel in them. Ditto for The Usos.

But then thinking about it, The Rock, Umaga, and Rikishi all seemed to always perform well when put into the confines of a gimmick match.

Must be something in the bloodline.

[Danny Electric]

How do you put something as a spoiler I don't want to ruin the upcoming NXT tapings.

[Destor]

[ spoiler ] thing youre spoiling [ / spoiler ]


No spaces

[Danny Electric]

Thank you

[Destor]

np

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Danny Electric]

So don't know if many of you have read the latest TV tapings for NXT but supposedly there's a tournament to determine the new number one contender for the NXT title.

Jonny Gargano won the tournament , however the WWE website has replaced Gargano with Velveteen Dream in his match , anyone know any more about this ?

[Droford]

So don't know if many of you have read the latest TV tapings for NXT but supposedly there's a tournament to determine the new number one contender for the NXT title.

Jonny Gargano won the tournament , however the WWE website has replaced Gargano with Velveteen Dream in his match , anyone know any more about this ?

WWEs trying to stay ahead of spoilers. However Dream gets replaced will be added in later obviously.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope it works out. The guys on the 205 Live roster deserve it

Why?

[Mr. Nerfect]

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Then Seth finishes them with a knee to the face.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm so fucking salty this morning. Why can't wrestling be good again?

[Black Widow]

I'm so fucking salty this morning. Why can't wrestling be good again?1.Cause the is roster bland as hell

2. Idiots only caring if a match was 5 stars like nerds.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You are right on both counts. I'm torn between the roster having the potential to be good if they were allowed to break the mold, but I actually think that is how they think. Look at Cody Rhodes leaving and repeating Vince McMahonisms like they are somehow profound. Honestly think they think they are doing "good" work.

[Fignuts]

Cody has been doing good work. Not great work, but good solid work. And that's a lot better than what he was accomplishing at the end of his WWE run.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, and between New Japan and PROGRESS (along with random shows of other UK indies), I'm probably enjoying wrestling more now than I have in the past 15 years at least.

If you can find somewhere to watch PROGRESS from Chapter 1, it's worth it. You actually get to see long term booking play out, something which WWE hasn't done in years.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh, I also need to check out Defiant Wrestling who rebranded from WCPW. They've got money to chuck around with Wade Barrett as the authority figure and doing an IPW invasion. Austin Aries ran in on a match on their first show.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The cruiserweight division just got more personality in one Instagram vid than a year of 205 Live has done.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcVdS4KAK_C/?taken-by=real1

[Fignuts]

Meltzer criticizing the Kane promo, saying "Nobody talks like that. Kane shouldn't".

I would like Dave Meltzer to explain to me how an evil demonic looking individual who at times displays supernatural powers is supposed to talk.

[Fignuts]

Like, it's a product for children, you fucking hack.

[thecc]

Yeah, and between New Japan and PROGRESS (along with random shows of other UK indies), I'm probably enjoying wrestling more now than I have in the past 15 years at least.

If you can find somewhere to watch PROGRESS from Chapter 1, it's worth it. You actually get to see long term booking play out, something which WWE hasn't done in years.I second this. It's so refreshing to see a product that can actually get fans emotionally invested. Their on demand service is only 7.50 and worth every cent.

[Juan]

Why?

Because the guys work hard

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fignuts, I used to love you, and I'm sure you're a great guy, but lately I have disagreed with every opinion you have on just about everything. Kane could still talk menacingly or organically. He could say "I'm going to hurt you" or something, as opposed to "we will enter the abyss and only one shall emerge." Aimed at kids doesn't mean it has to be hack. Kids aren't as stupid as you or mike adamle.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Because the guys work hard

Everyone works hard. It's endearing, but hard work is only part of performance. It's a big part, but other things merit fruit a lot more.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Again, Instagram wins against scripted promos

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcV7VoqAfTv/?taken-by=wwe

[Mr. Nerfect]

It'd be amazing how much things would change if people could cut their own promos. People were actually comparing The Miz's Talking Smack promo to "Hard Times" because it had been so long since they heard one.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It may be PG but that doesn't mean it's kids programming. Kids programming in rated G. To ignore the fact that adults watch is moronic. Also, as much as it pains me to agree with Noid (LOL) kids like good t.v. as much as anyone. I mean, they'll also accept shit, but that doesn't mean you have to set the bar low.

@Fignuts

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Shout outs to Irish promotion OTT who are about to sell out their 3rd 2,000 seater show in 8 months. Not bad for what was considered to be a dead market before they started up.

[Fignuts]

It may be PG but that doesn't mean it's kids programming. Kids programming in rated G. To ignore the fact that adults watch is moronic. Also, as much as it pains me to agree with Noid (LOL) kids like good t.v. as much as anyone. I mean, they'll also accept shit, but that doesn't mean you have to set the bar low.

@Fignuts

Of course not, but there's going to be certain things, especially pertaining to dialogue, that are geared with kids in mind. Kane's over the top, super villain dialogue is one of them.

I mean, how many of us were mesemerized by Undertaker's dark cryptic promos as kids, despite how cheesy they were looking back?

[Fignuts]

I guess I just don't think the line was so bad or out of character that it needed to be called out.

[Fignuts]

But, I honestly don't see a lot of things that catch shade as worth complaining about, so whatever.

Do you.

[Juan]

Everyone works hard. It's endearing, but hard work is only part of performance. It's a big part, but other things merit fruit a lot more.

Just my opinion man. I enjoy their work on 205 Live

[Evil Vito]

Yeah, I'm easily enjoying wrestling more than I have in the past decade. Not bad considering that only 2-3 years ago I was so fed up that I was starting to think I finally just "grew out of it" like my parents always told me I would.

Then I watched New Japan and Lucha Underground and I was back in full force.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I dont think kids would be scared of kanes current incarnation. However... I was shit scared of him when he debuted

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Wrestling is still amazing. Just not a lot of current WWE is. Which is fine. You have tons of options to choose from including older stuff

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

That said.... Kane is awful and I will stand by that lmfao

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Like, current Kane or just Kane ever?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Current Kane

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Kane in the 90s was great. Honestly, minus being good in the ring during the early 2000s... The character ran its course somewhere in 1999

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, they had a chance to fix it when he unmasked, but ruined it straight away by making his first feud Shane when he needed to recover from the awful HHH feud.

Still had it's moments though. The Lita wedding and Matt feud was a lot of fun.

[Evil Vito]

I liked Kane longer than most, but I think I was ready for him to retire around the time they shipped him to ECW. Oddly enough, that's also when heavy rumors started up about Kane getting one last run before retirement, and that was nearly a decade ago.

In hindsight I'm glad he didn't retire then because I fucking adored the Team Hell No stuff. But he could've hung it up after that and I'd have been happy as a clam.

Corporate Kane made for an interesting character and comedic foil, but I felt sad watching him go out and wrestle.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Oh yeah forgot about hell no. But that followed a decade of blunders.

[Jordan]

MAYBE if they ran Chicago and got Punk for the main.

[slik]

Corporate Kane and DBry/Kane were the last time I enjoyed Kane tbh. I don't dislike the guy or anything - I'm ok if his current feud with Braun is his 'send-off'...tho Kane also is a big enough name his send-off should be on a big show...I guess RAW 25 could be a big show.

[Cool King]

I liked Kane from the beginning to before Corporate Kane.

I felt Corporate Kane was just a shit on the Kane character and also on around fifteen years of character development.

Corporate Kane wasn't as bad as it could have been but it was still bad and easily the worst Kane for me.

Personally, even though he was only like that around for ten months, my favourite Kane was 2002-2003 Kane. The only black mark on that Kane was the whole Katie Vick fiasco.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just two friends discussing streaks &amp; stufff.<a href="https://twitter.com/WWEAsuka?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEAsuka</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/TqP3VOkbjh">pic.twitter.com/TqP3VOkbjh</a></p>&mdash; Brian Myers (@TheCurtHawkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCurtHawkins/status/937879705729998848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Cool King]

Curt Hawkins is great.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It may be PG but that doesn't mean it's kids programming. Kids programming in rated G. To ignore the fact that adults watch is moronic. Also, as much as it pains me to agree with Noid (LOL) kids like good t.v. as much as anyone. I mean, they'll also accept shit, but that doesn't mean you have to set the bar low.

@Fignuts

This is 100% spot-on.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Of course not, but there's going to be certain things, especially pertaining to dialogue, that are geared with kids in mind. Kane's over the top, super villain dialogue is one of them.

I mean, how many of us were mesemerized by Undertaker's dark cryptic promos as kids, despite how cheesy they were looking back?

Nah, it was awful. And "geared with kids in mind" is a huge problem, because these adults can't even gear things to people in their own demographic.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just my opinion man. I enjoy their work on 205 Live

That's fair enough. I'm sure they're fun in their certain ways. It's good to know that someone is a fan, haha.

[Mr. Nerfect]

On Kane:

He's actually a big part of why I got into wrestling. Not his ring work or even the character, but something about his positioning endeared itself to me and then he had that 2001 Royal Rumble appearance which I wasn't expecting. It was a nice little vindicating moment for supporting him.

They've fucked up his gimmick so many times. I mean, they basically just threw a lot of it out the window right after his initial run was done. He served his purpose, but then instead of going away he stuck around and they gave him a voice, a singlet, a new mask with a different singlet, a sexy backstory, took the mask away, turned him face and heel so many times, put the mask back on, made him a social climber and now put the mask back on him again.

I've always considered Kane a "solid" big man, but he really hasn't had that many matches that even approach good, and my subjectivity was probably clouding that. I think people were just taken in by similar things as me, or variants. There are lots of things that "work" about the Kane gimmick, and I think many of us have felt sorry for how they've "fucked him" over the years, despite him turning something that should have lasted two years into something that has stuck around for two decades.

I'm sure he's a good presence in the locker-room, and I did get a little kick out of Team Hell No, and how helped provide a platform for Daniel Bryan to get "WWE over," if you know what I mean by that? But WrestleMania XXX was a fine place to squash him and then send him out. But then he was top heel again. Then he dominated the 2015 Royal Rumble. Now he's top heel again. It's just enough.

[Gerard]

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Is it just me or has Matt got fake upper teeth? Totally different colour from the bottom ones, and this woken thing....:shifty:

[Emperor Smeat]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/27f309236bde52e3d3fba16c03c07f85/tumblr_p0jtsbhVck1u1ljrzo1_500.gif

[Fignuts]

Creative has nothing for you.

[Vastardikai]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/27f309236bde52e3d3fba16c03c07f85/tumblr_p0jtsbhVck1u1ljrzo1_500.gif

You know, the most impressive part of this is the fact they pulled it off during an earthquake. Fuck Kevin Dunn.

[Fignuts]

In all honesty though, they'll never get over by just going out and wrestling, when the main eventers who have well established characters and time to connect with the audience wrestle the same style.

Cruisers in wcw got over with just their ring work, because 99% of the time, everything else on the card was dogshit.

Feel like cruisers should have been an nxt thing where the smark crowd will cheer great work regardless. Then they could move up to the main roster and see some actual progression in their career instead of being deadlocked into a sigle division that will never be anything more than a third string title.

[Destor]

Hate that camera cut half was through. Keeps you from really taking it in

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah, the shot itself would have been pretty great with just 1 cut instead of two. The last cut wasn't even needed since it ate into the move's impact and like everything in WWE, was micromanaged more than needed.

[Jordan]

That move is fucking stupid.

[Jordan]

Imagine Cactus Jack wrestling in little tights.

Now wait, stop imagining that, just look at Kassious Ohno.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Hate that camera cut half was through. Keeps you from really taking it in

Yeah, I honestly believe that half the time I think the actual matches are so much better outside the WWE, a lot of it is down to the camerawork.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Congratulations are in order!

According to the Twitter of Hiromu Takahashi, Darryl Takahashi Jr., the son of his stuffed animal pet Darryl and his stuffed animal pet’s wife Carol, was born on 12/3

[#BROKEN Hasney]

https://i.imgur.com/5DBDUQl.gif

[Anybody Thrilla]

Kassius Ohno wouldn't be so bad if he just got some better gear.

[Destor]

and lost 30 lbs or so

[owenbrown]

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And that was the last time Curt Hawkins was ever seen again. :shifty:

[slik]

Sasha vs Alexa Bliss happening r/n in Abu Dhabi, the first women ever allowed to wrestle for WWE there...but due to women showing skin being illegal they must be covered from neck to toe.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Historic Moment , Ladies and Gentlemen. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEAbuDhabi?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEAbuDhabi</a> <a href="https://t.co/I6wzeNQWmZ">pic.twitter.com/I6wzeNQWmZ</a></p>&mdash; “Glorious” M7md. (@GloriousM7md) <a href="https://twitter.com/GloriousM7md/status/938825881618927616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[TSI]

Kassius Ohno wouldn't be so bad if he just got some better gear.

Not saying he should go the kevin owens route, but at least have something a little more flattering

[Vastardikai]

Not saying he should go the kevin owens route, but at least have something a little more flattering

Long tights and a singlet.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, Sheamus is currently dealing with a potential career ending injury.

While they said Sheamus was out of action last week because he was on a trip back to Ireland, he’s actually rehabbing spinal stenosis, which is not a good thing at all. Spinal stenosis ended the careers of Edge and Steve Austin

[Bad News Gertner]

Here's the debut episode of Prime Time Wrestling from January 1985 with original hosts Jesse Ventura and Jack Reynolds who was AWFUL. Gorilla would replace Reynolds in August.

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[Bad News Gertner]

I have the entire 1985 set of Prime Time Wrestling shows in my collection. I don't even think the Network has 1985 up last time I checked.

[Fignuts]

Not saying he should go the kevin owens route, but at least have something a little more flattering

He would pretty much have to wrestle in a track suit.

[Destor]

Hoodie and sweat pants

[Vastardikai]

According to the Observer, Sheamus is currently dealing with a potential career ending injury.

The lesson here? Don't team with Cesaro...

[Helmsphere]

The lesson here? Don't team with Cesaro...

Still too soon Rowdy, Still too soon.

Thinking about Tyson, makes me think about Old Wayne...He still kicking btw?

[Vastardikai]

Still too soon Rowdy, Still too soon.

Thinking about Tyson, makes me think about Old Wayne...He still kicking btw?

The character ended up regaining the ability to walk, and was primarily used as a manager, and a rare tag team appearance. Went by the "Attila" moniker when he was last used, the manager of the Barbarian Nation that consisted of Visigoth, Ostragoth, and Hun.

On the bright side, if Sheamus has to retire, they could always do a Kings of Wrestling reunion.

[Fignuts]

Gallows and Anderson on Stonecold podcast.

Story of Festus' creation is amazing.

Vince telling Gallows what he wants the face to be, then the two of them going back and forth making stupid vacant faces to eachother and drooling on themselves trying to get it right.

[Droford]

Kevin Nash had knee surgery and decided to post the pic of his knee..its..what you'd expect it to look like.

[owenbrown]

Gallows and Anderson on Stonecold podcast.

Story of Festus' creation is amazing.

Vince telling Gallows what he wants the face to be, then the two of them going back and forth making stupid vacant faces to eachother and drooling on themselves trying to get it right.

Did they do their Stone Cold impersonation?

[TSI]

He would pretty much have to wrestle in a track suit.

hey whatever works

[Anybody Thrilla]

Those original Wyatt promos were fucking great. What happened?

[Emperor Smeat]

Vince and WWE's booking took its toll. They thought because they had the next Undertaker in their hands, they didn't need to take care of Bray's character and its shown the past several years.

[Fignuts]

That's so stupid though, because part of thevreason taker got over in the first pkace, was that he ws heavily protected, and rarely ever lost.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Hey but Road Dogg said winning and losing doesnt matter.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Generally speaking it probably doesn't matter. However, when you lose so much that's all people can remember, you kinda dun fucked up lol

[#1-norm-fan]

If the outcomes of matches don't matter then why watch a show centered around matches?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm not a big fan of Sheamus, but that sucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't really mind the Kassius Ohno attire. I know it is regarded as "horrible," but for what they're going for I don't hate it. I'm kind of more bothered when a guy is obviously covering up fat. Owens looks way more insecure to me than Ohno. But I guess it doesn't really fit a "main eventer." That's not what Ohno is supposed to be though. I dunno, just don't hate it for him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In all honesty though, they'll never get over by just going out and wrestling, when the main eventers who have well established characters and time to connect with the audience wrestle the same style.

Cruisers in wcw got over with just their ring work, because 99% of the time, everything else on the card was dogshit.

Feel like cruisers should have been an nxt thing where the smark crowd will cheer great work regardless. Then they could move up to the main roster and see some actual progression in their career instead of being deadlocked into a sigle division that will never be anything more than a third string title.

That's exactly the point. "See some actual progression." That's the problem with the cruisers. It's lower-card stuff. Always has been to that company and always will be.

The CWC was a hot button. It was a novel concept and everything had stakes. It was produced to feel different and sporty. That should have been it. Take the guys that work well and put them in NXT or on the main roster and don't label them as "small." In modern WWE where half the roster is small, you don't need to make them comparatively even smaller next to the small guys.

Then you can run a CWC 2 and try and get it on the USA Network or something. There's less commitment so people might give it a shot. Then you take the talent that work from that and rinse, wash, repeat.

When you have guys on the roster who are small enough for the division, but are "above" it (Finn Balor), how are people supposed to take the belt seriously? It's Velocity all over again. Doesn't matter if they go faster or harder or longer. It's not important and everybody knows it's not important. Drew Gulak can be as entertaining as he wants, if he's not being entertaining with the guys who matter, it doesn't matter.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That being said, if they are going "all-in" on 205 Live, then moving it away from the other shows is probably the best thing for all involved. That way at least the top guys on the "brand" can be booked to not look like geeks. They might even move Finn Balor there and have him feud with Hideo Itami over the belt. When you move up Oney Lorcan, Danny Burch, Johnny Gargano (I cringe about that one), and maybe even move over Chad Gable from SmackDown, you have a very decent little roster developing.

But I see it turning into a half-way house between NXT and the main roster very quickly.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Rumor going around the net involves Cena's relationship with Nikki Bella is starting to cause him serious money problems and a possible reason why he got in trouble with Ford for selling a car given to him as part of a sponsorship deal.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

https://www.facebook.com/BTYAdmin/videos/1690133064409195/

Happy Rusev Day, Maschka!

[Fignuts]

So stop buying her shit. Jesus.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Rumor going around the net involves Cena's relationship with Nikki Bella is starting to cause him serious money problems and a possible reason why he got in trouble with Ford for selling a car given to him as part of a sponsorship deal.

If Cena isn't making money, how is anyone?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's making it. Nikki is spending.

[Emperor Smeat]

So stop buying her shit. Jesus.

That and I'd assume he never cut back on his own expensive hobbies over the years and its now coming back to haunt him.

Seems the upcoming wedding is going to devastate him even more since supposedly he doesn't have enough cash on hand for their current plans.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Traditionally, the wedding should be on Nikki's dad.

[Anybody Thrilla]

He did mention on Unfiltered in December of 2015 (don't know why I watched that today) that he goes to dinner with Nikki ever single night. He could for sure cut back on some things.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Traditionally, the wedding should be on Nikki's dad.

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Is he their dad for real??? I was wondering why he was sitting at the table during that clip of Total Bellas on Unfiltered.

[Lock Jaw]

He married their mom..... not biological father, but I think biological dad not in the picture

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ah, that makes a little more sense. Pretty funny to think about as I was just watching the Punk/Bryan match from Over the Limit 2012 yesterday, and the main event was John Cena v. Johnny Ace. Ridiculous that closed the show.

[#1-norm-fan]

More ridiculous that that was the match they followed up John Cena beating Brock Lesnar with. That match was epic and turned a smark crowd onto Cena's side. How the fuck did they think having him job to John Laurinaitis was the logical next step?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ugh, I'm starting to get pissed just thinking about wrestling booking from five years ago. Am I mental?

[Fignuts]

As a 90's all japan fan, I remember being hopeful that he would surprise everyone and hit Cena with an Ace Crusher.

But it was John Cena beating up an old man for 15 minutes.

What a hero..

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ugh, I'm starting to get pissed just thinking about wrestling booking from five years ago. Am I mental?

no

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think the evil GM kinda jumped the shark with People Power.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ugh, I'm starting to get pissed just thinking about wrestling booking from five years ago. Am I mental?

It's OK, sooth your mind by thinking about the excellent booking they have today.

...Wait

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol I loved Johnny Ace as Raw GM. I thought he was hilarious.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Evil authority figure jumped the shark in 2001 during the invasion angle. Yet... here we are.

[Fignuts]

Need a heel authority figure that is certifiably insane. Like putting The Joker in charge of Arkham.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Broken Stephanie McMahon

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Need a heel authority figure that is certifiably insane. Like putting The Joker in charge of Arkham.

Broken Stephanie McMahon

Nah, don't need to go Broken, just take another ex-TNA talent gimmick.

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[Fignuts]

Was he even a heel?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I don't know, but he sure as hell could be.