"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Volare]

Wonder how much that cost for the shout out...

[XL]

I hope there was a transaction involved. Otherwise the President is posting about wrestling in the middle of a worldwide crisis.

[XL]

I don’t think I’ll be telling anybody anything their didn’t already know but, the Network is not good.

I was thinking about the participants in the Cruiserweight and Mae Young Classics so used the search function to search for the shows. The 1st MY Classic is listed in there as Season 1, but not the 2nd season, although all of the matches are on there separately. Makes no sense.

[#1-norm-fan]

There are times where I think “Maybe I’m on the wrong side of the battle” when I long for pro wrestling to be more like it used to be.

But then something comes along to remind me that Trump and McMahon are firmly together on the other side of this battle and I instantly think “No. I’m definitely right.”

[Gerard]

Tbf, the Buckle Bomb is dangerous enough when performed correctly (see Rollins vs Sting, Rollins vs Balor) maybe they need to ban the move altogether? But, yeah, they definitely need to tell Nia not to do it.


Buckle Bomb is whiplash waiting to happen at least and a spinal injury at worst, though considering Nia's past she can easily fuck up even simpler moves. Remember the shoulder breaker to Charlotte, she just dumped her on her head after the move.

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[XL]

Yeah I saw that the other day and winced. Not good.

[XL]

Question; is the search function on the forum faulty? I searched using a keyword and poster name but it’s giving me no results. When I search for posts by user it shows me results from 2013-2014.

[GD]

Buckle Bomb is whiplash waiting to happen at least and a spinal injury at worst, though considering Nia's past she can easily fuck up even simpler moves. Remember the shoulder breaker to Charlotte, she just dumped her on her head after the move.

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I remember watching it live. Nasty.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Nia sucks. She has no natural ability, no natural charisma and she isn't safe in the ring.

[Seanny One Ball]

I hope there was a transaction involved. Otherwise the President is posting about wrestling in the middle of a worldwide crisis.

He still would be even with payment

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Triple H's celebration segment on Smackdown originally was meant to be a lot shorter in length.

Would explain why it quickly unraveled and became an entertaining but very odd trainwreck to watch on tv.

From Fightful Select: Not that it's any surprise, but the Triple H 25th anniversary segment went way over the planned time for it on tonight's show. Fortunately, that part was pre-taped. It was originally set to go about 10 minutes, but ended up going closer to 19-20 as they filmed it.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Jerry Lawler's reason for why he called one of Akira Tozawa's moves a "Ramen Noodle Moonsault" is just as dumb as when he mentioned it on RAW a couple weeks ago.

Basically Byron Saxton and Tom Phillps are to blame for not going along with his inappropriate gag and letting his dumb comment be exposed out in the open.

On the April 13th edition of the show, Lawler was calling an Akira Tozawa-Austin Theory match with Tom Phillips and Byron Saxton when he referred to a Tozawa senton as a "Ramen noodle moonsault". The comment was later edited out of the Hulu edition of the show.

At the 53 minute mark, Lawler asked his co-host if he could address the elephant in the room about the comment and why being racist was "the furthest thing from his mind."

He said he was doing commentary in 2016 with Mauro Ranallo and given Ranallo's history with Japanese wrestling, he heard him call a move something that he figured was made up because he had never heard of it before. He said he later made up some names of what he thought would be funny moves to go back at Ranallo at when he called a move.

"I would say something like, "There’s the Ramen Noodle moonsault" and he would say, "Oh, King! You know there's no such thing!" and we would just go on. I was doing it just to play devil’s advocate with Mauro. If I were still doing commentary with Michael Cole or JR, we had the chemistry to where each one of those guys would have known that I was almost making a fool out of myself by claiming like I was acting like I knew what this unbelievable looking move was.

"Then either Cole or JR would have said ‘"Oh, King! You know better than that!" With Byron and Tom, we don’t have that chemistry yet. We have only been working together for a short time so when I said that, they didn’t even acknowledge it so it kind of went out and they just kept talking and I kept talking. I didn’t think anything about it either.”

Lawler and his co-host then intimated that the intent was that the joke was supposed to be on him for being behind the times.

"That’s where me, Bobby Heenan, Jesse Ventura...all of the heel commentators do that sort of stuff and the joke is on yourself that the people out there say, "Look at that idiot. He doesn’t even know what he’s talking about and he thinks he does.' That's where the joke was."

Lawler did not apologize for the comment and remains on the commentary team for Raw.

[DaveWadding]

Oh yeah, Aries had a really nice one. Also, King Cureno...err, sorry, El Hijo del Fantasma has a really killer one. I was actually watching Samoa Joe v. Finn Balor on the influential NXT matches yesterday, and he did a really nice one. I don't recall Keith Lee doing it, but it seems like something he'd do.

It's very possible for it to look good, but it's been happening a LOT, and I think it looks bad more often than not.

I wasn’t aware Fantasma was King Cuerno. Maybe I am interested in him after all.

Yeah, looks a little different with his long hair. He did a stint in Impact after Lucha Underground. I'm looking forward to him.


Plz move these posts to the appropriate thread. Thx.

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?p=5340698#post5340698

[Anybody Thrilla]

These posts were made before that thread, and you know it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

That quote function is all yours, though.

[XL]

So it’s Lawler’s colleagues fault that they didn’t want to draw attention to his racist commentary by addressing it on air? Nice one.

[Droford]

Heenan and Ventura wouldn't last an hour on commentary today #sadfacts

[XL]

Only they would because they’d be smart enough and talented enough to align to the standards on modern society and still remain hilarious. Lawler has largely been a one-trick pony on commentary which worked in the 90s but the company and society have moved on since then.

Tbf, back in the 80s there’s a strong chance that the actual move would have been called the Ramen Noodle Moonsault”.

[Evil Vito]

While I don't agree, there is a point to what Lawler's saying.

One of the go-to kneejerk responses when a joke like that gets made in wrestling is for people to say, "lol wot would u have done when jesse ventura and bobby heenan were around".

But the point is that Heenan was always a clown, and always presented as being wrong. You knew that if Heenan said something, you were supposed to disagree with it, and someone like Vince or Gorilla Monsoon would call him out on it.

But even if Lawler's trying to do that now, I couldn't tell you on a day-to-day basis if Jerry Lawler is supposed to be a clownish heel commentator or a beloved and respected babyface Hall of Famer. Without that consistency, that kind of joke can't land, even if you can handwave away the racism.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Lawler used to say some really awful things on commentary back in the day, but as someone pointed out, EVERYTHING he said was awful, and it was in alignment with his heel character. Today's Lawler just comes off as senile.

[Sepholio]

PUPPIES!!!!!

[Anybody Thrilla]

PUPPIES!!!!!

That was tame compared to the shit he was talking to Jake Roberts in the mid nineties.

[ozzman6669]

The promos he did on Goldust are even worst ! At least in wwe he was a heel, in Memphis he was a face with the same promos !!

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ha, I guess it's all relative, huh?

I remember him flat out saying "fag", unless I'm imagining that. I don't think I am, though.

[Gerard]

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That Spike was really a cunt hair away from impaling rollins. :eek:

First time i've even noticed the cage has spikes on it that secure into carriers on the ring.

[Gerard]

Ha, I guess it's all relative, huh?

I remember him flat out saying "fag", unless I'm imagining that. I don't think I am, though.

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[Vastardikai]

The promos he did on Goldust are even worst ! At least in wwe he was a heel, in Memphis he was a face with the same promos !!

I remember him telling Kamala he was gonna "wet his lips and stick him to the wall."

[Seanny One Ball]

Only they would because they’d be smart enough and talented enough to align to the standards on modern society and still remain hilarious. Lawler has largely been a one-trick pony on commentary which worked in the 90s but the company and society have moved on since then.




Jerry Lawler is a one trick pony but Bobby Heenan and Jesse Ventura were too talented to make the same mistakes now? They all had the same proclivity for saying outrageous things...

Jesse Ventura and Bobby Heenan wouldn't last five minutes today and you know it.

Personally I find Jerry Lawler to be the best of the bunch and I think wrestling heels should go for cheap heat as often as they can get a reaction with it.

Bring it back.

[Seanny One Ball]

JR & King were the best of all time.

All time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I prefer Gorilla and Bobby @Seanny

[Seanny One Ball]

Gorilla and Bobby are second for me.
Ventura was okay, I don't really rate him though because his voice annoys me.

[XL]

JR & Heyman > JR & King

[Gerard]

https://i.imgur.com/ru5dvFO.jpg

And then there was one. :(

[Lock Jaw]

Did you just find that out now?

[slik]

omg

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[Sepholio]

LMFAO

[Evil Vito]

And for only $74.99 you can have Vince directly shit into your mouth!

[Gerard]

Did you just find that out now?

Hardly, just puts it into perspective seeing that pic.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MY GIRLFRIEND JUST CALLED ME A JOBBER AND DUMPED ME</p>&mdash; ONEY LORCAN (@_StarDESTROYER) <a href="https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1254830296324878344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

Hardly, just puts it into perspective seeing that pic.



Haha, n00b

[Seanny One Ball]

Sorry, Gerard but LJ needs to save face

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MY GIRLFRIEND JUST CALLED ME A JOBBER AND DUMPED ME</p>&mdash; ONEY LORCAN (@_StarDESTROYER) <a href="https://twitter.com/_StarDESTROYER/status/1254830296324878344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well to be fair..

[Lock Jaw]

I remember those Hart Foundation days fondly.... they were some of the biggest faces ever

[GD]

Droford would make for an apt jobber with enhancements who works enhancement matches while taking enhancements.

[Seanny One Ball]

You should enhance your posting ability

[GD]

And you should probably enhance deez nuts

[Bad News Gertner]

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[Vastardikai]

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[drave]

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jesus. one of the best powerbombs i've ever witnessed.

[XL]

Probably not tie best to take though. Bet Eddie had a sore neck the following morning.

[Jordan]

I love Benoit in those yellow tights so Bruce Lee.

[RP]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/f5/ca/edf5ca983cd9b0ca64079fd92b3b99aa.gif

Benoit giving Eddie CTE right there.

[Bad News Gertner]

This might be the most impressive feat of strength that I've ever seen Scott Norton pull off

https://i.imgur.com/Oc1RvWp.gif

[Gerard]

https://i.imgur.com/nIvpM3u.jpg

[Volare]

Pretty good listen.

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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. <a href="https://t.co/4OZ02FNbLi">pic.twitter.com/4OZ02FNbLi</a></p>&mdash; RJ City (@RJCity1) <a href="https://twitter.com/RJCity1/status/1254893112176062466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

https://i.redd.it/bj8a2a7td6g41.jpg

[XL]

I mean, we pretty much have that now with the stupid red lighting.

[slik]

First ever ladder match in WWE


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[Emperor Smeat]

According to WWE, New Day is currently considered by them to be the greatest faction in WWE history.

Their main points were them holding tag records in company history and not changing as much as a group since their debut unlike other notable factions. Also because they had their own brand cereal.

https://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/article/the-new-day-greatest-faction-of-all-time

[Gerard]

According to WWE, New Day is currently considered by them to be the greatest faction in WWE history.

Their main points were them holding tag records in company history and not changing as much as a group since their debut unlike other notable factions. Also because they had their own brand cereal.

https://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/article/the-new-day-greatest-faction-of-all-time

:wtf:

[Lock Jaw]

I mean, you look at it that way and they are kinda right

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, this is going to be one of the more interesting things you hear today. <a href="https://t.co/3ONdQQRMT5">https://t.co/3ONdQQRMT5</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTalk (@WrestleTalk_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTalk_TV/status/1255265662253117442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

Wow!

[GD]

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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, this is going to be one of the more interesting things you hear today. <a href="https://t.co/3ONdQQRMT5">https://t.co/3ONdQQRMT5</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTalk (@WrestleTalk_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTalk_TV/status/1255265662253117442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Meltzer on this:

https://i.postimg.cc/TwRsfBx4/Screenshot-2020-04-29-at-2-11-10-AM.png

[ClockShot]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, this is going to be one of the more interesting things you hear today. <a href="https://t.co/3ONdQQRMT5">https://t.co/3ONdQQRMT5</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTalk (@WrestleTalk_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTalk_TV/status/1255265662253117442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Since their stock market crash a few weeks ago, it's been slowly creeping back up.

Now's probably the best time if someone is interested in buying. But at these times, who?

[Droford]

Disney buying WWE kills it

[Droford]

The suckiest part too is the only real bright spot from Disney owning WWE (WWE Univese Theme Park) is never going to happen in the current you can't do anything fun in large crowds climate

[ClockShot]

This topic should be it's own thread.

"You bought WWE. What's your plans for it?"

Be interesting to hear some of the ideas we would have.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You have the ability to make threads, just so you know. :y:

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oscar nominated director Darren Aronofsky attempts an over the top rope dive on the set of The Wrestler <a href="https://t.co/T4D4XBhhEr">pic.twitter.com/T4D4XBhhEr</a></p>&mdash; Ciaràn (@CiaranRH) <a href="https://twitter.com/CiaranRH/status/1254357560993419266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TOPE SUICIDA!!!

[Black Widow]

According to WWE, New Day is currently considered by them to be the greatest faction in WWE history.

Their main points were them holding tag records in company history and not changing as much as a group since their debut unlike other notable factions. Also because they had their own brand cereal.

https://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/article/the-new-day-greatest-faction-of-all-time:rofl::rofl::rofl:

They are the greatest the same way Lebron is better than Jordan or Kobe.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oscar nominated director Darren Aronofsky attempts an over the top rope dive on the set of The Wrestler <a href="https://t.co/T4D4XBhhEr">pic.twitter.com/T4D4XBhhEr</a></p>&mdash; Ciaràn (@CiaranRH) <a href="https://twitter.com/CiaranRH/status/1254357560993419266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TOPE SUICIDA!!!

Suicida is correct lol

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, I like how they put down the big crash mat for him, but he still manages to almost kill himself

[Bad News Gertner]

When did they start calling a suicide dive that. I hate "Topa Suicida"

[Lock Jaw]

So do I actually.

I blame Mauro Ranallo trying to "sound cool"

[Anybody Thrilla]

They probably just didn't want to mention suicide so blatantly. Seems like a PR thing to me.

[Danny Electric]

First thing Disney going to do if they buy WWE is make Rinku from that new tag team in NXT the Universal Champion , saying they already made a movie about him.

[Danny Electric]

Plus just looking through the ages of the active wrestlers in WWE (including NXT) and didn’t realise the lack of guys in their 20’s. Also didn’t realise how old Bobby Fish was, they need to start pushing some of the younger talent soon.

[Emperor Smeat]

When did they start calling a suicide dive that. I hate "Topa Suicida"

I'd assume at least since the first Cruiserweight Classic tournament so probably somewhere around 2016.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Plus just looking through the ages of the active wrestlers in WWE (including NXT) and didn’t realise the lack of guys in their 20’s. Also didn’t realise how old Bobby Fish was, they need to start pushing some of the younger talent soon.

This has been the case since like 03

[Damian Rey 2.0]

When did they start calling a suicide dive that. I hate "Topa Suicida"

Me too. It's one thing if the guy is a luchador. Like when Rey Fenix does it. But Jesus just say suicide dive. The worstis Excalibur because he uses the same inflection every. Single. Time.

"Topa suiciduuuuuuhhh"

[Emperor Smeat]

Plus just looking through the ages of the active wrestlers in WWE (including NXT) and didn’t realise the lack of guys in their 20’s. Also didn’t realise how old Bobby Fish was, they need to start pushing some of the younger talent soon.

They have a bunch of young talent in the PC but majority of them either are too raw or don't come from established indie backgrounds.

Outside of some exceptions, NXT stopped being an effective developmental system years ago and instead became just a place for Triple H and co. to hoard as much notable indie talent as possible.

Even when they do have notable young talent, they don't really do much with them because of the log jam of talent in the company. Austin Theory is only 22 years old but doesn't feel special and is just another guy because of how NXT and RAW has handled him. Deonna Purrazzo is another young talent that could have been a big star for NXT's women division but they did jack shit with her.

[BigCrippyZ]

They have a bunch of young talent in the PC but majority of them either are too raw or don't come from established indie backgrounds.

Outside of some exceptions, NXT stopped being an effective developmental system years ago and instead became just a place for Triple H and co. to hoard as much notable indie talent as possible.

Even when they do have notable young talent, they don't really do much with them because of the log jam of talent in the company. Austin Theory is only 22 years old but doesn't feel special and is just another guy because of how NXT and RAW has handled him. Deonna Purrazzo is another young talent that could have been a big star for NXT's women division but they did jack shit with her.

This is what happens when 1. you have too much talent and/or access to talent because you can pay them so well...and 2. it's even worse if you're so arrogant and/or stupid that you believe you can systematize everything, especially when you believe that you can and should teach and script all your talent to wrestle, promo, etc., the same way and style.

The result is you get a bunch of underdeveloped, bland, no talent, hacks who don't know how to actually do anything except what they're told to do. The especially don't know how to get themselves, their opponents, or their feuds or matches over with anyone with a functioning brain between the ages of 10 to 60 that isn't watching out of sheer habit or boredom.

[Volare]

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[Gerard]

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[Seanny One Ball]

He still bears an uncanny resemblance to Little Richard

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently Tony wrote all the taped episodes in a matter of minutes with Cody helping to structure programs and matches. That’s awesome! The shows were heavily influenced by old school territories like NWA and Memphis wrestling. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/XMq51LkvjC">https://t.co/XMq51LkvjC</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling Info (@aewinfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/aewinfo/status/1255702925013323783?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITLE OF YOUTUBE VIDEO: “WWE Superstar Bobby Lashley gets the most EXTREME chiropractic adjustments?” <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/agFJp5YgKl">pic.twitter.com/agFJp5YgKl</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1255909355292995584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Tony 'very handsome' Khan

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE might be even more worried about a potential coronavirus outbreak happening at their PC due to all the tapings held there the past few weeks.

Enacted new rules that are even more stricter than before in regards to what talent are allowed to do in the building.

Regular training at the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, FL has reportedly stopped during the coronavirus pandemic, according to Wrestling Observer Radio.

It was noted that WWE talents who are at the Performance Center for TV tapings are not allowed to use the weight room and gym facilities while they are there. The Performance Center is reportedly shut down for any kind of training right now, according to the report, indicating that other talents who are not there for TV can't just show up to work out as they normally would before the pandemic.

WWE talents that are brought to the Performance Center for tapings are reportedly spending most of their time outside of the building, and aren't hanging out inside. It was noted that talents are only allowed in for their match or segment, or other work, and then must go back out. They are also getting dressed in their gear outside of the normal area.

[Bad News Gertner]

Learned this today.

A lot of Dan Severn's MMA wins were works. If you look at the names on his record it shows that he defeated Tyson Smith in Winning via tko at an Action Wrestling show.

Tyson Smith is of course Kenny Omega.

[Seanny One Ball]

I think somebody has been having fun with Wiki again.
Seems like a legitimate mistake but Kenny Omega isn't the Tyson Smith you are talking about.

https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/record/Tyson-Smith-22395

A few people have made this mistake. The real Tyson Smith actually has a lot in common with Kenny Omega because they both fight girls.

https://absolutemixedwrestling.com/pages/tyson-smith

[Seanny One Ball]

I am doing a deep dive to drag up more info because I am finding claims that Omega says he fought Severn and Fulton.

Maybe the other Tyson Smith that wrestles women is the fraud...

I need to find out the truth.

[Seanny One Ball]

Hmmm, seems weird for a 160lbs guy to be wrestling women and Severns...
This is a weird coincidence but I think there may even be a third Tyson Smith.

I find it hard to believe Kenny Omega fought between 2005 and 2008 in at least 7 documented mma matches, especially since I can't find any pictures or footage so far.

Reddit says it's true, Wiki agrees but Sherdog ain't saying shit...

[Seanny One Ball]

I can find more to support the notion than not, but there is no real evidence of it. The MMA profiles match his wiki bio and age so it probably is him.
I'm going to go with it, seems like February 2007 was a wild month.

Kinda pissed that no mma forum has footage of any of this nor any pictures.

[Bad News Gertner]

I think somebody has been having fun with Wiki again.
Seems like a legitimate mistake but Kenny Omega isn't the Tyson Smith you are talking about.

https://m.sherdog.com/fighter/record/Tyson-Smith-22395

A few people have made this mistake. The real Tyson Smith actually has a lot in common with Kenny Omega because they both fight girls.

https://absolutemixedwrestling.com/pages/tyson-smith

I wanted that to be real so bad lol

[Seanny One Ball]

I honestly think it might be.

I mean Tyson Smith has a few profiles on MMA sites and they all agree he is 36 from Winnipeg except that fucking weird one that wrestles women for cash. He is Canadian though...

It's infuriating because there isn't one picture of any of the events he fought on.
I literally went through a comprehensive list of Kenny Omega wrestling matches and cross checked the dates with the MMA matches just to see if he was busy elsewhere on any of those dates.
He wasn't.

It could be a mad coincidence or it could be true.

I kinda want it to be true now.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dude fought four times in February 2007 and twice in April 2007.
Two matches on two separate nights too.

This is the weirdest MMA record I have seen for ages.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently one of the ideas for the end of the Vince McMahon's illegitimate son angle involved Vince killing Hornswoggle by chucking him off a bridge.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nowadays evenings are reserved for finally cleaning out closet. I don’t know which writer came up with this nearly 13 years ago and I can pretty much guarantee it didn’t make it to Vince but you got to admire someone who swings for the fences. <a href="https://t.co/sDyoDL5SPk">pic.twitter.com/sDyoDL5SPk</a></p>&mdash; Brian Gewirtz (@bfg728) <a href="https://twitter.com/bfg728/status/1255710269591957509?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

In a pillowcase no less

[Seanny One Ball]

Drown him in a Dixie cup

[Lock Jaw]

Roll him up in a carpet and throw him off a bridge!

Tee hee hee

[Emperor Smeat]

The Rock about to layeth the smacketh down on WWE's ratings for their RAW empty arena shows.

There is no way this can make Vince McMahon happy. NBC will be airing Titan Games, the reality show Dwayne Johnson is producing, on Monday nights from 8-9 p.m. starting 5/25. The first episode will air from 8-10 p.m. as the season premiere. The first season averaged six million viewers. The show was not scheduled to run this early but with the absence of sports on television, NBC moved up its air date. Besides Johnson, former WWE head Raw writer Brian Gewirtz is an executive producer of the show

[Bad News Gertner]

I honestly think it might be.

I mean Tyson Smith has a few profiles on MMA sites and they all agree he is 36 from Winnipeg except that fucking weird one that wrestles women for cash. He is Canadian though...

It's infuriating because there isn't one picture of any of the events he fought on.
I literally went through a comprehensive list of Kenny Omega wrestling matches and cross checked the dates with the MMA matches just to see if he was busy elsewhere on any of those dates.
He wasn't.

It could be a mad coincidence or it could be true.

I kinda want it to be true now.

It happened on a pro wrestling card so it very well could be

[Seanny One Ball]

I've checked that card on a couple of sites and it only records two MMA matches on the show, no mention of any wrestling besides in the promotion name. So weird.

This is where you were spot on about Severn in the first place, he fought on suspiciously tiny shows that were filled with untrained fighters and taking a dive for $50 against a legend beats having your arm ripped off.

This is why Cornette and others think MMA is basically pro wrestling all over again.
It's hard to argue when you look at a carny show.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol he fought Shannon Rich in back to back matches and did the same exact finish. One march was in like Alaska and the other was somewhere down south in like California so they didn't think anyone would notice.

[Seanny One Ball]

Shannon Ritch, Travis Fulton, Dan Severn... Anyone that fights unheard-of's on a weekly basis will have a whole lot of suspicious data in their record.

I might waste my day doing that actually.
Statistical analysis...

[Bad News Gertner]

My favourite worked MMA fight is Takada vs Kyle Sturgeon where Sturgeon drops Takada right away with a kick and just stands there. Probably because the Yakuza were sharpening their knives in the front row.

3ZL11fBSLPw

[Seanny One Ball]

Mark Coleman fixed a few when he was broke, always in Japan.
Pancrase and Pride had a lot of fixed fights obviously but people forget guys like Ken and Frank Shamrock did it too. Vernon White was pretty notorious for it.

Pretty much all Kimbo fights were fixed. Dive money.

The Japs perfected that formula for everyone to enjoy. Buy off one guy, let the other think the win was real.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dada5000

[Jordan]

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This is why Cornette and others think MMA is basically pro wrestling all over again.
It's hard to argue when you look at a carny show.

If this was the case wouldn't UFC be a lot better? Sure it may have happened in the company before but I have no proof. Could've been a ton of reasons for a fight to get thrown. They don't all have to do with the promotion itself though. I don't think that UFC or Bellator are inherently worked beyond match making being strategic.

[Seanny One Ball]

I said MMA, not UFC.
However UFC has had plenty of fixed fights, right from day 1.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IMPACTHistory?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IMPACTHistory</a>: Steiner Math revolutionized the field of mathematics forever. (IMPACT May 1, 2008) <a href="https://t.co/wD6E4eK5wy">pic.twitter.com/wD6E4eK5wy</a></p>&mdash; IMPACT (@IMPACTWRESTLING) <a href="https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/1256221840214593536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Vastardikai]

Mark Coleman fixed a few when he was broke, always in Japan.
Pancrase and Pride had a lot of fixed fights obviously but people forget guys like Ken and Frank Shamrock did it too. Vernon White was pretty notorious for it.

Pretty much all Kimbo fights were fixed. Dive money.

The Japs perfected that formula for everyone to enjoy. Buy off one guy, let the other think the win was real.

Didn't Ken Shamrock vs. Rich Franklin in UFC's first Ultimate Finale have a phantom punch in it? Also, it had Ken Shamrock take off his cup in the middle of the cage after the fight.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's the beauty of MMA, it's hard to tell if someone is acting weird because they have given up or because they are outclassed.
Ken Shamrock worked a good number of fights early on and I have no problem believing that some of his later fights were extremely questionable given the level of opponent he was facing. I think when it comes to the UFC he was likely, at worst, guilty of fighting when he had to know he was going to lose pretty badly so his fights against Ortiz and Franklin were only feasible on paper.
I think Dana White used his name value to boost a couple of people who would have done well without it, which he is continually guilty of to this day.

Dana rigs things in people's favour but I'm not sure he has outright paid a guy to take a dive. I think referees, judges and fighters have been influenced in all of the most traditional ways though.

Maybe a ref stops getting used as much or has various rules emphasised to them before the match or an unsuited fighter takes a fight on short notice for a guaranteed 3 fight contract after.

Dana White is like a horrible mixture of Vince and every boxing promoter ever but like they were, he's smarter than the carnies so the fixing is all much smarter.

Small-time logic would be "It's easier to pay a guy to lose than pay a guy to win" but that's why the worst fixes are so obvious.
If you want to make it hard to spot you buy the entire business that the refs, judges and athletes compete in.

[Seanny One Ball]

Up til Zuffa bought UFC the fixing was pretty brutal and often quite obvious. Guys on the same team might agree beforehand who was getting the rub based on likelihood of overall winning. I know Mark Hall did that for someone.

The worst I can remember off the top of my head was Anthony Macias vs Oleg Taktarov. He just runs into a guillotine and taps straight away. I think even Jim Brown realises it's fake and says something.

God Bless those early ones. Al Snow was in Dan Severns corner for one of them.

[Droford]

Florida Governor, Ron DeSantis announced at a COVID-19 briefing that sporting events such as WWE and AEW's weekly shows, fans are allowed into the building as long as the venue is at a maximum of 25% capacity.


The guidelines mandate that this can start as early as next Monday night, with Monday Night RAW, from the Performance Center in Orlando, Florida.

AEW is also taping all of their events at Daily's Place in Jacksonville, Florida.

This is huge news and also means that AEW can allow fans into the arena for their big Double or Nothing PPV, May 23rd.

[drave]

Up til Zuffa bought UFC the fixing was pretty brutal and often quite obvious. Guys on the same team might agree beforehand who was getting the rub based on likelihood of overall winning. I know Mark Hall did that for someone.

The worst I can remember off the top of my head was Anthony Macias vs Oleg Taktarov. He just runs into a guillotine and taps straight away. I think even Jim Brown realises it's fake and says something.

God Bless those early ones. Al Snow was in Dan Severns corner for one of them.

Just watched the match you referenced. Holy fake shit Batman. Never, even if someone were a "brawler" rush in head first like that....... dumbest thing to do.

[drave]

Florida Governor, Ron DeSantis announced at a COVID-19 briefing that sporting events such as WWE and AEW's weekly shows, fans are allowed into the building as long as the venue is at a maximum of 25% capacity.


The guidelines mandate that this can start as early as next Monday night, with Monday Night RAW, from the Performance Center in Orlando, Florida.

AEW is also taping all of their events at Daily's Place in Jacksonville, Florida.

This is huge news and also means that AEW can allow fans into the arena for their big Double or Nothing PPV, May 23rd.


All meaningless if people aren't willing to attend. It is Florida though, probably be sold out.

[Evil Vito]

Allowing fans is borderline psychotic.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

PRIDE was bad for fixed fights.

[Volare]

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[Seanny One Ball]

Imagine if you were a World Champion and that's the face you had to go home to.
No wonder Eddie died young.

[Seanny One Ball]

Just watched the match you referenced. Holy fake shit Batman. Never, even if someone were a "brawler" rush in head first like that....... dumbest thing to do.


I think Macias and Taktarov may have been team mates too, it's well known that agreements were reached so that one guy might go into a fight a lot healthier than his opponent.

UFC is a lot slicker now, like boxing in its heyday.

[Gerard]

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Now i know where wwe got "their idea" for table for three from.

[Seanny One Ball]

By adding one to My Dinner With Andre

[Emperor Smeat]

Allowing fans is borderline psychotic.

Yeah especially considering 25% capacity of Daily's Place is around 1375. Performance Center would be around 100 but everyone would be a lot more cramped in since less space to spread them out compared to a regular arena.

Vince and WWE managed to open up a huge can of worms because of their stubbornness over this on-going coronavirus pandemic. Them finding a sleazeball of a politician to do it isn't a big surprise on it own.

UFC could have saved a ton of money and ridicule from their Fight Island stuff had they just waited a couple of weeks for WWE to do the dirty work for them.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Like, even with 1375 people in every other seat, having fans seems like such an awful idea. I like the wrestlers being in the crowd because it has helped, and with a fuller roster they could enhance that atmosphere. But man, packing even 1k people in spaced out just sounds bad.

[Bad News Gertner]

Bought the Death of the Territories book by Tim Hornbaker with a Amazin gift card I got for my birthday. I heard it's really good.

[Volare]

Rocky trying to teach the NJPW fans our "ways" lol.

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[Seanny One Ball]

I am going to be contacting athletic commissions to see if Tyson Smith is Kenny Omega.
I have a hard on for this issue.

Wish me luck.

[LibSuperstar]

Bought the Death of the Territories book by Tim Hornbaker with a Amazin gift card I got for my birthday. I heard it's really good.

I'm planning to buy that book. Already got Capitol Revolution by the same author, which is about WWE's history up until Vince's purchase of the company from Vince Sr. in the early '80sl

[Bad News Gertner]

I read that book a couple of years ago. It's really good.

[drave]

27 years ago today. never saw Hulk be this technical. Not OVERLY technical, but moreso than anything he did in WWF.




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Also a huge Muta fan. Loved his super fast elbows, and other unorthodox moves he used.

[Droford]

Supposedly Corey Graves has been training and might potentially be trying to get back into the ring.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Vastardikai]

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He referenced an earlier gimmick 2 months after the debut of Raven, aka Johnny Polo, aka his ex-manager. He seems like the kind of guy who'd eat lightbulbs and electrocute himself.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">Sierra Hotel India Echo Lima Delta <a href="https://t.co/xBtU4OqPU3">pic.twitter.com/xBtU4OqPU3</a></p>&mdash; Leah Van Dale (@CarmellaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmellaWWE/status/1256964459345649664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Cena, who has granted over 650 wishes via the Make-A-Wish Foundation, makes sure nothing stops hope - not even a pandemic.<br><br>The 16-time World Champion fulfilled another wish by visiting a seven-year-old battling life-threatening illness in Florida. <a href="https://t.co/TL7WhZJDjY">pic.twitter.com/TL7WhZJDjY</a></p>&mdash; Gary Cassidy (@consciousgary) <a href="https://twitter.com/consciousgary/status/1257101565481160704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

Cena really is a good dude.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

He really is.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lmao whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. This is ridiculous<br><br>Zack Ryder Says Vince McMahon Pulled His Shirt Design For 'Promoting TNA' <a href="https://t.co/fkvJE1Wivd">https://t.co/fkvJE1Wivd</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1257153587085488128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

https://i.postimg.cc/YCFCzCth/95842959-851177545361618-2739326293098102784-n.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems Charlotte's appearance on last week's episode of NXT was a huge bust in terms of viewership according to the Observer.

Despite them hyping up her match with Mia Yim for the past few weeks, the match itself ended up being the lowest rated in terms of the key demo and 2nd lowest in terms of overall viewership on the show. Also one of the lowest ever rated in the key demo since NXT moved to USA Network.

Outside of her first return appearance to NXT, WWE's plans of using Charlotte's star power to be a big boost for NXT's key demo ratings has backfired badly. Pretty much been diminishing returns since then.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">MK11 Kano looks like cyborg <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeyRyanOnline?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeyRyanOnline</a> <a href="https://t.co/sPCYiQSW8n">pic.twitter.com/sPCYiQSW8n</a></p>&mdash; Todd Enrico (@ToddEnrico) <a href="https://twitter.com/ToddEnrico/status/1257067117326684160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Austin Aries

[Seanny One Ball]

Why did they make him look so shit?!

[Vastardikai]

He looks like he smells.

Also, he looks like he doesn't wash his ass or feet. The meme is long dead, So I will co-opt it now.

[drave]

Simple Kano?

[GD]

Damn @ Roman Reigns being edited out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE casually airbrushing Roman Reigns out of a highlights package showing Seth Rollins cashing in MITB to win the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 31... ��<br><br>There’s three seconds of blank screen as he covers Reigns for the pin ��<br><br>This is just petty, right? ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/frFQ80sj8S">pic.twitter.com/frFQ80sj8S</a></p>&mdash; GiveMeSport WWE &amp; Wrestling (@GMS_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/GMS_WWE/status/1257559098490576896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

WWE: where nothing matters because they can simply change history to suit their narrative

[drave]

uhhhh, gross. Either they will quietly release Roman given his situation, or they are just trying to ensure the Savior of Monday Nights remains pure?




I dunno, I don't really watch. I read results, but that's the extent. Reigns seems like the last person they should try to have compete right now.

[Gerard]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Damn @ Roman Reigns being edited out

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE casually airbrushing Roman Reigns out of a highlights package showing Seth Rollins cashing in MITB to win the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 31... ��<br><br>There’s three seconds of blank screen as he covers Reigns for the pin ��<br><br>This is just petty, right? ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/frFQ80sj8S">pic.twitter.com/frFQ80sj8S</a></p>&mdash; GiveMeSport WWE &amp; Wrestling (@GMS_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/GMS_WWE/status/1257559098490576896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They also erased Reigns from their Make A Wish videos this year despite him taking over Cena's role as the main star for it and being a perfect role model for the company following his own life threatening battle.

[GD]

I'm unsure if the WWE has done something similar in the past when a performer has gone on an extended leave of absence. I doubt if there is any heat on Reigns since he's immunocompromised.

[Emperor Smeat]

While not completely the same, WWE gave Hogan the scrubbing treatment after a tape of him using racist slurs got leaked.

[Droford]

I honestly think that they figure he's done wrestling

[Sepholio]

Roman is going to Hollywood. He doesn't need WWE anymore because he's going to ride the Rock's coattails into a more lucrative business.

[Seanny One Ball]

He has no charisma at all, there's no way he's getting any good acting work.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To answer the burning question (hopefully not in your crotches), of why I was on the cover of the video game...<br>The guy who created the game told me later, that I was his favorite wrestler so he put me on the cover... &amp; also the Illuminati were recruiting me <a href="https://t.co/1mDyXktceC">pic.twitter.com/1mDyXktceC</a></p>&mdash; Raven (@theraveneffect) <a href="https://twitter.com/theraveneffect/status/1257792558119424007?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Always assumed it's because they wanted the leaders of nWo Hollywood, the Wolfpac, the Flock, and then you had Goldberg who was the most over WCW guy.

[Sepholio]

Revenge is still my favorite wrestling game ever.

[Emperor Smeat]

Only real negative I have about Revenge is finishers not being as devastating in terms of damage and being easier to kick out compared to AKI's later WWF games.

More of an issue for short matches or trying to speed run through Championship mode.

[Lock Jaw]

He has no charisma at all, there's no way he's getting any good acting work.

Did you even see his star making role in The Fast And Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw?!

https://66.media.tumblr.com/42699ea9361165145aa6e2faa758e1fd/tumblr_pq5qtia5DW1uta6xoo5_500.gif

[Droford]

He's gonna play the Rocks cousin in a few movies with lie 5 min of screen time and maybe a line or two and make as much money as he was busting his ass 300 days a year on the road for wwe

[Volare]

Been waiting on this one.

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[Volare]

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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mind Blown- Ahmed Johnson in 1994 was not only dressed like <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealSabuECW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealSabuECW</a> but was doing Over the Top Dives, Swanton Bombs &amp; Moonsaults! <a href="https://t.co/H0p1ljkK6g">pic.twitter.com/H0p1ljkK6g</a></p>&mdash; Yoko Zuna (@MattyPradioShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattyPradioShow/status/1257413462222942212?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol yeah when Ahmed was Moadib he did insane shit like that.

He really doesn't get talked about in terms of wasted talent. He was mega over when he first debuted in the WWF, but bad luck with injuries and laziness got in the way.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I remember being a huge mark as a kid for Ahmed. Thought he was gonna be a star.

[Seanny One Ball]

He looked great until he did anything.
If Ron Simmons had been that vascular he would have been pushed forever in WWE.

[Lock Jaw]

I remember being a huge mark as a kid for Ahmed. Thought he was gonna be a star.

Yeah, I remember being big into his feud vs Nation of Domination

[GD]

How is Charlotte Flair doing as NXT Women's Champion? Subconsciously I can't help but compare such reigns to Cena's United States title reign.

[GD]

Remember when they referred to the women's champion as the NXT Champion for a short period of time?

[Emperor Smeat]

How is Charlotte Flair doing as NXT Women's Champion? Subconsciously I can't help but compare such reigns to Cena's United States title reign.

So far her reign feels like almost every other one she's had so far in WWE.

No real direction and came at the cost of knee capping all the momentum and star rise Rhea gained from her Baszler feud.

[slik]

Could see NXT beat AEW this week via NXT having a big show and Tony Khan booking the laziest sounding card in ages...

Cody vs Janela
Mox vs Spears

[Evil Vito]

Per Tony Khan, all wrestlers and staff present at tonight's tapings including himself were tested for coronavirus prior to entering the building and everybody tested negative.

So while it's nice that there won't be any potentially sick workers performing...that opens up the next criticism which is that they were able to rapidly test that many people in a short period of time despite a national test shortage.

[drave]

So far her reign feels like almost every other one she's had so far in WWE.

No real direction and came at the cost of knee capping all the momentum and star rise Rhea gained from her Baszler feud.




This cannot be stated enough. Nearly as bad as the bungling of Asuka from NXT to main roster.

[Emperor Smeat]

Could see NXT beat AEW this week via NXT having a big show and Tony Khan booking the laziest sounding card in ages...

Cody vs Janela
Mox vs Spears

If it does happen, just more proof NXT can only really beat AEW by dipping even more into the TakeOver well and not because their weekly shows have been built up strong on their own.

Like the Dream vs. Balor feud pretty much got quickly canned in order to rush back to the Dream vs. Cole feud because NXT needs more than 1 Takeover-quality match on a show to sway the needle these days.

[Black Widow]

kU7H7GwnbMc

Hotness overload :love::love:

[GD]

So far her reign feels like almost every other one she's had so far in WWE.

No real direction and came at the cost of knee capping all the momentum and star rise Rhea gained from her Baszler feud.

Yeah, I can't really get behind that booking decision.

While Charlotte is a top tier performer, she's always booked and treated like such a spoiled brat (which makes her unlikeable to an extent). If the dirtsheets were to be believed, she won this year's rumble match because she was promised a win at last year's event. That comes across as cringeworthy considering she did end up in the main event of last year's WrestleMania. All of these decisions do take some luster off of her accomplishments.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Its so wild that this whole COVID-19 shit was made in a lab to distract us from the fact that Nia Jax is an unsafe worker</p>&mdash; portrait of a lady on fire defender (@KELVlN_FILTER) <a href="https://twitter.com/KELVlN_FILTER/status/1258165921836707840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Maryland's State Athletic Commission recently fined AEW $10k for the Unsanctioned match between Moxley and Omega at Full Gear.

The former WCW announcer guy who snitched on them has been gloating about it despite everyone else mocking him about it. Somehow he thinks AEW getting fined is a bigger black eye to wrestling than all the shit WWE has pulled recently.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;This puts AEW on notice, as well, and it embarrasses the company. By this time tomorrow the story will have spread far and wide. And it will appear in mainstream publications. This is a black eye for AEW and for the business.&quot;<br><br>bruh. <a href="https://t.co/WzW31RJIMc">pic.twitter.com/WzW31RJIMc</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1258176497577332745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WRT Chris Cruise &amp; AEW:<br><br>Whatever you think of athletic commissions regulating wrestling/enforcing rules, it’s obvious that there are violations of MD's rules on EVERY SINGLE PRO WRESTLING CARD IN THE STATE.<br><br>He picked this crusade because of his weird issues with AEW. That’s it. <a href="https://t.co/GcrDNwAvis">pic.twitter.com/GcrDNwAvis</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1258179183567679490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Meanwhile despite being named in a class-action lawsuit regarding allegations of top WWE executives committing acts for their own personal financial benefit and not for the company's best interests, Triple H decided to sell off over $1 million worth of his WWE stocks recently.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There could be any number of reasons why an executive or board member might sell shares. Some like Dunn make sales almost every year. It raises some curiosity though when a sale is made by someone who rarely or never does so, when the stock is at about half of its 52wk high. <a href="https://t.co/erqZ3LB19m">https://t.co/erqZ3LB19m</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1258148846267437057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Gerard]

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Have to laugh at how animated Dave Hebner gets after sticking his hand down the back of Flairs trunks. :lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Bad News Gertner]

Lol did you know La Resistance were originally going to be called "Le Coeque"

[Bad News Gertner]

I'm fucking dying over here laughing about the thought of that

[Droford]

A&E Network has greenlit the new series "The Quest for Lost WWE Treasures"(wt) in partnership withWWE Studioswhich takes viewers on the ultimate hunt to find some of WWE's most iconic, lost memorabilia. In each episode, WWE's Stephanie McMahon and Paul "Triple H" Levesque, will lead a team of collectors, WWE Superstars and Legends as they investigate, negotiate, bid and travel across the country to hunt down and reclaim some of the most elusive WWE collectibles.

Throughout history, WWE's action-packed storylines have spawned iconic, one-of-a-kind memorabilia, most of which is lost in attics, hidden in boxes or even claimed by competitors. Guided by McMahon and Levesque, the series will unearth these rare items in the hopes of preserving and sharing the legacy behind the memorable moments in WWE history. Episodes will feature exclusive WWE footage as well as unprecedented access to the WWE Archives, which holds more than 10,000 rarities including Andre the Giant's custom boots, Vince McMahon's cement-filled Corvette, The Undertaker's caskets and more.Over the course of ten one-hour episodes, WWE Superstars and Legends will give viewers a unique look into WWE history as they seek out the missing treasures that have left a lasting mark on pop culture.



The network is dead. This would be another obvious network show instead on A&E (who are also doing new episodes of Biography on wrestlers like Randy Savvage and Piper)

[Bad News Gertner]

They gotta track down Pedro Morales's WWWF title belt that he pawned while champion so he could bet on the horses. Claimed it was "stolen". Wrestling historian Tom Burke bought it for $1500 from the Pawn Shop and later fold it for waaaaaaaaay more than that

[Bad News Gertner]

Le Coeque! Bahahahaha!

[Sepholio]

rofl now I can't stop saying Le Coeque

[Emperor Smeat]

The network is dead. This would be another obvious network show instead on A&E (who are also doing new episodes of Biography on wrestlers like Randy Savvage and Piper)

Should have kept Ryder and Hawkins for this new show since they were already doing the same but for wrestling figurines.

[Emperor Smeat]

Besides Florida, seems Connecticut also recently gave WWE "essential business" status which is why they were able to tape wrestling stuff at their headquarters for Money in the Bank.

The Rush’ also has an article up about WWE’s filming of Money In The Bank at their corporate headquarters. WWE was allowed to film the event because media companies provide “essential” services that are exempt from the stay-at-home order that was put in place on March 23rd by Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont.

[Vastardikai]

https://youtu.be/B_jYlJEXc8s

I will embed later, if I remember. But it is glorious.

[drave]

https://youtu.be/B_jYlJEXc8s

I will embed later, if I remember. But it is glorious.




Here ya go


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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Maffewgregg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Maffewgregg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sammyguevara?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sammyguevara</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> Dear Maffew, I give you: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StreetsOfAEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StreetsOfAEW</a>! (Also on YouTube: <a href="https://t.co/KyqcUsc9Iq">https://t.co/KyqcUsc9Iq</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDark?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDark</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StreetsOfRage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StreetsOfRage</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StreetsOfRage4?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StreetsOfRage4</a> <a href="https://t.co/5jVYFYRofN">pic.twitter.com/5jVYFYRofN</a></p>&mdash; Sam Fines (@RealSamFines) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealSamFines/status/1258689060236939264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Here ya go


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Haha Cornette was talking about that on the Drive Thru this weeks. I meant to watch it but forgot. Lol what a bump that guy takes

[Emperor Smeat]

This year's SummerSlam might not be taking place in Boston due to the city's mayor not lifting the ban on large public events till early September.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW: Boston Mayor Marty Walsh cancels all large-scale events in the city through Labor Day. <a href="https://t.co/w4rJ6AMB6l">https://t.co/w4rJ6AMB6l</a> <a href="https://t.co/31sTRHdzUI">pic.twitter.com/31sTRHdzUI</a></p>&mdash; ABC News (@ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1258828574053859329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Vastardikai]

Haha Cornette was talking about that on the Drive Thru this weeks. I meant to watch it but forgot. Lol what a bump that guy takes

I was watching something else Corny related, and this was recommended. Watched it and circled back to the video where it was referenced. Dude was drunk as shit, that's the only reason why he got launched. Likely the only reason why he put himself in position to get launched.

[Bad News Gertner]

Random thing I learned today

From June 5. 2000 to June 12 2000 your WWF and WCW Hardcore champions were Gerald Brisco and Eric Bischoff

[GD]

WWE Untold: I am The Game is quite a ride. Although I do question the historical accuracy at times.

Eager to watch some new episodes of the "Dark Side of The Ring" series.

[XL]

I watched that Untold episode. Other than them trying to sell HHH as a “marquee name” (in his own use of the words) I don’t recall too much in the way of historical inaccuracy.

[James Steele]

With Austin & Taker out injured and The Rock becoming the #1 babyface, Triple H was the #1 heel and a marquee name for WWF at the turn of the millennium because of that series with Foley. Triple H said they were trying to establish him as a marquee name from the summer of 99 and you can’t argue that he hasn’t been a marquee name for 20 years now. Is he on the Mt. Rushmore with Hogan, Austin, Rock, and Flair? No, but he is easily one of the 20 biggest stars in the history of wrestling and one of the top 5 stars since the turn of the millennium.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The fact that you even bring up him being on the Mount Rushmore of wrestlers, even if only to say he isn't, is fucking laughable.

[#1-norm-fan]

I will say that Triple H’s run is much more tolerable in hindsight but it’s only because the product has somehow gotten progressively worse since his reign of terror. Sometimes I wonder if his entire plan now that he has some control is to make people think he was better than he actually was by making wrestling unbelievably bad.

[Bad News Gertner]

It also helps when you're banging the bosses daughter and book yourself to never lose. He dragged that show down for 5 years.

He's like maybe in the top 200 stars

[James Steele]

2002-2003 was the drizzling shits, but his run from 99 to his injury in 01 was great. I blame bad storylines (02) and shitty opponents (03) more than anything. Even then, you got the HBK return and start of feud in there that’s pretty fucking good. 2004-Jan 2007/quad tear #2 was pretty good with the matches with Benoit/HBK/Batista/Cena/Flair. The DX reunion skits were average, but the matches were good. He run on SmackDown! was good wrestling Edge, Jeff Hardy, etc. He couldn’t pull shit out of Khali and Kozlov but who could? WM25 got crippled by shitty booking. Then, after that he’s part time and pretty much doing 1 offs at Mania. Sheamus match was good. Taker matches were classic. Brock was good. Bryan was a classic. Sting was a fun story, and the finish made sense at the time. The reigns match was more about Reigns being a black hole of fan support at the time. Rollins was a great match. The Rousey mix tag was tremendous. Batista match was better than it had any right to be and that’s because HHH carried it. The international shows in recent years are what they are, but I wouldn’t classify them as bad.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol.

[Bad News Gertner]

JamesSteele sounds like he just read off a Donald Trump speech.

2002 and 2003 were the shits because HHH beat everyone to a pulp, got rid of the IC title because he only wanted the World Title to matter and forced everyone to listen to 25 minute promo segments. Also the ratings tanked because he was so bad.

He's realistically a Hardcore Holly level heel

[XL]

2000 HHH was fucking amazing, he had great matches at Rumble/NWO, Backlash and Judgment Day (vs Rock), Fully Loaded (vs Jericho), SummerSlam (vs Rock & Angle), Unforgiven (vs Angle), and No Mercy (vs Benoit). It went sideways with Austin’s return.

[XL]

With Austin & Taker out injured and The Rock becoming the #1 babyface, Triple H was the #1 heel and a marquee name for WWF at the turn of the millennium because of that series with Foley. Triple H said they were trying to establish him as a marquee name from the summer of 99 and you can’t argue that he hasn’t been a marquee name for 20 years now. Is he on the Mt. Rushmore with Hogan, Austin, Rock, and Flair? No, but he is easily one of the 20 biggest stars in the history of wrestling and one of the top 5 stars since the turn of the millennium.

If I recall correctly HHH himself described a “Marquee Name” as someone who’s name alone (I.e. without an opponent) brings people in. He was trying to get there, I don’t think he did.

His reputation is that he’s the guy that works with the guy that gets people through the door. He’s been great in that role.

[Seanny One Ball]

My entire memory of Triple H is teenage me wishing he wasn't always in the main event.
Triple H being force fed to me is one of the reasons I was so happy when Kurt Angle came on the scene. You now had a way better heel who was also a way better athlete.

Triple H was definitely a good wrestler and his matches were never too bad but everyone got bored of him as a main eventer because his place was as a jockish anti-hero in DX.
I never wanted to see anyone chase Triple H for the belt because I didn't think beating him was a big deal. They oversold him, tried to make him way too evil to be taken seriously.

Didn't he break JR's arm or was that Austin in a weird heel moment?

[Seanny One Ball]

I will say that he was given some fucking great angles though. Stuff that would have been better for someone else but that I have very fond memories of.

That best of 5 matches to get a title shot angle is possibly my favourite non PPV show ever.
I couldn't have enjoyed that if the matches and the atmosphere were off in any major way.

I still think that angle would have been dynamite for Foley, Austin or The Rock though. A one night, 5 match run against 5 main eventer just to earn a shot at the belt. A heel running the gauntlet seems odd.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

His 2000 was great. One year, that's it.

[Seanny One Ball]

What year was his iron-man with Rock in? I liked that one.
I think he nearly got a fall with a fucking sleeper hold.

[Seanny One Ball]

Apparently that was 2000 and he did get a fall with a sleeper.
That match was tits. I need to see it again.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Even then, as great years go... he wouldn't have been shit without the Rock being there. HHH, at his best, is an effective supporting cast member.

[Danny Electric]

Watching it when I was younger I always wanted to see him lose and that is because he was playing the heel most the time. I remember his match against Jericho on Raw which I loved mainly because of being a massive Y2J mark and the hate I had for HHH when the decision was reversed.
To me he was the perfect foil at that time against Rock and Austin.

[James Steele]

...so he is the most effective heel in the history of professional wrestling? I agree.

[Seanny One Ball]

HOT TAKES!

COME GET YOUR HOT TAKES!

TEN FOR A PENNY!

[Seanny One Ball]

He probably is in the top ten though.

[Lock Jaw]

My fav Triple H was from when he was just starting all the "The Game" and "My Time" stuff, and had that feud with Cactus Jack.

[XL]

For the most part the issue with HHH isn’t in the ring, with a few exceptions (vs Steiner top of the list). It’s the amount of people cut off at the legs in order to keep him propped up.

Booker T, RVD, Kane all in a short spell. Now, these aren’t guys that were gonna lead to another boom period by any means, but they ended up being made less by these losses.

HHH was featured too much at the detriment of the product.

You can sell it as being a great heel, but I think there was a lot of “Go Away” heat mixed in there.

[XL]

My fav Triple H was from when he was just starting all the "The Game" and "My Time" stuff, and had that feud with Cactus Jack.

That’s what the Untold episode is about. Well worth a watch if you haven’t yet.

[Lock Jaw]

To be fair, RVD being cut off at the legs is best for all

[XL]

He was so fucking over at a number of occasions. I know you can point at what happened when he was given the push in the end.

[GD]

Stumbled upon DX vs Rated RKO from New Year's Revolution. Pretty sick injury.

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember when he killed Eugene dead in a matter of 2 weeks

[Bad News Gertner]

Or when he and HBK completely buried the Spirit Squad

[Seanny One Ball]

HBK never grew up.

I hate HBK.

I always have.

[Seanny One Ball]

Shawn Michaels was fucking amazing in The Rockers, but HBK can fuck right off

[Seanny One Ball]

It feels so good to finally say that.

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember when Rock pinned Vince to win HHH's title in June 2000 in that 6 man so HHH wouldn't have to get pinned

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember that feud between Foley and HHH in 2000 that stretched from January till Wrestlemania where HHH pinned Foley about a dozen times and left Foley laid out on multiple occasions and Foley didn't win a single match.

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember when HHH was the only wrestler allowed to have long hair on the Raw roster

[GD]

Remember when he killed Eugene dead in a matter of 2 weeks

Nick Dinsmore really overachieved with that gimmick...getting a SummerSlam singles bout of it.

[Bad News Gertner]

Remember when Edge refused to move to the Raw roster because of HHH

[Bad News Gertner]

Nick Dinsmore really overachieved with that gimmick...getting a SummerSlam singles bout of it.

And HHH completely killed all his momentum in a couple of weeks

[GD]

HBK never grew up.

I hate HBK.

I always have.

I was always a Bret guy. Shawn just reeked of insincerity. Mad skills though.

[GD]

Remember when HHH was the only wrestler allowed to have long hair on the Raw roster

Remember when Edge refused to move to the Raw roster because of HHH

I wasn't aware of these rumors.

[GD]

And HHH completely killed all his momentum in a couple of weeks

I mean, that gimmick didn't have much of a shelf life.

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably the most ridiculous Triple H story from the 2000s was how WWE had a specific rule in place where Yukes was forbidden from showing any screenshots that contained Triple H in a weak or vulnerable situation for their games.

[Lock Jaw]

I was always a Bret guy. Shawn just reeked of insincerity. Mad skills though.

I disliked him a lot before his injury because of being a Bret guy and because he did seem like a huge douche (which I guess he actually was)..... I actually really liked him after he came back, though, except for the reunions of DX which were cringeworthy.

[Danny Electric]

Looking back that Eugene gimmick was just horrible to watch.

[GD]

That period of time when Hunter didn't want to work on Tuesdays.

[Danny Electric]

When he wanted two sugars in his tea, I mean come on.

[Gerard]

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Looks interesting.

4:53, someone in the crowd stamping on the end of his hair for some reason. :wtf:

Seeing the undertaker skipping a rope is pretty strange as well.:lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

Similar to Triple H, Stephanie McMahon decided to pick a bad time to offload a ton of WWE stocks.

Triple H, Vince McMahon, and herself were among those named in a recent lawsuit against the company in regards to allegations of top WWE executives committing acts in the best interest of themselves financially and not the company.

Stephanie McMahon Levesque followed her husband in selling 23,255 shares of stock on Wednesday for $1,029,963.90

Only reason Kevin Dunn didn't have real suspicion on himself with his recent stock sale was due to his sales are usually done on routine times and for similar large amounts each time. Triple H and Stephanie usually sell their stocks less often and usually not for the amounts they made this time.

[Bad News Gertner]

I mean, that gimmick didn't have much of a shelf life.

It was over though and had some legs left. It would have petered out naturally, but HHH made sure that wouldn't happen.