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New Day Sucks.
Rock can be more entertaining by himself.
Rusev is lame also.
I was in agreement until you got to Rusev. That man is awesome.
Rusev - TV Champion extraordinaire!
Ruien
03-25-2016, 01:46 PM
Rusev is amazing. Was easily the best character for 6 months before Cena started to kill his character at Mania.
Lock Jaw
03-25-2016, 01:53 PM
Yeah, what a difference one year makes for him.... last year, major program with major star.... this year, member of a forgettable stable in which it seems that every single member is "brought down" by it.....
Big Vic
03-25-2016, 01:54 PM
CyNick would argue Rusev was elevated by losing 3 times in a row to Cena.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Lock Jaw
03-25-2016, 01:59 PM
He could have been. All about how they handled him afterwards.
Emperor Smeat
03-25-2016, 02:21 PM
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Big Vic
03-25-2016, 02:22 PM
He could have been. All about how they handled him afterwards.
After losing to Cena 3 times it was over.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeahgqtUEAIP_i5.jpg:large
Anybody Thrilla
03-25-2016, 04:14 PM
That's pretty bad ass. :y:
Why does Jerry Lawler make fun of Mauro for knowing the names of moves on Smackdown?
Wishbone
03-25-2016, 04:18 PM
That's pretty bad ass. :y:
Why does Jerry Lawler make fun of Mauro for knowing the names of moves on Smackdown?
Because he's basically playing the same type of terrible heel that CyNick does here on the forums. It's not "cool" to know or care about wrestling outside WWE and all that jazz. At least that's the only reasoning I can think of.
Wishbone
03-25-2016, 04:21 PM
Also that Lesnar vs Ambrose pic looks freakin' epic. Shame that match isn't for the title at 'mania. Could do an amazing video package for that one too. Man vs God. Can insanity overcome the power of a conqueror? Meh, I'm feeling overly cinematic today.
Shadrick
03-25-2016, 04:23 PM
New Day Sucks.
Rock can be more entertaining by himself.
Rusev is lame also.
Get the fuck out.
Mercenary
03-25-2016, 06:48 PM
Heard Billy Jack lost his lawsuit
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 08:04 PM
Sin Cara seems really flat at the moment, but there would be something cool if he got to the top of the ladder, took off his mask and revealed himself to be Fandango.
That's better.
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 08:05 PM
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I could see someone taking out Sin Cara without anyone "knowing" and stealing his spot in the match. Got no clue who they use for that though.
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 08:48 PM
Luke Harper might be out 5-6 months with a knee injury. :(
Volare
03-25-2016, 08:52 PM
FUCK
Volare
03-25-2016, 08:53 PM
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 08:59 PM
You might as well just end The Wyatt Family with him gone. Rowan works well when led by Harper, but he's a bit dodge on his own. Strowman is still the shits. Bray got something out of Harper too. Fuck.
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 08:59 PM
Silver lining: Harper comes back a monster and gets renewed focus.
Maluco
03-25-2016, 09:13 PM
Best bet now is a brand split, for a few reasons. To let new stars get TV time and feuds that matter and have focus. To elevate people into a position where they can get a greater profile (KO with World title for example)
PPVs would actually mean something with lots of top matches for titles happening at the one place.
It would also give a bit of variety and variation to things. If you don't like Reigns on RAW, you can watch Orton/Ambrose on Smackdown, for example.
Finally, and most importantly, it could lessen schedules and put a halt to this injury crisis. Guys working less means less potential injuries.
For those that argue that the rosters are already weak, you could probably make a pretty legit roster just out of guys who are injured...
Volare
03-25-2016, 09:16 PM
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With all the MMA stuff Shane is doing, he better be able to counter Hell's Gate without a problem. (kayfabe)
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 09:17 PM
I'd be for a brand split. I always liked the idea. I just wish they had kept them more separate and allowed them to be headed up differently. Really give them their own flavor instead of A-show/B-show shit.
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 09:17 PM
Also, Jim Cornette is marvelous.
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 09:18 PM
Rusev could have lost to Cena. He should have lost at Mania. It's that automatic rematch stuff that sucks. You need to re-build him for that rematch and actually have him sell the loss.
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 09:20 PM
LUNCH TIME:
https://36.media.tumblr.com/5435635253152c34a2ae2a72a196245f/tumblr_nwfudcV7wE1rxqftbo1_500.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 09:21 PM
I think Sasha will win the Triple Threat at Mania, but I do hope Becky pulls it off. Charlotte will be embedded as a star and Sasha is a star. Becky could be a star, but I worry that she can only be the bridesmaid so many times. But if she wins at Mania, then it gives Charlotte a reason to challenge and Sasha more of a chase to her inevitable reign.
Emperor Smeat
03-25-2016, 09:37 PM
Dirtsheets sponsored by Classic Little Naitch:
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There has been a lot of speculation about WWE possibly doing a brand split after WrestleMania 32 and this will surely add to the rumors.
For what it's worth and this could be nothing, The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that the WWE marketing department recently produced new USA Network graphics for RAW and SmackDown.
The RAW graphic features John Cena, Kevin Owens, Bray Wyatt, Alberto Del Rio, Charlotte and Nikki Bella as the top stars. The SmackDown promo features Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, The New Day, Dolph Ziggler and Paige as the top stars.
According to PWtorch the word going out is that HHH wants ShaneVsTaker to go on last as the true main event closing Wrestlemania 32
However it's Vince that wants HHH and Reigns to close the show for the WWE championship. HHH isn't sold on his main event because the original plans for Reigns isn't working and the story isn't progressing or being told how they wanted it to, he now believes it's a weaker story compared Takers career and Raw power on the line.
They've been getting into heated arguments backstage and it's worrying some people who worry for Vince's health that this mania has been the most stressful for him in recent years.
It looks like John Cena could miss in-ring action at WWE's WrestleMania 32, Payback, Extreme Rules and Money In the Bank.
The latest internal ETA on Cena's return to actual wrestling is July, according to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Everyone knows how Cena often returns ahead of schedule and that is always a possibility here. If Cena were out until late July, he could return at the Battleground pay-per-view on July 24th.
The word making the rounds backstage at the WWE Madison Square Garden event is that Luke Harper's knee injury is worse than originally feared and he is now expected out for five to six months.
Thursday’s WWE Smackdown averaged 2.501 million viewers for USA Network, according to Showbuzzdaily.com. The number was up from the 2.260 million count from last week.
As of press time, WrestleMania at AT&T Stadium in Dallas had just over 85,000 tickets out for almost $13.5 million, both breaking all-time pro wrestling paid attendance (1992 SummerSlam at Wembley Stadium) and gate (2015 WrestleMania in Santa Clara’s Levi Stadium) records. That is very close to what the final numbers will end up being. WWE has claimed in press material that the show is sold out, although there are a few, but very few very expensive seats still not sold. There will be some new tickets released, but not many, after they figure out what is needed for production ...
The announced attendance will likely be greater than 103,219, because that was the figure announced for the 2011 Super Bowl, and WWE always announces a WrestleMania number in Super Bowl stadiums greater than the Super Bowl number, even though the WWE staging set up blocks more seats than can be put on the field and they legitimately can’t top the Super Bowl attendance. But the announced number will replace the 93,173 figure of WrestleMania III in WWE mythology.
Observer on the amount of tickets sold so far and the number the WWE likely will claim in order to break records.
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that there is a huge class action lawsuit in the works over royalties and the WWE Network profits. Apparently a large number of former WWE talents are participating in the legal suit, with more expressing interest in getting involved.
The argument is that the WWE Network taking the place of DVDs and Blu-rays, effectively replacing home media, causing the revenue from those sources to drop. The wrestlers feel that they should be entitled to part of the Network revenue due the replacement.
It was noted that the Lawsuit, if successful, could potentially hurt WWE Network revenues badly, going forward.
Recently, Doug Somers and Eddie Gilbert's family have unsuccessfully tried to get royalties from having clips shown on regular WWE TV but The Observer noted that this situation is very different.
The potential reason that Jericho has been going at it with Nakamura on Twitter is to build up for a match between the two at Sumo Hall in July.
Former WWE star Funaki will be doing commentary and translation for WWE NXT “Takeover: Dallas”, the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony and WrestleMania 32 on the WWE Network in Japan.
If you noticed a fresh gash of the left side of Ric Flair’s forehead on Raw on 3/21 as he was coming down the aisle, apparently when he was filming a segment for an upcoming ESPN 30 for 30 show on his life, one of the things he did on the subject of all his bloody matches was he gigged himself to show how it was done. Most of the 30 for 30 pieces have been fascinating and I was told that all facets of Flair’s life will be gone into
TNA announced five new signings, Jessie Guilmette (Pepper Parks), Laura Dennis (Cherry Bomb), Marshe Rockett (who works under his real name, he's a Chicago independent wrestler), Thomas LaRuffa (who was Sylvester Lefort in NXT) and Mikael Vierege (who was Marcus Louis in NXT).
WWE Diva Brie Bella will be retiring sooner than she originally planned … Pro Wrestling Sheet has learned the wrestler is hanging up her boots following the RAW after WrestleMania.
Sources with direct knowledge tell us there’s no bad blood between WWE and Daniel Bryan — the recent appearances he pulled out of are due to a health issue.
It’s unclear what the issue is at this point, but we’re told it’s the reason Brie wasn’t at RAW this week.
Our sources say all of this has caused Brie to speed up her retirement plans — she had previously said she’d retire over the summer — and now she wants to focus on starting a family.
We’re told Brie will still be featured in WWE programming — like “Total Divas” and guest starring on Network shows — but she’ll no longer be stepping into the ring as a full-time wrestler. The Bella twin will instead work in an ambassador role for the company.
Previous plans were for the retirement to occur around the Summer.
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Some other sheet news includes:
Tag team The Mighty Don’t Kneel (TMDK) from NOAH was recently revealed to have signed a deal with the WWE and will start NXT training next month. http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/tag-team-specialists-the-mighty-dont-kneel-sign-wwe
Turns out Kurt Angle will be wrestling at least one more match for 2016 with UK's RevPro Wrestling announcing Angle vs Zack Sabre Jr is set to occur this June. Angle previously stated he was taking the rest of 2016 off after his recent ppv match against Rey Mysterio. PPV post for June's RPW event: http://i.imgur.com/v5BzH7t.jpg
According to Fox Sports, Randy Orton will be making his in-ring return next month. https://twitter.com/1340AMFOXSports/status/712778837453459456
According to the Observer, current plans for Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows is for their NXT/WWE tv debut to occur next month.
According to the Observer, more woes for Mexican promotion AAA occurred this week with several more wrestlers leaving the company. Also teased Lucha Underground struggling with finances has put a huge strain on AAA's own finances and former booker Konan is expected to form a new promotion with a possible raid occurring.
Speedball Mike Bailey recently got busted by US authorities for illegally entering the country and got hit with a 5 year ban as a result. At the moment its in the career killing range since the ban is very severe and even covers him having to travel by air through the US to other locations.
WWE announced Usos vs Dudleys will join the Andre Battle Royale for Mania's pre-show festivities.
Observer ended up debunking rumors of The Rock being involved in the New Day vs League of Nations match but did tease something huge is still planned to occur. Will be part of WWE's push to make New Day into even bigger stars for the company. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4bwi3z/bryan_alvarez_on_wol_as_you_will_find_out_at/
Recent episode of Talk Is Jericho had Charles Robinson as his guest: http://www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=593&pid=1638842
Lock Jaw
03-25-2016, 09:37 PM
Someone say Lunch Time?
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Black Widow
03-25-2016, 10:38 PM
[I was in agreement until you got to Rusev. That man is awesome.
Rusev - TV Champion extraordinaire!He's more entertaining than New Day.
[Get the fuck out.I have been since I was 14.
Shadrick
03-25-2016, 11:09 PM
[He's more entertaining than New Day.
[I have been since I was 14.
Oh? Well that changes everything.
Seth82
03-26-2016, 01:46 AM
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In case ya'll forgot
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Also, Jim Cornette is marvelous.
Ok I'll bite - particularly after his homophobic rant against Joey Ryan and calling Lucha Underground the worst thing to have ever happened to the business, what in 2016 makes Jim Cornette marvellous?
Forget Shane McMahon, Jonathan Coachman appeared at the Garden :eek:
Black Widow
03-26-2016, 08:46 AM
http://rs1066.pbsrc.com/albums/u418/SHIKICHI/2016-03/66B2C8B5-F1B8-4B98-ADB2-08BD86B19C33.png.jpeg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip
Becoming my favorite thing about Mick.
Droford
03-26-2016, 09:43 AM
New Day vs LON isn't for the tag belts anymore
Makes Zero sense
Volare
03-26-2016, 09:50 AM
Forget Shane McMahon, Jonathan Coachman appeared at the Garden :eek:
Saw a pic of that on my Twitta machine. Pretty damn funny.
Volare
03-26-2016, 09:51 AM
New Day vs LON isn't for the tag belts anymore
Makes Zero sense
4 vs 3 for the tag titles? I figured it was gonna be a 6 man or 8 man with New Day bringing a mystery partner.
#1-norm-fan
03-26-2016, 10:00 AM
Ok I'll bite - particularly after his homophobic rant against Joey Ryan and calling Lucha Underground the worst thing to have ever happened to the business, what in 2016 males Jim Cornette marvellous?
What's this about a homophobic rant against Joey Ryan?
Volare
03-26-2016, 10:20 AM
What's this about a homophobic rant against Joey Ryan?
The porn plex/ dick hold.
#1-norm-fan
03-26-2016, 11:30 AM
Did he rant about him being a "fag" or something?
Evil Vito
03-26-2016, 11:39 AM
I can't say I blame Triple H for wanting his match against Reigns to not go on last. He remembers the crowd being completely dead when he main evented WM18 and WM25 after Rock/Hogan and Taker/HBK, respectively.
Not sure Taker/Shane will have anywhere near the same level of reaction but it's still Taker's final WM match in Texas so the crowd will be hot for it.
#1-norm-fan
03-26-2016, 01:05 PM
Easy solution to this dillema...
Ryback vs Kalisto headlines.
Did he rant about him being a "fag" or something?
https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/672145692031328256
Lock Jaw
03-26-2016, 03:37 PM
Feel like a non-wrestler should not be main eventing Wrestlemania in this day and age.
Feel like a non-wrestler should not be main eventing Wrestlemania in this day and age.
That's what's happening either way.
#1-norm-fan
03-26-2016, 03:39 PM
https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/672145692031328256
Oh come on. Really? THAT was the "homophobic rant"? Really? lol
Evil Vito
03-26-2016, 03:58 PM
Why is Cornette such a polarizing figure within the IWC community? It's not like you have to either 100% agree with everything he says or 100% disagree.
For instance, I couldn't disagree more with his opinions on Lucha Underground but do agree with most of what he says about modern WWE.
Lock Jaw
03-26-2016, 04:07 PM
That's what's happening either way.
Triple H is still a wrestler. Far from a full time wrestler, but at least a wrestler.
Oh come on. Really? THAT was the "homophobic rant"? Really? lol
I perhaps can be accused of exaggerating but we're still talking about a guy who in 2016 is using the term 'gay' as an insult.
James Steele
03-26-2016, 04:12 PM
Fuck you, Triple H is the wrestler!
(I still love you though, Lock Jaw. :heart: )
James Steele
03-26-2016, 04:12 PM
I perhaps can be accused of exaggerating but we're still talking about a guy who in 2016 is using the term 'gay' as an insult.
He didn't use gay as an insult. He just made an observation.
He didn't use gay as an insult. He just made an observation.
Ok the idea of being gay then.
James Steele
03-26-2016, 04:17 PM
It's 2016, and kind of fucked up you assume he is implying the gay label because he said someone likes standing over another man with his dick in their face. Maybe he is just a confident straight man or a bi-sexual. Quit trying to stick labels on people and let them live their lives.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-26-2016, 04:21 PM
Pretty sûre Jim cornett is lime super liberal and not at all a homophobe. He just appears to have a sense of humour. He's a bit passe but he has some good things to say.
Droford
03-26-2016, 04:23 PM
4 vs 3 for the tag titles? I figured it was gonna be a 6 man or 8 man with New Day bringing a mystery partner.
4 vs 3 non title
It doesn't make sense
erickman
03-26-2016, 04:35 PM
Pretty sûre Jim cornett is lime super liberal and not at all a homophobe. He just appears to have a sense of humour. He's a bit passe but he has some good things to say.
he hates everone he is super heel
Savio
03-26-2016, 06:22 PM
Pretty sure Jim Cornette is awful and beats children.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-26-2016, 06:30 PM
Feel like a non-wrestler should not be main eventing Wrestlemania in this day and age.
I think the day and age is perfect for a non wrestler to main event. It's not like WWE seems to care about Wrestlemania right now.
Shadrick
03-26-2016, 07:27 PM
Jari has his (or her) mind made up that Cornette is a homophobe. Not sure where the evidence is coming from but hey.
Lock Jaw
03-26-2016, 08:00 PM
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Lock Jaw
03-26-2016, 08:04 PM
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Lock Jaw
03-26-2016, 08:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeVyfFyUkAA6kFS.jpg
Something very sad about that picture.
Lock Jaw
03-26-2016, 08:27 PM
He hates cake
Emperor Smeat
03-26-2016, 08:28 PM
Apparently Reigns doesn't have an idea on why people boo him if a recent interview with the Kingston Whig-Standard is any indication.
It’s a tough one because there is no one answer. There is no one reason why someone would want to boo me. Maybe they don’t like what I wear, how I sound, maybe I did something to offend them, but for me, it’s hard because I’m under the microscope and I’m dealing with a lot of different things and there’s a lot of things flying my way. For me, I can only continue to stay within myself and worry about the things I can control and the things I can control are, Am I healthy?; Am I showing up to where I need to be on time?; Am I here to perform and do my job? If I do that, then our fans, they can cheer me, they can boo me, as long as we all show up to the arena, everything will be fine. We’ll be able to create that awesome experience, create that energy. As for the reasons why these things happen, I don’t know. I do know I have a lot of supporters. These people have my back. There’s nothing that anybody can say negatively to me that will make me believe you are correct. It’s just your opinions. I’m an ex-football player, so I’ve been in a home environment, I’ve played in an away environment. As long as I know the supporters are still by me, even if they’re not in the arena, I hear them on social media and I know they’re out there. If you’re riding with me, it’s going to be a good ride. If you’re going against me, we’re sorry for what’s going to happen next
http://411mania.com/wrestling/roman-reigns-there-is-no-one-reason-why-someone-would-want-to-boo-me/
Emperor Smeat
03-26-2016, 08:33 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
03-26-2016, 08:40 PM
Apparently Reigns doesn't have an idea on why people boo him if a recent interview with the Kingston Whig-Standard is any indication.
http://411mania.com/wrestling/roman-reigns-there-is-no-one-reason-why-someone-would-want-to-boo-me/
What an absolute load of balls he spoke. Not that he can say anything else, but I'd prefer he just didn't talk about it.
Ruien
03-26-2016, 09:07 PM
What an absolute load of balls he spoke. Not that he can say anything else, but I'd prefer he just didn't talk about it.
So what should he say when asked? Next question?
Tom Guycott
03-26-2016, 09:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeVyfFyUkAA6kFS.jpg
Something very sad about that picture.
He hates cake
For some reason, the first thing that my brain tried to work out was some pun about Taker It Easy...
Then, I wondered about the poster, and if those alleged stickers ever got made?
Wishbone
03-26-2016, 09:17 PM
So what should he say when asked? Next question?
How about just a simple "I don't know" and then move on instead of the long ass explanation that he went through that essentially boiled down to the same thing?
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-26-2016, 09:18 PM
So what should he say when asked? Next question?
Shrug his shoulders? No sell it? But his answer was a load of shit. He's getting booed because hes been miscast. He's easily a big draw but not in his current being forced down our throats role.
Austin, Rock and even Hogan got over because they developed their schtick over a long time. Somebody didn't just look at them when they were still raw and decided they were #1 awesome guy who overcomes all the odds and dogs down deep or the next week is super badass who plays by his own rules and then next week is cracking jokes and calling people son.
thekrow
03-26-2016, 10:21 PM
Austin, Rock and even Hogan got over because they developed their schtick over a long time.
Those guys were already born with the talent but is true that it needs to be practiced to get it just right over time. Not every wrestler can "develop" their way into personality/charisma and mic skills.
Reminds me of Swede Savard, even in the early days of his career, he showed glimpses of his badass "funny jackass" character. It took a lot of practice to get Swede to really shine and be comfortable in the role but that's how he is. I wouldn't call it "development" though but instead practice or maybe nurturing.
On a side know, you can go to www.swedesavard.com, the brand new internet home of the pride of philly and watch his CHW matches from day one and you can see what I am talking about!
For some reason, the first thing that my brain tried to work out was some pun about Taker It Easy...
Then, I wondered about the poster, and if those alleged stickers ever got made?
Yes, yes they did :'(
Droford
03-26-2016, 10:59 PM
The Undercaker
Black Widow
03-27-2016, 07:26 AM
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Volare
03-27-2016, 08:16 AM
Oh rly now Sunny?
Maybe she's getting Dolph's current look mixed with HBK.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-27-2016, 08:44 AM
Dolph's such a mark he probably did just because it was Sunny.
I mean, he even dated Amy Schumer.
Volare
03-27-2016, 09:07 AM
I don't think I'd ever want to date or be around Amy Schumer.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 09:25 AM
I like Amy Schumer, she just believes in her own hype a bit much and could possibly be a joke thief.
Tom Guycott
03-27-2016, 09:57 AM
Shrug his shoulders? No sell it? But his answer was a load of shit. He's getting booed because hes been miscast. He's easily a big draw but not in his current being forced down our throats role.
Austin, Rock and even Hogan got over because they developed their schtick over a long time. Somebody didn't just look at them when they were still raw and decided they were #1 awesome guy who overcomes all the odds and dogs down deep or the next week is super badass who plays by his own rules and then next week is cracking jokes and calling people son.
Once again, The Rock himself is the perfect example of this. They tried to force feed Flex Kivana as the hot new babyface, Rocky Miavia... just on the merit of him being hot new babyface. It took "Die Rocky Die" and his stint with The Nation for an actual character to develop. Not saying Reigns *should* go heel, as I know that isn't an automatic fix. However, trying this "formulaic" approach on making him the next breakout talent to go to Hollywood is fucking stupid, and if they let the guy breathe and develop into what works for him, he could have possibly been in that role of a top draw by this year's 'Mania organically.
Tom Guycott
03-27-2016, 10:01 AM
Oh rly now Sunny?
Hey, maybe his on-camera work with Vicki G was analogous to his off-camera work with Sunny?
Either way, Candido is spinning in his grave from jelousy.
Evil Vito
03-27-2016, 10:53 AM
Dolph's such a mark he probably did just because it was Sunny.
To be fair I'm pretty sure 95% of this board would still do 2016 Sunny just because it's Sunny.
erickman
03-27-2016, 10:53 AM
Once again, The Rock himself is the perfect example of this. They tried to force feed Flex Kivana as the hot new babyface, Rocky Miavia... just on the merit of him being hot new babyface. It took "Die Rocky Die" and his stint with The Nation for an actual character to develop. Not saying Reigns *should* go heel, as I know that isn't an automatic fix. However, trying this "formulaic" approach on making him the next breakout talent to go to Hollywood is fucking stupid, and if they let the guy breathe and develop into what works for him, he could have possibly been in that role of a top draw by this year's 'Mania organically.
lets hope they can heel roman up it may be a quick fix but that's what they are stuck with. since that is the last match at wrestlemaina wwe better use the crowd booing to there advantage, they need a Hogan turning nwo moment make it big.
#1-norm-fan
03-27-2016, 11:02 AM
Once again, The Rock himself is the perfect example of this. They tried to force feed Flex Kivana as the hot new babyface, Rocky Miavia... just on the merit of him being hot new babyface. It took "Die Rocky Die" and his stint with The Nation for an actual character to develop. Not saying Reigns *should* go heel, as I know that isn't an automatic fix. However, trying this "formulaic" approach on making him the next breakout talent to go to Hollywood is fucking stupid, and if they let the guy breathe and develop into what works for him, he could have possibly been in that role of a top draw by this year's 'Mania organically.
As long as they're scripting promos and micromanaging every character like they do nowadays instead of letting guys go out there and sink or swim on their own, it's gonna be tough for anyone to develop into what works for them.
Emperor Smeat
03-27-2016, 02:55 PM
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03-27-2016, 03:07 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 03:08 PM
Why do they feel the need to script promos so hard, it clearly is not working. Why not just let it happen how it used to? It makes no sense. Micromanaging to such an extreme never works in any avenue. Have faith in your talent
Lock Jaw
03-27-2016, 03:12 PM
Micromanaging works in McDonald's where the goal is to produce the same food the same way across every chain in the nation, so that when you go to a McDonald's you know what to expect.
WWE being public now, they want that same kind of "standardization" of the brand where everything will always be the same, equal and controlled.
Lock Jaw
03-27-2016, 03:13 PM
Talking out of my ass there, btw.
Wishbone
03-27-2016, 03:39 PM
Nah, Lock Jaw, you're 100% right on that statement. WWE, like McDonald's, would rather have uniform shit than something unique and good. It's standard business practice. If people are dumb enough to accept the shit you shove down their gullets, and if it's cheaper and easier to give them the shit, then why change anything? That's their mentality anyway.
Emperor Smeat
03-27-2016, 04:17 PM
Besides what Lock Jaw said, another reason is because management actually disliked the creative style used during the Attitude Era and Hogan Era.
Vince/WWE probably figures if they control everything, then nobody can ever be bigger than the brand and never have to worry about another WCW-like threat from ever happening again.
If someone tries to get over big time without the WWE's direct involvement, either that gets squashed or WWE quickly takes complete control so they can claim all the credit.
Tom Guycott
03-27-2016, 04:21 PM
Bigger problem, in my opinion, is that WWE itself has become too big. They've become so successful for so long that they seem to have forgotten what it was that got them there. It is why fans. An hijack shows and crowds can shit the bed from lack of response... because most of the paying crowds aren't going to a wrestling show so much as they're attending some event to simply say they were there.
It is a major reason why NXT is so good: it is where WWE was about 20 years ago, AND caters to the fans of wrestling as actual fans of wrestling, for everything that encompasses.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 04:43 PM
Lock jaw and smelly meatball have made some unreal posts here.
I'm now a lock jaw smeatball sheep,,,,,,,,,
Tho with this mentallity, Vince and co should never be shocked when his mass produced overly processed garbage of a product is not well received. Tho, maybe he doesn't really care about the "state of the product"
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 04:44 PM
Oh also dig Mr. Guycotts responses. Love y'all.
Lock Jaw
03-27-2016, 04:45 PM
As long as you don't make any sudden moves to scare the shareholders, it is all good....
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 04:46 PM
I do understand micromanaging to a degree, as far as quality control and being on top of your product. But Tue script.writing for people who are not actors is just brutal. But I think meatballs point of not wanting the product to be that "hot" makes sense. Because then wrestling itself can get hot again, and that means the potential for competition.
Lock Jaw
03-27-2016, 04:46 PM
John Cena definitely would have had a heel turn or two under his belt by now if WWE wasn't a public company, I feel.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 04:48 PM
I dunno it's not like Vince would have ever turned Hogan heel. Dena is pretty much that kind of vanilla pandering douchey face.
Lock Jaw
03-27-2016, 04:53 PM
I think if Hogan had stayed in WWF, Vince definitely would have turned him at some point.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 06:37 PM
Ok I'll bite - particularly after his homophobic rant against Joey Ryan and calling Lucha Underground the worst thing to have ever happened to the business, what in 2016 makes Jim Cornette marvellous?
Lol, Jim Cornette isn't homophobic. Joey Ryan is a twat.
EDIT: Sorry, I posted this before everyone else replied to you about it. You've been thoroughly corrected on the issue already.
Black Widow
03-27-2016, 06:40 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 06:47 PM
On the issue of Cornette: It's phenomenal how many people still think he was "wrong" about Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn. I saw Corny do an interview with some guy recently and Cornette explained to the guy what he has said all along. Corny finishes the interview and the guy goes "Hmm, you have to be impressed by the brains of Jim Cornette. He not only reversed what he said about Owens and Zayn but also made it look like a win for him."
No, you douche -- Cornette has been saying those things about Owens & Zayn all along. It's the IWC that twists it into some sort of "Oh, he only likes 80's wrestling" or "Oh, he only likes guys with blonde mullets and ripped bodies" thing. It's a complete straw-man for guys like Owens, The Young Bucks, Joey Ryan, Jari and that douche interviewer to attack the guy for things he hasn't said and doesn't philosophically believe to make some sort of cheap point over the guy because you have nothing else.
Cornette: Kevin Steen is a good promo. To make it in the WWE he'll need to lose some weight -- not all his weight, but some -- gel his hair or something and get ring gear that doesn't make him look like fat yoga mom. Oh, and he's got to the stop insisting on putting women through tables.
*Steen loses some weight, gets personalized gear and gels his hair. Apparently stops refusing to do what's been set out for him. Stops putting women through tables.*
Steen: Look, Cornette! I made it! Haha!
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 06:48 PM
All these guys consistently prove his point about them.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 06:50 PM
Owens even recently took to Twitter to brag about headlining the live event in Louisville as a dig at Cornette. I'll be honest -- there was a part of me that smiled a bit when reports came out that people starting leaving early during Owens' match. I like the guy as a performer, don't get me wrong, but there was a humble pie moment in it.
Hey, Owens still got paid and is still heading towards Mania with the IC Title on him. I'm sure he's more than happy. I'd just stop being preoccupied with an "old guy" who has always objectively ranked you as a worker very highly.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2016, 07:35 PM
People just can't handle Cornette being right about things because he's such an asshole at the same time. He's entertaining as hell and hopefully his show will be better without the chore of a co-host. Heard she quit twitter.
Droford
03-27-2016, 08:05 PM
It just dawned on me that the new day being geeks like they are Will have the Ninja Turtles in their entrance as a shameless tie in for the new movie like Terminator last year.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2016, 08:09 PM
It just dawned on me that the new day being geeks like they are Will have the Ninja Turtles in their entrance as a shameless tie in for the new movie like Terminator last year.
Sheamoose is in the movie. So using the movie to insult one of the stars of the movie probably would be nixed by Michael Bay.
Droford
03-27-2016, 08:33 PM
Meh I bet they'd like the exposure
Vastardikai
03-27-2016, 08:58 PM
On the issue of Cornette: It's phenomenal how many people still think he was "wrong" about Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn. I saw Corny do an interview with some guy recently and Cornette explained to the guy what he has said all along. Corny finishes the interview and the guy goes "Hmm, you have to be impressed by the brains of Jim Cornette. He not only reversed what he said about Owens and Zayn but also made it look like a win for him."
No, you douche -- Cornette has been saying those things about Owens & Zayn all along. It's the IWC that twists it into some sort of "Oh, he only likes 80's wrestling" or "Oh, he only likes guys with blonde mullets and ripped bodies" thing. It's a complete straw-man for guys like Owens, The Young Bucks, Joey Ryan, Jari and that douche interviewer to attack the guy for things he hasn't said and doesn't philosophically believe to make some sort of cheap point over the guy because you have nothing else.
Cornette: Kevin Steen is a good promo. To make it in the WWE he'll need to lose some weight -- not all his weight, but some -- gel his hair or something and get ring gear that doesn't make him look like fat yoga mom. Oh, and he's got to the stop insisting on putting women through tables.
*Steen loses some weight, gets personalized gear and gels his hair. Apparently stops refusing to do what's been set out for him. Stops putting women through tables.*
Steen: Look, Cornette! I made it! Haha!
He also said that El Generico is a great worker, but he'll be more successful as a Top Babyface if he took his mask off and started talking.
Both Steen and Generico got successful because they did exactly what Cornette ultimately requested, but I guess it made more sense to them because it was said by someone who wasn't Cornette?
I'd almost argue that Cornette really wanted them to succeed, but they were in their own way, to an extent.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2016, 09:40 PM
Looks like after i traveled to Brooklyn and going to travel to Dallas to see them NXT has finally booked a show in Massachusetts. They are coming to Lowell Mass in April. They've literally gone around the world before touring in their own backyard. So...odd.
Emperor Smeat
03-27-2016, 09:48 PM
To give a small counter, a lot of the hate Cornette has gotten in recent years is probably due to how badly he mishandled ROH and most of those same guys during the time he was in charge there.
Owens taking jabs at Cornette online is likely him remembering the bad stuff Cornette said about him and less about if Cornette ended up being right or not. Same for the Young Bucks and other wrestlers Cornette trashed over the years.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:01 PM
He also said that El Generico is a great worker, but he'll be more successful as a Top Babyface if he took his mask off and started talking.
Both Steen and Generico got successful because they did exactly what Cornette ultimately requested, but I guess it made more sense to them because it was said by someone who wasn't Cornette?
I'd almost argue that Cornette really wanted them to succeed, but they were in their own way, to an extent.
I think that's basically it. Triple H has more he can offer Owens and Zayn, so of course they're going to buddy up with more.
Owens and Cornette actually seem to have very similar personalities. I mean, I say that without knowing either one personally -- but they both seem the sort to say things quite directly and cause friction if things aren't going their way. Cornette rubbed Owens the wrong way and Owens rubbed Cornette the wrong way. If they weren't in wrestling, they'd probably love each other.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:05 PM
To give a small counter, a lot of the hate Cornette has gotten in recent years is probably due to how badly he mishandled ROH and most of those same guys during the time he was in charge there.
Owens taking jabs at Cornette online is likely him remembering the bad stuff Cornette said about him and less about if Cornette ended up being right or not. Same for the Young Bucks and other wrestlers Cornette trashed over the years.
Have you seen the shoot where Cornette explains what went down with ROH. Fascinating stuff. Basically, his plan was to turn it in something like what NXT became under Triple H. They'd have a fixed "Honor Arena" and they could do their own lighting and production. Cornette also wasn't technically the booker. He worked closely with Delirious, but he became a scapegoat for ROH fans. This is where the "Cornette's an old out of touch man" stuff came from. Then you listen to his ideas and you're like "Wow, that would have actually been really cool if they would have just done Cornette's actual idea."
And as Cornette says, Delirious put the World Title on Kevin Steen, even if Cornette and Delirious were like "Dude, we need you to do this" and he didn't do it. You know -- he didn't do his job.
The Young Bucks can be a lot of fun, but everything Cornette seems to be say about them is "Nice kids, egos the size of mountains, do too many superkicks, they bury their own shit and don't even realize it."
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:09 PM
In defense of guys like The Young Bucks and Joey Ryan: I can understand their desire to stand out. They want to make a name for themselves out of WWE, so they do shit that makes people click on that YouTube video. For them that's the pay-off, and I guess that's their right.
I appreciate more the guys you know can do more but aren't insecure enough to need to "get all their shit in." There's a "Young Bucks Principle" with getting noticed -- just because these guys do all that stupid shit, doesn't mean they can't work without it. The same goes in reverse, often for WWE guys -- just because you don't see them do fucking moonsaults and springboard piledrivers doesn't mean they can't do them. Remember that the next time you see Heath Slater BABBBBAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:10 PM
For full disclosure: I think the WWE will eventually sign The Young Bucks and they'll be super-over in that Hardy Boyz kind of way.
Emperor Smeat
03-27-2016, 10:28 PM
Have you seen the shoot where Cornette explains what went down with ROH. Fascinating stuff. Basically, his plan was to turn it in something like what NXT became under Triple H. They'd have a fixed "Honor Arena" and they could do their own lighting and production. Cornette also wasn't technically the booker. He worked closely with Delirious, but he became a scapegoat for ROH fans. This is where the "Cornette's an old out of touch man" stuff came from. Then you listen to his ideas and you're like "Wow, that would have actually been really cool if they would have just done Cornette's actual idea."
Never saw the shoot video he did but remember a bit about him wanting to make some drastic changes to ROH.
Him constantly rubbing people the wrong way and his hot-headed reputation ended up killing whatever goodwill he had for those plans. Same for his views on certain wrestlers even if they were actually right in the end.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:35 PM
By the way I hear it told, a basic general lack of caring and financial support from the Sinclair offices is what fucked up those plans.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:37 PM
Still hoping that Hulk Hogan takes some of his Gawker money and starts up the Hulk Wrestling Federation to step to Vince. Hogan calls up Kevin Sullivan, Jim Cornette and Dutch Mantel to book the shows -- either together or in sort of shifts. Maybe Cornette gets the tag teams, Mantel gets the women and Sullivan gets the singles guys? Something like that.
I'd cum watching the first episode.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2016, 10:42 PM
Listened to a legal expert on the PWTorch podcasting system and he seems to think he could lose on appeal or the amount could drastically come down.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2016, 10:45 PM
The last time somebody won alot of money and threw it into a wrestling company....
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Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:46 PM
Like, if I'm Hogan, I've already rung up Bobby Roode and told him not to sign with the WWE right away. I'd also have gotten my people in touch with CM Punk's people and been like "Hey man, are you really going to fight? Don't you, your wife and your best friend want a job? I've got a few million to splurge on this baby. I mainly want you to come out to whatever theme music you want and talk shit about how the WWE ruined your love for wrestling but these people brought it back, yadda, yadda...cool, we tape Tuesdays."
I'd have also left similar voicemails for Kurt Angle, Rey Mysterio, Goldberg and Dave Bautista. And I'd have reached out to Konnan about him possibly leaving AAA and bringing some trusted luchadors over to pad out my show and whether or not he'd mind being paid like $150,000 a year to be a talent scout and advocate for the product. Just keep the lucha on our show fresh, dawg. We want to build a guy for Rey at our big show, so let me know who it's going to be and we won't beat him for a year.
Hey, JR wanna do commentary? Would you rather work with Cornette or would you like us to get someone younger, like Striker or Josh Barnett? I'm sure New Japan and us can work something out. I'll send them Angle for a big show and we'll showcase Okada over here for them. We'll have them fight for the IWGP on our big show actually. What's another main event going to hurt?
I think you can do all of that for...$18 million, brother. Maybe you even take over Vince's lead and manage to get some TV production company to jump in and you can leave them with even more of the costs down the line, slowly, slowly pulling your own money out and disappearing off into the sunset -- their first Hall of Fame inductee and a man forever associated with a new dawn in professional wrestling.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:47 PM
The last time somebody won alot of money and threw it into a wrestling company....
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That's almost exactly what I had in mind. But with wrestlers.
Mr. Nerfect
03-27-2016, 10:49 PM
Listened to a legal expert on the PWTorch podcasting system and he seems to think he could lose on appeal or the amount could drastically come down.
Oh, it's probably going to get appealed or reduced, no doubt. And as I've said elsewhere, Hogan would probably use it only to get leverage back with Vince and signed to some sort of legends deal again, where he gets paid for basically not working anywhere else.
But if I am Hogan, and I wanted to start my own vanity project to get some of my rep back (and a lot of the negative Hogan stuff has been swept under the rug since the trial began), then doing something for the industry that made me (and that I helped make) would seem like an obvious option. He'd probably get Bischoff and The Nasty Boys to help him run it though.
The CyNick
03-27-2016, 11:11 PM
People just can't handle Cornette being right about things because he's such an asshole at the same time. He's entertaining as hell and hopefully his show will be better without the chore of a co-host. Heard she quit twitter.
I've listened to more interview featuring Jim Cornette than just about anyone else in sports entertainment (Nash might have him beat), and I dont think I've ever heard anything he said where I sat back and went "Jim made a good point". He's the definition of bitter old man who cant accept that he couldnt book and make money in today's day and age if his life depended on it. He's sad really.
Droford
03-27-2016, 11:25 PM
Hogan was probably near flat broke like Flair I bet he owes people almost as much as he got
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-27-2016, 11:26 PM
I've listened to more interview featuring Jim Cornette than just about anyone else in sports entertainment (Nash might have him beat), and I dont think I've ever heard anything he said where I sat back and went "Jim made a good point". He's the definition of bitter old man who cant accept that he couldnt book and make money in today's day and age if his life depended on it. He's sad really.
Fuck Nick, if you think so little of him why did you waste so much time listening to him?
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-27-2016, 11:51 PM
He said more interview. He just listens to the same one over and over again.
Bad News Gertner
03-28-2016, 12:21 AM
Cornette has never booked a successful period of wrestling
1989-90 WCW was a mess
Smokey Mountain failed
WWF 1995-1997 was the worst time in the promotion
TNA was a failure
ROH was a mess, despite Corny's claim (like he does with every other time he's bombed) that it wasn't his fault.
What's does he hang his hat on? OVW?
Blue Demon
03-28-2016, 01:04 AM
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03-28-2016, 01:05 AM
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I wish I could rep this more than once.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2016, 01:48 AM
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Was this his biggest dick waving or was the WCW Buyout speech/episode bigger? This probably seemed alot more subtle back then since the audience didn't really know he was the owner
Nicky Fives
03-28-2016, 04:08 AM
I personally love Cornette.... the guy has a strong personality and no filter between his brain and mouth.... If I were starting a pro wrestling company tomorrow, he would be the first person I would call....
Jordan
03-28-2016, 10:38 AM
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I just never get tired of this. It's got so much subtext for Vince's character. I love it, probably my favorite thing WWE ever produced. The graveled Vince voice "BABAY BABAY BABAYYYY WATCH'EM DROP"! He's fucking awesome.
Jordan
03-28-2016, 10:39 AM
It also feels like he's like "Dad are you watching! I'm doing it Dad!"
Vastardikai
03-28-2016, 11:10 AM
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I feel like this should be a TV Show. Papa and Boogey. Just these two guys, in full regalia, doing random things week after week. This should be on the WWE Network. And I fully expect to be made producer of this, so I can get fat paid for the idea.
The CyNick
03-28-2016, 11:16 AM
Fuck Nick, if you think so little of him why did you waste so much time listening to him?
I don't anymore
I listened to a lot of his stuff and formed my opinion.
The CyNick
03-28-2016, 11:17 AM
I personally love Cornette.... the guy has a strong personality and no filter between his brain and mouth.... If I were starting a pro wrestling company tomorrow, he would be the first person I would call....
And if you let him book or contribute creatively, you would be out of business.
Big Vic
03-28-2016, 11:23 AM
See guys, CyNick is right sometimes.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:25 AM
I don't anymore
I listened to a lot of his stuff and formed my opinion.
But by the sounds of it you listened to more of him than anyone else. How could it take you so long to realize he was awful? Sounds like you are spending your time like some weird basement dwelling virgin with no job. I'm just saying.
#1-norm-fan
03-28-2016, 11:44 AM
Yeah, WWE would be out of business in a week if Cornette was booking. In all the fantasy booking I've heard him talk about he hasn't mentioned ONE fart gimmick. Ridiculous! Him and his old school, stuck-in-the-past, fart-hating booking.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:52 AM
I think Cornette would be good on a very progressive booking team. He understands the basics of it, but he's a bit stuck in the past. Take the principles, apply it to more modern styles.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:52 AM
Which means I would never hire him as a head booker.
Can the defenders of the 3 times fired from a creative role in his last three company's please refer me to a time in which a company was thriving whilst he had a part to play in creative?
Big Vic
03-28-2016, 12:06 PM
No
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 12:58 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 01:04 PM
Just marry me already becky lynch. you know we were meant to be.
Hanso Amore
03-28-2016, 01:30 PM
Now i get why Noids fantasy booking is so shitty, he's a cornette mark
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 01:35 PM
Gosh Matthew you always add so much to the forums with your lovely comments.
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 01:38 PM
TNA managed to find a good investor for their current money woes but like every past instance, Dixie is the biggest obstacle in getting a deal done.
It was previously reported that TNA has been in talks with potential investors. On Wrestling Observer Radio (via wrestlinginc.com), it was said that recent talks are very serious. One party looking to invest wants to obtain a majority interest; Dixie Carter wants investors but reportedly does not want to sell a majority of the company. Dave Meltzer noted that the potential partners are looking for something around 55% of the company.
Evil Vito
03-28-2016, 02:09 PM
WWE have sent me three separate e-mails in the past week asking me to sign back up to the Network.
When they did this in February they went as far as to give me a free month (which I then cancelled again before the auto-renew date). I imagine they'll start handing out freebies again after Mania.
It's a great service but my interest in giving WWE any of my money right now is less than zero.
Schlomey
03-28-2016, 02:30 PM
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The CyNick
03-28-2016, 03:34 PM
Can the defenders of the 3 times fired from a creative role in his last three company's please refer me to a time in which a company was thriving whilst he had a part to play in creative?
According to the IWC he was in charge of all the money drawing elements of the Attitude Era and none of the crap stuff.
Shadrick
03-28-2016, 04:11 PM
According to the IWC he was in charge of all the money drawing elements of the Attitude Era and none of the crap stuff.
It's almost as if he had someone above him that approved the good ideas and shitcanned the bad ones.
Innovator
03-28-2016, 04:24 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 04:39 PM
According to the IWC he was in charge of all the money drawing elements of the Attitude Era and none of the crap stuff.
No, you're thinking of what Russo claims. You fucking moron.
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 04:40 PM
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I want to watch this because of Becky, but I am 80% sure this is the guy who listened to Cornette say "The sky is blue" and then went "Did you hear Cornette change his story from the sky is red?" Ugh.
Wishbone
03-28-2016, 04:45 PM
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How the hell does Becky Lynch manage to be so hot and so adorable at the same time? Shouldn't be physically possible. The more I see of her the more I begin to question whether she's real, or if she's just a figment of my imagination that all of you seem to be capable of seeing as well.
Evil Vito
03-28-2016, 04:46 PM
Tazz Dan > Joan Lunden
The CyNick
03-28-2016, 04:47 PM
No, you're thinking of what Russo claims. You fucking moron.
Negative. Russo takes credit for everything - good and bad. I don't think he knows the difference between which things were good and which were bad. That's HIS problem.
Ask your buddy Meltz about Cornette's role.
Can the defenders of the 3 times fired from a creative role in his last three company's please refer me to a time in which a company was thriving whilst he had a part to play in creative?
Anyone?
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Now i get why Noids fantasy booking is so shitty, he's a cornette mark
I'm awaiting, with baited breath, for the moment he pitches the NWA invasion of Hulk Hogan's new promotion.
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 05:45 PM
Negative. Russo takes credit for everything - good and bad. I don't think he knows the difference between which things were good and which were bad. That's HIS problem.
Ask your buddy Meltz about Cornette's role.
I negative your negative.
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Snoop Dog going into the Hall of Fame
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 05:50 PM
He was in creative when WWE started to turn the corner against WCW, eventually overtaking them.
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 05:50 PM
He also created the Hell in a Cell, but whatever -- no bigs.
Not going to lie, I would be very keen to see him accompany Sasha to the ring for the Triple Threat. Ric Flair going batshit crazy and throwing his jacket at Snoop might actually save the entire show for me.
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 05:52 PM
Sasha Banks emerges with him from a smoke-filled car.
He was in creative when WWE started to turn the corner against WCW, eventually overtaking them.
He also created the Hell in a Cell, but whatever -- no bigs.
Referencing things that happened 19 years ago - that's definitely the way to go when defending someone accused of being out of touch and outdated.
Sasha Banks emerges with him from a smoke-filled car.
This would require Becky Lynch to have someone and knowing the WWE it would probably be Hornswoggle. Or Finn Balor playing her river dancing cousin whilst Michael Cole bangs on about how "The Demon Finn Balor just loves to have fun" and JBL shouts "YOU STILL GOT IT! YOU STILL GOT IT!"
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 05:59 PM
On the issue of Cornette: You make it sound like good wrestling needs to be successful anyway, yet you're a fan of Lucha Underground? They seem to have a few seasons mapped out, but don't tell me they're *thriving* with their 217,000 viewers a week, or whatever they get. It's still got 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Jari, don't become a Cynick shadow where you can't separate quality from success.
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 06:00 PM
Referencing things that happened 19 years ago - that's definitely the way to go when defending someone accused of being out of touch and outdated.
That's when he fucking worked for the company! That's like asking when the last great Shawn Michaels match was, someone tells you it was 2010 and you're like "six years ago, right, what a hack". Get real, banana peel.
Mr. Nerfect
03-28-2016, 06:01 PM
This would require Becky Lynch to have someone and knowing the WWE it would probably be Hornswoggle. Or Finn Balor playing her river dancing cousin whilst Michael Cole bangs on about how "The Demon Finn Balor just loves to have fun" and JBL shouts "YOU STILL GOT IT! YOU STILL GOT IT!"
Shit. You know they are going to do the Becky Lynch/Hornswoggle thing, don't you?
That's when he fucking worked for the company! That's like asking when the last great Shawn Michaels match was, someone tells you it was 2010 and you're like "six years ago, right, what a hack". Get real, banana peel.
If Shawn Michaels had worked for (and been fired by) multiple companies since 2010 then yeah that would be right...
On the issue of Cornette: You make it sound like good wrestling needs to be successful anyway, yet you're a fan of Lucha Underground? They seem to have a few seasons mapped out, but don't tell me they're *thriving* with their 217,000 viewers a week, or whatever they get. It's still got 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Jari, don't become a Cynick shadow where you can't separate quality from success.
Yes I am a fan of Lucha Underground, a critically acclaimed TV show, that your hero has referred to as the worst thing to ever happen to the business or words to that affect, in it's infancy which I firmly believe will go on to do better and bigger things if they can score the right kind of deal with regards to how the product is broadcast.
If you're going around telling me that someone is a creative genius without being able to point out any actual sign of genius (did he create the Hell in a Cell or is that just his word cause, you know, people in the wrestling business are notoriously honest? I also could have sworn I remember HBK saying he had seen a cage match with a ceiling and he proposed that idea to Vince)
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 06:25 PM
UK's Rev Pro promotion joining Evolve and Progress Wrestling in hosting qualifiers for WWE's upcoming cruiserweight tournament.
Tournament itself debuts mid-July although full results will be known by late June due to tapings.
WWE announced today that the Global Cruiserweight Series will debt on the WWE Network on July 13th. The series will run for 10-episodes, and will feature 32, 205 pound competitors. The same article also confirmed that EVOLVE Wrestling, PROGRESS Wrestling and Revolution Pro Wrestling will all host bouts in the coming weeks to help determine some of the competitors.
That the current plan for WWE’s Global Cruiserweight Series tournament is to tape the entire tournament the week of June 20th at Full Sail University. They will tape for five days.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 06:25 PM
I haven't watched Lucha Underground, but honestly if you think about it, main stream over the years, people seem to really identify with luchadores. Hopefull they can make some moves.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/714550756607672320
Snoop Dog going into the Hall of Fame
He was in creative when WWE started to turn the corner against WCW, eventually overtaking them.
He also created the Hell in a Cell, but whatever -- no bigs.
You guys not quoting posts made me actually look up wtf Snoop Dogg had to do with WWE Creative and HIAC :fu:
drave
03-28-2016, 07:11 PM
It's almost as if he had someone above him that approved the good ideas and shitcanned the bad ones.
BALLGAME MAGGEL!
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 07:13 PM
Snoop Dogg while probably not a creator of HIAC I could see being a huge advocate for its merits.
BALLGAME MAGGEL!
YOU STILL GOT IT! YOU STILL GOT IT! YOU STILL GOT IT!
#1-norm-fan
03-28-2016, 07:36 PM
Jari. You literally asked for "a time in which a company was thriving whilst he was part of creative" and got an example only to claim "Nah. Too long ago." Between that and the "homophobic rant" comment it seems pretty obvious you're willing to bend truths and skew things to exactly where you want them in order to justify hating Cornette.
Evil Vito
03-28-2016, 07:37 PM
The more I read Reigns' various comments about people booing him the more I think he needs to have a nice long chat with Cena about how to handle the situation. Cena's reached the point where half of the audience is booing him actually becomes part of his act, and he plays along with it and it gets to the point where the half of the crowd chanting "Cena Sucks" are doing so with a smile on their face.
Cena is good enough to roll with the punches, Reigns to this point isn't. He sticks to the script and him just carrying on and acting as though the bad reactions aren't there just makes him look more uncomfortable in his role and entirely un-organic.
Evil Vito
03-28-2016, 07:38 PM
And I have to say, I want a reason to cheer Reigns. In fact I want reasons to cheer all the faces and boo all of the heels.
But at this point I think so many of the faces being booed isn't the crowd trying to be edgy as much as it is that most of the faces are written like complete assholes.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 07:44 PM
Reigns is also WAY out of his depth. Cena was a veteran when this started happening to him and had been on top for quite some time.
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 08:32 PM
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That GIF made me chuckle.
Tom Guycott
03-29-2016, 03:56 AM
And I have to say, I want a reason to cheer Reigns. In fact I want reasons to cheer all the faces and boo all of the heels.
But at this point I think so many of the faces being booed isn't the crowd trying to be edgy as much as it is that most of the faces are written like complete assholes.
And why crowds warm up to people like New Day AFTER they went full heel. They sucked ass as a face stable because that gimmick was not going to work as a face gimmick in this day and age; it reeked of being hokey and disingenuous. Playing up said hokiness and disingenuous... ness is what made them effective heels, which, in turn made them popular because it gave them personality people could get behind.
I mean the feud in ROH between Dalton Castle and Silas Young; the face and the heel dynamic there would have been totally the other way not even 15 years ago. If those two were in WWE, Vince would have still likely tried to make Dalton the heel, and only begrudgingly altered this plan when it was clearly not working because the crowds aren't instantly homophobic anymore.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-29-2016, 06:49 AM
Roman Reigns post Wrestlemania tron and music leaked.
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Having had the chance to sleep on it these are my feelings about Monday Night Raw
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In better news I went from under 9,000 in rep to over 12,000 in one sitting of Raw.
I got more over than Roman Reigns last night!
Droford
03-29-2016, 09:45 AM
I don't know who had the bright idea "let's send the Wyatts to the New York Stock Exchange to ring the bell" this morning but it's the dumbest dann thing ever
Evil Vito
03-29-2016, 09:49 AM
I don't know who had the bright idea "let's send the Wyatts to the New York Stock Exchange to ring the bell" this morning but it's the dumbest dann thing ever
Makes perfect sense to me. A creepy, inhumane cult looking to destroy everything in its path. And the Wyatt Family.
Vastardikai
03-29-2016, 09:53 AM
Makes perfect sense to me. A creepy, inhumane cult looking to destroy everything in its path. And the Wyatt Family.
Gives a whole new meaning to "Follow the Buzzards," does it not?
Evil Vito
03-29-2016, 09:54 AM
I really hope they took the subway to get there. NYC subways are packed beyond measure during the morning commute. Can only imagine what it'd be like to see the fucking Wyatt Family in full gear pack themselves in.
Evil Vito
03-29-2016, 11:12 AM
Dammit, after Wyatts/NYSE thing I now I want Raven in WCW style vignettes where it turns out Bray Wyatt is just a spoiled rich kid whose put-upon dad IRS pays for his commune, followers, and "hippy ways" at the behest of his mother who just wants her son to be happy.
Vastardikai
03-29-2016, 11:57 AM
Dammit, after Wyatts/NYSE thing I now I want Raven in WCW style vignettes where it turns out Bray Wyatt is just a spoiled rich kid whose put-upon dad IRS pays for his commune, followers, and "hippy ways" at the behest of his mother who just wants her son to be happy.
which would actually be a clever storyline, all things considered. Especially if his followers didn't realize it.
And if it were someone to reveal it, it could spark something amazing. As goofy as the Raven Bueller bits were, I think it could work if played straight.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-29-2016, 01:05 PM
I don't know who had the bright idea "let's send the Wyatts to the New York Stock Exchange to ring the bell" this morning but it's the dumbest dann thing ever
Too bad his dad couldn't make it put it to the real tax cheats!
Emperor Smeat
03-29-2016, 02:27 PM
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Emperor Smeat
03-29-2016, 03:09 PM
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From /r/SquaredCricle
According to Dave Meltzer, WWE Expected Eva Marie to get a babyface pop.
It's like, you can never predict the audience, no matter how smart you are. And WWE.. you know, sometimes they can and sometimes they can't, especially now. But this one? This one was a no-brainer. And the idea that they didn't figure it out.. This was one where I was really surprised how they didn't figure this out. This was an easy one. It is the typical WWE, they're trying to go right, but they can't help themselves from going left. They think that she (Eva) is so hot that everyone is going to like her. It didn't work in NXT and it obviously didn't work tonight. People have so much access to photos of hot women, that being a hot woman who can't wrestle, it doesn't mean shit anymore. There was a time when it did with Tammy Sytch and Sable. But times change. If Braun Strowman showed up in the Hogan era, they could have done Wrestlemania with him and match would have sucked, but they would have drawn big money.
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great scene between Vince and Bryan. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE24?src=hash">#WWE24</a> <a href="https://t.co/vsgGJvzKOi">pic.twitter.com/vsgGJvzKOi</a></p>— DTAM (@DeathToAllMarks) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeathToAllMarks/status/714775304800223232">March 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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#BROKEN Hasney
03-29-2016, 03:30 PM
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The CyNick
03-29-2016, 03:36 PM
Curious why Dave can't point out who specifically thought Eva would get a babyface reaction? The babyface girls acted like she was a heel. So unless they went into business for themselves, maybe creative knew the reaction she would get.
Jordan
03-29-2016, 05:39 PM
To those talking about a Ravenesque Bray Wyatt twist, YES that would be awesome...
Imagine Dolph Ziggler reveals that he has a ground breaking secret about a WWE superstar on twitter. And like the story going around the net of some "huge slanderous rumor" every can't stop talking about it. After weeks of WWE interviewers prying to get the secret, he comes to the ring to expose Bray Wyatt as a fraud. Video footage is show of the Wyatt family totally out of "character", they aren't these psycho's they're normal guys. They discuss popular sports, famous women, and openly discuss scare tactics to try and get a "better spot" on the card. Bray talks about wanting to fill the spot that The Undertaker is leaving behind. And ends up giving an envelope to the rest of the family, implying payment for their services...
Bray has no choice to but face the music. And all is changed, he drops the gimmick and comes off more like the spoiled Raven character from WCW. Whining about what is fair to him. He even brings his brother into it. He is getting super emotional, almost a meltdown coming on with a feeling of impending violence towards Dolph. Bo comes out, breaking character and tries to console his brother. As Dolph watches Bo and Bray hash it out on the mic, the rest of Wyatt family comes to the ring. Sure they are big and scary but they drop the movie monster gimmick and show concern over Bray. Just as the make it to the apron, Bray snaps and attacks Bo, knocking him out and attacking him with ground and pound. Dolph tackles Bray to stop the attack, the rest of The Wyatt family looks confused but snap into gear and immediately follow Bray and attack Dolph and Bo.
Now Bo is put in a postion to do something, and it's as a baby face. Dolph is the main face in a big storyline. And they can enlist the help of a few others to take on the new version of The Wyatt Family.
Bray has new motivation as a heel that will be much less likely to get a babyface pop.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 05:46 PM
Curious why Dave can't point out who specifically thought Eva would get a babyface reaction? The babyface girls acted like she was a heel. So unless they went into business for themselves, maybe creative knew the reaction she would get.
If he used proper nouns you'd believe him? HA! Joke.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 05:47 PM
If Shawn Michaels had worked for (and been fired by) multiple companies since 2010 then yeah that would be right...
You're going to side with TNA on this one? You know, the promotion that fired Jim Mitchell because if he was getting booed that much, he must be a really evil man?
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 05:52 PM
Yes I am a fan of Lucha Underground, a critically acclaimed TV show, that your hero has referred to as the worst thing to ever happen to the business or words to that affect, in it's infancy which I firmly believe will go on to do better and bigger things if they can score the right kind of deal with regards to how the product is broadcast.
If you're going around telling me that someone is a creative genius without being able to point out any actual sign of genius (did he create the Hell in a Cell or is that just his word cause, you know, people in the wrestling business are notoriously honest? I also could have sworn I remember HBK saying he had seen a cage match with a ceiling and he proposed that idea to Vince)
You're jumping into Cynick territory here. Be careful.
You completely missed the Lucha Underground point. Slow clap. The point is that just because a guy isn't writing for WWE RIGHT NOW (!) doesn't mean he hasn't forgotten more about professional wrestling than you've ever known.
Go back and watch Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's seriously about as good as NXT -- if you can pull your head out of your ass and watch it with a time context in mind. You should also try listening to Cornette some time -- it might open you up about some things.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 05:55 PM
Jari. You literally asked for "a time in which a company was thriving whilst he was part of creative" and got an example only to claim "Nah. Too long ago." Between that and the "homophobic rant" comment it seems pretty obvious you're willing to bend truths and skew things to exactly where you want them in order to justify hating Cornette.
:y:
Jari seems pretty cool. He/she just got hot when Corny knocked a product they like. But there's a really big line between "I don't agree with this person on this" and "What do they know, huh? They never did anything? Oh, that thing? La-la-la not listening. Oh, another thing? No, not counting that either. Also they hate gays and blacks and punch kittens."
why did Triple H decide to be billed from Connecticut if he's playing a total badass and whatnot
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:07 PM
I think it's a hangover from the gimmick he played when he first came in the snobbish blue blood, isn't it?
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:07 PM
He probably didn't change it to completely assimilate with the McMahons.
I think it's a hangover from the gimmick he played when he first came in the snobbish blue blood, isn't it?
Oh, that makes sense, I guess.
Was he a snobbish blue blood when he debuted as Hunter Hearst Helmsley? Cause wiki tells me he's been billed from Connecticut since then.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:18 PM
Yeah, that's when he did that. It was aimed to make fun of all the other millionaires around Vince, or something.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 06:26 PM
You're jumping into Cynick territory here. Be careful.
You completely missed the Lucha Underground point. Slow clap. The point is that just because a guy isn't writing for WWE RIGHT NOW (!) doesn't mean he hasn't forgotten more about professional wrestling than you've ever known.
Go back and watch Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's seriously about as good as NXT -- if you can pull your head out of your ass and watch it with a time context in mind. You should also try listening to Cornette some time -- it might open you up about some things.
I've listened to Cornette, he's a bitter old man. He has had no success in the business in decades, but people on the Internet act like he has.
Vastardikai
03-29-2016, 07:05 PM
You're jumping into Cynick territory here. Be careful.
You completely missed the Lucha Underground point. Slow clap. The point is that just because a guy isn't writing for WWE RIGHT NOW (!) doesn't mean he hasn't forgotten more about professional wrestling than you've ever known.
Go back and watch Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's seriously about as good as NXT -- if you can pull your head out of your ass and watch it with a time context in mind. You should also try listening to Cornette some time -- it might open you up about some things.
A company that gave us some of Landell's best work. And the Heavenly Bodies were hot shit. He also introduced the U.S. to Jericho and Storm. Other guys who got noticed? Bob Holly, Brian Lee, The Gangstas (their SMW stuff > their ECW stuff), Candido, Sunny. And one other guy. Oh yeah, KANE.
SMW did as much for mainstream wrestling in the 90s as any other Indy. Including ECW.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 07:06 PM
I've listened to Cornette, he's a bitter old man. He has had no success in the business in decades, but people on the Internet act like he has.
He last worked for the WWE eleven years ago. Isn't that your definition of success?
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 07:06 PM
A company that gave us some of Landell's best work. And the Heavenly Bodies were hot shit. He also introduced the U.S. to Jericho and Storm. Other guys who got noticed? Bob Holly, Brian Lee, The Gangstas (their SMW stuff > their ECW stuff), Candido, Sunny. And one other guy. Oh yeah, KANE.
SMW did as much for mainstream wrestling in the 90s as any other Indy. Including ECW.
That was 20 years ago though. You can't remember stuff like that.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 09:16 PM
Evil Emma will be on the USA Network portion of the pre-show. So will the Andre Battle Royal.
Emperor Smeat
03-29-2016, 09:27 PM
Dirtsheets sponsored by Mattel's newest series of WWE action figures:
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The final Raw before WrestleMania did 3.77 million viewers, an 11 percent increase from near historical lows for non-football season posted for the show on 3/21 from Philadelphia.
A show that advertised every major character from WrestleMania appearing, including Vince McMahon, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar and Shane McMahon, from the Barclays Center, was down 10 percent from the WrestleMania go-home show last year which did a 3.03 rating and 4.19 million viewers. The 2014 go-home show did a 3.18 rating and 4.38 million viewers ...
The three hours were:
8 p.m. 3.82 million viewers
9 p.m. 3.85 million viewers
10 p.m. 3.64 million viewers
Next week's show is likely to be the highest rated Raw of the year, as that is the usual pattern for the day after WrestleMania. It is usually about two weeks after WrestleMania where the ratings settle into what ends up being the usual spring levels.
RAW ended up being better than last week although continues the trend of being lower than the same week last year. Baring a massive disappointment, next week should be the highest of the year although current trends also has it lower than last year's Post-Mania show.
The WWE's final two honorees for the Hall of Fame ceremony will be Snoop Dogg and Joan Lunden.
Snoop Dogg, who is related to Sasha Banks and has been on WWE television a few times over the years, will be the celebrity inductee. It had been rumored within wrestling for weeks and reported in past Wrestling Observer Newsletters that they were talking, and in wrestling circles, the belief was that it was a done deal.
Also reported at the time was Lunden, who will receive the Warrior award.
While the Snoop Dogg announcement was made via email, John Cena made the announcement on Lunden Monday morning on The Today Show. Lunden will be presented with the award on Saturday night by Dana, the widow of the Ultimate Warrior. Lunden, best known for her hosting Good Morning America was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2014, and very publicly battled through chemotherapy and radiation treatment.
WWE announced that Slick (Ken Johnson) will be inducting Big Bossman into the Hall of Fame.
Progress Wrestling will be hosting two qualifying matches for WWE's new Global Cruiserweight promotion. April 24th will be the date of the tapings. These matches will begin the qualifying matches for the Global Cruiserweight tournament, designed to showcase lighter weight wrestlers and high flyers that are not necessarily already under contract to WWE. No names were announced for the matches, but names like Zack Sabre Jr., Will Ospreay and Marty Scurll immediately come to mind. Many former WWE performers that meet the cruiserweight limit (205 lbs) have also been contacted.
Update to the Cruiserweight tournament news mostly in regards to the part of former WWE wrestlers getting contacted for it. UK's Rev Pro Wrestling is also hosting qualifiers as well.
Ethan Carter III (Michael Hutter) gave an explanation today on this Facebook page that the cancelation of his appearance at the Southside Wrestling and Preston City Wrestling shows in England was his choice, and not TNA's. He did not state specifically what the conflict was, but wrote, "Unfortunately, due to a previously unforeseen opportunity to continue building a rapport between TNA Wrestling and one our of television network partners, I was forced to cancel my appearances with both Southside and Preston City Wrestling April 2-3. Canceling is not something I take lightly." EC3 promised to make it up to the fans and the promotions. Perhaps, he would start by selling his foam fingers that he had specifically made for this trip at a discounted rate, but that's purely speculation.
Karl Anderson was at the Performance Center in Orlando earlier today[Monday]. As noted, his arrival on television in WWE, along with that of Doc Gallows, is imminent.
Fenix suffered a badly broken nose Saturday night at the Lucha Underground tapings.
Fight Network, the world’s premier 24/7 multi-platform channel dedicated to complete coverage of combat sports, and TNA Entertainment announced today they have entered into a comprehensive content partnership to seize a global digital audience for fight-based content.
Fight Network’s over-the-top (OTT) app available on digital platforms will become the global home for TNA Wrestling content starting in the second quarter of this year. Fight Network and TNA Wrestling will collaborate to produce digital content and will also partner on cross-promotion and joint sales efforts in global markets, as well as in the U.S. and Canada.
Fight Network’s OTT app is available on Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Verizon Go90, Layer 3 and KlowdTV.
Fight Network is currently the home of TNA Wrestling programming in Canada, including its two hour flagship weekly program IMPACT WRESTLING, TNA Wrestling’s Greatest Matches and TNA Xplosion. Fight Network will now also air select TNA Wrestling archive programming on its linear channels in select U.S. markets and in over 30 countries across Europe, Africa and the Middle East where Fight Network currently broadcasts.
Angelina Love, who recently gave birth to her son, announced on Twitter that she is gone from TNA and will be taking bookings in June. She noted that her contract with TNA expired while she was out pregnant. Her husband, Davey Richards, is still with TNA and rehabbing a torn ACL in his left knee.
It's like, you can never predict the audience, no matter how smart you are. And WWE.. you know, sometimes they can and sometimes they can't, especially now. But this one? This one was a no-brainer. And the idea that they didn't figure it out.. This was one where I was really surprised how they didn't figure this out. This was an easy one. It is the typical WWE, they're trying to go right, but they can't help themselves from going left. They think that she (Eva) is so hot that everyone is going to like her. It didn't work in NXT and it obviously didn't work tonight. People have so much access to photos of hot women, that being a hot woman who can't wrestle it doesn't mean shit anymore. There was a time when it did with Tammy Sytch and Sable. But times change. If Braun Strowman showed up in the Hogan era, they could have done Wrestlemania with him and match would have sucked, but they would have drawn big money.
Observer on the WWE literally believing Eva Marie was going to be cheered for her surprise appearance last night on RAW. Also for putting her on the face team for the Divas tag team match at Mania.
Recently on WOOOOO! Nation, two-time WWE Hall Of Famer Ric Flair talked extensively about his WrestleMania 18 match with The Undertaker.
When Flair returned to WWE in the fall of 2001, he was not going to be used as an in-ring performer. A couple of months later, Flair would find himself in a street fight with Vince McMahon at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view. According to Flair, The Undertaker asked to work with him at WrestleMania a few weeks later and Triple H broke the news to him shortly thereafter.
"Hunter walks out to me at [WWE Monday Night] RAW about a month [after WWE Royal Rumble] and says, 'Taker wants to work with you at 'Mania.' I said, 'what?' I mean, I was in shock, right, that he would [want to]. He said, 'yeah, well, Taker wants to work with you at WrestleMania.' And I said, 'my God, I'm overwhelmed. That's great.'" Flair continued, "I was just thrilled. I never dreamed that I would even be in that spot again because when I told him I'd come back [to WWE], I thought I was never going to wrestle. It ended up, obviously, being part of my legacy, wrestling all those matches ...
Unlike Flair's WrestleMania 8 contest with 'Macho Man' Randy Savage, which took days to orchestrate, Flair said that he and The Undertaker, along with Michael Hayes and Arn Anderson, worked out the match the day of WrestleMania and most of it was called in the ring ...
According to Flair, he was paid in Canadian dollars for WrestleMania 18, which was broadcast live from Toronto, Canada.
"Well, the difference is, remember, this is in Canada. And so, at that time, we got paid in Canadian dollars. I actually made more money wrestling Randy [Savage at WrestleMania 8 in Indianapolis, Indiana] than I did wrestling this match."
Some other sheet news includes:
Sports Illustrated recently had an article dealing with why ESPN tends to be very active with wrestling coverage during Mania week. http://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/03/27/media-circus-wwe-espn-wrestling-coverage
ESPN had a recent article dealing with WWE's injury crisis and its role hurting the Road to Mania this year. http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/15075017/real-life-injuries-taken-their-toll-wwe-ahead-wrestlemania-32
Taz announced Jim Ross and Todd Grisham will be his guests for Sunday's podcast episode after Mania ends.
Mauro Ranallo announced on Twitter he will be calling the action during Mania's pre-show matches. Will also be on the panel for NXT Takeover's pre-show. https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/status/714871149788684288
According to the Observer, Taker-Shane is currently set as the main event match for Mania 32.
In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is the 18th anniversary of Stone Cold Steve Austin defeating HBK to win the WWF title at Mania XIV.
In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, The Usos have been involved in 4 Manias so far in their career and all those matches have been on the pre-show. In terms of the main roster, 2nd longest tenured wrestler/team to never have a match on the actual ppv. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4cgis6/the_wm_32_kickoff_show_will_be_the_4th_wm_preshow/
Lucha Underground's Ivelise revealed on her Instagram page she is currently dealing with a foot injury. https://www.instagram.com/p/BDi198hgMei/
According to several sheet sources, Daniel Bryan is currently pushing for the WWE to release him from contract with the promise to not wrestle anywhere else. NJPW is rumored to be interested in signing him if he can get out of the contract. WWE also doesn't believe in his promise nor wants him to show up at other promotions. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4cgckj/wnw_report_regarding_daniel_bryan/
Lock Jaw
03-29-2016, 09:32 PM
WWE announced that Slik (TPWW Poster) will be inducting Big Bossman into the Hall of Fame.
I will cut a promo about NAILZ first
4 matches confirmed for the PRE-SHOW
WWE App/YouTube:
U.S. Title
Kalisto (c) v. Ryback
Usos v. Dudley Boys
USA Network:
Andre The Giant Battle Royal
Team Lana v. Team Bella
WRESTLEMANIA 32:
Grudge Match
AJ Styles v. Chris Jericho
Divas Title
Charlotte (c) w/ Ric Flair v. Sasha Banks v. Becky Lynch
Tag Team Titles
New Day (c) v. League of Nations
IC Title - Ladder Match
Kevin Owens (c) v. Sami Zayn v. Stardust v. Dolph Ziggler v. The Miz v. Sin Cara v. Zack Ryder
Street Fight
Dean Ambrose v. Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman
WWE Title
HHH (c) v. Roman Reigns
Hell In a Cell - Control of RAW v. Retirement
Shane McMahon v. The Undertaker
+ appearance by The Rock and The Hall of Fame class 2016
Lock Jaw
03-29-2016, 10:41 PM
Kallisto and Ryback isn't even on the main show? What is the point....
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 10:49 PM
Either to switch the title to Ryback or have him slip on a banana peel to try and condition fans to believe that Kalisto can beat big guys. Even though he already beat Ryback in the WWE Title tournament heading into Survivor Series.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 10:50 PM
But Ryback wears small trunks now and does faux MMA stuff, so he's a lot scarier.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 10:50 PM
JR is for a Triple H/Roman Reigns double-turn.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 10:53 PM
And the silence when he's wrestling is due to the crowd being scared of him due to his credibility with his muscles and whatnot.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 10:53 PM
I am very much for a HHH Roman double turn
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 10:53 PM
I hate HHH but he IS good enough to pull it off.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 10:54 PM
Random idea (not saying I'm for this): Triple H is about to lose the World Title to Roman Reigns when Bray Wyatt interjects himself. "Anyone but you, Roman." He takes out Reigns and Triple H retains. The Game is about to leave with the title when Bray grabs and a mic and says "Where are you going, Hunter?" Bray wants a WWE Title shot right now. Triple H says Wyatt is losing it trying that Hulk Hogan shit here. You suddenly hear Stephanie screaming. Braun Strowman and Erick Rowan have her. Triple H is furious. Bray goads him into the title match. Wyatt hits the Sister Abigail and pins Triple H to leave WrestleMania the WWE World Champion.
It's at least an exit strategy that would cause a stir.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 10:54 PM
"THAT. DAMN. GOOD"
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-29-2016, 10:55 PM
"THAT. DAMN. GOOD"
He doesn't say that nearly enough anymore. I think Steph was the last one to say it. :(
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-29-2016, 10:57 PM
4 matches confirmed for the PRE-SHOW
WWE App/YouTube:
U.S. Title
Kalisto (c) v. Ryback
Usos v. Dudley Boys
USA Network:
Andre The Giant Battle Royal
Team Lana v. Team Bella
WRESTLEMANIA 32:
Grudge Match
AJ Styles v. Chris Jericho
Divas Title
Charlotte (c) w/ Ric Flair v. Sasha Banks v. Becky Lynch
Tag Team Titles
New Day (c) v. League of Nations
IC Title - Ladder Match
Kevin Owens (c) v. Sami Zayn v. Stardust v. Dolph Ziggler v. The Miz v. Sin Cara v. Zack Ryder
Street Fight
Dean Ambrose v. Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman
WWE Title
HHH (c) v. Roman Reigns
Hell In a Cell - Control of RAW v. Retirement
Shane McMahon v. The Undertaker
+ appearance by The Rock and The Hall of Fame class 2016
Don't forget the
3 on 2 Handicap match:
King Heisenberg, Team SlikDamo Vs. Food and Drink.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 10:57 PM
That way you can put Brock over Ambrose, which allows Brock to keep his killer magic. Ambrose can be made via the loss as well as through a win. Triple H has got a reason to want Wyatt dead. Brock will be going after Wyatt. Reigns will have rapper's beef with Bray's drive-by of him at Mania.
Wyatt can beat Triple H at Payback, Reigns & Lesnar can face The Wyatt Family or something. Ambrose can be upset that Reigns is teaming with the guy who took him out. I dunno, I'm just shooting shit out.
Random idea (not saying I'm for this): Triple H is about to lose the World Title to Roman Reigns when Bray Wyatt interjects himself. "Anyone but you, Roman." He takes out Reigns and Triple H retains. The Game is about to leave with the title when Bray grabs and a mic and says "Where are you going, Hunter?" Bray wants a WWE Title shot right now. Triple H says Wyatt is losing it trying that Hulk Hogan shit here. You suddenly hear Stephanie screaming. Braun Strowman and Erick Rowan have her. Triple H is furious. Bray goads him into the title match. Wyatt hits the Sister Abigail and pins Triple H to leave WrestleMania the WWE World Champion.
It's at least an exit strategy that would cause a stir.
You might as well turn Stephanie and have her be Sister Abigail at this point. Stephanie plus Shane w/Wyatt Family vs Vince and HHH w/Roman Reigns.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 10:59 PM
Steph taking Triple H out because it's "best for business" is certainly a new dynamic to the McMahon family drama.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 11:01 PM
In the Attitude era, you just know they would have put Seth Rollins in a compromising situation with Steph...
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 11:01 PM
If they don't do Triple H vs. Reigns as the main event, it really wouldn't surprise me if they had it open the show. Reigns wants Triple H RIGHT NOW! Get it out of the way.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 11:03 PM
You might as well turn Stephanie and have her be Sister Abigail at this point. Stephanie plus Shane w/Wyatt Family vs Vince and HHH w/Roman Reigns.
Or just not have the McMahon's on tv since they don't wrestle and they steal all of the worker's heat. Just a thought.
Or just not have the McMahon's on tv since they don't wrestle and they steal all of the worker's heat. Just a thought.
Let's not go THAT wild here.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-30-2016, 12:01 AM
sorry mate. I forgot the only people allowed to get over on Vince's tv are McMahon and McMahon associates.
Lock Jaw
03-30-2016, 12:26 AM
McMahons = ratings
Everyone else = hurts the ratings
Fignuts
03-30-2016, 02:50 AM
Arn Anderson coming out and hitting the spinebuster on Taker was my favorite moment from WM X8 barring the Hogan vs Rock match.
Everyone in the arena went nuts.
Rammsteinmad
03-30-2016, 04:48 AM
As much as I'm not interested in the U.S. title match, I'd have preferred that to be on the main card.
With all the injuries and lack of star power they have right now, and despite the shitty booking of pretty much every match, that card does look solid enough that all of todays roster could really benefit from with the chance to shine. Of course, it'll all be negated as soon as Cena/Orton/Undertaker/Triple H come back or steal the spotlight next time or whatever.
Rammsteinmad
03-30-2016, 04:50 AM
Steph taking Triple H out because it's "best for business" is certainly a new dynamic to the McMahon family drama.
Just what the WWE universe wants. Triple H vs. Stephanie McMahon V.2.
Droford
03-30-2016, 09:13 AM
HHH winning and then Shane winning would create a more interesting story..in hoping they go that way
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