"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[BigCrippyZ]

TBF, I've never heard that Dunn's father actually caused the car fire, though I suppose it's possible. I guess Vince felt that, no matter who, if anyone, was at fault for the car fire, that by potentially risking his life or serious injury, Vince owed Dunn's father, which is understandable.

I don't think it's reasonable to keep Kevin Dunn on in the role he has currently with how creatively bad the camera work is even if Kevin's good at his job. That's probably occurred because Kevin Dunn is essentially one of Vince's "yes men" who will do what Vince prefers without pushing back even if he does disagree with Vince's creative vision, and/or Dunn might know some of Vince's secrets too. If Vince just wanted to keep Kevin on staff because of Dunn's father, he could've easily kept Kevin on at the same salary doing something else.

[slik]

Riddle vs Rollins has been pulled from SummerSlam

[Sepholio]

boy they wait until the last minute to run the fake injury angle on Riddle here.

So who do they have surprise come out to fight Rollins? Orton? Edge? Bray?

[Sepholio]

Imagine if mjf came out to challenge Rollins woooooo

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For anyone who purchased a ticket to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a> hoping to see me in action, I apologize. I did everything I could over the last 6 months to earn my spot on this show, but some things are out of my control. Thank you for always singing my song. They’ll hear ya someday.</p>&mdash; Seth “Freakin’” Rollins (@WWERollins) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERollins/status/1552356136808026118?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Sell me your name.” The illustrious <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HeymanHustle</a> provides invaluable wisdom to Superstar hopefuls. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETryouts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETryouts</a> <a href="https://t.co/batrgbSqeP">pic.twitter.com/batrgbSqeP</a></p>&mdash; WWE Recruit (@WWERecruit) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERecruit/status/1552383096103878657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE SummerSlam<br>Sat • Jul 30 • 6:30 PM<br>Nissan Stadium, Nashville, TN<br><br>Available Tickets =&gt; 3,286<br>Current Setup/Capacity =&gt; 37,752<br>Tickets Distributed =&gt; 34,466<br><br>[<a href="https://t.co/yRCOtL75Yu">https://t.co/yRCOtL75Yu</a>] <a href="https://t.co/C5BKoouGWT">pic.twitter.com/C5BKoouGWT</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTix (@WrestleTix) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTix/status/1552378155683532802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hear you! <a href="https://t.co/rnU2TabagV">https://t.co/rnU2TabagV</a></p>&mdash; Triple H (@TripleH) <a href="https://twitter.com/TripleH/status/1552427345604124676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HULK HOGANS HAIR HAS BEEN IN A RECESSION FOR OVER 40 YEARS</p>&mdash; The Iron Sheik (@the_ironsheik) <a href="https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik/status/1551744523977609219?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

I've never seen this counter before.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hakushi is resurrected for one night and has a few tricks from the great beyond up his sleeve for The Undertaker. (10.10.97)�� <a href="https://t.co/geGCMuCXDR">pic.twitter.com/geGCMuCXDR</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1552362144024387584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Taker working with Hakushi in general is interesting.

[Sepholio]

Jaysussssss he bout snatched Takers leg out of the socket too

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I've never seen this counter before.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hakushi is resurrected for one night and has a few tricks from the great beyond up his sleeve for The Undertaker. (10.10.97)�� <a href="https://t.co/geGCMuCXDR">pic.twitter.com/geGCMuCXDR</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1552362144024387584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's cool because he's brought out as a zombie. So he's not just Hakushi, he's undead Hakushi.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not a fan of them pulling Seth Rollins vs. Matt Riddle from the SummerSlam card. I hope something happens on SmackDown which puts it back on the show. Rollins attacking Riddle at the end of the Raw set it up pretty perfectly in a go-home way.

[Sepholio]

Gonna laugh when Rollins is in the ring awaiting his mystery opponent set forth by HHH and the lights go out and HERE COMES THE MONEY

[XL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For anyone who purchased a ticket to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a> hoping to see me in action, I apologize. I did everything I could over the last 6 months to earn my spot on this show, but some things are out of my control. Thank you for always singing my song. They’ll hear ya someday.</p>&mdash; Seth “Freakin’” Rollins (@WWERollins) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERollins/status/1552356136808026118?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Awful.

[XL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Sell me your name.” The illustrious <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HeymanHustle</a> provides invaluable wisdom to Superstar hopefuls. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETryouts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETryouts</a> <a href="https://t.co/batrgbSqeP">pic.twitter.com/batrgbSqeP</a></p>&mdash; WWE Recruit (@WWERecruit) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERecruit/status/1552383096103878657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

“Sell me your name…so that we can quickly run you through the Name Generator and give you something else.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dwight Howard apparently wants to join WWE.

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Sell me your name.” The illustrious <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HeymanHustle</a> provides invaluable wisdom to Superstar hopefuls. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETryouts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETryouts</a> <a href="https://t.co/batrgbSqeP">pic.twitter.com/batrgbSqeP</a></p>&mdash; WWE Recruit (@WWERecruit) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERecruit/status/1552383096103878657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I feel like this is just begging for a bunch of people to misunderstand the point and force their name into promos in the most cringe-inducing way possible.

[xrodmuc316]

I feel like this is just begging for a bunch of people to misunderstand the point and force their name into promos in the most cringe-inducing way possible.

Yes yes, I know, this is a different thread*

Why would these people take Heyman's advice, he didn't even tell them to FEDBAD!?!?! No wonder Fan already projecting it would be "cringe-inducing" and not wholesome, like.....
https://i.imgflip.com/6o91om.jpg :kiss:


BOOOOOOOYA GOT PHIL AGAIN :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Your desperation is showing REAL bad since that Ratings thread debacle. Damn. You’re broken for good aren’t you?

[xrodmuc316]

Your desperation is showing REAL bad since that Ratings thread debacle. Damn. You’re broken for good aren’t you?

You mean the one where you got mad that I wasn't mad over YOY ratings? LOL yeah, you got me good bro!

Also, No Million?

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[#1-norm-fan]

You mean the one where you got mad that I wasn't mad over YOY ratings? LOL yeah, you got me good bro!

No. The conversation on the last page from 2 days ago that quickly made you bitch out and jump into other threads to desperately try to recover your pride. No mention of YOY ratings. Then those all devolved into “FedBad, Phil” nonsense when you failed there. You are REALLY fucking broken. Lol

[#1-norm-fan]

Seriously, this sudden “going into every thread for a Hail Mary attempt at a win since you got embarrassed in the ratings thread” thing is giving off complete breakdown vibes. Are you gonna set your mom’s basement on fire?

Post a random Punk/Tony meme or say “FEDBAD” if someone needs to alert the authorities,

[xrodmuc316]

Seriously, this sudden going into every thread for a Hail Mary attempt at a win since you got embarrassed in that thread thing is giving off complete “breakdown” vibes. Are you gonna set your mom’s basement on fire?

Didn't you just make like 5 posts (in another thread I know shhhh) about how "why would I say anything about you posting in other threads?"

And it clearly isn't getting the response out of me that you want, so you are resorting to "yeah well your mom's basement hahaha".

I am not even sure you know what you are upset about lol

And is THIS what you keep talking about? https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5567261&postcount=4166

Noid posting how Smackdown got more than 4x the ratings as Rampage, and you accused him of pointing that out to..... PROP UP WWE :rofl:

That is where you broke me! Seriously, you interpreted that strangely. You are right about one thing though, I did not have anything further to add to that conclusion you made there. FEDBAD amirite?

[#1-norm-fan]

Jesus. You’re currently confused on like 9 different subjects right now. You should really try taking that leap again. This is nuts.

[xrodmuc316]

You entire complaint is "boy you are so confused". I think it is time, you are right.

[#1-norm-fan]

I was looking for a .gif of a wrestler applauding but I’m not sure which wrestlers might trigger an passionate response and ruin the moment so I’ll just say… I applaud you.

[Sepholio]

You entire complaint is "boy you are so confused". I think it is time, you are right.

You need to stop picking on the mentally disabled. He's just about too far gone to even realize what's happening at this point. I think he's actually bought into his own schtick.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There is a member perusing the boards called “SmartNick.” Please, please, please let this be the return of CyNick. I didn’t appreciate him enough when he was around.

[Sepholio]

lol @ Dwight Howard having a tryout with WWE in Nashville yesterday. Apparently he cut a promo acting like he was Sho'Nuff from The Last Dragon.

[XL]

You mean the one where you got mad that I wasn't mad over YOY ratings? LOL yeah, you got me good bro!

Also, No Million?

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Not allowed to use Seth in GIFs. Doesn’t command enough respect. :y:

[screech]

lol @ Dwight Howard having a tryout with WWE in Nashville yesterday. Apparently he cut a promo acting like he was Sho'Nuff from The Last Dragon.

That's fantastic. It'll get him a shot lol

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It amazes me cumdorx uses AEW not getting 1 million in the ratings is some sort of own or troll, as if anybody who watches and enjoys the product gives two flying fucks.

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewProfilePic?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NewProfilePic</a> <a href="https://t.co/Si2326rQIc">pic.twitter.com/Si2326rQIc</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Bagwell �� (@Marcbuffbagwell) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcbuffbagwell/status/1552999822612905985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

Claudio's new profile pic is way better.

[Fignuts]

Surprised no one has mentioned Rollins other apology he made recently on instagram.

Hello fine folks!

I love interacting with my fans. You guys are the best. Your continued support of me and the @blackandbravewrestling enterprise is what keeps our collective heart beating strong.

Today a couple of young cats saw my wife and me training in the back of the brick and mortar and stopped by to say hello. Unfortunately, I was right in the middle of a loooooong workout. I was very harsh and abrupt in my candor. For that, I apologize. There’s no excuse for that. If either you folks who I was short with today are reading this, please come back another time. I’d love to apologize in person.

That open invite is all inclusive too! Feel free to pop by the school. If I happen to be here, please just be conscious of what’s going on around you! Don’t be deterred if I’m teaching a class or deep in the sweat game. It may take a few extra minutes, but I promise I’m down to take a pic or have a quick chat.

In closing, thank you again to all of you who’ve had our backs over the years! Here’s to many more! Our door is always open (during business hours) so come on by! - @wwerollins

[Fignuts]

Like, I KNOW why this was done. I KNOW that WWE is a publicly traded company, and thus image and perception comes before everything.

But this still makes me throw up in my mouth.

[Fignuts]

Don't read the comments btw. They're just depressing.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a> ‘95 clash between Hakushi &amp; The 1-2-3 Kid was so distinct from almost anything else being presented on WWF tv at the time, it’s no surprise that 25+ years later it’s still one of the most frequently mentioned matches by commenters here. <a href="https://t.co/oZdR2lIlFH">pic.twitter.com/oZdR2lIlFH</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1553076762296422400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Loved these pay per view promos WCW would insert into their weekend shows in 1997 <a href="https://t.co/EO6btF0lsh">pic.twitter.com/EO6btF0lsh</a></p>&mdash; Monsoon Classic (@MonsoonClassic) <a href="https://twitter.com/MonsoonClassic/status/1553150500467609600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewProfilePic?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NewProfilePic</a> <a href="https://t.co/Si2326rQIc">pic.twitter.com/Si2326rQIc</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Bagwell �� (@Marcbuffbagwell) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcbuffbagwell/status/1552999822612905985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

With wrestling being desperate for a female audience now more than ever, it’s the perfect time for Marcus and Scotty Riggs to come back as the polite babyface sex symbols your grandmother hoped you would find when you were a child in the 90s.

[#1-norm-fan]

“I would have dicked you down real good in the 90’s after impressing your grandma by beating down some dirty foreigners. But we’re both older now. You getting a good deal on that mortgage?”

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a> ‘95 clash between Hakushi &amp; The 1-2-3 Kid was so distinct from almost anything else being presented on WWF tv at the time, it’s no surprise that 25+ years later it’s still one of the most frequently mentioned matches by commenters here. <a href="https://t.co/oZdR2lIlFH">pic.twitter.com/oZdR2lIlFH</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1553076762296422400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great stuff. Is that where X-Pac got the Bronco Buster from?

[Bad News Gertner]

You know what, I thought the same thing watching that

[slik]

Mike Johnson of PWInsider is reporting an exclusive that Charlotte Flair is in Nashville currently. He said he has not been able to confirm if she is in town for Ric Flair's final match or SummerSlam though.

[xrodmuc316]

Xavier Woods has no chill :rofl:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Earned? Besides EARNING my crown I EARNED spots in Gears of War, Bomberman, Brawlhalla, and now Fall Guys. But congrats on being available in the 2K community creations. <a href="https://t.co/oqqBp2R9fE">pic.twitter.com/oqqBp2R9fE</a></p>&mdash; Austin Creed (@AustinCreedWins) <a href="https://twitter.com/AustinCreedWins/status/1553022806765588480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

It amazes me cumdorx uses AEW not getting 1 million in the ratings is some sort of own or troll, as if anybody who watches and enjoys the product gives two flying fucks.

Clearly you are wrong, because it pisses off people enough here that it causes them to make posts about it while calling me nicknames.

Damian Doth Protests Too Much Methinks

[Mr. Nerfect]

Clearly you are wrong, because it pisses off people enough here that it causes them to make posts about it while calling me nicknames.

It bothers fanboys and it bothers AEW themselves. Chris Jericho had a trademark lined up pertaining to it. It’s why there’s so much spin around the numbers from their end. They care so, so much, but which invites the trolling.

[Vastardikai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SummerSlam</a> ‘95 clash between Hakushi &amp; The 1-2-3 Kid was so distinct from almost anything else being presented on WWF tv at the time, it’s no surprise that 25+ years later it’s still one of the most frequently mentioned matches by commenters here. <a href="https://t.co/oZdR2lIlFH">pic.twitter.com/oZdR2lIlFH</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1553076762296422400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Lightning Kid was the ORIGINAL Indy Darling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I knew Rico Constantino was older when he got his start and that his age apparently worked against him in the WWE, but I didn’t appreciate it how old he was when he debuted as Billy & Chuck’s stylist. He was 40. He’s older than Billy Gunn. Hell, he’s older than Shawn Michaels.

[drave]

LOVED Hakushi.


Made him in one of the early N64 wrasslin games.

[Bad News Gertner]

Those rings had zero give. Everytime I watch stuff from that era I think of that. How are they not all crippled.

[Destor]

They were incredibly stiff. First few times you get in one the next few days were hell...they were (and are) also huge. 5 steps to clear those cunts. Gotta hit the treadmill when youre working in a full sized. It makes a huge difference. To work at the pace they did in that match in a ring that size.. its impressive

[Destor]

It would still be impressive in a 16 but in a 20 more so

[Bad News Gertner]

They were incredibly stiff. First few times you get in one the next few days were hell...they were (and are) also huge. 5 steps to clear those cunts. Gotta hit the treadmill when youre working in a full sized. It makes a huge difference. To work at the pace they did in that match in a ring that size.. its impressive

That's very interesting

[Sepholio]

So apparently multiple sources are reporting the WWE tryouts in Nashville were such a disaster that they will be immediately going back to scouring the indy feds for talent. A bunch of people got injured. A lot of concussions. They've deemed it too risky to keep bringing in untrained people for further auditions.

[Sepholio]

Kind of a good news/bad news thing there. Sucks a bunch of people got injured but it's great to hear they are going back to picking up people from the indies that at least have some idea of what they are actually doing.

[Fignuts]

What the fuck are they even making these people do in the tryouts that there are multiple concussions? I would think a tryout would consist of cardio and strength tests. Maybe some flat back bumps.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I don’t know what is going on there. I don’t think going back to the indies is necessarily a good thing either. Standout talent, sure, there are lot of bad habits picked up there that kind of got carried into WWE proper.

I think they would be better off having numerous training camps and sending some talent abroad. They seem to be trialing that with Ben Buchanan & Josh Briggs, yeah? I have no clue why they haven’t worked out something with Tom Prichard’s school yet. Send talent to approved indies.

[xrodmuc316]

What the fuck are they even making these people do in the tryouts that there are multiple concussions? I would think a tryout would consist of cardio and strength tests. Maybe some flat back bumps.

Exactly that, the flat back bumps. They don't tuck their chins and they get concussed.

[Destor]

Rings will punch you in the back of the head for sure. i doubt anyone is doing anything with another person day 1. "It aint ballet" and all that

[Destor]

Going back to the indies is about the worst thing they can do though. There's basically no talent left on the indy scene. Trying to teach people with star potential to work is a much better idea

[Mr. Nerfect]

Going back to the indies is about the worst thing they can do though. There's basically no talent left on the indy scene. Trying to teach people with star potential to work is a much better idea

:y:

They’re signing up freakish athletes. Some of the NXT guys are already doing spectacular things, but they can also have the mindset of someone who has competed at high levels. Teach them the fundamentals and psychology of wrestling and they’ll wash out your average indy level worker.

[Destor]

There's an issue thats unique to modern wrestling though in that there are two audiences. 1 hates the other and the other doesn't know the one that hates them exist. And they enjoy basically the opposite things. The die hard/smark VS the casual/non-fan/potential fan.

The problem is now you're searching for a Unicorn. Someone with credibility to pull eyeballs from a disinterested potential/non-viewer and who can cross the isle and get over with the die hard audience. And this gets even more difficult when that core base realizes the guy is over 10% of them will turn on him and spend every waking hour trying to turn other against him too.

I genuinely dont know how to keep a guy over in this era and there's not enough bodies to refresh this cycle every 3 years.

[Fignuts]

I think a mixture of both is the best way to go. So long as you're being selective. Pick experienced guys from outside WWE that aren't completely indyriffic and can actually work, like they did during the height of NXT.

Pick college athletes that actually take it seriously and aren't just looking at it as a stepping stone to be tv stars or whatever the fuck.

I can't see a whole roster of green rookies improving very fast if they're only facing eachother. Mix them with some more experienced indy guys who don't use a Canadian Destroyer as a transitional move, and I think you'll get better results.

[XL]

Yeah, someone here said it before (and got ridiculed for it), take talent where you can get it.

If there’s guys on the indies that you see potential in, sign them. If there’s colleague prospects/crossover athletes that you see potential in, sign them. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

I can see guys like Thatcher, Burch, etc being brought back in if only to work with the greener talent to get them where they need them to be.

[xrodmuc316]

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[Sepholio]

We're trying to help someone get a blimphausen, that's why.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, someone here said it before (and got ridiculed for it), take talent where you can get it.

If there’s guys on the indies that you see potential in, sign them. If there’s colleague prospects/crossover athletes that you see potential in, sign them. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

I can see guys like Thatcher, Burch, etc being brought back in if only to work with the greener talent to get them where they need them to be.

:lol:

That bothered him so much. “No shit, sherlock” statement of the year. No one is saying turn down someone amazing because they come from the indies or vice versa. Signing “good talent” is a no-brainer.

[#1-norm-fan]

Lol Oh yeah! That was the direct response after I first started calling Noid out. Monumental occasion. There’s a really weird running theme that developed at that point where after he or his underling get their bullshit exposed they jump to a different thread and try to start an odd nonsensical argument to “even the score” or something. I don’t know if it’s a tactic they’ve discussed or if it just happens to be a natural defense mechanism for their “kind”.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Puppet pulled a gun on Jeff Jarrett 20 years ago today. <a href="https://t.co/thBjArs2ql">pic.twitter.com/thBjArs2ql</a></p>&mdash; Garrett Kidney (@garrettkidney) <a href="https://twitter.com/garrettkidney/status/1553805442081587205?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

Lol Oh yeah! That was the direct response after I first started calling Noid out. Monumental occasion. There’s a really weird running theme that developed at that point where after he or his underling get their bullshit exposed they jump to a different thread and try to start an odd nonsensical argument to “even the score” or something. I don’t know if it’s a tactic they’ve discussed or if it just happens to be a natural defense mechanism for their “kind”.

Hmmm. I think calling that out has made things worse: now Xrod has taken to posting memes he’s found on Reddit in 3 separate threads.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol so bad ass

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This gif is Meng’s entire debut match in WCW. <a href="https://t.co/Rl4a6fo9Ii">pic.twitter.com/Rl4a6fo9Ii</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1554158391290888193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Meng was so badass.... the thing is, I remember him mostly losing. Just the way he was and the way the commentators talked about him I always took him as a "legit threat" and was always thinking this was gonna be a tough one for whatever babyface was fighting him

[Lock Jaw]

Other random WCW memory that may or may not be real: I distinctly remember Lex Luger having endless matches with The Giant, and every match Luger would pick him up in the torture rack, and every match Schiavone would yell "He just picked up The Giant!!! No one has ever picked up The Giant before!!!!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hmmm. I think calling that out has made things worse: now Xrod has taken to posting memes he’s found on Reddit in 3 separate threads.

Lol, nice try. This guy can’t call out for pizza. He had been obsessed with xrod and myself for months before this. But this really rankled him. He went into every thread and tried to “even the score.” Guy’s projecting big time.

[Helmsphere]

Meng was so badass.... the thing is, I remember him mostly losing. Just the way he was and the way the commentators talked about him I always took him as a "legit threat" and was always thinking this was gonna be a tough one for whatever babyface was fighting him

I still remember him fighting Goldberg for the WCW title on a nitro, I believe the one after Road Wild 98 and he had Goldberg in the Trogan Death Grip and for some reason when Goldberg was being counted, the referee stopped and then it went to the finish of Spear and Jackhammer. Think Meng might of shooted on goldberg at that time or more then likely Goldberg just botched everything.

[#1-norm-fan]

The lame “projecting” fallback. Same one he tried when I pointed out him being a cringey brown-noser.

Excellent posts on this page by XL, BTW!

:lol:

[#1-norm-fan]

I still remember him fighting Goldberg for the WCW title on a nitro, I believe the one after Road Wild 98 and he had Goldberg in the Trogan Death Grip and for some reason when Goldberg was being counted, the referee stopped and then it went to the finish of Spear and Jackhammer. Think Meng might of shooted on goldberg at that time or more then likely Goldberg just botched everything.

I remember that match. Ref didn’t even start a count. Meng just let go as if he thought Goldberg tapped or something. It was weird. I’m sure there’s a story behind it.

[Gerard]

Other random WCW memory that may or may not be real: I distinctly remember Lex Luger having endless matches with The Giant, and every match Luger would pick him up in the torture rack, and every match Schiavone would yell "He just picked up The Giant!!! No one has ever picked up The Giant before!!!!"

Same as wwe years later, anytime big show got f5'd or fu'd by cena the commentators would be spooging over themselves like it was something new despite the fact they'd seen it numerous times before.

[Lock Jaw]

There's a difference between making it out to be impressive and literally saying it was the first time, every time.

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fdv2eh9lLWA?start=1111" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That had to hurt, right on sheiks face :eek:

[XL]

Oof.

[Danny Electric]

RIP to those in the front at Sound & Fury.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardcore/comments/wd68nq/rip_to_those_crushed_by_brody_king_today_at_sf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[Vastardikai]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JpfOPvz3uQc" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Sepholio]

YES!

[Sepholio]

MULKEYMANIA RUNNIN WILD HELL YEAH BORTHER

[Sepholio]

https://i.imgur.com/Os2Mnnh.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

I booked Clash at the Castle for anyone who wants to know how it should go:



* Shinsuke Nakamura wins a Great British Battle Royal over Omos, The Miz, Kevin Owens, Ezekiel, Rey Mysterio, Dominik Mysterio, Chad Gable, Otis, Damian Priest, Mustafa Ali, Shelton Benjamin, Cedric Alexander, Montez Ford, Angelo Dawkins, Madcap Moss, Happy Corbin, Angel Garza, Humberto Carrillo, Mansoor, Mace, Erik, Ivar, Jinder Mahal and Shanky. Some key spots: Mace gets into it with Omos, but is eliminated when he charges and is tossed over. This leads to Mansoor being eliminated to the biggest heat ever. Ford dumps Dawkins from behind. Madcap Moss eliminates Omos in a big spot, but Jinder Mahal then dumps him from behind. The big names at the end are Kevin Owens, The Miz, Rey Mysterio, Montez Ford and Rey Mysterio. The Miz is eliminated by Rey, Ford eliminates Rey, Nakamura then eliminates Ford & Owens to win.

* The New Day & NXT UK Champion Tyler Bate defeat The Brawling Brutes & Sami Zayn when Bate pins Zayn after a Blue Thunder Driver. The New Day add some main roster power to Bate, who gets to tangle with a career rival.

* Gunther defeats Sheamus to retain the Intercontinental Championship. These two can just beat the absolute piss out of each other. Sheamus is probably going to get a featured spot on this show.

* Charlotte Flair defeats Liv Morgan to win the SmackDown Women’s Championship. With Ronda taking some time off, Charlotte comes back to carry the show. You could have Charlotte slip on a banana peel here, but it might be time to move on from Liv.

* AJ Styles & Dolph Ziggler defeat The Usos for the WWE Tag Team Championship. What a tag match this would be. You could have The Usos retain, but I would like the switch here. I’d make a deal out of Styles winning his second WWE Title in the UK and try to pass him off as a guy that matters over there.

* Bobby Lashley defeats Ciampa for the United States Championship. Doesn’t really matter who wins here. There are options for both guys coming out of it. You could do something funky like have Miz throw the towel in for Ciampa, jealous that Ciampa is overtaking him.

* Dakota Kai & Iyo Sky defeat Sasha Banks & Naomi and Alexa Bliss & Asuka to win the Women’s Tag Team Championship. Triple H can probably work out something with Sasha & Naomi before the show. It makes sense for them to eat lumps here as long as there is a plan moving forward. The heel faction walking out with gold makes sense.

* Matt Riddle defeats Seth Rollins and also gets his name back. Should be a great match.

* Finn Balor defeats Edge, because Edge seems to really want to work with him and has been protected so a win for Balor here can be passed off as a big deal.

* Bayley defeats Bianca Belair to win the Raw Women’s Championship. I thought about doing a six-woman tag, but I think this story is big enough to warrant the multiple slots.

* Drew McIntyre defeats Roman Reigns in the main event to win the WWE Universal Championship with Tyson Fury as the special enforcer. I see them switching the belts in the UK. I feel less confident of that as we get closer and closer and Roman seems like more and more of a deal that Drew is not, but I don’t think they’ll beat Drew. I think they’ll try and use this to get him back up there. This could have interference from The Usos, Theory, Ziggler, Styles, Rollins & Riddle and be a huge mess. But hey, that also sets up Survivor Series (which would be ages off though).

[XL]

Decent card. There’s lots I like and bits I’d pass on.

I’m not sure a UK show is the setting for the end of the Reigns reign. Or that Drew is the man to do it.

I got the impression Lashley/Ciampa will be a TV rivalry.

Not down for Ziggler and Styles as a team. I don’t know what you go with Ziggler at this point but not this. Wasn’t Ziggler doing something with Theory??

[Lock Jaw]

Is Ziggy a face again?

[XL]

Yeah.

[XL]

Lashley vs Ciampa is planned for Raw next week. Nothing to say they can’t run it again at the UK show though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Decent card. There’s lots I like and bits I’d pass on.

I’m not sure a UK show is the setting for the end of the Reigns reign. Or that Drew is the man to do it.

I got the impression Lashley/Ciampa will be a TV rivalry.

Not down for Ziggler and Styles as a team. I don’t know what you go with Ziggler at this point but not this. Wasn’t Ziggler doing something with Theory??

He was doing something with Theory. An earlier “draft” I had in my head saw him facing Ziggler or defending the briefcase in a bonus MITB, but I’m happy to put that on ice and move forward with Styles & Ziggler for a short run.

I thought the same about Lashley/Ciampa. Didn’t know it was going to be on PPV next week. I like Lashley’s streak at stadium shows though. Wouldn’t mind this being elongated somehow.

Agree with Drew. I’m not there. I’m just not sure they can beat him in the UK. Well, I guess there’s always a way. But it would feel like modern WWE where very little matters if we’re just asked to accept this loser. But I wouldn’t put it past them.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Triple H speaking straight facts ������ <a href="https://t.co/6yfIqCuSyT">pic.twitter.com/6yfIqCuSyT</a></p>&mdash; Wrestle Features (@WrestleFeatures) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleFeatures/status/1554549448109326339?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

Imagine if Stephanie hadn’t married a wrestling fan.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">hansen knocks dusty out cold as hes trying to get back into the ring <a href="https://t.co/wtlbdcC0lh">pic.twitter.com/wtlbdcC0lh</a></p>&mdash; crash and burn holly (@gifapalooza) <a href="https://twitter.com/gifapalooza/status/1554628190231994369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I take your Hansen, and raise you Sags.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Left the sound on for this one - Jerry Sags absolutely annihilates this poor dude. <a href="https://t.co/fqHzeTZYii">pic.twitter.com/fqHzeTZYii</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1554513502110375936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Oof

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Triple H speaking straight facts ������ <a href="https://t.co/6yfIqCuSyT">pic.twitter.com/6yfIqCuSyT</a></p>&mdash; Wrestle Features (@WrestleFeatures) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleFeatures/status/1554549448109326339?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Been using the big budget movie comparison for a while.

Triple H tapping my conversations confirmed.

[Fignuts]

Dale, you don't raise a Stan Hansen lariat with anything but another Stan Hansen lariat.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I live for stories like this with wrestlers....<br><br>A bad night at a gas station with Iron Sheik in Watertown, New York in 1985 <a href="https://t.co/U50xQBXFYj">pic.twitter.com/U50xQBXFYj</a></p>&mdash; Kris Zellner (@KrisZellner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1554649923357970432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Cactus bumping like a maniac for Jumbo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Even in the post UWF/FMW world, Cactus Jack began turning the heads of fans and media, alike, with his shocking brand of brutality during his 1991 tour of Japan with AJPW, which was already considered by many to be the hardest hitting traditional wrestling company in the world. <a href="https://t.co/BI72cFLOGe">pic.twitter.com/BI72cFLOGe</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1554651131166474240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Apparently a fed called "Fantasy Super Cosplay Wrestling" exists

<iframe width="1620" height="1080" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KoUr3f_QsRg" title="FSCW Wrestlers do the Peacemaker Dance" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[DAMN iNATOR]

Great stuff. Is that where X-Pac got the Bronco Buster from?

I’ve been journeying through ’95 WWF lately, following by month and day (i.e., Friday is August 5, so that’s when I’ll watch it the 8/5/95 episode of Superstars , etc.), as I really haven’t ever watched the majority of it. I do hope they add the November and December episodes of Superstars before I get to where I would be watching those, though, as I’d like as complete a “snapshot”, so to speak of 1995 WWF as possible.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Dale, you don't raise a Stan Hansen lariat with anything but another Stan Hansen lariat.

Stan's my favourite but Sags fucked that guy up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ce been journeying through ’95 WWF lately, following by month and day (i.e., Friday is August 5, so that’s when I’ll watch it the 8/5/95 episode of Superstars , etc.), as I really haven’t ever watched the majority of it. I do hope they add the November and December episodes of Superstars before I get to where I would be watching those, though, as I’d like as complete a “snapshot”, so to speak of 1995 WWF as possible.

I’ve been meaning to do something like this. Would probably give me more of a kick than the modern stuff. My current viewing habits are eclectic though. It might benefit me to order them a bit.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Running back my 107 second Manami Toyota Highlight Reel. Arguably the BEST WRESTLER EVER - AJW (1993-2002) <a href="https://t.co/J6weWV3OH8">pic.twitter.com/J6weWV3OH8</a></p>&mdash; Dark Puroresu Flowsion (@PuroresuFlow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1554576452150038529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

I’ce been journeying through ’95 WWF lately, following by month and day (i.e., Friday is August 5, so that’s when I’ll watch it the 8/5/95 episode of Superstars , etc.), as I really haven’t ever watched the majority of it. I do hope they add the November and December episodes of Superstars before I get to where I would be watching those, though, as I’d like as complete a “snapshot”, so to speak of 1995 WWF as possible.

There's a bunch of Nov and Dec full episodes on YouTube.

[Danny Electric]

Apparently a fed called "Fantasy Super Cosplay Wrestling" exists

<iframe width="1620" height="1080" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KoUr3f_QsRg" title="FSCW Wrestlers do the Peacemaker Dance" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Was just about to post this, in there is Kaleb Konley, Kris Statlander and Leva Bates.

[Evil Vito]

https://scontent.fijd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/287607860_2099891236838655_8362259790598634070_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=lOrCKBzGHGcAX_4Gmrp&_nc_oc=AQn-X3BJ0OgUq3B2Yuu8q5npMV3IBUr3H6up_z9JQ5qN9ON9i8JTFiaZp48Zc5bDhPQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fijd1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-WcCNLiOGlESI2I6eas-zF4bdqD0G-InPmy8xrG7ClHw&oe=62EF1BC4

[Bad News Gertner]

1984 AWA still put on amazing cards despite Hogan leaving.

[xrodmuc316]

https://scontent.fijd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/287607860_2099891236838655_8362259790598634070_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=lOrCKBzGHGcAX_4Gmrp&_nc_oc=AQn-X3BJ0OgUq3B2Yuu8q5npMV3IBUr3H6up_z9JQ5qN9ON9i8JTFiaZp48Zc5bDhPQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fijd1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-WcCNLiOGlESI2I6eas-zF4bdqD0G-InPmy8xrG7ClHw&oe=62EF1BC4

Damn what was Regal like 15 at the time?

[slik]

That is not good -- I wonder if it gives NBCUniversal more or less motive to potentially just buy WWE one day


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Peacock added no paid subscribers in Q2 and lost 1 million monthly active accounts on the free tier. There's help — and options — on the horizon: <a href="https://t.co/q7HTWtymo9">https://t.co/q7HTWtymo9</a> <a href="https://t.co/sFH71cjcfY">pic.twitter.com/sFH71cjcfY</a></p>&mdash; IndieWire (@IndieWire) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1552858957441425409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

https://scontent.fijd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/287607860_2099891236838655_8362259790598634070_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=lOrCKBzGHGcAX_4Gmrp&_nc_oc=AQn-X3BJ0OgUq3B2Yuu8q5npMV3IBUr3H6up_z9JQ5qN9ON9i8JTFiaZp48Zc5bDhPQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fijd1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-WcCNLiOGlESI2I6eas-zF4bdqD0G-InPmy8xrG7ClHw&oe=62EF1BC4

Damn what was Regal like 15 at the time?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

*french kiss*

[Bad News Gertner]

Damn what was Regal like 15 at the time?

Different Regal. This was Mr. Electricity Steve Regal lol

[Evil Vito]

Funny thing is William Regal really did start training and wrestling in the UK when he was only 15, but was still working under his real name (Darren Matthews)

Didn't take on the Steve Regal name until he'd come to the US in the early 90s, and the other Regal had retired.

[DAMN iNATOR]

There's a bunch of Nov and Dec full episodes on YouTube.

Yeah, but I’d rather not have to rely on YT.

[XL]

Agree with Drew. I’m not there. I’m just not sure they can beat him in the UK. Well, I guess there’s always a way. But it would feel like modern WWE where very little matters if we’re just asked to accept this loser. But I wouldn’t put it past them.

Would the spoil what they have with Roman just to send the UK fans home happy? Ultimately they’ll still be the #2 promotion in the UK.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Would the spoil what they have with Roman just to send the UK fans home happy? Ultimately they’ll still be the #2 promotion in the UK.

I don’t know if they’d consider it spoiling.

[Big Vic]

That is not good -- I wonder if it gives NBCUniversal more or less motive to potentially just buy WWE one day


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Peacock added no paid subscribers in Q2 and lost 1 million monthly active accounts on the free tier. There's help — and options — on the horizon: <a href="https://t.co/q7HTWtymo9">https://t.co/q7HTWtymo9</a> <a href="https://t.co/sFH71cjcfY">pic.twitter.com/sFH71cjcfY</a></p>&mdash; IndieWire (@IndieWire) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1552858957441425409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oooo does this include the wrestling shows?

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah, but I’d rather not have to rely on YT.

No problem. It's pretty reliable nowadays. I'm not seeing accounts get zapped like they used to

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WCW did their first German TV special in Oberhausen in 1997, sending a crew of stars.<br><br>They did not send the correct nWo entrance song. It was the instrumental without Neal Pruitt’s “new-new-new world order” soundbytes. <br><br>So, someone backstage improvised to hilarious results. <a href="https://t.co/xJZdzmJO2R">pic.twitter.com/xJZdzmJO2R</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1555238483580559367?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New favorite wrestler. <a href="https://t.co/7nJaOr5vZ8">pic.twitter.com/7nJaOr5vZ8</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1555339244952059904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some glorious French Catch clips from 1968 with Michel Saulnier vs my fave, Le Petit Prince. Mind-blowing stuff - decades ahead of its time. <a href="https://t.co/NbtfbFZkJI">pic.twitter.com/NbtfbFZkJI</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/1554946482805030915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

One of WWEs top NIL prospects, A.J. Ferrari, a rassler from Oklahoma State University, has been removed from the school and charged with sexual battery.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some glorious French Catch clips from 1968 with Michel Saulnier vs my fave, Le Petit Prince. Mind-blowing stuff - decades ahead of its time. <a href="https://t.co/NbtfbFZkJI">pic.twitter.com/NbtfbFZkJI</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/1554946482805030915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fun stuff. So much for guys today “evolving” it, huh? And these guys at least made it seem like they were actually trying to do stuff to each other.

[Mr. Nerfect]

One of WWEs top NIL prospects, A.J. Ferrari, a rassler from Oklahoma State University, has been removed from the school and charged with sexual battery.

I remember him standing out on the collage of all their NIL signings. Unfortunately, that’s going to be the downside to giving untested young athletes publicity — some are bound to turn out to be total dickheads.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Random thought: If the WWE had of never done the roster split in 2002, we could have had a tag team division of Angle & Benoit, Edge & Rey, Los Guerreros, Booker & Goldust and Vitamin C. I could have seen Heyman putting together an ECW team of RVD & Tajiri which would have been fun as shit too.

[Vastardikai]

Different Regal. This was Mr. Electricity Steve Regal lol

Perfect match, IMO:

James Drake (UK), Awesome Kong (Male), Steve Regal (US), and Kendo Nagasaki (JP) vs. James Drake (US), Awesome Kong (Female), Steve Regal (UK), and Kendo Nagasaki (UK).

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">������ <a href="https://t.co/35y1VaM6oV">pic.twitter.com/35y1VaM6oV</a></p>&mdash; Nuke (@nuclearbummer) <a href="https://twitter.com/nuclearbummer/status/1487121982088826881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

This is super cool. Rey Mysterio in 92

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanted to share this video. It's been over 30 years since I've seen this, a completely different look for Rey, a hood before he comes to the ring, then takes it off to reveal his mask. This was less than a month into his AAA career (July 1992) <a href="https://t.co/mLxf6VSeTD">pic.twitter.com/mLxf6VSeTD</a></p>&mdash; Roy Lucier (@roylucier) <a href="https://twitter.com/roylucier/status/1555395980815527936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

This is super cool. Rey Mysterio in 92

Nothing in this post

[Wehttam]

it's there. he's just very tiny

[Lock Jaw]

https://i.imgur.com/z3kknz3.jpeg

Oh yeah.... I think I can see him, maybe

[Bad News Gertner]

Not sure what you guys are talking about

[Lock Jaw]

https://i.imgur.com/z3kknz3.jpeg

[Fignuts]

lol the one guy looks like Ric Flair fused with Demolition

[Lock Jaw]

Forget the name of that piece of classical music but always love it... pretty epic....

Roman has a snippet inspired by it in his theme's intro.... then there was Berlyn in WCW... loved him just for the theme

<iframe width="932" height="524" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/adwsUhA1pCY" title="WCW Berlyn 1st Theme(With Custom Tron)" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Lock Jaw]

Wish more rasslers would use classical music, or remixes/inspiration of them....

I liked the few weeks in NXT where Billie Kay had this theme

<iframe width="932" height="699" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5QyvtP0UyNk" title="WWE NXT: Billie Kay - "Carmen Hip Hop" (Official Theme) + DL Link" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Lock Jaw]

Got listening to just instrumental themes now... don't know if this was inspired by any piece of classical music

<iframe width="932" height="524" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZeTcKL3yNSA" title="Mankind 1996 v2 - "Ode to Freud" WWE Entrance Theme" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But damn, this is like the most soothing s*** ever

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="600" height="338" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rblh_0d7Qlw" title="Randy Savage Entrance Video" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Vastardikai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">������ <a href="https://t.co/35y1VaM6oV">pic.twitter.com/35y1VaM6oV</a></p>&mdash; Nuke (@nuclearbummer) <a href="https://twitter.com/nuclearbummer/status/1487121982088826881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Doug Furnas (sp?)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was just thinking about Furnas & LaFon.

[slik]

Fightful reports HHH plans to resign Karrion Kross

[Gerard]

<iframe width="600" height="338" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rblh_0d7Qlw" title="Randy Savage Entrance Video" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:'(

Still hard to take in he's gone.

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Thats the Original tribute video they done with the coldplay song, they later replaced it with a wwe in house song by jim johnson.

[Fignuts]

I honestly just do not care about Karrion Kross

[Vastardikai]

I honestly just do not care about Karrion Kross

Now, if they re-signed Scarlett, I would be interested. But Kross I can do without.

[Sepholio]

Ric Flair has his own weed now. I need Ric Flair weed.

[#1-norm-fan]

Maybe we can all get it and smoke some in 2 weeks during the Crockett watch-along and ATTENDANCE WON’T GO UP LIKE THE CHALLENGER!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I also don’t care about Karrion Kross. Scarlet is good as the sexpot. WWE made her too sterile and theatrical. Just stick her with anyone and have deep throat phallic objects on air.

[LibSuperstar]

Not big on Kross either. He can talk I'll give him that much.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Ric Flair has his own weed now. I need Ric Flair weed.

To be the man, you gotta weed the man

[Mr. Nerfect]

Adam Pearce has announced a tournament to crown new Women’s Tag Champions starting on Raw. My prediction is that Kai & Sky take the tournament and are then attacked by Sasha & Naomi.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That could result in a tag team Ladder Match between them for the undisputed tag belts. Bayley can be caught in the middle.

[slik]

Sometimes HHH gives people big entrances but the characters aren't really developed beyond that.

Other times H lets their more subtle quirks shine through in the ring. I am genuinely curious though because it is something different than what we've had in a long time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H goes overboard with some entrances. Come on man, let them stand out. And that can’t be all there is to a person.

[slik]

WWE NIL wrestler arrested on sexual battery charges


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AJ Ferrari has been charged with sexual battery. A warrant is out for his arrest with bond set at $25,000.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OKState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OKState</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ocollysports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ocollysports</a> <a href="https://t.co/4HQ6HvS5eG">https://t.co/4HQ6HvS5eG</a></p>&mdash; The O'Colly (@OColly) <a href="https://twitter.com/OColly/status/1554873562749579264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to the Payne County Sheriff’s Office website, AJ Ferrari was booked just over an hour ago. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OKState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OKState</a> <a href="https://t.co/4mQ5ET2jCA">pic.twitter.com/4mQ5ET2jCA</a></p>&mdash; Adam Engel (@AdamEngel9) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamEngel9/status/1555034515424153601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">But answer this please: DID <a href="https://twitter.com/travismastro34?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@travismastro34</a> CLAP???? <a href="https://t.co/UR3ytbCkPd">pic.twitter.com/UR3ytbCkPd</a></p>&mdash; Wrastler (@Wrastling_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wrastling_/status/1555610451567943682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT THE??? <a href="https://t.co/yb1GEh1Ixs">pic.twitter.com/yb1GEh1Ixs</a></p>&mdash; GrappleKlips (@GrappleKlips) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrappleKlips/status/1555729651149987840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Damn. Bring that back please!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wish more rasslers would use classical music, or remixes/inspiration of them....

I liked the few weeks in NXT where Billie Kay had this theme

<iframe width="932" height="699" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5QyvtP0UyNk" title="WWE NXT: Billie Kay - "Carmen Hip Hop" (Official Theme) + DL Link" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I remember some UFC fighter came out to Con Te Partiro and it was badass

[xrodmuc316]

I hope HHH brings back Billie Kay, she was killing it as a solo comedy character.

[Bad News Gertner]

Definitely never got Billie Kay

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I remember I really pushed for WWE to sign Billie and Peyton. I ended up regretting that artistically almost as soon as it happened. All the best to them with their OnlyFans and whatever, but I don’t need to see them on wrestling TV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I cannot wait for Timothy Thatcher vs. Oney Lorcan when Triple H hires both guys back.

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most of these nuggets of wisdom come from learning things the hard way ����█♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/changeordie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#changeordie</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mrbagwell?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mrbagwell</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealDDP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealDDP</a> <a href="https://t.co/7cFG66y1kx">pic.twitter.com/7cFG66y1kx</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Bagwell �� (@Marcbuffbagwell) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcbuffbagwell/status/1555747536207478784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

LMAO I am now in love with Buff "The Stuff" Rogers.

[#1-norm-fan]

An update on the relationship between Bret Hart and Bill Goldberg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today’s update from <a href="https://twitter.com/BretHart?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BretHart</a> himself. <a href="https://t.co/X9yi1fh95K">pic.twitter.com/X9yi1fh95K</a></p>&mdash; Does Bret Hart Like Bill Goldberg? (@GoldbergHart) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoldbergHart/status/1556374763320270848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sepholio]

LOL. He got straight to the point.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are thrilled to announce our partnership with <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRock?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRock</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/SevenBucksProd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SevenBucksProd</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/VICETV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VICETV</a> to bring you TALES FROM THE TERRITORIES. <br><br>Travel to the golden age of wrestling. Exhilarating tales of triumph &amp; perseverance told by the legends who lived them.<br><br>Premieres Oct 4 on VICETV <a href="https://t.co/RMSfl5d3xB">pic.twitter.com/RMSfl5d3xB</a></p>&mdash; Dark Side of the Ring (@DarkSideOfRing) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1556722922886144002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

That’s one step closer to The Rock getting back into wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Chavo is involved as an executive producer. This is not his first Rock project. It sounds like he’s in the fucking money right now.

[Gerard]

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Nash really is missing his other half badly. :(

[slik]

Per Fightful, HHH wants Dexter Lumis back as well

[#1-norm-fan]

I’m hearing with Vince out of the picture, HHH is in talks to bring Nailz back.

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine if Arn &amp; Vader got a long tag team run together. <a href="https://t.co/7vMrxinTvy">pic.twitter.com/7vMrxinTvy</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1556828572014223360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Big Vic]

I’m hearing with Vince out of the picture, HHH is in talks to bring Nailz back.

I read that as "Nazis"

[slik]

From what I've gathered HHH *possibly* has plans to bring back all of the following:



Wyatt
Rowan
Strowman
Gargano
Candiace
Tegan Knox
Nash Carter



From what I've gathered Triple H *possibly* has plans to repackage the following to their former presentations


LA Knight
Pete Dunne
Robert 'Glorious' Roode
Dominik Dijakovic
Elias



From what I've gathered the following are expected to be called up from NXT in the draft in September


Roderick Strong
Toxic Attraction
Legado Del Fantasma
Xyon Quinn
Alba Fire
Indi Hartwell
Nikkita Lyons
Ilja Dragonuv



This is all from various twitter insiders so who knows the accuracy but interesting if true

[drave]

That's a pretty good list of folks to bring back.... mostly.

[#1-norm-fan]

Strong rumor going around now that Triple H is planning to bring back Braden Walker. Huge if true.

[XL]

I read that as "Nazis"

Harris Brothers return confirmed.

[XL]

Strong rumor going around now that Triple H is planning to bring back Braden Walker. Huge if true.

Are the dirtsheets reporting this? You know you can/can’t trust what they say depending on which side of the argument you’re on!

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's a pretty good list of folks to bring back.... mostly.

Yeah, there are some misses there. No way they bring back Nash Carter.

Wyatt and Strowman were played out. Strowman isn’t very good. No one has missed him. Wyatt sold a bit of merch, but with a ridiculous gimmick. This is like bringing back Kane & Big Show if they had been gone and the product didn’t suffer.

I don’t miss guitar-strumming Elias at all. Ezekiel was an improvement.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">30 years ago.<br><br>All of this. <a href="https://t.co/S5XhxOmzIo">pic.twitter.com/S5XhxOmzIo</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1557340484950958080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Sounds like Triple H might be giving some of the wrestlers their full names back as Angel and Humberto have re-added their last names to their Twitter profiles.

[Jordan]

Do you guys think Jeff Jarrett is gonna weasel his way to a Wrestlemania match? Probably against AJ right? It would be cool.

[drave]

He looks better and performs better than some folks who will have a match on that card..... so why not?


Ain't he great?

[Jordan]

He's amazing

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/C4ygn29J2pY" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Have this set to start at a certain part in the video, the story makes a great mental visual :rofl::rofl:


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And of course, the classic story thats always worth a listen.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sounds like Triple H might be giving some of the wrestlers their full names back as Angel and Humberto have re-added their last names to their Twitter profiles.

Some of them would make sense. Angel and Humberto are two that I imagined would get their name back. Matt Riddle is another. In time, when it makes sense for him to break away, Austin Theory is another.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do you guys think Jeff Jarrett is gonna weasel his way to a Wrestlemania match? Probably against AJ right? It would be cool.

I think AJ Styles will be wrestling Kenny Omega. I can see Jeff Jarrett worming his way into the Andre Battle Royal and even winning!

[#1-norm-fan]

Legendary wrestler and legit badass “Judo” Gene LeBell has passed away. Learned about him mostly through Corny’s podcast.

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump is the 2nd WWE Hall of Famer to be raided by the FBI. ������ <a href="https://t.co/aV2KCSjK0o">pic.twitter.com/aV2KCSjK0o</a></p>&mdash; Gerald BRISCO ��█♂️ (@Fgbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fgbrisco/status/1557169541561561089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Vastardikai]

Legendary wrestler and legit badass “Judo” Gene LeBell has passed away. Learned about him mostly through Corny’s podcast.

He was also the referee in the infamous Ali-Inoki match, as well as the winner of what is considered the first televised MMA match against Milo Savage. He was also a stuntman who worked with folks as varied as Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, Ed O'Neill, Steve Martin, and Jackie Chan.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait... Did Gene LeBell train Steve Martin for the karate scene in The Jerk???

[#1-norm-fan]

He was one of the guys he beat up! Crazy.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meng could kick you in the jaw without putting in an effort. <a href="https://t.co/3jUO7YKJol">pic.twitter.com/3jUO7YKJol</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1557550525436026881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’ve said this in the Raw thread a couple of times, but it deserves to be said more generally: How good is Rey Mysterio? I knew the guy was still good, but if you don’t watch for a while and then see him fresh, he still hits you as amazing.

[Danny Electric]

Would be fun to watch Dragunov v Walter again.
DIY v Usos at Wrestlemania.

[Gerard]

https://i.imgur.com/0S9lKzq.jpg

Oh My! :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/QyMNUQy.jpg

A shirt made with a font to resemble cum....you just know Vince was pissing himself laughing at this.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Randleman excelled greatly as a Pro-Wrestler. For the little time he was doing it. 104 seconds of Kevin Randleman being a WRESTLING MACHINE - AJPW/Hustle (2002-2005) <a href="https://t.co/xIrI0gNMQX">pic.twitter.com/xIrI0gNMQX</a></p>&mdash; Dark Puroresu Flowsion (@PuroresuFlow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1557786131558719488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunno who this dude is but he’s got some insane hops

[drave]

He's Kevin Randleman

[Jordan]

Early UFC champion and Pride fighter.

[#1-norm-fan]

“Phil lololol”

[xrodmuc316]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Randleman excelled greatly as a Pro-Wrestler. For the little time he was doing it. 104 seconds of Kevin Randleman being a WRESTLING MACHINE - AJPW/Hustle (2002-2005) <a href="https://t.co/xIrI0gNMQX">pic.twitter.com/xIrI0gNMQX</a></p>&mdash; Dark Puroresu Flowsion (@PuroresuFlow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1557786131558719488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunno who this dude is but he’s got some insane hops

Wait, this dude is an accomplished MMA Fighter and can jump well enough to clear guardrails? Sounds like he wouldn't be a very good pro wrestler to me...

[#1-norm-fan]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/c9/2d/68c92d9fbd13497cb2473f4f44e9bb22.gif

[Stu Hart]

The greatest insult in the history of wrestling"

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[#1-norm-fan]

According to sources, we’re in for a BIG return tonight as Triple H has brought back Essa Rios. Not sure how reliable these sources are but word is, very!

[Lock Jaw]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/c9/2d/68c92d9fbd13497cb2473f4f44e9bb22.gif

GOTCHA

[Sepholio]

According to sources, we’re in for a BIG return tonight as Triple H has brought back Essa Rios. Not sure how reliable these sources are but word is, very!

WOOOO ESSA RIOS BAYBAY. I heard they may bring back Taka Michinoku to feud with him over a soon to be reintroduced light heavyweight title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s time to bring back Axelmania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What’s the finish for Clash at the Castle? I cannot see them simply having Drew lose in the UK. But it doesn’t seem right to take the belts off Roman. I’ve seen it suggested that Theory enters the match, cashes in, makes it a Triple Threat and Drew pins Theory to win the belts, which maybe becomes him winning one belt.

I dunno. I’m still thinking they might just have Drew win cleanly, have him reign for a couple of months and then go back to Reigns around Rumble time for whatever their plans are.

[Lock Jaw]

Reigns wins.

That's the finish.

[xrodmuc316]

The thing he has used to prop his career up, the "pipebomb", was fully approved by Vince McMahon and ghost written by Ed Koskey.

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/ex-wwe-writer-brian-gewirtz-reveals-how-much-of-cm-punks-pipebomb-promo-was-actually-scripted-vince-mcmahons-reaction

3pF0vbobFBM

Turns out Phil didn't "FEDBAD" from the heart for all the Marks, he did it to get a raise and promotion. How ya feeling about your little MMA Failure dork bud now, hmmmmm?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Of course it was approved. Interesting to learn that Punk didn’t write it. Was definitely a fun promo at the time, but it was just a promo. I used to try and will Punk across the mattering line, but as talented as he is, the special around him is constructed by internet fans who rally against whatever is established at the time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Reigns wins.

That's the finish.

Maybe. They have set up Drew vs. Kross as a program after that.

[Destor]

Least post a time stamp..

[weather vane]

Least post a time stamp..

Haha no shit.

[xrodmuc316]

Least post a time stamp..
Haha no shit.

Don't worry guys, I am sure there will be a staunch CM Phil defender who will watch the full video and decipher the inflection and tone to try to spin it in a way to make Phil look good. Just wait for that play by play recap :rofl:

[#1-norm-fan]

Time stamp might be a good idea just in case...

[XL]

Because I am the only truly impartial contributor here (and #2 Christian fan) I did the work. Talk on Punk starts at 39:57.

A) of course it was approved. The guy sat there for 5 minutes before the mic was cut
B) he says that Punk “worked with Ed Koskey” on it but that it came from Punk’s heart and brain. Not at all the same as having it ghost-written.
C) there was “real life feeling and realness” in the promo
D) Gerwitz says he’s sure there was stuff in there that was improvised on the spot

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Basically nothing at all was revealed about the pipe bomb unless you’re a complete mark fuckwad like Noid or cumdorx.

[xrodmuc316]

Because I am the only truly impartial contributor here (and #2 Christian fan) I did the work. Talk on Punk starts at 39:57.

A) of course it was approved. The guy sat there for 5 minutes before the mic was cut
B) he says that Punk “worked with Ed Koskey” on it but that it came from Punk’s heart and brain. Not at all the same as having it ghost-written.
C) there was “real life feeling and realness” in the promo
D) Gerwitz says he’s sure there was stuff in there that was improvised on the spot

"We had a version of it in front of us"
"We knew going in what it was going to be"

A.K.A. NOT a shoot, A.K.A. lying to everybody for 11 years, A.K.A. CM Fraud.

AEW is STILL to this day living off a kayfabe WWE storyline.

FEDBAD, held Punk back, no creative freedom, yet Punk has the same music, gear, logo, and storyline WWE "made" him do when they were stifling him 11 years ago???

Also just an FYI, a ghostwriter is hired to write literary or journalistic works, speeches, or other texts that are officially credited to another person as the author.

Koskey sat with Punk ahead of time, prepared an outline of the script, disseminated copies, got it approved, and likely timed it out with Vince and Dunn for when to do camera cuts for Cena or the fans reactions.

Taking Punk's statements and views and constructing them into the pipebomb, that is Ghostwritting.

[xrodmuc316]

Basically nothing at all was revealed about the pipe bomb unless you’re a complete mark fuckwad like Noid or cumdorx.

Yeah nothing at all, other than it was not a shoot, so pretending it is 11 years later because it is the only character Punk can present, because otherwise he is just an old looking 170 pound guy who got his ass beat twice in UFC and has zero credibility, but yeah, nothing at all, but that :rofl:

[Lock Jaw]

Sounds like you are pretty upset to find out that rassling is fake and everything is pre-planned and pre-approved. Thoughts and prayers.

[Lock Jaw]

I used to try and will Punk across the mattering line, but as talented as he is, the special around him is constructed by internet fans who rally against whatever is established at the time.

I genuinely enjoyed Punk back then and still look fondly back on it... but yeah, there was that element of being presented as "the alternative" that the internet fans latched onto and boosted him up. Kind of "apropos" that he ended up in AEW which is an entire company much of whose success is propagated by the same internet fans buying into "the alternative" and boosting it up.

[xrodmuc316]

Sounds like you are pretty upset to find out that rassling is fake and everything is pre-planned and pre-approved. Thoughts and prayers.

Actually the opposite, I am happy that there is further proof that Phil is a fraud :rofl:

[Fignuts]

CM Punk is one of the few left in this business that pay close attention to details and actually trys to ensure that everything he does makes sense.

His credibility obviously took a hit with the MMA stuff, but theres too few people like him for me to just write him off for that.

[xrodmuc316]

CM Punk is one of the few left in this business that pay close attention to details and actually trys to ensure that everything he does makes sense.

His credibility obviously took a hit with the MMA stuff, but theres too few people like him for me to just write him off for that.

Come on Fig.

What part of him attempting and botching moves he could not do 10 years ago makes sense? What makes sense about a fragile old man with zero athletic ability trying a 3 foot stage dive and "shattering" his foot?

The only sensible thing Phil has done is facing a guy who is so bad at throwing strikes that it gives him a better chance of not getting injured again.

[#1-norm-fan]

FedBad PhilGood Dubbalos abound on this page. Oof!

[Fignuts]

What does any of that have to do with how he wrestles and puts together his matches?

[xrodmuc316]

What does any of that have to do with how he wrestles and puts together his matches?

Botches, you are defending him botching moves like a green as goose shit rookie.

He wrestles like a 170 pound broken down old man, but because he is doing it in the Dub, we are supposed to pretend it is good, why?

How he puts together matches lol, he puts matches together that have him, a broken down bum who is the worst UFC fighter of all time, puts together matches that he actually fucking wins, and that makes sense?!?!?

That in fact is the most nonsensical thing in all professional wrestling. So no, that means he makes no sense. He can beat up nobody in reality, yet he can single handedly beat up 5 JAS guys at once??? For fuck's sake :rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I genuinely enjoyed Punk back then and still look fondly back on it... but yeah, there was that element of being presented as "the alternative" that the internet fans latched onto and boosted him up. Kind of "apropos" that he ended up in AEW which is an entire company much of whose success is propagated by the same internet fans buying into "the alternative" and boosting it up.

He was a no-brainer they should have had from the start, but their approach pushed him towards WWE at first.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk’s not as athletic in the ring as he tries to be, hence the botches, but he is a good wrestler. He just doesn’t make you care as much as he thinks he does. And MMA didn’t help any aura he tries to project.

[Lock Jaw]

He was a no-brainer they should have had from the start, but their approach pushed him towards WWE at first.

Feel like everyone has blocked it from their minds that he tried going back to WWE first but that they wouldn't give him the money he wanted.

[Lock Jaw]

Feel like if Ttiple H was in charge back then he would have definitely forked over the money and we would have had Punk back in WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H may have been more likely to smooth over the differences and ease tensions with Punk. But I think the issue with Punk is that he wants main event money and a main event spot that he very publicly never appreciated. I don’t know of a 5-time World Champion that has complained so much about a company giving him so little. Are you going to push that guy — who has never really drawn money and flopped in the UFC — ahead of cheaper, harder working, higher grossing talent with better attitudes?

It would take some concession on Punk’s part. Would he have been willing to come in, start at a certain position for a certain amount of money with growth over the later years of his contract? Maybe.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah nothing at all, other than it was not a shoot, so pretending it is 11 years later because it is the only character Punk can present, because otherwise he is just an old looking 170 pound guy who got his ass beat twice in UFC and has zero credibility, but yeah, nothing at all, but that :rofl:

Who actually thought it was an actual shoot other than mark fuckwads like you?

[xrodmuc316]

Feel like everyone has blocked it from their minds that he tried going back to WWE first but that they wouldn't give him the money he wanted.

Yet another reason he should not be celebrated. He publicly denigrated AEW for 2 and a half years while he was trying to get back into WWE.

He tried to go back to WWE, they said no. He tried to get in by getting that hosting gig with Fox, WWE said no again. Fox offered to pay his WWE contract with the only condition being that Punk be on Smackdown and not Raw, WWE said no yet again.

Then suddenly, AEW is "pro wrestling" and Punk is back! And guess what is back on the menu... FEDBAD! FEDBADing is his rallying cry, and the Cultist just eat it up.

Celebrate a guy who failed at everything he tried, MMA, Acting, Comic Books, Reality TV, and even including getting WWE to take him back. Celebrate a guy who didn't want anything to do with the Dub and talked all that shit. Celebrate a guy who is only there because he realized he can milk a bunch of money from a mark billionaire's son and get a big push despite it all.

Everything he says is bullshit, everything about him as a tough guy is bullshit, and luckily there is a niche audience that will see all that bullshit and lap it up as eagerly as Tiny Khan's nose does when presented cocaine.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There’s definitely a major disconnect between what live AEW audiences are feeling and what the general audience member does. AEW fans are losing their minds for Punk in the building and TV viewers are like “Really? This guy?”

One thing you have to admit about the guy is that he’s not afraid of failure.

[xrodmuc316]

Who actually thought it was an actual shoot other than mark fuckwads like you?

What makes you think I thought it was real? Seriously, logically speaking, why would you think the person who is happy to bury the fraud as often as possible would be the one to believe? Where is your sense?

I am in fact gloating that there is an accounting on record of somebody in the know to show the "mark fuckwads" that thought it was real, that they have been praising the FED for a FEDBAD promo all these years.

This is not even surprising though, I did say that "I am sure there will be a staunch CM Phil defender", and while you took it in a bit of a different direction than I expected, you still jumped at the chance to defend a guy who himself never learned how to defend, despite years of training in MMA.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’d say that no one thought the pipe-bomb was a shoot, but there are people who thought Adam Cole/Pat McAfee was a shoot.

[Lock Jaw]

To be fair, there are still people out there who believe all of wrestling is a shoot

[Destor]

CM Punk is one of the few left in this business that pay close attention to details and actually trys to ensure that everything he does makes sense.

His credibility obviously took a hit with the MMA stuff, but theres too few people like him for me to just write him off for that.
He'd make a great writer/booker

[#1-norm-fan]

no one thought the pipe-bomb was a shoot.

Edited it down to represent what Noid would say if he didn’t feel obligated to support xrod and pretend he’s smart.

[Destor]

Many people think, not thought, the pipe bomb was and is a shoot. Pretty sure we could easily dig up the weekly thread and reread those posts if we need some clarity

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, it’s easy to put yourself in the shoes of someone who knows better, but there are plenty of people who see a slightly different presentation of something and think “that must be real.” People are not as hard to work as those who pretend kayfabe being dead means you don’t put any effort in think.

I mentioned Adam Cole/Pat McAfee. A lot of people thought Cole’s blow-up on McAfee’s podcast was legit.

Prevailing wisdom always suggested that Punk got approval for all the things he was going to say, but there are people who think he totally went off the cuff. There are people who still wonder what he was going to say about bullying like that wasn’t where the promo was scripted to be cut off.

I was intrigued by the idea of Ed Koskey coming up with the ideas, taking them to Punk, even scripting them out. Turns out he was just producing it like every segment. I don’t know of Punk to misrepresent that, but it would come as a surprise to quite a lot of people, even in the wrestling sphere. But I wouldn’t call it “fraud.” It was just a promo that stood out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m trying to imagine what a CM Punk return would be like in a post-Vince world. Let’s say he gets sideways with TK because he doesn’t want to do a garbage style match with Moxley. Whatever. Where would he plug in?

I’m actually way more interested in him working NXT guys than most people on the main roster. Punk stealing The Diamond Mine from Roderick Strong could be a cute little angle, with Wade Barrett on commentary mentioning he did that to him too. Punk as NXT Champion. The gimmick would be the falsely gracious champion “grooming” the future. Eventually he brings in FTR to replace The Creeds. In 2024, if they can’t get him before then, MJF comes in as the necessary evil to dethrone Punk.