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#BROKEN Hasney
03-28-2018, 12:50 PM
Someone suggested a Luke's license on the line match where people have to stop others from doing the banned moves.

Big Vic
03-28-2018, 01:03 PM
lol at #6

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Wonder if Samoa Joe is going to re-debut after Mania.... Or maybe he will be Brauns Partner?

Anybody Thrilla
03-28-2018, 03:03 PM
Rey needs to face Ospeay. Just so long as he does that then he can come home and face Ricochet and the rest of the awesome Cruiser roster.

Rey v. Prince Puma already happened on Lucha Underground. It was dope.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2018, 04:39 PM
Rey v. Prince Puma already happened on Lucha Underground. It was dope.

I know this isn't a popular opinion but I watched that match and I thought Rey looked sloppy. I may need to rewatch it with fresher eyes.

Fignuts
03-28-2018, 05:14 PM
Could be wrong but I don't think that was too long after his WWE departure, and well before he got back in shape.

Emperor Smeat
03-28-2018, 05:14 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2018, 05:18 PM
Could be wrong but I don't think that was too long after his WWE departure, and well before he got back in shape.

He looked chunky and was wearing a top so probably

XL
03-28-2018, 05:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ht" dir="ltr">LMAOOOOOOO <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE_Ref123?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE_Ref123</a> <a href="https://t.co/5WycX2Ir4U">pic.twitter.com/5WycX2Ir4U</a></p>&mdash; BIll kauFF (@BillKauff) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillKauff/status/978835595844837376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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“Killing the business”

Emperor Smeat
03-28-2018, 06:37 PM
Apparently last year's Joey Janela Spring Break event was supposed to have more surprise guests but they bailed out for various reasons.

We had a couple of surprises booked and none of them actually showed up, besides Virgil of course," said Janela. "Gillberg got drunk with his old tag team partner Barry Hardy. Him and Barry Hardy decided to get pretty trashed and not come to the show. There were a few others that we had booked, too. We had Akeem (One Man Gang) booked too. We even bought him a dashiki and the hat. Something happened where he said he had to deal with some insurance company and couldn't make it. I don't know. This year we have surprises and they'll be there"
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/exclusive-joey-janela-says-gillberg-got-drunk-and-no-showed-spring-break-talks-negotiating-dan

slik
03-28-2018, 07:47 PM
What an interesting trophy design

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Bad News Gertner
03-28-2018, 08:50 PM
Watching ECW Living Dangerously 1999. Sid is BY FAR the most over guy there.

Jordan
03-28-2018, 09:14 PM
Sid came off really cool in ECW.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2018, 09:14 PM
Watching ECW Living Dangerously 1999. Sid is BY FAR the most over guy there.

He was just ripping off 911's gimmick there.

Bad News Gertner
03-28-2018, 09:15 PM
And doing it 10x better

Jordan
03-28-2018, 09:33 PM
I really don't like Mauro. He was unbearable on this weeks NXT.

Fignuts
03-28-2018, 09:34 PM
Thought Josh Barnett was really good at strong style evolved.

Jordan
03-28-2018, 10:04 PM
I did too.

Emperor Smeat
03-28-2018, 10:34 PM
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Tom Guycott
03-28-2018, 11:35 PM
I also find it funny that ROH is major league now alongside WWE and NJPW in that commissions eyes, but not Impact.

Is it really that funny, though? Or even surprising?

Tom Guycott
03-28-2018, 11:43 PM
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Chuckleworthy, but kinda makes me sad, as there was a point in time where THIS fucking guy would have been pretty over as a manager-type-character after the whole Bryan/Kane thing and been able to help someone down the card get elevated (like Axel). However, if WWE did keep him around, they likely would have just overused him with Team Hell No! and ruined the entire thing. Still, it is sometimes fun to imagine what could have been.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2018, 12:54 AM
Thought Josh Barnett was really good at strong style evolved.

He is very knowledgable but he's very "flat" and J.R. does not pair well with him.

Fignuts
03-29-2018, 12:59 AM
I think he and Don Callis would do well together. Kevin Kelly gets on my nerves at times, but Callis is mostly enjoyable.

Emperor Smeat
03-29-2018, 01:58 AM
The Callis-Kelly pairing has been really good for NJPW considering some of the other pairings NJPW tried and them continually improving as a team.

Ross was a lot better during this year's US show than last year but think at this point, he'd be better off as just a color commentator or maybe as a third guy for live events. NJPW's style is a bit too hectic for him and it showed badly in the past and at times with this year's US show.

DAMN iNATOR
03-29-2018, 02:26 AM
Congrats Miz and Maryse!:

https://www.google.com/amp/popculture.com/celebrity-moms/2018/03/28/maryse-the-miz-baby-born-monroe-sky/

GD
03-29-2018, 06:22 AM
What an interesting trophy design

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Big Vic
03-29-2018, 06:43 AM
I thought it looked like a thong at first but yeah...

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2018, 06:45 AM
The Callis-Kelly pairing has been really good for NJPW considering some of the other pairings NJPW tried and them continually improving as a team.

Ross was a lot better during this year's US show than last year but think at this point, he'd be better off as just a color commentator or maybe as a third guy for live events. NJPW's style is a bit too hectic for him and it showed badly in the past and at times with this year's US show.

I do find it kind of weird that Ross struggles since he was awesome calling Dunne vs Bate II. But I guess he only had to call the one match that night, and at his age it'd be harder to keep up throughout at 4 hour show.

Big Vic
03-29-2018, 07:38 AM
Last time Bo and Axel won a match was the preshow of SummerSlam.

Jordan
03-29-2018, 07:50 AM
JR is too old to evolve, the names and faces are too hard for him.

Gerard
03-29-2018, 09:31 AM
Congrats Miz and Maryse!:

https://www.google.com/amp/popculture.com/celebrity-moms/2018/03/28/maryse-the-miz-baby-born-monroe-sky/

Monroe Sky......:wtf:, yup another "celebrity" baby with a name that seems to have been concocted on a cocaine binge.

Lock Jaw
03-29-2018, 01:23 PM
Monroe is a fairly normal name

Anybody Thrilla
03-29-2018, 02:26 PM
There's nothing wrong with Monroe, you numbskull. Probably named after Marilyn.

Anybody Thrilla
03-29-2018, 02:29 PM
Edge and Christian's most recent podcast has an "anatomy of a match" with Bret Hart and Steve Austin where they essentially discuss their Wrestlemania 13 match spot for spot with concepts and intent of every step. I'm about to listen, so I can't vouch just yet, but I'm willing to bet it's pretty cool.

Gerard
03-29-2018, 03:55 PM
Monroe is a fairly normal name

As a surname possibly, not heard it as a first name before

There's nothing wrong with Monroe, you numbskull. Probably named after Marilyn.

Named after a junkie? I rest my case. :lol:

XL
03-29-2018, 04:07 PM
I really don't like Mauro. He was unbearable on this weeks NXT.

I normally find it very hard to criticise NXT but the opening this week had me :roll:

They really should have done the Gargano-Ciampa announcement in front of the live crowd (unless they recorded it later because they weren’t sure if Ciampa was cleared).

And then the first words from the broadcast team were “MAMA MIA!!”

Cool King
03-29-2018, 04:10 PM
I'm sure every single name has a junkie associated to it somewhere in the world.

Emperor Smeat
03-29-2018, 04:11 PM
https://i.imgur.com/puHvtOm.gif

Gerard
03-29-2018, 04:12 PM
I'm sure every single name has a junkie associated to it somewhere in the world.

Quite possibly but not as high profile as she was. Total waste :(

Emperor Smeat
03-29-2018, 06:36 PM
Rumor going around the net hints the state of Louisiana is going to bump their sales tax during Wrestlemania week from the usual 5% to 10% and only wrestling promotions being targeted.

It would only affect wrestling merch sold during the week but its high enough that some wrestlers are already being told to not bother bring merch to sell during the week.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-29-2018, 07:00 PM
Clothes are taxed in LA?

Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2018, 08:18 PM
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I think it's really sad people find shit like that genuinely funny. Like, go watch some British comedy or something.

Danny Electric
03-29-2018, 08:27 PM
I normally find it very hard to criticise NXT but the opening this week had me :roll:

They really should have done the Gargano-Ciampa announcement in front of the live crowd (unless they recorded it later because they weren’t sure if Ciampa was cleared).

And then the first words from the broadcast team were “MAMA MIA!!”

From reading the taping spoilers this was definitely recorded later.

Juan
03-30-2018, 12:27 AM
I think it's really sad people find shit like that genuinely funny. Like, go watch some British comedy or something.

Jesus. Take a chill pill, Mr. Grinch.

Mr. Nerfect
03-30-2018, 03:33 AM
Wrestling fans are the worst.

Anybody Thrilla
03-30-2018, 03:39 AM
As a surname possibly, not heard it as a first name before



Named after a junkie? I rest my case. :lol:

What should the kid's name have been, Oh Pristine One?

Fuck outta here with that.

Anybody Thrilla
03-30-2018, 03:40 AM
Wrestling fans are the worst.

Especially the jaded ones, ya know?

Anybody Thrilla
03-30-2018, 03:44 AM
The Canadian Destroyer doesn't make a ton of sense, the more I look at it.

Mr. Nerfect
03-30-2018, 04:06 AM
Especially the jaded ones, ya know?

No, the worst are the geeks that make the nerds look bad.

Mr. Nerfect
03-30-2018, 04:08 AM
The Canadian Destroyer doesn't make a ton of sense, the more I look at it.

Wrestling's fake though, so why would you care?

Anybody Thrilla
03-30-2018, 04:42 AM
I like things to make sense, sure. Sometimes, as an optimist, I have to convince myself how something COULD make sense, whether that's the intention or not. That particular move makes even that difficult. Regardless, I'm definitely enjoying myself overall.

Mr. Nerfect
03-30-2018, 04:51 AM
Haha, I'm just razzing you. I agree, I'm just adopting the arguments I often see.

Mr. Nerfect
03-30-2018, 05:23 AM
I was just thinking that I'd much prefer Rusev to win the Universal Title from Brock Lesnar than Roman Reigns. Have Rusev win The Greatest Royal Rumble and use the title shot to switch brands and challenge for the belt at Money in the Bank in Chicago. Cool the jets with Reigns a little. Rusev beats Brock and becomes the new god of wrestling.

Mr. Nerfect
03-30-2018, 05:25 AM
Brock's final match at SummerSlam (providing he doesn't re-sign) is him putting over AJ Styles.

Jordan
03-30-2018, 07:54 AM
Edge and Christian's most recent podcast has an "anatomy of a match" with Bret Hart and Steve Austin where they essentially discuss their Wrestlemania 13 match spot for spot with concepts and intent of every step. I'm about to listen, so I can't vouch just yet, but I'm willing to bet it's pretty cool.

I liked it. I also appreciate how Austin still give Bret the same respect he probably gave him in 96/97. He doesn't act like a bigger deal, more insightful, they all just like to listen to Bret, because even though he rambles, he speaks a lot of truth. It may be truth through his warped perspective but it' truth.

Bad News Gertner
03-30-2018, 08:57 AM
Dr.D David Schultz was on Cornette's podcast this week. Awesome interview. Definitely picking up his book.

Jordan
03-30-2018, 08:59 AM
I listened to him on Steve Austin's pod cast, they were great. He was the first Texas Rattlesnake for WWE (or Tennessee Water Moccasin).

Gerard
03-30-2018, 01:30 PM
What should the kid's name have been, Oh Pristine One?



Blondie McDonkey Teeth. Takes an element from her mother and her old man, just perfect.:yes:

Savio
03-30-2018, 04:24 PM
As a surname possibly, not heard it as a first name before

I guess you never heard of "Monroe Yoder"

Gerard
03-30-2018, 04:38 PM
I guess you never heard of "Monroe Yoder"

Nope.

XL
03-30-2018, 05:38 PM
From reading the taping spoilers this was definitely recorded later.

Why’re you reading spoilers, you big wanker?

Droford
03-30-2018, 06:07 PM
I'm telling everyone Hot Topic is behind the new bullet club logo if its not a April fools joke.

Danny Electric
03-30-2018, 07:11 PM
Why’re you reading spoilers, you big wanker?

Like a kid at christmas

Emperor Smeat
03-30-2018, 07:48 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
03-31-2018, 02:00 AM
Was just watching some Smoky Mountain Wrestling, and Jim Cornette is cutting this great promo about an upcoming Rage in a Cage Match. It's very similar to War Games -- two teams of ten and you can only win by submission or handcuffing each member of the opposing team to the cage. But there's a nice little diversion in that the order of entry is designated by whomever has the advantage at the 5-minute mark. So, ideally, you'd have your babyface kick ass for 4 minutes, only for the heel to cheat and gain control just at that moment to begin a 2-on-1 beat-down.

I'd never heard of that stipulation before, and I thought it was quite nifty. They don't do War Games anymore, but if they did, something like that instead of a coin toss is pretty cool.

Bad News Gertner
03-31-2018, 02:06 AM
I'm pretty sure he got that from Continental.

Mr. Nerfect
03-31-2018, 02:10 AM
That wouldn't surprise me. Cornette isn't the most innovative booker in history, and prefers to take stuff that works and adapt it.

Jordan
03-31-2018, 08:19 AM
I don't like the variable of the coin flip being determined on the fly like that. Even if it's a kayfabe fly. Who's calling the shot as to who has the advantage? And what constitutes as an advantage? What if they guys are just trading shots like Ishii and Suzuki? You can't even offer that option and that's trouble because now are you limiting the results in a very fake shitty way.

Like this would work for me during the John Laurinaitis era. He could've fucked over the faces and had them totally outnumbered for like 2 or 3 rounds until the babyface captain grabs him and hold's him over the stage to make him call for him to enter next. And then shove him off through some tables, go in and help even the score. It's Roman Reigns btw...

Evil Vito
03-31-2018, 12:23 PM
The coin toss is something that always took me out of War Games matches a bit. I mean, the heels HAD to win the coin toss. There's literally no way a match of that structure could work if the faces had the advantage every 5 minutes. But even in an environment where you have to suspend your disbelief, it seemed kinda dumb that the heels won the 50/50 coin toss 100% of the time.

Jordan
03-31-2018, 12:32 PM
That's true, and that plot hole is a great example of the difference in WWE and WCW/southern booking. Not to say WWE can't be accused of plot holes in the past, the coin flip is totally a southern thing. I prefer not to have to suspend my disbelief beyond the parameters already set out when sitting down to watch wrestling. For me the advantage should be decided in a match before the show between the captains or before the match. Or if they had two strong looking guys maybe an arm wrestling match. Or a tug of war between teams.

Emperor Smeat
03-31-2018, 06:21 PM
Seems WWE really is committed to Hogan staying banned at least for a while longer.

Denied Hillbilly Jim's request for Hogan to induct him and instead it will be Jimmy Hart doing the honors next week.

DAMN iNATOR
03-31-2018, 07:14 PM
Seems WWE really is committed to Hogan staying banned at least for a while longer.

Denied Hillbilly Jim's request for Hogan to induct him and instead it will be Jimmy Hart doing the honors next week.

I wouldn't mind him coming back as SDL's next GM. Stupid internet has made it where if you don't walk on water your whole life and they find out about one mistake, you're instantly a piece of garbage and nobody lets them live it down ever.

People really need to learn to forgive and forget again.

mike adamle
03-31-2018, 08:04 PM
I wouldn't mind him coming back as SDL's next GM. Stupid internet has made it where if you don't walk on water your whole life and they find out about one mistake, you're instantly a piece of garbage and nobody lets them live it down ever.

People really need to learn to forgive and forget again.

You're just sympathetic because you say racist shit all the time too and act like it's no big deal...

Shadrick
03-31-2018, 08:10 PM
I wouldn't mind him coming back as SDL's next GM. Stupid internet has made it where if you don't walk on water your whole life and they find out about one mistake, you're instantly a piece of garbage and nobody lets them live it down ever.

People really need to learn to forgive and forget again.

People make mistakes, absolutely. I'm black and personally wouldn't mind him back, although honestly, my perception of him changed after that, and I know a lot of other people, not just black people, who feel the same.

In my own experiences, I've dealt with white people, people I've respected and grown up with, who I shared experiences with, who I thought were cool, understanding, and not hateful, and then found out what they truly thought of my race, my people, me, etc. I've mistakenly heard what they thought was a private conversation, and heard the same words from them that Hogan said. Did I forgive them? Absolutely. Did I fuck with them after that? Nah. My perception of them had changed. I was more hurt than anything. But forget? No. This is not me playing "oh woe is me" its just me stating a fact: If you are not black you do not know what that feels like to hear that word come out of a white persons mouth.

Everyone knew Hogan wasn't a saint before that, so no one was asking him to walk on water....but I think it's really, really, reaaaaaaallly easy to tell OTHER people how they should feel and that they should "forgive and forget" when you're not the one that was offended or targeted by what he said.

Emperor Smeat
03-31-2018, 08:29 PM
Assuming the stuff about WWE wanting to use the Hogan controversy simply to get sympathy for Hogan in the end, WWE is a lot better off from a PR perspective to just keep him banished.

WWE runs the big risk of it not coming off as sincere and making things a lot worse for them afterwards.

SlickyTrickyDamon
04-01-2018, 12:45 AM
Seems WWE really is committed to Hogan staying banned at least for a while longer.

Denied Hillbilly Jim's request for Hogan to induct him and instead it will be Jimmy Hart doing the honors next week.

That's probably the next best to Hogan.

slik
04-01-2018, 01:00 AM
WWE uploaded the entire WM28 Taker vs HHH match w/o commentary:

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slik
04-01-2018, 01:46 AM
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Jordan
04-01-2018, 05:31 AM
Do those idiots even know what the fuck they are selling. How many times did they say WM 6.

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 08:23 AM
Just finished the month of April in my quest to watch all the WWF 1984 television as well as any house shows that I have in my collection. The Iron Shiek vs Sgt Slaughter feud is heating up and the angle with Cyndi Lauper is just starting. 1984 was such a fun year.

Jordan
04-01-2018, 08:37 AM
Let me know if you come across some stand out matches.

Jordan
04-01-2018, 08:40 AM
I've been going through the nostalgia time machine that is WWF Coliseum Video releases, at least what they have on the network right now which is a lot of them. They'll need to upload the Hulkamania Volumes soon, I hope.

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 09:11 AM
Let me know if you come across some stand out matches.

FYI, this is all stuff I have saved on my external hard drive, not the Network.

You'll find those on the House Shows. The T.V matches usually run 2-5 minutes.

Pretty much anything Slaughter vs Shiek is a much watch.

Adonis and Murdoch just debuted on the May 5th 84 episode that I'm watching. They are my favourite tag team of the 80's.

Jordan
04-01-2018, 09:21 AM
I see. Where did you get your collection? Are you watching digital, tape or disk?

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 09:40 AM
I have an external hard drive that I plug into my blue ray.

Torrents, stuff I downloaded from YouTube, stuff sent to me.

Check out Rassel Reel's channel on youtube for most of the 1984 t.v

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 09:53 AM
I collect shows from 1978-86, but especially stuff from 1984 and any Philly Spectrum Shows from late 1980-late 1982 with Kal Rudman and Dick Graham on commentary .

I have all the t.v from 84, plus all the monthly MSG House shows, most of the Spectrum shows, a few shows from the Cap Centre and a few random house shows from the Kiel Auditorium, the Meadowlands and even a show from Puerto Rico

James Steele
04-01-2018, 12:40 PM
WWE uploaded the entire WM28 Taker vs HHH match w/o commentary:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/P0QWqh9qqrg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That may be my favorite WrestleMania match of all time.

Savio
04-01-2018, 01:10 PM
I liked their match from the year prior better.

Jordan
04-01-2018, 01:53 PM
I collect shows from 1978-86, but especially stuff from 1984 and any Philly Spectrum Shows from late 1980-late 1982 with Kal Rudman and Dick Graham on commentary .

I have all the t.v from 84, plus all the monthly MSG House shows, most of the Spectrum shows, a few shows from the Cap Centre and a few random house shows from the Kiel Auditorium, the Meadowlands and even a show from Puerto Rico

Why do you like this period so much?

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 02:35 PM
In 84 you have early Hogan title reign before he became obnoxious, Sheik vs Slaughter feud, Valentine vs Tito which is the greatest IC feud of all time, Snuka vs Piper feud, the whole Cyndi Lauper Angle, Adonis and Murdoch, plus it's interesting to watch the evolution of the company at the start of 84. It's my favourite year.

I look for Dick and Kal stuff because they are fucking hilarious

I got bored with current wrestling so I decided to go back and see how we got to this point. I find a lot of the stuff pre Backlund title win to be pretty dull for the most part, so I use 78 as my start point. There's a lot of cool stuff to go through. I haven't gone back to current wrestling since. Been about 3 years now. Most of my stuff is original footage with original commercials lol

owenbrown
04-01-2018, 07:07 PM
wasn't that the period where Valentine supposedly smashed the IC title belt across a steel cage and that's when they had the new one made or was that later?

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 07:14 PM
Yup, that happened in 1985.

You'll never guess what happened to the broken belt....Tito Santana threw it in the garbage! Can you imagine how much that would be worth!

A.J.K
04-01-2018, 07:23 PM
Wasn't there a rumor about that same belt that became the Hardcore title?

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 07:28 PM
Yeah but I'm pretty sure the original Hardcore Title was made by a fan?

owenbrown
04-01-2018, 07:32 PM
no nevermind, I looked it up it was in 1985

A.J.K
04-01-2018, 07:42 PM
Yeah but I'm pretty sure the original Hardcore Title was made by a fan?

Either that or it was the Winged eagle belt that was smashed by a hammer.

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 07:47 PM
It was a battered old WWF title

Evil Vito
04-01-2018, 07:57 PM
WWE uploaded the entire WM28 Taker vs HHH match w/o commentary:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/P0QWqh9qqrg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Honestly would be fine watching every PPV without commentary.

Emperor Smeat
04-01-2018, 08:40 PM
https://i.giphy.com/media/229PiK8H0MYPcggVYq/giphy.gif

owenbrown
04-01-2018, 09:21 PM
ogRSaIyyWG4

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 09:28 PM
That was the moment Backlund jumped the shark. He came off as such a pansy.

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 09:29 PM
Lol Jose Luis Rivera (Conquistador Uno) just posted a video on his facebook that I sent him.

Emperor Smeat
04-01-2018, 09:58 PM
Based on ticket sales so far, seems the most popular non-WWE/NXT show for Mania week is Joey Janela's Spring Break 2.

Last set of numbers had it ahead of PROGRESS' Friday event for the top spot by 85 tickets. Both sold over 1k tickets so far and then a huge drop off for 3rd place on the list.

Tom Guycott
04-01-2018, 10:49 PM
https://i.giphy.com/media/229PiK8H0MYPcggVYq/giphy.gif

Monty Brown sure packed on the pounds...

Tom Guycott
04-01-2018, 10:55 PM
In 84 you have early Hogan title reign before he became obnoxious, Sheik vs Slaughter feud, Valentine vs Tito which is the greatest IC feud of all time, Snuka vs Piper feud, the whole Cyndi Lauper Angle, Adonis and Murdoch, plus it's interesting to watch the evolution of the company at the start of 84. It's my favourite year.

I look for Dick and Kal stuff because they are fucking hilarious

I got bored with current wrestling so I decided to go back and see how we got to this point. I find a lot of the stuff pre Backlund title win to be pretty dull for the most part, so I use 78 as my start point. There's a lot of cool stuff to go through. I haven't gone back to current wrestling since. Been about 3 years now. Most of my stuff is original footage with original commercials lol

Everything you just mentioned is some of my earliest memories of wrestling period, outside of my brother putting me on to NWA stuff (mainly Flair/ Horsemen) a bit later, and my mom being a huge fan of Dusty.

wwe2222
04-01-2018, 10:57 PM
Either that or it was the Winged eagle belt that was smashed by a hammer.

I thought it was the one Mr Perfect smashed

Droford
04-01-2018, 10:57 PM
Based on ticket sales so far, seems the most popular non-WWE/NXT show for Mania week is Joey Janela's Spring Break 2.

Last set of numbers had it ahead of PROGRESS' Friday event for the top spot by 85 tickets. Both sold over 1k tickets so far and then a huge drop off for 3rd place on the list.

ROH SOH sold over 6000 ..

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2018, 10:59 PM
Everything you just mentioned is some of my earliest memories of wrestling period, outside of my brother putting me on to NWA stuff (mainly Flair/ Horsemen) a bit later, and my mom being a huge fan of Dusty.

Check put Rassel Reel's youtube channel. He has most of the 1984 t.v

Emperor Smeat
04-01-2018, 11:29 PM
ROH SOH sold over 6000 ..

For some reason it wasn't on the list I saw for ticket sales. Guess whoever compiled the list excluded it because of them and WWE having special status for Mania week.

Just found it really interesting Janela managed to generate one of the hottest shows for the week.

owenbrown
04-02-2018, 12:24 AM
Check put Rassel Reel's youtube channel. He has most of the 1984 t.v

CWA Memphis wrestling on the channel :D

#1-norm-fan
04-02-2018, 01:51 AM
As horrible as WWE's booking toward Asuka vs Charlotte has been, Charlotte ending the streak COULD be good for the long term. Especially if they were to actually keep Charlotte strong and keep Asuka looking like the only one who can beat her is Charlotte. Just a random thought I had and decided to share with TPWW.

Big Vic
04-02-2018, 08:40 AM
I think they are heading towards Asuka vs Ronda next year.

Can't wait for those promos.

Jordan
04-02-2018, 10:05 AM
I think the big picture booking for the womens divison is going to look like this...


WM - Auska wins, Ronda Wins, Charlotte loses

Charlotte Flair is shook to Raw.

Summerslam - Ronda/Stephanie 1 on 1, Charlotte wins the Raw Championship.

Big Stadium Event in Australia on WWE Network headlined by Charlotte vs Ronda for the Raw Title.

November - Auska gets injured and has to relinquish the championship undefeated.

Auska returns and wins the 2nd ever Women's Rumble and faces Ronda in the main event of WM 35

Cool King
04-02-2018, 11:37 AM
• Ronda wins

Mr. Pierre
04-02-2018, 12:26 PM
I think they wanna set up Rousey vs Charlotte to main event WM 35

slik
04-02-2018, 01:30 PM
Possible Charlotte entrance spoiler for WM34



Charlotte's entrance gear for WM34 is a take on HHH's entrance gear from WMXXX, per twitter

Anybody Thrilla
04-02-2018, 01:51 PM
I haven't been this excited about a Wrestlemania in a very long time.

Also, I was chatting with a buddy on Facebook, and "Doink" was auto-corrected to "Doing", and I've been laughing for like 36 minutes.

Danny Electric
04-02-2018, 03:02 PM
Now that Fish's injury has been officials confirmed , what are the chances of Roddy Strong turning on Dunne at NXT Takeover to join the Undisputed Era. Or is there anyone else ex ROH they could get to join them as from what I've heard he will be out for a while.

Anybody Thrilla
04-02-2018, 03:06 PM
I think that would be cool. Roddy is a great babyface, though.

Simple Fan
04-02-2018, 03:41 PM
Now that Fish's injury has been officials confirmed , what are the chances of Roddy Strong turning on Dunne at NXT Takeover to join the Undisputed Era. Or is there anyone else ex ROH they could get to join them as from what I've heard he will be out for a while.

Mike Kanilles would be a great choice in my opinion. Strong not a bad choice though.

Emperor Smeat
04-02-2018, 03:49 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Everyone takes a Big Boot from Giant Baba and now its Io's turn. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E7%B4%AB%E9%9B%B7%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#紫雷イオ</a> <a href="https://t.co/i1hPRF97kC">pic.twitter.com/i1hPRF97kC</a></p>&mdash; Dee��Tee (@chinlocked) <a href="https://twitter.com/chinlocked/status/980550470728015872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat
04-02-2018, 03:54 PM
Now that Fish's injury has been officials confirmed , what are the chances of Roddy Strong turning on Dunne at NXT Takeover to join the Undisputed Era. Or is there anyone else ex ROH they could get to join them as from what I've heard he will be out for a while.

Wouldn't really need to go after new ROH guys since they do have Donovan Dijak waiting in the wings at NXT.

If they want Undisputed Era to continue being an ex-ROH stable, they could put him in it as Fish's filler for the time being.

Simple Fan
04-02-2018, 04:23 PM
Wouldn't really call Dijak a ROH guy though. Was only there for maybe a year and barley did anything. Had it not been for his time with the Hose of Truth his run with them would be totally forgettable. Aside from his finisher nothing really sticks out about the guy.

Cool King
04-02-2018, 04:25 PM
Fun fact I've just discovered: If you search for "The Godfather Theme" on YouTube, the 100th video is The Godfather's (The Wrestler) theme.

The 99 videos before it are videos of The Godfather (The Film) theme.

Emperor Smeat
04-02-2018, 05:06 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big Show says he signed a new multi-year WWE contract in January and will not be retiring any time soon. <a href="https://t.co/wkMm5OJqUo">https://t.co/wkMm5OJqUo</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/980844578633740288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A.J.K
04-02-2018, 05:15 PM
Anyone else see Cena's instagram post? An American Badass shirt.

Hmmmm....

Jordan
04-02-2018, 05:16 PM
Well I'm fine with Big Show sticking around as long as he wants. It's really all about the booking. Should be the easiest guy to book in the history of the business. They can always restart the Big Show push if they want to. He's a great challenger when he goes on a rampage for a while. I'd be cool if they used Big Show on TV the same way they use Brock. He comes around every so often, rarely loses, and is a star destroyer.

Jordan
04-02-2018, 05:19 PM
OH man that would be my gimmick if I were a wrestler. The Star Destoryer, and I'd use the Imperial March as my theme. Do some Jediesque moves, including the force. Maybe I'd take over in DDT then conquer the states and become ROH Champ, everyone would say I'm too old for NXT by that point, hell I'll be close to 40 but those worries will quelled when I get the main spot against Roman in his last WM, they gotta have a new guy and I lied about my age on my papers.

Anybody Thrilla
04-02-2018, 07:18 PM
Wouldn't really need to go after new ROH guys since they do have Donovan Dijak waiting in the wings at NXT.

If they want Undisputed Era to continue being an ex-ROH stable, they could put him in it as Fish's filler for the time being.

Wouldn't really call Dijak a ROH guy though. Was only there for maybe a year and barley did anything. Had it not been for his time with the Hose of Truth his run with them would be totally forgettable. Aside from his finisher nothing really sticks out about the guy.

I like Dijak, personally. Very athletic for his size.

Anybody Thrilla
04-02-2018, 07:19 PM
Also, I WOULD call him an ROH guy, considering I have seen him literally nowhere else.

Bad News Gertner
04-02-2018, 08:57 PM
Dijak has a ton of potential.

Tom Guycott
04-02-2018, 10:46 PM
I honestly only remember him being a really tall guy that Dalton Castle called "Banana hands" once when he was going full Shallow Hal.

Didn't even know he was down in developmental. I thought he fell off the world like so many people do.

Dark One
04-02-2018, 11:36 PM
Very hyped for Cody vs Omega this weekend, but can't convince myself to watch Supercard of Honor over TakeOver.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qa4wbxmhkRI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Anybody Thrilla
04-03-2018, 12:52 AM
Why do they keep trying to bring Del Rio back when you have Almas and Vega just sitting there?

Tom Guycott
04-03-2018, 01:07 AM
Very hyped for Cody vs Omega this weekend, but can't convince myself to watch Supercard of Honor over TakeOver.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qa4wbxmhkRI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

1) I was expecting the 3Count green circles to show up at some point.

2) I couldn't not imagine CM Punks trunks-shitting story, and his Vince McMahon impression: "... and you're gonna get ALL WHITE GEARRR!"

Emperor Smeat
04-03-2018, 01:10 AM
Why do they keep trying to bring Del Rio back when you have Almas and Vega just sitting there?

Its due to Vince and WWE being absolutely terrible at developing a big Mexican star on their own. Vince's biggest weakness for a very long time has been his handling of lucha style wrestlers since its the one style that barely meshes with his preferred WWE style.

They got super lucky with Rey Mysterio and Del Rio due to WCW doing all the work beforehand for Mysterio and Del Rio being an established big star in Mexico prior to arriving in the WWE.

Anybody Thrilla
04-03-2018, 01:15 AM
I mean, Almas seems to be coming along beautifully.

Anybody Thrilla
04-03-2018, 01:16 AM
And I can't say enough about Zelena Vega. So good. So sexy. She's a star.

Emperor Smeat
04-03-2018, 02:51 AM
I mean, Almas seems to be coming along beautifully.

Almas has some really good big star potential but wouldn't be surprised at all if he fails on the main roster like Kalisto when it comes to them trying to building a big Mexican star on their own. Best case is him being a constant star in the IC/US scene.

If it wasn't for the spark Vega provided, he'd probably still be floundering in NXT because even they struggled to handle him well prior to the Vega pairing.

Fignuts
04-03-2018, 05:49 AM
Almas speaks less English than Asuka.

He's got charisma but not enough to make up for that imo

Innovator
04-03-2018, 10:30 AM
He's tranquilo, that makes up for it

slik
04-03-2018, 10:56 AM
I think this is is overall the strongest card for a WrestleMania since WM X-Seven.

#BROKEN Hasney
04-03-2018, 11:20 AM
I think this is is overall the strongest card for a WrestleMania since WM X-Seven.

Maybe? It's hard to say, because I love the lower card, but Cena/Taker, Roman/Brock and The Rousey match I give so few shits about and they're the biggest matches in terms of promotion. I think of they're all in the final chunk, it will make for a deflating experience.

slik
04-03-2018, 11:51 AM
Possible WM34 set description:


The WrestleMania 34 set has been described as a huge hat with a Fleur De Lis and WM logo via stageswwe on insta. Interesting!

slik
04-03-2018, 12:28 PM
Here's a video of a French YT'r attempting to get into the SDome -- he does get video footage of what appears to be the top of the set and lighting rigs above the ring around 3:10

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ERLilBPQrBI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

slik
04-03-2018, 03:27 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/x7yDKNz2hE">pic.twitter.com/x7yDKNz2hE</a></p>&mdash; Living Hex Girl (@JillJacksoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/JillJacksoff/status/981241085904211969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
04-03-2018, 03:28 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NXT North American Championship <a href="https://t.co/UGErmdk3PB">pic.twitter.com/UGErmdk3PB</a></p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/981248661253509127?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
04-03-2018, 03:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’re actually eating breakfast!</p>&mdash; Michelle McCool (@McCoolMichelleL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCoolMichelleL/status/981164308448137216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Anybody Thrilla
04-03-2018, 03:39 PM
Almas speaks less English than Asuka.

He's got charisma but not enough to make up for that imo

That's why I keep mentioning Vega in this package.

Jordan
04-03-2018, 03:39 PM
I wonder what the point of the NXT North American title is? Is it like a "King of the indies" title? If so that's cool, that actually helps the NXT title be even bigger.

Ruien
04-03-2018, 03:49 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We’re actually eating breakfast!</p>&mdash; Michelle McCool (@McCoolMichelleL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCoolMichelleL/status/981164308448137216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:rofl:

Emperor Smeat
04-03-2018, 04:12 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Bonk. <a href="https://t.co/O3D7DuTb0K">pic.twitter.com/O3D7DuTb0K</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/980962868995788800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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A.J.K
04-03-2018, 08:18 PM
i'm probably the only want who wants to see Jeff Jarrett and Hulk Hogan each have one more match at a Wrestlemania.

Emperor Smeat
04-03-2018, 11:54 PM
Based on data from the Observer, this year's Road to Mania for RAW actually managed to break the years long streak of the current year doing worse than the previous year's Road period.

The biggest reasons were RAW having fewer declining weeks and the RAW 25 show doing mega numbers.

In regards to the go-home episode, the decline was due to it competing with last year's RAW After Mania show.

https://www.f4wonline.com/sites/www.f4wonline.com/files/paulgohomechart.png

Savio
04-04-2018, 12:09 AM
and Monday was the end of March Madness

Emperor Smeat
04-04-2018, 01:15 AM
WWE actually caught a huge break since this year's NCAA championship game barely affected the numbers for this week's RAW. Also helped this year's title game wasn't on CBS unlike last year.

Staying even against that level of a sporting event has to be considered good, even though the Villanova-Michigan game did 13.28 million viewers, shockingly low since no NCAA final in the last 43 years had ever fallen below 17 million and last year's final drew 23 million viewers.

Tom Guycott
04-04-2018, 01:47 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NXT North American Championship <a href="https://t.co/UGErmdk3PB">pic.twitter.com/UGErmdk3PB</a></p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/981248661253509127?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Obadiah Stane looks unimpressed at the first attempt to re-create the Iron Man armor...

Tom Guycott
04-04-2018, 01:49 AM
i'm probably the only want who wants to see Jeff Jarrett and Hulk Hogan each have one more match at a Wrestlemania.

Only if Jarrett lays down for him at the opening bell again.

Droford
04-04-2018, 02:21 AM
i'm probably the only want who wants to see Jeff Jarrett and Hulk Hogan each have one more match at a Wrestlemania.

Jarrett could probably wrestle another match.

Hogan should never be allowed near a ring ever

slik
04-04-2018, 09:30 AM
I hope Hogan is the new GM of RAW or SDLive

Big Vic
04-04-2018, 09:32 AM
I hope he is the GM of 205Live once Rapstar Potato starts wrestling.

#BROKEN Hasney
04-04-2018, 09:44 AM
I hope Hogan is the new GM of RAW or SDLive

Me too. Less desire to ever watch Raw and Smackdown again and not waste time.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 09:54 AM
This again?

Keep Hogan away from wrestling for good.

slik
04-04-2018, 10:11 AM
Hogan deserves a good final run in the 'E in some role.
He's the biggest name in the history of pro-wrestling.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 10:17 AM
How many final runs can one have? Fuck's sake.

slik
04-04-2018, 10:20 AM
His last one was interrupted b/c of his sex tape. Glad he dropped the big boot on Gawker.

Hogan should get a final run as a GM and then a huge send-off as big if not bigger than Flair got. For a company that honors Andre and Warrior each year, it wouldn't be right to not acknowledge the Hulkster in some way. Hogan, Savage and Warrior were the biggest stars of the era that redefined pro-wrestling.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 10:26 AM
His last one was interrupted b/c of his sex tape. Glad he dropped the big boot on Gawker.

Hogan should get a final run as a GM and then a huge send-off as big if not bigger than Flair got. For a company that honors Andre and Warrior each year, it wouldn't be right to not acknowledge the Hulkster in some way. Hogan, Savage and Warrior were the biggest stars of the era that redefined pro-wrestling.

You can't be serious about the Warrior.

wwe2222
04-04-2018, 10:32 AM
Ill never not want to see Hogan on tv.

#BROKEN Hasney
04-04-2018, 10:34 AM
His last one was interrupted b/c of his sex tape. Glad he dropped the big boot on Gawker.

Hogan should get a final run as a GM and then a huge send-off as big if not bigger than Flair got. For a company that honors Andre and Warrior each year, it wouldn't be right to not acknowledge the Hulkster in some way. Hogan, Savage and Warrior were the biggest stars of the era that redefined pro-wrestling.

I'd rather they didn't honour the Warrior either tbh rather than add bullshit.

It's time to move on.

Simple Fan
04-04-2018, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see Hogan back. I think he will be the Smackdown GM after Bryan quits to wrestle. Hogan vs Cena next year at Wrestlemania.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 10:39 AM
I used to be a huge Hogan mark, mainly watched WCW because of him. But seriously, fuck off already. Stay home, brother.

Rammsteinmad
04-04-2018, 11:04 AM
Hogan had his "one last run" back in 2002.

slik
04-04-2018, 11:08 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HeymanHustle</a>: Working with <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERomanReigns?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWERomanReigns</a> would be an absolute career defining moment for me <a href="https://t.co/HMwuZRok5N">https://t.co/HMwuZRok5N</a> <a href="https://t.co/MH1iKdcH44">pic.twitter.com/MH1iKdcH44</a></p>&mdash; NBC Sports (@NBCSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCSports/status/981526823224905732?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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slik
04-04-2018, 11:09 AM
You can't be serious about the Warrior.

Warrior replaced Hogan as the WWE's top guy until he quit.

slik
04-04-2018, 11:10 AM
I'd say the most important wrestlers in the history of pro-wrestling are:


HOGAN
Ric Flair
The Rock
Steve Austin
John Cena
Undertaker


Cases could be made for Shawn Michaels, Macho, Steamboat and Andre as well. I don't know that anyone before the WWF boom of the 80's really has much influence after WM/WWF became a thing.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 11:15 AM
Warrior replaced Hogan as the WWE's top guy until he quit.

Yeah, they MADE him their top guy, doesn't mean anyone bought it. I mean, some kids, sure, but he was never one the same level as Hogan or Savage.

slik
04-04-2018, 11:32 AM
I guess the crowd won't boo until Kid Rock opens his mouth then


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Kid Rock’s Hall of Fame inductor is a former Hall of Fame headliner himself. Still not 100% on it, but I’m expecting a can of whoop ass to be opened on stage Friday night.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/981547077195968519?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Sixx
04-04-2018, 11:42 AM
Wait, Kid Rock is getting inducted?

What the fuck for?

Simple Fan
04-04-2018, 12:18 PM
For being an American Badass, duh.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 12:26 PM
You mean a scrawny, badass wannabe pothead.

Big Vic
04-04-2018, 12:27 PM
He's done a lot more than half the celebs in that wing.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 12:28 PM
Like what?

Bad News Gertner
04-04-2018, 12:57 PM
I'd say the most important wrestlers in the history of pro-wrestling are:


HOGAN
Ric Flair
The Rock
Steve Austin
John Cena
Undertaker


Cases could be made for Shawn Michaels, Macho, Steamboat and Andre as well. I don't know that anyone before the WWF boom of the 80's really has much influence after WM/WWF became a thing.

If it weren't for Bruno Sammartino there'd be no WWE

slik
04-04-2018, 01:26 PM
WM 34 Set!

I really like it:




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WrestleMania 34 set construction has begun! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WrestleMania</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a><br>Credit stageswwe on insta: <a href="https://t.co/LhK4K69nBo">pic.twitter.com/LhK4K69nBo</a></p>&mdash; Kenton Lane (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/981585994943287296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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slik
04-04-2018, 03:24 PM
Another look at the set construction, shorter entrance ramp this year:




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another update to the WM34 set, looks like a slightly short entrance ramp this year and circular tron above the ring <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WrestleMania</a> <a href="https://t.co/mWb7Ndk2iE">pic.twitter.com/mWb7Ndk2iE</a></p>&mdash; Kenton Lane (@TheKentonLane) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane/status/981610274347212800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Jordan
04-04-2018, 03:35 PM
My opinion on Hogan. Yeah I want Hogan back as a fan but as a person he's truly a piece of shit. He's lied and manipulated and been nothing but selfish as far as I can tell his entire life. He's not a good person, has plenty of morality issues and is racist. He was caught saying NIGGER with HARD R repeatedly with the obvious perception that he was better than anyone who is black. So you really think he deserves anything? He should be thankful for the success that was given to him by Verne and then Vince, he doesn't deserve anything.

Jordan
04-04-2018, 03:36 PM
He needs to earn his way back. Put himself out there as a person being positive and good. Go to church with Sting, visit the elderly and sick, truly make a heart felt apology for his actions. He fucked himself, and WWE is good for being strong in sticking to their guns.

slik
04-04-2018, 03:56 PM
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slik
04-04-2018, 04:05 PM
Pyro confirmed for WM34:



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slik
04-04-2018, 05:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/GhGGLUf.png

Lock Jaw
04-04-2018, 05:29 PM
Proud of HBM. Always feel "glad" seeing old wrestlers change their "look" after retiring instead of "clinging to the gimmick forever".

Sixx
04-04-2018, 05:40 PM
He's been balding for decades.

Mr. Nerfect
04-04-2018, 05:52 PM
What is Hogan going to bring? He'll just show up and do his taunts and stuff. I dunno, it's not like a promo from him even means something. He's delusional so no one would believe it if he put anyone over. He can't bump or sell anymore. Just leave him gone.

Sixx
04-04-2018, 06:03 PM
What is Hogan going to bring? He'll just show up and do his taunts and stuff. I dunno, it's not like a promo from him even means something. He's delusional so no one would believe it if he put anyone over. He can't bump or sell anymore. Just leave him gone.

His taunts have been fucking irritating for years now, too.

Dude, you're not Mr Olympia. You're 65 years old.

Damn, he's my dad's age. It's like watching my dad do those taunts, which is actually pretty realistic cause he's an idiot.

Bad News Gertner
04-04-2018, 06:29 PM
It'd make me happy. That's enough.

slik
04-04-2018, 07:19 PM
Hogan could throw around a couple cruiserweights or Pete Dunne.

It'd probably be the only reaction most of them ever get in WWE.

slik
04-04-2018, 07:20 PM
I think Jeff Jarrett should be the GM of RAW and Hogan should be the GM of SD.

WM35: Jeff Jarrett vs HHH

slik
04-04-2018, 07:37 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">wasn't lookin, but randy orton has da sexiest white man butt ive seen next 2 steve nash</p>&mdash; SHAQ (@SHAQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/SHAQ/status/2882097888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2009</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat
04-04-2018, 09:17 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">😮 <a href="https://t.co/EdfL9ITKzx">pic.twitter.com/EdfL9ITKzx</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/981367834008866816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Better looking knee move than the one Rollins uses. The standing version Rollins uses with the Rainmaker setup never came off as an impactful strike especially as a finisher.

Droford
04-04-2018, 09:28 PM
I think Jeff Jarrett should be the GM of RAW and Hogan should be the GM of SD.

WM35: Jeff Jarrett vs HHH

I think hbks haircut leads to him being a gm

Fignuts
04-04-2018, 10:00 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">😮 <a href="https://t.co/EdfL9ITKzx">pic.twitter.com/EdfL9ITKzx</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/981367834008866816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Better looking knee move than the one Rollins uses. The standing version Rollins uses with the Rainmaker setup never came off as an impactful strike especially as a finisher.

Omega's version looks better. More solid looking connection.

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Would argue though that the move is helped by good selling, and the people I've seen Omega hit it on, generally do a much better job than the people seth has hit it on.

Coincidentally, that knee Buddy Murphy is using is the latest innovation from Kota Ibushi.

Emperor Smeat
04-04-2018, 10:21 PM
Yeah the selling of Rollins move is a big problem. Also doesn't help Rollins move looks way too slow or weak as a finisher. If he ditched the Rainmaker hold and went with Triple H's style for knee strikes, it would look a lot better.

With Omega, he has different ways of connecting with the V-Trigger and the most vicious being when he gets the snapping effect from the running version. Same with Ibushi's impact coming from his follow through with the knee.

Droford
04-04-2018, 11:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dana White dropping news that Brock Lesnar is coming back to the octagon. <a href="https://t.co/FUGHO21i8O">pic.twitter.com/FUGHO21i8O</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: UFC (@UFCONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/UFCONFOX/status/981713233559019520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gonna be like Wrestlemania 20 out there

Emperor Smeat
04-05-2018, 12:56 AM
Rumor going around the net is Rusev has been asking for his release the past several weeks and WWE adding him into the IC match at Mania is likely their way of convincing him to stay.

PWI reported they've heard of rumblings of Rusev being very unhappy for a while over the lack of direction for his career especially with his Rusev Day gimmick not leading to any real notable improvements.

"I know I heard a month or three weeks ago that Rusev was pushing for a release because he wasn't happy with how he was being used but I could not confirm that with a second source. So, it's possible it's true and I feel it's interesting that he was suddenly added to the match [at WrestleMania]."

#BROKEN Hasney
04-05-2018, 02:21 AM
Hogan could throw around a couple cruiserweights or Pete Dunne.

It'd probably be the only reaction most of them ever get in WWE.

Right... Go watch 205 Live and see how Kalisto and Buddy Murphy, with no promotion from any main show, wake up a bored and tired crowd with a fucking awesome match.
Leave the old man in the retirement home where he belongs.

slik
04-05-2018, 03:54 AM
They did cool stuff but no one is going to pay attention to them outside of the most ardent fans.

HULK HOGAN and VINCE MCMAHON are the reason cruiserweights even exist. They are the only reason any wrestling exists after 1984. No one can say if Japan or Mexico's organizations would have ever caught on worldwide if Vince didn't create the option of wrestling being global. If not for Vince and Hogan wrestling would have plodded along as a mortuary for restholds.

Fignuts
04-05-2018, 04:20 AM
Can Hogan do 630 leg drop?

Then fuck em'.

Fignuts
04-05-2018, 04:32 AM
They did cool stuff but no one is going to pay attention to them outside of the most ardent fans.



Then I hope they die.

Fignuts
04-05-2018, 04:45 AM
Murdered.

Fignuts
04-05-2018, 04:57 AM
By the person they love and trust the most.

Fignuts
04-05-2018, 04:57 AM
The whole time, never accepting it.

#BROKEN Hasney
04-05-2018, 06:06 AM
They did cool stuff but no one is going to pay attention to them outside of the most ardent fans.

HULK HOGAN and VINCE MCMAHON are the reason cruiserweights even exist. They are the only reason any wrestling exists after 1984. No one can say if Japan or Mexico's organizations would have ever caught on worldwide if Vince didn't create the option of wrestling being global. If not for Vince and Hogan wrestling would have plodded along as a mortuary for restholds.

Great. It's not 1984 anymore. They can both retire.

#BROKEN Hasney
04-05-2018, 06:07 AM
Although Gertner is living in 1984 wrestling wise exclusively ha

Ol Dirty Dastard
04-05-2018, 07:11 AM
I mean there'd be no Hulk Hogan or Vince McMahon without *insert laundry list of legends ie. Bruno Sammartino*

The only fucking difference is those guys finally went away and let other people shine and didn't feel the need to remind everyone they laid the groundwork.

Bad News Gertner
04-05-2018, 07:26 AM
I hope Hogan cashes in his Money in the Bank briefcase at Wrestlemania and does a double leg drop on Styles and Nakamura.

They'd finally have a Champ that is over.

DAMN iNATOR
04-05-2018, 07:59 AM
Na3y2TIY6r8

slik
04-05-2018, 08:19 AM
I mean there'd be no Hulk Hogan or Vince McMahon without *insert laundry list of legends ie. Bruno Sammartino*

The only fucking difference is those guys finally went away and let other people shine and didn't feel the need to remind everyone they laid the groundwork.

Bruno is important in the sense he kept the WWWF afloat and was really popular and drew big gates at MSG regularly (sold out the Garden) and w/o him the WWWF wouldn't have existed to be purchased by Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

Roman Reigns is a better wrestler than Bruno Sammartino though.

Mr. Nerfect
04-05-2018, 08:23 AM
Right... Go watch 205 Live and see how Kalisto and Buddy Murphy, with no promotion from any main show, wake up a bored and tired crowd with a fucking awesome match.
Leave the old man in the retirement home where he belongs.

Lol. I don't want Hogan back, but lol.

slik
04-05-2018, 08:29 AM
Punches, Kicks, Bodyslams, Bearhugs

Bruno should return to RAW and cut a promo thanking HOGAN, CENA and THE BIG DOG ROMAN REIGNS for evolving the sport past this by adding the 'wow' factor and entertainment:


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slik
04-05-2018, 08:51 AM
Meltzer loved these two matches and rated them big in the Observer:


Rollins vs Balor: 4.25 stars

Murphy vs Kalisto: 4 stars

Big Vic
04-05-2018, 09:17 AM
Wish I paid more attention to Rollins vs Balor when it was on.

Bad News Gertner
04-05-2018, 10:39 AM
Lol Smackdown ratings dropped the week before Wrestlemania

Maybe they do need Hogan to save the show.

#1-norm-fan
04-05-2018, 12:34 PM
Is Cena vs Taker happening or not? I thought it had been confirmed but after seeing some talk of Cena being in the battle royal, I checked the Wikipedia page and there's no mention of Taker vs Cena.

If it is happening, this is a horrible job promoting a match even by WWE standards. If it isn't happening, it's a horrible waste of Cena and the hinting at the match was retarded.

Big Vic
04-05-2018, 12:38 PM
Maybe WWE was actually trying to convince taker the whole time.

slik
04-05-2018, 12:40 PM
Damn...sounds like WWE roster just hanging out in French Quarter and people keep running into them...wish I was already in New Orleans...would mark to see a wrestler drunk af but pretending not to be so they didn't get in trouble

Big Vic
04-05-2018, 12:41 PM
What match are people most excited about?

DB/Shane vs KO/Sami for me

slik
04-05-2018, 12:42 PM
DB/Shane vs KO/Sami for me too

Simple Fan
04-05-2018, 12:43 PM
AJ vs Nakamura for me.

Dark One
04-05-2018, 12:47 PM
Braun + El Torito vs the Bar for me.

Lock Jaw
04-05-2018, 01:11 PM
Is Cena vs Taker happening or not? I thought it had been confirmed but after seeing some talk of Cena being in the battle royal, I checked the Wikipedia page and there's no mention of Taker vs Cena.

If it is happening, this is a horrible job promoting a match even by WWE standards. If it isn't happening, it's a horrible waste of Cena and the hinting at the match was retarded.

I'm thinking that Cena never gets Taker in the ring, but Taker is in New Orleans.....

Cena finds him in the street and continues to call him a coward, and then eventually goads him into a fight on the street, where he gets his ass kicked.

slik
04-05-2018, 01:12 PM
Taker vs Cena is definitely happening

They wouldn't have spent weeks promoting it via Cena's good promo's otherwise
It's the one year they can get away w/o announcing it like normal b/c the card is so stacked and people are already tuning in

Big Vic
04-05-2018, 01:44 PM
Taker will come out on Raw and accept his challenge for next year at Mania.

slik
04-05-2018, 03:08 PM
Someone uploaded a bunch of their photos they took in 1987 at WrestleMania 3 -- Some really cool shots!

https://imgur.com/a/eUre9

Droford
04-05-2018, 03:13 PM
Dana White needs to fire Connor Mcgreggor before Sunday so he can show up at WM and kick Kesnar in the balls on his way out lol

Cool King
04-05-2018, 04:00 PM
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XL
04-05-2018, 04:06 PM
Is Cena vs Taker happening or not? I thought it had been confirmed but after seeing some talk of Cena being in the battle royal, I checked the Wikipedia page and there's no mention of Taker vs Cena.

If it is happening, this is a horrible job promoting a match even by WWE standards. If it isn't happening, it's a horrible waste of Cena and the hinting at the match was retarded.

Cena will be sat ringside at some point in the night, Kid Rock performs a song, then starts up ‘American Badass’, enter Bikertaker, start match/fight.

Emperor Smeat
04-05-2018, 04:11 PM
Is Cena vs Taker happening or not? I thought it had been confirmed but after seeing some talk of Cena being in the battle royal, I checked the Wikipedia page and there's no mention of Taker vs Cena.

If it is happening, this is a horrible job promoting a match even by WWE standards. If it isn't happening, it's a horrible waste of Cena and the hinting at the match was retarded.

Seems it could be one of those last minute decisions by Vince since one rumored plan involves this year's Mania just being the setup for a match next year. Another rumored plan is to just have them in a segment but no match in order to keep Reigns status as the one who retired Taker intact.

WWE's been recently promoting Taker-Cena as something you need to watch all of Mania to actually find out if it happens or not.

Nicky Fives
04-05-2018, 04:24 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaCa141X0AMwXIf.jpg:large

Undertaker/Sting, Hogan/Cena, Bret/Bryan, Eddie/Austin, Savage/Rock, Jericho/Flair, Foley/Jake and HBK/Andre

Thought about swapping HBK & Austin as Andre is super hard to book an opponent for

Evil Vito
04-05-2018, 04:36 PM
15 Man Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Winner faces Andre the Giant

Lock Jaw
04-05-2018, 05:32 PM
Hogan/Cena
Austin/Flair
Foley/Jake
The Rock/Sting
Andre/Undertaker
Bret Hart/Daniel Bryan
HBK/Macho Man
Eddie/Jericho

James Steele
04-05-2018, 07:33 PM
Eddie Guerrero vs HBK vs Randy Savage vs Chris Jericho (Fatal 4 Way Elimination)
Undertaker vs Sting (Buried Alive Match)
Stone Cold vs Cactus Jack (Hardcore Match)
Bret Hart vs Daniel Bryan (Ironman Match)
John Cena/Hulk Hogan/The Rock vs Andre the Giant/Jake Roberts/Ric Flair (Standard 6-Man Tag)

Droford
04-05-2018, 07:43 PM
Lets see

Austin vs Hogan
Rock vs Savage
Foley vs Sting (ugh TNA)
Taker vs Andre
Bryan vs HBK
Jake vs Eddie
Cena vs Flair
Jericho vs Bret

Simple Fan
04-05-2018, 07:51 PM
Sting vs Undertaker
Hogan and Savage vs Cena and Bryan
Ric Flair vs Andre the Giant
Austin vs Rock
Ediie vs Hart
Jericho vs HBK
Foley vs Jake the Snake.

Emperor Smeat
04-05-2018, 08:17 PM
Taker vs Sting
Rock vs HBK
Hogan vs Cena
Andre vs Flair
Foley vs Eddie
Jericho vs Savage
Bret vs Jake
Austin vs Bryan

Vastardikai
04-05-2018, 08:35 PM
Flair vs Hogan

Sting vs. Undertaker
Eddie vs. Savage
Andre vs. Foley
Hart vs. Austin
Rock vs. Jericho
Michaels vs. Bryan
Cena vs. Jake

Bad News Gertner
04-05-2018, 09:26 PM
Hogan vs Austin
Hart vs Eddie
Andre vs Bryan
Rock vs Sting
Jericho vs Jake
Flair vs Savage
Michaels vs Foley
Taker vs Cena

slik
04-05-2018, 10:17 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They are doing the Finn Freeze! ��<br><br>Ronda tho ���� <a href="https://t.co/iEQCNpM1Eo">pic.twitter.com/iEQCNpM1Eo</a></p>&mdash; Zaira♡ 3 days till WM34/70 days till World Cup (@coupdebanks) <a href="https://twitter.com/coupdebanks/status/982068308512931842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat
04-05-2018, 10:54 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ELIAS IS ON BOURBON STREET!!! <a href="https://t.co/wj5H4jPgZw">https://t.co/wj5H4jPgZw</a></p>&mdash; Kings of the Rings Podcast (@KOTR_Podcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/KOTR_Podcast/status/982085903312039937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Fignuts
04-06-2018, 01:40 AM
Joey Janela hit a piledriver on someone on Bourbon Street

Jordan
04-06-2018, 02:34 AM
Austin/Hogan
Taker/Andre
Flair & Sting/HBK & Bryan
Bret/Jericho
Rock/Eddie
Cena/Savage
Jake/Foley

slik
04-06-2018, 08:04 AM
Miz is on my flight to NOLA!