"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[xrodmuc316]

CM punk put Lambert to sleep, laid another "pipe bomb", followed by a mic drop.

Who then had to give it to Mickey Gall after he tapped out?

[Bad News Gertner]

If you ever wondered why 84-85 WWF wrestling is my favourite it's because of stuff like this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roddy Piper interrupts an interview with Danny DeVito.<br><br>Piper is absolutely superb here. <a href="https://t.co/5Rq0rDRtlu">pic.twitter.com/5Rq0rDRtlu</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1438028660095823872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TNT was watched by 1,175,000 viewers on average. 574,000 viewers were aged 18 to 49 (0.44 rating).<br><br>Dynamite narrowly beat Raw (0.43) in the demo for the second week in a row.<br><br>�� More analysis across various demos: <a href="https://t.co/EHc6sPQuKc">https://t.co/EHc6sPQuKc</a> <a href="https://t.co/BLn2ybrZJ6">pic.twitter.com/BLn2ybrZJ6</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1438593413994135560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

Who then had to give it to Mickey Gall after he tapped out?


:nono:

[ron the dial]

i love watching nxtuk take place in an empty arena yet "this is awesome" chants break out. of course there are other "cheers" throughout the show, but the chant really did it for me. phenomenal stuff.

[Gerard]

If you ever wondered why 84-85 WWF wrestling is my favourite it's because of stuff like this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roddy Piper interrupts an interview with Danny DeVito.<br><br>Piper is absolutely superb here. <a href="https://t.co/5Rq0rDRtlu">pic.twitter.com/5Rq0rDRtlu</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1438028660095823872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did piper say "wonderful wonderful, the plains"? Sounded like it though no idea what he meant.

[Bad News Gertner]

He was calling Danny "Tattoo" the midget from Fantasy Island. " The Plane, The Plane".

IUQiO25IwYM

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kanyon might be the only wrestler I’ve seen sell a powerbomb as a low blow headbutt. <a href="https://t.co/g3hKNL6VYH">pic.twitter.com/g3hKNL6VYH</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1432892060806361088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

To be fair to Kanyon, looks like he legit got nailed in the nuts from the powerbomb.

[Bad News Gertner]

haha true

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big Van Vader makes a terrifying entrance to face Tatsumi Fujinami in Germany <a href="https://t.co/bZm5vT1hHf">pic.twitter.com/bZm5vT1hHf</a></p>&mdash; Tripping Balls (@IsThisWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/IsThisWrestling/status/1438345445844074499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Noid]

You know what grinds my gears, folks? People enjoying things that I don't approve of. It sickens me to my very core. How dare you find joy when there's so an ocean of misery to drown in. Read books, ya filthy yanks.

[Tom Guycott]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kanyon might be the only wrestler I’ve seen sell a powerbomb as a low blow headbutt. <a href="https://t.co/g3hKNL6VYH">pic.twitter.com/g3hKNL6VYH</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1432892060806361088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

To be fair to Kanyon, looks like he legit got nailed in the nuts from the powerbomb.

And (can't tell who gave it) immediately covered his nose like he took a self inflicted crotch shot to the schnozz. That seemed legit on both parties.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's Scott Armstrong

[drave]

Big Van Vader makes a terrifying entrance to face Tatsumi Fujinami in Germany pic.twitter.com/bZm5vT1hHf (https://t.co/bZm5vT1hHf)
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ended up following this entire chain watching all the highlights.

[Bad News Gertner]

Haha same

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TNT was watched by 1,175,000 viewers on average. 574,000 viewers were aged 18 to 49 (0.44 rating).<br><br>Dynamite narrowly beat Raw (0.43) in the demo for the second week in a row.<br><br>�� More analysis across various demos: <a href="https://t.co/EHc6sPQuKc">https://t.co/EHc6sPQuKc</a> <a href="https://t.co/BLn2ybrZJ6">pic.twitter.com/BLn2ybrZJ6</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1438593413994135560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Unfortunately those people are all fat virgins who most advertisers would leave in a burning barn to save a duck. That part always gets dropped off.

Hey, WWE has actually done a pretty good job of building up some black stars on Raw. You’ve got Bobby Lashley, MVP, Big E, The New Day and Omos. Now, I think representation is important anyway, but I do wonder how those shows track with black viewers? Black kids? You know, versus Cody Rhodes and his white savior complex. I wonder who advertisers would rather appeal to? Hmm.

Raw is also a three-hour show, so Dynamite gets an average across two hours compared to a show that is always going to be lowered by their third hour because of the slot, which still performs better than most other things on cable, which is why it hasn’t been axed. And all three hours of Raw are ranked, so in essence, WWE had three of these bullshit slots locked up, whereas AEW only has one.

But yes, let’s keep comparing apples to pears and pushing this imaginary narrative of AEW catching Raw in terms of popularity or in their appeal to advertisers, which is the ONLY reason ratings matter.

WWE is PG, its audience is larger — domestically and globally — and its audience is probably a little more diverse than the fat white crowds you see at Dynamite anyway. But let’s not talk about the actual demographics of the fan-base. Let’s pretend that 18-49 still matters when it comes to CABLE TELEVISION in 2021.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2015 ROH was on something. <a href="https://t.co/VYpPyOkkEW">pic.twitter.com/VYpPyOkkEW</a></p>&mdash; Bell-Bottomed Jeans Boots With The Fur (@itringsabell) <a href="https://twitter.com/itringsabell/status/1438833586052890624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I saw a recent interview with Joe Koff where he said ROH is watched by 300k, 400k and even 500k people every week. The closest race in wrestling might be between AEW and ROH for #2.

I really wish Sinclair broke the bank and signed CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe and Brock Lesnar when they were free agents.

[slik]

Hotshotting a potential Survivor Series match due to ratings

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[M-A-G]

https://i.imgur.com/rM4Nb2B.jpeg

[fundiddle]

Hotshotting a potential Survivor Series match due to ratings

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i've always felt like inter-brand matches on free tv were hotshotting and therefore not that appealing. even though there are plenty of arguments against the original brand split, at least those encounters meant something when they happened
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[Stu Hart]

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[Fignuts]

i've always felt like inter-brand matches on free tv were hotshotting and therefore not that appealing. even though there are plenty of arguments against the original brand split, at least those encounters meant something when they happened
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When the original brand split took place, crossover matches only happened at wrestlemania, and they felt really special.

[fundiddle]

royal rumbles were pretty great in those days, too...


seems weird how they started doing supershows, dissolved the split, resplit the rosters and are doing it all over again


if they want the champ on both shows, unify the belts again. i actually didn't even mind it when they did the first draft and hogan and trish could go wherever

[Mr. Nerfect]

Roman Reigns appearing on both shows is the best thing they can do to help that show. The roster split always leaves someone behind. It has to.

Last time they brought the rosters together they kept the WWE and World Heavyweight Titles separate for about two years after the fact.

[Noid]

Roman Reigns appearing on both shows is the best thing they can do to help that show. The roster split always leaves someone behind. It has to.

Last time they brought the rosters together they kept the WWE and World Heavyweight Titles separate for about two years after the fact.

I didn't appreciate how the World Heavyweight Championship played second fiddle to the WWE Championship during that era. They've done a much better job with the Universal Championship, even considering some of the terrible booking decisions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The WWE Championship is now basically what the World Heavyweight Title was. The belt held by Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns is always going to feel more important.

[Noid]

When commentary is a detriment. Jericho needs to go.

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[Noid]

The WWE Championship is now basically what the World Heavyweight Title was. The belt held by Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns is always going to feel more important.

It was in a similar position during Triple H's reign of terror. It has the "prestige" behind it to persist through the years.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It was in a similar position during Triple H's reign of terror. It has the "prestige" behind it to persist through the years.

Actually a fair point. I wish there was just one though, because you can only truly have one “top guy.”

[Mr. Nerfect]

When commentary is a detriment. Jericho needs to go.

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Hot take: Chris Jericho has been the drizzling shits for the past five years, and his entire career trajectory since hooking himself to Kevin Owens has been to find roles where he can mask his alcoholism by playing to a converted choir.

It’s sad. I’d always love classic Chris Jericho. He did great things for Tazz Dan. But he’s a washed up hack who needs wrestling and knows enough of the words to get fans he earned in yesteryear to ignore his declining talent and obnoxious neediness for any sort of relevancy.

I genuinely hope his story doesn’t end in tragedy. He’s gone through a lot of shit, losing friends, peers, injuries, brushes with true fame that never amounted to anything sustainable. Great artists, and Jericho was one, find clever way of masking their issues so they can indulge while seemingly being in control. I’ve got a spooky feeling from Jericho for a long time. I think it was when his weight gain started and he tried to pass it off as him wanting to be a heel in Japan. He hasn’t worked there since. It was a lie. And he went from being a classically minded pro-wrestler who didn’t even want merchandise as a heel to being a sap that will market anything and everything he can. And I think he tries to pass it off as a gimmick (“Everyone I ever loved, I pushed them all away”), but I think he’s in way worse emotional shape than people realize. Dude was drinking most of a bottle of vodka during some of his drunken podcasts.

To think of how active his lifestyle must actually be — training for wrestling but also performing on stage when he does it. And he’s still gained so much weight and lost so much physical control of who he is, to the point he is actually ashamed of it. Look at photos of him sucking in his gut as he poses with women half his age. And look at how he tweeted that photo of him in response to the NBA lead-in backlash. If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t go out of his way to try and pass himself off as an Adonis still.

It can be so easy to put up the blinders when you respect and admire someone’s work so much. But the evidence that this dude has lost it has been there for a long time, and all his energy goes into convincing people he’s still a genius so you should just trust him instead of actually getting the human being behind the performer help.

[slik]

I don't think WWE would ever give a non-wrestler the headliner spot in a HOF ceremony but if they ever did, it'd be hard to argue against Paul Heyman being the guy to get it.

[Noid]

Hot take: Chris Jericho has been the drizzling shits for the past five years, and his entire career trajectory since hooking himself to Kevin Owens has been to find roles where he can mask his alcoholism by playing to a converted choir.

It’s sad. I’d always love classic Chris Jericho. He did great things for Tazz Dan. But he’s a washed up hack who needs wrestling and knows enough of the words to get fans he earned in yesteryear to ignore his declining talent and obnoxious neediness for any sort of relevancy.

I genuinely hope his story doesn’t end in tragedy. He’s gone through a lot of shit, losing friends, peers, injuries, brushes with true fame that never amounted to anything sustainable. Great artists, and Jericho was one, find clever way of masking their issues so they can indulge while seemingly being in control. I’ve got a spooky feeling from Jericho for a long time. I think it was when his weight gain started and he tried to pass it off as him wanting to be a heel in Japan. He hasn’t worked there since. It was a lie. And he went from being a classically minded pro-wrestler who didn’t even want merchandise as a heel to being a sap that will market anything and everything he can. And I think he tries to pass it off as a gimmick (“Everyone I ever loved, I pushed them all away”), but I think he’s in way worse emotional shape than people realize. Dude was drinking most of a bottle of vodka during some of his drunken podcasts.

To think of how active his lifestyle must actually be — training for wrestling but also performing on stage when he does it. And he’s still gained so much weight and lost so much physical control of who he is, to the point he is actually ashamed of it. Look at photos of him sucking in his gut as he poses with women half his age. And look at how he tweeted that photo of him in response to the NBA lead-in backlash. If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t go out of his way to try and pass himself off as an Adonis still.

It can be so easy to put up the blinders when you respect and admire someone’s work so much. But the evidence that this dude has lost it has been there for a long time, and all his energy goes into convincing people he’s still a genius so you should just trust him instead of actually getting the human being behind the performer help.

While I still enjoy his work, I'm saddened by his progression. He certainly needs an intervention but it seems like people are gladly enabling his tendencies. This is beyond his politics or his ability to handle fair criticism.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

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I hope this is real because that was hilarious

[xrodmuc316]

Unfortunately those people are all fat virgins who most advertisers would leave in a burning barn to save a duck. That part always gets dropped off.

Hey, WWE has actually done a pretty good job of building up some black stars on Raw. You’ve got Bobby Lashley, MVP, Big E, The New Day and Omos. Now, I think representation is important anyway, but I do wonder how those shows track with black viewers? Black kids? You know, versus Cody Rhodes and his white savior complex. I wonder who advertisers would rather appeal to? Hmm.

Raw is also a three-hour show, so Dynamite gets an average across two hours compared to a show that is always going to be lowered by their third hour because of the slot, which still performs better than most other things on cable, which is why it hasn’t been axed. And all three hours of Raw are ranked, so in essence, WWE had three of these bullshit slots locked up, whereas AEW only has one.

But yes, let’s keep comparing apples to pears and pushing this imaginary narrative of AEW catching Raw in terms of popularity or in their appeal to advertisers, which is the ONLY reason ratings matter.

WWE is PG, its audience is larger — domestically and globally — and its audience is probably a little more diverse than the fat white crowds you see at Dynamite anyway. But let’s not talk about the actual demographics of the fan-base. Let’s pretend that 18-49 still matters when it comes to CABLE TELEVISION in 2021.

How come AEW never talks about the 18-34 demo, and only the 18-49 demo? Maybe Raw beats AEW in the 18-34 demo, which seems to go against that theory of AEW drawing a younger audience maybe???

[#1-norm-fan]

Pretty sure AEW beat Raw 18-34 as well.

So... maybe not.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmaoooo

[Gerard]

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Was expecting this video to be a few hours long. :rofl: Hogan has talked so much shit over the years pretty much all of which has been debunked, embarrassing.

[#1-norm-fan]

I thought about posting that clip after hearing it. That was the hardest I’ve laughed listening to a Cornette podcast in a long time. The Harley Race story had me in tears. It was so bizarrely nonsensical.

[Gerard]

I thought about posting that clip after hearing it. That was the hardest I’ve laughed listening to a Cornette podcast in a long time. The Harley Race story had me in tears. It was so bizarrely nonsensical.

It really is baffling to me why Hogan is such a pathalogical liar, he just constantly spouts a load of shit then when called out on it claims he was misquoted. He even claims he was present when the Undertaker character was given to Mark Calloway but Calloways version of events are totally different to Hogans nonsensical waffle.

He just seems to want to keep himself relevant even if it's at the expense of constantly rewriting history that these days is easily fact checked and makes him look more of an ass. He inserts himself into situations he wasn't present for ( as seen above) and seemingly ALWAYS has a different "recollection" of events to everyone else. I'm amazed he hasn't claimed he slammed an 800lb Andre in WCW after forming DX.

It's got to a point where nomatter what he says you just have to assume it's either a lie or has been "revised" heavily so it somehow comes out in his favour if it's a story. It's pretty sad at this point, a 68 year old man constantly revising history to his favour when anyone can google what he says and the bullshit klaxon sounds loudly with the results.

[xrodmuc316]

Pretty sure AEW beat Raw 18-34 as well.

So... maybe not.

Sorry, miswrote my take pretty badly! Meant to make the point that AEW only cares about the 18-34 demo when it is convenient since they dont win that one typically. The bragging about the young adult demo (18-49) but not bragging about the even younger demo is cherry picking at it's finest.

That is the demo Raw got hit hardest by MNF, 18-34.

[#1-norm-fan]

Why WOULD they “brag” about a demo they don’t win?

They (or the wrestling journalist) hype the areas that they succeed in. Like every company in the world.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s still spin. People are allowed to point out the logic in bragging about that sort of thing and calling it a “win.”

[#1-norm-fan]

Always felt it was very illogical in sports when teams celebrate scoring but conveniently DON’T celebrate when the other team scores.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not an accurate comparison. It’s like kicking in a field goal in the first half and acting like you’ve won the game.

So many things can be said about the ratings. From them being archaic and inaccurate, to the further diversity of the audiences — in terms of both demographics and scope. Bragging about getting a 0.44 in an arbitrary age group that most people don’t even pay attention to in 2021 is honestly more being a mark for the Observer than anything.

[M-A-G]

It really is baffling to me why Hogan is such a pathalogical liar, he just constantly spouts a load of shit then when called out on it claims he was misquoted. He even claims he was present when the Undertaker character was given to Mark Calloway but Calloways version of events are totally different to Hogans nonsensical waffle.

He just seems to want to keep himself relevant even if it's at the expense of constantly rewriting history that these days is easily fact checked and makes him look more of an ass. He inserts himself into situations he wasn't present for ( as seen above) and seemingly ALWAYS has a different "recollection" of events to everyone else. I'm amazed he hasn't claimed he slammed an 800lb Andre in WCW after forming DX.

It's got to a point where nomatter what he says you just have to assume it's either a lie or has been "revised" heavily so it somehow comes out in his favour if it's a story. It's pretty sad at this point, a 68 year old man constantly revising history to his favour when anyone can google what he says and the bullshit klaxon sounds loudly with the results.

The thing is he doesn't even have to lie about things like that. He's one of the biggest stars in the business and has lived a long and interesting life with the adoration of fans who will excuse all of his shortcomings no matter what. You'd think that'd be enough.

[xrodmuc316]

Why WOULD they “brag” about a demo they don’t win?

They (or the wrestling journalist) hype the areas that they succeed in. Like every company in the world.

You are absolutely right, they wouldnt, but they do use the 18-49 demo to support the narrative that they have a younger audience. Its fine, but its just not entirely true.

[Gerard]

The thing is he doesn't even have to lie about things like that. He's one of the biggest stars in the business and has lived a long and interesting life with the adoration of fans who will excuse all of his shortcomings no matter what. You'd think that'd be enough.

Apparently not, just has to trot out more fabricated stories people can roll their eyes at. :-\ I'm eagerly awaiting the tale of him gorilla pressing a 2000lb Yokozuna with one hand. About the only real heavy wrestler he never actually slammed as nobody that did it ever really came close to making it look like a slam, so much girth and weight involved their arms weren't long enough to do it properly.

[Stu Hart]

WHY IM A LEGEND

Someone chatting to Stu. Stu says, “my son Owen is the 2nd best high flyer in the world, the only one who can touch him is (this is the other part I can’t remember, it was a Japanese wrestler)”.

The guys looked a bit puzzled and said “Well, Stu, forgotten wrestler retired 15 years ago”.

Stu looked at them expressionless for a few moments. He then said “my son Owen is the best high flyer in the world, no one can touch him”

[slik]

raw bounced up from last week's 1.67 million. This week saw 1.79 million viewers.

[Bad News Gertner]

So today I learned that John Tenta used Jericho's "Evenflow" theme before Jericho did

Tjrk1F7HkTk

[Supreme Olajuwon]

It’s like Pat Tanaka using Goldberg’s theme first. Not quite as menacing.

[Bad News Gertner]

Former TPWW poster Fourfifty making an appearance.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hope this person follows this account. <a href="https://t.co/kZFgwk7JSg">pic.twitter.com/kZFgwk7JSg</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1440026354746023945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Tom Guycott]

So today I learned that John Tenta used Jericho's "Evenflow" theme before Jericho did

Tjrk1F7HkTk

It’s like Pat Tanaka using Goldberg’s theme first. Not quite as menacing.

At the same time, though, every bitch and their brother used "Satan's Sister" before AND after them in WCW, since that was apparently near the top of the list to cue up, but everyone remembers it as the theme of The Hollywood Blondes.

[Tom Guycott]

Apparently not, just has to trot out more fabricated stories people can roll their eyes at. :-\ I'm eagerly awaiting the tale of him gorilla pressing a 2000lb Yokozuna with one hand. About the only real heavy wrestler he never actually slammed as nobody that did it ever really came close to making it look like a slam, so much girth and weight involved their arms weren't long enough to do it properly.

Being fair, his whoppers have also benefitted him, such as his GAWKER lawsuit where he claimed Hulk Hogan's dick was bigger than Terry Bollea's.

I wonder, though, if there's something legitimately wrong with him. I mean, some actual mental deterioration. I say that because some of these stories he's told ages ago, or have been rumored or alleged, but they haven't been nearly stretched and fabricated to the point where they are now. Things he's heard about turned into events he's witnessed firsthand. Documented things he has done have progressively gotten grander and grander with the passage of time not merely because he's a habitual liar, but because there is some sort of illness or debilitation that makes him actually believe it happened that way now.

Or maybe he's trying to spin some real-life yarn and hoping to be understood by his family like the movie Big Fish. Though, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if Hogan said he wrote that script.

[Gerard]

Being fair, his whoppers have also benefitted him, such as his GAWKER lawsuit where he claimed Hulk Hogan's dick was bigger than Terry Bollea's.

I wonder, though, if there's something legitimately wrong with him. I mean, some actual mental deterioration. I say that because some of these stories he's told ages ago, or have been rumored or alleged, but they haven't been nearly stretched and fabricated to the point where they are now. Things he's heard about turned into events he's witnessed firsthand. Documented things he has done have progressively gotten grander and grander with the passage of time not merely because he's a habitual liar, but because there is some sort of illness or debilitation that makes him actually believe it happened that way now.

Or maybe he's trying to spin some real-life yarn and hoping to be understood by his family like the movie Big Fish. Though, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if Hogan said he wrote that script.


Wouldn't surprise me if there was some deteoration there, but i think it's more down to him just being a habitual liar. Back in the 70's 80's and 90's you could say almost anything and get away with it as fact checking was much harder, these days with the internet you can debunk something in seconds. Hogan has just been in the habit of exagerrating and lying for decades so it's literally a kneejerk thing for him to do, it's like the lie passes his lips before he even considers the question.

So naturally these days people can look something up that he claims and come to a conclusion about it pretty quick. It's like he's clueless about how quick people can look things up and he still thinks its 1984.

[Gerard]

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It takes Hogan an hour and a half to stand up straight, apparently. I just envisaage him hulking up numerous times in that time period and failing repeatedly, falling down and selling the back whilst shouting "NOO BROTHERRRR".

[Emperor Smeat]

Bryan Danielson: When I Eat An Apple, I'm Essentially Eating Tree Sperm; Most Fruits Are Semen

Bryan Danielson adheres to a plant-based diet and would have people in WWE catering make him Vegan meals for years.

Danielson says he doesn't eat eggs or cheese, but he does eat fruits. Including an apple.

Appearing on Barstool's The Yak, Bryan gave his thoughts on apples.

"As I tend towards a vegan diet and people say all sorts of things about a vegan diet, I find it really fascinating that nobody really brings this up; if you eat an apple -- people say, 'Oh, you kill plants.' No, I don't really kill plants. When I eat an apple, the tree doesn't die. Essentially, I'm eating the tree's sperm. I'm eating the sperm. It's tree semen. That's how they reproduce other trees. Most fruits are semen. Real fruits are semen because they contain the seed inside of them. In theory, that has to be planted into the ground for another tree to grow," he said.

Do with that information what you will and remember it the next time you're eating a fruit.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Superstar Billy Graham & his wife, he is currently hospitalized due to him suffering recent heart and lung related health issues.

Eldridge Wayne Coleman, 78, better known as Superstar Billy Graham, has been hospitalized this past week with heart issues.

Graham was one of the top two drawing heels in pro wrestling during the 1970s, behind only The Sheik, and held the WWWF championship in 1977-78. His interviews were copied by some of the biggest stars of that era, including Jesse Ventura, Hulk Hogan, Austin Idol, Dusty Rhodes, Gino Hernandez and countless others. His record of 95 percent sellouts (19 of 20) in Madison Square Garden main events is the highest in the history of the building.

On Sunday he wrote, "Hi fans, There will be no wrestling post tonight. Just this statement from me. I am currently having heart problems which is the title of this message. I am getting ready to go to the Mayo Clinic to be checked out. I am not feeling well and if the hospital admits me, which I am sure they will for future testing tomorrow, I will have Mike, my FB Administrator, give you an update. Superstar B. G.”

Valerie Coleman, his wife, later said that he was suffering from heart issues and fluid in the lungs.

Last night she wrote, "The fluid is coming off slow but every little bit helps. Still in afib as well. They are doubling his diuretic dose for 3 days to see if that works….can’t do more because it can damage his kidneys. The prayers and support are very much appreciated. Thank you!”

[Bad News Gertner]

Billy Graham is on his 28th life by now. He'll probably make through like usual

[Gerard]

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Hold the fuck on, have i somehow crossed an interdimensional barrier to a parallel universe where Hogan can tell the truth on occasion? :eek::eek::eek:

[fundiddle]

i think when you believe your own bullshit, there's no guilt in admitting you're a scoundrel

[GD]

I have no memory of this.

RVD scored a pinfall victory over World (Heavyweight) Champion Rey Mysterio before his match against John Cena for the WWE Championship. Talk about playing second fiddle...

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[Jordan]

I remember that. This was really around the time WWE started shit booking their way to what they are now.

[Bad News Gertner]

Hulk Hogan, Don Muraco and Mr. Fuji on a 1985 Soap Opera "Search for Tomorrow".

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[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is currently working on several ideas and plans for next year's WrestleMania 38 weekend in Dallas.

Besides the idea to do another two-day event, they are also consider the idea of holding WrestleMania 38 as just a regular one day show but would hold the next night's RAW in the stadium as well.

In regards to SmackDown's go-home show, WWE is currently considering holding it in a different city due to American Airlines Center being booked for something else that night.

Regarding WrestleMania this year in Dallas, WWE contacted AT&amp;T Stadium with several different potential ideas including the two-day Mania that has been talked about. Right now that is under consideration but not a done deal, but logically it makes sense. The different ideas they approached the stadium with was a Sunday Mania and Monday Raw at the stadium with a 40,000-seat set up. They also brought up doing both Saturday and Sunday Mania and were looking into planning, security, insurance, cost of production, length of the event two days vs. one day and other locations for shows that weekend. Smackdown right now can’t be held at the American Airlines Center in Dallas because the Mavericks have the date. Often the Smackdown before Mania is taped ahead anyway so talent can get into town, but on FOX maybe they don’t want to do that this year. They are also looking at Gerald Ford Stadium, which holds 32,000, as a possible home for Smackdown and Raw because they expect so many tourists in town for the weekend

[fundiddle]

came upon this from an old Q&A that Super Dragon did, never knew this


Q: BigBen213 wrote: Are there any matches that you wish could have been done in PWG but never got the chance to make happen?
A: I really wanted to do Kurt Angle vs Danielson when Angle got released. I had him booked and everything. Then TNA pulled canceled it, and said he is not taking indy bookings in the end. Was looking into running a bigger venue for that one as well.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Sepholio]

So Matt Cardona wanted to invoke his GCW title rematch clause and insert himself into the upcoming Moxley v Nick Gage title match. He was informed he'd have to earn the spot by defending his Internet Championship belt.

He was promptly rolled up by Effy in about -7 seconds and lost the Internet title.

[ron the dial]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAGAOwpVQAYx4SF?format=jpg&name=large

[ron the dial]

or my personal favorite

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAIvIHgVQAMAGj_?format=jpg&name=large

[Gerard]

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Think he's reaching a bit calling that a closet...other wrestlers also came out of the same box.

[#1-norm-fan]

I also don’t believe it was Vince’s idea to have him dress up like Boy George simply because I don’t think Vince knows who Boy George is.

[Stu Hart]

https://i.ibb.co/HTC0tHk/bret.jpg (https://ibb.co/HTC0tHk)

[Stu Hart]

this guy should have interviewed Kanyon
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[Emperor Smeat]

According to Fightful Select, WWE recently held several high-level meetings with FOX to discuss a variety of things and plans.

Based on their sources from the FOX side, the network hasn't been that happy over SmackDown's ratings compared to expectations and WWE's constant promotion of NBC's rival Peacock streaming service but its also not at a level where it could seriously affect WWE's standing with FOX when it comes to the next tv contracts talks.

Same for FOX's boss not being too fond of Vince McMahon's upcoming television series since it likely will be portraying him in a negative light but also not something right now where it could negatively impact WWE's next tv contracts talks.

WWE has reportedly had several high-level meetings with FOX officials as of late, with new details of the two companies’ relationship made available. Fightful Select has a lengthy report discussing the relationship between the wrestling company and network, which notes that Vince McMahon and Nick Khan met with FOX Sports CEO Eric Shanks and FS Head of Production Brad Zager on the night before SummerSlam.

According to the report, which notes that they have spoken with reps and sources from “many levels” in WWE, FOX, FOX Sports, NBCU, Peacock and USA Network. It makes clear that the sources don’t represent Fox, NBC Universal, Peacock, Tubi, The USA Network or WWE as a whole.

According to the report, while a source at FOX has acknowledged that WWE’s viewership for Smackdown have been disappointing compared to their expectations, that’s been difficult to gauge for sure due to the pandemic being in effect for much of that relationship. Sources from both sides pointed out that Smackdown is still the most watched wrestling TV show in the world.

While one FOX source said that the network has not been incredibly pleased with constantly promoting Peacock, several sources said that it hasn’t been a serious issue. Sources on both sides noted that WWE talent have been heavily featured on FOX, FOX Sports and the like to promote SummerSlam, which is prime programming for FOX. It was also noted by a WWE source that if FOX wanted the PPV content, they could have paid the price that Peacock ultimately did.

It was also noted Fightful’s FOX source that discussed the ratings numbers that the news that Rupert Murdoch will likely be portrayed in a negative way in the upcoming scripted series about Vince McMahon is a “childish move” that won’t help the WWE/FOX relationship. Murdoch had met with Stephanie McMahon, Triple H and others in May 2018 to lure WWE’s programming from USA.

However, it was also said that Vince McMahon has had a conversation with Murdoch in recent months and the topic wasn’t broached, with the relationship between the two families being “one of great respect.”

FOX has felt that WWE bringing back John Cena, Brock Lesnar and Becky Lynch has shown an effort to go above and beyond in stacking up the roster since fans returned to live events.

Regarding the WWE/FOX meetings, the two sides reportedly met during SummerSlam for about four hours and it was said from WWE’s side to have been productive. McMahon and Khan have decided to nix a discussed Raw at the Staples Center in Los Angeles in order to appease FOX so that the first show in the city for WWE can be the December 10th Smackdown, which is expected to be announced shortly.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’m interested to see how much leverage WWE has when their current deals are up. Yes they are absolutely worth more than AEW from a TV rights and content standpoint. But how much more? If AEW is regularly pulling 1m views or more Wednesday nights, what is going to compel any TV network to pay what Vince is currently getting for rights? I’d imagine still more than AEW but how much more?

[Mr. Nerfect]

According to Fightful Select, WWE recently held several high-level meetings with FOX to discuss a variety of things and plans.

Based on their sources from the FOX side, the network hasn't been that happy over SmackDown's ratings compared to expectations and WWE's constant promotion of NBC's rival Peacock streaming service but its also not at a level where it could seriously affect WWE's standing with FOX when it comes to the next tv contracts talks.

Same for FOX's boss not being too fond of Vince McMahon's upcoming television series since it likely will be portraying him in a negative light but also not something right now where it could negatively impact WWE's next tv contracts talks.

Lol, FOX knew what they were getting into, you moron. They knew they had business partners in NBC Universal. This stuff is such bullshit, and even admits it’s bullshit, yet you still lap it up.

According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is currently working on several ideas and plans for next year's WrestleMania 38 weekend in Dallas.

Besides the idea to do another two-day event, they are also consider the idea of holding WrestleMania 38 as just a regular one day show but would hold the next night's RAW in the stadium as well.

In regards to SmackDown's go-home show, WWE is currently considering holding it in a different city due to American Airlines Center being booked for something else that night.

WrestleMania is either going to be a one day show or a two day show, and it’s going to be held in a big building. Great scoop there, ace.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friday vibes. <a href="https://t.co/13FOoC6mB9">pic.twitter.com/13FOoC6mB9</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1441450622738370562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DAMN iNATOR]

According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is currently working on several ideas and plans for next year's WrestleMania 38 weekend in Dallas.

Besides the idea to do another two-day event, they are also consider the idea of holding WrestleMania 38 as just a regular one day show but would hold the next night's RAW in the stadium as well.

In regards to SmackDown's go-home show, WWE is currently considering holding it in a different city due to American Airlines Center being booked for something else that night.

The only thing that matters is if the Iron Shiek actually makes it to the ring for the WM X-7 Gimmick Battle Royal by the time the main show of WrestleMania 38 starts.

[Gerard]

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[Triple A]

https://i.imgur.com/8kdEu2H.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This incredible moment happened ten years ago today. �� <a href="https://t.co/DMLVQ8aB47">pic.twitter.com/DMLVQ8aB47</a></p>&mdash; Fiending For Followers ‼️ (@Fiend4FolIows) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fiend4FolIows/status/1442166496646602753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Kane and Chris Jericho had a love child <a href="https://t.co/vGW2PPVHNi">pic.twitter.com/vGW2PPVHNi</a></p>&mdash; I T S P H I L R E A L T O M E ���� (@ItsPhilRealToMe) <a href="https://twitter.com/ItsPhilRealToMe/status/1441831989942706178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Former WWE wrestler Ryan Sakoda passed away at age 46.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ex WWE Star Ryan Sakoda Passes Away At 46-Years-Old <a href="https://t.co/bTOM7GheoP">https://t.co/bTOM7GheoP</a></p>&mdash; Ringside News (@ringsidenews_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ringsidenews_/status/1442635290150113280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Kane and Chris Jericho had a love child <a href="https://t.co/vGW2PPVHNi">pic.twitter.com/vGW2PPVHNi</a></p>&mdash; I T S P H I L R E A L T O M E ���� (@ItsPhilRealToMe) <a href="https://twitter.com/ItsPhilRealToMe/status/1441831989942706178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So Joey Janella is the love child

[Emperor Smeat]

Is there an actual kayfabe reason or wrestling logic reason for the difference between a wrestler putting their nickname in the front of their ring name compared to putting it in the middle of their name? Or is the difference just simply a cosmetic choice?

Was watching RAW earlier and had the thought pop up when Keith Lee showed up under his new "Bearcat" nickname. In Lee's case, his new nickname was in the middle of his ring name.

[XL]

I think it would have worked better as “Bearcat” Keith Lee, seems odd with it in the middle. Probably moot as he’ll just be “Bearcat” by the end of the year.

I guess it comes down to how it rolls off the tongue. There are instances where both have been used; Bret “(The) Hitman” Hart/“The Hitman” Bret Hart and Randy “Macho Man” Savage/“Macho Man” Randy Savage are 2 that come to mind.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Kane and Chris Jericho had a love child <a href="https://t.co/vGW2PPVHNi">pic.twitter.com/vGW2PPVHNi</a></p>&mdash; I T S P H I L R E A L T O M E ���� (@ItsPhilRealToMe) <a href="https://twitter.com/ItsPhilRealToMe/status/1441831989942706178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

weird ad

why can't Wayne baked brownies and get vaxxed, why does he have to choose

[Gerard]

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It had to be bad to get these hicks to boo.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Street Fighter: The Movie truly lives on in AEW talent <a href="https://t.co/khnlVjxCi6">pic.twitter.com/khnlVjxCi6</a></p>&mdash; Will Washington  (@WilliamRBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WilliamRBR/status/1438531786926018567?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Street Fighter The Move might have been horrible as a video game-based film but its one of those films that I ended up liking more than not even after all of these years. The original Mortal Kombat film is still the best video game based film of the 90s and 2000s.

[Gerard]

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Now we know where Reigns got his "head of the table" slogan from.




:shifty:

Also, Hogan with a powerbomb? :wtf:

[Gerard]

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ouch

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Favorite powerbomb ever was Nash on Orton at the summer slam chamber match. The sickening thud personified.

[Lock Jaw]

Favorite powerbomb ever was Nash on Orrin at the summer slam chamber match. The iOS sickening thud personified.

How often you type Orrin?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

How often you type Orrin?

God dammit

[Tom Guycott]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Street Fighter: The Movie truly lives on in AEW talent <a href="https://t.co/khnlVjxCi6">pic.twitter.com/khnlVjxCi6</a></p>&mdash; Will Washington  (@WilliamRBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WilliamRBR/status/1438531786926018567?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Street Fighter The Move might have been horrible as a video game-based film but its one of those films that I ended up liking more than not even after all of these years. The original Mortal Kombat film is still the best video game based film of the 90s and 2000s.

Needs Miro saying "QUICK, CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!" and someone slowly turning to look at him like the biggest fucking moron.

[Gerard]

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How have i not seen this before? Around 4 fans rush the ring, one performs a rock bottom on another and cena (from a distance) counts the fall. :lol:

[Jordan]

Oh my god that guys laugh.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lmao

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Much like us all, Scott Norton also seemed confused by how Dave Burkhead ran the ropes. <a href="https://t.co/DWpUBsWO58">pic.twitter.com/DWpUBsWO58</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1442528464389632009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

good lord.....

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol he had graduated from the Power Plant two years prior

[drave]

two fucking years? Jesus, running ropes is one of the first god damn things you are taught.

[Sepholio]

Lol I somehow remember watching that clip live back in the day

[Bad News Gertner]

So because I have no life and my gf works opposite shifts, I went and watched all the WCW Prime, Pro, Worldwide and Saturday Night comps from 96-98 on youtube.

The Power Plant guys doing jobs on these shows are SO fucking rotten.


Here's Adrian Byrd who had been wrestling for 3 years at this point. LMAO @ the finish.


foHYV33b_HM

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Yeah but, 2011 was the last full year of 2-hour episodes before the permanent move to 3 hours--&quot;<br><br>Prefer 2013, first full year of 3 hours? <br>4,235,000. <br>2021 is -58%.<br><br>&quot;Yeah but since the return to touring--&quot;<br><br>Sep 2021 average: 1,755,000<br>-58% vs. 2013<br>-64% vs. 2011</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1443311390761132039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

The honeymoon is over

I did enjoy the Dexter Lumis/Indi Hartwell skits I watched on DVR


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT ranked #32 on the day on cable in the demo, according to Showbuzz Daily.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1443306258552041480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’m stunned a continually dwindling product that in no way rewards your loyalty or investment as a fan is losing viewership in droves. It makes Roman’s seemingly company fed line about moving the needle look even dumber as 2011-2013 was Punk’s peak and the company had part and full time stars all over the place, whereas now they have just one; Roman. They’ve lost what, 60+% of their audience in the last decade?

That Triple H promo on Raw about Mark not watching anymore looks really tone deaf in hindsight since that’s exactly what has happened.

[Emperor Smeat]

The honeymoon is over

I did enjoy the Dexter Lumis/Indi Hartwell skits I watched on DVR


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT ranked #32 on the day on cable in the demo, according to Showbuzz Daily.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1443306258552041480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah the InDex Honeymoon skits and Bron Breakker's newest Steiner style promo were the only really interesting stuff about last night's NXT show.

Johnny Gargano's reaction to Dexter Lumis pulling out a long stack of condoms from his pocket while giving the dead eyes look thumbs up to him was funny.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Breakker sounds just like uncle Scott. I mean, close your eyes and it ain’t close. Please they need to call him Rex Steiner and push his ass to the fucking moon.

[fundiddle]

So because I have no life and my gf works opposite shifts, I went and watched all the WCW Prime, Pro, Worldwide and Saturday Night comps from 96-98 on youtube.

The Power Plant guys doing jobs on these shows are SO fucking rotten.


Here's Adrian Byrd who had been wrestling for 3 years at this point. LMAO @ the finish.


foHYV33b_HM
"Adrian will never forget this day!"


and how :)

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems something big recently went down behind the scenes in WWE regarding Shane McMahon.

Recent rumors around the net hint that he left the company but Fightful's sources stated that he's still under contract but also admitted that he's rarely been showing up to work in recent times.

For some reference, his return to the company a few years ago was part of a larger power struggle behind the scenes at the time between Triple H & his camp and Kevin Dunn & his camp. Dunn & others pushed for Shane to return in order for him to supplant Triple H as the successor to Vince since Triple H didn't hide it at all that he was going to fire them once he took over. If I remember correctly, Shane went along with it because he still held some resentment with Triple H over his departure the first time.

[GD]

I vaguely remember watching a Network special where Shane McMahon was very reserved in terms of what he wanted to share about Triple H. Something along the lines of he makes Stephanie happy and that's all that matters.

[screech]

Kevin Dunn not being in charge of the cameras would be a good thing.

[Jordan]

Well I lived through the best day of NXT and that was Triple H's team so I am on Team Pedigree. Someone needs to cut the wires on the next elevator ride that Vince and Kevin Dunn share together.

[James Steele]

https://talksport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/05/triple-h-gorilla.png?strip=all&w=600&quality=100

[drave]

Well I lived through the best day of NXT and that was Triple H's team so I am on Team Pedigree. Someone needs to cut the wires on the next elevator ride that Vince and Kevin Dunn share together.




This.

[drave]

Let's talk about what really matters though, and that's the ratings.




HHH will bring more ratings because one time a cloud blew over the demo of the US and it didn't rain. Then a giraffe in the plains of Oklahoma looked down for the first time, and tied its shoes. There were commercials about Snickers and Taki sticks, which made the ratings tank because US viewers can't read.


Then, Michael PS Hayes had a picture of said giraffe stuck in his ass during an earthquake, as a Lockerroom Court sentence, and finally admitted to his love for BBC Pegging and the ratings were alright again.

[GD]

I vaguely remember watching a Network special where Shane McMahon was very reserved in terms of what he wanted to share about Triple H. Something along the lines of he makes Stephanie happy and that's all that matters.

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[Gerard]

he makes Stephanie happy and that's all that matters.

Pretty much anyone with a dick could, OOOOOOH YEEAAAAHHHH

https://i.imgur.com/ZPuN5Mi.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Big E. getting his match against Goldberg? �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/UW8ogusEqR">pic.twitter.com/UW8ogusEqR</a></p>&mdash; 2 Sweet Podcast (@2SweetPod) <a href="https://twitter.com/2SweetPod/status/1442665727425753090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5N4DdccNXJg" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:wtf:

[Evil Vito]

Juice Robinson put a ring on Toni Storm.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scott Norton could throw people like softballs. <a href="https://t.co/oJOQNl76or">pic.twitter.com/oJOQNl76or</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1443769273751674880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

Juice Robinson put a ring on Toni Storm.

Sorry Fignuts.

[drave]

would legit hire a young Scott Norton for personal security in another life.

[Bad News Gertner]

New Host of "Talking Smack" and "Raw Talk" Jackie Redmond. She was on the same station and Renee Paquette (The Score/Sportsnet 360). She'll do a good job. She hosted a bunch of Wrestling Shows on those stations with Jimmy Korderas so she has product knowledge.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE welcomes <a href="https://twitter.com/Jackie_Redmond?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Jackie_Redmond</a> as new co-host of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RawTalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RawTalk</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TalkingSmack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TalkingSmack</a>!<a href="https://t.co/NlrvblGpa3">https://t.co/NlrvblGpa3</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1443944036721639438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Ohhh yeah, I remember her now. She pretty much became the new Renee Paquette after Renee left The Score.

[Gerard]

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:lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a finish <a href="https://t.co/jALtK95gpG">https://t.co/jALtK95gpG</a></p>&mdash; Arn Anderson (@TheArnShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheArnShow/status/1443925191734796334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="932" height="699" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sUw6OYceV2w" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Gerard]

Random thought of the day, how was an inverted atomic drop never considered to be a low blow? :wtf:

[slik]

I always forget Dolphin was in the spirit squad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDayInWWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDayInWWE</a> 15 years ago, <a href="https://twitter.com/HEELZiggler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HEELZiggler</a> took on <a href="https://twitter.com/_SgtSlaughter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_SgtSlaughter</a>, on the orders of DX<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://t.co/WltNolt4mV">pic.twitter.com/WltNolt4mV</a></p>&mdash; On This Day in WWE (@OTD_in_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTD_in_WWE/status/1444341276921540608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WTyBK0w90T0" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

A single german suplex is now enough to keep someone down for a few minutes.

[Lock Jaw]

Amazing how simultaneously WWE looks like 50x better than AEW in terms of production (lighting, camera colours, sound), and worse (due to having that better look but then ruining it via frantic camera moves/cuts/zooms)

[Gerard]

Amazing how simultaneously WWE looks like 50x better than AEW in terms of production (lighting, camera colours, sound), and worse (due to having that better look but then ruining it via frantic camera moves/cuts/zooms)


Blame Dunn, he has camera men flinging cameras about like its going out of fashion. It's great when someone gets battered with chair and the camera goes up and down and up and down, fucking moronic.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A single german suplex is now enough to keep someone down for a few minutes.

Good.

[Emperor Smeat]

Amazing how simultaneously WWE looks like 50x better than AEW in terms of production (lighting, camera colours, sound), and worse (due to having that better look but then ruining it via frantic camera moves/cuts/zooms)

Having a huge budget and decades of high-level experience compared to your competition helps a lot but yeah, they also ruin a lot of that advantage because Kevin Dunn has been awful for years being in charge of it.

Only thing Dunn hasn't managed to screw up over the years is video packages since those are still the best thing about WWE's production for shows.

Even ROH and Impact have paled in comparison for years because their production budgets and staff are tiny compared to WWE.

[Nicky Fives]

Random thought of the day, how was an inverted atomic drop never considered to be a low blow? :wtf:

Targets the tailbone, not the groin.

[Gerard]

Targets the tailbone, not the groin.

Yeah but the old teabag dangles around that area, wouldn’t take much for it to take a wallop.

[Vastardikai]

Random thought of the day, how was an inverted atomic drop never considered to be a low blow? :wtf:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yo0DLxl7okA" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wonder if Chad Gable leaves WWE? If he sticks around, what are they going to do with his name? You can’t have Chad Gable around when Gable Steveson shows up. My bet is that he goes by Chad Alpha or something. I hope Vince doesn’t get a hold on his last name being Betts and goes with Alpha Betts as a ring name.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE completely no-sells AEW’s entire existence, but if they wanted to do something to smash them, a working agreement with ROH would be pretty sweet. Send guys you don’t have much going on with there and let that be an outlet for their more creative impulses.

[Emperor Smeat]

ROH would be dumb to even consider that idea considering WWE's recent track record with partnerships and potential partnerships has been awful for the other side.

EVOLVE had that type pf talent exchange with NXT and they got burned badly with it in the long run.

NJPW saw through that idea and realized a partnership with WWE was just going to open the door to WWE snagging their big name stars a lot more easier than before.

[Sepholio]

Wonder if Chad Gable leaves WWE? If he sticks around, what are they going to do with his name? You can’t have Chad Gable around when Gable Steveson shows up. My bet is that he goes by Chad Alpha or something. I hope Vince doesn’t get a hold on his last name being Betts and goes with Alpha Betts as a ring name.

They will change Stevenson to Steven Gable and have him and Chad be half or step brothers.

[Mr. Nerfect]

ROH would be dumb to even consider that idea considering WWE's recent track record with partnerships and potential partnerships has been awful for the other side.

EVOLVE had that type pf talent exchange with NXT and they got burned badly with it in the long run.

NJPW saw through that idea and realized a partnership with WWE was just going to open the door to WWE snagging their big name stars a lot more easier than before.

Lol, this is the mindless internet spin. WWE will be excellent partners when the relationship is beneficial to them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They will change Stevenson to Steven Gable to and have him and Chad be half or step brothers.

Holy shit, as terrible as that obviously is, it does sound hilarious.

You’ve also got Bobby Steveson under contract. Does he interact with Bobby Lashley? You would have Chad Gable, Gable Steveson, Bobby Steveson and Bobby Lashley.

“You’re now Robert Gable, pal.” And Robert Roode’s new name is Preston Roode for some reason.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wonder what Cain Velasquez’s relationship with the WWE is like. They cut him because of Covid, but has there been any word if he has kept at it or not? And what is the contract status of Ronda Rousey?

[Emperor Smeat]

Lol, this is the mindless internet spin. WWE will be excellent partners when the relationship is beneficial to them.

How is it "mindless internet spin" when that's what happened to all of their partners and would-be partners in recent years.

Partial list:

EVOLVE - Talent exchange of sorts that got worse for EVOLVE the longer their partnership with WWE lasted. WWE got to use any of EVOLVE's top stars whenever they wanted while the biggest name EVOLVE got to use on a regular basis was Kona Reeves. Got hit with the poison pill clause the moment WWE didn't bother to help them out early into the coronavirus pandemic and owner Gabriel Sapolsky pulling an ECW era Paul Heyman by bailing on the company the moment he got a job within WWE secured.

Stardom - Would have shut down and been absorbed into NXT Japan had they signed a partnership deal.

Pro Wrestling NOAH - Same fate as Stardom had they signed a partnership deal.

PROGRESS Wrestling - Talent exchange that was just as one-sided as EVOLVE's was but with the add caveat of WWE treating them worse than their actual rival in the UK, RevPro Wrestling. Not even AEW got treated as bad by WWE as what they did with PROGRESS pre-pandemic.

Rest of WWE's UK & European partners - All have poison pill terms in their partnership deals so WWE can buy out their companies in the end. If EVOLVE is any indication, WWE will just sit back when those companies are in very dire financial situations and just pick up some really cheap libraries and talent instead of maintaining a healthy relationship that would be beneficial to their partners.

Impact Wrestling - Never actually wanted a partnership. Just wanted their library and would have shut down the company had a deal been signed.

NJPW - Would have led to the end of all of their partnerships in the US and likely the end of their US expansion plans. Some rumblings that NJPW World might have been merged into WWE Network as part of the terms. Talent exchange that would have been very one sided and was speculated from those in Japan to just be WWE's way of getting easy access to top NJPW talent so they could sign them up later and get rid of the biggest rival for their NXT expansion into Japan.

CMLL - Similar type deal as NJPW that would have seen the end of all of their partnerships and just an easy way for WWE to snag CMLL's top talent and get rid of one of the two big rivals for a potential NXT Mexico.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmaooo truth is internet spin now.

[Emperor Smeat]

Guess so these days if it goes against whatever views or preconceived notions one might have towards wrestling.

Same for something that gets dismissed as being truthful suddenly becomes the truth if it fits into whatever narrative someone has about it. Doesn't matter if nothing about the actual matter or issue changed. Ratings talk being the biggest example of it around here.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, outside of one of two of those, those examples NEVER HAPPENED. Nice try, Smeat.

Anti-WWE bias projects a destructive nature onto them. Yeah, Vince made some shady dealings he went back on back in the day when expanding. Yeah, when he used a bunch of Mexican talent in 1997 or whenever, he didn’t really do much with it. But the WWF has had lots of fruitful business relationships in the wrestling context. Especially in recent years, where they have brought in talent from all across the world for NXT on a couple of different occasions.

You want the WWE to be this chaotic mess in even an organizational sense because it makes for a zany narrative. But it just isn’t the case that a machine like that CAN’T work with other people. It doesn’t mean they will. But it doesn’t mean they can’t. If Vince saw the value in it, then he absolutely could work with someone, especially if it hurt someone he didn’t want to work with.

[Emperor Smeat]

CMLL - https://cultaholic.com/posts/wwe-reportedly-tried-to-buy-cmll , https://www.itnwwe.com/wrestling/wwe-cmll-talks-wwe-network/

Stardom - https://411mania.com/wrestling/more-details-on-wwes-attempt-to-buy-stardom/

Pro Wrestling NOAH - https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/10/wwe-reportedly-tried-to-purchase-pro-wrestling-noah-for-new-660807/

I'd go on but I'm currently very busying with a report for the Frontpage that's going to take way more time to finish.

[xrodmuc316]

New Host of "Talking Smack" and "Raw Talk" Jackie Redmond. She was on the same station and Renee Paquette (The Score/Sportsnet 360). She'll do a good job. She hosted a bunch of Wrestling Shows on those stations with Jimmy Korderas so she has product knowledge.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE welcomes <a href="https://twitter.com/Jackie_Redmond?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Jackie_Redmond</a> as new co-host of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RawTalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RawTalk</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TalkingSmack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TalkingSmack</a>!<a href="https://t.co/NlrvblGpa3">https://t.co/NlrvblGpa3</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1443944036721639438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully this time WWE wont let the talented announcer marry some bitter midcarder. :lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

CMLL - https://cultaholic.com/posts/wwe-reportedly-tried-to-buy-cmll , https://www.itnwwe.com/wrestling/wwe-cmll-talks-wwe-network/

Stardom - https://411mania.com/wrestling/more-details-on-wwes-attempt-to-buy-stardom/

Pro Wrestling NOAH - https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/10/wwe-reportedly-tried-to-purchase-pro-wrestling-noah-for-new-660807/

I'd go on but I'm currently very busying with a report for the Frontpage that's going to take way more time to finish.

This isn’t information. This is opinion. THIS is my issue with the shit you post. It isn’t fact-based. It’s based on supposition you regurgitate as fact to prove a point you cannot prove otherwise.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Emperor Smeat]

This isn’t information. This is opinion. THIS is my issue with the shit you post. It isn’t fact-based. It’s based on supposition you regurgitate as fact to prove a point you cannot prove otherwise.

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

[screech]

"Your facts don't match my opinion so they're wrong!"

[James Steele]

https://i.ibb.co/pRSgRMY/noid.png

[Evil Vito]

Considering how much Noid hates wrestling nowadays, those books must've reeeeeally sucked.

[#1-norm-fan]

Typing rants about wrestling is probably easier on the hands than coloring.

[#1-norm-fan]

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

Come on over to the classic wrestling watch-along thread! No Noid-types and we need a classic wrestling news reporter!

[Bad News Gertner]

Always the promoter

[Damian Rey 2.0]

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

Don’t go. Just mute him. It’s pretty obvs he has no interest in engaging in conversation. He’s just arguing to argue. Mute him and stick with us.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Noid coming off very trumpy. Everybody is wrong, things aren’t good anymore and facts and reports no longer matter if they don’t fit a narrative. Hmmmmm….

[drave]

and reading, or maybe that's just my inner yank thinking about trying to read.






edit: i dunno what happened here. think maybe i didnt read all the new posts.


so tired.

[screech]

Noid coming off very trumpy. Everybody is wrong, things aren’t good anymore and facts and reports no longer matter if they don’t fit a narrative. Hmmmmm….

I've said before that if he's trolling, I'll give a bit of credit for sticking to the gimmick.

If he isn't trolling? It's kinda sad, really.

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UBS Arena, Belmont Park - Long Island, NY<br><br>WWE Raw: Nov 29<br>Tickets Distributed =&gt; 2,737/7234 (38%)<br><br>AEW Dynamite: Dec 08 <br>Tickets Distributed =&gt; 7,318/9,699 (75%) <a href="https://t.co/5UsXI1Sqsj">pic.twitter.com/5UsXI1Sqsj</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTix (@WrestleTix) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTix/status/1444468268115415044?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karl Gotch's comments on Harley Race from 1990 are every Nick Jackson/Shawn Michaels exchange currently going on on this app. <a href="https://t.co/WrfKXf4oa1">pic.twitter.com/WrfKXf4oa1</a></p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1445094855579942916?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[#1-norm-fan]

I’m glad I haven’t seen any of these “Nick Jackson/Shawn Michaels exchanges.”

Just seeing those two names next to each other... I can’t bite my tongue hard enough.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karl Gotch's comments on Harley Race from 1990 are every Nick Jackson/Shawn Michaels exchange currently going on on this app. <a href="https://t.co/WrfKXf4oa1">pic.twitter.com/WrfKXf4oa1</a></p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1445094855579942916?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And it’s turned out to be true. Wrestling has gotten progressively less popular, especially this century. That sort of stuff is common sense. Is Karl Gotch right about Harley Race? Eh, there are degrees to it. But Harley doing a headbutt is way different to a guy throwing magic kicks or whatever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

and reading, or maybe that's just my inner yank thinking about trying to read.






edit: i dunno what happened here. think maybe i didnt read all the new posts.


so tired.

Smeat said ROH would be dumb to work with WWE in response to a hypothetical I posted. His basis for this? His opinion because WWE bad. He then provided a list of “bad partnerships” that never actually happened. They just would have been bad if they had, because WWE bad. And everyone is saying he posts facts because it’s easier than, once again, admitting that Noid was right.

[#1-norm-fan]

I mean, the articles he posted explained why the deals fell through.

If you only want to hear from someone you trust who actually took WWE up on their offer, Cornette’s got some great stories about how wonderful a working agreement with WWE is.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don’t believe me?

How is it "mindless internet spin" when that's what happened to all of their partners and would-be partners in recent years.

Partial list:

EVOLVE - Talent exchange of sorts that got worse for EVOLVE the longer their partnership with WWE lasted. WWE got to use any of EVOLVE's top stars whenever they wanted while the biggest name EVOLVE got to use on a regular basis was Kona Reeves. Got hit with the poison pill clause the moment WWE didn't bother to help them out early into the coronavirus pandemic and owner Gabriel Sapolsky pulling an ECW era Paul Heyman by bailing on the company the moment he got a job within WWE secured.

Stardom - Would have shut down and been absorbed into NXT Japan had they signed a partnership deal.

Pro Wrestling NOAH - Same fate as Stardom had they signed a partnership deal.

PROGRESS Wrestling - Talent exchange that was just as one-sided as EVOLVE's was but with the add caveat of WWE treating them worse than their actual rival in the UK, RevPro Wrestling. Not even AEW got treated as bad by WWE as what they did with PROGRESS pre-pandemic.

Rest of WWE's UK & European partners - All have poison pill terms in their partnership deals so WWE can buy out their companies in the end. If EVOLVE is any indication, WWE will just sit back when those companies are in very dire financial situations and just pick up some really cheap libraries and talent instead of maintaining a healthy relationship that would be beneficial to their partners.

Impact Wrestling - Never actually wanted a partnership. Just wanted their library and would have shut down the company had a deal been signed.

NJPW - Would have led to the end of all of their partnerships in the US and likely the end of their US expansion plans. Some rumblings that NJPW World might have been merged into WWE Network as part of the terms. Talent exchange that would have been very one sided and was speculated from those in Japan to just be WWE's way of getting easy access to top NJPW talent so they could sign them up later and get rid of the biggest rival for their NXT expansion into Japan.

CMLL - Similar type deal as NJPW that would have seen the end of all of their partnerships and just an easy way for WWE to snag CMLL's top talent and get rid of one of the two big rivals for a potential NXT Mexico.

EVOLVE: Got plenty out of the WWE deal. Probably lent on WWE because of bad financial position. The promoter was also working for WWE and basically sold it off to them. This one happened. Is only bad if you wanted EVOLVE to continue to exist as its own entity.

STARDOM: This never happened. STARDOM still exists and never had a partnership with WWE. “They would have been absorbed into NXT Japan” is complete speculative fiction.

NOAH: The same fiction. There were bullshit rumors about the WWE looking to purchase them, because WWE loves acquiring Yakuza fronts. This wasn’t even rumored to be a partnership. And it NEVER HAPPENED. How can you call something that didn’t happen a fact? Or information. If my uncle had bought out Subway they wouldn’t make sandwiches anymore. So not a sandwich shop.

PROGRESS: Small-time British promotion that was basically acquired by WWE, right? UK’s scene madly inflated by newsletter peddlers trying to insist some sort of insurgence. The same people will say that Australia is hot. NO ONE gives a fuck about wrestling here. If PROGRESS had more to offer, it may have been more valuable. But “talent exchanges” that allow a company to stay afloat for longer than it should aren’t exactly a bad thing. Unless you’re expecting the main event of WrestleMania to be sent and a struggling promotion to stay alive based off that.

UK & Europe: So you admit it? These places need WWE more than they can actually offer assistance to them in a lot of cases. These places are staying off execution in many cases. WWE buying them when they can’t stay in business is...business? What is your major issue with this?

TNA: Didn’t happen. Also, TNA has been dead for years. The only thing slightly valuable about them would be lending WWE footage of some guys pre-WWE. Basically Joe and Styles.

New Japan: Another thing that didn’t happen and another case of “would have.” WWE has access to top New Japan talent. They have the opportunity to sign them when their deals are up like anyone else. New Japan World being part of the WWE Network would have been awesome for them. Way more exposure on Peacock now too.

CMLL: Didn’t happen. Also, isn’t this promotion basically dead? So when they’re on their last legs and work with WWE, it’s WWE’s fault. When they don’t work with WWE? WWE’s fault. Seriously, what is even your point?

So, out of a list of facts and information designed to prove that WWE are horrible partners, only two of the promotions you actually named worked with WWE. EVOLVE and Progress. Of those two, it’s a matter of perspective as to whether or not this has been “bad” or not. These promotions may not have lasted anywhere near as long as they did without WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Guys, I’ve got evidence that vaccines don’t work. I know a scientist, right? They didn’t invent a vaccine. They got some water in a syringe. But because that didn’t work, vaccines don’t work. You’d have to be an idiot to get a vaccine.

This is literally the line of logic being played here. It’s not even just made-up evidence—it’s made up off the back of scenarios that never even happened.

WWE didn’t purchase NOAH, or CMLL, or TNA. You can’t just say that they tried and count it. But hey, here on TPWW that’s just “news.” What a steaming pile of crap. And y’all know it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Smeat isn’t reporting the news. He’s taking whatever rumor is running, without citation, and throws it out there without any critical thinking. I used to be softer on this sort of stuff, because in a business of rumor and jealous perspectives, you’re going to end up reporting on what you heard from a shit-kicker somewhere. Someone with a gripe somewhere.

But the issue is when you take that word from the shit-kicker as gospel. Which Smeat does do. WWE was planning to go on a tour clubbing baby seals and spitting on sick puppies? Of course they were. This is fact now. Someone asks if they’re good with pets and it’s “No! Remember the seal clubbing!” It never happened.

Smeat takes it further, because it’s not just bad faith in WWE. That would be understandable. He will post stories that can be dismissed by simply reading them then thinking about them. He does this ALL the time. No, he doesn’t write the stories. Some other dude looking to squeeze a buck out of the naive does. But you can at least be responsible in checking to see if you’re helping someone prey on others or not.

At least Smeat does take their bullshit from behind paywalls and gets in the way of them making a buck. But that’s not why he does it. It’s just an unintentional side effect of stealing others’ “work.” Which in too many easy-to-detect cases is just someone throwing whatever shit they can out there.

And, to be honest, it’s pretty gutless and irresponsible to post things you know are lies, but to then just stick your hands up and say “I’m just posting what I read.” And I know you actually do believe what you read, so it’s others doing that on your behalf really. But seriously dude — think about the difference between fact and opinion, and when you read that Tony Khan saved a bus full of orphans that Vince McMahon catapulted a flaming ball of rock at, just maybe think about whether or not it came from “AEW Newz” this week.

[drave]

nah man, like i quite honestly feel like i was reading a different post in a different thread and formed that reply, but im quite out of it today.


i don't care about your whatever it is you have with smeat. smeat reports what he finds from the wrasslin newswires, rumors and all. this occurs in any industry.

[#1-norm-fan]

and reading, or maybe that's just my inner yank thinking about trying to read.

edit: i dunno what happened here. think maybe i didnt read all the new posts.

so tired.

Smeat said ROH would be dumb to work with WWE in response to a hypothetical I posted. His basis for this? His opinion because WWE bad. He then provided a list of “bad partnerships” that never actually happened. They just would have been bad if they had, because WWE bad. And everyone is saying he posts facts because it’s easier than, once again, admitting that Noid was right.

Don’t believe me?

EVOLVE: Got plenty out of the WWE deal. Probably lent on WWE because of bad financial position. The promoter was also working for WWE and basically sold it off to them. This one happened. Is only bad if you wanted EVOLVE to continue to exist as its own entity.

STARDOM: This never happened. STARDOM still exists and never had a partnership with WWE. “They would have been absorbed into NXT Japan” is complete speculative fiction.

NOAH: The same fiction. There were bullshit rumors about the WWE looking to purchase them, because WWE loves acquiring Yakuza fronts. This wasn’t even rumored to be a partnership. And it NEVER HAPPENED. How can you call something that didn’t happen a fact? Or information. If my uncle had bought out Subway they wouldn’t make sandwiches anymore. So not a sandwich shop.

PROGRESS: Small-time British promotion that was basically acquired by WWE, right? UK’s scene madly inflated by newsletter peddlers trying to insist some sort of insurgence. The same people will say that Australia is hot. NO ONE gives a fuck about wrestling here. If PROGRESS had more to offer, it may have been more valuable. But “talent exchanges” that allow a company to stay afloat for longer than it should aren’t exactly a bad thing. Unless you’re expecting the main event of WrestleMania to be sent and a struggling promotion to stay alive based off that.

UK & Europe: So you admit it? These places need WWE more than they can actually offer assistance to them in a lot of cases. These places are staying off execution in many cases. WWE buying them when they can’t stay in business is...business? What is your major issue with this?

TNA: Didn’t happen. Also, TNA has been dead for years. The only thing slightly valuable about them would be lending WWE footage of some guys pre-WWE. Basically Joe and Styles.

New Japan: Another thing that didn’t happen and another case of “would have.” WWE has access to top New Japan talent. They have the opportunity to sign them when their deals are up like anyone else. New Japan World being part of the WWE Network would have been awesome for them. Way more exposure on Peacock now too.

CMLL: Didn’t happen. Also, isn’t this promotion basically dead? So when they’re on their last legs and work with WWE, it’s WWE’s fault. When they don’t work with WWE? WWE’s fault. Seriously, what is even your point?

So, out of a list of facts and information designed to prove that WWE are horrible partners, only two of the promotions you actually named worked with WWE. EVOLVE and Progress. Of those two, it’s a matter of perspective as to whether or not this has been “bad” or not. These promotions may not have lasted anywhere near as long as they did without WWE.

Guys, I’ve got evidence that vaccines don’t work. I know a scientist, right? They didn’t invent a vaccine. They got some water in a syringe. But because that didn’t work, vaccines don’t work. You’d have to be an idiot to get a vaccine.

This is literally the line of logic being played here. It’s not even just made-up evidence—it’s made up off the back of scenarios that never even happened.

WWE didn’t purchase NOAH, or CMLL, or TNA. You can’t just say that they tried and count it. But hey, here on TPWW that’s just “news.” What a steaming pile of crap. And y’all know it.

Smeat isn’t reporting the news. He’s taking whatever rumor is running, without citation, and throws it out there without any critical thinking. I used to be softer on this sort of stuff, because in a business of rumor and jealous perspectives, you’re going to end up reporting on what you heard from a shit-kicker somewhere. Someone with a gripe somewhere.

But the issue is when you take that word from the shit-kicker as gospel. Which Smeat does do. WWE was planning to go on a tour clubbing baby seals and spitting on sick puppies? Of course they were. This is fact now. Someone asks if they’re good with pets and it’s “No! Remember the seal clubbing!” It never happened.

Smeat takes it further, because it’s not just bad faith in WWE. That would be understandable. He will post stories that can be dismissed by simply reading them then thinking about them. He does this ALL the time. No, he doesn’t write the stories. Some other dude looking to squeeze a buck out of the naive does. But you can at least be responsible in checking to see if you’re helping someone prey on others or not.

At least Smeat does take their bullshit from behind paywalls and gets in the way of them making a buck. But that’s not why he does it. It’s just an unintentional side effect of stealing others’ “work.” Which in too many easy-to-detect cases is just someone throwing whatever shit they can out there.

And, to be honest, it’s pretty gutless and irresponsible to post things you know are lies, but to then just stick your hands up and say “I’m just posting what I read.” And I know you actually do believe what you read, so it’s others doing that on your behalf really. But seriously dude — think about the difference between fact and opinion, and when you read that Tony Khan saved a bus full of orphans that Vince McMahon catapulted a flaming ball of rock at, just maybe think about whether or not it came from “AEW Newz” this week.

Sir, this is a Wendys...

[Mr. Nerfect]

nah man, like i quite honestly feel like i was reading a different post in a different thread and formed that reply, but im quite out of it today.


i don't care about your whatever it is you have with smeat. smeat reports what he finds from the wrasslin newswires, rumors and all. this occurs in any industry.

My issue is that he takes them as fact. He’s literally up there using stuff that cannot be verified because it didn’t happen as evidence. I get people like the news being stolen for them, but to say he posts “facts” and “information” is a bit of a stretch, since he has absolutely zero insight as to what is a fact and what is fiction.

[screech]

I’m glad I haven’t seen any of these “Nick Jackson/Shawn Michaels exchanges.”

Just seeing those two names next to each other... I can’t bite my tongue hard enough.

This is the first I'm hearing of said exchanges and I'm good with having no other information about them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Are they actually exchanges between the guys, or just people comparing them? I know Meltzer is trying to do a “Nick Jackson is the closest thing to Shawn Michaels I’ve seen” thing.

[ron the dial]

going to one of the local feds later in the month. freelance wrestling. it's being held at a place i saw chikara a few times, and i love the venue. i know effy's already on the card. hoping they add danhausen (based on the poster). never seen him live before. also frank the clown is involved but i don't really care about that lol.

[drave]

My issue is that he takes them as fact. He’s literally up there using stuff that cannot be verified because it didn’t happen as evidence. I get people like the news being stolen for them, but to say he posts “facts” and “information” is a bit of a stretch, since he has absolutely zero insight as to what is a fact and what is fiction.


Do any of us have any insight as to what is fact and fiction? No. He is reporting what sticks behind paywalls and also what the "industry news sites / whatever" are reporting as news. This is the way any reporting works, and the same methodology any reporter uses, doubly so in the entertainment industry.


I don't see Smeat going around saying "THIS IS 100% VERIFIABLE FACT!!! FUCKING FIGHT ME!". In fact, he's made MANY "correction" posts when information becomes available that may invalidate something he posted earlier.



Rather, he reports the news which he finds and posts it. If it doesn't fit your narrative or whatever, you take issue with HIM and not the actual source of the news. As much as smeetzsheetz.com should be an awesome website, it isn't his.


It would be like getting pissed off at the news anchor for reading whats on the teleprompter, or watching a news channel you dislike just so you can scream at it. Go for the source if you actually give a damn like you say. THEY are the ones throwing out "misinformation".

[James Steele]

Taking the absolute biggest break from wrestling that I ever have in my life. It was probably the thing I loved most. People don’t get it and say “wah, wah, wah — don’t watch then.” Well, it’s finally happening. Fuck wrestling.

Fuck AEW.
Fuck WWE.
Fuck the NWA.
Fuck New Japan.
Fuck classic wrestling.

It’s been easier than I suspect. I’ve checked the news a couple of times and listened to some Cornette YouTube clips (not his full show, I’m even off criticism of wrestling). I think I might be properly done soon.

Thanks for the memories, wrestling. You got me through some weird times growing up. But it’s time I realized you haven’t been good to me in a long, long time. Fuck off and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

The WWE surely gets a lot of the blame, but AEW was it for me. I just can’t. The self-indulgent disregard of there being any sort of art to this. The complete waste of potential. I went from being optimistic about wrestling to seeing so clearly that this is not going to be something a reasonable person can enjoy in record time.

So a special big fuck you to AEW for that. And also fuck TPWW for housing some of the most insecure and gormless little marks. I was right when I said WWE sucked way back, and I am right when I say AEW sucks right now.

I’m off to read some books or something.

I have taken the absolute biggest break from watching wrestling ever. Can’t remember the last show I actually watched. Probably highlights from SmackDown or something. I watched an individual clip from Dynamite, which was an awkward promo between Omega and Danielson where they kept saying “shit.”

Not very good anymore. And it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

And with all that, I’m still one of the most valuable posters here. Keeping the job squad in line and making sure people’s bad takes don’t get past without a scalding.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do any of us have any insight as to what is fact and fiction? No. He is reporting what sticks behind paywalls and also what the "industry news sites / whatever" are reporting as news. This is the way any reporting works, and the same methodology any reporter uses, doubly so in the entertainment industry.


I don't see Smeat going around saying "THIS IS 100% VERIFIABLE FACT!!! FUCKING FIGHT ME!". In fact, he's made MANY "correction" posts when information becomes available that may invalidate something he posted earlier.



Rather, he reports the news which he finds and posts it. If it doesn't fit your narrative or whatever, you take issue with HIM and not the actual source of the news. As much as smeetzsheetz.com should be an awesome website, it isn't his.


It would be like getting pissed off at the news anchor for reading whats on the teleprompter, or watching a news channel you dislike just so you can scream at it. Go for the source if you actually give a damn like you say. THEY are the ones throwing out "misinformation".

No, no, no, it’s not. You’re being reasonable, but you’re missing what actually happens. If Smeat just posted the sheets, that would be more like what you’re saying at the end about attacking the reporter.

This little spat came up because he responded to a hypothetical I posted saying “that would be dumb because of all this historical evidence.” I responded to that and he started listing a bunch of things that didn’t happen. That literally happened. The WWE didn’t buy CMLL and dissolve it into Mexico. They didn’t buy NOAH or STARDOM and do the same thing in Japan. He takes this shit at face value. That’s my issue.

Reporting on hearsay is fine. Sometimes you have to do it. That’s why I initially defended Smeat when other people got up him for posting shit. But he goes that extra step into inserting himself citing it with a “Well, actually.” That’s why I tell him off. Because he’s reporting a bunch of hearsay that is designed to get clicks, sell newsletters and push a narrative. If you think about the stories, some of them anyway, for more than one minute, you realize how they cannot be true. How could Vince McMahon initially taken control of NXT? He’s a busy man. He’d be busy on Wednesdays. Just think about it. That’s all I ask. And don’t act like you’re in possession of some holy relic because you can regurgitate it. His entire arguments, when he sees something he doesn’t like, are based around newsletter info. He doesn’t add a single thought of his own, or respond to them. An essay by Smeat would be source, source, source, source with no critical thinking. And they wouldn’t be good sources either. But he still acts smart because of them. Anyone can post someone else’s thoughts.

In this thread, he backed up someone calling the things he posted “facts.” His borrowed opinion is “fact.” I can see through the news reports that, you know, predicted the end of the world that didn’t come? Those ones. I don’t like “facts.”

And if you attack the sources, he’ll defend them too. Post the bullshit, but when someone posts “Hey, you know that’s not true right?” don’t call them an asshole and whatever. And Smeat does, he’s not above it. His news sharing gives him a sense of authority and he doesn’t like that being challenged. See what happens when you question whether or not Meltzer still has any good WWE sources. Defends the shit out of him. When was the last story Meltzer broke? Edge to the WWE? He got that from AEW because Edge had signed a deal with WWE and The Bucks or someone told Dave they couldn’t talk to him anymore. Can’t think of one more recent than that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

drave, here is Smeat responding to someone saying something he posted was truth:

Guess so these days if it goes against whatever views or preconceived notions one might have towards wrestling.

Same for something that gets dismissed as being truthful suddenly becomes the truth if it fits into whatever narrative someone has about it. Doesn't matter if nothing about the actual matter or issue changed. Ratings talk being the biggest example of it around here.

He thinks he’s posting truth. The things he posted were about things that never happened.

I’m sure his “ratings talk” there is the Meltzer, grab some numbers from Showbuzz charts (super academic source there), put emphasis on the area you want to make one company look better than the other, spin that into a story to sell newsletters. He believes what he is sold.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He does use qualifiers here, I’ll give him that.

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

Links to bullshit websites. Are they potential evidence? Sure. Maybe. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. But when the source turns out to be wrong? Yeah, that’s not good evidence.

And yeah, I’m stupid and full of nonsense because I pointed out that NXT Japan and NXT Mexico didn’t happen. And because I point out that cable television is a different industry than it was 20 years ago — younger demos use streaming. Why did AEW get booted off TNT for a property that doesn’t draw as high a demo? And why did WarnerMedia pay so much more for it than AEW? Hmm. Could it be that the demo talk is all bullshit and you can see through it with the slightest bit of common sense.

That’s why he brought up the ratings, by the way. He cannot stand that people would question Dave’s interpretations of these numbers. His hyper-literal, god-fearing, these are a stone cold science interpretation of the numbers. Which does have to squint sometimes to make those gaps seem smaller, or this gap seem wider.

Numbers are fixed, but how people use them is malleable. The meaning they extract is variable.

[Bad News Gertner]

Amazing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Poor, poor Rick Thames… <a href="https://t.co/54Pm5IiytP">pic.twitter.com/54Pm5IiytP</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1445223532762472450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lmaoooo what a bump

[Bad News Gertner]

Gerald Brisco and JBL's new podcast is a ton of fun.

It's called "Stories with Brisco and Bradshaw"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Never thought I’d see the day where Gerry Brisco and Bradshaw would have a podcast together.

[Jordan]

Gerald Brisco and JBL's new podcast is a ton of fun.

It's called "Stories with Brisco and Bradshaw"

What do they go on about?

[#1-norm-fan]

I saw part of their Blue Meanie interview. Good stuff.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bradshaw can talk. Does Gerry sound sharp?

[James Steele]

Bradshaw can talk. Does Gerry sound sharp?

Maybe you can just pull up short clips on YouTube and form a long-winded and all-encompassing opinion about it.

[Bad News Gertner]

What do they go on about?

They have weekly guests and just shoot the shit.

[Bad News Gertner]

Bradshaw can talk. Does Gerry sound sharp?

Yeah Gerry sounds great

[James Steele]

Does Gerry still have the mutton chops?

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bubba Dudley, <a href="https://twitter.com/Fgbrisco?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Fgbrisco</a> and Bradshaw all talk about being some of first integrated tag teams. Bubba joins Stories with Brisco and Bradshaw. Whole show here <a href="https://t.co/RuKGYaP3pT">https://t.co/RuKGYaP3pT</a> and podcast here <a href="https://t.co/2bKByC8jWG">https://t.co/2bKByC8jWG</a> <a href="https://t.co/xfe0M2sJOU">pic.twitter.com/xfe0M2sJOU</a></p>&mdash; John Layfield (@JCLayfield) <a href="https://twitter.com/JCLayfield/status/1445736027142770698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE NXT last night on USA Network was watched by 632,000 viewers, the lowest since Sep 7, and down 4% from last week.<br><br>NXT did a 0.13 rating in P18-49 (about 170,000 viewers), the lowest since Aug 3. It ranked #34 on cable, according to Showbuzz Daily.<br><br>�� <a href="https://t.co/KOj8Uva1YH">https://t.co/KOj8Uva1YH</a> <a href="https://t.co/gE58ko0fps">pic.twitter.com/gE58ko0fps</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1445843128590782465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

I saw part of their Blue Meanie interview. Good stuff.

Listening to the Mike McGuirk interview. One of the most fascinating interviews I've ever heard.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meng bounced off of that dude’s sternum. <a href="https://t.co/GJSlSrUURP">pic.twitter.com/GJSlSrUURP</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1445554801429733381?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Maybe you can just pull up short clips on YouTube and form a long-winded and all-encompassing opinion about it.

I could do that. Or I could just ask Gerty about it, since I trust his opinion.

[slik]

watching mlw on vice...

I have NO IDEA why they dedicated a talk show segment to discuss WWE and AEW news in the middle of the show, like wtf

"Is WWE for sale"

"Should AEW sign Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn"


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[slik]

Ring announcer looks depressed

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[Jordan]

He was a ring announcer for ECW. Looks pretty bad!

I thin MLW is putting those Wrestling writers on their show so that those writers will write about MLW like it's important.

[Bad News Gertner]

Is that Stephen Dangelis?

[slik]

Referee looks like Droford


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[Jordan]

Is that Stephen Dangelis?

Yeah. He started working for MLW a few years back when I was going to their shows.

[slik]

MLW announces Will Ospreay coming to MLW in the fall

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9ValCWwGh7s" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Surprised theres no clips of Xavier and Paige hidden somewhere...

[Mr. Nerfect]

MLW announces Will Ospreay coming to MLW in the fall

Interesting. I’ve heard he’s not horrid anymore. I’d love to see MLW put themselves on the map.

[Bad News Gertner]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9ValCWwGh7s" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Surprised theres no clips of Xavier and Paige hidden somewhere...

Good God, the narrator makes me angry

[Mr. Nerfect]

They only did 40k viewers. I mean, that might be in line with what Vice was expecting, but I dunno.

[erickman]

watching mlw on vice...

I have NO IDEA why they dedicated a talk show segment to discuss WWE and AEW news in the middle of the show, like wtf

"Is WWE for sale"

"Should AEW sign Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn"


https://i.postimg.cc/fWXkWxfQ/Screenshot-2021-10-07-10-22-41-PM.png

https://i.postimg.cc/YqH0vhdG/Screenshot-2021-10-07-10-23-31-PM.png

yeah i wish they had 3 matches instead. i wonder is fatu leaving the way he lost.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tajiri worked the show. Another reason to watch.

[Bad News Gertner]

This video was in the pre show last night but it's so great that I'm posting it here



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[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/gAUy2e2yBW">pic.twitter.com/gAUy2e2yBW</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1377983102006476805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

Hammerstone/Fatu would have been a great match if Hammer didn't slap his thigh no joke at least 50 times. Dude slaps his thigh so blatantly for every goddamn move! And I love AEW!

Will Ospreay in MLW could be interesting and get some buzz there. I just don't really know who his "best oppponent" would be? The mentioned Myron Reed, and yeah that will be fine. But Will moved to heavyweight and that would be a step back in my opinion.

[erickman]

watching big e on big 10 showdown on fox all in iowa redneck wear.

[slik]

SD - 2.03 million

sports season going to affect it too it seems

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Doomsday Device via Shining Wizard by Bob Sapp and the GOAT Keiji Mutoh! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/noah_ghc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#noah_ghc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/muto_keiji?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@muto_keiji</a> <a href="https://t.co/2IJ7vaKkcc">pic.twitter.com/2IJ7vaKkcc</a></p>&mdash; Robby Steven (@RankingsRs) <a href="https://twitter.com/RankingsRs/status/1375515720532955139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

It is an injustice Eva Marie is not in this Queen's Crown tournament

smh

[Bad News Gertner]

They completely ruined their top draw

[slik]

The match that killed women's rasslin in WWE for like 20 years

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I hate the myth that women’s wrestling only got good in 2013. I mean, it’s not even true when looking at the WWF/E.

[Gerard]

Womens wrasslin is always hard to swallow, the sheer amount of obvious assistance is hard to ignore, also the fact the ropes barely move when they hit them (with a few obvious exceptions) makes moves off the ropes look utterly farcical. :|

How the fuck the stratusfaction ever got brought in as a finisher is baffling, the opponent is the one doing all the work and its blatently obvious to anyone watching.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Womens wrasslin is always hard to swallow, the sheer amount of obvious assistance is hard to ignore, also the fact the ropes barely move when they hit them (with a few obvious exceptions) makes moves off the ropes look utterly farcical. :|

How the fuck the stratusfaction ever got brought in as a finisher is baffling, the opponent is the one doing all the work and its blatently obvious to anyone watching.

Eh, I kind of agree, but it has its place and can be super-over if done right. I hate the idea of a Women’s Royal Rumble and them doing everything the men do, because it does create that obvious physical gap between the cadence and impact of everything. Get women who can properly work to their size and believably in their style, put them in complimentary match-ups and let it fly.

There’s this weird thing where you have a bunch of green women competing with these really polished workers and it just does no one any good. A good women’s division needs care and attention from a booker who can emphasise talent appropriately. But I guess the women they do have in chief spots right now are working for them, and they just have a billion matches against whoever so who cares?

Bleh. Wrestling.

[Bad News Gertner]

WWF had a great women's division in the 80s

[rez]

WWF had a great women's division in the 80s

Your mum was a great wrestler in the 80s

she birthed you

[slik]

I remember thinking Bull Nakano was the female version of Vader growing up

[Bad News Gertner]

Your mum was a great wrestler in the 80s

she birthed you

Very accurate

[Mr. Nerfect]

It really goes understated how much women played in the whole Rock ‘n’ Wrestling boom.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I mean, I think everybody “knows” it was important, but I don’t think it’s quite as appreciated as it should be. A 9.1 rating for The War to Settle the Score.

[Bad News Gertner]

Even in terms of in ring skill, there were really talented women in the WWF in the mid 80s.

And Cyndi Lauper isn't in the WWE Hall of Fame if you can believe that.

[xrodmuc316]

The match that killed women's rasslin in WWE for like 20 years

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That looks like every Young Bucks match ive ever seen :rofl:

[Bad News Gertner]

This is so cool. Cornette helping Kane pre-Kane debut

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Glen training to be Kane, prior to debut. Had to share. <a href="https://t.co/tMKuIydu1L">pic.twitter.com/tMKuIydu1L</a></p>&mdash; WWE Warehouse Pics (@TheWarehouse860) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheWarehouse860/status/1446217365486718978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[ron the dial]

gcw running hammerstein on my bday and i'm thinking of going?

[Bad News Gertner]

You gotta go. That would be so cool.

[Fignuts]

I remember thinking Bull Nakano was the female version of Vader growing up

Bull Nakano is still my favorite female wrestler of all time. Epic run in AJW and carried Medusa to the best matches of her career.

Best Alabama Jam of all time.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

That Aja King squash match was great. Why did it kill women’s wrestling?

Also as a kid I was scared shitless of Bull Nakano.

[Fignuts]

Holy shit, what the fuck even is this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Walker was great at trying to do three things at once and accomplishing none of them. <a href="https://t.co/FKWWfiF63V">pic.twitter.com/FKWWfiF63V</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1446281456356036611?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

It's like he had a stroke in the middle of an elbow drop.

[xrodmuc316]

Holy shit, what the fuck even is this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Walker was great at trying to do three things at once and accomplishing none of them. <a href="https://t.co/FKWWfiF63V">pic.twitter.com/FKWWfiF63V</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1446281456356036611?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I love him trying to pull the other dude out of the ring by his beard as the last resort :rofl:

[Vastardikai]

The match that killed women's rasslin in WWE for like 20 years

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That poor little girl didn't wince in agony after those kicks, she was getting literally knocked an inch forward. Potatoes indeed.

[drave]

the spinning backfist...... fuck.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's like he had a stroke in the middle of an elbow drop.

Hardwork Bobby Walker was so bad.

Sooooo bad. He kept trying to do Rope Walks during his matches but he'd keep falling off lol

[Gerard]

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That looks very safe,....Why are their turnbuckle pads so big? Look more like cushions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hardwork Bobby Walker was so bad.

Sooooo bad. He kept trying to do Rope Walks during his matches but he'd keep falling off lol

That is amazing.