"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Evil Vito]

God I really want Miz vs. Nakamura at WrestleMania. I can't shake the feeling that Nakamura will be staying on NXT through Takeover Orlando...probably against Roode again as the recent trend seems to be keeping the programs going through multiple Takeovers, especially the main events. But they called Zayn up last year and had no issues with him pulling double duty down the stretch and on Mania weekend. Given that NXT tapes in bulk, Nakamura could do that and spend the rest of his time with SmackDown.

Failing that, they can have Nakamura interrupt Miz during the SmackDown after Mania. The last few years, the SmackDown after Mania was when everything went back to the status quo. The vocal hardcore fans usually flew back home during the day on Tuesday and the SmackDown crowd was mostly just a regular crowd going to see a show in which nothing happened. Now SmackDown is important and being held in the same building as Raw, so I'd have to think the diehards will stick around. If he's not up before then, Nakamura deserves to debut in front of a crowd guaranteed to go apeshit for him.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

He looks like Adam Sandler

[BigCrippyZ]

I took it more as making fun of the dumb complaints the IWC brings up and exposing how idiotic their complaints are. Best part was JBL taking about TV rights revenue. I feel like I've tried to explain that to people on here and have it fall in deaf ears.

I guess it depends what you think of the people who are launching the complaints. I in no way value their opinion, so it's tough to not make fun of them. But I can see how people on here like yourself would see it the other way.

Again though, JBL and even Heyman intentionally wouldn't address the actual issue which is multi-fold. Should WWE move Raw from 3 back to 2 hours? There's no one-size fits all answer, unless all you're concerned with is purely the financial implications.

Purely based on finances, of course not, at least not currently. If you're looking at it based strictly on the current finances, no one here has suggested going back to 2 hours. We all get that.

Creatively (and maybe even financially) in the longer term, it's definitely something Vince should consider or at least never say never to. Imagine if Raw were to go back to 2 hours, perhaps creative would improve, and as a result of improved creative, ratings would improve. If Raw went back to 2 hours and that resulted in Raw averaging 4.0 to 5.0 ratings every week, you think WWE's broadcast fees wouldn't improve drastically enough to justify getting rid of the 3rd hour of Raw?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He looks like Adam Sandler

Very fitting. He is the worst of the worst. Wrestling an 8-year-old and a blow-up doll. He belongs with the Superkick Spot Monkeys Twins.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He just had a match that will not be topped this year in WWE. He's in another league alright.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Carried that doll an a 8 year old girl to better matches than I've seen on Raw in some time.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Darkone. I need your Corey Graves head shake.

[mhirn3]

Absolutely love this (NJPW spoilers contained)

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/01/04/kenny-omega-kazuchika-okada-wrestle-kingdom-11-match-video

[Evil Vito]

Very fitting. He is the worst of the worst. Wrestling an 8-year-old and a blow-up doll. He belongs with the Superkick Spot Monkeys Twins.

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I guess Jim Cornette is an idiot too?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Omega is great. Bit of an overseller in the ring but he's still great, and hours ridiculous character is perfect in a world of respect and honor.

Everything I've seen from him this year has been ace. Speaking of ace, watch his IC title match with Tanahashi. Just as good or better than anything wwe has put out.

[Savio]

Yes he is.

[Savio]

Ugh, fuck, Damien stole my spot.

[Emperor Smeat]

Kenny Omega is pretty good overall.

Liked the comedy type stuff he used to do like the chainsaw elbows but from what I've read, he's transitioned pretty smoothly into a more serious type wrestler during the past year. His One Winged Angel finisher is amazing.

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

He still does some comedy. His gimmick is basically crazy ridiculous American jack ass. But it's done in an obnoxious way. He pulls it off very well.

[Lock Jaw]

New page!

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[Volare]

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[Volare]

And my favorite.....

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

New page!

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nice buttttttt

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You take the butt, Dale. I'll take them titties.

[thecc]

Very fitting. He is the worst of the worst. Wrestling an 8-year-old and a blow-up doll. He belongs with the Superkick Spot Monkeys Twins.http://abload.de/img/4az4ymcsfl5f.gif

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And I cannot wait to watch all the wrestle kingdom stuff.

[thecc]

I guess Jim Cornette is an idiot too?When it comes to modern wrestling, absolutely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cannot take Kenny Omega seriously. The Terminator stuff makes it seem like he's shed the comedy stuff, then he comes out pulling that face. Fuck's sake. Have no desire to see him wrestle now, no matter how good Okada is. Feels like New Japan has taken a major step down.

Don't get me started on The Young Bucks. They look too fucking girly for a boy band.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When it comes to modern wrestling, absolutely.

The audience for modern wrestling shrinks every day. Modern wrestling is an idiot when it comes to modern wrestling.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

There's a 45 minute instant classic of wrestling, easily going to be in the conversation for match of the year if not the outright winner and people saying that WK11 is probably a good step up from WK10 although maybe not quite touching the height of WK9, the last 5 matches on the card are the best you will see anywhere in the world.

But no, Omega pulled a face. Major step down.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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I can't take AJ Styles seriously now, lads

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[Juan]

I guess Jim Cornette is an idiot too?

Is that really what you're basing you're opinion on?

This is just another example of you hating anything that isn't WWE

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be fair to STD, he didn't state that was his reason; that's just another guy who doesn't like Kenny Omega. And to be honest there are legitimate reasons not to like him. The way he's ironically played a professional wrestler for years makes him annoying. It's that class clown sense of humor that just grates on you if you're not into that sort of thing. I don't find stuff like The Young Bucks hitting 8,000 superkicks a match interesting (I honestly find them boring as fuck) and Omega just turned me off seconds into his most recent appearance by mugging like an idiot. That doesn't mean you hate all things that aren't WWE.

Now, STD might very well hate all things that aren't WWE, I can't really speak for him, but citing a wrestling authority to back up an opinion isn't necessarily an appeal to authority.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kyle O'Reilly turned down his ROH contract. I don't think I posted it here, but I made the prediction that he'd jump to WWE. They seem to be in hiring mode and they seem to want to sprout up even more content. O'Reilly will fit somewhere. I think he's a less charismatic Daniel Bryan, but we'll see if the WWE production machine turns him into something interesting. I predict Adam Cole will hold the ROH World Title until April, when his dates with ROH dry up, and then he drops the belt to Jay Lethal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE also signed Heidi Lovelace, Kimber Lee, Andrea (trained by The Dudleys) and Julia Ho (a model with MMA experience). Wouldn't be surprised if they are eventually presented as counterparts to the Four Horsewomen for some sort of 4 vs. 4 feud.

[Juan]

To be fair to STD, he didn't state that was his reason; that's just another guy who doesn't like Kenny Omega.

That's fine, my comment was more about how STD has a really harsh opinion on pretty much anything that isn't WWE.

[Innovator]

SUZUKIGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Evil Vito]

Pretty sure there's people on this board that would perform fellatio on Jim Cornette if he asked them to.

[thecc]

The audience for modern wrestling shrinks every day. Modern wrestling is an idiot when it comes to modern wrestling.Except new japans popularity has increased ten fold over the past few years.

[Big Vic]

Fuck Jim "Out of touch" Cornette

[slik]

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[Evil Vito]

New page!

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Nikki wants to have a kid with Cena, but he probably always pulls out at two.

[Innovator]

Except new japans popularity has increased ten fold over the past few years.

Just on January 4th, NJPWWorld gained 10,000 new subscribers with 55% of them being from North America.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[BigCrippyZ]

You take the butt, Dale. I'll take them titties.

I'd take them both. I'm hardcore.

[Droford]

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I can't take AJ Styles seriously now, lads

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[Volare]

STILL SPACE MOUNTAIN!!

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[Cool King]

New page!

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I thought this was a Black Widow post at first.

[BigCrippyZ]

Nikki has that "I'm into anal" vibe to her. Or at least, like, she'd pretend to be into anal if it was a guy she was really desperate/interested in being with.

[Sixx]

hm, which of the bella twins has fake tits?

[Cool King]

Nikki.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Sixx]

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is that scott norton?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yes.

[Sixx]

for some reason i thought he was dead.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fuck Jim "Out of touch" Cornette

What exactly is Jim Cornette out of touch about? I love conversations like this, because it always involves a lot of ad hominem. The only way he is antiquated is that he uses his anger as a teaching tool. Still created more stars than NXT has in about the same amount of time. If the dude spoke in a calm manner and watched everybody's feelings, I swear to god everybody would be like "Oh, you know what, that's 100% correct."

People don't like Jim Cornette and thus don't like his views, not vice versa. Generally speaking, of course.

[Rammsteinmad]

Is that recent? Fucking hell he looks like he can still go.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Is that recent? Fucking hell he looks like he can still go.

Yeah, was in the Rumble at Wrestle Kingdom yesterday and had a tag match at New Year Dash today.

[Big Vic]

What exactly is Jim Cornette out of touch about? I love conversations like this, because it always involves a lot of ad hominem. The only way he is antiquated is that he uses his anger as a teaching tool. Still created more stars than NXT has in about the same amount of time. If the dude spoke in a calm manner and watched everybody's feelings, I swear to god everybody would be like "Oh, you know what, that's 100% correct."

People don't like Jim Cornette and thus don't like his views, not vice versa. Generally speaking, of course.

His view on wrestling is in the 80s he acts like marks can't get on twitter and tell that these characters are not real.

[slik]

@Rammsteinmad

looks like WK 11 from this week based on the set design

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah, was in the Rumble at Wrestle Kingdom yesterday and had a tag match at New Year Dash today.

Shame they had to tone down the crowd because his regular theme couldn't be played since they popped the hardest for his appearance during the match.

Then again a lot better than a few years ago when NJPW would just mute everything till wrestlers with licensed themes entered the ring.

[Mr. Nerfect]

His view on wrestling is in the 80s he acts like marks can't get on twitter and tell that these characters are not real.

No it's not. Not in terms of logic and psychology. Maybe because he would actually try and book things instead of scripting inane back-and-forth "episodic" nonsense. I mean, can you point to an actual belief Cornette holds that would be anachronistic in today's wrestling? The one thing working on RAW is Braun Strowman, and that's something Cornette has been calling for for years.

I actually don't understand your second point. Cornette acts like marks can't get on Twitter and tell that these characters are not real? He points out that marks are on Twitter acting like goofs all the time. He seems to be taken more seriously by fans of, say, Kevin Owens and The Young Bucks than he takes them.

It's today's generation that seem to have more trouble with Twitter and telling apart what is real and what is fake. Will Ospreay with Vader is a perfect example. The Revival trying to work and drumming up heat for themselves is another. Find me a wrestler that tries to have a gimmick on Twitter. I think even Bray Wyatt has given up at this point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Twitter could be a place for wrestlers to prove that they actually at least understand promo content. You obviously can't get inflection and tone as over with a post like that, but who actually tries to promo with their Twitter account? Such a missed opportunity.

[thecc]

Do people forget how Cornette practically ran roh into the ground?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Cornette is smart but so very past it.

[Vastardikai]

No it's not. Not in terms of logic and psychology. Maybe because he would actually try and book things instead of scripting inane back-and-forth "episodic" nonsense. I mean, can you point to an actual belief Cornette holds that would be anachronistic in today's wrestling? The one thing working on RAW is Braun Strowman, and that's something Cornette has been calling for for years.

I actually don't understand your second point. Cornette acts like marks can't get on Twitter and tell that these characters are not real? He points out that marks are on Twitter acting like goofs all the time. He seems to be taken more seriously by fans of, say, Kevin Owens and The Young Bucks than he takes them.

It's today's generation that seem to have more trouble with Twitter and telling apart what is real and what is fake. Will Ospreay with Vader is a perfect example. The Revival trying to work and drumming up heat for themselves is another. Find me a wrestler that tries to have a gimmick on Twitter. I think even Bray Wyatt has given up at this point.

Hell, Vader used Twitter to book himself a sizable payday. In 2016. 20 years past his prime.

If anything, he should be teaching workers how to use Twitter properly.

[Simple Fan]

Twitter could be a place for wrestlers to prove that they actually at least understand promo content. You obviously can't get inflection and tone as over with a post like that, but who actually tries to promo with their Twitter account? Such a missed opportunity.

Broken Matt Hardy.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

Now I miss Ice Train

[Lock Jaw]

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Feel like "every female employee" of the WWE has taken a selfie holding this "Activate" pouch of whatever it is

[Evil Vito]

In addition to the first rumored 2017 HOFer

DDP

the second member of the class is expected to be

Rick Rude

[Savio]

Is this video good or awful?

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[Lock Jaw]

awful

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Count me as one of Americans who are New Japan World subscribers

[Mr. Nerfect]

Broken Matt Hardy.

Lol, Matt Hardy's not a serious gimmick.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do people forget how Cornette practically ran roh into the ground?

Cornette's side of the story is very different to that. His plans for ROH were actually very similar to what was done with OVW and what Triple H would eventually do with NXT.

[Blonde Moment]

Cornette is as interesting as all hell to listen to and i think if it wasn't for his anger management issues he would be "somewhere" today.

Where would the wwe be today without the cash injection from the attitude era? Would the company still be seen as successful?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would seriously rather listen to Cornette talk about wrestling than watch an episode of RAW. People forget just how fucking good this guy was at talking. Unbelievable.

[thecc]

Cornette's side of the story is very different to that. His plans for ROH were actually very similar to what was done with OVW and what Triple H would eventually do with NXT. As someone who was watching at the time, I call bullshit on this. He brought in a bunch of past their prime dudes. He also basically forced a bunch of guys out of the company. Just because Cornette says something, doesn't make it true. He's as carnie as they get.

[Bad News Gertner]

Cornette's side of the story is very different to that. His plans for ROH were actually very similar to what was done with OVW and what Triple H would eventually do with NXT.

Lol remember how awful and disorganized that "Pick 6" thing he did

[Simple Fan]

Lol, Matt Hardy's not a serious gimmick.

You only asked if there was wrestler that uses Twitter to promo nothing about serious. Matt Hardy does it better than anybody.

[slik]

Why are they even wrestling at the Royal Rumble at this point?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERomanReigns">@WWERomanReigns</a> defends the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USTitle?src=hash">#USTitle</a> this Monday on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> against BOTH <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho">@IAmJericho</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight">@FightOwensFight</a>! <a href="https://t.co/67WzfaBLlp">https://t.co/67WzfaBLlp</a> <a href="https://t.co/jx8OXuFWLC">pic.twitter.com/jx8OXuFWLC</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/817422290182963201">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[mike adamle]

At least that one is a triple threat (or handicap?) match. The one on one nonsense is ridiculous

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Is the goal to make every match as un-special as possible?

Well I guess unless it has to do with Brock, Goldberg or Taker.

TOOOOOO much weekly content.

[slik]

I think Roman wrestled them in a handicap match a few weeks ago and won clean, on RAW.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Switch over to NJPW and save_yourselves

[Evil Vito]

Why are they even wrestling at the Royal Rumble at this point?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERomanReigns">@WWERomanReigns</a> defends the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USTitle?src=hash">#USTitle</a> this Monday on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> against BOTH <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho">@IAmJericho</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight">@FightOwensFight</a>! <a href="https://t.co/67WzfaBLlp">https://t.co/67WzfaBLlp</a> <a href="https://t.co/jx8OXuFWLC">pic.twitter.com/jx8OXuFWLC</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/817422290182963201">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Can't wait to see Reigns win even though one of Jericho/Owens could quite easily just lay down for the other.

[Cool King]

They'll be some kind of stipulation added on the night.

Probably something along the lines of Jericho must pin Reigns (or make him submit) to win the US Championship.

[Innovator]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

GOD are so over the top I kinda like them. It's like playing Soldier of Fortune.

[Innovator]

Corino couldn't take Camacho here

[Emperor Smeat]

Why are they even wrestling at the Royal Rumble at this point?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERomanReigns">@WWERomanReigns</a> defends the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USTitle?src=hash">#USTitle</a> this Monday on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> against BOTH <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho">@IAmJericho</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight">@FightOwensFight</a>! <a href="https://t.co/67WzfaBLlp">https://t.co/67WzfaBLlp</a> <a href="https://t.co/jx8OXuFWLC">pic.twitter.com/jx8OXuFWLC</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/817422290182963201">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Because RAW's Creative is really horrible in general. Only real saving grace left in their feud is if the Rumble match ends up being title vs title.

[screech]

Because RAW's Creative is really horrible in general. Only real saving grace left in their feud is if the Rumble match ends up being title vs title.

I keep hoping one of their matches will be title for title. It would be cool to see if Owens would try to make Jericho defend the US title on his behalf.

Or have they dropped the "we're both champion" thing? I'm a bit behind on the shows.

[slik]

They've dropped it. KO seemed 'concerned' about Jericho announcing he is in the Rumble this week.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/djstarion">@djstarion</a> It got 6 stars, so that's pretty good</p>&mdash; Wendy's (@Wendys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wendys/status/817071136190111746">January 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/PuroPodcast">@PuroPodcast</a> Hi Puro, personally I'd say it looked painful but made for a great match. Glad you like our sausage rolls. :) TY - Paul</p>&mdash; Tesco (@Tesco) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tesco/status/817216361151819776">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/djstarion">@djstarion</a> It got 6 stars, so that's pretty good</p>&mdash; Wendy's (@Wendys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wendys/status/817071136190111746">January 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/PuroPodcast">@PuroPodcast</a> Hi Puro, personally I'd say it looked painful but made for a great match. Glad you like our sausage rolls. :) TY - Paul</p>&mdash; Tesco (@Tesco) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tesco/status/817216361151819776">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Wendy's know's wrestling from Jim Cornette.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You only asked if there was wrestler that uses Twitter to promo nothing about serious. Matt Hardy does it better than anybody.

Yeah, I wasn't starting an argument, just that he's ridiculous.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol remember how awful and disorganized that "Pick 6" thing he did

Ha, no. What was that?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Christopher Daniels has re-signed with ROH, which is sort of a bummer, because I'd have really liked for him to get a WWE run. Frankie Kazarian could follow later, but in the meantime he could have done a singles thing in ROH and maybe even gotten a World Title run.

[Vastardikai]

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Scott Norton could still fold you up and stick you in his pocket. :eek:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They'll be some kind of stipulation added on the night.

Probably something along the lines of Jericho must pin Reigns (or make him submit) to win the US Championship.

I think they made it a 2 on 1 Handicap match. Probably whoever pins is champion so they will fight over it and the Floman Drains will win in the scuffle.

[Lock Jaw]

But if Roman Reigns is fighting both Chris Jericho and Kevin Owens on RAW, who could Seth Rollins possibly face?!!!

[Simple Fan]

But if Roman Reigns is fighting both Chris Jericho and Kevin Owens on RAW, who could Seth Rollins possibly face?!!!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQs6NuNuVqpZn_7ET69joh4wKtk-IJ4oDlO2Ze6omAV9oPA_4Po

[slik]

http://i.imgur.com/VKEWCQd.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Guess who's back?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1iJdO5UsAAA-4W.jpg

[Rammsteinmad]

Good God that just looks awful.

[Curtis]

Guess who's back?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1iJdO5UsAAA-4W.jpg

I have no idea who either of these guys are but the one in green is just begging to be photoshopped into multiple situations.

[Curtis]

Watched a WWE show for the first time in probably 6 months, was pretty good, I really like the new Divas on Smackdown.

[Volare]

A SHOW BABY!!

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wow Cornette's podcast now has a good co-host who is funny and doesn't try to control Cornette. The woman was terrible.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I have no idea who either of these guys are but the one in green is just begging to be photoshopped into multiple situations.

It's Kassius Ohno. (Chris Hero)

[Sixx]

was just reading about jarret and it reminded me of that terrible feud in late wcw. millionaire's club vs the new blood. my god, was that fucking terrible.

wasn't it around that time hogan feuded with billy fucking kidman?

goddamn, no wonder wcw was so cheap at this point.

[Cool King]

Guess who's back?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1iJdO5UsAAA-4W.jpg

That photo just reminds me of the enemies/bosses from the Mario games that jump and shake everything when they land and they also render you unable to move briefly.

[Vastardikai]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1iJdO5UsAAA-4W.jpg

This Just In: The Midcard Snare Trap has broken.

[Evil Vito]

http://www.wwe.com/gallery/raw-womens-champions-photos#fid-40076927

Can always count on WWE.com for a good photo gallery.

[Rammsteinmad]

A SHOW BABY!!

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I'm such a nit-picking prick, but it bugs me that Miz is having an absolute meltdown at the end, but still maintains holding the mic up to his mouth. :D

[Droford]

http://i.imgur.com/ETQYJhH.gif

Not so phenomenal

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He went down down on Up Up Down Down.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE considering offline and downloadable options as future additions to the Network.

Speaking at the Variety Entertainment Summit at CES in an interview with Todd Spangler, WWE Chief Marketing and Revenue Officer Michelle Wilson said offline viewing and downloadable content are “definitely on the roadmap” for WWE Network. With people being on the go more than ever, having access to content when there’s not a Wi-Fi connection is huge.

A specific time frame wasn’t announced, just that it should be sometime this year. It also wasn’t made clear if all content would be available for offline viewing or just a specific portion.
https://www.streamingobserver.com/wwe-network-offering-offline-viewing-downloadable-content-2017/

[Emperor Smeat]

was just reading about jarret and it reminded me of that terrible feud in late wcw. millionaire's club vs the new blood. my god, was that fucking terrible.

wasn't it around that time hogan feuded with billy fucking kidman?

goddamn, no wonder wcw was so cheap at this point.
I think the Rise & Fall of WCW book explained why Hogan-Kidman feud happened and mainly due to Hogan getting a lot of heat for always holding down talent or hogging the spotlight. Hogan wanted to prove that wasn't the case and he had no problem making new stars.

Kidman got a win or two in the feud but Hogan still went over and/or dominated enough of the feud so Kidman never got a real star making rub from it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Is the book accurate? It was written by the WrestleCrap guy.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The cruiserweights can cruiser wait, brother.

[Emperor Smeat]

Is the book accurate? It was written by the WrestleCrap guy.

Been years since I read the original book but I'd say yeah overall. Really good book about the history of WCW and didn't come off as just being WWE-like revisionist history or a dirtsheet focused book for stuff.

Even has stuff about WWE to show what was happening there during certain moments and periods in WCW.

[DaveWadding]

Is the book accurate? It was written by the WrestleCrap guy.

Written by the WrestleCrap guy and Bryan Alvarez....

[owenbrown]

A SHOW BABY!!



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I think Miz should be back on the road to maybe another WWE World Title in the future.

[Sixx]

I think the Rise & Fall of WCW book explained why Hogan-Kidman feud happened and mainly due to Hogan getting a lot of heat for always holding down talent or hogging the spotlight. Hogan wanted to prove that wasn't the case and he had no problem making new stars.

Kidman got a win or two in the feud but Hogan still went over and/or dominated enough of the feud so Kidman never got a real star making rub from it.

fair enough. still, why would he pick kidman exactly? that made zero sense.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

fair enough. still, why would he pick kidman exactly? that made zero sense.

He was actually pretty damn over along with the rest of the filthy animals and Rey had already been involved with bigger talent.

[Sixx]

meh. why was scott steiner a part of the new blood? hardly a newcomer.

just admit it, it was fucking awful. all of it.

[erickman]

meh. why was scott steiner a part of the new blood? hardly a newcomer.

just admit it, it was fucking awful. all of it.

Yep Russo sucks

[Rammsteinmad]

I think Miz should be back on the road to maybe another WWE World Title in the future.

I wouldn't be against that, to be honest. :yes:

[Evil Vito]

meh. why was scott steiner a part of the new blood? hardly a newcomer.

just admit it, it was fucking awful. all of it.

It was a terrible angle but I can understand Steiner being in the New Blood. He had yet to get a main event run despite being with the company for ages.

[Mr. Nerfect]

fair enough. still, why would he pick kidman exactly? that made zero sense.

Hogan was a master politician. He was really good at picking his spots, knowing when to be on television and when not to be. He would do strategic jobs that would make it look like he was helping a guy out, but would really be setting them up to either fail, or at least not succeed on a level where a company ever felt secure in their decision to drop emphasis on Hogan.

It wouldn't surprise me if Hogan knew that Kidman would never be a top guy, so he felt that putting him over would come off as comical and never sacrifice much ground while still technically doing his duty.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think Miz should be back on the road to maybe another WWE World Title in the future.

Eh, I'd be careful what you wish for. There's a difference between Mid-Card Miz and Main Event Miz. Part of The Miz's charm is that he's a fun mid-card act that can get his ass kicked by an indy darling babyface and get your average crowd invested. He's got a lot of value to the company in that sense, but I don't think he's really someone to build around.

I'm still expecting him to head into WrestleMania with the IC Title and be forced into a multi-man Ladder Match by Daniel Bryan. I think he dropped the belt to Ambrose to "refresh" that "last shot" stip with Dolph Ziggler, so that he can be inserted into that Ladder Match too, with Miz complaining the whole time.

Truth be told, I can see Miz retaining the belt at Mania and then losing it to Nakamura on the post-Mania SmackDown. Then maybe they swap the IC and US Titles between RAW and SmackDown, since they are the only belts that aren't "branded."

[XL]

SDL is really quite good at moving their pieces around the board so I wouldn't be surprised to see Miz get a crack at a face WWE Champion, but equally he's called the IC Title "his" so he's got plenty of reason to keep chasing that down/come back to it. He's also got this whole deal against the SDL brand/Bryan/Renee Young. Could they do Miz vs. Shane (defending his GM) at Mania? With the IC Title on the line? With the added stip that if Shane wins Miz stays on SDL with an ironclad contract that means he can't be drafted to Raw, and if Miz wins he goes to Raw with the prestigious Intercontinental Championship. Would that be decent for the Mania undercard?

[Mr. Nerfect]

It falls into the same problem as a lot of potential Miz matches, in that there is always something better for the other guy if they are anything close to a star. When it comes to the rumored Shane matches (Brock Lesnar, Dean Ambrose and AJ Styles), all of them are more exciting and bigger deals than Miz facing Shane would be. Not that it would be bad or anything.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I actually disagree that SmackDown is good at moving their pieces around. I think they just randomly shove people into WWE Title matches and hope for the best. I know it's the darling show at the moment, but it's hard to get enthused about Ziggler and Ambrose as main event stars when they spend so much time swapping mid-card titles with The Miz.

I do honestly think it would have been better once Ziggler had won the IC Title for him to put it on the line against Styles in an "All or Nothing" scenario for him and Styles to walk away with all the gold and all the focus as the male singles champion on the show.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I actually gave a shit about Ziggler and Miz matche since the brand split and I haven't in years. It's all well written.

I'd rather have a random element in the title picture like Corbin as long as they've been winning matches. Keeps things fresh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I saw one of their matches -- I think it was Backlash. It was good and it felt "better" than the endless series they've had in the past. It would be stretching it to say that I gave a shit.

The problem is that you'll have Corbin lose an IC Title match, then get a WWE Title shot, then win the IC Title. None of the title wins really feel like a big deal, except for the WWE Title, which has been firmly planted on Styles, despite the non-title losses to a jobber.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Corbin hasn't competed for the IC title though? He had a good, competitive series against Kalisto where he came up the decisive winner (unlike that 50/50 crap on Raw) and is now barging himself into the main event. There's no reason he can't hang with the likes of Cena and AJ but come up short and drop back down, maybe then go for the IC title before working back up to the main event guys.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It was a hypothetical. He did lose a contender's match against Crews and Kalisto, I believe, but that at the beginning of the draft, so it is fresh to me but probably not to everyone else. But that's just a technicality. There's nothing wrong with a guy moving around the card, it's just the pacing and the presentation of it is very "quick" on SmackDown, and frankly rather arbitrary.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Been getting back into wrestling podcasts. Am I missing any good ones?

-Austin Show
-JR Show
-Squared Circle
-Jim Cornette Expierence.
-Bruce Prichard.

[owenbrown]

I wonder if this is all a way for perhaps Miz chasing Jericho for most IC title reigns?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Been getting back into wrestling podcasts. Am I missing any good ones?

-Austin Show
-JR Show
-Squared Circle
-Jim Cornette Expierence.
-Bruce Prichard.

I like a few of the MLW ones. MSL is a smart cookie and he does a fun show with Kevin Sullivan, who rambles about shit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I wonder if this is all a way for perhaps Miz chasing Jericho for most IC title reigns?

I'm sure Miz will get there eventually; not as sure it is a primary goal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What is Bruce Prichard's podcast like? I should probably just listen to it, but I just haven't for whatever reason.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, and I do like Killing the Town with Lance Storm and Cyrus. I've skipped the Deletion one and the Omega interviews, but may even come back to them. Generally speaking it is fun to hear them talk about professional wrestling. I find them "on point" most of the time. They seem to really love Shane Douglas.

[XL]

Been getting back into wrestling podcasts. Am I missing any good ones?

-Austin Show
-JR Show
-Squared Circle
-Jim Cornette Expierence.
-Bruce Prichard.
I still listen to Cabana, it has a different flavour to JR's regular "I know better than you"/"what did you think of Goldberg/Lesnar"/impressions routine, and he has guests that don't usually do the rounds with Jericho/Austin/JR.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What is Bruce Prichard's podcast like? I should probably just listen to it, but I just haven't for whatever reason.

He and Conrad from the Flair show talk in depth about events about a wrestler or a particular show from all the angles. Think Squared Circle but the guy was there.

They recently talked for about 2 and a half to 3 hours talking about Ted DiBiase (not an interview but Conrad somewhat implied he talked to Ted beforehand) from his entire run WWWF, Feud With Duggan in the south and WWF. They argued because Prichard refused to admit that Virgil was a rib on Dusty Rhodes. Conrad wasn't buying it. Also with Rio Rogers it is easy to call bullshit on it.

[XL]

I actually disagree that SmackDown is good at moving their pieces around. I think they just randomly shove people into WWE Title matches and hope for the best. I know it's the darling show at the moment, but it's hard to get enthused about Ziggler and Ambrose as main event stars when they spend so much time swapping mid-card titles with The Miz.

I do honestly think it would have been better once Ziggler had won the IC Title for him to put it on the line against Styles in an "All or Nothing" scenario for him and Styles to walk away with all the gold and all the focus as the male singles champion on the show.

It's not perfect by any means but as a comparison to Raw...

Turning Ziggler, moving the IC Title on to Ambrose, and inserting Corbin into the main event mix is more progression in one episode than Raw's 4 person main event scene has managed in a month.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Does Raw and Smackdown have completely separate and "sequestered" writing teams?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Does Raw and Smackdown have completely separate and "sequestered" writing teams?

They have different heads of, and Vince/Steph are less involved with SD. They fired the overall head of creative and the guy that heads up Smackdown is the former NXT writer who created things like that awesome Zayn/Neville feud and the debut of Owens.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/zVf2Zcm.jpg

[Sixx]

is wendy's matt's sponsor or something?

would explain why he's the fat one.

[Bad News Gertner]

What is Bruce Prichard's podcast like? I should probably just listen to it, but I just haven't for whatever reason.

Bruce Prichard is a gigantic bullshitter. His podcast is unlistenable. Fake arguments with Conrad bleh.

[Bad News Gertner]

Been getting back into wrestling podcasts. Am I missing any good ones?

-Austin Show
-JR Show
-Squared Circle
-Jim Cornette Expierence.
-Bruce Prichard.

6:05 Superpodcast and Between the Sheets are hands down the best wrestling podcasts around.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Host of the Superpodcast is Jims cohost. He seems to know his shit.

[XL]

It falls into the same problem as a lot of potential Miz matches, in that there is always something better for the other guy if they are anything close to a star. When it comes to the rumored Shane matches (Brock Lesnar, Dean Ambrose and AJ Styles), all of them are more exciting and bigger deals than Miz facing Shane would be. Not that it would be bad or anything.
Heh. The idea came to me literally as I was writing the first part of the post (about Miz getting a main event role) so no great shakes if it's not a "good idea".

Ideally you'd get Bryan vs. Miz as thats what the story dictates...but I'm assuming that won't happen. I'm also assuming they're going with Brock/Berg which scuppers the Brock/Shane match. And this idea comes from the idea that they'd be treating us to AJ vs. HBK (the stories have one common thread in my head).

Personally I think Ambrose has taken a bit of step back from where he was earlier in 2016, where as Miz is on the rise so he'd be my priority for a feature match (plus, you pay off the Bryan stuff, and put the IC Title in a focused match - three for the price of one).

[Ruien]

I actually disagree that SmackDown is good at moving their pieces around. I think they just randomly shove people into WWE Title matches and hope for the best. I know it's the darling show at the moment, but it's hard to get enthused about Ziggler and Ambrose as main event stars when they spend so much time swapping mid-card titles with The Miz.

I do honestly think it would have been better once Ziggler had won the IC Title for him to put it on the line against Styles in an "All or Nothing" scenario for him and Styles to walk away with all the gold and all the focus as the male singles champion on the show.

I think that has to do more with the lack of bodies on Smackdown.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Vastardikai]

https://abload.de/img/1483479721160lqqa0.gif

Yano is probably one of my favorite counterpoints to the "Japanese Wrestlers have no personality" trope.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the video of my son Logan asking <a href="https://twitter.com/FinnBalor">@FinnBalor</a> a question and getting overwhelmed but Finn comes down to help him out. <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon">@VinceMcMahon</a> <a href="https://t.co/5X2NDRehrb">pic.twitter.com/5X2NDRehrb</a></p>&mdash; SpeedyB97 (@SpeedyHot1079) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpeedyHot1079/status/818345105828483072">January 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yano is probably one of my favorite counterpoints to the "Japanese Wrestlers have no personality" trope.

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[Innovator]

http://i.imgur.com/UhW6MAF.jpg

[The CyNick]

What is Bruce Prichard's podcast like? I should probably just listen to it, but I just haven't for whatever reason.

Listen to it, you'll be upset when he exposes your dirt sheet heroes as being frauds.

[Innovator]

Listen to it, you'll be upset when he exposes your dirt sheet heroes as being frauds.

Worst xbox game ever

[The CyNick]

They have different heads of, and Vince/Steph are less involved with SD. They fired the overall head of creative and the guy that heads up Smackdown is the former NXT writer who created things like that awesome Zayn/Neville feud and the debut of Owens.

Lol

If it has WWE in it, Vince is HEAVILY involved.

[Jordan]

I like X-Pac's podcast

[Blonde Moment]

The attitude era is over, they need to get rid of the 15+ min promos
No one gives a shit

[Jordan]

The attitude era is over, they need to get rid of the 15+ min promos
No one gives a shit

I wish we could get old school interviews to progress stories rather than in ring theatre.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The attitude era is over, they need to get rid of the 15+ min promos
No one gives a shit

It progressively comes off as high school theater and a bunch of dudes that are afraid to get into a fight too. Austin or The Rock talking shit this is not. Hell, did Austin even do monologues? That was like Triple H's thing and even then it was pretty shit. But it was "his thing." Like, Triple H was a mustache-twirling narcissist who liked to get under his opponent's skin and remind them of the power he wielded by taking the platform. It doesn't really make sense for babyface Seth Rollins to do that.

Most of the time it accomplishes nothing that a screen saying "Seth Rollins is going to fight Kevin Owens tonight" would. This makes it redundant. This violates cardinal rules of television right there. You don't watch a character taking a shit unless it serves a purpose. It's frustrating, because WWE tries to move away from being professional wrestling, but as far as legitimate entertainment goes, they'd actually be on-point if they had a professional wrestling format.

And Vince might get the final say, but he can't write everything, and you can feel the writers' hands in the insults. Feels like the sort of barbs someone would write for Hannah Montana. Fucking weak sauce. You don't need swearing, but you at least need to be able to convey two people really don't like each other. It's so...performative, but with no real charisma.

When you are over, you are able to get away with a lot. The Rock could take a shit in the ring and get a standing ovation. During the Attitude era, wrestling was over. They could get away with a lot of stupid, wacky insulting stuff. People count the hits and not the misses. We remember Austin and the beer truck fondly, so we brush over "choppy, choppy your pee-pee." But they've kept the choppy-choppy stuff without any of the beer truck stuff and wonder why it isn't anywhere near as hot in 2017. It's because you aren't over and the misses are registering.

I'm not even talking huge stuff, but seemingly benign things that we are used to as wrestling fans that I bet turns potential new fans off the show. The big one that gets me is the backstage soliloquy. The camera just happens to be on Stephanie McMahon comfortably talking on the phone as a babyface walks into her traveling office to get eviscerated. Why are the cameras on her? Why doesn't she care? How low does the self-esteem of a wrestler have to be that they'd play along with that set-up? If the cameras are "invisible," then it's implied they all inhabit a fictional world, but as we all know, kayfabe is dead. Stephanie McMahon is the villain that hates Bayley and the hero that loves sick kids all in the same night, on the same show, in the same world.

I seriously wonder how many times Joe Fan turns over, remembering the buzz he's heard about wrestling, or to check out that Brock Lesnar guy he keeps hearing about, only to see something like this go down and respond emotionally with "This makes me uncomfortable." They're constantly crossing over the axis of their own continuity and doing shit which is clearly fake in a company that still depends on emotional investment by suspending disbelief. People believe The Rock can kick ass so he could get away with it; but if they don't believe you can kick ass, you're not going to get over by doing it first.

[The CyNick]

I wish we could get old school interviews to progress stories rather than in ring theatre.

I think a balance is good. Also tougher with three hours vs two. That one SDL flew by where they booked basically only a few big matches, they all got time, and didn't need a lot of funny business.

But you can't do that every week and then be able to differentiate your PPVs.

[The CyNick]

It progressively comes off as high school theater and a bunch of dudes that are afraid to get into a fight too. Austin or The Rock talking shit this is not. Hell, did Austin even do monologues? That was like Triple H's thing and even then it was pretty shit. But it was "his thing." Like, Triple H was a mustache-twirling narcissist who liked to get under his opponent's skin and remind them of the power he wielded by taking the platform. It doesn't really make sense for babyface Seth Rollins to do that.

Most of the time it accomplishes nothing that a screen saying "Seth Rollins is going to fight Kevin Owens tonight" would. This makes it redundant. This violates cardinal rules of television right there. You don't watch a character taking a shit unless it serves a purpose. It's frustrating, because WWE tries to move away from being professional wrestling, but as far as legitimate entertainment goes, they'd actually be on-point if they had a professional wrestling format.

And Vince might get the final say, but he can't write everything, and you can feel the writers' hands in the insults. Feels like the sort of barbs someone would write for Hannah Montana. Fucking weak sauce. You don't need swearing, but you at least need to be able to convey two people really don't like each other. It's so...performative, but with no real charisma.

Sounds like someone who thinks the WWE only has an audience of one. Meanwhile if you look at their demos, they are actually very strong with a wide variety of demos, therefore you need to have different types of segments that appeal to different people.

It's like SNL, which I used to watch religiously. I have hated it now for well over a decade, so I don't watch. But when I did, I didn't like every sketch. I would say on average I probably only ever liked half the sketches on a given show. But I still enjoyed it overall enough to keep watching. Once it got to where there was more bad than good, I found other things to do on Saturday nights. I couldn't imagine being a person watching the show every week only to complain online. That would make me such a loser. Not that you would know what that's like.

[BigCrippyZ]

It progressively comes off as high school theater and a bunch of dudes that are afraid to get into a fight too. Austin or The Rock talking shit this is not. Hell, did Austin even do monologues? That was like Triple H's thing and even then it was pretty shit. But it was "his thing." Like, Triple H was a mustache-twirling narcissist who liked to get under his opponent's skin and remind them of the power he wielded by taking the platform. It doesn't really make sense for babyface Seth Rollins to do that.

Most of the time it accomplishes nothing that a screen saying "Seth Rollins is going to fight Kevin Owens tonight" would. This makes it redundant. This violates cardinal rules of television right there. You don't watch a character taking a shit unless it serves a purpose. It's frustrating, because WWE tries to move away from being professional wrestling, but as far as legitimate entertainment goes, they'd actually be on-point if they had a professional wrestling format.

And Vince might get the final say, but he can't write everything, and you can feel the writers' hands in the insults. Feels like the sort of barbs someone would write for Hannah Montana. Fucking weak sauce. You don't need swearing, but you at least need to be able to convey two people really don't like each other. It's so...performative, but with no real charisma.

When you are over, you are able to get away with a lot. The Rock could take a shit in the ring and get a standing ovation. During the Attitude era, wrestling was over. They could get away with a lot of stupid, wacky insulting stuff. People count the hits and not the misses. We remember Austin and the beer truck fondly, so we brush over "choppy, choppy your pee-pee." But they've kept the choppy-choppy stuff without any of the beer truck stuff and wonder why it isn't anywhere near as hot in 2017. It's because you aren't over and the misses are registering.

I'm not even talking huge stuff, but seemingly benign things that we are used to as wrestling fans that I bet turns potential new fans off the show. The big one that gets me is the backstage soliloquy. The camera just happens to be on Stephanie McMahon comfortably talking on the phone as a babyface walks into her traveling office to get eviscerated. Why are the cameras on her? Why doesn't she care? How low does the self-esteem of a wrestler have to be that they'd play along with that set-up? If the cameras are "invisible," then it's implied they all inhabit a fictional world, but as we all know, kayfabe is dead. Stephanie McMahon is the villain that hates Bayley and the hero that loves sick kids all in the same night, on the same show, in the same world.

I seriously wonder how many times Joe Fan turns over, remembering the buzz he's heard about wrestling, or to check out that Brock Lesnar guy he keeps hearing about, only to see something like this go down and respond emotionally with "This makes me uncomfortable." They're constantly crossing over the axis of their own continuity and doing shit which is clearly fake in a company that still depends on emotional investment by suspending disbelief. People believe The Rock can kick ass so he could get away with it; but if they don't believe you can kick ass, you're not going to get over by doing it first.

Damn good synopsis Noid.

[The CyNick]

Turns out Jeffrey Dean Morgan is actually a nice person in real life. You can see this on Talking Dead, which appears on the same channel as Walking Dead (immediately after it, often advertised during the show). I don't think people who watch TD have a problem staying in the storyline that they want to see the good guys on TWD get revenge on him for killing their beloved characters.

It's pretty easy to comprehend the backstage stuff. The show is essentially an all access look at a sports entertainment company. Stephanie taking to talent is part of the show. The talent do it, because it's part of a script. The character of say Seth Rollins has to go into the meeting with Steph in front of the cameras, no different than they have to fight in front of the cameras. Most sports leagues nowadays have behind the scenes access shows that depict players get yelled at, praised, etc.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Serious thoughts:

* Big E should get his "Langston" back. He should call his fans "The Langston Nation."

* Neville needs a better name. He might as well be called "George." It could be Adrian, but it could also be anything else. Red Arrow Neville; Next Level Neville; Serious Neville Delirious; Geordie Lordie Neville; Mr. Neville; Sir Neville Tonedbottom. Anything.

* Cesaro can stay Cesaro though. Unless he calls himself "Tony Cesaro," because that would be awesome.

[Emperor Smeat]

Sounds like someone who thinks the WWE only has an audience of one. Meanwhile if you look at their demos, they are actually very strong with a wide variety of demos, therefore you need to have different types of segments that appeal to different people.

:rofl:

The only strong demos they have is old people and kids who like Cena. That's it.

[Innovator]

Serious thoughts:

* Big E should get his "Langston" back. He should call his fans "The Langston Nation."

* Neville needs a better name. He might as well be called "George." It could be Adrian, but it could also be anything else. Red Arrow Neville; Next Level Neville; Serious Neville Delirious; Geordie Lordie Neville; Mr. Neville; Sir Neville Tonedbottom. Anything.

* Cesaro can stay Cesaro though. Unless he calls himself "Tony Cesaro," because that would be awesome.

Big Tony

[Droford]

http://i.imgur.com/zVf2Zcm.jpg

Wendys should give heath Slater a job while he's recouperating

[The CyNick]

:rofl:

The only strong demos they have is old people and kids who like Cena. That's it.

Visit a TV ratings site and educate yourself. Then we'll discuss.

[Emperor Smeat]

You mean the same stuff I usually do whenever I want to read and post the weekly RAW and Smackdown ratings/viewership on TPWW?

[Sixx]

wait, has anything changed lately?

i thought cynick was always right. and righter than whoever is right.

[Lock Jaw]

MEANWHILE

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[Droford]

Giving maryland a bad rep

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bruce Prichard is a gigantic bullshitter. His podcast is unlistenable. Fake arguments with Conrad bleh.

Holy fuck, you're telling me. I had to stop with the TNA one and instead listening to the 1997 Royal Rumble, because I find that more interesting. I have no doubt Prichard knows his shit, but he comes off like he's avoiding talking about anything. I actually liked listening to Conrad, but their arguments never solved anything. Prichard just goes "Yeah, whatever."

I'll force myself to listen to more, because I'm a masochist that loves wrestling, but I heard lots of good things about it and then found it a bit tedious. It's good to know where CyNick gets his gimmick from though. ;)

[The CyNick]

You mean the same stuff I usually do whenever I want to read and post the weekly RAW and Smackdown ratings/viewership on TPWW?

I dunno what you do, I don't pay attention to your stuff, you're just another guy to me. But if you did, you would know they do very well with just about every demo.

I just took a look at SDL this past week. #3 in people 18-49. #6 in women 18-49. #2 in men 18-49. #1 in people 18-34. #4 in women 12-34. #1 in men 12-34. #5 in people 25-54. Looks like #12 in people 50+.

If you count kids as a portion of the 12-34 demo, okay, but it's a small portion of that demo. And the oldest demo was SDLs worst. They do real well with adults overall.

Comment?

[Mr. Nerfect]

MEANWHILE

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Mojo Rawley strikes me as a giant douche. Like, I imagine he means well, but he's the sort of guy that I'd find insufferable to hang around. Real hyper jock type. Dude could be an awesome heel.

[XL]

I dunno what you do, I don't pay attention to your stuff, you're just another guy to me. But if you did, you would know they do very well with just about every demo.

I just took a look at SDL this past week. #3 in people 18-49. #6 in women 18-49. #2 in men 18-49. #1 in people 18-34. #4 in women 12-34. #1 in men 12-34. #5 in people 25-54. Looks like #12 in people 50+.

If you count kids as a portion of the 12-34 demo, okay, but it's a small portion of that demo. And the oldest demo was SDLs worst. They do real well with adults overall.

Comment?
Do the really carve up demographics like that? Is the overlap between 18-49 and 18-34 and 25-54 necessary?

[A.J.K]

I would like to see Goldust get at least a universal title reign once. The guy is still dedicated after all these years and stays in great shape.

[Emperor Smeat]

Do the really carve up demographics like that? Is the overlap between 18-49 and 18-34 and 25-54 necessary?

Yes, demos have their own breakdowns and overlaps if you want to get really technically with the numbers. The most important one is always the 18-35 range since that is usually what advertisers care the most for.

Also can be a really great way to prove whatever positive point trying to be made in an argument.

[The CyNick]

Do the really carve up demographics like that? Is the overlap between 18-49 and 18-34 and 25-54 necessary?

Yeah, I mean I dont know if necessary is the way to look at it, but those are major measures. As you can see WWE does well in all of them. Unlike what some people try to have you believe.

[The CyNick]

Yes, demos have their own breakdowns and overlaps if you want to get really technically with the numbers. The most important one is always the 18-35 range since that is usually what advertisers care the most for.

Also can be a really great way to prove whatever positive point trying to be made in an argument.

Well at least you are better educated on the subject now, and you can make more informed posts. This is my gift to you. Use it wisely.

[Cool King]

* Neville needs a better name. He might as well be called "George." It could be Adrian, but it could also be anything else. Red Arrow Neville; Next Level Neville; Serious Neville Delirious; Geordie Lordie Neville; Mr. Neville; Sir Neville Tonedbottom. Anything.

I've always hated Neville's name.

I remember typing up a long post a year or so ago about his name that I was just going to quote it here as I'm feeling lazy at the moment but I can't find it.

Basically, I said that his name is not intimidating at all. If you're going to fight a guy and you find out his name is Neville, you would probably have a wee laugh to yourself and think that you've got the fight in the bag already.

Neville is a weak name. It's posh, dweeby and comical.

A few ideas here, but a complete name change would probably help add a lot to his current character, but maybe also a shortening of his name could help too. Maybe just "Nev" would work?

Maybe a name like "Arrow" or "The Arrow" would probably help too? Along with referring to himself as the king of the cruiserweights, have him refer to himself as "The Arrow" until eventually it becomes his name.

Anything would be better than "Neville" anyway.

[A.J.K]

I've always hated Neville's name.

I remember typing up a long post a year or so ago about his name that I was just going to quote it here as I'm feeling lazy at the moment but I can't find it.

Basically, I said that his name is not intimidating at all. If you're going to fight a guy and you find out his name is Neville, you would probably have a wee laugh to yourself and think that you've got the fight in the bag already.

Neville is a weak name. It's posh, dweeby and comical.

A few ideas here, but a complete name change would probably help add a lot to his current character, but maybe also a shortening of his name could help too. Maybe just "Nev" would work?

Maybe a name like "Arrow" or "The Arrow" would probably help too? Along with referring to himself as the king of the cruiserweights, have him refer to himself as "The Arrow" until eventually it becomes his name.

Anything would be better than "Neville" anyway.

Copyright on Arrow, maybe Arrow King or Adrian Blade, perhaps?

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe a name like "Arrow" or "The Arrow" would probably help too? Along with referring to himself as the king of the cruiserweights, have him refer to himself as "The Arrow" until eventually it becomes his name.

Would this lead to a feud vs. former tag team partner Stephen Amell?

[Wishbone]

I've always hated Neville's name.

I remember typing up a long post a year or so ago about his name that I was just going to quote it here as I'm feeling lazy at the moment but I can't find it.

Basically, I said that his name is not intimidating at all. If you're going to fight a guy and you find out his name is Neville, you would probably have a wee laugh to yourself and think that you've got the fight in the bag already.

Neville is a weak name. It's posh, dweeby and comical.

A few ideas here, but a complete name change would probably help add a lot to his current character, but maybe also a shortening of his name could help too. Maybe just "Nev" would work?

Maybe a name like "Arrow" or "The Arrow" would probably help too? Along with referring to himself as the king of the cruiserweights, have him refer to himself as "The Arrow" until eventually it becomes his name.

Anything would be better than "Neville" anyway.

"The Red Arrow" Adrian Archer, King of the Cruiserweights.

[Vastardikai]

Anything would be better than "Neville" anyway.

Challenge Accepted:

Chilly McFreeze
Ice Dagger
Baron Von Ruthless
Eli Cottonwood
Lucky Cannon
Husky Harris
Michael McGuillicutty

[Big Vic]

I know 2 matches that are taking place on SDL tonight

Cena vs Corbin
Tag Title match.

Can't remember the last time I knew 2 matches taking place on Raw.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/T4OKFvh.jpg

The part timer rumble!

AJ is not amused.

[Mercenary]

Drax Shadow is dead http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/sad-news-about-young-wwe-fan/

[Evil Vito]

Fuck :(

[Black Widow]

http://i.imgur.com/T4OKFvh.jpg

The part timer rumble!

AJ is not amused.Are Sasha, Charlotte and Baylee gonna be surprise entrants?

[Bad News Gertner]

Fack! Should have picked Drax is the Deadpool

[Cool King]

I just got Raw spoiled for me.

I've waited and waited for Jericho to win the US Title and when he does, it gets spoiled for me.
I'm pretty disappointed, I won't lie.

[Big Vic]

Who spoiled it?

[Cool King]

Google.

https://s29.postimg.org/n3n9zug6f/image.png

[Emperor Smeat]

http://i.imgur.com/qI5hiL4.png

[Big Vic]

Roman will get his rematch next week.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/b53f1dcbac9d5a0e0e12a3c4af684180/tumblr_ojj17r0wuE1u1ljrzo1_500.gif

[Volare]

George Jettson = Roman Reigns

[Mercenary]

Former WWE and WCW wrestler Timothy Smith(AKA Rex King & Timothy) passed on Monday due to complications from kidney failure. He was 55 years old.

Smith is known to WWE fans for his Well Dunn tag team with Steve Doll. Smith last worked for WWE in 1995. Hewas named as one of the wrestlers in the class-action lawsuit filed by lawyer Konstantine Kyros back in July of 2016, alleging that WWE concealed the risks of traumatic brain injuries.

[Mercenary]

So WEll Dunn is Well.....DONE

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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Bo Dallas packaged as Tito Santana...ArriBO!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/b53f1dcbac9d5a0e0e12a3c4af684180/tumblr_ojj17r0wuE1u1ljrzo1_500.gif

He even turns heel in cartoons.

[Droford]

I think CJ Lunde was a rip on RAW

Wore red
Lunde sorta sounds like Lundi which is Monday in french

[Droford]

Former WWE and WCW wrestler Timothy Smith(AKA Rex King & Timothy) passed on Monday due to complications from kidney failure. He was 55 years old.

Smith is known to WWE fans for his Well Dunn tag team with Steve Doll. Smith last worked for WWE in 1995. Hewas named as one of the wrestlers in the class-action lawsuit filed by lawyer Konstantine Kyros back in July of 2016, alleging that WWE concealed the risks of traumatic brain injuries.

$2,500
Chris Irvine
3 hours ago
Rex was a good guy who was always good to me! Hopefully he has found peace and is with the Lord now. -CJ


https://www.gofundme.com/wwf-rex-king-died-0109-destitute

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Looks like DAMN could have found his money mark. #PS4IsJericho

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Was looking forward to Steve Austin show today but Meltzer is on. Gonna jerk off about WrestleKingdom 11 for hours. Bleh. Got enough of that here.

:y: Drew Galloway on the JR Show.

Alex Riley had a great episode last week. Confirmed his heat with John Cena that ruined his career.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Can you elaborate STD?

[thecc]

He's awful. That's pretty much it.

[Bad News Gertner]

I think CJ Lunde was a rip on RAW

Wore red
Lunde sorta sounds like Lundi which is Monday in french

Marty Lunde is Arn Anderson's real name

[XL]

Can you elaborate STD?

Riley didn't go into detail. Just said there was an issue that derailed his career.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Riley had some stuff down that you can't teach, but you couldn't teach him the teachable stuff.

[Evil Vito]

Was looking forward to Steve Austin show today but Meltzer is on. Gonna jerk off about WrestleKingdom 11 for hours. Bleh. Got enough of that here.

And rightly so.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Think I would rather listen to someone literally jerk off for hours than watch Raw.

[Evil Vito]

Alex Riley was fantastic at the little things right off the bat. He knew where the camera was at all times and made sure to play to it at the right moments. Good talker, great look, all that. He looked like an absolute star when he turned face on The Miz and they gave him a badass entrance theme the next week.

But unfortunately the man was the drizzling shits in the ring. Even without the Cena stuff happening, he wasn't going to be prominently featured for very long when it became obvious he couldn't work.

That he didn't improve at all despite being assigned back to the Performance Center and having world-class instruction to learn from is really telling.

[Evil Vito]

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I doubt a wrestling segment will ever confuse me more than this. 6.5 years on and I still have no idea what the fuck they were going for.

[Evil Vito]

I assume the idea was that everybody simply gang up on Kaval and stand triumphantly in the ring. I'd even heard that maybe there was going to be a Genesis stable on SmackDown to counter Nexus on Raw.

Instead you have Eli Cottonwood disappearing after the slightest bit of resistance, Titus O'Neil completely no-selling the Player's Boot, and Alex Riley attacking Percy Watson only for Watson to get back up and just go back to kicking Kaval.

What the fuck?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I doubt a wrestling segment will ever confuse me more than this. 6.5 years on and I still have no idea what the fuck they were going for.

How about when Kaval used his guaranteed shot at any title to go for the IC title?

[Blue Demon]

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[Evil Vito]

How about when Kaval used his guaranteed shot at any title to go for the IC title?

A bit daft but he did make that announcement immediately after beating Dolph clean. Kane and Orton were the World Champions at that point, so not exactly the best time to try to go for one of those belts.

Would've been a bit more sensible if Kaval had a time limit or something to use his title shot.

[Evil Vito]

I also just remembered Kaval earning a spot on Team SmackDown for Bragging Rights only to immediately lose it to the re-debuting Tyler Reks. Eric Escobar was scheduled to be on that SmackDown team as well.

Holy hell SmackDown's roster was weak.

[Big Vic]

Why did Cena hate A-ri?

[Nicky Fives]

Kaval could have been great in WWE if he was booked half-ways decent, especially if you gave him a mouthpiece.... Didn't even had to be a good one, could have been Layla at the time.... "my man may be little, but he'll mess you up" type thing....

[Innovator]

Why did Cena hate A-ri?

He ribbed Riley and Riley flew off the handle

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Was looking forward to Steve Austin show today but Meltzer is on. Gonna jerk off about WrestleKingdom 11 for hours. Bleh. Got enough of that here.

Austin was busy jerking himself off over it

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[Vastardikai]

Alex Riley was fantastic at the little things right off the bat. He knew where the camera was at all times and made sure to play to it at the right moments. Good talker, great look, all that. He looked like an absolute star when he turned face on The Miz and they gave him a badass entrance theme the next week.

But unfortunately the man was the drizzling shits in the ring. Even without the Cena stuff happening, he wasn't going to be prominently featured for very long when it became obvious he couldn't work.

That he didn't improve at all despite being assigned back to the Performance Center and having world-class instruction to learn from is really telling.

I think the actual point is this: anyone can look like a star by turning on Miz.

Favorite Ridley moment was when he tried to sandbag the Swagger-bomb. And Jack, with a little trouble, got him down anyway.

[Big Vic]

He ribbed Riley and Riley flew off the handle
Hmm apparantly the rib was just Cena teasing Alex... If that's the case come on bro grow some thick skin.

[screech]

Was looking forward to Steve Austin show today but Meltzer is on. Gonna jerk off about WrestleKingdom 11 for hours. Bleh. Got enough of that here

Did you watch any of it?

[Ultra Mantis]

Kaval could have been great in WWE if he was booked half-ways decent....

Legit knocking Ziggler unconscious with a reckless kick to the face during the opening minute of his PPV debut probably didn't to him any favours.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did you watch any of it?

No not yet. Was going to wait for JR in case they put Yoshi Yes Tatsu out there.

Don't think it could possibly match the hype it had gotten.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hmm apparantly the rib was just Cena teasing Alex... If that's the case come on bro grow some thick skin.

I heard it was something like offline Internet trolling. Riley simply had enough and it went Cents way. The same way Owen is blamed here instead of his tormentors. I cannot elborate cause Ripley said the time wasn't right.

[Lock Jaw]

https://i.redd.it/r3l534s7a09y.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Blonde Moment]

We need the Jumping Bomb Angels in the HOF

[slik]

Dave Meltzer's ten likes on twitter are all weird:

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/likes

[Emperor Smeat]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/5d73f65b8664159fad26262d88fc3b74/tumblr_ojmkvwtCbS1u9rkhoo1_400.gif

[#BROKEN Hasney]

New York Times: Peter Thiel, Trump's Tech Pal, Explains Himself (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/fashion/peter-thiel-donald-trump-silicon-valley-technology-gawker.html)

http://i.imgur.com/lwSaWR6l.png

[XL]

Threw out all my old wrestling VHS today. #LeaveTheMemorexAlone

[Jordan]

Threw out all my old wrestling VHS today. #LeaveTheMemorexAlone

:'(

[Innovator]

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/screen-shot-2017-01-12-at-11-18-48-am.jpg?quality=90&w=650

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That's a big pot of cancer