"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[GD]

I've got a feeling that if The Rock does come back and wrestle at WrestleMania 35 (which I am dubious about) to work with Roman Reigns (which I am also dubious about), then Triple H will wrestle Shawn Michaels on the show. There's no way Triple H is not going to be featured on a WrestleMania card that could potentially spike Network numbers. If he just works a filler match against a guy like Seth Rollins, he won't be able to take credit for being a part of that spike, so he'll be working with a huge name so he can be grouped in with The Rock when they announce the numbers going up. "We had The Rock vs. Roman Reigns, Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels, Ronda Rousey, John Cena, etc."

It'll be either Michaels or they'll cave and give Big Dave that call.

I would be very excited if the WWE were to accommodate Batista's request to work a program with Hunter. It is quite baffling that they haven't made any efforts to latch onto his Hollywood success.

[Emperor Smeat]

Toss Cedric Alexander to the growing pile of celebs and athletes who didn't bother to scrub their social media accounts and now have their past postings come back to haunt them.

In Cedric's case, seems his backlash is over rape jokes on Twitter from several years ago. Could be more but those were what got publicly outed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, looks like Cedric Alexander just got caught up by the twitter police...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205Live?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#205Live</a> <a href="https://t.co/jRdBIzXiS8">pic.twitter.com/jRdBIzXiS8</a></p>&mdash; Mark Out Mania | HK (@RealMarkOutHK) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMarkOutHK/status/1024403303898046464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

This is very disheartening and uncomfortable. Wow!

[Evil Vito]

Tye Dillinger too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tye Dillinger joins Cedric Alexander getting caught up by the twitter police... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLIVE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLIVE</a> <a href="https://t.co/Mw8ubdtB07">pic.twitter.com/Mw8ubdtB07</a></p>&mdash; Mark Out Mania | HK (@RealMarkOutHK) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMarkOutHK/status/1024429230967291906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

Oh God!

[screech]

My local indie is having their 25th Anniversary Show. So far they've announced D Lo Brown, John Morrison, Chris Sabin and Tommy Dreamer. Can't wait to meet Dreamer. Our indie fed is a awesome.

I met Dreamer at a signing years ago (Edge was the "headliner") and he seemed super disinterested. I know people who have had good experiences with him though, so I'm thinking I caught him on a rough day.

Also John Morrison was way bigger than I thought he'd be haha

But woooo indie feds!

[Gerard]

Tye Dillinger too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tye Dillinger joins Cedric Alexander getting caught up by the twitter police... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLIVE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLIVE</a> <a href="https://t.co/Mw8ubdtB07">pic.twitter.com/Mw8ubdtB07</a></p>&mdash; Mark Out Mania | HK (@RealMarkOutHK) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMarkOutHK/status/1024429230967291906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Must have quite the tiny dick not to wake them up...:shifty:

[slik]

I hope in the future the main roster of #WWE is booked more like NXT.

Brand new main-event scene every two years or so. Out with the old and in with the new. Mindset you need to have the same people main-eventing for a decade is outdated & toxic IMO.

[slik]

It's just like a soap-opera. A lot of characters come and go. Some, even main-event/major ones, only have 2-3 years worth of story to tell. Some might have a decade plus.

Bray is a perfect example - 2-3 years worth of good story & could have released him after that. WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people. A smaller, constantly cycled out roster would keep things fresh all the time. And you can always bring some people back, if needed, for another run down the line.

[Big Vic]

Kind of like "Oz"

[slik]

Yeah

Instead of (between RAW/SD/NXT/Performance Center) having like 200 people you pay $$$ to maybe you only have 75-100.

[Lock Jaw]

So you'd have a person in the main event for two years and then kill them off/fire them and replace them with new up-and-comers?

[Evil Vito]

That's kinda why I've been really enjoying SmackDown. Some are showcased more than others but not everyone gets featured every week, not even AJ.

[slik]

So you'd have a person in the main event for two years and then kill them off/fire them and replace them with new up-and-comers?

Basically, yeah

WWE fans have shown they are more loyal to the #brand than individual wrestlers...keep the show 'fresh' constantly.

[slik]

That's kinda why I've been really enjoying SmackDown. Some are showcased more than others but not everyone gets featured every week, not even AJ.

Exactly.

Even with it's smaller roster, you don't see everyone all the time. The Bar is a great example too. RAW, minus Ronda/Brock, trots out every big name it has every week but seems like they have nothing for them to do most of the time.

You can keep people on houseshows w/o having them on TV each week unless you need them. Just like any good tv show, let the story/creative be the base for the show.

[Big Vic]

I would have a FEW mainstays.

[slik]

Definitely a few, establishes good continuity for fans

[Lock Jaw]

slik would have fired AJ Styles by now

[slik]

WWE these days seems 'petrified' to release people b/c they are randomly paranoid about some other organization gaining a microcosm of popularity compared to WWE -- And let's be realistic, even if ROH or NJPW or IMPACT or whomever suddenly got a national TV deal on cable that was better than what they have now, said organization wouldn't come close to WWE's grasp of the market/name value, they'd just be bigger than they were before.

[slik]

slik would have fired AJ Styles by now

Not AJ, AJ would be the definition of a cornerstone.

But someone like Shinsuke I'd book as a character in the main-event scene fora solid 3 years or so and then look honestly if he was needed after that.

[#1-norm-fan]

It's sad that we're even talking about a 2 year shelf lives for guys. Hotshotting really ruined wrestling. I still feel like there's a way you can build up your midcard as more of a focus so you don't have to overexpose your top acts without sacrificing the product though.

[Evil Vito]

Well for those who hate Matt Hardy, he's been tweeting old photos from his career for about a month and then posted this today:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To all that supported me in the independents &amp; OMEGA..<br><br>To the fans of Team Xtreme..<br><br>To the Mattitude Followers..<br><br>To the OUTSPOKEN fans who brought me back in 2005..<br><br>To the people who backed me when I was REINCARNATED in pro wrestling..<br><br>To the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WOKEN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WOKEN</a> Warriors..<br><br>THANK YOU. <a href="https://t.co/YkEILcoZh8">pic.twitter.com/YkEILcoZh8</a></p>&mdash; #WOKEN Matt Hardy (@MATTHARDYBRAND) <a href="https://twitter.com/MATTHARDYBRAND/status/1024654689986461697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Appears to be teasing retirement.

[Evil Vito]

The Broken/Woken stuff just never took off in WWE for a variety of reasons...took ages to get started with it because of the legal issues, WWE not really understanding the character beyond "Matt Hardy laughs funny", etc. Plus his team with Bray doesn't seem to be particularly interesting. I'm not really sure they'd be able to salvage interest in the gimmick at this point.

But no matter how it was executed, he still got to do the gimmick in WWE which from all indications was one of his goals when he re-signed. He also got a nostalgia run with his brother which saw him get one of the biggest pops in recent memory and is the very definition of a "WrestleMania moment" the company always harps on about. He's about to turn 44 and has two young kids at home, hardly would be a surprise if he's decided to call it a career after SummerSlam.

[Innovator]

He also, you know, can't walk.

[Emperor Smeat]

It's just like a soap-opera. A lot of characters come and go. Some, even main-event/major ones, only have 2-3 years worth of story to tell. Some might have a decade plus.

Bray is a perfect example - 2-3 years worth of good story & could have released him after that. WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people. A smaller, constantly cycled out roster would keep things fresh all the time. And you can always bring some people back, if needed, for another run down the line.

4-5 years might be a better sweet spot considering that was Stone Cold's length as a quality character and the Attitude Era in general.

Biggest flaw with a 2-3 year model plan is a lot less room for error on constantly pumping out quality stars or characters due to the shorter time frame and smaller roster. Even with a few mainstays as anchors, you still are going to risk hitting a really bad downturn after a while. Not even NXT was immune to this.

[#1-norm-fan]

As far as Slik's strategy, I don't think you'd need to release guys after 2-3 years. If they worked, got over and then started to get stale, you could just transition them into a part time role in the hopes of creating that Lesnar part timer aura. It too hard to find stars to just throw them out after a couple years.

Also, fake injury angles to give guys time off, keep them fresh character-wise and stretch out storylines are underused in wrestling.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even with the great idea of a rotation type system to keep storylines and stars fresh, feels like it would just fall apart unless major changes were also done to Creative and WWE's mindset.

Right now everything pretty much revolves around Vince's mood and their desire to only have 1 big star and the brand be the main focus while everyone else is irrelevant.

[slik]

I know a lot of large cast series, like telenovelas and soaps rotate characters out. Someone gets a big story/feud for 6 months and then disappears in the background for a few months afterwards.

Would Roman feel as 'forced' if he was in the main-event only half the time and maybe the other half the time a smaller storyline/feud and house show rasslin?

[#1-norm-fan]

He wouldn't. I actually don't think Reigns himself is bad. But at the same time, to Smeat's point, there would still be issues even if he were phased out once in a while. Like those brutal scripted promos and bad booking. Without those being addressed, it's a moot point.

[slik]

Just going to double post this here and the SD thread

#GiveBeckysAChance


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[Jordan]

I'm sure he would get a different "feel" if that was the case but I don't think it would happen unless they were able to get Cena to "fill in" for that time. But then again maybe the heat would follow him right back upon his return. I think they've gotten themselves into a trap where if they don't have "the guy" they can't sell more than 4,000 tickets anywhere. You gotta have "they guy" to bring in the casual type fans. As much as we wanted to see more Hogan, it always forced people to pay to see him on PPV or on tour. I think it's smart to actually book your top babyface that way instead of the heel (Lesnar). When has it every been special to see Roman, he's there every week. It would be so easy for Cole to promote Roman as "training for his upcoming match" or working with Make a Wish, or filming a TV show or movie... whatever they want to say to make it look like he's a big star. In that case you have to push the IC title as the "workers title" so that it's defended on a somewhat regular basis on TV so that people get their title match fix. I miss those days of the strong IC draw. Guys like Razor and Bret in particular were such great babyface "almost" top guys. I miss that.

[Emperor Smeat]

I know a lot of large cast series, like telenovelas and soaps rotate characters out. Someone gets a big story/feud for 6 months and then disappears in the background for a few months afterwards.

Would Roman feel as 'forced' if he was in the main-event only half the time and maybe the other half the time a smaller storyline/feud and house show rasslin?
Maybe if WWE was a lot better at long term planning and writing. That's pretty much a key difference between WWE's Creative and soap operas or telenovelas. WWE shows very little respect to both long term stuff and continuity which is why you get Sasha vs Bayley becoming a mess of a feud.

Then you have stuff like Reigns where they already tried to push him to the side a bit or give him smaller stuff to do but never bother to fix the real issues with his character or his booking.

[slik]

Great point @ Jordan X -- and IIRC a lot of times the HBKs, Razors, Bret Harts carried house shows back in that day too...If Seth82 ever lurks and sees this he could probably verify that.

I am also wondering where Dean will go when he comes back -- but he's a guy like Seth Rollins and Balor and Elias you can load the house shows with and they all come across as big enough stars to draw.

[Bad News Gertner]

Strong IC draws are very few and far between. Nobody drew in the Bret/Shawn/Razor IC era. The IC title used to headline the B Shows for the most part.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

on another note - thick battied indy wrestler Jordynne Grace is my dream woman.

[slik]

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[Evil Vito]

July 2018 was the first month Jushin Thunder Liger didn't wrestle in since August 1995.

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[Bad News Gertner]

My local indie is having their 25th Anniversary Show. So far they've announced D Lo Brown, John Morrison, Chris Sabin and Tommy Dreamer. Can't wait to meet Dreamer. Our indie fed is a awesome.

Just announced Kiera Hogan from Impact, Eddie Edwards and Sami Callahan

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cycling talent makes a lot of sense. Especially in an era where everything is so cold. But that used to be the way things worked. You'd keep talent when they worked really well, but if they got stale, you could refresh things by sending them on their way so they could come back fresh or go somewhere else and help that place out. It doesn't mean you have to cap acts that are over and doing a great job. But you could get rid of the people that have been around for ages and just don't mean anything anymore.

[Shadrick]

on another note - thick battied indy wrestler Jordynne Grace is my dream woman.

pics pls. ive already googled but this is for my tpww brethren.

[Bad News Gertner]

Quite the husky dame

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I'm into it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/JG.jpg

she's got a booty that's forever on duty.

[Evil Vito]

She's only 22 as well. Too bad ROH wrestler Jonathan Gresham's already put a ring on it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I say we find him and kill him.

[Evil Vito]

I'd be into that feud

[Jordan]

I've jerked it to Jordynne Grace before for sure.

[Lock Jaw]

Butterface

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I actually am in love with her face.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

but I heart chubby faces.

[Evil Vito]

Trying to think of the last rasslin braud I've jerked my gerk to. In a world of Instagram models uploading 34938434 sexy pics a day I think I've kinda not had the compulsion to blast off to the women of rasslin as I did in my teens.

Pretty sure I've paid Toni Storm's page a few visits.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jordynne Grace is the last one I hobbed my knob to lol

[Jordan]

Jordynne Grace is the last one I hobbed my knob to lol

If you are looking for the PAWG type. Check out Rachel Evans. She claims not to be "just a butt", so you know it's good. I don't think she's a wrestler but a podcast host/super fan.

[Seanny One Ball]

Watching Shawn Michaels Mr. Wrestlemania DVD I got today for £4.
Could have gotten the Warrior one for £10. 7 Hours of Ultimate Warrior must be about 140 matches

[Evil Vito]

WWE has made contract offers to Pentagon and Fenix

Collecting more toys just so nobody else can have them

[Innovator]

It's gonna be only the Young Bucks left

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com//RDBcSJml.jpg

[Evil Vito]

*Pentagon does a top rope flip dive*

Cole: 'WOAH! Pentagon just loves having fun!'

Graves: 'Cero Miedo Cole!'

Coach: 'A Pentagon is a five-sided shape'

Cole: 'Pentagon in control as Raw rolls on!'

*ad break*

[Innovator]

*Pentagon does a top rope flip dive*

Cole: 'WOAH! Pentagon just loves having fun!'

Graves: 'Cero Miedo Cole!'

Coach: 'You see...in my geography classes growing up, I was always told that a Penta-'

Cole: 'Pentagon in control as Raw rolls on!'

*ad break*

[Big Vic]

Cole: And we back from break and it's been all pentagon!

Coach: The word of this hour is Pentagon

Graves: I spoke with pentagon earlier today and he told me he is excited for the all womens PPV brought to by Stephanie McMahon

Coach: The word of this hour is Stephanie McMahon

[Simple Fan]

My god I hope they don't sign. They'd probably change Pentagon's name to rhombus or something ridiculous.

[slik]

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[slik]

Pentagon loves to have fun!!

[Emperor Smeat]

My god I hope they don't sign. They'd probably change Pentagon's name to rhombus or something ridiculous.

Probably call him PJ or Hexagon.

[Simple Fan]

PJ Hexagon it is.

[DAMN iNATOR]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Big Cass is now going by the name of Big Cazz in the indies.

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[Bad News Gertner]

Lol that show looks amazing.

[Sixx]

Why not go with "Big Ass"?

[Bad News Gertner]

Just announced Kiera Hogan from Impact, Eddie Edwards and Sami Callahan

They just announced Scarlett Bordeaux. Probably gonna have sex with her.

[Simple Fan]

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[Tom Guycott]

It's just like a soap-opera. A lot of characters come and go. Some, even main-event/major ones, only have 2-3 years worth of story to tell. Some might have a decade plus.

Bray is a perfect example - 2-3 years worth of good story & could have released him after that. WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people. A smaller, constantly cycled out roster would keep things fresh all the time. And you can always bring some people back, if needed, for another run down the line.

Or, you know, actually give people you're not using time off or permission to work elsewhere.

Funny how someone could concievably have 8 months worth of stuff, then be off TV doing nothing and still have to follow the company around. I mean, when was the last time Zack Ryder even had a match? The only people who get time to freshen up/rest up is, ironically, someone who is either seriously injured or pregnant.

And I've made my feelings known about the "WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people" part... I believe they do it just so that person with buzz isn't attracting the buzz elsewhere. I first noticed it with CM Punk. He was getting all this attention in the indies for his matches everywhere with Colt. WWE hired him and sent him to developmental, and had no idea what to do with him and were ready to release him... after essentially wasting a bunch of time and effort because he made a name for himself outside of the machine. It's only gotten worse over time, especially with rise of NJPW worldwide, and the resurgance of wrestling in the UK.

You now have a glut of actual talent in NXT. You have an entire division nobody thinks about in 205 Live full of talented motherfuckers vying for the "This Flippy Shit Is All Vince Thinks You Are" purple belt. You have them trying to expand this "Women's rEvolution" to sign a ton of ladies from all around he world... just to have Sasha vs. Bayley become the female Cena vs. Orton. And even when it looks like they might try to build new stars, they either pull hotshot bullshit like with Roman or Jinder or they cut the nuts off of anyone gaining traction. Watch the B Team fizzle out in a few months because WWE will be done with them. Won't even be AoP they get fed to, because both of those teams will fuck off to oblivion when War <s>Machine</s> Raiders show up on the main roster (or Street Profits, if they blow the load of Hanson and Rowe meeting Harper and Rowan in short order).

[Tom Guycott]

PJ Hexagon it is.

Vs Alberto Of The River.

Gawd... what was that advertisement with that on there? I know ADR wasn't the only name butchered.

[Tom Guycott]

Apparently Big Cass is now going by the name of Big Cazz in the indies.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/BigCassWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigCassWWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealMickFoley</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/THETOMMYDREAMER?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@THETOMMYDREAMER</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialHacksaw?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialHacksaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realellsworth</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/facesoffear?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#facesoffear</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BTWwrestling</a> LIVE IN SPARTANBURG! Get your tix @ <a href="https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF">https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ytmh1FC380">pic.twitter.com/Ytmh1FC380</a></p>&mdash; Big Time Wrestling (@BTWwrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling/status/1025102277328232448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Also, I love how "The Master of the Empire Elbow" has to change his name, but they just plopped "Emma" on there like it ain't no thang.

[Cool King]

Apparently Big Cass is now going by the name of Big Cazz in the indies.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/BigCassWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigCassWWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealMickFoley</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/THETOMMYDREAMER?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@THETOMMYDREAMER</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialHacksaw?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialHacksaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realellsworth</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/facesoffear?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#facesoffear</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BTWwrestling</a> LIVE IN SPARTANBURG! Get your tix @ <a href="https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF">https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ytmh1FC380">pic.twitter.com/Ytmh1FC380</a></p>&mdash; Big Time Wrestling (@BTWwrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling/status/1025102277328232448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Why not "Big Kass"?

It still sounds the same as "Big Cass", whereas "Big Cazz" doesn't because of the Z's.

[Gerard]

Why not "Big Kass"?

It still sounds the same as "Big Cass", whereas "Big Cazz" doesn't because of the Z's.

"Big generic sack of shit" would be better, and more truthful overall.

[erickman]

I want to know is both the faces of fear in the bullet club or just ming.

[GD]

I fed a bot a years worth of Raw recaps and made it write out an episode of Raw (https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/944mhp/i_fed_a_bot_a_years_worth_of_raw_recaps_and_made/)

Raw begins with braun strowman and dolph ziggler. Angle tries to play a happy person but he's no one tonight. Kurt makes roman into angle and says that all the compliments. Paul throws sunil at summerslam and says that only reason was doing what smells him lesnar. Braun asks if anyone is in charge and says he refuses the universal title and is ready for brock whenever he wants to face ziggler and alexa lashley.
finn is in the ringside to face off bayley and says he is going to break his arm. Everyone attacks the crowd boos hard but he's faced every move and throws the match

backstage roman interview with elias and mcintyre. He says that it won a match since rumble but lays it out to be able to beat up hardy to strip lesnar of the first ever universal title.
ember moon and the revival lay into the ring. Seth sarcastically congratulates the revival. Corbin can't stop walking backstage. ruby says she's going to put stephanie and throws out seth. the revival takes on kevin owens who blocks out punch. Angle interfere match until summerslam.
triple h is interviewed backstage and says he is going to call stephanie to tell her that rousey doesn't have his hair and says she's banned.

mickie james is facing tyler breeze and won in throwaway match
the b team with another chance and tells them that they are two people with the same title and tells roode and titus graves that jojo is still there. roode and graves hits him with the shatter machine and won
raw superstars come out next week and tries to get him to cancel elias. He threatens nothing and leaves. elias strikes up a match and tries to get traded to summerslam. the crowd is interviewed backstage with apollo.

The ring has dash wilder against strowman but admits he doesn't have any title. paul heyman rushes out with another title and says that only rules are going to be enforced. Ziggler holds the title once again and flattens corbin. He threatens angle.

universal champion sasha says he's going to find sunil and tells interview that she deserves a long title after last week. Drew mcintyre challenges sasha and says she's about to be deleted.
* backstage elias and police escort angle

[#1-norm-fan]

Still more logical than an actual Raw.

[Innovator]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boy, stay in your lane... <a href="https://t.co/iyAs2hXpcx">pic.twitter.com/iyAs2hXpcx</a></p>&mdash; BLACKHEART (@ProjectCiampa) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/1025464130411618305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

Who the hell is that beside Ciampa?

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, wait..... Never mind..... it is Shayna..... thought it was a dude and was confused as to who it was and what title he was holding.....

[Bad News Gertner]

Might as well be

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

[Fignuts]

I really don't understand why Carmella is anywhere close to a title. She is literally the same character as Alexa Bliss, but worse in every way.

[Emperor Smeat]

Source is sketchy but rumor going around online teases WWE is likely ending the brand split next year in order to keep FOX happy. Supposedly WWE is worried FOX might back out of the tv deal early if ratings keep sliding downwards or have a lot lower patience level for Smackdown's struggles.

According to sources, there is some backstage speculation that WWE may once again be ending their brand split in 2019 in order to keep their new deal with FOX. WWE officials are reportedly concerned that FOX could back out of the deal due to ratings.

As previously reported here on eWrestlingNews.com, WWE and FOX agreed to a five-year deal back in May that is worth $1.025 billion for SmackDown! to air live on the FOX Network beginning in October 2019. WWE officials, including Vince McMahon, are reportedly worried that FOX could back out of a long-term deal due to the ratings for SmackDown! Live. If this were to happen, WWE would more than likely panic and end the brand split.

It should be noted that the exact details of the FOX-WWE contract are unknown and it’s said that FOX likely couldn’t back out of a deal worth that much so easily. The worst case scenario is that WWE SmackDown! Live would be moved to FS1 if it can’t compete live on Friday night’s.

Rumor might be related to the recent Observer Newsletter that mentioned FOX is already struggling a bit trying to fill in the gaps from UFC's programming without having WWE produce even more content than they already are. Same for FOX already preparing to spend a ton more money just on their cross-promotional plans for Smackdown.

[Emperor Smeat]

I really don't understand why Carmella is anywhere close to a title. She is literally the same character as Alexa Bliss, but worse in every way.

Its been speculated for a long while its likely due to two reasons.

The first being she fits Vince's ideal image for a female star. She's blonde, has a model type body, and no real wrestling experience prior to WWE.

The other being the rumor Vince actually wanted Ellsworth to be the first ever MitB winner as some sort of twisted gag. Since he couldn't get that done, Mella with the MitB case was the next best option. Its also why they had to redo the first MitB match because of the backlash they got when Ellsworth grabbed the case to help Mella win.

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

I agree with all of that

[GD]

Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

Shayna reminds a lot of Roman Reigns.

[Fignuts]

Fucking how?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

because dave is insane

[Savio]

SHE'S THE BIG BITCH!

[GD]

I really don't understand why Carmella is anywhere close to a title. She is literally the same character as Alexa Bliss, but worse in every way.

I feel the same way. Alexa has improved significantly since she won the Smackdown Women's title for the first title. She feels quite credible and worthy of her program with Ronda Rousey. On the other hand, Carmella gaining pinball victories over both Asuka and Charlotte seems a bit excessive.

[Bad News Gertner]

Some lovely, lovely individual made a 14 minute Clothesline From Hell comp on youtube.

It's as amazing as it sounds

WBtm6sGnCJk

[Jordan]

Billy Gun sold it best.

[GD]

Shayna reminds a lot of Roman Reigns.

Fucking how?

because dave is insane

https://i.imgur.com/CgoHpU0.jpg

[Jordan]

Shayna is having the best matches of any woman in WWE I think. I dunno. I think she's the best. Her promo is a little hit and miss for me, but she's getting better and better. Not at the level of some of the top NXT female promo's but she's awesome. Shayna vs Ronda will be big time when that goes down.

[Cool King]

Source is sketchy but rumor going around online teases WWE is likely ending the brand split next year in order to keep FOX happy.

https://media.giphy.com/media/AhCAZWNhksLfy/giphy.gif

[Cool King]

Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

I was actually expecting you to say Sonya Deville and not Ronda Rousey.

[Cool King]

I've also just discovered that Deville is in a relationship with Seth Rollin's ex, Zahra Schreiber.

[GD]

That's an interesting tidbit. Last evening, I learned that Mickie James is married to the current NWA World's Heavyweight Champion Nick Aldis.

[Cool King]

Some lovely, lovely individual made a 14 minute Clothesline From Hell comp on youtube.

It's as amazing as it sounds

WBtm6sGnCJk

Great video.

I also like how it's been alphabetised and ends with him scoring a pinfall.

[Cool King]

That's an interesting tidbit. Last evening, I learned that Mickie James was married to the current NWA World's Heavyweight Champion Nick Aldis.

I think they're still married and have a child together too.

[GD]

I think they're still married and have a child together too.

Oh yeah! They still are :roll:

[Cool King]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38391707_10155988315851443_8893409761295335424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8e37c6c114e62b403bfe291a27cd76e8&oe=5C086DFE

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Billy Gun sold it best.

I actually don't like his sell. He's leaping in the air before it even hits him. Much prefer the more realistic hard back bump.

[Bad News Gertner]

Christian probably sells it the best

[Jordan]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38391707_10155988315851443_8893409761295335424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8e37c6c114e62b403bfe291a27cd76e8&oe=5C086DFE

I half expect him to crush that infant. Oh no!

[Bad News Gertner]

I was watching the Clothesline From Hell on my phone this morning and my mom called

Who the fuck does she think she is!?!?!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Still more logical than an actual Raw.

You're not wrong, sadly.

[Vastardikai]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38391707_10155988315851443_8893409761295335424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8e37c6c114e62b403bfe291a27cd76e8&oe=5C086DFE

"I just want to tell you that I know a dentist."

[Lock Jaw]

Only The Demon Kane could care for The Demon Freddy Kreuger so tenderly

[GD]

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[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com/Vwm8dc4.gif

[Bad News Gertner]

Giving them their own ppv sounds like a great idea

[Mr. Nerfect]

<div style="width: 500px; height: 400px; ██████████ "><iframe src="https://streamable.com/s/o541u/lezojl" frameborder="0" width="100%" height="100%" allowfullscreen style="width: 100%; height: 100%; ██████████ absolute;"></iframe></div>

I'm going to watch the whole match, because I do love Ishii, but I hate spots where guys just lie around waiting for someone to do something to them. I know, I know -- Noid nitpicking again.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Giving them their own ppv sounds like a great idea

It's going to be really interesting to see how it turns out. Both critically and commercially.

[Sixx]

How the hell do you fake a two-leg stomp to the chest from the top turnbuckle?

Always baffled me.

[Triple A]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So many classic battles in this building, and <a href="https://twitter.com/SuperKingofBros?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SuperKingofBros</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/StricklandShane?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StricklandShane</a> are adding their names to the history books! What a battle! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EVOLVE108?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EVOLVE108</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClubWWN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ClubWWN</a> <br><br>➡️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWNLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWNLive</a>.com <a href="https://t.co/iADh6gMgIG">pic.twitter.com/iADh6gMgIG</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1025865731743698944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

How the hell do you fake a two-leg stomp to the chest from the top turnbuckle?

Always baffled me.

Its all about shifting pressure and weight away from the feet or else you'd crush a few ribs if you went full force into someone.

Balor does it by bending his knees and shift his body away to absorb most of the impact.

If the other person isn't prone but hoisting themselves on the rope, they help out by shifting their balance to spread out and lessen the impact.

[Sixx]

Its all about shifting pressure and weight away from the feet or else you'd crush a few ribs if you went full force into someone.

Balor does it by bending his knees and shift his body away to absorb most of the impact.

If the other person isn't prone but hoisting themselves on the rope, they help out by shifting their balance to spread out and lessen the impact.

Ah, I see.

Still, seems like a very risky maneuver, very likely to go wrong.

[Bad News Gertner]

The "Why It Ended" podcast on MLW is really good. Probably the most under-rated wrestling podcast out there

[Emperor Smeat]

https://78.media.tumblr.com/cdffbabee1bfc7621c38ee764b1f8f13/tumblr_pcuedqHMcy1s05wxzo1_400.gif

[GD]

I don't know a lot about Toni Storm but she's very attractive.

[Tom Guycott]

Oh, wait..... Never mind..... it is Shayna..... thought it was a dude and was confused as to who it was and what title he was holding.....

I couldn't tell, either. Especially with the big "U" all over her face. I initally thought it was that Kona dude, and was wondering what the fuck belt he had, as it didn't look like the UK title. I thought they made up another NXT midcard championship and completely dismissed the Women's division given this implication.

[Tom Guycott]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38391707_10155988315851443_8893409761295335424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8e37c6c114e62b403bfe291a27cd76e8&oe=5C086DFE

Kane is one eyepatch away from looking like Phil Ken Sebben.

"Shake hands, kiss baby! Shake hand, kiss baby! Kiss hand, shake baby!"

[Lock Jaw]

Thought it was that Kona dude too, actually.....

[Tom Guycott]

I was watching the Clothesline From Hell on my phone this morning and my mom called

Who the fuck does she think she is!?!?!

A woman who clearly isn't jobbing to Bradshaw.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just wrestled the most emotional match of my career <br><br>Words can’t describe the amount of respect I have for <a href="https://twitter.com/JerryLawler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JerryLawler</a> <br><br>It’s a true honor and pleasure to share the ring with him always .. <a href="https://t.co/cCHoUGLwD4">pic.twitter.com/cCHoUGLwD4</a></p>&mdash; James Ellsworth (@realellsworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/1026253009301504002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just wrestled the most emotional match of my career <br><br>Words can’t describe the amount of respect I have for <a href="https://twitter.com/JerryLawler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JerryLawler</a> <br><br>It’s a true honor and pleasure to share the ring with him always .. <a href="https://t.co/cCHoUGLwD4">pic.twitter.com/cCHoUGLwD4</a></p>&mdash; James Ellsworth (@realellsworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth/status/1026253009301504002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I'm not a fan of wrestlers going onto social media and being all touchy-feely about wrestling and such, and I'm not a big fan of Ellsworth, but damn. I can only imagine what it must be like getting to work with Jerry Lawler.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The "Why It Ended" podcast on MLW is really good. Probably the most under-rated wrestling podcast out there

I've been meaning to check it out. I really like the concept.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh god, there is a Vince Russo one. :lol:

Interested to hear Matt Morgan, Tully Blanchard and JTG.

[Bad News Gertner]

Listening to the Matt Morgan one right now. Pretty great so far. I 100% agree with Cornette on Morgan: he should have been a headlining star. I've been a huge fan of his since he debuted. I don't get what happened

The Justin Credible one is basically Justin fucked up on something, putting himself down and rambling. I had to shut it off.

[Innovator]

Listening to the Matt Morgan one right now. Pretty great so far. I 100% agree with Cornette on Morgan: he should have been a headlining star. I've been a huge fan of his since he debuted. I don't get what happened

The Justin Credible one is basically Justin fucked up on something, putting himself down and rambling. I had to shut it off. I

He worked too small sometimes I think, bumped for regular guys like a regular guy

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol Matt Morgan tells this awesome story how Nathan Jones quit. Awesome podcast. Start out with the Morgan one first Noid

[Bad News Gertner]

He worked too small sometimes I think, bumped for regular guys like a regular guy

Did this happen at TNA? My TNA viewing is very limited.

[Innovator]

I remember even back when I was all about workrate matches watching him bump for someone thinking “he shouldn’t be doing that”, it may have been off a clothesline feeding a comeback

[Bad News Gertner]

Very weird that some veteran didn't take him aside or an agent. nless this happened in TNA which no explanation needed.He was very agile, could cut a promo, had a cool finisher and looked like a monster . He should have been a slam dunk.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just for the record...all of those dudes from “That Other Club,” especially that <a href="https://twitter.com/MartyScurll?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MartyScurll</a> fella are REALLY bad dudes. So much “heat” that we were barely able to be in the same stadium.</p>&mdash; The Great Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1025946217879162881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

I remember even back when I was all about workrate matches watching him bump for someone thinking “he shouldn’t be doing that”, it may have been off a clothesline feeding a comeback

lol I think he had Tough Enough burned into his brain, because they make everyone do everything. Everyone has to learn how to bump and feed, everyone knows how to do top rope moves, etc even if they're never gonna need to do that stuff in an actual match.

Morgan was so early in his career at the time he was on SmackDown that I think his instincts from training took over.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Listened to Sid on Sean Mooney's podcast. Very strange interview but Sid kind of reminds me of Brock Lesnar.

[Innovator]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/FePmUHYTRAg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Evil Vito]

I have memories of thinking A-Train was the worst guy on the roster. I dreaded seeing him each and every time.

I'm guessing it was just me being a workrate smark not thinking that big dudes who can brawl could possibly be good wrestlers.

[Bad News Gertner]

I remember losing my shit the first time I saw the Hellevator . Such a cool looking move.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I have memories of thinking A-Train was the worst guy on the roster. I dreaded seeing him each and every time.

I'm guessing it was just me being a workrate smark not thinking that big dudes who can brawl could possibly be good wrestlers.

Honestly no matter how good A-Train was I just couldn't like him.

[Bad News Gertner]

I thought A-Train was awesome. He had some cool moves.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think it was his look. I just hated it so much. I know he was a big man, but his aesthetic was such a turn off. Like it just said "bottom-of-the-card muscle" to me. He also had 0 charisma.

[Lock Jaw]

"A-train..... I like that..... I'm A-train now!"

[Innovator]

https://i.imgur.com/SxJXCHm.png

[Cool King]

Joe sure does love sweating.

[Cool King]

Seriously though, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen a wrestler that sweats as much and so easily as Samoa Joe.

Within the first minute of his matches, he becomes just a big ball of sweat.

It's crazy.

[Innovator]

Brock and Shane are both up there in terms of sweating

[Cool King]

They are sweaty beasts too but I don't think they sweat as quickly as Joe does.

[Evil Vito]

Justin Roberts is jacked. What the fuck.

https://i.redd.it/th2b6gk674e11.jpg

[Sixx]

Justin Roberts is jacked. What the fuck.

https://i.redd.it/th2b6gk674e11.jpg

He looks like Joe from Family Guy.

[Big Vic]

Brock and Shane are both up there in terms of sweating

Lashley too

[Sixx]

Lashley too

SO THAT'S WHAT THE HEADBAND IS FOR!!!!!!

[Sixx]

Still, it makes him look like a Chupa Chups

https://images.vat19.com/giant-chupa-chup/giant-chupa-chups-lollipop-features.jpg

[Bad News Gertner]

Heard this on the Between the Sheets podcast: Honky Tonk Man was supposed to get the Brutus Beefcake gimmick in 84, but he contracted Hepatitis

[Cool King]

Lashley too

Damn, yeah, I forgot about Lashley.

[screech]

I'm just gonna put this out there:

I liked Nathan Jones and was bummed when he quit.

[Vastardikai]

Seriously though, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen a wrestler that sweats as much and so easily as Samoa Joe.

Within the first minute of his matches, he becomes just a big ball of sweat.

It's crazy.

He was completely dry after his match with Kobashi.

[Emperor Smeat]

Found this during a recent newLegacy stream and figured it might be an interesting read for some here.

Someone recently managed to get old payroll and contract stuff from WCW during the Monday Night Wars covering everyone who ever worked there during that time. Can pretty much see where WCW was bleeding money and for some odd reason had a bunch of wrestlers owe them $1 for merch.

https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts

[Anybody Thrilla]

Impact is a better show than Raw currently.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Impact is a better show than Raw currently.

They have a history of falling on their faces. Hope that they let Cyrus the Virus alone/do his thing and don't change things up for awhile.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Justin Roberts is jacked. What the fuck.

https://i.redd.it/th2b6gk674e11.jpg

I guess no one drug tests the announcers. :lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

Brock and Shane are both up there in terms of sweating

Big Show as well. Bunch of times he's already sweating after just walking down the ramp.

[Anybody Thrilla]

They have a history of falling on their faces. Hope that they let Cyrus the Virus alone/do his thing and don't change things up for awhile.

I'm just saying 'currently'.

[Gerard]

Big Show as well. Bunch of times he's already sweating after just walking down the ramp.

Used to be, not these days though with the drastic weight loss.

[GD]

Justin Roberts is jacked. What the fuck.

https://i.redd.it/th2b6gk674e11.jpg

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[Gerard]

Impact is a better show than Raw currently.


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As is this ^

[Tom Guycott]

Found this during a recent newLegacy stream and figured it might be an interesting read for some here.

Someone recently managed to get old payroll and contract stuff from WCW during the Monday Night Wars covering everyone who ever worked there during that time. Can pretty much see where WCW was bleeding money and for some odd reason had a bunch of wrestlers owe them $1 for merch.

https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts

... so did Chono just work for free?

[Rammsteinmad]

I remember doing a "seminar" with Jim Neidhart probably around ten/twelve years ago, and he broke into a massive ball of sweat just climbing through the ropes.

He was completely fucked on drinks/drugs though.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

Soooo many bulging veins...... gross.......

[Innovator]

Burning Hammer

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Cool King]

Found this during a recent newLegacy stream and figured it might be an interesting read for some here.

Someone recently managed to get old payroll and contract stuff from WCW during the Monday Night Wars covering everyone who ever worked there during that time. Can pretty much see where WCW was bleeding money and for some odd reason had a bunch of wrestlers owe them $1 for merch.

https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts

Am I reading this right?

Brian Knobbs and Jerry Sags made $1 each in 1998?

If so, then that is hilarious.

[Cool King]

Oh, and X-Pac too in 2000.

[slik]

THE BIG DOG gets a preview of SummerSlam

https://i.imgur.com/ZyyInTP.jpg

[Cool King]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/dd/d2/29ddd2e24b3627b8bc50ef76ecf6cf0f.jpg

[Cool King]

#wrestlersholdingsmallanimals

[Emperor Smeat]

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_l/public/photo/image/2010/10/15904080.jpg

[Cool King]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/grumpy-cat-goldust.jpeg?w=650&quality=95&h=650

[Big Vic]

Why the hell was Jumpin Jeff Farmer still on the WCW payroll in 2000?

[Cool King]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4TEc5saLP9k/maxresdefault.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I purchased my daughter a <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> Raw <a href="https://twitter.com/Mattel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Mattel</a> ring for all of her action figures... but, apparently she thinks it’s actually for her to wrestle in. <br>��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEEliteSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEEliteSquad</a> <a href="https://t.co/Dkv7CDMn1f">pic.twitter.com/Dkv7CDMn1f</a></p>&mdash; Brian Myers (@TheCurtHawkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCurtHawkins/status/1026859759947980801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Could probably beat her dad in a one-on-one match

[Bad News Gertner]

Why the hell was Jumpin Jeff Farmer still on the WCW payroll in 2000?

He wrestled in January of 2000 in WCW

[Lock Jaw]

Even if they weren't gonna use him, wise to keep him on the payroll so he couldn't go anywhere else. WCW could have been done a lot sooner.

[Bad News Gertner]

I'm guessing he was under contract but got sent to New Japan to work

[Gerard]

https://i.imgur.com/DvSwHUq.jpg


That would be an interesting mania match, one guy that can do 2 moves because he's a lazy fat prick that's badly due a dentist visit, and the other guy that is incredibly broken down due to injuries and moves around like a wooden plank in the ring. :nono:

[Lock Jaw]

I mean, "back in the day" they were presented as "peers"

[Savio]

He wrestled in January of 2000 in WCW
But why?
Even if they weren't gonna use him, wise to keep him on the payroll so he couldn't go anywhere else. WCW could have been done a lot sooner.

Ohh true

[Bad News Gertner]

But why?


Ohh true

He was wrestling primarily in New Japan. Looks like he teamed with Chono against the Varsity Club in Jan.2000 but that's it.

I'm guessing he was under contract but they let him wrestle in New Japan since they had a working relationship with them

[#1-norm-fan]

That wasn't "Jumpin'" Jeff Farmer. It was another Jeff Farmer.

[Gerard]

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Yeowch, almost makes Austins piledriver look tame. :eek:

Apparently he got paid 10 million after a lawsuit of which Jannetty had to pay 500k.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

https://i.imgur.com/DvSwHUq.jpg


That would be an interesting mania match, one guy that can do 2 moves because he's a lazy fat prick that's badly due a dentist visit, and the other guy that is incredibly broken down due to injuries and moves around like a wooden plank in the ring. :nono:

Brock Lesnar is not fat lol

[Shadrick]

Brock Lesnar is not fat lol

lol not at all. brick fuckin house.

[Gerard]

Brock Lesnar is not fat lol

Aye, just all relaxed muscle. :wave:

[slik]

I would have zero interest in a Kurt Angle/Brock Lesnar match in 2019.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Aye, just all relaxed muscle. :wave:

Sound like a typical keyboard warrior. Feel sorry for your wife/girlfriend. You probably won't let her eat cake.

[Cool King]

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[Cool King]

I remember really enjoying that Kurt Angle.

He was great.

[Gerard]

Sound like a typical keyboard warrior. Feel sorry for your wife/girlfriend. You probably won't let her eat cake.



Well it might SOUND like that if i actually recorded audio and linked it, but in reality it read like that. Settle down son, you can go and pump your pud to pics of Brock in his pre-flab days using google image search i would imagine. :heart:

[Lock Jaw]

Settle your tea kettle

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well it might SOUND like that if i actually recorded audio and linked it, but in reality it read like that. Settle down son, you can go and pump your pud to pics of Brock in his pre-flab days using google image search i would imagine. :heart:

Yeah you sure showed me.

[Gerard]

Yeah you sure showed me.

Indeed.

https://i.imgur.com/HVEz49Z.gif

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol. I remember you from the old days. You had an incredibly thin skin then as well :-)

[Gerard]

lol. I remember you from the old days. You had an incredibly thin skin then as well :-)

Doubtful :love:

[GD]

Dear Gerard, do yourself a favor and google the lazy fat prick's training videos. K, bye.

[Curtis]

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Even though that's probably fake and he put her in the ring to make the photo, it's still adorable.
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[Cool King]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never stay in your “comfort zone” too long. New program thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/EyeOfJackieChan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EyeOfJackieChan</a> team more 🥊 more 🧘█♂️ little bit of 🥋and of course🏋️█♀️! Down to 236lb from 254 and really weirding out the poor SOB on the treadmill behind me! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeverGiveUp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NeverGiveUp</a> <a href="https://t.co/CwkCBn4h9D">pic.twitter.com/CwkCBn4h9D</a></p>&mdash; John Cena (@JohnCena) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/1026657045322260480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Cool King]

It's a bit weird seeing Cena with an even amount of hair on his head.

[Curtis]

Cena looks better with longer hair.

[slik]

Kurt vs Brock would be such a terrible idea I can see them absolutely doing it tbh

"The fans will love it"

[Curtis]

Kurt vs Brock would be such a terrible idea I can see them absolutely doing it tbh

"The fans will love it"

Come on it'll be as great as the Lesnar/Goldberg match!

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Post Wrestling's John Pollock, Ronda's main event on RAW managed to cause a spike in ratings but because it was too short and the bump itself was small, it didn't really affect RAW in the end.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was informed by someone with access to the quarter-hour breakdowns for Raw that the show as a whole did a 2.2 and the overrun segment feat. Ronda Rousey vs. Alicia Fox did a 2.5.<br><br>Full viewership breakdown:<a href="https://t.co/RtqbyeA1PZ">https://t.co/RtqbyeA1PZ</a></p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1026972873125052417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Gerard]

Dear Gerard, do yourself a favor and google the lazy fat prick's training videos. K, bye.



Dear bellend, please watch:

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Vs

https://i.imgur.com/fxocWgA.jpg



And before you play the "but he's older now" card that doesn't mean much at all. Back when he left wwe around 2004 one of the reasons he cited was not being able to do his workouts as much as he wanted to, and it showed as over the course of his first run he also went from very "ripped" at the start to noticeably less at the end. And just because you're older doesn't automatically mean you can't maintain a shape. He barely even appears on tv anymore so what's his reason for getting aesthetically out of shape?

Even looking at his shoulders they're far less defined and far more rounded, he has a gut that hangs over his shorts, yet apparently that's not "fat".

As for the lazy part, have you watched any of his fucking matches since he returned? 99% of them consist of 2 suplex variations and an f5 and thats it, if that's not lazy i don't know what is considering he's capable of much more and has just been phoning it in since his return.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Jesus fucking Christ, you have high standards. Dude looks like a grizzly bear mated with a fire hydrant. He's not shredded like a body builder but he looks like he could tear a person's head clean off. Typical keyboard warrior.

[Gerard]

Jesus fucking Christ, you have high standards. Dude looks like a grizzly bear mated with a fire hydrant. He's not shredded like a body builder but he looks like he could tear a person's head clean off. Typical keyboard warrior.

Is that your newly found phrase for the day "keyboard warrior"? Might want to get with the times as the rest of the net overused it over a decade ago but it's seemingly your new discovery.

It's not even a matter of having high standards, if he was putting on good matches i doubt anyone would care, but has he? Even the crowd finally got pissed off with this "suplex city" shit as its painfully obvious he can't be bothered to do anything else yet Vince as deluded as he is for some reason is still throwing money at him.

Personally i hope this "run" is his last as his matches are good as a cure for insomnia and not much else.

[Innovator]

To quote Joe Rogan, "I'm not worried that Brock Lesnar can fuck me, I'm worried that he'll use me as a condom to fuck something else."

[Gerard]

To quote Joe Rogan, "I'm not worried that Brock Lesnar can fuck me, I'm worried that he'll use me as a condom to fuck something else."

While paying a visit to the zoo :lol:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

"Brock Lesnar is putting on boring matches, therefore he's fat" - Keyboard Warrior

[Gerard]

"Brock Lesnar is putting on boring matches, therefore he's fat" - Keyboard Warrior

More like:

"Brock got fat and coincidentally is putting on shit 2-3 move matches. - Realist, and anyone with a functioning set of eyes."


:love:

[GD]

Jesus fucking Christ, you have high standards. Dude looks like a grizzly bear mated with a fire hydrant. He's not shredded like a body builder but he looks like he could tear a person's head clean off. Typical keyboard warrior.

I concur.

[GD]

More like:

"Brock got fat and coincidentally is putting on shit 2-3 move matches. - Realist, and anyone with a functioning set of eyes."


:love:

Your passive-aggressiveness is making me cry tears of blood.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'd argue Lesnar's flabby look is a lot more related to him being off the roids or on a smaller cycle than in the past. Combine that with him being less motivated and active as a wrestler and his flabbiness becomes more apparent. Same reasons why his stamina in matches has gotten worse in recent times.

Triple H had a similar flabby look every time he went off the roids to have kids.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol "flabby" for fuck sake.

[Emperor Smeat]

Couldn't think of another word for his look for Gerard's issues with Lesnar.

[Cool King]

If Lesnar looking the way he does at the moment makes him fat, then Samoa Joe must be morbidly obese.

[LibSuperstar]

*Cough laugh* Flabby though?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He's a little softer than usual, but I'd take his "soft" over my "chiseled" any day of the week. Fitness is honestly a spectrum, and while he's obviously not in peak condition right now, calling him fat is ridiculous.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Your passive-aggressiveness is making me cry tears of blood.

lol he's been neg-repping me the whole time because I hurt his feelings.

[GD]

lol he's been neg-repping me the whole time because I hurt his feelings.

Ditto.

[Gerard]

lol he's been neg-repping me the whole time because I hurt his feelings.

Keep on trying to spin it that way, child. :wave: Cute that you're so vain you actually check "rep", funny that it matters so much to some bell-ends.

Ditto.


You're welcome :love:

[Gerard]

If Lesnar looking the way he does at the moment makes him fat, then Samoa Joe must be morbidly obese.

Joe has ALWAYS been that way though. I don't recall him ever really looking any different, at least not in the last 10+ years. Plus Joe can put on good matches, when was the last good lesnar match? You just have to look at that abortion of a mania match with Reigns and it tells you all you need to know. Lesnar has went from ripped and putting on good matches, to "fat" and phoning matches in. Coincidence? Doubt it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Listening to the Matt Morgan one right now. Pretty great so far. I 100% agree with Cornette on Morgan: he should have been a headlining star. I've been a huge fan of his since he debuted. I don't get what happened

The Justin Credible one is basically Justin fucked up on something, putting himself down and rambling. I had to shut it off.

I love hearing Cornette's response to an emailer criticizing Morgan and not getting what Cornette saw in him because he looked like a boring goof on television all the time. Corny was like "Of course he did! WWE and TNA fucked it up so bad!"

I mean, Cornette was under no obligation to love the guy. He could have seen the criticisms everyone else did, or disapproved of him because he came from Tough Enough. But he made a difference to the bottom line and won over Jim Cornette.

It really is bizarre. Like, even if you fell on the side that he isn't very good -- the guy should have gotten way more chances just based on his size and that he came from Tough Enough, given that they wanted to push the show so much. Even if he was awful (which I don't think anyone would objectively say he was), why wouldn't he get more shots? Why wouldn't they bring him back for a Royal Rumble spot to stand above everyone else and then get tossed out by the Braun Strowman of the time or whatever? He looked cool as shit putting Big Show through the table with the F5.

Vince has a history of needing to change guys when they come up. Cornette thought Cena was going to be a Ric Flair-style heel, so he's got to be the blue-chip babyface. Orton was going to be a babyface; let's push him as a cocky heel. Rico was going to be the all-American babyface, well, say hello to your gay stylist. Doug Basham, The Damaja, Rob Conway and Nick Dinsmore -- four staples of your mid-card? Nah, say hello to twin gimps, a "French sympathizer" and your mentally challenged person. Very few guys actually came up from OVW as is. I think the only ones were MNM, thinking about it. I wonder if the need to change Morgan was something too overpowering for Vince, and Morgan was only going to work within a certain context?

The stuttering thing was just fucking stupid though. Why would you purposely give anyone a gimmick designed to give them such a laughable weakness? It'd be like giving someone a narcoleptic gimmick. It kind of symbolizes all the things I legitimately hate about the WWF/E, lol. They will actively go out of their way to make things bad sometimes. Why?

I'll start on that podcast though. Thanks for the recommendation. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I have memories of thinking A-Train was the worst guy on the roster. I dreaded seeing him each and every time.

I'm guessing it was just me being a workrate smark not thinking that big dudes who can brawl could possibly be good wrestlers.

I think you had it right on A-Train. I desperately wanted Giant Bernard to come back and be good, but Tensai fucking sucked, just like Albert and Prince Albert fucking sucked. The common denominator is Matt Bloom.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If Angle could move, I'd be into Brock vs. Angle. I could still get into the "story." Triple H and Stephanie force Angle to march to his death. It'd be a good "last match" for Angle. In theory. If Angle can't move his neck or his legs, then...yeah.

[Gerard]

If Angle could move, I'd be into Brock vs. Angle. I could still get into the "story." Triple H and Stephanie force Angle to march to his death. It'd be a good "last match" for Angle. In theory. If Angle can't move his neck or his legs, then...yeah.

Was sad seeing him in the ring again knowing what he was like, he just looked totally out of place and very inflexible. :nono:

[GD]

Keep on trying to spin it that way, child. :wave: Cute that you're so vain you actually check "rep", funny that it matters so much to some bell-ends.

Ditto.


You're welcome :love:

This is so cute.

[Bad News Gertner]

I love hearing Cornette's response to an emailer criticizing Morgan and not getting what Cornette saw in him because he looked like a boring goof on television all the time. Corny was like "Of course he did! WWE and TNA fucked it up so bad!"

I mean, Cornette was under no obligation to love the guy. He could have seen the criticisms everyone else did, or disapproved of him because he came from Tough Enough. But he made a difference to the bottom line and won over Jim Cornette.

It really is bizarre. Like, even if you fell on the side that he isn't very good -- the guy should have gotten way more chances just based on his size and that he came from Tough Enough, given that they wanted to push the show so much. Even if he was awful (which I don't think anyone would objectively say he was), why wouldn't he get more shots? Why wouldn't they bring him back for a Royal Rumble spot to stand above everyone else and then get tossed out by the Braun Strowman of the time or whatever? He looked cool as shit putting Big Show through the table with the F5.

Vince has a history of needing to change guys when they come up. Cornette thought Cena was going to be a Ric Flair-style heel, so he's got to be the blue-chip babyface. Orton was going to be a babyface; let's push him as a cocky heel. Rico was going to be the all-American babyface, well, say hello to your gay stylist. Doug Basham, The Damaja, Rob Conway and Nick Dinsmore -- four staples of your mid-card? Nah, say hello to twin gimps, a "French sympathizer" and your mentally challenged person. Very few guys actually came up from OVW as is. I think the only ones were MNM, thinking about it. I wonder if the need to change Morgan was something too overpowering for Vince, and Morgan was only going to work within a certain context?

The stuttering thing was just fucking stupid though. Why would you purposely give anyone a gimmick designed to give them such a laughable weakness? It'd be like giving someone a narcoleptic gimmick. It kind of symbolizes all the things I legitimately hate about the WWF/E, lol. They will actively go out of their way to make things bad sometimes. Why?

I'll start on that podcast though. Thanks for the recommendation. :y:

Your answer as to why he didn't come back for Rumble appearence and the origins of the stuttering gimmick is in the podcast. The Morgan one is my favourite so far.

[Gerard]

This is so cute.

Indeed it is :love::love:

[GD]

Keep on trying to spin it that way, child. :wave: Cute that you're so vain you actually check "rep", funny that it matters so much to some bell-ends.


I love how you keep "neg repping" us while ridiculing The Dastardly One for checking or caring for his "rep points". Definitely not butthurt or a keyboard warrior.

[owenbrown]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never stay in your “comfort zone” too long. New program thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/EyeOfJackieChan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EyeOfJackieChan</a> team more 🥊 more 🧘█♂️ little bit of 🥋and of course🏋️█♀️! Down to 236lb from 254 and really weirding out the poor SOB on the treadmill behind me! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeverGiveUp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NeverGiveUp</a> <a href="https://t.co/CwkCBn4h9D">pic.twitter.com/CwkCBn4h9D</a></p>&mdash; John Cena (@JohnCena) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/1026657045322260480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Cena's hair kinda makes him look like JBL

[Ultra Mantis]

Isn't that a picture of Dave Meltzer?

[Bad News Gertner]

Meltzer is a bodybuilder so the resemblance is uncanny

[Emperor Smeat]

Lesnar is currently rumored to be interesting in working for both WWE and UFC once his current WWE contract expires.

Joe Peisich said on Barn Burner Radio’s Fired Up podcast that Lesnar had a very interesting meeting with Mr. McMahon last week before Raw.

“I’ll break some news. Brock Lesnar last week had a meeting with Vince and the higher ups with WWE and he has told them that he wants to work with both.”

“He wants to work with WWE and UFC. I don’t know how that’s going to happen, but if Brock does not lose the title at SummerSlam you could see him working for both WWE and UFC. Like I said, I don’t know how that works but he wants to work for both.”