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Evil Vito
11-03-2021, 04:05 PM
Negro Casas is wrestling for GCW on December 17th.

Wrestling in 2021 is absolutely bonkers.

Bad News Gertner
11-03-2021, 09:15 PM
The best part of this Twittet account is all the cool shit Regal did on these shows.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In an era before tapping out, <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealKingRegal</a> covering Butch Long’s mouth so he couldn’t quit in the Regal Stretch was such a villainous tactic. <a href="https://t.co/uUm6Un8W5z">pic.twitter.com/uUm6Un8W5z</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1455943882542403594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-04-2021, 06:50 AM
Regal is absolutely phenomenal.

Mr. Nerfect
11-04-2021, 07:13 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damn kids with their flips and high spots! Business will be dead in a year. <a href="https://t.co/fEf30y21ZA">https://t.co/fEf30y21ZA</a></p>&mdash; Lance Storm (@LanceStorm) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1454905113827418114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t think people have a problem with flips, etc. It’s the context of them and just how cooperate and “convenient” they look.

drave
11-04-2021, 08:07 AM
He's in my top 5 favorites.


His book is also phenomenal. Not sure if he has more than one now or not. Bought Ric Flair's book at the same time before the bookstores turned into dust.

slik
11-04-2021, 02:37 PM
Don't like to see anyone lose a job - more releases rumored today for WWE - my guess could be *some* of the following:

Keith Lee
Mia Yim
Karrion Kross
Scarlett
Kevin Owens
Cesaro
Drake Maverick
OTIS
Akira Tozawa
Dana Brooke
Elias
Tamina
Nia
Jaxon Ryker
Ricochet

Mr. Nerfect
11-04-2021, 03:44 PM
Don't like to see anyone lose a job - more releases rumored today for WWE - my guess could be *some* of the following:

Keith Lee
Mia Yim
Karrion Kross
Scarlett
Kevin Owens
Cesaro
Drake Maverick
OTIS
Akira Tozawa
Dana Brooke
Elias
Tamina
Nia
Jaxon Ryker
Ricochet

It sucks that people can’t hold a talent-based job forever, it’s the nature of the beast and can be good for the company and talent.

That’s a pretty solid list you’ve got there. Oddly enough, of anyone that I think might be safe from it, it could be the guys like Akira Tozawa and Drake Maverick that add to that 24/7 mix. I don’t know why, but I can see Ricochet being safe too.

Keith Lee is the big screamer to me. They’ve tried a couple of times (in their mind), and I don’t think they got anything out of him. They didn’t even use him two weeks consecutively did they?

Elias not being drafted was a pretty big sign. And just because the company was high on you once doesn’t mean they’re going to stay that way. Can see him and Ryker being released, especially because they don’t seem to have any plans for them.

I’ve had a feeling that Kushida and MSK from NXT could be on the chopping block for a while. Unless they just use Kushida for Main Event/205 Live/the 24/7 division.

Because he apparently asked for another release, I can see them letting Gran Metalik go. Lince Dorado may or may not find himself attached to that. He seems “happier” to be there.

I have no clue how Dana Brooke has survived this long, to be honest.

I think the biggest “shocker” will be someone like Jeff Hardy or Sheamus. The first because he’s planning to leave anyway or they just don’t care if he does anymore. Sheamus just because of health issues and him maybe taking another role in the company.

Sad to say, but I don’t Asuka is safe either. Nor Shelton Benjamin. Not this time.

Bad News Gertner
11-04-2021, 04:09 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Silver King was The Man That Gravity Remembered. <a href="https://t.co/6rEikFjHwk">pic.twitter.com/6rEikFjHwk</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1456308743604408328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-04-2021, 04:15 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Silver King was The Man That Gravity Remembered. <a href="https://t.co/6rEikFjHwk">pic.twitter.com/6rEikFjHwk</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1456308743604408328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thank you for tweeting these. I could watch them all day.

GD
11-04-2021, 04:21 PM
Don't like to see anyone lose a job - more releases rumored today for WWE - my guess could be *some* of the following:

Keith Lee
Mia Yim
Karrion Kross
Scarlett
Kevin Owens
Cesaro
Drake Maverick
OTIS
Akira Tozawa
Dana Brooke
Elias
Tamina
Nia
Jaxon Ryker
Ricochet

Why Slik? Why? This post :smgdh:

Bad News Gertner
11-05-2021, 10:27 AM
These backstage interviews with Gene on the WCW B and C shows can be hilarious

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a very fun and grumpy Mean Gene interview with Sonny Onno &amp; The Cat.<br><br>Gene is upset that The Cat inferred that he can’t dance because he has “bird legs” and is elderly.<br><br>“Why don’t they call it the Great Japanese Bash?”<br>“In Baltimore? Are you ribbin’ me?” <a href="https://t.co/POlyvrsb58">pic.twitter.com/POlyvrsb58</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1456602837048340480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-05-2021, 10:31 AM
Thank you for tweeting these. I could watch them all day.

Lol what's sad is I've watched all of those matches in the clips. Didn't have cable till 2001 unless someone taped Raw/Thunder/Nitro I was watching Metal/Shotgun/WCW Saturday Night/Worldwide

DAMN iNATOR
11-05-2021, 09:37 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We rarely think about the fundamental nature of time…<br>But when it’s time, you will damn sure know. 🕰 <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/remodel?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#remodel</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rolemodel?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rolemodel</a> <a href="https://t.co/uKXLeVftCb">pic.twitter.com/uKXLeVftCb</a></p>&mdash; Bayley (@itsBayleyWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsBayleyWWE/status/1456037980552847360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Perhaps a hint of an earlier than expected return? Note the hands appear to be just short of 🕑...maybe she'll be a surprise entrant in the women's Rumble? 🤷

Damian Rey 2.0
11-06-2021, 02:56 AM
These backstage interviews with Gene on the WCW B and C shows can be hilarious

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a very fun and grumpy Mean Gene interview with Sonny Onno &amp; The Cat.<br><br>Gene is upset that The Cat inferred that he can’t dance because he has “bird legs” and is elderly.<br><br>“Why don’t they call it the Great Japanese Bash?”<br>“In Baltimore? Are you ribbin’ me?” <a href="https://t.co/POlyvrsb58">pic.twitter.com/POlyvrsb58</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1456602837048340480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I could watch Mean Gene not take any shit all day. He was so good.

Lock Jaw
11-06-2021, 02:33 PM
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Bad News Gertner
11-06-2021, 03:56 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Barry Darsow: master of physical comedy. <a href="https://t.co/uESyrAzCAI">pic.twitter.com/uESyrAzCAI</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1456668113005649925?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-06-2021, 03:58 PM
Former WWF wrestler Angelo Mosca passed away at age 84 due to Alzeimers

slik
11-06-2021, 04:06 PM
WWE randomly announcing the Survivor Series card on twitter 2 weeks before the ppv, so low effort


https://i.postimg.cc/133NZZJB/FDi-Necc-WUAAth-Co.jpg

vs

https://i.postimg.cc/52KQ4krV/FDi-RKi-NX0-AYG-e.jpg

Mr. Nerfect
11-06-2021, 04:19 PM
Replace Dominik with Austin Theory and Happy Corbin with Cesaro.

slik
11-06-2021, 04:32 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MT7FJRph/FDi-Uyz-JXEAEywv-X.jpg

vs

https://i.postimg.cc/bNc12MLH/FDi-Yi61-WEAIj-Ns4.jpg

slik
11-06-2021, 04:33 PM
The whole 'brand loyalty' is so silly a month after the draft

Just do RAW vs RAW and SD vs SD with a team of heels and faces based off people who are actually feuding on TV

Bad News Gertner
11-06-2021, 04:33 PM
Wow, WWE stepping their game up! So much excitement to build around these intriguing match ups

Your turn AEW. If you dare!

slik
11-06-2021, 04:49 PM
Rey Mysterio putting aside the time Seth Rollins took his eye out of his head in the name of brand supremacy

XL
11-06-2021, 05:07 PM
FFS.

“Team Raw” made up entirely of guys that have been on the brand 2 weeks, and that SD Women’s team is lacklustre. Fucking Aliyah, who hasn’t even been on TV yet? Where’s Toni Storm? Or is she supposed to be on Raw now?

Mr. Nerfect
11-06-2021, 05:27 PM
I have no clue why they don’t just do a face and a heel team from each show to go against the corresponding side. Gets more talent out there in a somewhat prominent role, which is what they are trying to do with these new rosters. Then you can do the teams facing each other on their home show and have feuds coming out of it.

erickman
11-06-2021, 09:54 PM
so vinces yelling at cole all these years made him deaf

Mr. Nerfect
11-07-2021, 07:53 AM
I saw a bit about that but didn’t read the article. Is it going to jeopardise his career?

slik
11-07-2021, 12:48 PM
Hurricane Helms earnin dat paycheck

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Brain is a serious medical condition that is affecting people by the thousands. Please pray for them. <a href="https://t.co/mknVDjC2gJ">pic.twitter.com/mknVDjC2gJ</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1457219054759030784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Stop focusing on behind the scenes bullshit&quot; <a href="https://t.co/YrHGDRIZnC">pic.twitter.com/YrHGDRIZnC</a></p>&mdash; Willy Jakes (@NiceToWrestlers) <a href="https://twitter.com/NiceToWrestlers/status/1457223134172561412?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love watching football, but I don't pay attention to the draft, offseason, trades, or players on the field.</p>&mdash; The Phantom Stoll Booth (@YoshkeZoidberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/YoshkeZoidberg/status/1457219765043400704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Love the idea of a wrestler based on a comic book superhero trying to pretend that people who are into comics/superhero movies aren't also insanely invested in every minor behind the scenes story, power struggle and slight of writers/artists/actors/directors.</p>&mdash; A. Bartlett Giamatti (@Bart_Giamatti) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bart_Giamatti/status/1457224138284802052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is Helms in a nutshell right now. <a href="https://t.co/T8LCTG3pk0">pic.twitter.com/T8LCTG3pk0</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Jolly'G Gilkison (@AndyDandyMandy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyDandyMandy/status/1457231510293995520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 12:59 PM
To be fair, his shoot was one of the worst I've ever seen. He literally said nothing

slik
11-07-2021, 01:05 PM
Does anyone else remember this/did this?

Before the internet, listed in the newspaper there was a free hotline you could call and then enter a 5 digit code to hear news/rumors about about a different subject. I used to call every Tuesday to hear wrestling rumors/scoops. I remember the guy had a deep voice but I can't remember his name.

slik
11-07-2021, 01:09 PM
googling to see if anyone else remembers this and found a reddit post from 8 years ago

https://i.postimg.cc/1zyN9gSk/Screenshot-2021-11-07-12-07-26-PM.png

Mr. Nerfect
11-07-2021, 01:25 PM
Hurricane Helms earnin dat paycheck

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Brain is a serious medical condition that is affecting people by the thousands. Please pray for them. <a href="https://t.co/mknVDjC2gJ">pic.twitter.com/mknVDjC2gJ</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1457219054759030784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Stop focusing on behind the scenes bullshit&quot; <a href="https://t.co/YrHGDRIZnC">pic.twitter.com/YrHGDRIZnC</a></p>&mdash; Willy Jakes (@NiceToWrestlers) <a href="https://twitter.com/NiceToWrestlers/status/1457223134172561412?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love watching football, but I don't pay attention to the draft, offseason, trades, or players on the field.</p>&mdash; The Phantom Stoll Booth (@YoshkeZoidberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/YoshkeZoidberg/status/1457219765043400704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Love the idea of a wrestler based on a comic book superhero trying to pretend that people who are into comics/superhero movies aren't also insanely invested in every minor behind the scenes story, power struggle and slight of writers/artists/actors/directors.</p>&mdash; A. Bartlett Giamatti (@Bart_Giamatti) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bart_Giamatti/status/1457224138284802052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is Helms in a nutshell right now. <a href="https://t.co/T8LCTG3pk0">pic.twitter.com/T8LCTG3pk0</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Jolly'G Gilkison (@AndyDandyMandy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyDandyMandy/status/1457231510293995520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ugh, every single person trying to catch Helms there is a fucking idiot. Helms isn’t really wrong about the exploitative nature of a lot of wrestling-related media.

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 01:31 PM
Bix is being a turd here. Helms is right.

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 01:33 PM
Does anyone else remember this/did this?

Before the internet, listed in the newspaper there was a free hotline you could call and then enter a 5 digit code to hear news/rumors about about a different subject. I used to call every Tuesday to hear wrestling rumors/scoops. I remember the guy had a deep voice but I can't remember his name.



We had something like that in Canada called "Talking Yellow Book"

They had a free wrestling hotline. Usually it was Cody Boyns reading off rumors and results.

Mr. Nerfect
11-07-2021, 01:34 PM
The problem is that the business side of wrestling is more exciting than the actual content these companies produce.

Wrestling’s to blame for wrestling’s problems.

slik
11-07-2021, 01:44 PM
We had something like that in Canada called "Talking Yellow Book"

They had a free wrestling hotline. Usually it was Cody Boyns reading off rumors and results.

I bet that was the same guy I listened to,

TY Gertner!

slik
11-07-2021, 01:53 PM
Wow, it started way before the 90s too, I found an article about it from October 1989...why isn't there a movie about this precursor to the internet out there?


https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1989-10-18-8902050012-story.html

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 02:12 PM
I was calling that line at around 95-96. Lol I remember hearing the rumor that the Disco Inferno was jumping to the WWF

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 02:14 PM
There's still free wrestling hotlines that exist

Dominic Valenti still does one. Has forever. The number is

773-572-6398

slik
11-07-2021, 02:54 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What happened to qualifying matches ��</p>&mdash; Ricochet (@KingRicochet) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/1457432994461982720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

weather vane
11-07-2021, 03:22 PM
There's still free wrestling hotlines that exist

Dominic Valenti still does one. Has forever. The number is

773-572-6398

This is incredible.

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 04:00 PM
These useless tidbits occupy a space in my brain for whatever reason

Wehttam
11-07-2021, 06:19 PM
We had something like that in Canada called "Talking Yellow Book"

They had a free wrestling hotline. Usually it was Cody Boyns reading off rumors and results.

i remember it from the phone book. there were also numbers to do quizzes and such. i'd get my rumors, play a few music quizzes and then play some nhl 94

Bad News Gertner
11-07-2021, 06:40 PM
Lol they had a baseball trivia game that I played constantly.

Mr. Nerfect
11-08-2021, 03:11 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What happened to qualifying matches ��</p>&mdash; Ricochet (@KingRicochet) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingRicochet/status/1457432994461982720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well, he wants out.

Mr. Nerfect
11-08-2021, 06:11 AM
I was just on the WWE roster page and saw that apparently Jimmy Yang and Petey Williams work for the company as agents? I don’t know why, but that seems odd to me. Still, the weirdest one is them hiring Sylvain Grenier to be in that position.

XL
11-08-2021, 09:44 AM
That great wrestling mind Sylvain Grenier?

Bad News Gertner
11-08-2021, 09:56 AM
I'm guessing that was a favour for Pat Patterson

Bad News Gertner
11-08-2021, 10:27 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An injured Fit Finlay once pinned Jimmy Hart to win a four-corners tag team match that neither were wrestling in. <a href="https://t.co/H9cRckG14y">pic.twitter.com/H9cRckG14y</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1457514765308338184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-08-2021, 12:29 PM
Remember when Fit Finlay was the official who just kind of shrugged and let Becky Lynch into the Women’s Royal Rumble that year she won? Rules do not apply to this man.

Gerard
11-08-2021, 01:01 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
11-08-2021, 01:13 PM
I'm guessing that was a favour for Pat Patterson

That’s what I *kinda* figured, but it seems WAAAAY too much.

He was hired at the beginning of 2020. I find it pretty coincidental that the 2020 Rumble was one of the better booked ones in a while. Thought it may have been payment for Pat getting his hands in there, but apparently that was mainly a Brock, Heyman, Lance Storm and Jamie Noble.

I dunno. Just weird to think of Sylvan advising people on how to structure their wrestling match. I guess there are other things agents can do/are responsible for.

Mr. Nerfect
11-08-2021, 03:51 PM
I’m not interested in WOW, per se, but I do find it interesting that Viacom is throwing it’s hat into the wrestling game. I do wonder what moves, if any, they will make in early 2022, and whether or not there is any interest in a men’s program to go along with it.

Bad News Gertner
11-08-2021, 05:10 PM
Apparently Matt Tremont stiffed Onita on his payout for their DeathMatch that didn't draw shit lol

slik
11-08-2021, 05:14 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wcw93?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wcw93</a> <a href="https://t.co/RreVLTF0hn">pic.twitter.com/RreVLTF0hn</a></p>&mdash; Jus��in (@Justin_SofOK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_SofOK/status/1457497191111700482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Shockmaster's bearhug drop might beat the Overdrive for worst finisher in wrestling. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wcw93?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wcw93</a> <a href="https://t.co/BCJUg1RcPM">pic.twitter.com/BCJUg1RcPM</a></p>&mdash; Jus��in (@Justin_SofOK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_SofOK/status/1457498564704317443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The original NWO theme (used for a couple of PPVs too) that’s just “Crazy” by Seal was so good. Crimes were about to occur. <a href="https://t.co/KgfXaUzFFc">pic.twitter.com/KgfXaUzFFc</a></p>&mdash; Dan (@GolazoDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GolazoDan/status/1457704276638187526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw
11-08-2021, 05:26 PM
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Mr. Nerfect
11-08-2021, 05:28 PM
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Didn’t Paige like totally froth on the guy?

Bad News Gertner
11-08-2021, 05:36 PM
I cringe looking at that Shockmaster gif. That dudes knees. Yikes.

Gerard
11-08-2021, 05:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The original NWO theme (used for a couple of PPVs too) that’s just “Crazy” by Seal was so good. Crimes were about to occur. <a href="https://t.co/KgfXaUzFFc">pic.twitter.com/KgfXaUzFFc</a></p>&mdash; Dan (@GolazoDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GolazoDan/status/1457704276638187526?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oddly enough, the "rockhouse" nwo theme (the standard nwo theme) is basically a load of sound samples from hendrix songs pieced together and extended to be a theme.

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Gerard
11-08-2021, 05:59 PM
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Isn't it funny how a simple thing like letting the music play can make something seem more real and unexpected? Not something that would ever happen these days, the micro maanaging mid 70's maniac would have a stroke over something like that.

Gerard
11-08-2021, 06:20 PM
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And here we compare Calloways version of how he became the Undertaker character to Hogans delusional fantasy version that only exists in Hogan land. :roll::wtf:

Sepholio
11-08-2021, 07:32 PM
It will always be weird to me to watch these interviews with Taker where he is just himself. The deadman persona is just so ingrained into my memory that seeing the real him is just wild. Seems like a really cool dude irl, someone you could go grab the proverbial couple of beers with.

ron the dial
11-08-2021, 09:02 PM
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Bad News Gertner
11-09-2021, 08:35 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are bears who maul people more gently than Scott Norton destroyed Bob Starr. <a href="https://t.co/QpF5scYlQA">pic.twitter.com/QpF5scYlQA</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1457912413907472387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/g6JbqF9cX2">https://t.co/g6JbqF9cX2</a> <a href="https://t.co/SKhtCIBE5Y">pic.twitter.com/SKhtCIBE5Y</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1457916177699811330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave
11-09-2021, 10:23 AM
Fuuuuuuuuck, those were some stiff ass shots man.




He's still one of my top "guys never to piss off during a work".

Lock Jaw
11-09-2021, 11:55 AM
I wish Scott Norton was a bigger deal.... feel like I barely remember him from when I was a kid except for being one of the random nWo B-team people....

Lock Jaw
11-09-2021, 11:57 AM
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drave
11-09-2021, 12:07 PM
I wish Regal had more time

GD
11-09-2021, 01:39 PM
I vividly recall Regal making Punk tap out to become KOTR. Would've loved to see him as champion.

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GD
11-09-2021, 01:41 PM
Damb @ Scott Armstrong dawning the WWECW referee t-shirt.

slik
11-09-2021, 08:54 PM
tried to watch nxt again...had to turn it off...it is SO bad...like damn

#1-norm-fan
11-09-2021, 09:02 PM
tried to watch nxt again...had to turn it off...it is SO bad...like damn

I used to keep up with it through Cornette but he can’t even bring himself to review it anymore. It’s gotta be REALLY unremarkable.

slik
11-09-2021, 09:12 PM
When Kushida walked up to Jiro and said "I am Japanese, You are Japanese, we are a tag team now" I had to turn it off.

Every segment is like Bruce Pritchard on steroids...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Bigboawwe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Bigboawwe</a> is possessed! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWENXT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWENXT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeGacy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeGacy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/FearTianSha?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FearTianSha</a> <a href="https://t.co/0yaKd2oDfk">pic.twitter.com/0yaKd2oDfk</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1458250277916643328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan
11-09-2021, 09:40 PM
Bruce Prichard on steroids is Vince McMahon.

Bad News Gertner
11-09-2021, 09:47 PM
Lmao


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When they get turnt at the Hall &amp; Oates concert <a href="https://t.co/PkxPSnNZjf">pic.twitter.com/PkxPSnNZjf</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1458161791536705539?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-10-2021, 05:15 AM
Cornette’s idea for the NXT time slot was basically my suggestion. Scrap NXT (or put it on Hulu or the Network exclusively) and use the 2-hour Tuesday slot for a Raw vs. SmackDown program. Or at least something using main roster talents in ways you wouldn’t usually see on Raw and SmackDown.

NXT is just not helping anyone right now. It can be restricted programming and exist and be whatever, but it’s on basic cable.

GD
11-10-2021, 03:23 PM
Remember when JBL won the Smackdown Championship?

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Bad News Gertner
11-10-2021, 03:40 PM
The day that the WWE died. JBL should still be champ.

XL
11-10-2021, 06:02 PM
Cornette’s idea for the NXT time slot was basically my suggestion. Scrap NXT (or put it on Hulu or the Network exclusively) and use the 2-hour Tuesday slot for a Raw vs. SmackDown program. Or at least something using main roster talents in ways you wouldn’t usually see on Raw and SmackDown.

NXT is just not helping anyone right now. It can be restricted programming and exist and be whatever, but it’s on basic cable.

When did you suggest this?

Bad News Gertner
11-10-2021, 07:25 PM
Regal is amazing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Blue Bloods’ tags were so awesome. <a href="https://t.co/kiNkMVKMEp">pic.twitter.com/kiNkMVKMEp</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1458494514671259653?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-11-2021, 02:07 AM
When did you suggest this?

Probably about the 3rd week of NXT 2.0. My pitch was to open with Rey Mysterio vs. Ricochet. Just “out AEW” AEW content. Use the slot to produce content their audience can’t deny is better.

Bad News Gertner
11-11-2021, 10:05 AM
This is great. I love that Bobby's final appearance on both WWF and WCW t.v involves Bobby stealing something

EZfR2BGVinI

Stu Hart
11-11-2021, 01:10 PM
admit it , this is why you watch

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Gerard
11-11-2021, 06:34 PM
admit it , this is why you watch

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https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5491126&postcount=62057

2 pages back, ya senile old tit.



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Stu Hart
11-11-2021, 11:44 PM
Ehh

Bad News Gertner
11-12-2021, 08:47 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I feel bad posting a gif of Norman Smiley getting kicked so hard in the head by The Cat, but The Feliner was such a good move. <a href="https://t.co/IKEG8evwNY">pic.twitter.com/IKEG8evwNY</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1458976600452648962?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-12-2021, 08:50 AM
Just noticed there was a wrestler named "Dick Nipple", who wrestled on Juggalo Championshit Wrestling shows lmao

Dick Nipple

Mr. Nerfect
11-13-2021, 05:14 PM
WALTER is said to be open to moving to the United States now. Inject that into my veins.

GD
11-13-2021, 06:01 PM
WALTER is said to be open to moving to the United States now. Inject that into my veins.

Nerfect's probably the only person in the world who's excited by the fact that WALTER is possibly going through a divorce.

Vastardikai
11-13-2021, 10:06 PM
Nerfect's probably the only person in the world who's excited by the fact that WALTER is possibly going through a divorce.

Yeah. That's exactly what he's excited about. Not the possibility that one of the best wrestlers in the world is considering a mainstream run. :|

That's a stretch not even Dhalsim can pull off.

Bad News Gertner
11-13-2021, 10:10 PM
These two had quite a few matches on Pro/Worldwide. It's amazing how these two pull this off and it doesn't look choreographed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s Rey Mysterio Jr. doing Rey Mysterio Jr. things… <a href="https://t.co/XmIvBeMDKV">pic.twitter.com/XmIvBeMDKV</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1459676406292619266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0
11-14-2021, 01:16 AM
Nobody should be excited for WALTER to move to the US if it’s fit a main roster run. You’re just likely setting yourself up for disappointment.

Mr. Nerfect
11-14-2021, 02:20 AM
Yeah. That's exactly what he's excited about. Not the possibility that one of the best wrestlers in the world is considering a mainstream run. :|

That's a stretch not even Dhalsim can pull off.

Ha, what a joke from such a shady piece of shit.

Mr. Nerfect
11-14-2021, 02:22 AM
These two had quite a few matches on Pro/Worldwide. It's amazing how these two pull this off and it doesn't look choreographed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s Rey Mysterio Jr. doing Rey Mysterio Jr. things… <a href="https://t.co/XmIvBeMDKV">pic.twitter.com/XmIvBeMDKV</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1459676406292619266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Of the most insane things the internet produces when it comes to wrestling coverage, Dean Malenko being #1 in the PWI is one of those justifiable ones.

Tom Guycott
11-15-2021, 12:36 AM
I vividly recall Regal making Punk tap out to become KOTR. Would've loved to see him as champion.

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Wasn't this the beginning of that awesome "I am your ruler, your better, your king" gimmick that got cut short because he got popped on a wellness violation?

Jordan
11-15-2021, 01:22 AM
These two had quite a few matches on Pro/Worldwide. It's amazing how these two pull this off and it doesn't look choreographed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s Rey Mysterio Jr. doing Rey Mysterio Jr. things… <a href="https://t.co/XmIvBeMDKV">pic.twitter.com/XmIvBeMDKV</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1459676406292619266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You should see Darby/MJF, puts that to shame!

Ever seen Tiger Mask/Dynamite Kid? Forget about it! Just watch Dynamite!

Mr. Nerfect
11-15-2021, 03:37 AM
Wasn't this the beginning of that awesome "I am your ruler, your better, your king" gimmick that got cut short because he got popped on a wellness violation?

Yep, this was the thing. He was Raw General Manager and basically rigged the King of the Ring and started abusing his power.

GD
11-15-2021, 04:19 AM
Yeah. That's exactly what he's excited about. Not the possibility that one of the best wrestlers in the world is considering a mainstream run. :|

That's a stretch not even Dhalsim can pull off.

If one truly cares about WALTER's integrity as a wrestler, they should know that a "mainstream run" will only be detrimental.

GD
11-15-2021, 04:20 AM
Ha, what a joke from such a shady piece of shit.

I think Vastardikai was trying to defend you :shifty:

Oh well, he'll never read this anyway.

weather vane
11-15-2021, 04:27 AM
Lollllll

slik
11-15-2021, 11:26 PM
Has to be one of the laziest taglines for a WM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WrestleMania</a> 38 – the most stupendous two-night <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleMania?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestleMania</a> in history! <a href="https://t.co/lwJ2mDTnwk">pic.twitter.com/lwJ2mDTnwk</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1460446590469091329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw
11-15-2021, 11:32 PM
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weather vane
11-16-2021, 12:04 AM
That can’t be real. Haha?

Evil Vito
11-16-2021, 08:40 AM
"The ultimate thrill ride" was a better tag line than that.

slik
11-16-2021, 02:23 PM
When your show is so bad you lose even reddit


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Mr. Nerfect
11-16-2021, 03:21 PM
AEW is fun to talk about. You’ve got crazy fanboys to file up. WWE is comparatively tame to talk about. It’s still watched by several times the audience. And a lot of them just shut up and watch, unlike this weird AEW cult that needs to go out and convince you this is a great promotion.

Plus, I’m pretty sure if you checked out the social media stats, way more people engaged with Raw than Dynamite. I can’t be sure, because I haven’t checked those stats, but that used to be the case.

Bad News Gertner
11-16-2021, 10:12 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Barbarian threw Brad Armstrong down like he was a broken toy. <a href="https://t.co/pLTHbkhV8P">pic.twitter.com/pLTHbkhV8P</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1460794549698285581?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316
11-16-2021, 11:22 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Barbarian threw Brad Armstrong down like he was a broken toy. <a href="https://t.co/pLTHbkhV8P">pic.twitter.com/pLTHbkhV8P</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1460794549698285581?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Barb was always a beast. Warlord was a bit bigger, but Barbarian was the one I was scared of as a kid. He just had those serial killer eyes.

Bad News Gertner
11-17-2021, 02:37 PM
Lol oh my fucking God

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vladimir Petrov may not have been a good wrestler....but he could take your damn soul with a clothesline <a href="https://t.co/NalycDIWTK">pic.twitter.com/NalycDIWTK</a></p>&mdash; Kris Zellner (@KrisZellner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1461049089274130441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-17-2021, 02:39 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a gnarly snapmare counter by Mona (Molly Holly). <a href="https://t.co/xsiHdLZIO5">pic.twitter.com/xsiHdLZIO5</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1460768700190056463?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Fraze
11-17-2021, 05:17 PM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/FMcTCYYPChdCw/giphy.gif

GD
11-17-2021, 05:31 PM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/FMcTCYYPChdCw/giphy.gif

Hey, I know who that tall handsome lad is in the crowd :)

Gerard
11-17-2021, 07:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Barbarian threw Brad Armstrong down like he was a broken toy. <a href="https://t.co/pLTHbkhV8P">pic.twitter.com/pLTHbkhV8P</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1460794549698285581?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Never thought of the Barbarian to be dishing out chokeslams. :wtf:

slik
11-17-2021, 10:30 PM
damn

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the lowest P18-49 ever for NXT on USA since its September 2019 debut as a weekly program.<br><br>It's the lowest total viewership since February 10, when the show was on Wednesday against Dynamite.<br><br>Median viewer age was 62.<br><br>�� Full report: <a href="https://t.co/dbeZIJmTOu">https://t.co/dbeZIJmTOu</a> <a href="https://t.co/dwmTLMo1kb">pic.twitter.com/dwmTLMo1kb</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1461083594286379012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2021, 02:51 AM
Those are almost Rampage numbers.

drave
11-18-2021, 07:49 AM
its gotta be some other reason tho innit

Evil Vito
11-18-2021, 10:30 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bret Hart has suffered a stroke, overcome cancer, and dealt with the tragic loss of family and friends. Some people would quit, but he went out and got his bachelor’s degree in health and physical education at 64 years old. An absolute legend. <a href="https://t.co/XGqvyToFLL">pic.twitter.com/XGqvyToFLL</a></p>&mdash; ADAM TOOL BAY BAY (@AdamTool) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamTool/status/1456275070200942604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2021, 11:42 AM
its gotta be some other reason tho innit

The show doesn’t work. It’s the same reason Rampage and Dynamite have been slipping too.

Fignuts
11-18-2021, 01:12 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“How do we get this 18 year old hunk over?”<br><br>“Let’s call every housewife we can find to come rub on him.” <a href="https://t.co/D1C1hEMqpu">pic.twitter.com/D1C1hEMqpu</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1461392515307819008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan
11-18-2021, 01:15 PM
damn

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the lowest P18-49 ever for NXT on USA since its September 2019 debut as a weekly program.<br><br>It's the lowest total viewership since February 10, when the show was on Wednesday against Dynamite.<br><br>Median viewer age was 62.<br><br>�� Full report: <a href="https://t.co/dbeZIJmTOu">https://t.co/dbeZIJmTOu</a> <a href="https://t.co/dwmTLMo1kb">pic.twitter.com/dwmTLMo1kb</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1461083594286379012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Huh. Dynamite is the only show whose total viewers are up from the beginning of the year.

Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2021, 02:45 PM
Huh. Dynamite is the only show whose total viewers are up from the beginning of the year.

Lol, you mean from when they retained their night unopposed? How are they doing week-to-week? Hmm, not so good.

#1-norm-fan
11-18-2021, 05:09 PM
Actually I meant from the beginning of that chart. So from October of last year I guess.

Nice!

Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2021, 07:58 PM
The apologetics for this flailing company are hilarious.

#1-norm-fan
11-18-2021, 08:14 PM
I'm sorry my stating facts makes the veins if your head explode.

Mr. Nerfect
11-19-2021, 01:21 AM
I'm sorry my stating facts makes the veins if your head explode.

You stopped stating facts a long time ago. Your posts are now limited to “Well actually” contrarianisms to provoke people into arguments they weren’t having, and sad bullshit apologetics for AEW. You’ve slipped.

#1-norm-fan
11-19-2021, 02:02 AM
I literally quoted the chart and stated a fact that is easily verifiable by looking at said chart...

#1-norm-fan
11-19-2021, 02:23 AM
<a href="https://imgbb.com/"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/pRhLkLp/05-C871-AE-7553-48-D1-8-CA4-92-C6800048-F1.jpg" alt="05-C871-AE-7553-48-D1-8-CA4-92-C6800048-F1" border="0"></a><br /><a target='_blank' href='https://imgbb.com/'></a><br />

Noid soon

GD
11-19-2021, 05:45 AM
His feelings don't care about your facts fan.

Evil Vito
11-19-2021, 03:03 PM
The Invasion angle ended 20 years ago yesterday.

Bad News Gertner
11-19-2021, 04:19 PM
Lmao

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lord Steven Regal has no time for your grandma. <a href="https://t.co/Xh21aVRvhE">pic.twitter.com/Xh21aVRvhE</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1461748458872786953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Savio
11-19-2021, 04:54 PM
Plus, I’m pretty sure if you checked out the social media stats, way more people engaged with Raw than Dynamite. I can’t be sure, because I haven’t checked those stats, but that used to be the case.


7 pages for a PPV. Weak as shit.

drave
11-20-2021, 09:40 AM
Lmao

Lord Steven Regal has no time for your grandma. pic.twitter.com/Xh21aVRvhE (https://t.co/Xh21aVRvhE)
— WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) November 19, 2021 (https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1461748458872786953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) <script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>




I need a collection of his. He was truly great in every tiny action he took.

slik
11-20-2021, 09:47 AM
I'm not surprised. About 38k sold for each night so far. Ticket prices 'too expensive' in my opinion. I looked the other day out of curiosity and the section I sat in at WM32 for $220 is now $355 (for one night).


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some disappointment in WWE concerning WrestleMania 38 ticket sales:<a href="https://t.co/QnG2mgYm5B">https://t.co/QnG2mgYm5B</a></p>&mdash; Pro Wrestling Torch (@PWTorch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PWTorch/status/1461879236629831680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave
11-20-2021, 09:49 AM
bro even their regular shows have been expensive for the past few years (before and after COVID).


I remember asking my son 2 years ago what he wanted more:

Meet and greet with Tech N9ne and fam




Just entry into RAW - without buying any merch


Two lower-level seats after taxes and charges were about $225. We paid $125/piece for meet and greet passes plus a SHIT TON of merch AND a live concert.

drave
11-20-2021, 10:00 AM
Here's Macho Man getting kicked in the face :D


https://i.redd.it/urrzon1dvq081.gif

drave
11-20-2021, 10:03 AM
Also, Paul Heyman will never NOT be amazing on the fucking mic. Good god.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1461894707764776960

slik
11-20-2021, 10:32 AM
Heyman deserves to headline a HOF class

Gerard
11-20-2021, 01:38 PM
Also, Paul Heyman will never NOT be amazing on the fucking mic. Good god.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1461894707764776960

Again with the wwe trademark each and every one of you spiel. :roll:

owenbrown
11-20-2021, 02:55 PM
Has to be one of the laziest taglines for a WM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WrestleMania</a> 38 – the most stupendous two-night <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleMania?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestleMania</a> in history! <a href="https://t.co/lwJ2mDTnwk">pic.twitter.com/lwJ2mDTnwk</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1460446590469091329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Iron Sheik should be there just like Bobby Heenan said when Sheik was walking to the ring for the Gimmick Battle Royal at WM 17

drave
11-20-2021, 02:59 PM
Again with the wwe trademark each and every one of you spiel. :roll:




cadenced or not, they were great lines, and only paul heyman could get away with it

owenbrown
11-20-2021, 03:07 PM
side note: Stories with Brisco and Bradshaw is so good.

Gerard
11-20-2021, 05:39 PM
I'm not surprised. About 38k sold for each night so far. Ticket prices 'too expensive' in my opinion. I looked the other day out of curiosity and the section I sat in at WM32 for $220 is now $355 (for one night).


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some disappointment in WWE concerning WrestleMania 38 ticket sales:<a href="https://t.co/QnG2mgYm5B">https://t.co/QnG2mgYm5B</a></p>&mdash; Pro Wrestling Torch (@PWTorch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PWTorch/status/1461879236629831680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Still sticking with the 2 night gimmick, wonder if this is permanent or not..

fundiddle
11-20-2021, 10:18 PM
didn't we already have Wrestlemania ★?


should be Wrestlemania ★II (https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/star-symbols/)
(https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/star-symbols/)

XL
11-21-2021, 02:59 AM
Also, Paul Heyman will never NOT be amazing on the fucking mic. Good god.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1461894707764776960

#CancelPaulHeyman

Rammsteinmad
11-21-2021, 11:32 AM
Low ticket sales is good. Maybe WWE will reconsider the two-night thing and go back to one.

Evil Vito
11-21-2021, 12:01 PM
Two night Mania is way easier to digest than a single night 7 hour Mania.

Ideally one single 4 hour show should be enough but WWE is never gonna go back to that.

Mr. Nerfect
11-21-2021, 12:11 PM
Aren’t they at like 38k for each show? 76k for a show that hasn’t had anything announced yet might seem slow to people expecting them to immediately sell out, but it’s far from the grimmest things I’ve ever heard.

I also think the two night formula needs to be tested in front of people. I just expect them to do mixed roster shows that play like the last two Manias but with a crowd, but there are potential things you can do with that format. You can do a Raw night and a SmackDown night. You can thematically build throughout the two shows. You can even have one show play off another. There’s no real reason you can’t have someone wrestle on both shows (other than the politics of them getting two spots).

I don’t expect the WWE to get creative with things, but the potential for creativity is there. Especially down the line.

Mr. Nerfect
11-21-2021, 12:55 PM
Always have this inkling in the back of my mind that if Vince gets really desperate, he might try and ink something with Steve Austin.

The money would have always been there for Austin, but the giant TV rights money only kicked in at the end of 2019. Then we hit the pandemic which we’re only just coming out of. I think they were announced in 2018. Then we got the Becky push and Austin actually took a bump for her on some show.

Austin is 57. Sure, that’s “old.” But if he has the itch at all, or sees the opportunity to make a giant star out of himself again — “Look Hollywood, this old cowboy’s got this much left” — the window is…more urgent than it’s possibly been for a guy who has always had “maybe” in the back of his mind. And who knows? Maybe his grandkids really want to see him wrestle or something?

If they got him back for a couple of matches/maybe a special run, this would probably happen at Saudi Arabia, but the actual possibility of Austin vs. Goldberg? That would supersede anything else possible right now — including the contemporary story for Roman and Brock. There’s your night two main event.

I’m not “predicting it,” per se. I’m just saying that it’s not the most insane thing in the world given that the company’s got all these billion dollar deals now, and they realistically could use something huge, and that’s the biggest thing that’s remotely possible to them (The Rock’s not wrestling). Just because it hasn’t happened bye doesn’t mean factors there can’t change. Shawn Michaels sat out for 8 years.

Gerard
11-21-2021, 06:55 PM
Always have this inkling in the back of my mind that if Vince gets really desperate, he might try and ink something with Steve Austin.


If he did he'd be wrestling with a t shirt on, he doesn't seem to be in the gym like his wwe days. Expected considering he's retired and given his age.

https://i.imgur.com/KIFMqr0.jpg

Bad News Gertner
11-21-2021, 07:36 PM
Austin was so raided up by 2000/2001

fundiddle
11-21-2021, 08:20 PM
Always have this inkling in the back of my mind that if Vince gets really desperate, he might try and ink something with Steve Austin.

The money would have always been there for Austin, but the giant TV rights money only kicked in at the end of 2019. Then we hit the pandemic which we’re only just coming out of. I think they were announced in 2018. Then we got the Becky push and Austin actually took a bump for her on some show.

Austin is 57. Sure, that’s “old.” But if he has the itch at all, or sees the opportunity to make a giant star out of himself again — “Look Hollywood, this old cowboy’s got this much left” — the window is…more urgent than it’s possibly been for a guy who has always had “maybe” in the back of his mind. And who knows? Maybe his grandkids really want to see him wrestle or something?

If they got him back for a couple of matches/maybe a special run, this would probably happen at Saudi Arabia, but the actual possibility of Austin vs. Goldberg? That would supersede anything else possible right now — including the contemporary story for Roman and Brock. There’s your night two main event.

I’m not “predicting it,” per se. I’m just saying that it’s not the most insane thing in the world given that the company’s got all these billion dollar deals now, and they realistically could use something huge, and that’s the biggest thing that’s remotely possible to them (The Rock’s not wrestling). Just because it hasn’t happened bye doesn’t mean factors there can’t change. Shawn Michaels sat out for 8 years.
the only insane thing about this is that you fantasized about it, and some of us read it

The Fraze
11-22-2021, 03:12 AM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/LbcYCssFTT2Te/giphy.gif

screech
11-22-2021, 04:39 AM
Two night Mania is way easier to digest than a single night 7 hour Mania.

Ideally one single 4 hour show should be enough but WWE is never gonna go back to that.

Yeah the days of WrestleMania being the best of the best instead of "let's get everyone on the card" are long gone, I think.

Since that seems to be the case, I'll take two four hour shows over one seven to eight hour show every time.

Gerard
11-22-2021, 09:53 AM
Two night Mania is way easier to digest than a single night 7 hour Mania.

Ideally one single 4 hour show should be enough but WWE is never gonna go back to that.

Aye, 2 nights of shit is easier to take in than a single large dose.

drave
11-22-2021, 09:56 AM
Ugh..... already don't even care about Mania :(


Reasonable predictions:


The main event matches will feature some heel champion v some megastar from the past. the other title will be a heel rumble winner v the face champ. Either way, it will be one "regularly featured" superstar against some people brought it just for Mania, thus making me not care about any build to it. I've been "WWE'd".


The Rumble is always fun though. Right now, I'm looking forward to the Rumble match itself.

#1-norm-fan
11-22-2021, 11:34 AM
I still try to watch the Rumble every year because even bad Rumbles are kinda fun. But with two WrestleMania title matches they have a tendency now to have the challenger of the less important title win for “shock value” which has taken away from the stakes of the match.

Evil Vito
11-22-2021, 11:39 AM
If I could watch only one WWE match a year, it would be the Rumble.

That said, last year was the least interested I've ever felt in a Rumble match...although knowing it was in an empty stadium was a big reason why. You need that genuine crowd reaction for the surprise entrants.

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 11:39 AM
Reasonable Mania predictions:

* Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar
* Big E vs. Edge
* Randy Orton vs. Matt Riddle
* Becky Lynch vs. Bianca Belair
* Seth Rollins vs. Montez Ford
* Drew McIntyre vs. someone
* An AJ Styles match, possibly against Finn Balor
* Something involving Bad Bunny and/or Logan Paul
* A Bobby Lashley match

It’s really not that grim. SmackDown actually looks a little bleaker, but you put together things like an opponent for Drew, maybe do an Xavier/Kofi feud (I’m split on this), Nakamura vs. Zayn for the IC Title, a good Cesaro match and a strong babyface team to challenge The Usos and you’re kind of laughing.

drave
11-22-2021, 11:40 AM
Indeed. On top of Mania being an entire fucking weekend worth of time, its just too much.


Wresetlemania 2042: A 5 day stupendous stampede of steroids and superstars!!!!

drave
11-22-2021, 11:41 AM
* Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar
* Big E vs. Edge
* Randy Orton vs. Matt Riddle
* Becky Lynch vs. Bianca Belair
* Seth Rollins vs. Montez Ford
* Drew McIntyre vs. someone
* An AJ Styles match, possibly against Finn Balor
* Something involving Bad Bunny and/or Logan Paul
* A Bobby Lashley match


This honestly sounds like it could be ANY ppv throughout the year. This is a big part of the problem with a homogenized product.

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 11:50 AM
This honestly sounds like it could be ANY ppv throughout the year. This is a big part of the problem with a homogenized product.

WrestleMania could be any PPV throughout the year. That’s why you build it up to be special with the stories. I mean, the only other thing that would inherently make it special is that you have those part-timers you were just complaining about.

* Brock and Roman has been the best thing in WWE and frankly deserves to be the main event.

* Becky and Bianca, should that be the match, has been set up since SummerSlam. I mean, they might move in a different direction, but if they go towards Liv Morgan for Day One, you’re then into Rumble season.

* Seth Rollins and Montez Ford could be the husbands fighting, which would be an amazing opportunity for a dude with star potential to step up and have an arrival party. People whinge about new stars not being created all the time.

* Orton vs. Riddle has been building since they started teaming, whenever that was.

* AJ Styles having an amazing wrestling match is always a treat.

* Big E vs. Edge is just me putting together something on the Raw side. But the story of Edge’s comeback has been him wanting to be the champion. It’s a bit uninspired to have him go after it as a babyface again, especially against Big E. Edge going to a dark place (we haven’t seen him since Hell in a Cell) could tell a cool story of the veteran going super-obsessive about getting one more run.

You fill it up with the pomp and circumstance, WrestleMania is going to be fine. Sorry you don’t like it, but it’s perfectly fine for modern wrestling context with something half-way resembling having a vision to it. Especially if the prerogative is to make young stars like Bianca Belair, Montez Ford, Toni Storm, Matt Riddle, etc. at the show.

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 12:15 PM
This Vince McMahon egg storyline could potentially set something up for WrestleMania too. Adam Pearce has been charged with uncovering who stole it. That puts Adam Pearce and Von Wagner, and possibly Vince McMahon himself, at odds with the thief.

drave
11-22-2021, 01:20 PM
WrestleMania could be any PPV throughout the year. That’s why you build it up to be special with the stories. I mean, the only other thing that would inherently make it special is that you have those part-timers you were just complaining about.


They kinda did this to themselves though didn't they? So far, the storyline from a movie is the best thing they have going. :|


I guess if that's your cuppa.

drave
11-22-2021, 01:31 PM
Fuck it.




Tony Khan stole the egg. There. 100000% more entertaining than anything else being built at the moment.

Evil Vito
11-22-2021, 02:14 PM
I worry for the 2033 WWE roster when Vince finally gets around to watching Squid Game.

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 03:56 PM
Fuck it.




Tony Khan stole the egg. There. 100000% more entertaining than anything else being built at the moment.

Nothing with Tony Khan involved in it as a performer is going to be anywhere near entertaining. Even as a withered husk of what he used to be, Vince has way more on-air charisma.

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 04:02 PM
They kinda did this to themselves though didn't they? So far, the storyline from a movie is the best thing they have going. :|


I guess if that's your cuppa.

Yeah, wrestling has driven away a lot of what made it special. The WWE chased away a lot of casual fans, so their audiences being compromised of a larger margin of smarks is their fault. That’s why they’ve got this perceived ticket trouble with the smark favorite in majorly populated areas too.

The WWE does have a perception problem with some segments of the audience. But it is also more popular, more widely know and more effective at generating content for a general audience than anything close to a competition its got is. They will churn out that WrestleMania card, and honestly, if they fill those stadiums with more local fans, as opposed to super hardcore fans from the UK and elsewhere abroad, it might actually be a good thing for them. More sincere reactions, more fans that are out spreading word about the product, etc.

They could certainly take more chances creatively. They play it way safe, and I understand why, but it does not make for the most thrilling product to say the least. They’ve got the talent and the resources to be better within safe parameters. But you see them edging towards that at time. People seemed to really enjoy the Crown Jewel show, for example, and some have even been saying that Raw has been better.

Bad News Gertner
11-22-2021, 04:05 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know, <a href="https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealKingRegal</a> is the best. <a href="https://t.co/mq9oq6Rv3O">pic.twitter.com/mq9oq6Rv3O</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1437485275400359936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 04:21 PM
Regal seems to be a star of those WCW Deep Cuts. I probably need to go back and watch more of him from that era.

Bad News Gertner
11-22-2021, 04:28 PM
He's so entertaining during those 96-97 B show matches on Worldwide and Pro because he interacts with the crowd. It's so funny.

Gerard
11-22-2021, 04:30 PM
If I could watch only one WWE match a year, it would be the Rumble.



You ever hear the story about how the rumble came to be? Patterson came up with the idea and presented it to the "genius" Vince who said it was a stupid idea. It was only when one of the network heads got to hear of it (Dick Ebersol) he liked the idea and the concept of the countdown with people wanting to see who was coming in next kept people watching.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oYHWlOdBZcA?start=486" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The Fraze
11-22-2021, 04:37 PM
Everyone convince Tb1 to train again and one day land in AEW.

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 04:48 PM
The Royal Rumble, if you think about it, is a really bizarre idea in terms of a wrestling business that was still engaged with kayfabe. Why would it make any sense for their to be staggered entry? It’s a crapshoot and very “gimmicky.”

Yeah, it worked out, but how many other ideas like it have worked? How many other promotions have done knockoff Rumbles that sucked? How many WWE ones in recent years have been boring or forgettable. They kind of worked under Patterson and his attention to detail and finishes and the like. But the Royal Rumble has been coasting on that nostalgia for sometime.

Bad News Gertner
11-22-2021, 04:55 PM
The only thing I watch every year is the Men's Rumble and even last year I couldn't be bothered. I hate how every run runns out, gets in the ring, does one spot and then fucks off till they get eliminated. Every. Single. Time.

And I get it for free

Mr. Nerfect
11-22-2021, 05:12 PM
Sometimes it seems you get a a guy coming in and doing their finisher to a few guys. Then they soak up a mild pop and disappear. But that may not have happened for a few years.

#1-norm-fan
11-22-2021, 05:25 PM
The only thing I watch every year is the Men's Rumble and even last year I couldn't be bothered. I hate how every run runns out, gets in the ring, does one spot and then fucks off till they get eliminated. Every. Single. Time.

And I get it for free

How do you get it for free because I’d like to finagle that through legal means.

#1-norm-fan
11-22-2021, 05:35 PM
The Royal Rumble, if you think about it, is a really bizarre idea in terms of a wrestling business that was still engaged with kayfabe. Why would it make any sense for their to be staggered entry? It’s a crapshoot and very “gimmicky.”

Yeah, it worked out, but how many other ideas like it have worked? How many other promotions have done knockoff Rumbles that sucked? How many WWE ones in recent years have been boring or forgettable. They kind of worked under Patterson and his attention to detail and finishes and the like. But the Royal Rumble has been coasting on that nostalgia for sometime.

As far as the gimmicky staggered entry thing, WarGames was similar and actually preceded it. Created by Dusty.

The Rhodes family. God bless their contributions to wrestling.

Bad News Gertner
11-22-2021, 06:40 PM
How do you get it for free because I’d like to finagle that through legal means.

I have an Android box. For $20 a month I get 7000 channels and every ppv. IPTV.

Plus I get like 27,000 movies and 2600 on demand. New releases and stuff.

screech
11-22-2021, 07:50 PM
The only thing I watch every year is the Men's Rumble and even last year I couldn't be bothered. I hate how every run runns out, gets in the ring, does one spot and then fucks off till they get eliminated. Every. Single. Time.

And I get it for free

It has kinda devolved into "guys waiting for someone to hit a spot" over the last few years. Maybe longer.

screech
11-22-2021, 07:51 PM
Also will never forget being at the show with the first women's rumble. So many people were lying at ringside and no one could tell who had been eliminated or not. It was bad lol

Bad News Gertner
11-22-2021, 09:32 PM
Lol I remember this. His finisher was the "Jungle Kick"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chuck Palumbo’s first gimmick was Jungle Boy, but way bigger. <a href="https://t.co/bi33Ac2HNl">pic.twitter.com/bi33Ac2HNl</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1462962028646223874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
11-23-2021, 12:36 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per PWInsider, the Vladimir &quot;Superfan&quot; documentary that WWE shot and completed a while back will likely not see the light of day for a long time, if ever. No plans to finally air it, as with the Lex Luger Icons episode. Why bother working on these things only to hide them away?</p>&mdash; Jason Solomon (@solomonster) <a href="https://twitter.com/solomonster/status/1463198674385874960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fundiddle
11-23-2021, 12:58 PM
i'v been wanting to see that ever since the trailer dropped, wondered what was going on with that

#1-norm-fan
11-23-2021, 01:04 PM
Didn’t they have an air date promoted for the Luger doc and then just... didn’t air it?

drave
11-23-2021, 01:24 PM
That dirty SOB is responsible for Miss Elizabeth's murder. DAYAM HIM!

Mr. Nerfect
11-23-2021, 01:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per PWInsider, the Vladimir &quot;Superfan&quot; documentary that WWE shot and completed a while back will likely not see the light of day for a long time, if ever. No plans to finally air it, as with the Lex Luger Icons episode. Why bother working on these things only to hide them away?</p>&mdash; Jason Solomon (@solomonster) <a href="https://twitter.com/solomonster/status/1463198674385874960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There are so many reasons products are never finalized, released, etc.

slik
11-23-2021, 02:00 PM
There are so many reasons products are never finalized, released, etc.


https://c.tenor.com/8C1wQJl221QAAAAC/sign-language-deaf.gif

BigCrippyZ
11-23-2021, 02:18 PM
There so many reasons why a moron would make a generic excuse to defend marketing a project that is ultimately never released.

Mr. Nerfect
11-23-2021, 02:53 PM
And it starts, hahaha. :lol:

Does anyone deny that there are a multitude of reasons a product doesn’t end up making air? Or are you just going to dogpile on someone for being correct?

BigCrippyZ
11-23-2021, 03:07 PM
Imagine being such an idiot that you believe people are giving you hell for making a correct but meaningless generic statement (as a justifiable excuse for a dumb decision,) when in reality people are giving you hell because you're a pathetic moron.

Mr. Nerfect
11-23-2021, 03:18 PM
Imagine being such an idiot that you believe people are giving you hell for making a correct but meaningless generic statement (as a justifiable excuse for a dumb decision,) when in reality people are giving you hell because you're a pathetic moron.

The fake lawyer, ladies and gentlemen. You can’t argue with reason like that. Just a reminder: this guy was all over my dick when my focus was on pointing out the stupid things WWE do. He turned homophobic and wild when I pointed out AEW sucks. He’s been obsessively hurling insults at me for so long, I should update people on that story.

Biggest fanboy on the boards. For both me and AEW.

Mr. Nerfect
11-23-2021, 03:20 PM
Again, does anyone dispute there are a whole bunch of reasons a creative project can enter production hell?

Mr. Nerfect
11-23-2021, 03:29 PM
https://c.tenor.com/8C1wQJl221QAAAAC/sign-language-deaf.gif

I reject your offer.

Bad News Gertner
11-23-2021, 03:36 PM
Regal seems to be a star of those WCW Deep Cuts. I probably need to go back and watch more of him from that era.

Scott Norton is definitely in 2nd.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That little push at the end from Scott Norton was perfect. <a href="https://t.co/L8YG9I7oV0">pic.twitter.com/L8YG9I7oV0</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1463206612248760330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-23-2021, 03:39 PM
He's so entertaining during those 96-97 B show matches on Worldwide and Pro because he interacts with the crowd. It's so funny.

Example

965iqjbgVCM

BigCrippyZ
11-23-2021, 03:41 PM
The fake lawyer, ladies and gentlemen. You can’t argue with reason like that. Just a reminder: this guy was all over my dick when my focus was on pointing out the stupid things WWE do. He turned homophobic and wild when I pointed out AEW sucks. He’s been obsessively hurling insults at me for so long, I should update people on that story.

Biggest fanboy on the boards. For both me and AEW.

Go on...

Mr. Nerfect
11-23-2021, 03:50 PM
Scott Norton is definitely in 2nd.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That little push at the end from Scott Norton was perfect. <a href="https://t.co/L8YG9I7oV0">pic.twitter.com/L8YG9I7oV0</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1463206612248760330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol, that was good. I’m admittedly not a big of Norton’s though. I might need to check the B/C show stuff.

weather vane
11-23-2021, 04:45 PM
The only things I like that WWE does are those Docs. Too bad. Was interested in both.

Bad News Gertner
11-23-2021, 04:52 PM
Same here. Especially the Vlad one.

ron the dial
11-23-2021, 05:27 PM
excited to go to dynamite tomorrow. love the wintrust arena. absolutely dreading punk vs. qt, but pumped for danielson vs. colt. saw them fight for the ROH title back in 2006 in chicago ridge, so this is nice treat 15 years later.

slik
11-23-2021, 05:42 PM
Nice

Damian Rey 2.0
11-23-2021, 08:12 PM
I hate all of you who have access to AEW live shows. The closest they’ve come here is Double or Nothing. Vegas is only an hour flight but man I wish they’d come to San Diego.

#1-norm-fan
11-23-2021, 08:42 PM
They haven’t done a show in LA yet? That seems strange.

Damian Rey 2.0
11-23-2021, 10:24 PM
I don’t think so. It’s absolutely make that drive and make a day out of it. It’s California a wrestling hot bed? I have no idea. I’ve never felt that we’ve had hot crowds any time I’ve gone to a wwe show except doesn’t the attitude era

Evil Vito
11-24-2021, 12:07 AM
The furthest west they got in early 2020 was Utah, and that was the same day "shit got real" with COVID for most of us with Hanks, Gobert, etc.

I think the threat of California bringing back restrictions at a moments' notice has kept them away longer than they were planning, but supposedly they do plan on finally getting out there in early 2022.

screech
11-24-2021, 06:52 AM
The only things I like that WWE does are those Docs. Too bad. Was interested in both.

Pretty much the only reason I still had the network was for the documentaries.

At least Ruthless Aggression season two is out (& I already had peacock).

Bad News Gertner
11-24-2021, 09:14 AM
Lol this team was so fucking rotten.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tag team finishers in the 90’s were great because one guy could just be like “…and then I’ll do a stomp”. <a href="https://t.co/lHeucDGDhr">pic.twitter.com/lHeucDGDhr</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1463349226054856705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan
11-24-2021, 11:03 AM
Anyone listening to the new Flair podcast? I just started the latest episode. So far so good. Madden seems pretty structured in the program which is surprising.

#1-norm-fan
11-24-2021, 11:12 AM
Lol this team was so fucking rotten.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tag team finishers in the 90’s were great because one guy could just be like “…and then I’ll do a stomp”. <a href="https://t.co/lHeucDGDhr">pic.twitter.com/lHeucDGDhr</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1463349226054856705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOl Goddammit. I fucking loved Slater and Buck.

drave
11-24-2021, 11:17 AM
I wanna hear John Madden say "BOOM!" every time there's a slam in wrasslin.

#1-norm-fan
11-24-2021, 11:41 AM
I don’t think so. It’s absolutely make that drive and make a day out of it. It’s California a wrestling hot bed? I have no idea. I’ve never felt that we’ve had hot crowds any time I’ve gone to a wwe show except doesn’t the attitude era

Northern and Southern California both seem to have relatively big independent scenes. And when there are major WWE events in LA the crowds tend to be hot by current WWE standards.

Based on that and the fact that AEW seems to do well live around the rest of the country AND The Bucks are from there (plus I think Omega has ties), I can’t imagine LA not being a place AEW would want to go multiple times a year.

Sepholio
11-24-2021, 02:30 PM
Bay Area Wrestling is legit af

Bad News Gertner
11-24-2021, 02:41 PM
LOl Goddammit. I fucking loved Slater and Buck.

I've never been a Dick Slater fan. I enjoy Buck on his own just because of his character, and I'm a Jimmy Golden fan, but the two combined are pretty rough. Especially Slater.

weather vane
11-24-2021, 05:45 PM
Same here. Especially the Vlad one.

Maybe the guy was too weird? I don’t know. Seems off that they said zero chance it sees the light of day.

Bad News Gertner
11-24-2021, 05:56 PM
From all accounts Vlad is a great guy.

Bad News Gertner
11-24-2021, 07:11 PM
Outstanding

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Juvy’s juice must smell really bad to stun Dave Burkhead like that. <a href="https://t.co/cOSFrSie4V">pic.twitter.com/cOSFrSie4V</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1463604957974835210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner
11-24-2021, 09:08 PM
Omg I've found the Holy Grail. I may have to stop posting these after this one.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is absolutely the appropriate reaction to having your head forced into someone’s armpit. <a href="https://t.co/JWda3zBLeB">pic.twitter.com/JWda3zBLeB</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1463565422113009676?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik
11-24-2021, 09:33 PM
From all accounts Vlad is a great guy.

Hopefully they release it someday I wanted to see it

Lock Jaw
11-24-2021, 10:46 PM
Gertner in love with Regal's facials

Bad News Gertner
11-24-2021, 10:55 PM
Boy am I ever

Lock Jaw
11-24-2021, 11:02 PM
Me too

tavaresmatthews
11-25-2021, 07:54 AM
https://imgur.com/bxw8j3w.gifv

Fignuts
11-25-2021, 10:50 AM
lol

Vastardikai
11-25-2021, 03:41 PM
Well played.

tavaresmatthews
11-25-2021, 10:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SH56TYx.jpg

Link to article: https://wrestling-edge.com/kelly-kelly-talks-about-vince-mcmahon-teaching-her-how-to-striptease-dance/

Fignuts
11-25-2021, 10:37 PM
Is it too late to enter tavaresmatthews into KOTF?

Bad News Gertner
11-25-2021, 10:59 PM
A shoe in for Best New Poster in the year's Spammy Awards

screech
11-26-2021, 04:40 AM
Has there been a better start to a posting career?

Bad News Gertner
11-26-2021, 12:43 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This dude tried blocking one of Vader’s punches and paid for it with his life. <a href="https://t.co/jnIbeg8MFf">pic.twitter.com/jnIbeg8MFf</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1464238078579589124?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0
11-26-2021, 02:10 PM
I really wish instead of doing nothing Vader would’ve potatoed that little shit Shawn Michaels when he stomped on him after a botch. Vader wasn’t going anywhere as far as going up the card anyways. Would’ve loved to see how Shawn would’ve reacted to getting stiffed

Gerard
11-26-2021, 05:31 PM
I really wish instead of doing nothing Vader would’ve potatoed that little shit Shawn Michaels when he stomped on him after a botch. Vader wasn’t going anywhere as far as going up the card anyways. Would’ve loved to see how Shawn would’ve reacted to getting stiffed

Probably would have shit himself and ran backstage to hide behind his buddies.

Mr. Nerfect
11-26-2021, 08:36 PM
Vader would have been gone so quick.

slik
11-26-2021, 11:03 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/dVG6dtTH/nxt.jpg

Bad News Gertner
11-27-2021, 12:15 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ed Leslie just deciding to be Brutus Beefcake again in the middle of the Attitude Era just felt so sad. <a href="https://t.co/EawXhSQ226">pic.twitter.com/EawXhSQ226</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1464419852261732353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tavaresmatthews
11-27-2021, 01:45 PM
Link to article: https://itrwrestling.com/news/candice-michelle-on-kissing-vince-mcmahon-everybody-kind-of-went-through-that/

https://imgur.com/dT17ZrD.jpg

Mr. Nerfect
11-27-2021, 05:44 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/dVG6dtTH/nxt.jpg

Is the show actually specifically designed to appeal to younger viewers though? That’s Dave’s take with them using younger talent. I’m sure they would like to magically gain younger viewers and generally increase viewership, but where is this “they’re after that specific demo” thing coming from?

How did viewership do? I know it hasn’t been great, but has it been significantly down from NXT 1.0? If that is holding, or just decreasing slightly, for all we know they consider the show a success?

I haven’t followed NXT 2.0. There was some stuff on the first show I liked (The Creed Brothers, Rex Steiner, Ben Buchanan). But I think there is a better pro-wrestling show featuring developmental talent that could appeal to a wider audience. I’m thinking more along the lines of pre-Network NXT. Some developmental acts with familiar names mixed in. But I’m just saying the “haha, look at that demo that they were after” narrative is possibly a little skewed.

Mr. Nerfect
11-27-2021, 05:45 PM
I actually think acts like Toxic Attraction are designed to appeal to older audiences. They’re basically The Beautiful People, right?

slik
11-27-2021, 09:16 PM
Interesting ring

I wonder if this could ever work for wrestling


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s an early look at tonight’s <a href="https://twitter.com/trillerfight?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@trillerfight</a> Triad Combat triangular ring setup. The event is taking place at Globe Life Field in Arlington, TX (home of the Rangers) and is available on <a href="https://twitter.com/FiteTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FiteTV</a>. <a href="https://t.co/j9SjBKponR">pic.twitter.com/j9SjBKponR</a></p>&mdash; Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1464732283315925001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

fundiddle
11-27-2021, 09:18 PM
Link to article: https://itrwrestling.com/news/candice-michelle-on-kissing-vince-mcmahon-everybody-kind-of-went-through-that/

https://imgur.com/dT17ZrD.jpg
tavares, do you think vince attended any of the playboy shoots the numerous divas did over the years, or just all of them?

slik
11-27-2021, 09:30 PM
Interesting ring

I wonder if this could ever work for wrestling


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s an early look at tonight’s <a href="https://twitter.com/trillerfight?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@trillerfight</a> Triad Combat triangular ring setup. The event is taking place at Globe Life Field in Arlington, TX (home of the Rangers) and is available on <a href="https://twitter.com/FiteTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FiteTV</a>. <a href="https://t.co/j9SjBKponR">pic.twitter.com/j9SjBKponR</a></p>&mdash; Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1464732283315925001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Round 1! FIGHT! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TriadCombat?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TriadCombat</a> <a href="https://t.co/0Qf7BMhAt7">pic.twitter.com/0Qf7BMhAt7</a></p>&mdash; FITE (@FiteTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FiteTV/status/1464782230392389636?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Minus the ropes being in the way I like this camera angle

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scott Sigmon is taunting Albert Tumenov. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TriadCombat?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TriadCombat</a> <a href="https://t.co/XGAVfSpxns">pic.twitter.com/XGAVfSpxns</a></p>&mdash; FITE (@FiteTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FiteTV/status/1464783460946558977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fignuts
11-27-2021, 09:37 PM
Why though?

slik
11-27-2021, 09:39 PM
IDK, might visually freshen things up

I liked the cage Riddle and Tim Thatcher used for a match too, 'The Fight Pit'

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NlweD36HVJY/Xz4BSx3rJyI/AAAAAAABmxo/zlR0rxsbYnUJMGooB68RltazNgPh46yawCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Escape%2Bfrom%2Ba%2BSleeper%2BHold%2Busing%2Bthe%2BCage.gif

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ADyyIEIWR78/Xz4BtpPFFEI/AAAAAAABmyE/C2O2TWgsh94rSxMmA4MzNB2eJdeiySC6gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Rolls%2Bfrom%2Bthe%2BTop%2Bof%2Bthe%2BCage%2Binto%2Ba%2BForearm%2BSmash.gif

Fignuts
11-27-2021, 09:47 PM
That's like putting whipped cream on a hot dog just because "it's different".

Lock Jaw
11-27-2021, 09:56 PM
But our ring has six sides

Vastardikai
11-27-2021, 10:17 PM
Is the show actually specifically designed to appeal to younger viewers though? That’s Dave’s take with them using younger talent. I’m sure they would like to magically gain younger viewers and generally increase viewership, but where is this “they’re after that specific demo” thing coming from?

How did viewership do? I know it hasn’t been great, but has it been significantly down from NXT 1.0? If that is holding, or just decreasing slightly, for all we know they consider the show a success?

I haven’t followed NXT 2.0. There was some stuff on the first show I liked (The Creed Brothers, Rex Steiner, Ben Buchanan). But I think there is a better pro-wrestling show featuring developmental talent that could appeal to a wider audience. I’m thinking more along the lines of pre-Network NXT. Some developmental acts with familiar names mixed in. But I’m just saying the “haha, look at that demo that they were after” narrative is possibly a little skewed.

Meltzer Logic: Bright Colors = KIDS!!!

Seriously, NXT 2.0 is a deliberate step away from having a bunch of guys who's entire identity is "Guy who Wrestles Good" to having a bunch of wrestlers with different and various identities.

XL
11-28-2021, 03:56 AM
I actually think acts like Toxic Attraction are designed to appeal to older audiences. They’re basically The Beautiful People, right?

Hmmmm. I’d say TA was a play for that teenage boy market. They’re 2.0s version of Sable/Torrie/Stacy.

Bad News Gertner
11-28-2021, 10:14 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the boys are firing off warning shots <a href="https://t.co/xjvAMN4x5V">pic.twitter.com/xjvAMN4x5V</a></p>&mdash; ���������� ��█♂️ ������ (@jockonimus) <a href="https://twitter.com/jockonimus/status/1464670767472390156?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan
11-28-2021, 10:46 AM
Tajiri and Mutoh are teaming now? That's awesome.

Mr. Nerfect
11-28-2021, 12:17 PM
Meltzer Logic: Bright Colors = KIDS!!!

Seriously, NXT 2.0 is a deliberate step away from having a bunch of guys who's entire identity is "Guy who Wrestles Good" to having a bunch of wrestlers with different and various identities.

Triple H got his chance to run a boutique product for the Network to get some experience. There’s a difference between that serving a purpose and developmental though. And filling 2 hours on prime time cable. It’s incredible how NXT changing to become more synchronized with the main roster has been spun into Triple H losing power or something. The product has a different function.

Now, whether or not it is achieving what they want it to remains to be seen. Ridge Holland and Von Wagner seem like the first tests of that.

Hmmmm. I’d say TA was a play for that teenage boy market. They’re 2.0s version of Sable/Torrie/Stacy.

Maybe. I think once free internet porn came along, that sort of stuff has more of an appeal to old creepers more than anything.

XL
11-28-2021, 03:27 PM
Well the ratings suggest that’s the case.