"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Tom Guycott]

And speaking of gimmicks/character development and seeing Paige's name there, what's with her? I've read so much about her having this Anti-Diva gimmick on NXT but it's nowhere to be found on the main roster. From what I've seen so far, she has no gimmick. She's nothing. The only thing she has going for her is that she's 21 and from England. Every time she's on TV, we hear Cole saying "The 21 year old from Norwich, England". That's it. There's nothing else to her other than her age and birthplace. She's quite boring and it makes me wonder why she's still Divas Champion when they have other Divas, most with actual characters/gimmicks, doing pretty much nothing, when they could be champion or chasing the title.



That's a problem that seems to persist with most people making the jump to the main roster: their gimmick doesn't come with them. Half the time, they treat NXT as its own entity. At times, this is a good thing... but it is inconsistent. Both of IRS's kids made the jump doing what they were doing to begin with, but then they pull stuff like stripping Paige and Big E Langston* of their respective gimmicks (Anti-Diva and the 5 count) and just make them generic roster filler. If it's working, they should keep it. If it isn't, THEN they should try something else. For example, Emma needs something more to her on the main roster than the dancing and the bubbles, because the smaller, more intimate crowd at NXT "got" the gimmick, while the mass of humanity on the larger stage of WWE doesn't really.

Speaking of generic roster filler: Rusev. Jesus. I'd rather see that broom HHH wanted to wrestle have a hardcore title match against La Parka's chair than keep suffering through this shit. Lana having nice legs, making him a "Russian" Kurt Angle/Iron Shiek/Yokozuna/Samoa Joe/Nikoli Volkoff hybrid, and flashing pics of Putin on the titantron doesn't translate into the need to be eating up so much TV time trying to shoehorn such an over-the-top old school heel (and not ironically either- they're playing it straight) into a world that doesn't want to see it and would only make some sort of sense if they made Swagger turn face from and go back to being an American American American American again. Like Bandit Keith.

[Seth82]

I thought Heidenreich was the biggest disgrace to the LOD name until now.

you put into words what I was thinking.

seeing that pic makes me wanna puke.

[Seth82]

hard to believe he's been gone five years now.

RIP Mitsuharu Misawa

He was imho one of the all time greats. He gave everything he had and that there was to give for the business.

I would hope he winds up in the WWE HOF someday.

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[DAMN iNATOR]

Jura, why must you depress me? What did I ever do to you? :(

He's TPWW's Quagmire, and fills a vital role here...keep up the great work. :y:

P.S. It should also be noted that there is nonsuch thing as too many Kaitlyn pics, especially in bikinis, but anything looks good on her. :naughty:

[Jura]

lol I don't know how Quagmire relates to me or Cool King's post but sure.

[Disturbed316]

Gigaddy

[FourFifty]

Watching Uncensored 96.... A great card with a "Holy Clusterfuck" main event.

[GD]

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[FourFifty]

So a lot of the cuts are because the WWE network isn't making any cash.

If you shared your login info with someone, it's your fault there is no more 3MB.

[FourFifty]

Just finished that cage match from uncensored 96. I feel physically ill.

[Tazz Dan]

That's a problem that seems to persist with most people making the jump to the main roster: their gimmick doesn't come with them. Half the time, they treat NXT as its own entity. At times, this is a good thing... but it is inconsistent. Both of IRS's kids made the jump doing what they were doing to begin with, but then they pull stuff like stripping Paige and Big E Langston* of their respective gimmicks (Anti-Diva and the 5 count) and just make them generic roster filler. If it's working, they should keep it. If it isn't, THEN they should try something else. For example, Emma needs something more to her on the main roster than the dancing and the bubbles, because the smaller, more intimate crowd at NXT "got" the gimmick, while the mass of humanity on the larger stage of WWE doesn't really.

Speaking of generic roster filler: Rusev. Jesus. I'd rather see that broom HHH wanted to wrestle have a hardcore title match against La Parka's chair than keep suffering through this shit. Lana having nice legs, making him a "Russian" Kurt Angle/Iron Shiek/Yokozuna/Samoa Joe/Nikoli Volkoff hybrid, and flashing pics of Putin on the titantron doesn't translate into the need to be eating up so much TV time trying to shoehorn such an over-the-top old school heel (and not ironically either- they're playing it straight) into a world that doesn't want to see it and would only make some sort of sense if they made Swagger turn face from and go back to being an American American American American again. Like Bandit Keith.

Most accurate post I have read for a long time.

[Tazz Dan]

Some Indy wrestler, Jaxson James started following me on twitter. Has anybody heard of him?

[CSL]

last night myself and Adam Cole basically held hands and drunkenly walked onto "the dancefloor" last night for a Limp Bizkit song whilst Kevin Steen sat in the corner looking really impressed with my local pub. Because why not

[ron the dial]

which limp bizkit song?

[CSL]

Nookie I think

[Innovator]

Awesome

[Tazz Dan]

Haha that's awesome!

[Shisen Kopf]

hard to believe he's been gone five years now.

RIP Mitsuharu Misawa

He was imho one of the all time greats. He gave everything he had and that there was to give for the business.

I would hope he winds up in the WWE HOF someday.

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You know who else is dead? http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2012/10/02/jaggers00002.jpg Let us take time to remember the greatest rassler of all time.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I haven't seen Adam Cole in a while. Jesus I barely recognized him.</font>

[loopydate]

you put into words what I was thinking.

seeing that pic makes me wanna puke.

I see what you did there.

[Tom Guycott]

Some Indy wrestler, Jaxson James started following me on twitter. Has anybody heard of him?

Ask us again when somebody showsup on "The Dub" calling themselves "JaxonJamesFan".

And no socks, please. It has to be organic.

[Volare]

"Action Jaxson" Jaxson James?

[Black Widow]

According to The Wrestling Observer, the low attendance figures for TNA's recent Basebrawl stadium events has lead to low morale amongst the talents who worked the events.

There is said to be an air of uncertainty in TNA right now, as so many talents have been let go recently, talents feel The Carter family isn't putting much new money into TNA lately, and since wrestlers use live fan attendance as a way to judge the state of the company, morale has been down to say the least.

TNA's lack of a new TV deal with SpikeTV also has talents nervous, however with several TNA names appearing at the SpikeTV awards show this past week, that's being looked at as a positive sign for TNA and Spike negotiations.

Several TNA stars have reportedly reached out to Ring of Honor and Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling for potential job opportunities, but since so little has been revealed about GFW, that has lead to growing concern amongst talents.This joke of a company just needs to give up.

[Bad News Gertner]

Love Rusev. He's quite impressive in the ring.

Regarding NXT, I made this post a while ago : NXT is a glorified Indy show with the same douchebag fans like TNA's Asylum. The gimmicks don't translate well at all. They HAVE to start taking NXT on the road to get a better gauge of the talent. It's made to fail.

[Vastardikai]

Speaking of generic roster filler: Rusev. Jesus. I'd rather see that broom HHH wanted to wrestle have a hardcore title match against La Parka's chair than keep suffering through this shit. Lana having nice legs, making him a "Russian" Kurt Angle/Iron Shiek/Yokozuna/Samoa Joe/Nikoli Volkoff hybrid, and flashing pics of Putin on the titantron doesn't translate into the need to be eating up so much TV time trying to shoehorn such an over-the-top old school heel (and not ironically either- they're playing it straight) into a world that doesn't want to see it and would only make some sort of sense if they made Swagger turn face from and go back to being an American American American American again. Like Bandit Keith.

All I know is that, IF they do turn Swagger face with this guy and it draws, I BETTER get a cut, as I literally suggested it a month or so ago. :shifty:

[CSL]

This joke of a company just needs to give up.

even some of the talent are like "yeah, it's shit"

Love Rusev. He's quite impressive in the ring.

Regarding NXT, I made this post a while ago : NXT is a glorified Indy show with the same douchebag fans like TNA's Asylum. The gimmicks don't translate well at all. They HAVE to start taking NXT on the road to get a better gauge of the talent. It's made to fail.

dunno, the NXT crowd strike me as "pissed up students having a laugh". That said, I've watched maybe 3 shows ever so dunno

[screech]

The NXT crowd annoys me. I feel like they are worse at the live specials. They spend the whole show chanting.

It's like those post-WM crowds almost, only not funny and every week.

[CSL]

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[GD]

CM Punk got married to AJ Lee. Cool!

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Dirtsheets:

WWE sent a mobile alert a few moments ago announcing that The Usos will defend the WWE Tag Team Titles against Erick Rowan and Luke Harper at the Money in the Bank PPV.

A casting agency caused a stir when they sent out a notice for a Sting body double and an orchestra in Sting face paint, specifically identified as being for WWE. Somehow they didn't think it would get out. Really. Anyway, it's for WWE 2K15, as he's going to be this year's Brock Lesnar/Mike Tyson/Ultimate Warrior guest legend as a pre-order bonus.


Paige and Emma were used at the NXT tapings so the "WWE Universe" could see the "NXT Universe" treating them like big stars. It didn't occur to anyone that they could just book both women the same way they were used on NXT.

They turned Cameron/Ariane heel during Paige's "press conference" segment on the Payback post-game show. The next night, she was a babyface again. Nobody noticed.

Seth Rollins is getting new entrance music, so if you hated what he used on Raw, it's a placeholder and you should stop kvetching. They're being careful to avoid saying he's joined Evolution, as "officially," he hasn't.

Randy Savage seems closer to going into the Hall of Fame than ever, with a new DVD being worked on with a full documentary and participation from Lanny Poffo. The best guess for next year's class right now is The Rock, Savage, Kevin Nash, Victoria or Mickie James for the now-annual women's slot, and Rikishi.
If I had to guess, Rock would more likely get saved for a later year than be in next year's HoF class if Savage does go in. No need to use up two headliner stars in a single year.

[Bad News Gertner]

Watched the ICP Youshoot. Way more entertaining and interesting than it had any right to be.

Actually one of the best KC releases I've seen.

[ron the dial]

ICP WHOOP WHOOP

they are masters of entertainment

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol it's really tremendous. They told a couple Chris Benoit and Buff Bagwell stories that were fucking hilarious.

[parkmania]

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When did Booster Gold give up the superhero gig and start wrestling?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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He's a man.... such a man....a real...a star man!

[Asmo]

"kvetching".
What's that supposed to mean?

[#1-norm-fan]

Watched the ICP Youshoot. Way more entertaining and interesting than it had any right to be.

Actually one of the best KC releases I've seen.

lol. They're actually really fucking good interviews from what I've seen. I'd assume watching them talk about their time in wrestling would be awesome.

[ron the dial]

"kvetching".
What's that supposed to mean?

complaining

[Juan]

I thought Heidenreich was the biggest disgrace to the LOD name until now.

seeing that pic makes me wanna puke.

lol come on. Really???

[FourFifty]

"kvetching".
What's that supposed to mean?

Yiddish for "bitching"

[whiteyford]

Lol it's really tremendous. They told a couple Chris Benoit and Buff Bagwell stories that were fucking hilarious.

It's kinda funny that they've worked for every major promotion in the last 20 years, pretty sure if 'Manias ever held in Detroit they'd be a lock for the HOF.

[whiteyford]

I may be overselling that somewhat.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I may be overselling that somewhat.

Fuck that. WWE doesn't want ICP's lowlife fans attending anything WWE related.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol come on. Really???

Are you surprised that women dressed in skimpy clothing makes Seth wanna puke?

[ron the dial]

Fuck that. WWE doesn't want ICP's lowlife fans attending anything WWE related.
they already do. all of the time. good god, man. you've really amped up the dumb in the last 24 hours.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's kinda funny that they've worked for every major promotion in the last 20 years, pretty sure if 'Manias ever held in Detroit they'd be a lock for the HOF.

They are the only tag team to wrestle in the WWF, WCW, ECW and TNA

[whiteyford]

Haven't they done appearances in ROH/CZW as well? I'm stretching major promotions here I know.

[whiteyford]

They were in XPW as well. I'm ignoring 'major' promotions completely now.

[ron the dial]

they are true wrestling legends and gods

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think it would be delightfully twisted if Bo Dallas got a submission move as one of his signatures, and once he applies the hold he yells at his opponent to NOT give up.</font>

[Rammsteinmad]

That would be pretty cool actually.

Bo Dallas still sucks though.

[Bad News Gertner]

<font color=goldenrod>I think it would be delightfully twisted if Bo Dallas got a submission move as one of his signatures, and once he applies the hold he yells at his opponent to NOT give up.</font>

Lol that idea is brilliant

[screech]

Fuck that. WWE doesn't want ICP's lowlife fans attending anything WWE related.

Lol

[Fignuts]

Wouldn't want ICP fans mixing with the classy, elegant wrestling fan base.

[#1-norm-fan]

If only their fanbase were more classy ICP would be able to take their rightful place in the WWE Hall of Fame.

[loopydate]

Are you surprised that women dressed in skimpy clothing makes Seth wanna puke?

I assumed he was making a Drozdov joke.

[Vastardikai]

I assumed he was making a Drozdov joke.

We should ask Rocco about this.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

wrestling heaven

[Rammsteinmad]

Who's the guy in the middle supposed to be?

[#1-norm-fan]

Brian Pillman

[Emperor Smeat]

Think Brian Pillman.

[#1-norm-fan]

Team Smelly Ball Fan knows its 8 bit wrestlers.

[Cool King]

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[Dark One]

- TNA attempted to drum up excitement for tonight's Slammiversary on social media but came up short. The promotion posted the following to their Twitter account a little before 6 PM ET:

#Slammiversary starts at 8/7c on PPV! Want to know the first match of the night? 500 RTs and we'll tell you! GO!

The tweet has since been deleted. Per PWInsider, they stalled out at in the low two hundreds and at the time of the message's deletion they had 248 retweets.


Amazing.

[Hanso Amore]

you put into words what I was thinking.

seeing that pic makes me wanna puke.

This is why no one takes you serious.

[Hanso Amore]

All of this, and the fact that they "like the look" of somebody like Ryback, and then want him to instantly go from being fed jobbers to jumping to the top of the card in the span of eight weeks (as opposed to climbing up the card gradually) and wondering why people don't buy him as a main event talent, then just giving up on him.

Its like they get bored with ideas quicker than the fans do. They don't let people get behind anyone anymore. Most of the time, their thought process seems to be if the person isn't somehow over instantly, it isn't worth doing.

Revisionist history.

People got behind Ryback jumping to the main event, he got huge pops. Then 500 screw job finishes and then disappearing from the main event, and losing to Henry at Wrestlemania killed alot of his momentum.

Then he started getting good heat as a heel against Cena only to be ultimately misused, buried and forgotten.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/sherly_676">@sherly_676</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle">@HeymanHustle</a> really knows about that. <a href="http://t.co/WbuJqR50zL">pic.twitter.com/WbuJqR50zL</a>&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MyClientBrockLesnarConqueredTheStreak&amp;src=hash">#MyClientBrockLesnarConqueredTheStreak</a></p>&mdash; Paul Heyman (@HeymanHustle) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle/statuses/478386703292321792">June 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

"There are some within the company that have intimated to us that when the WWE second quarter numbers are released, the number of subscribers will actually go down (which to be clear we can't confirm at this time). When this was mentioned on audio yesterday, subscribers asked how it is possible that the numbers could drop given that people made a six-month commitment when they signed up. It's easy to explain. If there is no money on the debit or credit card someone signed up with, when WWE tries to draw payment they will not get it. Eventually, the subscriber in question is cut off, reducing the numbers."
http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2014/6/14/5810632/wwe-network-subscribers-may-have-even-declined-since-wrestlemania-30

Even without the issue of people finding a way around the 6-month commitment, dirtsheets have hinted a few times the Network hasn't grown well or at all since Mania.

[XL]

How much would it cost them to launch outside of the US?

[GD]

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This is the best thing ever.

[Tom Guycott]

Requoted from the beginng for context:

Instead of having a new gimmick debut and "cooling off" on them within a month, Vince should probably just... ya know... watch NXT.

Seriously, just fucking have some writers who specifically take care of the midcard scene. The reason it's been shit for years is because no one is gaining any momentum because they all get pushed for a month, de-pushed, then expected to be taken seriously again for a month, then forgotten and de-pushed again, and so on. It's not that hard to fix. It's just an issue of laziness.

And that's exactly why. If they had actually put effort into keeping midcarders relevant by giving them shit to do to keep people interested instead of seemingly spending 5 minutes a week saying "Okay, this guy's gonna face this guy and this guy's gonna win because we're pushing him this month. Booking done." then there would be a ton of guys ready to move up the card. Instead they've gotta depend on bringing in guys and instantly trying to make them main eventers because the rest of the roster has been made to look too inconsistent to buy into as a star.

All of this, and the fact that they "like the look" of somebody like Ryback, and then want him to instantly go from being fed jobbers to jumping to the top of the card in the span of eight weeks (as opposed to climbing up the card gradually) and wondering why people don't buy him as a main event talent, then just giving up on him.

Its like they get bored with ideas quicker than the fans do. They don't let people get behind anyone anymore. Most of the time, their thought process seems to be if the person isn't somehow over instantly, it isn't worth doing.


Revisionist history.

People got behind Ryback jumping to the main event, he got huge pops. Then 500 screw job finishes and then disappearing from the main event, and losing to Henry at Wrestlemania killed alot of his momentum.

Then he started getting good heat as a heel against Cena only to be ultimately misused, buried and forgotten.

The last 5 words you said there was the entire point.

It's not "revisionist history" that they tried to do too much too soon for Ryback. Yes, he was over, but not "carry the company" over. The heel turn didn't help, but people wanted him because he was the new hot thing. It wasn't going to be Cena vs. Orton for the 800th time, so we'll get on board with just about anything. AS HE WAS, without any character development, he would have fizzled out anyway. There was a reason for the Goldberg chants, and it wasn't just because of the bald look. Squashing countless local nobodies was going to get old, but the mishandling of how he was booked faded his star faster. You don't just become better than people you never faced... and there were a bunch of tiers of the card he was bypassing with that rocket up his ass. It didn't work. And when that happened, it was somehow "his" fault for not being able to connect with fans as opposed to WWE's fault for trying to rush a new marketable superstar.

That's not revisionist history.

Getting huge pops and gaining momentum isn't the same as becoming an iconic, credible threat almost overnight. Lesnar wasn't pushed that fast. Hell, even Goldberg won the US title first during his steak, and that was like six or seven months after he debuted... not six or seven weeks to WHC contention. Even Daniel Bryan's constant snubbing was actually a blessing- they bult a milkable angle in getting screwed out of title shots and made him into a badass workhorse with an unbreakable spirit who can beat anyone on any given night with even odds and needs unfair handicaps and prematch beatdowns to lose. Add to that, at this point, he has history with Kane and (pre Mania) was a world champion, and you have a character... which the WWE puts a premium on. By not wanting to make him one, they seem to have unintentionally MADE HIM ONE!

I say again that I hope they don't make that mistake with Reigns. As tempting as it is to slingshot him to be "the man", and as much as people "say" they want to see this happen, it is too soon. They need to build him up first, and I don't mean the instant, early pomp and circumstance. They're on a nice path, but they need to take their time. They need to build a lot of people up first, over time. They need to better define tiers on the card. They debut new people and seem to have an unrealistic expectation that it's going to be the biggest thing ever- the next "Hulkamainia"- right out of the gate. A lot of people on the roster right now all had promising starts, and then WWE goes nowhere with it.

It's kind of like baking a cake. You stick the batter in the oven at about 350 and let it bake for like 30 minutes... what you CAN'T do is blast the oven to 600 and expect delicious results in 5 minutes, then blame the cake for not looking like it does on the box. [note: cake baking time not 100% accurate]

Back on Ryback, he and Henning* vs Goldust and ? is one of my favorite angles going on right now, because of what it's doing for everyone involved. These mystery partners picked by Cody is doing nothing but furthering the rift between he and his brother, it gives whoever Goldie's partner is some TV/ring time, and RybAxel not only keep rolling with wins over these makeshift teams which :gasp: builds them up as a credible threat tag team that can one day (now sooner than later) go up against the Usos for the titles without looking like some random, thrown together tandem, but them taking credit for breaking up tag teams (hillariously including The Rockers) gives them a nice arrogant dick heel edge. Henning* isn't made to look like a jackass like during his singles run. Ryback isn't pinning people who aren't even on the WWE roster like during his. They're being made to look legit. And all of this is being accomplished by ONE FREAKIN' ANGLE.

They can do things like that for lower card people to push them up the ladder over time. I once wrote a long time ago that Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler- one of my favorite modern matchups- could have been a PPV headline and possibly even a WWEWHC title match by now, and no one would have batted an eye because they would have been established main eventers after a series of angles, builds, and pushes over time. If you tried to make this happen RIGHT NOW by Summer Slam, though, you'd have a tougher time selling that same match as legit. Hell, you have a hard time arguing at this point that it would even belong on a PPV card simply because of how hard they've been jobbing Dolph out and letting Kofi languish doing nothing of note.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback would have been fine if they hadn't jobbed him out after Hell in a Cell. It didn't have anything to do with "too much too soon". He got over for the same reason Goldberg got over. He was the one guy that could be pitted against the cocky, asshole heel and the fans could get behind him and believe the heel is gonna not only lose but get the living shit beat out of him. They could have kept riding that wave as long as they kept that aura. Instead they chose to willingly shit on it by jobbing him out out of nowhere and trying to turn him into a sympathetic face instead. That works for a guy like Daniel Bryan. Not for a fucking monster. It wasn't too much too soon. There was nothing to suggest he would have fizzled out if they had kept doing what they were doing. It worked.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It was too much too soon. It was his FIRST non-squash match.

[#1-norm-fan]

Who gives a shit? He was getting over as fuck. He didn't need to win the title right away. Once he had that CM Punk match though, he should have stayed in the main event/upper card as an unstoppable force.

[voncouch]

http://www.wrestlingtradingcards.com/images/1991_wcw_championship_marketing/101.jpg

I have nowhere else to put this treasure I just found, so I'll leave it here. Not since Krusty visited his relatives in Annapolis, MD or posed for his trading card photo has such a collectible piece of excitement been harnessed for the masses.

[Hanso Amore]

Requoted from the beginng for context:










The last 5 words you said there was the entire point.

It's not "revisionist history" that they tried to do too much too soon for Ryback. Yes, he was over, but not "carry the company" over. The heel turn didn't help, but people wanted him because he was the new hot thing. It wasn't going to be Cena vs. Orton for the 800th time, so we'll get on board with just about anything. AS HE WAS, without any character development, he would have fizzled out anyway. There was a reason for the Goldberg chants, and it wasn't just because of the bald look. Squashing countless local nobodies was going to get old, but the mishandling of how he was booked faded his star faster. You don't just become better than people you never faced... and there were a bunch of tiers of the card he was bypassing with that rocket up his ass. It didn't work. And when that happened, it was somehow "his" fault for not being able to connect with fans as opposed to WWE's fault for trying to rush a new marketable superstar.

That's not revisionist history.

Getting huge pops and gaining momentum isn't the same as becoming an iconic, credible threat almost overnight. Lesnar wasn't pushed that fast. Hell, even Goldberg won the US title first during his steak, and that was like six or seven months after he debuted... not six or seven weeks to WHC contention. Even Daniel Bryan's constant snubbing was actually a blessing- they bult a milkable angle in getting screwed out of title shots and made him into a badass workhorse with an unbreakable spirit who can beat anyone on any given night with even odds and needs unfair handicaps and prematch beatdowns to lose. Add to that, at this point, he has history with Kane and (pre Mania) was a world champion, and you have a character... which the WWE puts a premium on. By not wanting to make him one, they seem to have unintentionally MADE HIM ONE!

I say again that I hope they don't make that mistake with Reigns. As tempting as it is to slingshot him to be "the man", and as much as people "say" they want to see this happen, it is too soon. They need to build him up first, and I don't mean the instant, early pomp and circumstance. They're on a nice path, but they need to take their time. They need to build a lot of people up first, over time. They need to better define tiers on the card. They debut new people and seem to have an unrealistic expectation that it's going to be the biggest thing ever- the next "Hulkamainia"- right out of the gate. A lot of people on the roster right now all had promising starts, and then WWE goes nowhere with it.

It's kind of like baking a cake. You stick the batter in the oven at about 350 and let it bake for like 30 minutes... what you CAN'T do is blast the oven to 600 and expect delicious results in 5 minutes, then blame the cake for not looking like it does on the box. [note: cake baking time not 100% accurate]

Back on Ryback, he and Henning* vs Goldust and ? is one of my favorite angles going on right now, because of what it's doing for everyone involved. These mystery partners picked by Cody is doing nothing but furthering the rift between he and his brother, it gives whoever Goldie's partner is some TV/ring time, and RybAxel not only keep rolling with wins over these makeshift teams which :gasp: builds them up as a credible threat tag team that can one day (now sooner than later) go up against the Usos for the titles without looking like some random, thrown together tandem, but them taking credit for breaking up tag teams (hillariously including The Rockers) gives them a nice arrogant dick heel edge. Henning* isn't made to look like a jackass like during his singles run. Ryback isn't pinning people who aren't even on the WWE roster like during his. They're being made to look legit. And all of this is being accomplished by ONE FREAKIN' ANGLE.

They can do things like that for lower card people to push them up the ladder over time. I once wrote a long time ago that Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler- one of my favorite modern matchups- could have been a PPV headline and possibly even a WWEWHC title match by now, and no one would have batted an eye because they would have been established main eventers after a series of angles, builds, and pushes over time. If you tried to make this happen RIGHT NOW by Summer Slam, though, you'd have a tougher time selling that same match as legit. Hell, you have a hard time arguing at this point that it would even belong on a PPV card simply because of how hard they've been jobbing Dolph out and letting Kofi languish doing nothing of note.


LOL of course its revisionist history.

You dont even have your time right.

6-7 weeks? Ryback debuted in April and challenged punk in like October, he wasnt new off the street.

Goldberg had NO feuds before winning the world title. He was squashing Jerry Flynn on a weekly basis when he was the US champ, and leading into his world title win.

[Seth82]

This is why no one takes you serious.

it's called a joke.

thought you mighta got that from the "Puke" reference.

[XL]

Kinda ridiculous that they made the turn with Rollins and two weeks later they're still working out what he should wear in the ring and what his music should be.

[Emperor Smeat]

That's been Creative in a nutshell for a long time now. Hard to have any real direction between the constant rewrites and mostly short term thinking the WWE has.

[Lock Jaw]

"Screw it, we cant think of what he should wear, or come up with any music.... let's just put him back with The Shield"

[Droford]

Rollins new theme should start out
Romero Oscar Lima Lima India November Sierra...Seth Rollins..

[FourFifty]

"Screw it, we cant think of what he should wear, or come up with any music.... let's just put him back with The Shield"
Recycle a theme. They just let go of a lot of people, so they have music to recycle.

[Droford]

I wonder how many would notice if they used one of McIntyre's old themes.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dirtsheets:

Last week, WWE released 11 people (Brodus Clay, Drew McIntyre, Jinder Mahal, Evan Bourne and others) in an effort to reduce company spending. Now, we can confirm that NXT is the next target of these cost cutting measures.

A well-placed source at NXT has confirmed to us that NXT’s budget has already been cut in terms of production and post-production. The talent roster is about to be evaluated, with a number of cuts set to take place in the next month.

WWE is “staggering” the widespread budget cuts so the company appears to be fiscally responsible to Wall Street and doesn’t set off a widespread panic internally.

Acording to a source within WWE, the company is looking to cut approximately $20 million from its budget this year.

This would explain the round of talent cuts made last week, in addition to other production elements which have noticeably been scrapped.

For example, Fandango's golden curtain entrance has been cut, and the scissor lift is no longer being used for Bad News Barrett. The truck WWE used to transport those entrances has reportedly been taken off the road, which is a $250,000 a year savings.

Even though many fans want Dolph Ziggler to get a shot at the main event, one of the reasons WWE won't push him is because they believe he is susceptible to injuries. Ziggler, like Christian, is said to have a history of injuries, especially when it comes to concussions. WWE feels they cant trust him as a top talent if he has to take time off to recover. The term "snakebit" has been used when it comes to certain talents and injuries, and Ziggler is one those talents.

The Vince McMahon parody Twitter account @CrankyVince has been deleted. It leaked sensitive information in the past and WWE officials thought that it was run by someone high in the company. In the past there was a rumor that it was JBL who was running the account, suggested by MSL on MLW Radio.

[Poit]

OK, seriously, why is Seth Rollins still wearing a vest?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqRU2I5CcAAxfaa.jpg

[ron the dial]

we just need all 3 of those guys out of vests

[Seth82]

OK, seriously, why is Seth Rollins still wearing a vest?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqRU2I5CcAAxfaa.jpg

damn he is looking real good.

we just need all 3 of those guys out of vests

Agreed!

Him and Dean both are super hot without the vests.

I can imagine Reigns is too.

[Poit]

The Shield got hot.

[voncouch]

OK, seriously, why is Seth Rollins still wearing a vest?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqRU2I5CcAAxfaa.jpg

This guy needs to do a Jesus gimmick. Now.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/244fe09004d668515028978cc4c0fae6/tumblr_n7akuvdaYZ1srbyoyo1_400.gif

[Droford]

MVP dust

[Dark One]

The red contacts really bring it together.

And by bring it together I mean creep me the fuck out.

[Poit]

http://i.imgur.com/9NR1f7m.jpg

[Fignuts]

Darth Stardust

[GD]

OK, seriously, why is Seth Rollins still wearing a vest?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqRU2I5CcAAxfaa.jpg

Crossfit

[Cool King]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/nsuXcZW5BnQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Randomly found this.

I had no idea these guys appeared on Surprise Surprise.

[Cool King]

The WWE's YouTube account uploaded this yesterday.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/t_eoh6vpxnU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Cool King]

It's a pretty cool video, though it does make me miss three things.

1) "Across The Nation" being Raw's theme
2) That period of Raw
3) Raw actually having an opening

[Innovator]

I can imagine Reigns is too.

I think the reason they've held off on the Reigns top reveal is that they still want Cena to be the top face

[slik]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10416588_10152297148404888_6638900969891661321_n.png

[Shadrick]

I think the reason they've held off on the Reigns top reveal is that they still want Cena to be the top face

they revealed it at payback didnt they?

[road doggy dogg]

anyone got a good sample of the Stardust theme?

[Innovator]

they revealed it at payback didnt they?

He put it back on after the match, once it hits RAW, it's over

[Innovator]

I really want Rollins's new gimmick to be "crossfit enthusiast"

[XL]

Starting Crossfit tomorrow.

[Shadrick]

I love Crossfit. I do it twice a week.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dirtsheets:

2K Sports is filming commercials for Sting's inclusion in the WWE 2K15 video game in Los Angeles this week. 2K reportedly filmed motion capture for all of Sting's signature moves several months back.

On a related note, there has been talk within WWE of inducting Sting into the Hall of Fame next year since it will be in his home state of California.

While Vickie stayed a little longer than was previously reported (she was originally reported to be leaving around Wrestlemania 30), she's still leaving for a career as a medical administrator. Last night's skits with Vickie and The Authority are leading up to Guerrero being written off TV.

There was a negative reaction, both backstage and publicly, to last night's skit, in which Stephanie McMahon vomited on Vickie. Not only was the skit the usual Vince McMahon gross-out comedy, but there were several people who thought it was in bad taste. Vickie's daughter Shaul took time off from WWE due to problems with an eating disorder.

Last night WWE and Paul Heyman himself revealed the cover artwork for the the hotly anticipated DVD and Blu-ray, “Ladies and Gentlemen, My Name is Paul Heyman”.

The new DVD and Blu-ray, rated TV-14 and featuring a 2 hour documentary (plus more than 40 classic promos)

https://wwedvdnews.s3.amazonaws.com/covers/2014/paul-heyman/heymanart2.jpg


For those interested, all the content for the upcoming OMG! 2: Top 50 Incidents in WCW History dvd was recently revealed: http://www.wrestlingdvdnews.com/full-content-wwe-omg-top-50-incidents-wcw-history-dvd/67945/

[Cool King]

http://oi60.tinypic.com/our5f7.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1402986853603.gif

[Seth82]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/JohnnyDA/duststar_zps8fd1d92d.gif

[ron the dial]

i'm seriously having a hard time processing how much i love stardust with so little to work with. it just puts a huge smile on my face.

[slik]

StarDust is the best!

http://oi62.tinypic.com/30shoc3.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

I hope he eventually forms a tag team with Dolph Ziggler.

[Dark One]

I'd say it's a testament to how good Cody Rhodes is that he managed to take me from "I don't want to live on this planet any more" the instant he came out to "This is glorious" by the end of the match. He totally transformed.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah I dunno what it is, it's like super campy and should be AWFUL but I'm really intrigued by StarDust right now...

I mean hell if all you turd rats can go nuts over Bo Dallas then I think StarDust can use a few backers

[Seth82]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10404064_805864816090640_7282120844549552512_n.jpg

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

TNA polling fans to bring back 6 sided ring. They can't even film 6 sides of an arena.

[Bad News Gertner]

That's because Arenas are only 4 sides

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They're full of excuses.

[Vastardikai]

Just want to point out that John Cena was out 5 months when he had neck surgery. And that was a SUPERHUMAN recovery. Why are people trying to rush Daniel Bryan back into the ring?

[Emperor Smeat]

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1402985391846.gif

[#1-norm-fan]

Cody Rhodes is awesome when he actually has a gimmick instead of just being plain old CAWdy. I'm looking forward to Stardust.

[GD]

http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1402985391846.gif

Shades of the old classic rivalry.

[Lock Jaw]

Was about to post "What are you talking about", but then I remembered...

Glad that never took off

[Seth82]

http://i.imgur.com/e4IRN2J.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

That's awesome.

[#1-norm-fan]

I see 4 Undertakers and 4 Shawn Michaels in that picture.

[GD]

http://oi60.tinypic.com/our5f7.jpg

I would love to see the video.

[Rammsteinmad]

Lol at Sid Vicious in that pic. :(

[GD]

Is Krispin Wah in the pic?

[Droford]

Nacho Libre being in there is amusing

[Droford]

If you look at the high res version, they managed to make Stacy Kiebler look like crack whore Sunny.

My favorite inclusion is probably Andy Kaufman though..

[Jura]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/GB6gT08m630?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Jura]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/fafUZ1WXqYE?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Jura]

The Glamorous One

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

LayCool was fucking awesome.

[Cool King]

TNA polling fans to bring back 6 sided ring. They can't even film 6 sides of an arena.

Thays because Arenas are only 4 sides

lol

http://i.imgur.com/e4IRN2J.jpg

Pretty cool picture.

I think it could have been made by a British guy, as there's a good few British wresters in the image that haven't really had major success outside of the UK.

I see Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks, Grado, Kendo Nagasaki with another Big Daddy and also there's WrestleTalk TV, which by the way, is an absolutely abysmal show.

[Cool King]

Also, why does it look like The Dynamite Kid is having his way with Matilda?

[Cool King]

Would love it if this guy was hidden somewhere in the image too.

http://cdn04.devote.se/gallery/big/20130416/fd56289a2b4c272885ed23a4acdd37b1.jpg

[slik]

http://www.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/wwechvariant.jpg

[slik]

http://www.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/wwechposters.jpg

[slik]

http://oi61.tinypic.com/b9jedw.jpg

[DaveBrawl]

Gonna have to take that off my Netflix list now as I just can't enjoy it anymore.

[Droford]

http://www.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/wwechvariant.jpg

So Del Rio is Mr Fantastic and HHH is the Human Torch ?

[Emperor Smeat]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/3120442bc209a2948eba1530a8c38a9e/tumblr_n7cju5s3xM1qzi0wko1_1280.png

[VSG]

lol that wasn't half bad

[Emperor Smeat]

WZ has learned from those inside WWE that another big change has been made as a result of recent budget cuts.

The company has done away with the tour busses they would provide for production crew members, backstage hands and others.

In the past, WWE would supply busses and fill them with crew members to transport them from television taping to television taping. This was an expense the company paid for to comfortably transport the enormous amount of people making all of the TV content possible each week.

Now the busses are gone, and the crew is being told they will have to drive from city to city for television tapings.

[Lock Jaw]

Damn. Feel for the crew... Shouldn't cut anything from them.

[Savio]

lol at Waldo being in that picture.

[Savio]

Would love it if this guy was hidden somewhere in the image too.

http://cdn04.devote.se/gallery/big/20130416/fd56289a2b4c272885ed23a4acdd37b1.jpg
he is

[slik]

Kind of digging this

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/UYxilEKKrwo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Gonna have to take that off my Netflix list now as I just can't enjoy it anymore.

You can if you just BO-lieve!

[drave]

What is the deal with Bo Dallas anyway? Is his gimmick supposed to be that damn cheesy? Honestly find myself having a piss break when he is on. I can get behind gimmicks that are somewhat cheesy, but his is to the point where I literally don't want to watch.

Don't get it.

[screech]

Bo Dallas is awful

[Hanso Amore]

What is the deal with Bo Dallas anyway? Is his gimmick supposed to be that damn cheesy? Honestly find myself having a piss break when he is on. I can get behind gimmicks that are somewhat cheesy, but his is to the point where I literally don't want to watch.

Don't get it.

Its on purpose.

Hes modern day simon dean

[screech]

Bo Dallas is awful

To clarify, I actually think the character is a neat idea. It's just him I can't stand.

[Lock Jaw]

Its on purpose.

Hes modern day simon dean

Except Simon Dean wasn't in the "so bad he's good" catagory, he was in the "this guy is gold doing this" category.

[CSL]

Starting Crossfit tomorrow.

I wouldn't bother, it's a fad and one that teaches bad habits and could do you some damage as well

[Rammsteinmad]

Bo Dallas sucks. In all his matches so far, his opponents looked better than he did.

[Vastardikai]

Like I mentioned a few pages ago: He's a modern day Sam Houston.

In other words, decent talent in the ring, but will never reach the heights of his much more charismatic brother.

[The Naitch]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/c2PSX-GlYz0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[drave]

I never even get to the point to watch his matches, literally change it or go do something else. That is how bad it comes across for me.

[Rammsteinmad]

HELP NEEDED

So me and some mates are working on a wrestling-based sitcom, and I'm just throwing together a brief storyboard for a scene. I need a picture of something that we've all seen plenty of times, but right now I can't find one anywhere and have no idea where I've seen similar pics.

I need a pic of a wrestler going through the curtain out into the arena, but where the angle is behind them, so you see them step out through the curtain, and you'll see a glimpse of the thousands of fans, the glitz and glamour, the stage etc, but from the perspective of just behind the curtain.

I'm sure I've seen examples of this with Steve Austin, The Rock, John Cena etc, but right now I can't find any of the bloody things.

Help would be much appreciated. :wave:

[Heisenberg]

I'm on it

[Innovator]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxdf06_the-mania-of-wrestlemania_sport

19:28 for Austin walking through

[Heisenberg]

crap, wish I was home, I think there was a WMXXX special where The Rock, SCSA and Hogan were bs'ing backstage before their joint promo and they showed The Rock peeking out the curtain and it sounds like what you need, can't pull it up here at work otherwise I'd screenshot that for ya

[Rammsteinmad]

Perfect! Yeah that's the one I was originally thinking of. Forgot it was that backstage clip between the three. Cheers guys.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE.com's newest list involves matches that changed a certain wrestler's career on the current roster. Along with why it was a big deal to that wrestler.


Cody Rhodes - Cody Rhodes vs. John Morrison: SmackDown, April 30, 2010
John Cena - John Cena vs. Kurt Angle: SmackDown, June 27, 2002
Daniel Bryan - Daniel Bryan vs. Nigel McGuinness — ROH Title Unification Match: Unified, Aug. 12, 2006
Wade Barrett - Bad News Barrett vs. Justin Gabriel vs. David Otunga: WWE NXT, June 1, 2010
Dolph Ziggler - Big E vs. Jack Swagger: SmackDown, May 10, 2013 (the concussion match)
Seth Rollins - Seth Rollins vs. Nigel McGuinness — ROH World Championship Match: Take No Prisoners 2008
Rob Van Dam - Rob Van Dam vs. Dan Kroffat — AJPW World Junior Heavyweight Championship Match: Super Power Series 1995 — Tag 15; Rob Van Dam vs. Bam Bam Bigelow — ECW World Television Championship: April 4, 1998
Goldust - Dustin Rhodes & Ricky Steamboat vs. The Enforcers — WCW Tag Team Championship: Clash of the Champions XVII, Nov. 19, 1991; Goldust vs. Savio Vega — Intercontinental Championship Match: Madison Square Garden Live Event, Jan. 26, 1996
Jack Swagger - Jack Swagger vs. Tyson Kidd — Lumberjack Match: FCW, Nov. 13, 2007; Jack Swagger vs. Christian — ECW Championship Match: Backlash 2009
Kofi Kingston - Kofi Kingston vs. Carlito — United States Championship Match: Raw, Aug. 9, 2009


http://www.wwe.com/inside/matches-that-changed-their-lives

[ron the dial]

that bryan danielson/nigel mcguinness match is fantastic. glad it got some love there.

[ron the dial]

goddamn i wish nigel would have made it to the wwe. he was sooooo good.

[Cool King]

Curt Hawkins is selling a few items on Ebay, from his time in the WWE.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/betterthanyou31/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

Some items have taken my fancy, but as you would expect, the prices for some of them are a bit much.

[Savio]

Big E vs. Jack Swagger: SmackDown, May 10, 2013

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/standard_list/public/t25/image/2014/06/MatchThatChangedMyLife/SD_716_Photo_039.jpg
“The match that changed my life was a match on a SmackDown leading up to my first World Heavyweight Title defense on a pay-per-view. During a match between Big E and Swagger, Alberto Del Rio introduced a ladder and slid it into the middle of the ring. We both looked at each other and went for the ladder. I, being the much better athlete, was much quicker and got there faster. Unfortunately, Jack Swagger kicked me in the head (http://www.wwe.com/videos/big-e-langston-vs-jack-swagger-smackdown-may-10-2013-26114442) as I was trying to pick up the ladder. I don’t remember anything after that.

“From that point forward, I was diagnosed with a concussion and did not defend my title. At the next pay-per-view where I was able to compete, I lost my one and only defense to Alberto Del Rio at WWE Payback in Chicago.” — DOLPH ZIGGLER
:'(

[Droford]

HELP NEEDED

So me and some mates are working on a wrestling-based sitcom, and I'm just throwing together a brief storyboard for a scene. I need a picture of something that we've all seen plenty of times, but right now I can't find one anywhere and have no idea where I've seen similar pics.

I need a pic of a wrestler going through the curtain out into the arena, but where the angle is behind them, so you see them step out through the curtain, and you'll see a glimpse of the thousands of fans, the glitz and glamour, the stage etc, but from the perspective of just behind the curtain.

I'm sure I've seen examples of this with Steve Austin, The Rock, John Cena etc, but right now I can't find any of the bloody things.

Help would be much appreciated. :wave:

This is what I found
http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/standard_list/public/list/intro/2012/11/20121102_Intro_642.jpg

I read further down and see you got it already..oh well

[Cool King]

Looks like Seth Rollins' CAW theme is here to stay.

It's been released on iTunes.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/tvR8OF5EkM8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It's nothing amazing. It's something like forty seconds of music, looped about twenty times.

[Emperor Smeat]

Dirtsheets:

Big Show is set to take some time off as a regular television character for a while. He is currently filming the WWE Studios film "Vendetta." Since he was earmarked for it, the company chose not to use him much as of late, as to not get him involved in any key story lines that they couldn't fully pay off.

We noted before that WWE will not be holding a SummerSlam Axxess event this year. Fans who purchased the SummerSlam travel packages a while back will receive a pre-PPV VIP event as well as breakfast with WWE talents in place of the canceled Axxess event.

As things stand right now, WWE is running with the mindset that Daniel Bryan will not be ready in time for their Battleground pay-per-view, which takes place on July 20th in Tampa, Florida. The current working plan is for Bryan to return at SummerSlam in one of the main events, although it's unlikely that he'll be working against Brock Lesnar in the title match on the show, which was originally the plan. In fact, WWE isn't even sure Bryan will be available in time for SummerSlam. They do, however, expect him back in time for the Night Of Champions pay-per-view, which takes place on September 21st in Nashville, Tennessee. It is believed that Bryan will work a stipulation match with Kane upon his return, as from a story line standpoint, he's the guy who put Bryan on the shelf.

WWE's website points out that Triple H hasn't revealed who else will be in the second Money In the Bank ladder match but intimated in his recent Michael Cole interview that the other participants will not necessarily need to qualify for a spot. The Wrestling Observer reports that the match should be finalized on Monday's RAW from Washington, DC. The match wasn't announced on Monday's RAW because they had the battle royal and apparently a lot of the battle royal participants are in the ladder match. Dean Ambrose is expected to be in the match as well.

As noted, Vince McMahon recently cut RAW head writer Jay Gibson. This release was not believed to have been budgetary like the other releases. Even though WWE cut their head writer, it's not as significant as it sounds and there likely won't be a major change in TV direction. The Wrestling Observer noted that Gibson had been with WWE for about 5 months and basically organized writers to work on different angles and different Superstars, as opposed to actually writing himself. It was said that Gibson had very little knowledge of the WWE product and that was made apparent when he was asked his opinion on some things.

Regarding Aksana's WWE departure, The Wrestling Observer reports that she had been a favorite of Kevin Dunn's, but no longer was and didn't have much support backstage. With more Divas being called up from NXT soon, most notably Charlotte and Sasha Banks, they made the decision to cut her. It's said that Rosa Mendes was saved when Total Divas producers wanted her on the show.

It’s been reported how Vince McMahon has been down on some of the newer WWE characters, including WWE Divas Champion Paige. Coming out of this week’s RAW, it was said that Vince is growing wary of Paige and continues to be losing interest in someone he was high on at one point, at least. It’s said there was a similar situation with Emma.

Brian Myers, 29, trained with the current Zack Ryder after being trained together by Mikey Whipwreck. They were signed together in early 2006 as The Majors Brothers, with Myers and Brian and Ryder as Brett. They were brought up in 2007 as The Major Brothers, dropping the s, as part of a group headed by Edge as the Edge Heads. They were doing well until one day at a meeting, Vince McMahon found out that they weren’t brothers, and, as crazy as this sounds, said that if they weren’t brothers, why are we pretending they are. So they stopped being brothers and became Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder.

To start off with, the average salary of a WWE production/backstage crew member is anywhere between $40,000 and $75,000 a year. (Obviously this can change on depending on the contract and position and individual.) The crew member will spend around 300 days a year out on the road touring from city to city working on the TV shows, house shows, and PPV's as well as anything else in between. (This does not include the current iteration of NXT, as that is an entirely different production) ...

Up until now, the WWE has paid for all travel expenses for the crew, including providing buses and airfare as well as hotel accommodations when needed. Now, due to budget cuts, these travel expenses have been removed and the crew is now responsible for their own travel.

This is a major problem for 2 major reasons.

The amount of traveling done by WWE is massive. If your paying your employee to travel all over the country nearly everyday, but now are expecting them to pay for that travel, it's going to cost the employee a very large sum of money, effectively it could cut thir yearly salary in half just on traveling alone, making working for the company seemingly pointless financially.

The physical and mental toll that touring has on someone is exhausting. The normal day to day workload of a WWE crew member is intense and physical, causing very long days and nights. Yes, wrestlers normally carpool or drive themselves to the show, but at tapings and raw there not expected to be there until 1pm on a showday. The crew is there 8am. Most nights the load out of the show won't finish until 3am, sometimes later. If your being expected to work this schedule AND drive and take care of your own travel expenses year round, your going to be in a very unhealthy and potentially dangerous situation and work enviorment.

WWE likely going to face some serious problems with their production crew after the latest rounds of budget cuts. According to this person, WWE is likely going to face a mass exodus, a huge strike, or both occurring in the near future as a result.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/28iq5s/the_wwe_production_crew_issue_why_its_important

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2013/09/Nitro_08241998_0130.jpg

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty much any Mark Henry entrance

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[Droford]

I can't imagine making even the high end $75k and having enough money to cover travel expenses for 300 days a year. But I do imagine WWE is going to save some serious money not paying for that any more. They should either give them a raise or split the costs.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So the people who don't wrestle are letting people who don't wrestle decide what I have to wrestle in? Great idea. My body, my vote. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%234sides&amp;src=hash">#4sides</a></p>&mdash; Austin Healy Aries (@AustinAries) <a href="https://twitter.com/AustinAries/statuses/479277888437755905">June 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

Voted for #4sides myself....

[Droford]

Vaudevillians is probably the greatest entrance in wrestling history. Too bad that's not all they do.

[Droford]

I'm not too sure what vaudeville has to do with Broadway though.

[Droford]

http://www.wwe.com/f/video/thumb/2014/06/sg-simon_gotch_vlog_061914.jpg

Looks like Geraldo

[mike adamle]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this?

[Emperor Smeat]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luww1hu2Gn1qimek4o1_400.jpg

[Dark One]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdc946lFZN1qfxhgj.gif

[Savio]

eh not to bad

[Tom Guycott]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/244fe09004d668515028978cc4c0fae6/tumblr_n7akuvdaYZ1srbyoyo1_400.gif

I know it's been days, but I never got the chance to post this like I wanted to until now...

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/sbentley/myblog/a_winner_is_you_490.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this?

Good idea I say.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this?

He's a bathturd.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://www.wwe.com/f/video/thumb/2014/06/sg-simon_gotch_vlog_061914.jpg

Looks like Geraldo

Luigi.

[GD]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this?


http://m.impactwrestling.com/media/com_fpss/cache/1411_457eb5238cd7f28655abc78f62a70278_m.jpg?t=1403247858

[James Steele]

It's amazing what 1 year in the semi-main event of WWE can do for your existence. I can't wait to see Brodus Clay feud for the TNA Championship at Lockdown 2015.

[#1-norm-fan]

As long as he's got MVP as a mouthpiece, he'll be a great heel champion for TNA. I just wish they had a great babyface to take the title from him eventually.

[Lock Jaw]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this?

I'm thinking that I picked the wrong week to try to watch TNA again...

[FourFifty]

So. TNA everybody....
Black Lesnar beat that cheap watered down photocopy of Daniel Bryan.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37004130.jpg

[FourFifty]

So can we stop using the spoiler deal and say "No one gives a shit"?

[ron the dial]

i like seth rollins theme. it fits the kind of music that i know he listens to. it is one that could use vocals, however.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Wish I had one! “<a href="https://twitter.com/Leo_LondonPCW">@Leo_LondonPCW</a>: Having Winnipeg's favourite wrestler favourite pizza! <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho">@IAmJericho</a> <a href="http://t.co/7oszHAZ93r">pic.twitter.com/7oszHAZ93r</a>”</p>&mdash; Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/statuses/479862858948153344">June 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[GD]

Edge wins the Heavyweight Championship for the tenth time and the camera pans over an "Epic Fail" sign (2:26). Good stuff.

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[Lock Jaw]

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[GD]

I want to marry Rene. Dean, I am coming!

[Lock Jaw]

Meanwhile, Bayley

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/10475130_764630036892218_665584170_n.jpg

[GD]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/1e3848beeb88415e6f0783523f60f836/tumblr_n7cdpow9Td1srbyoyo1_500.png

snu snu :)

[Lock Jaw]

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[GD]

Stop harassing me, Lock Jaw :(

[Cool King]

So around two days ago, the WWE uploaded a video of Barrett talking about the World Cup, but when he spoke about England, they showed the British flag.

I thought I would just leave a comment pointing out that they used the wrong flag, and that it should be the English flag and not the British flag, and around five minutes after I posted the comment, the video disappeared. It's now appeared again, but with the flag changed to the English flag.

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[Cool King]

Maybe the WWE does listen to it's fans.

But only over little things such as flags.

[Black Widow]

Bobby Lashley is the new TNA Champion. What are your thoughts on this? I'll give them some credit atleast they jumped ahead of wwe this time.

[Savio]

It's amazing what 1 year in the semi-main event of WWE can do for your existence. I can't wait to see Brodus Clay feud for the TNA Championship at Lockdown 2015.
He was kinda a big main eventer when he left.

[Hanso Amore]

Not really. He was more of a jack swagger main venter.

[Hanso Amore]

And that was like 5 years ago...

I don't get it. Sure he has a good look that new fans would dig, but his back history really does nothing for the company in terms of draw.

[Cool King]

Just found out that Tiffany used to date Alfonso Ribeiro before she married Drew McIntyre.

Crazy.

[Cool King]

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https://i.imgur.com/gw6itmy.gif

[Droford]

I saw the Kurt/Cena rap battle from smack down way back and Kurt hugged Cena and went "you never majored huganomics...east side!"

http://mimg.ugo.com/200808/29096/cuts/kurt-angle-rap-battle_288x288.jpg

Thinking bayley should consider "huganomics"

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

http://www.keyposters.com/postersimages/eugensandowgermanbornstrongmanwasflorenzziegfeldsfirstmajorv.jpg

If they researched this for more than 30 seconds I can see where Sandow is ending up

[Droford]

http://pastreunited.com/resources/mcintyre-and-heath-s-comedians-the-epitome-of-vaudeville.jpg
Or if they hadn't canned Drew...

[Jura]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/2r57t49.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Recent Jericho podcast episode had Drew McIntyre as his guest. One of the most interesting thing from it was 3MB had the chance to become actual groupies with their gimmick.

3MB was actually supposed to split on the episode of RAW last year where Mark Henry faked his retirement. A few hours before the show started, they were told that they were going to face Chris Jericho. The stipulations? If Jericho won, 3MB would have to break up. And if 3MB won, Jericho would have to let them tour with Fozzy. The match/idea was nixed and Jericho just ended up wrestling and beating Heath Slater instead.

[Evil Vito]

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<font color=goldenrod>This would be fucking amazing.</font>

[Tom Guycott]

If the space time colliape would allow such a thing to happen without ending the universe or unleashing the Aeon Worm, I would buy whatever PPV that match happened in off the strength of that vid alone. Whoever edited that should be proud.

[slik]

Evan (Re)Bourne

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/findevan">@findevan</a> is 'reborn' into the sensational jaw-dropping MATT SYDAL. This wrestler is definitely making heads turn!!!! <a href="http://t.co/jyFL33XtFJ">pic.twitter.com/jyFL33XtFJ</a></p>&mdash; Darcy Unlimited (@darcyunlimited) <a href="https://twitter.com/darcyunlimited/statuses/479667786902298625">June 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Lock Jaw]

Did he just get sent back in time?

[Emperor Smeat]

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[ron the dial]

heath slater is so awful

[Juan]

heath slater is so awful

Agreed!

[Jura]

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[Lock Jaw]

JBL & Cole Show probably saved Heath Slater's job

[Tom Guycott]

So, for clarification sake: is The JBL & Cole show now what NXT had become in that area post pseudo "Tough Enough" contest and pre-developmental brand, minus Johnny Curtis with cloroform?

And Heath Slater isn't exactly "awful"... he has loads of charisma and charm hidden underneath that horrendously cartoony drawl.

And I still believe this Fox/Dust thing should translate into actual WWE continuity. I legit LOL'd at Big E's "fuck this noise" look after seeing his suggestion fail. "Can you break these?"

[Lock Jaw]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/4f6de046ff2fa98d39a4cfcab8388132/tumblr_n7e5kicatU1qgko6zo1_500.jpg

New Shield member confirmed?!

[Innovator]

Sorry to the 3 of you who worship her, but Kaitlyn is married now

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The dude Kaitlyn married is from my hometown and went to my high school. I'm not from a big city or anything so it caught me off guard to read that. Sounds like he runs a bodybuilding business in Florida though and that's probably how they met.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also AJ Lee is pregnant.</font>

[Black Widow]

I hope AJ can handle the baby crying all the time...oh yeah and then there's also the one she'll give birth too

[Shadrick]

I hope AJ can handle the baby crying all the time...oh yeah and then there's also the one she'll give birth too

tell you what, your heart was there, so we'll give you another shot at this one

[Bad News Gertner]

Heath Slater is the greatest and I'll stab you all in the neck!

[Cool King]

Sorry to the 3 of you who worship her, but Kaitlyn is married now

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[Cool King]

Recent Jericho podcast episode had Drew McIntyre as his guest. One of the most interesting thing from it was 3MB had the chance to become actual groupies with their gimmick.

I listened to that podcast and it was pretty interesting. Drew (the man, not the character) reminded me a lot of myself, just the way he spoke for example, and that he seemed to be a bit reserved/shy sometimes. Jericho really kept trying to pull information out of him but Drew would find ways to avoid giving him clear answers. Though Jericho did manage to get it out of Drew that he would like to face AJ Styles one day and also that he would love to wrestle in Japan. I think Drew would do great in Japan.

Drew had a lot of ideas for 3MB but according to him, they always got shot down. One I was surprised at that got shot down, was that Adam Jones from Tool, offered to appear in vignettes with 3MB and teach them how to play a simple piece on guitar, and would allow them to appear at their gigs and so on, all for free. But Vince or Dunn or whoever, said no. Drew kept saying that since 3MB's formation, they were pretty much dead in the water. It made me think why would Vince say so to this stuff. :-\

Also, Drew said that right before 3MB was formed, he had a match with Jinder on Superstars where he was the face, as Vince wanted to see how he would do as a face. That could have been interesting is that took off, but then we wouldn't have had 3MB.

Though I do think it's cool that when asked what his most memorable/special moment with the WWE was, he said it was when he was at a house show in Glasgow and he was given the mic and was able to thank the fans and also his parents who were in attendance. He then proceeded to get a spotlight to shine on them while he spoke about the night his parents conceived him. The reason I think it's cool is because I was there that night. It's cool that I was a "part" (I guess you can say) of his most memorable/special moment with the WWE.

[Tazz Dan]

I hope AJ can handle the baby crying all the time...oh yeah and then there's also the one she'll give birth too

tell you what, your heart was there, so we'll give you another shot at this one

That was actually a pretty good call. If someone else (rtd, rdd, LJ etc) had of said the same thing, everybody would have loved it.

[ron the dial]

i would never, EVER make a joke like that about my beloved cm punk.

[Lock Jaw]

AJ being pregnant is just an internet rumour for now anyways.....

But will CM Punk walk out on fatherhood when the baby is put over in the main event and receives more attention than him?!?!

[XL]

Recent Jericho podcast episode had Drew McIntyre as his guest. One of the most interesting thing from it was 3MB had the chance to become actual groupies with their gimmick.

Whole podcast made me really sad. The guy was talented with a great looks and enough unique about him to really make it big and WWE chucked it all away. A stable/feud with Sheamus and/or Barrett, given their history would have been great.

Listened to Vader on Austin's podcast the other day and he was talking about how in Europe they used to wrestle in rounds and how it could work as a once a night/special occasion type deal even today in WWE to add some variety.

Made me want to see a Barrett/McIntyre/Regal/Sheamus group that took the US Title, replaced it with the European Championship (major heat right there in the US) and would only defend it in "European Style" matches. Could generate so much heat where the babyface is about to win but the heel is saved by the bell, or with the heel cheap-shoting the face at the end of the round, etc.

Obviously they could still do this but without Drew. Hope he ends up in TNA.