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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">VAMPIRO FARTING SO LOUD YOU CAN HEAR IT THROUGH HIS HEAD-SET <a href="https://t.co/I1XdvL2LfW">pic.twitter.com/I1XdvL2LfW</a></p>&mdash; MaffewBotchamaniaGuy (@Maffewgregg) <a href="https://twitter.com/Maffewgregg/status/1033987295823708161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Cool King]

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[Bad News Gertner]

Fell asleep ridiculously early last night and woke up at 6am. Time to find something in my collection to watch. If I ever lose or break my external hard drive I might kill myself. I'd never be able to replace 10% of it.

Got the January 26th, 1986 episode of Prime Time Wrestling

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Tiger Chun Li @Gertner

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I miss hot Sunny. Definitely the hottest diva ever in her prime.

So lame that Vince and Vince were in love with Sable when Sunny was right there.

[Bad News Gertner]

Tiger Chun Li @Gertner

Tiger Cheung Lee was the man. Used to bring a kendo stick to the ring

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week’s <a href="https://twitter.com/WOSWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WOSWrestling</a> up slightly to 0.5m with a 5% share.</p>&mdash; The WATW (@the_watw) <a href="https://twitter.com/the_watw/status/1038773394702049280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Probably going to be around this level or worse for when WWE starts their own weekly NXT UK show. WWE is somewhat weak in the region for tv and WOS barely benefited from the lack of EPL games this weekend.

[XL]

Won’t NXT UK be on the network though?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Tiger Cheung Lee was the man. Used to bring a kendo stick to the ring

those Prime Time jobbers were amazing. Killer Khan is awesome too. The early Hogan days are completely glossed over.

[Emperor Smeat]

Won’t NXT UK be on the network though?
Yes although WWE also had plans for it to be on tv as well in the UK based on rumors.

Supposedly they shopped the brand around during the same time ITV kept delaying their own WoS plans. Was also speculated ITV might be interested in a deal with the WWE if they couldn't launch WoS.

[Cool King]

If NXT UK is going to be on TV in the UK, I can only imagine it would be on Sky Sports as they're the only channel in the UK that shows WWE Programming.

I can't imagine WWE going somewhere else and risk potentially making Sky unhappy.

[XL]

I think I’m misinterpretating you’re post about WOS. Are you saying that NXT UK will adversely affect WOS viewership, or that WWE can expect similar ratings?

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE can expect something similar in ratings. Maybe even worse considering TNA/Impact used to beat RAW for weekly ratings in the UK.

WWE already helped damage WoS by taking away some of the talent ITV originally had set for deals.

[Evil Vito]

I miss hot Sunny. Definitely the hottest diva ever in her prime.

I’m sad I missed prime Sunny. Didn’t see her until her WCW run in 2000.

Blasted many, many loads to 2000/01 era Trish, though.

[Jordan]

I’m sad I missed prime Sunny. Didn’t see her until her WCW run in 2000.

Blasted many, many loads to 2000/01 era Trish, though.

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Remember this?

[Splaya]

NXT in Detroit was a lot of fun today. Ricochet live is one of the best memories I now have as a wrestling fan

[Jordan]

NXT in Detroit was a lot of fun today. Ricochet live is one of the best memories I now have as a wrestling fan

I agree. Did he do that flip dive of a level at the show you saw?

[Evil Vito]

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Remember this?

Oh yes. And of course this.

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[Bad News Gertner]

those Prime Time jobbers were amazing. Killer Khan is awesome too. The early Hogan days are completely glossed over.

Killer Khan and Andre had an awesome feud in 1981. I think it won feud of the year in the Wrestling Observer awards.

People who say "Hogan can't work" have seen too little of his 84-86 run before he became obnoxious and his matches became repetitive. He was having these 9-12 minute sprints where it was balls to the wall pure action. His MSG matches with Muraco in 1985 for example.

[Jordan]

I think Killer Khan is one of the worst performers I've seen. Vince's obsession with using him weekly was so laborious for me to watch. Funny though how that type of gimmick has been in his wheelhouse for so long.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think Killer Khan is one of the worst performers I've seen. Vince's obsession with using him weekly was so laborious for me to watch. Funny though how that type of gimmick has been in his wheelhouse for so long.

lol I was watching Killer Khan v Randy Savage and Khan went to blow the mist in Macho's face, and he ducked. Khan then gets all confused and distracted for some reason, and Macho school boy's him for a 3. Literally no reason to get distracted lol.

But I thought those Iron Mike Sharpes/Killer Khans etc. were great JTTS.

[Bad News Gertner]

I think Killer Khan is one of the worst performers I've seen. Vince's obsession with using him weekly was so laborious for me to watch. Funny though how that type of gimmick has been in his wheelhouse for so long.

He was waaaaay better in 1981.

[Bad News Gertner]

Watching a April 1985 Prime Time Wrestling episode.

Currently watching Jim the Anvil Neidhart vs S.D Jones. Neidhart was with Jimmy Hart at the time, but Bret was still a face.

Just watched Barry O beat Rene Goulet in a real barn burner. Mean Gene Okerlund compared the smell of Rene Goulet 's glove to a Gas Chamber.

Feature match at least is Greg Valentine vs Tito Santana.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol that was a rough match, Neidhart wins.

Jack Reynolds and Jesse Ventura are your Prime Time hosts. Ventura just called King Kong Bundy the Burt Reynolds of the WWF.

Now we get King Kong Bundy vs Jose Luis Rivera. All Prime Time was for years was undercard House Show footage with a semi main event as their feature match.

King Kong Bundy managed by Jimmy Hart and wearing a cape! This was the beginning of the year long build up of King Kong Bundy to Wrestlemania 2

[Bad News Gertner]

Bundy with the mother fucking 5 count!

[Bad News Gertner]

Haha here we go! George Wells and Brett Hart (Spelled with two 'Ts") vs Shiek and Volkoff. Bret got literally no response. Like the volume of the crowd didn't change.

[Bad News Gertner]

Mr Volkoff asks that you all rise and respect his singing of the Soviet National anthem. Mean Gene is aghast.

Hart and Wells are such a jobber team that Volkoff sings the entire song uninterrupted

[Bad News Gertner]

Hart and Wells got squashed! Bret had like 20 seconds of offence.

[Bad News Gertner]

David Sammartino vs Matt Borne. Bruno's kid vs Doink. Tremendous

[Bad News Gertner]

Jesus, that was awful.

Ricky Steamboat vs Terry Gibbs next. These matches are all from the same MSG House Show. I would have asked for a refund.

[slik]

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[Emperor Smeat]

This week's SmackDown in contention for worst ever main event in WWE history.

Baring any changes, its set to be Brie Bella vs Maryse.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A week from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HIAC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HIAC</a> but only 2 days away from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a>! What does that mean? More matches!<a href="https://twitter.com/RonKillings?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RonKillings</a> will face <a href="https://twitter.com/AndradeCienWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AndradeCienWWE</a> (w/ loudmouth <a href="https://twitter.com/Zelina_VegaWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Zelina_VegaWWE</a>) and <a href="https://twitter.com/MaryseMizanin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MaryseMizanin</a> returns to singles action against Brie <a href="https://twitter.com/BellaTwins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BellaTwins</a> ... IN THE MAIN EVENT! <a href="https://t.co/j7wRCWNtof">pic.twitter.com/j7wRCWNtof</a></p>&mdash; PAIGE (@RealPaigeWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealPaigeWWE/status/1038937103663546368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

lol jesus

[Savio]

Perhaps now we will get 2 more suicide dives with the 2nd attempt ending up with the move being banned.

[Innovator]

Paige's boobs are being reckless with the matchmaking

[Cool King]

This week's SmackDown in contention for worst ever main event in WWE history.

Baring any changes, its set to be Brie Bella vs Maryse.

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[Cool King]

Also, Paige sounded really manly when she said "Hi you guys".

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe it will be a 5 star match

[Lock Jaw]

YOU DON'T KNOW

[screech]

R-Truth has been a highlight of SD for weeks

[Lock Jaw]

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[GD]

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[Droford]

I just had a brilliant idea

RAW needs to change its tag titles to 6 man since they have more roster and There are a few 3 man groups floating around between Raw and SD

[slik]

R-Truth has been a highlight of SD for weeks

I 100% agree and that is a thing about R-Truth I never thought I would say.

[Lock Jaw]

Why not? There was one point where he was one of the highlights of RAW.

[slik]

Why not? There was one point where he was one of the highlights of RAW.

I thought he was AWFUL on RAW every time he got pushed.

[Anybody Thrilla]

He was great when he turned on Morrison and feuded with Cena. Pretty much trash otherwise, though.

[Innovator]

Bischoff apparently just called Meltzer a child molester

[Cool King]

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[Emperor Smeat]

He was great when he turned on Morrison and feuded with Cena. Pretty much trash otherwise, though.

He was also pretty great during his pairing with The Miz prior to them getting fed to both Cena and Rock at Survivor Series 2011.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Jerry Lawler is upset WWE doesn't let him be on their shows anymore and blames it on PC culture instead of him being an actual pervert.

Also implied its not fair to have to treat female wrestlers the same as male wrestlers on tv and nor is it fair that his rep as a commentator is associated with the word "puppies."

The latest edition of Dinner With the King with WWE Hall of Famer Jerry Lawler is now online. The show was recorded in Chicago during Starrcast, and featured Lawler speaking to a live crowd. Below are some highlights.

Jerry Lawler on being associated with the word “puppies” in WWE:

The thing with the puppies, I did not coin the phrase. I was not the first one to say the phrase on WWE TV; but, because like you said I am so associated with that word puppies, most people think that way. That is probably the reason I’m not on TV anymore and I mean that seriously because they [WWE] went so politically correct. It’s not necessarily PG because they’re not PG. They’re further south than PG. They’re PC. They’re so politically correct to a fault and especially like they got so right now into – starting with the Revolution – now it’s all about empowering women and that’s a big political correct thing these days and everything, so WWE jumped right on that, so it’s about empowering women. They actually came to us and said, ‘Do not ever say that women are sexy or that they’re good looking or that they’re beautiful. You must treat them exactly like you would a male athlete. You could say that they are powerful, they’re strong, they’re athletic, all this stuff; but, nothing that would be considered sexist at all.

Lawler on slipping in “puppies” during the Raw 25th Anniversary show and Vince McMahon’s reactions:

This is like early on the show and I said, ‘JR [Jim Ross], it’s so nice to be here tonight and we’re gonna go back in time or something and I might even say puppies tonight.’ Immediately I hear [Vince McMahon] in my earphone (grunts), ‘Let’s stay away from that tonight.’ That was the last time it was ever said on there.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, sorry but R-Truths gimmick of coming out and cutting a promo just to be told he's not in the match is one of my favorite things ever

[Gerard]

This week's SmackDown in contention for worst ever main event in WWE history.

Baring any changes, its set to be Brie Bella vs Maryse.

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Only thing she's had brewing is some rubber tits and lip filler. Oh and the now standard girly tattoo just around the collarbone\shoulder area with some bullshit text that they can't actually read.

As for that main event, watching a bum jack off an unwilling dog would probably have more athleticism and plot twists in it.

[Lock Jaw]

She also has a heinous underboob tattoo now

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Only thing she's had brewing is some rubber tits and lip filler. Oh and the now standard girly tattoo just around the collarbone\shoulder area with some bullshit text that they can't actually read.

As for that main event, watching a bum jack off an unwilling dog would probably have more athleticism and plot twists in it.

The words of a very angry man.

[Gerard]

She also has a heinous underboob tattoo now

And one on the edge of her hand for some reason. :wtf:

[Mr. Nerfect]

R-Truth has been a highlight of SD for weeks

This is a problem.

[Lock Jaw]

This is a problem.

Not really. It just shows that Smackdown actually uses people well. Even in small roles.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not really. It just shows that Smackdown actually uses people well. Even in small roles.

If R-Truth is one of the better things on a show, then it shows that SmackDown actually doesn't use people well. Otherwise R-Truth wouldn't be standing out so much.

[Lock Jaw]

No one said he was one of the better things on the show. They said he was "a highlight". A highlight in a show of many highlights. The only was he is "standing out" is in not being a "waste of TV time/we don't care filler" like on RAW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Another random prediction/premonition: CM Punk returns to the WWE imminently. For a while, him returning would have been spun by audiences as hypocrisy, and when his integrity meant something, a stop off in New Japan or ROH would have made sense. Now that audiences have turned on him anyway, it makes less sense for him to do some "honor work" there. I think he will be back very soon and will get booed out of buildings Vickie Guerrero-style.

My prediction is a program with AJ Styles. Listen for the verbiage associated with AJ Styles to subtly switch over the next few months to go from "longest reigning WWE Champion in SmackDown history" or whatever to something not too far removed from Best in the World.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If he's not standing out then how can he possibly be a highlight? The very point of highlighting is that something stands out comparatively. If R-Truth is standing out comparatively, then there is a huge problem with the stuff he is overshadowing. There should also be a universe of preferable options before you land on R-Truth anyway.

You know what I've been really enjoying lately? The common cold. It has sucked previous years, but lately it has been a highlight of my year. It just goes to show how awesome everything is when the common cold is one of many highlights of your 2018.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WrestleMania:

* Roman vs. The Rock
* Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker
* Ronda vs. Charlotte
* Orton vs. Cena for Cena's 17th title ("never before one-on-one at WrestleMania!")
* AJ vs. Punk

Can't you just imagine Vince frothing over that card? And they'll try to put it on NBC. The whole show won't be on there, but they'll get 4 hours and the other 6 or whatever will be on the Network.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I forgot WWE was on this week. Normally I at least remember "Hey, it's a Raw day" or "I wonder if there's a PPV on this week?" This week I only really thought about wrestling today when I was bored and decided to pop on here. I did think about WrestleMania earlier in the week, but my fandom is very "other" at the moment.

I also think D-Bry signing a new contract with the company may be a jumping the shark moment for me. Good for him, but it's impossible to care about WWE right now, and him actively signing with them has made me feel a bit sour and depressed really, lol.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at WWE's way of wishing Paul Heyman a Happy Birthday today was to use the special occasion to make fun of him instead.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a wonderful clip for <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWENetwork</a> to choose to wish me a happy birthday! DAFUQ thought &quot;here's a great clip we can play to demonstrate our appreciation of Heyman's contributions and our acknowledgement of his talent?&quot; <a href="https://t.co/awsGTmO3Pc">https://t.co/awsGTmO3Pc</a></p>&mdash; Paul Heyman (@HeymanHustle) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle/status/1039557792548438016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Cool King]

I forgot WWE was on this week. Normally I at least remember "Hey, it's a Raw day" or "I wonder if there's a PPV on this week?" This week I only really thought about wrestling today when I was bored and decided to pop on here. I did think about WrestleMania earlier in the week, but my fandom is very "other" at the moment.

I also think D-Bry signing a new contract with the company may be a jumping the shark moment for me. Good for him, but it's impossible to care about WWE right now, and him actively signing with them has made me feel a bit sour and depressed really, lol.

I have found myself doing that before. I would be just about to go to bed then I would remember "Damn, Raw is on tonight" and I would then have to set my box to record it, then I would be able to go to bed.

Recently, I have been questioning why I even bother recording Raw and SmackDown (but mostly Raw).

Last week I pretty much skipped all of Raw because their was nothing on it that managed to catch my interest. I only stopped it to watch The B-Team's match but when Ziggler & McIntyre came out to face them, I just rolled my eyes and hit fast forward because I just knew that Ziggler & McIntyre would win, and they did.

With this week's Raw, I actually skipped all of it. As I was fast forwarding through it, I was keeping an eye out for anything interesting but it was basically just "The Shield Show" featuring squash matches.

• You had Strowman & Co. open the show with The Shield coming out. We then had three men wielding sticks (The Shield) take out around fifteen men (Raw Heels).

• Then we had Nikki Bella vs Ruby Riott in a match that was a foregone conclusion before the match even started.

• After that we had AOP come out with Drake Maverick (who by the way, looks absolutely ridiculous with them) and have a match in under two minutes against two jobbers.

• Triple H then came out to hype up AussieMania.

• The Tag Team Championship Match was around five minutes long and another foregone conclusion before the match even started. Rollins & Ambrose then made an appearance.

• Roode & Gable vs The Ascension was a three minute long squash match because The Ascension.

• Bliss & James vs Rousey & Natalya was really another foregone conclusion but it was a decent length and wasn't really a squash match. I wonder why (I say sarcastically).

• Then we had Elias do what he does and just play a few cords and then get interrupted by someone. On a rare occasion, a match quickly follows. This was one of those rare occasions.

• We then end the show with Reigns standing tall over Strowman.

It's painfully obvious that the end result of this Shield/Strowman & Co. angle is going to be The Shield standing strong with all of Raw's Championships.

Because of that, you're going to get a Tag Team Division that means less than it did before and Strowman looking stupid and like a bitch because he told everyone when he was going to cash in his MitB and he'll be added to the list of Cash-In Losers along with Sandow and Corbin.

Raw's Tag Team Division isn't exactly great but it seemed to be going somewhere with The B-Team actually being shown as working their way up the ranks of the division and The Revival being super hungry for the titles. Before that, Wyatt & Hardy had a decent run and The Bar were actually doing great before the black mark of Strowman & Nicholas happened, just so new titles could be crowned in Saudi Arabia which would please the Saudi's.

With Rollins & Ambrose as Tag Team Champions (and Rollins as IC Champion, who by the way, I actually forgot was IC Champion), I get the feeling that their just going to hold on to them whilst they follow Reigns about trying to make him look good and get people to cheer him.

When you keep digging deeper into what's going on on Raw, you basically find out that everything that is happening is only being done to make Reigns look good, even if he has absolutely nothing to do with certain wrestlers or divisions. The only wrestlers that are safe from anything Reigns related is the Women's Division.

Every single male wrestler's job on Raw is to make Reigns look good.

I find that to be pretty crazy.

It wasn't even anywhere near that bad when Cena was going through is "Super Cena" period. At least back then the Intercontinental Title scene and Tag Team Division, along with the jobbers were all safe being in their own little worlds.

[Cool King]

I don't know what it is about you Noid but the majority of the time, my replies to you always end up being unintentional long-winded rants.

[Cool King]

Still :heart: you though.

[XL]

Hey CK, did you watch your old Raw/SD episodes this week?

[Cool King]

I actually didn't as I had too much going on on Sunday.

I'll be watching the Raw & SmackDown I should have watched on Sunday, on Saturday and then it'll be back to normal when I watch the upcoming PPV (Judgement Day 2002) on Sunday.

[Evil Vito]

Just thinking about Cesaro, someone who I love and have often felt should've gone further than he has before realizing he's actually right where he should be.

I think he's an absolutely world class performer but he's never had that intangible, the innate charisma and likeability that would have made him a truly top star.

One of the problems he has is that his best character work is done when he's a sort of smug, cocky, pretentious foreign star who knows exactly how good he is...but his best in-ring work is done when he's a fiery comeback babyface. So he's either a heel with a toned down style that's sort of boring or he's a face with no personality, so he never gets that top-level crowd reaction

I think he's found his niche in WWE as a tag performer, he's absolutely the best babyface hot tag house-on-fire in the business and when he's a heel, the current style of tag team wrestling helps him get away with being a bit more exciting in the ring. It's really the perfect spot for him.

[Rammsteinmad]

I do seem to remember him being funny and charismatic when he was in the indies, but I think it really comes down to how WWE portray him, and the fact that he may not have the smoothest of promos at times doesn't help either.

I still hold out hope that he'll one day be a main eventer. Even if it's just one of those "thank you" title runs like Mark Henry or Kane in 2010 or whenever that was.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ricochet v. Pete Dunne, title vs title in two weeks on NXT. Sounds amazing.

[GD]

Ricochet v. Pete Dunne, title vs title in two weeks on NXT. Sounds amazing.

Very excited for this contest. Going to avoid all spoilers.

[Emperor Smeat]

Just thinking about Cesaro, someone who I love and have often felt should've gone further than he has before realizing he's actually right where he should be.

I think he's an absolutely world class performer but he's never had that intangible, the innate charisma and likeability that would have made him a truly top star.

One of the problems he has is that his best character work is done when he's a sort of smug, cocky, pretentious foreign star who knows exactly how good he is...but his best in-ring work is done when he's a fiery comeback babyface. So he's either a heel with a toned down style that's sort of boring or he's a face with no personality, so he never gets that top-level crowd reaction

I think he's found his niche in WWE as a tag performer, he's absolutely the best babyface hot tag house-on-fire in the business and when he's a heel, the current style of tag team wrestling helps him get away with being a bit more exciting in the ring. It's really the perfect spot for him.

He did have a really great chance to go to the next level as a star after crowds picked him to be their next Bryan but Vince and WWE squashed any chances of that ever happening.

Happened after Mania 30 when Bryan got hut but instead of WWE capitalizing on the reactions to build a new big star, they became very petty and killed off all the momentum Ceasro built up.

[Vastardikai]

I feel like the Bar needs a third member.

[Choviko Man]

WrestleMania:

* Roman vs. The Rock
* Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker
* Ronda vs. Charlotte
* Orton vs. Cena for Cena's 17th title ("never before one-on-one at WrestleMania!")
* AJ vs. Punk

Can't you just imagine Vince frothing over that card? And they'll try to put it on NBC. The whole show won't be on there, but they'll get 4 hours and the other 6 or whatever will be on the Network.

Does dis bumbaclot suffa from mental retardation?

[Nicky Fives]

I feel like the Bar needs a third member.

I'm afraid I've got some bad news....

[GD]

I feel like the Bar needs a third member.

I'm afraid I've got some bad news....

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b6d6220376f2539c4f73cf9bd3525dbd/tenor.gif?itemid=9875353

[Splaya]

See I think with Reigns standing tall over Strowman to end Raw, I’m one of the few people that believes that Strowman is walking out with the belt. 9 out of 10 times whoever has the upper hand on the go home show in the main event normally loses the match. I still think on that old school mentality at least with Raw

[Emperor Smeat]

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dw7928d346/images/large/GT2001.jpg

[Fignuts]

Ugh.

[Danny Electric]

I feel like the Bar needs a third member.

League of Nations V.2.0

[Evil Vito]

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-main/default/dw7928d346/images/large/GT2001.jpg

If Bryan wasn't with Brie, I'm 100% certain he'd have left WWE. As it is he probably didn't have all that much of a choice. "Happy wife, happy life."

[Vastardikai]

League of Nations V.2.0

I was thinking more of Kassius Ohno for a proper Kings of Wrestling reunion.

[#1-norm-fan]

So apparently The Bellas are on both shows. Is there an explanation for that?

[Anybody Thrilla]

The only explanation is that they like to piss me off.

[Innovator]

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[Emperor Smeat]

So apparently The Bellas are on both shows. Is there an explanation for that?
Nope.

At least when Cena did it, WWE gave an excuse for why he could swap brands even though it didn't make sense once you actually thought about it.

[Emperor Smeat]

If Bryan wasn't with Brie, I'm 100% certain he'd have left WWE. As it is he probably didn't have all that much of a choice. "Happy wife, happy life."

Absolutely since he teased several times about wanting to do some dream matches in the indies before hanging his boots up.

To be fair a bit, Bryan also mentioned a few times that Brie was the reason why he fought as long as he did to get medically cleared in the WWE. Without her, he probably ends up in Neville or Rey Mysterio situation for the long run.

[#1-norm-fan]

I feel like most of my posts here lately are "I just realized something happened in WWE that makes zero fucking sense. It could just be because I don't watch. Has it actually been explained?"

The answer is always "No."

[#1-norm-fan]

Nope.

At least when Cena did it, WWE gave an excuse for why he could swap brands even though it didn't make sense once you actually thought about it.

Cena is still a free agent as far as I know. As soon as that bidding war is over, he's gonna make a fuckton of money.

[GD]

So apparently The Bellas are on both shows. Is there an explanation for that?

Nope.

At least when Cena did it, WWE gave an excuse for why he could swap brands even though it didn't make sense once you actually thought about it.

After a quick search on the Superstars page of WWE.com, it seems like Nikki Bella is still advertised as a Smackdown competitor whereas Brie Bella isn't associated with either brands, which means that she's a "free agent". That being said, John Cena is listed as a RAW competitor, although he's advertised as a "free agent". The amount of inconsistency in the company is baffling considering how anal they're about production.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cena is still a free agent as far as I know. As soon as that bidding war is over, he's gonna make a fuckton of money.

Cena being a free agent this long pretty much makes both GMs look dumb if neither could lock him up to a deal.

Also sort of a sad state of affairs on WWE's end that they couldn't even get to 2 years with the current Brand Split era before needing stars to appear on both brands.

If they want to float the idea of stars being free agents, it needs to be done for the next Superstar Shakeup. Have a few stars test free agency while others get a bidding war storyline done. Would generate a few weeks worth of really interesting tv.

[Gerard]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7250027/wwe-news-ric-flair-wedding/amp/

Marriage number 5, wonder how long this one will last.

[Danny Electric]

So apparently The Bellas are on both shows. Is there an explanation for that?

I’m guessing Vince wants to fuck both of them so they can do what they want.

[Seanny One Ball]

Somebody talk to me about how awesome Shane O' Mac was as a wrestler during the Attitude era. I cannot get enough of Shane from back then. I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that nepotism aside, he was possibly the most entertaining wrestler to watch for a brief period as a special attraction.

[Seanny One Ball]

I am trying to figure out who my favourites were and if they still are.

The Rock
Mankind
Stevie Richards
Crash Holly
Bob Holly
Test
Billy Gunn
Farooq
Jerry Lynn
Lance Storm
D-Lo Brown

There are too many. I need to find a way to see the Attitude Era all over again so I can re-evaluate it 15 years on.

[Seanny One Ball]

I also enjoyed Edge & Christian, The Hardy Boyz and the Acolytes in tag team action but the best will always be Test and Albert. I did love the big boot and the choke-powerbomb thang.

[Seanny One Ball]

I went back to the hokey era of occupational gimmicks but I just felt bad about it. Hacksaw Jim Duggan was my hero back then and I was convinced The Mountie was actually hard.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Mountie was kinda scary when I was younger. Not as scary as Bam Bam, Yoko, or Taker though.

[Cool King]

I need to find a way to see the Attitude Era all over again so I can re-evaluate it 15 years on.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SimilarRapidAnhinga-max-1mb.gif

[Cool King]

Good list though.

[Simple Fan]

Cena being a free agent this long pretty much makes both GMs look dumb if neither could lock him up to a deal.

Also sort of a sad state of affairs on WWE's end that they couldn't even get to 2 years with the current Brand Split era before needing stars to appear on both brands.

If they want to float the idea of stars being free agents, it needs to be done for the next Superstar Shakeup. Have a few stars test free agency while others get a bidding war storyline done. Would generate a few weeks worth of really interesting tv.

They're already doing super shows at live events as well. Won't be long before they're doing it for TV and then scrap the split again.

[Seanny One Ball]

The Mountie was kinda scary when I was younger. Not as scary as Bam Bam, Yoko, or Taker though.



Two fat bastards and Taker. I have never been afraid of anyone fat.

[Savio]

Guys when we watch Hell in a Cell this Sunday we have to do better than just ordering pizza.... let's get a sub or Chinese takeout

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Two fat bastards and Taker. I have never been afraid of anyone fat.

Bam Bam had the flames on his head and beat the shit out of big bossman. Yoko did the Bonzai drop and hospitalized jobbers/Jim Duggan. I was 6, and horrified.

[Seanny One Ball]

How old are you?

[Seanny One Ball]

That's not me being cheeky I just mean I don't remember Yoko that early on.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

31

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I really started watching in late 92 when I was 5 going on 6 (though I watched before that, just too young to take it all in)

[Seanny One Ball]

Huh, I dunno why Yoko had no impact on me then. Papa Shango was the scariest man alive when I was a kid.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Huh, I dunno why Yoko had no impact on me then. Papa Shango was the scariest man alive when I was a kid.

I was a little scared of him but then Bret jobbed him to the sharpshooter and he kinda seemed like a bitch.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

They presented Yoko as a motherfucker in 1992/93. I freaked out every time he did his "HASS! HASS! BONZAIII!" catchphrase in interviews. Also couldn't watch when he jumped Bret during the WM9 contract signing. Literally ran upstairs :'(

[Seanny One Ball]

Contrast that with how I felt about Bret when he jobbed to Backlund and you have real emotional turmoil at a critical stage of youth.

This explains my psycho-sexual issues with older pale fishwives.

[Lock Jaw]

Huh, I dunno why Yoko had no impact on me then. Papa Shango was the scariest man alive when I was a kid.

Papa Shango making Warrior vomit literally scared me off wrestling for a few years

[Seanny One Ball]

Yep, me too. I came back for the duration of the Attitude era really. I had watched WCW a bit but Attitude and The Rock/Mankind got me back into wrestling I think. It may have been 97 rather than 98 but I missed at least three years.It's hard to remember when I saw everything, YouTube makes it seem like you were there.

[Seanny One Ball]

It was the black blood he made Warrior bleed from his head that ruined it for me.

Around this time my father bought me a Judge Dredd comic which he then confiscated when he saw the content.

Forever yearning...

[Lock Jaw]

I got back into it when I saw Mankind and Undertaker fight in a Boiler Room Brawl and Paul Bearer turned on Taker.

Then I saw Bret/Austin at WM13 and was really hooked

[Vastardikai]

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It may have been posted before, but fuck it. It is too amazing to not post again. Lanny Poffo would be WWE Champion if he was coming into his prime now.

[GD]

https://i.redd.it/lyh0cpw1f4m11.jpg

[Seanny One Ball]

I got back into it when I saw Mankind and Undertaker fight in a Boiler Room Brawl and Paul Bearer turned on Taker.

Then I saw Bret/Austin at WM13 and was really hooked



We have a couple of important things in common to do with our love of wrestling timeline-wise. I feel a bit more connected to you and the history now.
The Mankind/Taker feud was something I saw a bit of in Canada and it helped me talk my dad into getting Sky(cable) TV.

[Seanny One Ball]

I always used to get my mate Keith Munro to tape it for me before Sky.

[Seanny One Ball]

"Keith Munro" is a pseudonym my mate invented to blame things on and that I use to this day to fill in for names I forget...and other reasons.

Keith Munro cannot be trusted or well liked.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just thinking about Cesaro, someone who I love and have often felt should've gone further than he has before realizing he's actually right where he should be.

I think he's an absolutely world class performer but he's never had that intangible, the innate charisma and likeability that would have made him a truly top star.

One of the problems he has is that his best character work is done when he's a sort of smug, cocky, pretentious foreign star who knows exactly how good he is...but his best in-ring work is done when he's a fiery comeback babyface. So he's either a heel with a toned down style that's sort of boring or he's a face with no personality, so he never gets that top-level crowd reaction

I think he's found his niche in WWE as a tag performer, he's absolutely the best babyface hot tag house-on-fire in the business and when he's a heel, the current style of tag team wrestling helps him get away with being a bit more exciting in the ring. It's really the perfect spot for him.

I really love Cesaro -- I think he's brilliant in the ring, and he has the sort of "naturalistic charisma" I really like. It's not extroverted and it's not "innate." He just seems like a cool dude that is very confident and likable in life. That's without knowing the guy, of course. But that's not the charisma that gets you places in WWE.

They say they tried with him. I thought putting RVD into his program with Jack Swagger was a mistake. Just ride Cesaro's crowds reactions and let Cesaro outclass his former partner. I always thought Sheamus would have been a good opponent in Chicago (which is what they did), because Sheamus was a babyface (Cesaro was still a heel, just one with appeal to smart crowds) and you could have had Cesaro outclass him to a great pop. I was not really in on breaking up The Shield, so I think Money in the Bank should have gone to him.

What happened was that the Triple Threat distracted from Cesaro, they had to put Sheamus over Cesaro because he won the US Title inexplicably, and Seth was getting MITB. So Cesaro, this apparent world class competitor, lost a lot of steam from the booking too. It didn't help that Heyman was clearly getting notes that changed the directions of his promos from "Cesaro is going to be the guy" to "Cesaro is going to be a guy" to "Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar." Ass.

So while there are clearly flaws with Cesaro's personality game, I don't think the booking helped him. They don't book to cover up weaknesses in WWE, and they don't book to fostered strengths either. As a result he has ended up valuable, but not someone that is easy to get enthused about.

Of course, he will probably get a push in about 5 years randomly and after everyone has totally believed there was any chance of it happening.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So apparently The Bellas are on both shows. Is there an explanation for that?

Remember last time how the brand split stopped having any rules or reason? It's that again.

The thing with this shit is that people who are genuinely engaged with the product are probably going to ask this sort of question. "Is Nikki a Raw girl or a SmackDown girl?" Because on the surface, they actually believe the brands matter, because that is what they were told. So there are probably a bunch of earnest people out there genuinely confused as to what the fuck is going on and having that engagement challenged. It's bad television filled with continuity errors and loose ends that never go explained. They actively make this hard for anyone who honestly wants to give them a go.

It might seem like a little thing, but shit like that matters. When you make rules, you need to follow them, or at least know how to break them. WWE does none of this. And they expect to win a fucking Emmy?

[Bad News Gertner]

Two fat bastards and Taker. I have never been afraid of anyone fat.

Kamala terrified me as a 5-6 year old

[Wehttam]

Remember last time how the brand split stopped having any rules or reason? It's that again.

The thing with this shit is that people who are genuinely engaged with the product are probably going to ask this sort of question. "Is Nikki a Raw girl or a SmackDown girl?" Because on the surface, they actually believe the brands matter, because that is what they were told. So there are probably a bunch of earnest people out there genuinely confused as to what the fuck is going on and having that engagement challenged. It's bad television filled with continuity errors and loose ends that never go explained. They actively make this hard for anyone who honestly wants to give them a go.

It might seem like a little thing, but shit like that matters. When you make rules, you need to follow them, or at least know how to break them. WWE does none of this. And they expect to win a fucking Emmy?
i don't see how someone can talk so much about about something they don't even watch. just giant blocks of pointless text to pass by.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer, both Pentagon Jr and Fenix are now expected to not be leaving the indies for the WWE till at least 2020.

Before they were rumored to be bolting next year to the WWE but now it seems they are starting to book indie dates again for 2019 after previously being non-committal towards them. MLW already locked them up for all their 2019 events while the situation in Mexico is very much in their favor for staying.

[Mr. Nerfect]

i don't see how someone can talk so much about about something they don't even watch. just giant blocks of pointless text to pass by.

Well you clearly read that one. Pick a lane.

[Fignuts]

I'm just finding out about this now, but apparently the intro to Davari's theme in TNA was a plane crashing.

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Jesus fucking christ, TNA.

[DaveWadding]

According to the Observer, both Pentagon Jr and Fenix are now expected to not be leaving the indies for the WWE till at least 2020.

Before they were rumored to be bolting next year to the WWE but now it seems they are starting to book indie dates again for 2019 after previously being non-committal towards them. MLW already locked them up for all their 2019 events while the situation in Mexico is very much in their favor for staying.


These rumors have been giving me anxiety. They need to stay away.

[Evil Vito]

I'm just finding out about this now, but apparently the intro to Davari's theme in TNA was a plane crashing.

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Jesus fucking christ, TNA.

I have no recollection of this. What the fuck that's awful.

[Evil Vito]

Penta and Fenix would be dumb as fuck if they went to WWE.

[erickman]

ugh roman on collage game day

[Wehttam]

so he likes to scrapbook. what is the big deal

[Wehttam]

Well you clearly read that one. Pick a lane.
yes, i read it and commented on it. you got me.

it helped confirm that you write pointless blocks of texts.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

yes, i read it and commented on it. you got me.

it helped confirm that you write pointless blocks of texts.

Don't travel the dark path my man. Noid's shenanigans know no bounds.

[Wehttam]

but i haven't even picked a lane yet.

dealer's choice

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

but i haven't even picked a lane yet.

dealer's choice

lol. Actually I think you're equipped for Noid's idiocy. But be warned, he triggers easily. People bust his balls about his ramblings all the time and he just deflects because he lacks the ability to be even moderately self-reflective.

[Wehttam]

i appreciate the help

i know he can't take time away from his constant thoughts on wrestling. maybe someday it will poke a hole in his wall of dipshittery

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol Noid is one of my favourite posters.

[Wehttam]

he's quite the specimen

[Lock Jaw]

He's a maaaaan, such a maaaaaan

[Cool King]

The WWE are showing a live stream of the cell being constructed for tomorrow and the cell is now red. :|

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[Cool King]

I'd call it "Universal Championship Red".

[Cool King]

Actually, the colour is reminding me of TNA's cage that Homicide couldn't escape from.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DxQtvumfs8M/hqdefault.jpg

[XL]

I’d call it “new toy opportunity”.

[Emperor Smeat]

205 Live got bumped again from its time slot on the WWE Network.

Similar to last time, the new season of Mixed Match Challenge is taking 205 Live's regular spot but unlike last time, new episodes of 205 Live will now air before NXT on Wednesdays.

Being rumored this might also be a permanent change and not just lasting till the end of MMC season 2.

[erickman]

205 Live got bumped again from its time slot on the WWE Network.

Similar to last time, the new season of Mixed Match Challenge is taking 205 Live's regular spot but unlike last time, new episodes of 205 Live will now air before NXT on Wednesdays.

Being rumored this might also be a permanent change and not just lasting till the end of MMC season 2.

how are they going to do it live if they are going to do it wed, they need to take the live out of it and tape it like they do main event.

[XL]

If it’s not going live they should record it before SmackDown to warm the crowd up, rather than having a burned out crowd post SDL

[Gerard]

The WWE are showing a live stream of the cell being constructed for tomorrow and the cell is now red. :|

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Is it me or does it look smaller in terms of height? Doesn't look nearly as tall as the one Shane went flying off a while back, and that's without the ring being there for scale.

[Nicky Fives]

Height seems right to me.... I read online it was read a few minutes ago and thought I would hate it, but it doesn't look too bad....

[erickman]

If it’s not going live they should record it before SmackDown to warm the crowd up, rather than having a burned out crowd post SDL
yeah with half the talent becoming managers I do not see the show lasting much longer.

[Evil Vito]

In what should is no shock but also tragic news, Vince is said to be the one in charge of the Evolution PPV.

Put your money on the blondes.

[Cool King]

I finally got around to doing my now usual "Sunday Thing" of watching Raw & SmackDown from 2002.

I was supposed to be watching Judgement Day 2002 today but I didn't have time to watch Raw & SmackDown last Sunday so I watched them today instead and will watch Judgement Day on Saturday so I can be all caught up for next Sunday.

There wasn't really much to point out or say about the two shows other than they were quite enjoyable.

I noticed a big difference in the episode of Raw I watched where Booker T was announced at the new member of The nWo and what Raw is like now, in that in the episode of Raw I watched, the audience was always being given a reason to stay and watch, be it title defenses, appearances from big names or the main one, who the new member of The nWo would be.

All the way through the show the audience were being teased with this reveal of who it could be and through the work of some good promos, that you could tell came straight from the minds of the wrestlers themselves, the audience at home were always being told to stay and watch the show.

Now, the audience get nothing like this and the WWE's reason nearly every week to watch Raw these days is basically them saying "Hey guys, Roman Reigns is on the show tonight and he's going to beat up all the bad guys, sometimes all at once!".

Raw doesn't even have regular title defenses/changes like they used to from around 2002.

Anyway, before this evolves into a post I would usually reply to Noid with, the usual bullet points of random thoughts:

Raw:

• I'm actually quite surprised that Shawn Stasiak had the amount of TV appearances that he did. I've always remembered him being in the WWE and I've always actually kinda liked him, but I can't really remember him appearing on Raw the amount of times he actually did.

This episode of Raw even show fans with Stasiak signs. Something that actually made me say "wow" to myself, as I couldn't remember seeing any Stasiak signs when I first watched Raw around that time as a kid.

I liked his little crazy quirks he used to do, like his twitching/face pulling that he was doing during his backstage segment with Eddie Guerrero where Guerrero asked him if he's on drugs. It's the little things like that that I didn't really pick up on as a kid. I remember how he use to talk and I always liked that but it's the little things like the twitching/face pulling that really helped and added to the gimmick.

• This Raw was the debut of the "A Day In The Life Of Tommy Dreamer" vignettes and those are vignettes I remember extremely vividly.

I loved them and I still do.

• It's probably because I was a kid at the time but I didn't realise how good Steven Richards looked back then. He looked to be in great shape and it's probably the best I've seen him look.

• Finally from Raw, here's a random SpongeBob sighting from the show.

https://i.postimg.cc/1tzhCzNz/rickbob_flairpants.png

SmackDown:

• Some random French-Canadian midget came bursting out of a cupboard brandishing a camera, only to tell Stacy Keibler that he was "here with Panasonic's new e-Wear AV Recorder". He kept emphasising the letter "E" and appeared and then disappeared yelling "EEEEEEEEEEEEE!" so I'm assuming he was a character from Panasonic's adverts for the device and that was his catchphrase or whatever?

https://i.postimg.cc/Vv3xkBZS/midge.png

That was obviously edited out when it was broadcast over here in the UK because it's an advertisement but I didn't know that something like that actually existed, so this was the first time I had ever seen it and I just watched it in complete bemusement.

• There was an almost ten minutes of constant cheering for Hogan as he stood in the ring, which when it ended, Hogan called the crowd "awesome" and I think that if that happened today, the crowd would have broken out into a five minute "We Are Awesome" chant.

• Finally, a sign during Rico's entrance that is one of many wrestling signs showing bad grammar:

https://i.postimg.cc/MZV29gnV/image.png

(Just like last time, it's the difference between "Your" and "You're" that these sign makers seem to have a problem with)

[Emperor Smeat]

In what should is no shock but also tragic news, Vince is said to be the one in charge of the Evolution PPV.

Put your money on the blondes.

That would explain a lot about the direction and rumors for the card.

[Sixx]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Hell_in_a_Cell_2018_PPV_poster.jpg

This poster is ridiculous.

[Cool King]

It really is.

I'm still trying to figure out why the official poster has a tiny smiley face on Braun Strowman's right arm.

[Cool King]

It looks like it's not supposed to be there and if it isn't, then you would think they would have removed it.

[Gerard]

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Think Hogan ran his shirt through a lawnmower before coming out.

[Emperor Smeat]

It looks like it's not supposed to be there and if it isn't, then you would think they would have removed it.
Either WWE is really that lazy in the art or PR department to not notice it or whoever did it knew management wasn't going to catch it.

Last time WWE had a questionable poster, it took them a while to catch on and edit it. That was with Great Balls of Fire and the jokes of the logo resembling a wiener and set of balls.

TNA had a really shoddy poster for Lockdown one year where they did a terrible job getting rid of a cage render and don't think it was ever fixed.

https://i1.wp.com/wrestlingonearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/tna-lockdown-2014.jpg

[Sixx]

It really is.

I'm still trying to figure out why the official poster has a tiny smiley face on Braun Strowman's right arm.

I don't see it.

[Cool King]

I don't see it.

https://i.postimg.cc/3xR28Rx2/output_ycdztp.gif

[Cool King]

You can't really make out the mouth because of Braun's wrist tape.

[Sixx]

Oh, wow. Good job, WWE.

[Sixx]

It would be cool if the graphic team did this for shits and giggles. They could also draw a dick somewhere,

[Bad News Gertner]

Watching a 1983 MSG House Show tonight featuring the commentary duo of Vince McMahon and Gorilla Monsoon. They did commentary once before and it was Gorilla Monsoon making passive-aggressive remarks to Vince all night

[Savio]

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RIP Asuka

[Tom Guycott]

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RIP Asuka

So, that's going to be the thing? Naomi and Asuka are going to be Goldust and Booker, but with a language barrier instead of an electrically caused speech impediment?

:|

[Sixx]

Watching botchamania. The guy that shows up the most is someone called Fenix.

Loved the part where he botched an outside dive and hit some lady in the audience.

[Sixx]

Hm, Ambrose should stop with the suicide dives.

[GD]

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RIP Asuka

Wish these recap videos from WWE's official YouTube channel didn't end with the loud signatures. Jesus fucking Christ!

[slik]

Lock Jaw

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[Swiss Ultimate]

Actually, the colour is reminding me of TNA's cage that Homicide couldn't escape from.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DxQtvumfs8M/hqdefault.jpg

That was the worst thing ever.

[#1-norm-fan]

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RIP Asuka

... Holy fucking shit.

[Anybody Thrilla]

An event by the name of Starrcade has just been announced for my hometown of Cincinnati on November 24th. Tickets are on sale on Friday. I hope it's a PPV.

[XL]

Wasn’t it a big house show last year?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I didn't know they actually did one last year. The advertised matches are dual branded championship matches. Ric Flair is also supposed to be there. I dunno.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'll just get tickets first and ask questions later like a good boy.

[Cool King]

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RIP Asuka

Oh dear.

[Cool King]

Why not just cut to the chase and make her move her mouth like she's talking and have a voice dub over her à la Kaientai.

[Cool King]

Wish these recap videos from WWE's official YouTube channel didn't end with the loud signatures. Jesus fucking Christ!

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[Anybody Thrilla]

AJ v. Joe in a cage for the title, Charlotte v. Becky in a cage for the title, The Shield v. Braun, Drew, and Dolph, Elias and Ric Flair segment or something. Other stuff.

[Gerard]

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RIP Asuka

WWE creative geniuses at work. :nono:

[Swiss Ultimate]

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RIP Asuka

I'm motivated...

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Tommy Dreamer, WWE is still in a pissed and petty mood due to All In's success.

He found out first hand after holding a show at a recent Keystone ComicCon event. Problem for him was WWE either didn't know or forgot about it and threatened convention officials they were going to pull all their talent from the convention if Dreamer was allowed to hold his show.

They didn't go through with the threat and Dreamer mentioned the card for his event was nothing special nor did it have anything to do with WWE's presence at the convention. They pretty much tried to shut him down due to seeing the indies now as a direct threat out of an irrational fear.

[DaveWadding]

Watching botchamania. The guy that shows up the most is someone called Fenix.

Loved the part where he botched an outside dive and hit some lady in the audience.

That was the owner of the promotion. and Fenix is great. so, yeah. shut up.

[owenbrown]

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RIP Asuka

qGf4NnhsXlk

[Sixx]

That was the owner of the promotion. and Fenix is great. so, yeah. shut up.

There were like 8 botches just by him, so no, he's not that great obviously.

So you shut up.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Fenix is pretty tight.

[Vastardikai]

According to Tommy Dreamer, WWE is still in a pissed and petty mood due to All In's success.

He found out first hand after holding a show at a recent Keystone ComicCon event. Problem for him was WWE either didn't know or forgot about it and threatened convention officials they were going to pull all their talent from the convention if Dreamer was allowed to hold his show.

They didn't go through with the threat and Dreamer mentioned the card for his event was nothing special nor did it have anything to do with WWE's presence at the convention. They pretty much tried to shut him down due to seeing the indies now as a direct threat out of an irrational fear.

And if Linda wasn't in the cabinet, I'd make this an argument for WWE to be broken up.

[Sixx]

Fenix is pretty tight.

Since I love watching botches, I'm inclined to agree.

[Blonde Moment]

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[Lock Jaw]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/06/2d/1b062db52378cbb683d5294f1a23241a.jpg

[Sixx]

He does look like a demon here.

[Bad News Gertner]

Watching Foley: 20 Years of Hell. Foley sounds weird. Is there something the matter with him?

[Evil Vito]

That Asuka segment is appalling.

Stick a fork in her, she's done.

[Lock Jaw]

So weird at how they ruined Asuka.... and I am the positive one who didn't mind her losing to Charlotte.

(I mean, I would have had Asuka win, but was ok with a loss too. Just everything after was not good.)

[Lock Jaw]

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[Volare]

JBL on drugs beats half the roster cutting promo's nowdays.

[Lock Jaw]

JBL was the last great main event heel

[GD]

Would love for WWE to recreate something similar in today's political clim...oh wait! They did the Jinder Mahal Independence Day segment.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Would love for WWE to recreate something similar in today's political clim...oh wait! They did the Jinder Mahal Independence Day segment.

Forget about all that negativity. Shannnnnttiii

[Evil Vito]

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Remember when Bram, Epico, and Raquel Diaz were in The Ascension?

Good thing they didn't stick with that version of The Ascension, or they would've turned out to be total jobbers.

[Bad News Gertner]

JBL was the last great main event heel



:heart:

[Big Vic]

I don't think I had a posts quoted more than that Asuka one.

[slik]

https://i.imgur.com/4cmDzaE.jpg

[slik]

Just read it...it was an interesting read. No harm, no foul.

[Swiss Ultimate]

That was the owner of the promotion. and Fenix is great. so, yeah. shut up.

Dave...this made me think of you.

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[Anybody Thrilla]

My buddy alright got front row tickets for Starrcade. Now I just have to trick him into inviting me.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Those Glacier promo vids sure seemed like he would be better.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Nasty Boys weren't terrible promos.

Definitely watching a Clash of the Champions from 1996, btw.

[Simple Fan]

Been watching WCW from 1998 and its almost just like WWE's current product. Even more so with the Snickers sponsorship.

[Emperor Smeat]

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Holy shit at how terrible the new TMNT designs looks.

[Swiss Ultimate]

The Nasty Boys weren't terrible promos.

Definitely watching a Clash of the Champions from 1996, btw.

They were fun!

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on recent reports from the Observer and Post Wrestling, seems WWE has no clue on what direction they want to go for the Becky-Charlotte feud.

According to Meltzer and Pollock, WWE is now back on the idea of Becky being a full blown heel and Charlotte as the face star for the feud. Dropped whatever plans they had to make both tweeners in this feud and possibly going forward.

[Fignuts]

lol good luck with that

[Vastardikai]

I want to mention this issue I have with Walter. I mean, the guy is a great worker, is very mobile, and looks like a killer. The problem is... his name is Walter.

What comes to mind when I hear the name Walter?

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[Vastardikai]

Also, for the Double Post, I have something that may or may not have been posted before... a music video featuring Bill Goldberg and Lemmy looking like he has no idea what's going on.

And trust me, the tag is there for a reason.

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[RP]

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[GD]

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Solid promo. Dean destroying Cena will always be one of my favorite promos of all time.

[Tom Guycott]

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Remember when Bram, Epico, and Raquel Diaz were in The Ascension?

Good thing they didn't stick with that version of The Ascension, or they would've turned out to be total jobbers.

Wasn't Ricardo Rodriguez part of this group as well as sort of a "player/coach" manager? I swear I remember a promo where he downplayed being Alberto Of The River's ring announcer as "a means to an end" or somesuch.

[#1-norm-fan]

So weird at how they ruined Asuka.... and I am the positive one who didn't mind her losing to Charlotte.

(I mean, I would have had Asuka win, but was ok with a loss too. Just everything after was not good.)

I am the not positive one. Who also didn't mind her losing to Charlotte. And yeah. Everything since then has come off as a blatant "fuck you people who want good storytelling and character development." Which is just weird. I mean... ignoring people who value storytelling for the sake of just being lazy is one thing. But they're actively going against them at this point which is an oddly petty thing to do for a major corporation.

[Tom Guycott]

I am the not positive one. Who also didn't mind her losing to Charlotte. And yeah. Everything since then has come off as a blatant "fuck you people who want good storytelling and character development." Which is just weird. I mean... ignoring people who value storytelling for the sake of just being lazy is one thing. But they're actively going against them at this point which is an oddly petty thing to do for a major corporation.

What makes it more baffling is that they then don't see how this is a detriment, and just complain about the complainers instead of... you know... addressing the complaints.

And the cherry on that shit cake is that "fuck you people who want good storytelling and character development" attitude flies in the face of the company that tries to tout themselves as being all about said storytelling and development because they're a television drama instead of a wrestling show.

You can't bitch about wanting to build stars to go to Hollywood, then bitch more when they actually go. You can't say wins and losses don't matter, and then either have someone win all the fucking time (Cena) even when it makes no sense, job someone to oblivion but still expect them to stay over, or try to push the 50/50 thing to where nobody is better than anyone else and you end up with an entire roster of midcarders.

You can't call yourself the thing you're actively rebelling against.

[Tom Guycott]

I mentioned elsewhere that I watched TakeOver, and noted the "Call Me Up Vince" on Patrick Clark's tights. I feel kinda bad that I *don't* want that to happen, and it isn't because he doesn't deserve to be on the main stage. He has been in developmental for a looooong time, and has finally found his way and landed in his groove. He's gone from "who's this clown?" to "goddamn, he's pretty impressive" in his time there. But, if he came up to the main roster now, he'll be just another face in the crowd by Christmas... and even a short time ago, I would have added the caveat about how the only way this would be untrue is if Vince made a project out of him, but he made one of of Kevin Steen, and look where that went.

[Innovator]

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[Evil Vito]

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[Sixx]

https://imgtc.com/i/Czf2CHP.jpg

Nothing like true father's love.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Phenomenal reversal by <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a> out of the hammerlock DDT and into the Styles Clash! <a href="https://t.co/0VuqD9Q8kS">pic.twitter.com/0VuqD9Q8kS</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1042225318705201152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

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[Jordan]

What a fucking douche.

[Sixx]

He either lost his virginity at 22 and paid for it or at 8 and got told to keep quiet or die.

[DAMN iNATOR]

https://imgtc.com/i/Czf2CHP.jpg

There's only one pair of balloons Vince is interested in in that pic...:shifty:

[GD]

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[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com/qlZ0KUg.gif

[Big Vic]

Vince couldn't beat a panda, why did that jobber think he could?

[Emperor Smeat]

Viceland released the entire list of titles for their upcoming wrestling documentaries looking at the dark side of wrestling.

According to the Observer, Viceland originally planned to make 10 documentaries but cut the list down to six instead. Among those cut was a documentary planned on Chris Benoit's career and life.

Viceland will be debuting a wrestling documentary series titled “The Dark Side of the Ring” some time this fall, which will cover “controversial” topics from the world of wrestling.

There will be six documentaries and they’ll be about the following topics, according to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter:

– Bruiser Brody
– Randy Savage & Elizabeth
– The Montreal Screwjob
– The Von Erichs
– Fabulous Moolah
– Gino Hernandez

... The series will be narrated by Mick Foley.

[Droford]

I'd rather have had one on Benoit than covering Montreal for the bazillionth time

[Bad News Gertner]

Fucking hell. Viceland isn't available in Canada anymore. They had a series focusing on wrestling subcultures that I posted about a while back and it was fantastic.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'd rather have had one on Benoit than covering Montreal for the bazillionth time

Only real interesting topic left that has been barely touched in depth is the tragic impact the Screwjob caused for Owen Hart's life. Pretty much set everything in motion leading to his death less than 2 years later.

Out of the Hart Foundation, he was the only one to not jump ship to WCW but not out of loyalty to Vince. He wasn't financial strong enough to break his WWF contract unlike Bret and don't think WCW were interested or ever gave him a reasonable offer to leave.

Then you have the completely avoidable circumstances that led to both his Blue Blazer gimmick and tragic death at Over the Edge 1999. WWE being petty over his refusal for an infidelity storyline and his plea to not do the dangerous stunt from the rafters cost Owen his life in the end.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: an actual quality match got announced for WWE's Evolution event from tonight's NXT TV tapings.

NXT Women's title match:
Kairi Sane vs Shayna Baszler

[RP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Phenomenal reversal by <a href="https://twitter.com/AJStylesOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AJStylesOrg</a> out of the hammerlock DDT and into the Styles Clash! <a href="https://t.co/0VuqD9Q8kS">pic.twitter.com/0VuqD9Q8kS</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1042225318705201152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That is some core strength right there.

[GD]

https://www.cameo.com/realjackswagger

[Lock Jaw]

Seem like a bunch of wrestlers on that site!

Bret Hart for $125. James Ellsworth for $20!

[Vastardikai]

I am mad that I missed Brutus "The Barber" and Mickey Gall. A Cameo from either of them would have ended up being my best friend's Christmas Present.

[Lock Jaw]

@Cool King

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[Lock Jaw]

@Nobody

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[GD]

This gives me goosebumps

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Both variations were dope

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[GD]

The Rock's '03 Hollywood entrance was also quite awesome

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