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Emperor Smeat
02-21-2015, 01:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ygCFZvh.gif

Seth82
02-21-2015, 02:12 PM
Damn Kobashi looking rought like a zombie...

Kobashi would kill you and your yard tard friends.

one chop from him would have you and your pals screaming for your life.

Bad News Gertner
02-21-2015, 02:14 PM
Swede Savard is a killer Seth

loopydate
02-21-2015, 02:18 PM
Hear a lot about nxt being v good. Is it worth someone who doesn't really care about wrestling anymore watching it? Is it "good" because its full of indy wrestling and stuff? Or is it actually good television? Would it be worth me getting into if once these guys get really good they just leave for the wwe roster anyway?

I only watch NXT anymore. It reminds me of '80s WWF, just with better matches and less star power. Shorter shows, but stories for every level of the card. I'd recommend starting with the last couple Takeover shows. They do a good job of explaining the characters' back stories before each match and the reasons the matches are happening. If you decide it's not for you, it's not for you. For me, though, it's the only reason I even consider myself a wrestling fan, since I gave up on WWE a year ago and TNA and ROH well before that.

Anybody Thrilla
02-21-2015, 03:03 PM
NXT is titties. If you're posting in this thread at all, it's at least worth a shot.

Simple Fan
02-21-2015, 05:48 PM
http://future.wikia.com/wiki/RyansWorld:_Professional_wrestling

The future of the WWE. Lol

GD
02-21-2015, 06:07 PM
Vince is doing to HHH what Vince Sr did to him. Making him prove himself first.

Wonder what Shane would have done if he were still with the company.

Emperor Smeat
02-21-2015, 06:48 PM
WWE might have opened itself to getting sued by Punk again since they decided to be an active participant in the Dr. Amann lawsuit.

They decided to post a video from the 2014 Rumble and claims of having no medical documents as proof of Punk lying.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/alLmQFx801M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

In light of CM Punk’s allegations regarding WWE’s medical staff and the subsequent defamation lawsuit filed by Dr. Amann against CM Punk, WWE continues to have the utmost confidence in the ability and expertise of our world-class team of physicians, including Dr. Amann.

CM Punk claimed this past November that during the Royal Rumble pay-per-view event on January 26, 2014 he performed with a baseball-sized, purple lump on his back located near the waistband of his tights.

WWE’s investigation has shown the following:

CM Punk did not discuss this alleged condition with WWE’s team of physicians and trainers, nor did he discuss it with anyone in our Talent Relations department.

Subsequently, WWE has no medical records documenting this alleged condition.

The first time WWE was made aware of this alleged condition was when we received a letter from CM Punk’s attorney on August 22, 2014 after WWE terminated his contract.

There is clear video evidence from the 2014 Royal Rumble, which allows all to decide whether there is any appearance of a baseball-sized growth on CM Punk’s back.


Punk previously showed off a scar of where the lump was and had said during the Colt podcast that his tights covered the lump during the Rumble. Video of him showing the scar is around the 35 seconds mark.

http://chaddukeswrestlingshow.com/2014/12/19/cm-punk-shows-off-his-mrsa-scar-on-opie-radio/


Most likely the lump wasn't literally the size of a baseball but the WWE not having any documents would tie into Punk's claims of the doctor ignoring to treat or diagnose Punk's illness at the time.

Corporate CockSnogger
02-21-2015, 06:58 PM
Oh. I wasn't posting when cm punk left. Didn't get the chance to post about what a massive crybaby faggot he is.

Corporate CockSnogger
02-21-2015, 07:04 PM
Also not sure if I was posting when I made a great tweet about CM punk marrying Gilbert Gottfried
http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-01-at-15.12.59.png

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6600000/Gilbert-Iago-gilbert-gottfried-6621948-360-450.jpg

Tazz Dan
02-21-2015, 07:13 PM
Also not sure if I was posting when I made a great tweet about CM punk marrying Gilbert Gottfried
http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-01-at-15.12.59.png

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6600000/Gilbert-Iago-gilbert-gottfried-6621948-360-450.jpg

My best mate Matt used to date Vicki Guerrero. This is a pic of her and their daughter, I couldn't find one of her just by herself, and it's actually a better pic of her as she really does look a lot like Vicki IRL. It's scary.

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o678/tazzdan/BrookeOlivia1_zps17104848.jpg

Corporate CockSnogger
02-21-2015, 07:25 PM
Seems like a good time for a new "wrestler lookalike" thread.

Tazz Dan
02-21-2015, 07:27 PM
You should do it :y:

Mercenary
02-21-2015, 10:09 PM
http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large_lightbox/public/photo/image/2015/02/02_RAW_11242014sb_0489-3783578115.jpg


I'll be crushing something......

GD
02-21-2015, 10:12 PM
Guess who has arrived at the Lucha Underground temple? Non in-ring spoiler :)


http://i.imgur.com/MKtLSkZ.jpg

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-21-2015, 10:29 PM
Well they had a good run.

Tazz Dan
02-21-2015, 10:42 PM
You know, he could just be there to watch and enjoy the show.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-21-2015, 11:10 PM
They don't have 4 minute matches. How is he going to enjoy the show?

Lock Jaw
02-21-2015, 11:15 PM
So hostile....

#1-norm-fan
02-21-2015, 11:46 PM
Is it mostly wrestling for "smark faggots?" That fat guy that's the champion looks a bit shit. I guess mankind looked a bit shit too though. Suppose it depends on how he's portrayed.

It's actually much, MUCH more well booked than the main program. The only downside is the lack of star power/minor league feel obviously but the characters have consistency in how they're booked, the matches actually seem like they're happening for a reason, the gimmicks are enjoyable, etc. It seems written by someone with an attention span longer than a week.

And that's coming from someone who isn't into the whole "more rasslin', less sports entertainment" crowd. It's just better.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 12:20 AM
Wonder what Shane would have done if he were still with the company.

Probably would have been bald as a cueball.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 01:10 AM
Random Fastlane thoughts:

* I want Cesaro to not only walk out a Tag Team Champion, but I want Cesaro to debut new attire. Why not shake things up aesthetically? Get people talking about you a bit more.

* Stardust was my predicted winner for the Goldust vs. Stardust match in Tipsters, because I think the WWE will go that way, but I want Goldust to win that match cleanly, and for Cody Rhodes to then make his return to retire his brother at WrestleMania.

* I had John Cena pegged to beat Rusev via disqualification, but that route seems tired and predictable. People might be getting Fastlane for free, but I think they want to deliver something special that hooks people. I'm thinking that Rusev might actually beat Cena decisively and clean. Imagine if Rusev beats Cena to a pulp, and tries to win via countout, only for Cena to slide back into the ring and get even more of a beating. Then Rusev locks in The Accolade and Cena passes out in the hold. Cena does a stretcher job and Rusev makes out with Lana in a moment that reflects how big that victory is for both personally. Cena plays Batman and Rusev plays Bane heading into WrestleMania 31. Hulk Hogan can play the coach that gets Cena back on the horse to fight Rusev. Maybe he gets beat-down in the WrestleMania build-up to inspire Cena's return challenge to Rusev.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 01:12 AM
I'm also fairly certain that Reigns is going to beat Bryan clean, and that plans for WrestleMania will go ahead as originally scheduled. I'm happy to be wrong. Sheamus returns as a heel, makes a target out of Bryan ("Remember when I beat you in 18 seconds, fella?") and Bryan gets a measure of "Hey, I've still got something" when he gets personal retribution for that match by making Sheamus tap at WrestleMania.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 01:15 AM
Random Fastlane thoughts:

* I want Cesaro to not only walk out a Tag Team Champion, but I want Cesaro to debut new attire. Why not shake things up aesthetically? Get people talking about you a bit more.

* Stardust was my predicted winner for the Goldust vs. Stardust match in Tipsters, because I think the WWE will go that way, but I want Goldust to win that match cleanly, and for Cody Rhodes to then make his return to retire his brother at WrestleMania.

* I had John Cena pegged to beat Rusev via disqualification, but that route seems tired and predictable. People might be getting Fastlane for free, but I think they want to deliver something special that hooks people. I'm thinking that Rusev might actually beat Cena decisively and clean. Imagine if Rusev beats Cena to a pulp, and tries to win via countout, only for Cena to slide back into the ring and get even more of a beating. Then Rusev locks in The Accolade and Cena passes out in the hold. Cena does a stretcher job and Rusev makes out with Lana in a moment that reflects how big that victory is for both personally. Cena plays Batman and Rusev plays Bane heading into WrestleMania 31. Hulk Hogan can play the coach that gets Cena back on the horse to fight Rusev. Maybe he gets beat-down in the WrestleMania build-up to inspire Cena's return challenge to Rusev.

Kidd and Cesaro should also use Kidd's theme song. No more WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 01:19 AM
Cesaro's themes since WrestleMania last year have been abysmal. They should have just gone back to "Miracle" when he aligned with Heyman.

Tazz Dan
02-22-2015, 01:22 AM
They don't have 4 minute matches. How is he going to enjoy the show?

Your view seems rather tainted.

Poit
02-22-2015, 01:23 AM
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Tom Guycott
02-22-2015, 01:24 AM
Cesaro's themes since WrestleMania last year have been abysmal. They should have just gone back to "Miracle" when he aligned with Heyman.


Or just 100% co-opted Dean Malenko's theme entirely.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 01:42 AM
Or just 100% co-opted Dean Malenko's theme entirely.

I feel like Cesaro and Tyson Kidd could be using that as a theme now.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 01:43 AM
<iframe src="http://gfycat.com/ifr/PeriodicAcclaimedBoaconstrictor" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" width="600" height="338" style="-webkit-backface-visibility: hidden;-webkit-transform: scale(1);" ></iframe>

Fandango is so fucking good.

These battles with Adam Rose could lead to both men "getting serious," ditching their shitty gimmicks and entering themselves in the tag team division. Both men behind the gimmicks are good workers and good promos. Could be a sleeper hit tag team.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 01:44 AM
WrestleMania is getting so fucking big. They could really turn the "RAW After Mania" into its own massive thing and have big blow-off matches on that one too.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 02:24 AM
WrestleMania is getting so fucking big. They could really turn the "RAW After Mania" into its own massive thing and have big blow-off matches on that one too.

I don't think you'll get people to agree to have their big blow-off match the next night. Nobody goes into the WWE to main event the Raw after WrestleMania.

The Raw after Mania is a big deal just because the crowd doesn't want the weekend to be over. It might even be the people who couldn't get tickets for Mania trying to out do the crowd the night before.

Shadrick
02-22-2015, 02:49 AM
<iframe src="http://gfycat.com/ifr/PeriodicAcclaimedBoaconstrictor" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" width="600" height="338" style="-webkit-backface-visibility: hidden;-webkit-transform: scale(1);" ></iframe>

gif makes me happy and sad at the same time

#1-norm-fan
02-22-2015, 03:19 AM
Our lord and savior Johnny Curtis did something incredibly awesome? Shocker!

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 03:33 AM
I don't think you'll get people to agree to have their big blow-off match the next night. Nobody goes into the WWE to main event the Raw after WrestleMania.

The Raw after Mania is a big deal just because the crowd doesn't want the weekend to be over. It might even be the people who couldn't get tickets for Mania trying to out do the crowd the night before.

Well, good luck to The Miz, Damien Sandow, Goldust & Cody Rhodes then.

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 03:46 AM
Paige and Charlotte's Twitter war could actually be an interesting way to set up a feud for them. Wait until after WrestleMania though.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 03:59 AM
Goldust and Cody don't deserve it yet. They've feuded for like 5 minutes in this incarnation so far. Miz and Mizdow deserve a WrestleMania match.

James Steele
02-22-2015, 10:14 AM
Mizdow/Miz has a chance to me one of those epic undercard Mania memories.

Rammsteinmad
02-22-2015, 10:46 AM
I hope that gif of Fandango was unscripted coz that is absolutely fucking brilliant if he landed like that and just went ahead and kissed that chick.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 10:58 AM
The girl didn't seem to think the kiss was coming.

Lock Jaw
02-22-2015, 12:31 PM
http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2015/02/20150219_Article_WWEOscars_Guardians.jpg

Volare
02-22-2015, 12:32 PM
Reincarnation of Rick Rude right there.

weather vane
02-22-2015, 02:11 PM
HBK and HHH not on good terms?

Ultra Mantis
02-22-2015, 02:49 PM
Is Fandango babyface now or something?

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 03:06 PM
"On the February 6 Superstars, Fandango defeated Adam Rose while playing to the crowd during and after the match, turning him face."

From wiki.

Lock Jaw
02-22-2015, 03:17 PM
I think he is just a "whatever, we don't care."

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 03:19 PM
Same with Adam Rose probably.

Lock Jaw
02-22-2015, 03:22 PM
Nah, Adam Rose clearly a heel now...

Fandango is probably just a "Use him, don't use him, what do we care?" like when Alicia Fox was randomly playing a face/heel from week to week.

Emperor Smeat
02-22-2015, 03:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/brdMHKz.gif

Lock Jaw
02-22-2015, 03:42 PM
Have some ABC Oscar thing on TV on in the background....

Commercial comes on for Oscar "Behind the Scenes" show or something.... using this song:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/G6aQ8nU2Xeo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

owenbrown
02-22-2015, 03:57 PM
listening to this week's TLP and that vote of confidence by [Narcissus voice] YOUR FORMER HOST, NARCISSUS [/Narcissus voice] there :shifty:

#1-norm-fan
02-22-2015, 04:19 PM
I just now realized after watching that Fandango gif for the 72nd time... I get a little Shawn Michaels vibe from him. That seems exactly like something a young face HBK would have done.

Jazzy Foot
02-22-2015, 04:58 PM
Will you be masturbating during the Divas match?

Tazz Dan
02-22-2015, 05:21 PM
Goldust and Cody don't deserve it yet. They've feuded for like 5 minutes in this incarnation so far. Miz and Mizdow deserve a WrestleMania match.

You mean the two who have teased a breakup and feud for close to two years, from Cody leaving the team and returning as Stardust, to leaving again and finally facing off against each other? The really awesome slow build they've built towards this? It doesn't deserve a match over Miz/Mizdow?

erickman
02-22-2015, 05:27 PM
yeah goldust has been pushing for that match for 3 years and since he is retireing soon anyway, give him a good send off.

Ultra Mantis
02-22-2015, 05:36 PM
Mizdow can always have his moment with turning on Miz elsewhere on the card, probably in the Andre Battle Royale if they are doing that. Better to keep him with Miz going into Mania because at least then he will have his moment as an over act doing his stunt double schtick before they have to change his character and potentially ruin him.

Tazz Dan
02-22-2015, 05:45 PM
Feel like I'm seemingly 'going after' STD over the last few days, that isn't the case. Normally I deal with him fine, but I'm finding his posts just crazy recently. Am I starting to see something that I've been missing?

Tazz Dan
02-22-2015, 05:45 PM
What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.

Tazz Dan
02-22-2015, 05:47 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BcOVu1K0jg8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-22-2015, 06:03 PM
Feel like I'm seemingly 'going after' STD over the last few days, that isn't the case. Normally I deal with him fine, but I'm finding his posts just crazy recently. Am I starting to see something that I've been missing?

I'm a little run down and tired these last few days or some reason. Had a tetanus shot and my arm is still sore from it.

screech
02-22-2015, 06:15 PM
Well that's better than tetanus, at least.

Volare
02-22-2015, 06:16 PM
Welp, they have taken over your mind now....you've become one of them!!

Lock Jaw
02-22-2015, 06:22 PM
Did you have lock jaw?

Seth82
02-22-2015, 06:39 PM
Ric Flair and The Rock 'N' Roll Express reunited

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11005647_401535803304945_580612829_n.jpg?oh=5a900599f1e9ba38512a298f7dd574c4&oe=54ED0AEF&__gda__=1424795698_22d128f921a29b045b52f9e5b4040e7f

Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2015, 07:01 PM
I'd much rather see Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania than The Miz vs. Damien Sandow.

Kris P Lettus
02-22-2015, 09:53 PM
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/brock-lesnar-lupe-macias-iii.jpg

Lock Jaw
02-22-2015, 11:26 PM
Hot WWE Paige pic:

https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10979707_904145182976958_1983971319_n.jpg

She has to be hot in that getup indoors!

Simple Fan
02-22-2015, 11:28 PM
Looks like Brock and Henry had a baby

owenbrown
02-22-2015, 11:36 PM
Hot WWE Paige pic:

https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10979707_904145182976958_1983971319_n.jpg

She has to be hot in that getup indoors!

I wonder how many thought that was the alleged WWE Paige wardrobe malfunction from tonight?

Volare
02-23-2015, 09:47 AM
No work for me today.....Talk is Jericho binge day.

Innovator
02-23-2015, 10:58 AM
The Paterson one is good

Emperor Smeat
02-23-2015, 12:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9ZzdXJj.jpg

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-23-2015, 12:27 PM
Awesome. 9pm? What time is the PPV there 2am? They'll all be super drunk.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-23-2015, 01:22 PM
New inductees that will be announced on WWE Raw

The Bushwackers will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.

YAY WHOOA

HONGI!

Heisenberg
02-23-2015, 01:24 PM
That's not funny, they are very deserving of that

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-23-2015, 01:25 PM
I didn't say they weren't. YAY WHOA Hongi is their catchphrase.

loopydate
02-23-2015, 02:03 PM
Going to Raw tonight. Excited because, after three years living here, I'm finally seeing something at the Bridgestone. Not excited because, well, it's WWE. I'm anticipating seeing a lot of stars tonight, but nothing that's going to make me miss cable. Plus side, no commentary.

Evil Vito
02-23-2015, 02:11 PM
<font color=goldenrod>About the HOF inductees for tonight:

Definitely well deserved. Even though they were little more than a comedy jobber team for WWF, as the Sheepherders they were a genuinely awesome, violent team that was around for ages.</font>

Emperor Smeat
02-23-2015, 03:04 PM
Considering they were my favorite tag team as a kid, really happy right now about them being inducted into the Hall.

XL
02-23-2015, 05:53 PM
Pretty sick of the WWE App keep spoiling shit for me. Latest HOF inductions, PPV results, anything noteworthy gets spoiled via notification.

Simple Fan
02-23-2015, 06:02 PM
Yea I hardly ever use the app. Never watch Raw live anymore because of Gothem so all it does is spoiled things for me as well.

VSG
02-23-2015, 06:19 PM
lol how is it spoiling anything if it is unveiling stuff after it actually aired? Is this too much of an STD question?

Just uninstall it or see if it has an option to turn off instant notifications.

GD
02-23-2015, 06:24 PM
I am so sick of Dean Ambrose's clothesline.

Simple Fan
02-23-2015, 06:32 PM
Yea it was cool the first couple of times but he users to much.

Lock Jaw
02-23-2015, 06:44 PM
Dean Ambrose's clothesline is so sick of you.

Fignuts
02-23-2015, 06:46 PM
I wouldn't mind it so much if he fucking sold his opponents offense afterwards. Like I remember in a match against Rollins, ambrose took an enziguri, and bounced off and hit the clothesline. But instead of falling down with Rollins he acted like he didn't even just get KICKED IN THE FUCKING HEAD.

Rammsteinmad
02-23-2015, 09:21 PM
I liked that Barrett initially countered it at Fast Lane. Seems like one of those obvious predicaments now, where I get more frustrated when Ambrose stumbles backwards and yet nobody sees it coming.

It's the same as people always going for that stupid swinging punch after Cena's two shoulder tackles.

Emperor Smeat
02-23-2015, 11:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zpasZyP.gif

XL
02-24-2015, 03:44 AM
lol how is it spoiling anything if it is unveiling stuff after it actually aired? Is this too much of an STD question?

Just uninstall it or see if it has an option to turn off instant notifications.

I live in the UK. PPVs/Raw finishes at 4am, so I can't always watch live. Waking up to a notification telling me that Reigns won the Main Event at Fastlane was mildly annoying. Same if the big talking points on Raw are revealed before I can catch up on Tuesday.

But news of Rikishi and Bushwackers inductions came via the app, and this week it said Lesnar would be on Raw (which obviously didn't happen), those are things I'd like to find out whilst watching the show.

Anyway, I've managed to turn the notifications off.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 08:19 AM
I liked that Barrett initially countered it at Fast Lane. Seems like one of those obvious predicaments now, where I get more frustrated when Ambrose stumbles backwards and yet nobody sees it coming.

It's the same as people always going for that stupid swinging punch after Cena's two shoulder tackles.

Or people who try to clothesline Daniel Bryan after he just backflipped over you from the turnbuckle.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 08:53 AM
I've heard a few mumbles from people about how Kalisto randomly debuted on Main Event, but I sort of like it. Give him a humble start and have him earn eyes.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 09:02 AM
There have been a few times where I've wanted to see Bo Dallas interrupt a John Cena promo, where he comes out after a humiliating Cena loss and tells John to get back on the horse, and tries to "inspire" Cena, whilst clearly just trying to edge in on his spotlight.

Cena vs. Bo Dallas has way more appeal to me than it arguably should.

Big Vic
02-24-2015, 09:05 AM
Love the Bo Dallas Character....needs to come back.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 09:07 AM
Man, imagine if Cena had matches against Bray Wyatt and Bo Dallas at back-to-back WrestleManias. A weird little piece of trivia that not every fan might get.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 09:09 AM
Right now I'm imagining Bo Dallas coming back as Cena's inspirational corner man for his match against Rusev at WrestleMania. Then, at WrestleMania, he throws in towel when Cena gets put in The Accolade.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 09:10 AM
You could either have Dallas cement his heel status right after the match by giving Cena a Future Shock, or you could have Cena be all "What was that about?!?" on RAW, and create a storyline where Cena is actually a bit of a jerk to Bo, which leads to the heel turn, and a deliciously justified heel Bo Dallas.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 09:19 AM
I was thinking just before: I'd actually rather see The Undertaker vs. Luke Harper, with Bray Wyatt being the instrument behind it all, than Taker vs. Wyatt. As a match. But I always liked the idea of Luke Harper actually being the wrestling guy from The Wyatt Family, with Bray just being the "leader."

XL
02-24-2015, 10:12 AM
Cena's like a self-inspirational machine. I was expecting skits with Hacksaw, Slaughter, and Hogan telling him how he's gotta get back into the fight, and do it for America but he seems to be doing it by himself.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 10:14 AM
Was expecting the same thing. Cena to be all "Rusev is the better man," Hulk to be like "No way, brother, you need to get back out there," then Rusev beats down Hogan when Cena's not there, and Cena comes roaring back to fight for America out of respect to Hulk.

Simple Fan
02-24-2015, 10:29 AM
I was thinking just before: I'd actually rather see The Undertaker vs. Luke Harper, with Bray Wyatt being the instrument behind it all, than Taker vs. Wyatt. As a match. But I always liked the idea of Luke Harper actually being the wrestling guy from The Wyatt Family, with Bray just being the "leader."

I would like to see Bray beat him and claim his soul or what ever and have taker accompany Wyatt to the ring and do his dirty work for hin and stuff. When he debuted against Kane in the Inferno match I thought Kane would end up joining them but they put him in the Authority. Just felt like Kane joining them as a chokeslam machine that never talked would have helped Wyatt out more then he has helped the Authority. I can see Wyatt with Takers soul controling him and maybee that could lead to a Taker/Sting were Taker plays the heel and Sting wins and snaps Taker out of it.Then they go on to have Takers retirement match at WM 32.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 10:36 AM
Bray Wyatt's relationship to The Authority has always intrigued me. After he defeated Kane in the Ring of Fire Match, he took Kane and then suddenly we had the Director of Operations. Daniel Bryan was a constant thorn in The Authority's side, but then he found himself a target of Wyatt. As did CM Punk (before The Shield were specifically sent in him to neutralize him). Then he intervened on behalf of Seth Rollins this year.

If The Authority has a problem with you, Bray Wyatt ends up cleaning it up if their usual methods don't get it done. I'm surprised more of a kayfabe link between Triple H and Bray Wyatt -- if not one that is loose and only called upon occasionally due to the nature of both men -- hasn't been established.

These undertones would have fed brilliantly into my ideal Rock vs. Bray Wyatt match at WrestleMania this year.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 10:37 AM
I can't see Taker appearing in Wyatt's corner, but I would not be opposed to seeing The Wyatt Family reunite and carry The Undertaker to the back after Wyatt vanquishes him at WrestleMania.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 10:39 AM
I also wanted to see Roddy Piper host a Piper's Pit around WrestleMania time and ask Kane where the monster is, and why he has become such a corporate lackey. But he asks it in such a way that Kane actually snaps out of it and Tombstones Piper, before leaving The Authority. In the wake of The Undertaker's defeat, a face Kane taking up the fight against Bray Wyatt -- whilst obviously not their first clash -- would be a perfectly fine story to tell. Especially if it leads to Wyatt destroying both Brothers of Destruction and solidifying himself as The New Face of Fear.

Simple Fan
02-24-2015, 10:50 AM
Be nice to see Sting put him over to maybe at Summerslam.

Heisenberg
02-24-2015, 11:20 AM
http://shop.wwe.com/Lana-Standee/W09085,default,pd.html?dwvar_W09085_color=No%20Color&start=5&cgid=New

Lana Standee, who's buying it?

GD
02-24-2015, 11:48 AM
http://www.wwe.com/f/network-main-top-button/Celebration_network_button1028-230x55_watch-2-loops.gif

JimmyMess
02-24-2015, 11:55 AM
Bray Wyatt's relationship to The Authority has always intrigued me. After he defeated Kane in the Ring of Fire Match, he took Kane and then suddenly we had the Director of Operations. Daniel Bryan was a constant thorn in The Authority's side, but then he found himself a target of Wyatt. As did CM Punk (before The Shield were specifically sent in him to neutralize him). Then he intervened on behalf of Seth Rollins this year.

If The Authority has a problem with you, Bray Wyatt ends up cleaning it up if their usual methods don't get it done. I'm surprised more of a kayfabe link between Triple H and Bray Wyatt -- if not one that is loose and only called upon occasionally due to the nature of both men -- hasn't been established.

These undertones would have fed brilliantly into my ideal Rock vs. Bray Wyatt match at WrestleMania this year.

they probably haven't put any of that together in reality. Which is comical, because it's a pretty neat idea.

Big Vic
02-24-2015, 12:49 PM
Was expecting the same thing. Cena to be all "Rusev is the better man," Hulk to be like "No way, brother, you need to get back out there," then Rusev beats down Hogan when Cena's not there, and Cena comes roaring back to fight for America out of respect to Hulk.
Unless Rusev defeats Cena again they will completely kill his momentum.

Big Vic
02-24-2015, 12:52 PM
I guess if "CENA HAS TO WIN" he could do so by DQ or Count out.

Emperor Smeat
02-24-2015, 02:40 PM
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Droford
02-24-2015, 03:58 PM
WWE sent me a $25 coupon (no min order) for wwe shop for being a from the beginning subscriber to the network which is pretty cool. Might get a shirt

Droford
02-24-2015, 04:16 PM
http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2015/02/wwe-network/new-emojis3/MarkHenry.png

That doesn't look like Mark Henry

Emperor Smeat
02-24-2015, 04:21 PM
Ring of Honor and Samoa Joe have been in talks for dates coming up and The LAW has been told a deal has been made between the two.

As of this writing Joe is scheduled for the next set of television tapings on March 7th in Baltimore along with March 13th in Milwaukee, March 14th in Chicago Ridge, the Supercard of Honor card on March 27th over WrestleMania weekend as well as the April 4th television tapings in San Antonio and April 25th live event in Minneapolis, Minnesota ...

There were budget issues internally but through other non-exclusive talent not being available it made way for ROH to come to terms with Joe.

Innovator
02-24-2015, 04:36 PM
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Lock Jaw
02-24-2015, 04:38 PM
Greatest moment in wrestling history

Simple Fan
02-24-2015, 04:56 PM
Bummer Joe would have been awsome in NXT.

Emperor Smeat
02-24-2015, 05:11 PM
Greatest moment in wrestling history

Still don't get why the WWE felt the need to just toss that away a couple of days later.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4668381/randy-orton-rko-to-christian-o.gif

Lock Jaw
02-24-2015, 05:13 PM
Because they are dumb.

Metaphorical neg rep for posting that gif.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-24-2015, 05:28 PM
Bummer Joe would have been awsome in NXT.

He just agreed to do four shows. It's not like he signed a long term deal.

drave
02-24-2015, 05:53 PM
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Greatest moment in wrestling history

Still don't get why the WWE felt the need to just toss that away a couple of days later.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4668381/randy-orton-rko-to-christian-o.gif

Because they are dumb.

Metaphorical neg rep for posting that gif.

You know....... something something living in the past :mad: something.

Lock Jaw
02-24-2015, 06:02 PM
Still hate Orton forever for that. :foc:

Emperor Smeat
02-24-2015, 06:16 PM
Found the thread about that show: http://www.tpwwforums.com//showthread.php?t=112874

Looking back, that would have been a perfect opportunity to make Orton the top heel of Smackdown and Christian as its top face. Instead ended up as a failed attempt at making Orton the "Cena" of Smackdown and Christan as the WWE's biggest whiner.

VSG
02-24-2015, 06:27 PM
Still hate Orton forever for that. :foc:

Get the smiley right :fu:

VSG
02-24-2015, 06:27 PM
Nah jk. I miss :foc: too :'(

rad dggy dg
02-24-2015, 06:29 PM
kane should wear some zubaz

remember zubaz everyone

rad dggy dg
02-24-2015, 06:30 PM
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/522a2049e4b0a0ce717e990c/t/54ec7a5be4b03ce768b95075/1424783975752/?format=500w

holy death metal

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 06:53 PM
Christian got to win the World Title as a babyface. That's something Chris Jericho never got to do.

Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2015, 06:58 PM
Still, that Orton/Christian stuff was fucking terrible. I mean, the matches were great, but a real chance to make Christian a guy worth caring about was flushed away. Why not have Christian win their first match with a roll-up. It would have fit the styles both guys wrestle, and it would have allowed Christian to look like a crafty and able champion, whilst there would still be some question as to which Superstar is more dominant.

Sheamus and Mark Henry were getting involved in the title scene around this time, so you could have had some matches between Christian and those guys. A Fatal 4-Way could have allowed Christian to again defeat Orton, without actually pinning or submitting him. By this point, you begin to know whether or not Christian is working as a face champion. If things aren't cooking too well, you do the title switch, then have Christian turn heel for the rematch to steal the title back. Diesel is brought in as Christian's bodyguard for the next big match against Orton and helps Christian again defeat The Viper. Cue a blow-off inside Hell in a Cell, with Orton winning back the title.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-24-2015, 07:02 PM
Wasn't Christian the only person to ever win the title based on the "Disqualification can cause a title change" rule? That's something.

Mercenary
02-24-2015, 10:34 PM
Wasn't Christian the only person to ever win the title based on the "Disqualification can cause a title change" rule? That's something.

The Giant at Halloween Havoc. Won in a match where the title could be changed by disqualification. The Giant defeated Hogan by disqualification when Jimmy Hart interfered.

Seth82
02-25-2015, 10:36 AM
http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/08/17_WCW1076.jpg

erickman
02-25-2015, 11:23 AM
http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/08/17_WCW1076.jpg

good ole easy e I wish sting would bring him back post wrestlemania to take over raw.

Simple Fan
02-25-2015, 12:29 PM
good ole easy e I wish sting would bring him back post wrestlemania to take over raw.

Vince could bring him back after Sting beats HHH. Eventually feel like Sting wouldn't approve of Eric.

CSL
02-25-2015, 02:46 PM
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Greatest moment in wrestling history

Still don't get why the WWE felt the need to just toss that away a couple of days later.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4668381/randy-orton-rko-to-christian-o.gif

Because they are dumb.

Metaphorical neg rep for posting that gif.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/m0rP2ib-kVQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Rammsteinmad
02-25-2015, 03:07 PM
Regardless of how the reigns were, Christian will still go down in history as a two-time world champion, so I'm happy we at least get that.

(Three-time if you count the ECW title, which nobody does. Four-time if you count the TNA title, which nobody does).

Innovator
02-25-2015, 03:22 PM
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Emperor Smeat
02-25-2015, 05:06 PM
Might be looking at one of the worst Mania seasons for RAW ratings if things hold up. The good news was the 3rd hour managed to beat Better Call Saul and didn't have the usual 3rd hour decline.

The bad news is ratings are still down compared to last year and RAW keeps struggling to reach a 3 in ratings. Usually RAW holds steady in the 3s to 4s range this time of year or gets better as the weeks go by but the opposite is happening this year.

Rammsteinmad
02-25-2015, 05:19 PM
That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately. :(

Poit
02-25-2015, 05:47 PM
Wasn't Christian the only person to ever win the title based on the "Disqualification can cause a title change" rule? That's something.

The Giant at Halloween Havoc. Won in a match where the title could be changed by disqualification. The Giant defeated Hogan by disqualification when Jimmy Hart interfered.

I think Ziggler's first WHC was via DQ. I think it was something like he could win the title via DQ, and Edge would be DQed if he used the spear?

Rammsteinmad
02-25-2015, 05:51 PM
Wasn't he just awarded the title by Vickie Guerrero?

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-25-2015, 05:59 PM
Awarded because Edge used the spear behind the refs back when it was banned. It was a pinfall victory by Edge though.

Maluco
02-25-2015, 06:00 PM
That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately. :(

Couldn't have stated how I feel any better than this. :y:

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-25-2015, 06:04 PM
That's coz WWE sucks so bad at the moment.

I've been a fan since 1993, and up until about a year ago I watched religiously. Every show. Now; I watch Raw every week, but skim through it all in about an hour. I watch Main Event if there's a noteworthy match, and even that I skim through, and I haven't actually watched Smackdown for a few months now.

WWE is just so unbearable at the moment. I can't not follow the product as it's been such a huge part of my entire life, but God it is just so bad right now. The stories are all mostly shite and it's impossible to really "care" for anyone since pushes come and go and everything is so inconsistent right now.

It's Wrestlemania season right now and I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about anything. Not interested in Lesnar/Reigns. Not interested in Wyatt/Undertaker. Not interested in Sting/Triple H.

I don't wanna "lose" pro wrestling and the WWE, but damn it's so hard to follow and enjoy the product lately. :(

NXT is tonight. :y:

Rammsteinmad
02-25-2015, 06:06 PM
NXT falls under the same category as Raw. I watch it every week, but skim through most of it. That's mainly just due to lack of time, and since it's not "canon" WWE. If that makes sense. But yeah NXT is the best stuff coming out of WWE at the moment.

Mr. Nerfect
02-25-2015, 07:48 PM
I feel the same way. I was so excited for the WWE post-WrestleMania XXX too. I really feel that you should be able to look at what comes out of one WrestleMania, look at the next, and see the story of the year. Here is the WrestleMania card I was looking forward to seeing:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

Triple Threat Match
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns

The Game vs. The Icon
Triple H vs. Sting

The Rock vs. Bray Wyatt

Intercontinental Championship
Cesaro (c) vs. John Cena

Divas Championship
Special Guest Referee: Stephanie McMahon
AJ Lee (c) vs. Paige

Ladder Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship
The Usos (c) vs. The Wyatt Family vs. Dolph Ziggler & Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger & Stardust

United States Championship
The Miz (c) vs. Sami Zayn

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Everybody else fighting in a Battle Royal that actually means something after Cesaro has done something with his career

But I guess I prefer story over stars, as that other thread questioned. Nothing on this WrestleMania card is really shaping up to be that epic. Well, Triple H vs. Sting exists on both, Cena is fighting for a mid-card title against a foreign heel beast and Bray Wyatt is taking on a legendary part-timer; but I'd prefer Cesaro to Rusev, Zayn to Mizdow and The Rock to Taker.

Simple Fan
02-25-2015, 08:18 PM
Watched the Interview a couple times last weekend and Francos character reminded me a lot of The Miz.

Mr. Nerfect
02-25-2015, 08:23 PM
Didn't a football player count the fall for Edge?

Mr. Nerfect
02-25-2015, 08:25 PM
I remember thinking that the time was right around here for a Drew McIntyre face turn. Vickie Guerrero was abusing her power as the acting General Manager of SmackDown, and she made a target out of Kelly Kelly. Drew standing up for her would have made perfect sense. Edge was set to face Alberto Del Rio. Dolph Ziggler vs. Drew McIntyre would have been something...interesting. Ziggler vs. Morrison became a lot of fun between two rising stars, but it was sort of slapped together.

Dark One
02-25-2015, 09:29 PM
Just watched the Daniel Bryan Wrestlemania 30 follow-along on the Network today during lunch, and now I'm even more pissed off about him not being in the main event.

Like, the crowd fucking loves him. Seemingly everyone in the business loves him. His story was so good last year and would be so good this year.

Instead we're getting a guy half the crowd hates and who has two facial expressions against Our Father of Suplex.

I just don't get why they're so resistant to it. I do understand wanting to try and make a new star, but this may go the way of Orton's first world championship reign that took years for him to recover from.

I'm trying to think of another time they've so obviously went against crowd popularity, but it's not like they ever bumped Steve Austin out of the title picture for Marc Mero in 97 or 98.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-26-2015, 12:45 AM
Didn't a football player count the fall for Edge?

Yep, Clay Matthews.

GD
02-26-2015, 03:48 AM
I vividly remember this storyline

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Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 07:19 AM
Just watched the Daniel Bryan Wrestlemania 30 follow-along on the Network today during lunch, and now I'm even more pissed off about him not being in the main event.

Like, the crowd fucking loves him. Seemingly everyone in the business loves him. His story was so good last year and would be so good this year.

Instead we're getting a guy half the crowd hates and who has two facial expressions against Our Father of Suplex.

I just don't get why they're so resistant to it. I do understand wanting to try and make a new star, but this may go the way of Orton's first world championship reign that took years for him to recover from.

I'm trying to think of another time they've so obviously went against crowd popularity, but it's not like they ever bumped Steve Austin out of the title picture for Marc Mero in 97 or 98.

Yep. Roman Reigns hasn't really done too much worth remembering as a singles star. He was bad-ass with The Shield, but that whole dynamic has changed now. Reigns' best story for Mania this year would have been going against Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose in a Triple Threat, as I have supported many times. And Reigns should have won that match. And it should have been treated as a HUGE deal. And when Seth Rollins won the WWE World Title from Daniel Bryan using Money in the Bank, you better believe that Reigns would have been in the title conversation. But WrestleMania doesn't feel like the right time.

If the company had taken a chance and put the WWE Title on him at Money in the Bank, and had him be the guy to drop it to Brock Lesnar, then at least this match could have the story of being revenge for Reigns. The story is so...blocked in.

Daniel Bryan's WrestleMania position would have been an organic one. A WrestleMania-to-WrestleMania story, in many a sense, and Bryan didn't even need to get pinned to lose the title to set it up. Fuck, Bryan could have made Reigns himself at SummerSlam or something.

Innovator
02-26-2015, 10:04 AM
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Big Vic
02-26-2015, 10:24 AM
Wasn't he just awarded the title by Vickie Guerrero?
I honestly consider Ziggler a 1 time WHC champ.

Big Vic
02-26-2015, 10:25 AM
Yep. Roman Reigns hasn't really done too much worth remembering as a singles star. He was bad-ass with The Shield, but that whole dynamic has changed now. Reigns' best story for Mania this year would have been going against Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose in a Triple Threat, as I have supported many times.
Why would Reigns and Ambrose want to fight each other?

Innovator
02-26-2015, 10:38 AM
Shout out to this kid:

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Droford
02-26-2015, 11:43 AM
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probably the greatest crowd pop that never happened

Dark One
02-26-2015, 12:24 PM
Daniel Bryan should snap and become a badass roundhouse-kick machine, leading to him interrupting every match at Wrestlemania and roundhouse kicking all competitors to death.

Screaming "ROADHOUSE" afterwards is optional but strongly suggested.

Emperor Smeat
02-26-2015, 01:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/X6c3uZI.gif

Shadrick
02-26-2015, 01:49 PM
Daniel Bryan should snap and become a badass roundhouse-kick machine, leading to him interrupting every match at Wrestlemania and roundhouse kicking all competitors to death.

Screaming "ROADHOUSE" afterwards is optional but strongly suggested.

This is fucking stupid.


It is NOT optional.

slik
02-26-2015, 02:24 PM
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Rammsteinmad
02-26-2015, 02:30 PM
Forgot this was on Youtube. Johnny Kickpads at the beginning might look familiar to some of you.


Dave Brookside = Rammsteinmad

Can't sell Stunners to save my life.

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Emperor Smeat
02-26-2015, 03:21 PM
Dirtsheets with a side of depressing stuff:

[Samoa] Joe has also had an offer, or at least confirmed opening interest and conversation, from Lucha Underground, from AAA, and an apparently solid offer from New Japan, which may be New Japan using him outright, although we’ve been told more likely sending him to bolster NOAH at first and eventually move over. There is also what was described as active talks from WWE, which is why right now his long-term plans are very much open.

This is what we do know. Lesnar flew into Nashville and was there when the show started. There was a business disagreement between Lesnar and Vince McMahon, related to negotiations regarding Lesnar signing a new contract. Speculation that the negotiations included Lesnar wanting to do a UFC fight while under his next WWE contract were not part of this at all. It was only related to the offer and terms of the new contact itself.

The situation, which was not settled at press time, could be settled quickly and perhaps even easily but right now the two sides are at a key impasse related to the new deal and neither side wants to be the one to back down.

What that disagreement was over has been kept secret, but we were told it was all business and had nothing at all to do with current or future creative. The business dispute related to why he didn’t appear on the show, and the company was forced to change its scripting. Lesnar left the arena while the show was going on and flew home. There were reports that he flew on his private jet, but that’s incorrect. When Lesnar comes to WWE shows, the WWE provides him a private jet from his home and back to his home as one of the stipulations of his contract.

At the end of the day, my thought is that this is not so much financial, because it will be next to impossible to prove that Brooks’ allegations against Amann cost him any money–since WWE never dropped him. The object is more to get Punk to settle and publicly apologize for what he said, or for WWE to get a public “win” over Punk because Punk bettered them badly in round one in the court of public opinion, and then waltzed over to the company they are most compared to and most paranoid about those comparisons with.

If he apologized for anything about the Amman story, the WWE could take it as a victory and throw into question everything he said about Paul Levesque, which is the real key to all this. Brooks painted Levesque as someone incompetent at his job, who couldn’t even remember basic dates of tours that anyone in wrestling would know without thinking. He also painted McMahon as an out-of-touch old man.

Michael Bennett & Matt Taven are expected to get a major push shortly here. Hiroshi Tanahashi is a big supporter of Bennett. The impression is that they may get a tag team push but that Bennett and Maria would eventually get a big singles push. You’ll be able to tell by the booking, as when Bennett & Taven team and lose, if they split who loses the falls, then that says one thing, but if Taven is the one asked to lose, that will confirm it as Gedo comes from the school where the winner and loser of the fall in tag matches are done for a reason.
Those two (plus Maria) are the ROH stars NJPW wants for the next Japan trip.

The company has been in preliminary talks with both AXS and Spike. I don’t know how serious either are, past the point that they, in fact, both have taken place. ROH made a pitch to AXS and I don’t know that anything happened from there, as it’s nothing anyone is talking about. My impression is AXS is happy with New Japan. AXS, when it was HD-Net, aired ROH from 2009 to 2011, when HD-Net opted not to renew the deal. With Spike, the sides are talking right now although it’s premature to say they are serious, since key people in both companies weren’t even aware of the talks, but we have since gotten confirmation that talks are taking place. The idea would be a Friday night show that would air about once per month, with Spike having a regular rotation of Bellator, Glory, Al Haymon’s boxing and pro wrestling. That would be a big coup for exposure, since Spike is in 83 percent of the country and Sinclair Broadcasting syndicated stations make up 37.5% of the country (ROH has a few non-Sinclair stations so they are in close to 40%).

One of the reasons the frustration level is even above usual levels here is that the talent was together for the U.K. tour a few weeks ago and were talking to each other and realized that there are no house shows planned, and no PPV shows planned (past the taped ones that just took place that nobody actually buys and are only done to fulfill existing international television contracts) and since almost everyone except the few top guys are paid by appearance, there was a realization that almost everyone was going to earn substantially less in 2015. There’s also the recognition that all TNA is doing at this point is staving off dying as opposed to before, when, whether true or not, the idea was that they were at least trying to grow.
Between last year's attempt as cutbacks and the new tv deal, TNA is still facing serious financial problems.

The show was built around confusing all the fans who wanted to cheer Orton. It kept people into the show longer, but thus far seems to have weakened Orton’s babyface turn. Funny, I learned so much from that botched Del Rio babyface turn, and the people here must think it was cool. I guess forgetting the part that Del Rio’s babyface turn that they counted out was so effective they had to turn him back and he wound up in obscurity. But I now can’t wait for the Mayweather-Pacquiao buildup because everyone learns from WWE, and now they are going to have the promoter treat them both like they are first graders, make them meekly shut up, and talk them into being best friends four weeks before their fight because it’ll swerve the audience, and you need that to top 3 million buys.
Meltzer lashing out on the idiotic booking the WWE did this week (and in general since going into the Rumble).

Ring of Honor Wrestling® (“ROH”) is happy to announce that we will once again partner with New Japan Pro-Wrestling® to present three must-see super shows for pro wrestling fans.

Details available at this time include the dates & locations of the three events. ROH & NJPW stars will be announced at a later date.

WAR OF THE WORLDS ’15 will be held Wednesday, May 13th, 2015 in Philadelphia at the 2300 Arena, formerly known worldwide as the ECW Arena. Tickets are on sale now for Ringside members now and go on sale to the general public Friday, February 27th @ 10am Est. Ringside members can get their pre sale code here. Tickets are on sale exclusively through the 2300 Arena, and are available by clicking here.

GLOBAL WARS ’15 will be held on Friday, May 15th and Saturday, May 16th, 2015 at the Ted Reeve Arena, located in Toronto, Ontario. Tickets are on sale now for both events, and are available here.

The COO of ROH Joe Koff when asked about the events said: "We're very excited to once again bring the stars of New Japan to our great fans. New Japan Pro-Wrestling is a fantastic partner with exceptional wrestlers and we always strive to give our fans an experience of a lifetime. With these three stacked events, showcasing the best wrestlers in the world, we will do just that.”

"With Roman Reigns cleanly pinning Daniel Bryan in what was a hell of a main event on Fast Lane, it’s very clear that Vince McMahon is still planning on the scenario he’s probably had for probably one year, with Reigns beating Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania.

Fan reaction at the Royal Rumble, and since the Royal Rumble, largely indicated that scenario was backfiring. Forgetting about Bryan, and forgetting about skill level or being ready or even talking ability, Reigns is nowhere near as over and doesn’t feel like he has anywhere near the momentum of the babyface who is going to chase and win the title on the biggest show of the year.

What’s notable is that 21 years ago, a younger Vince McMahon was in the same position, choosing between his own hand-picked next star of the company, tall bodybuilder Lex Luger, or one of the best in-ring performers of that time, Bret Hart. Historically, Luger was far closer to what McMahon liked his champions to look like. But Hart was more popular among the fans. Faced with the crowd reaction in the laboratory setting of a big show, the fans liked Hart more than Luger when they squared off. The WrestleMania original plan, Luger beating Yokozuna to win the title, was changed to Hart. Luger’s momentum was lost, and a little over two years later, working as part of a mid-card tag team he walked out on the company. Hart became the company’s biggest star, before he was gone more than three years later.

This time, McMahon went with the original plan. It was acknowledged that Reigns wasn’t over like he should have been. So they went to work. They brought in his cousin, Dwayne Johnson, to make his Royal Rumble win even bigger. But the miscalculation of putting Bryan in the Rumble made the whole scenario backfire, and even the endorsement of Johnson didn’t matter.
Part of a longer article regarding Vince going all out with Reigns, Bryan's depressing star future, and the WWE being hell bent on defeating the fans this year. Link to the article below.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2x6e60/dave_meltzer_but_the_biggest_story_on_fast_lane/

While it is about looks for men to a degree, you will never see an unattractive woman with a bad genetic body, no matter how talented they are technically, in a WWE ring. Sara Amato, who trains the women in NXT, I would not call unattractive at all, yet she was deemed not attractive enough to be anything but be a trainer, even though she was a more talented wrestler than almost all on the roster. Melissa Anderson is probably the furthest thing from unattractive, yet she never did nor is she likely to ever get a WWE look and it was said to be because she didn’t have the right look. One woman who was cut by WWE, and ended up having a successful long career in TNA, said she was told when released by John Laurinaitis, even though she was doing well as a wrestler, that, “We’re looking for tens and you’re not that.” Others at the recruiting level were told that while WWE no longer would allow their performers to pose in Playboy, what they are mainly looking for is women physically attractive enough to do so.
Related to the article regarding the recent AJ/Steph Twitter stuff and likely AJ's future with the company. Link to that article below.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2x6m5a/dave_meltzer_on_the_aj_lee_tweetsreturn/


Some other sheet news include Sasha Banks confirming scanning for WWE 2k16 has started and she's in the game and Rey Mysterio's WWE tenure is almost over now that he got moved to the website's Alumni section.

Heisenberg
02-26-2015, 05:40 PM
http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/superstar_large/public/talent/profile/2012/10/Raven_Full_20120925.pngThankful for witnessing the peak of Raven back in the day

Jura
02-26-2015, 06:13 PM
It seems like if the WWE doesn't get cheers then they could still fight through the boos but if the audience just sat quietly or stood up with their backs turned when someone they didn't like wins then I think WWE would scramble to please the fans.

Jura
02-26-2015, 06:14 PM
https://s.yimg.com/cd/resizer/2.0/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w500/12ac5689d09d82b5cc7e8320aa86cd0bc073a88f.jpg

GD
02-26-2015, 06:42 PM
lol at this video

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Lock Jaw
02-26-2015, 06:51 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MsOVvbB26-g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-26-2015, 07:04 PM
WWE sent an email saying that as of March 1st every WWE Hall of Fame Induction ceremony will be available on demand the WWE Network.

Lock Jaw
02-26-2015, 07:27 PM
Here are some more pictures

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-yXjd2XEAAmhtB.png:medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-yZvxZVIAAoqhq.jpg:medium

Lock Jaw
02-26-2015, 07:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/PnT1ESI.jpg

Vince during creative meeting

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 07:57 PM
Why would Reigns and Ambrose want to fight each other?

Personal pride. Ambrose and Reigns were at each other's throats during the dying days of The Shield. It was a large part of why Seth Rollins turning heel made sense -- he was sick of holding that unit together and he wanted a World Title future for himself.

But on a more immediate level, you could have set this up very easily in the Royal Rumble. Seth Rollins would lose the Triple Threat, but then be entered into the Rumble, because he's The Authority's guy and they were holding a space open for him anyway. Rollins looks incredible, despite his earlier wars (he's a top star, after all), but he eventually gets clotheslined out by Reigns. Rollins just stares back from the floor, as Reigns perhaps gives Rollins a wink or a mock Shield fist-bump. Instead of going to the back, Rollins grabs the leg of Reigns, who is then dumped out by Ambrose -- who gets the elimination unknowingly with the assist of the man on this planet he hates the most.

At Fastlane, to blow off the Orton vs. Rollins drama, you have them face-off in a match. Orton can even win that when he hits an RKO off a springboard attempt from Rollins, or something equally awesome. Rollins has been so well protected at this point. Reigns & Ambrose can be forced into a tag team match against two of The Authority's stooges. Maybe Big Show & Kane? Ambrose and Reigns can win after Ambrose gets the pin after a Reigns Spear, and Ambrose has blind-tagged himself in.

Simple, time-tested stuff.

#1-norm-fan
02-26-2015, 08:13 PM
What’s notable is that 21 years ago, a younger Vince McMahon was in the same position, choosing between his own hand-picked next star of the company, tall bodybuilder Lex Luger, or one of the best in-ring performers of that time, Bret Hart. Historically, Luger was far closer to what McMahon liked his champions to look like. But Hart was more popular among the fans. Faced with the crowd reaction in the laboratory setting of a big show, the fans liked Hart more than Luger when they squared off. The WrestleMania original plan, Luger beating Yokozuna to win the title, was changed to Hart. Luger’s momentum was lost, and a little over two years later, working as part of a mid-card tag team he walked out on the company. Hart became the company’s biggest star, before he was gone more than three years later.

This time, McMahon went with the original plan. It was acknowledged that Reigns wasn’t over like he should have been. So they went to work. They brought in his cousin, Dwayne Johnson, to make his Royal Rumble win even bigger. But the miscalculation of putting Bryan in the Rumble made the whole scenario backfire, and even the endorsement of Johnson didn’t matter.

Considering how poorly Bret as champ worked out for the company, if that scenario was indeed on his mind, no wonder he didn't break his plans.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 08:29 PM
Read the whole article, fan.

Jazzy Foot
02-26-2015, 08:32 PM
So Rey Mysterio gone from the WWE. Thoughts anyone? The end of an era?

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 08:38 PM
Rey Mysterio was a fantastic talent. All you have to do is look over his body of work to see how many great matches he had, even just under the WWE umbrella. It's a shame things disintergrated between him and the WWE.

Volare
02-26-2015, 08:40 PM
Drunk Noid is drunk lol.

James Steele
02-26-2015, 08:41 PM
Rey Mysterio has only worked a handful of matches in the past 5 years. It is long past due for him to retire or work part time.

Tazz Dan
02-26-2015, 08:47 PM
Apparently there's going to be a ladder match for the IC Title at Wrestlemania. I'm okay with this.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 08:54 PM
I'm okay with this, but it just doesn't...jump out at me. I'd rather see a Ladder Match for the Tag Team Titles. Or Seth Rollins gets forced to defend his Money in the Bank contract against some rivals, old and new. I was just hoping for Bad News Barrett vs. Dean Ambrose in a straight-forward match built around how much both want to be the IC Champion.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:04 PM
I was thinking before, as unlikely as this is, given that the public spotlight that is appearing on how the WWE treats its female employees -- I think the best Divas Title match the WWE could put on at WrestleMania, given the circumstances, is Nikki Bella defending the Divas Title against Paige and Emma in a Triple Threat Match.

The biggest problem is Emma's credibility, but we all know she can go. The smark crowd at WrestleMania will know she can go. The announcers can sell it as her "stepping up." That can be part of her story heading into the match. Have her and Paige get another shot against The Bella Twins on RAW, this time with time (the obvious stage one remedy), and the face girls actually win. Emma can then make Brie Bella tap-out to the Emma Lock on another RAW or SmackDown. Paige wants another title shot, but so does Emma. The two fight in a #1 Contender's Match, but Nikki and Brie keep putting feet on the ropes and all that. Eventually, Emma and Paige work out what is going on, and they go after The Bella Twins. The match is thrown out.

Brie being involved would add the drama of sisters fighting over the title, but she's been fine playing the bad sister helping out Nikki. Plus, it runs the risk of turning into a tag team match at points. The Bellas are bound to start fighting at some point, but it's going to be quite blocky. A Triple Threat allows Paige and Emma to team together, but when they fight, Nikki can pick her spots, and then Brie is free to run interference.

I wouldn't put the title on Emma, although it would be a feel-good moment, but Paige can win by pinning Nikki. Emma and Paige hug, but then Emma attacks Paige, turning heel on the grand stage. Does Emma become super-serious? Maybe. A fun gimmick like her's is great for getting a foot in the door, but she can surely mature past it. But she could also keep it and just act like a total bitch towards the face girls -- which her character in NXT actually did -- only now you are actually meant to boo her.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:06 PM
If you throw that in there with a Stephanie McMahon/AJ Lee confrontation, where perhaps Sarah Amato attacks Lee from behind; and perhaps Natalya and Naomi getting involved in my dream Cesaro & Kidd vs. The Usos Ladder Match, and you've got yourself some very strong spots for the ladies.

Lock Jaw
02-26-2015, 09:06 PM
Just seems like a "mess" to me.... Going to be terrible for Daniel Bryan to get shoved into a random IC title match multi-man match.....

If they really want to put a bunch of people in the IC title picture.... I say somehow have the title become "held in abeyance" and then hold a mini-tournament at WM.

Daniel Bryan
Dolph Ziggler
Bad New Barrett
Dean Ambrose

And kick out R-Truth from the mix because no one cares.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:08 PM
I've come off my "The WWE should pay The Rock a lot of money to come in and face Rusev so that they can run Cena vs. Bryan" high, I do still think they should do Cena vs. Bryan. Just have Sheamus be the guy that faces Rusev, trying to win back his US Title.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:11 PM
I seriously think that R-Truth is just in there because the WWE realized that there are no black talent involved in WrestleMania in any big way. Doing up all my fantasy cards for Mania, I figured this out myself and found myself trying to find a way to get The Prime Time Players and The New Day on the card, despite them not really being hot major acts at the moment.

And that's a problem. The WWE shoved Kofi Kingston and Big E, two babyface African-American stars with potential, into a faction that has made people care less about them, as opposed to more. Titus O'Neil is around, but they never did anything with him and they made him look foolish at the Royal Rumble. They could have bounced him back from this with a mean streak, but they didn't. And who was he realistically going to face? John Cena? Get off it. Mark Henry would no doubt be involved in something if he were around, but he's not in the best of ways physically at the moment, although a WrestleMania return wouldn't surprise me.

#1-norm-fan
02-26-2015, 09:16 PM
Read the whole article, fan.

I did read it. It likened the Bryan/Reigns situation to the Hart/Luger situation and said how Vince wanted Luger to win the title at WrestleMania but when faced with the situation of the crowd rejecting the "Vince guy" for the "pure wrestler guy", he changed his mind. This time, he did not. What am I missing?

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:17 PM
That Luger was not the guy either.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:19 PM
Cannot believe how over Daniel Bryan was last year. Seriously. Wow. I regularly go back and watch the moment where Bryan rejected Bray Wyatt. As great as Wyatt is at the character, you can almost see him marking out.

Tazz Dan
02-26-2015, 09:19 PM
Just seems like a "mess" to me.... Going to be terrible for Daniel Bryan to get shoved into a random IC title match multi-man match.....

If they really want to put a bunch of people in the IC title picture.... I say somehow have the title become "held in abeyance" and then hold a mini-tournament at WM.

Daniel Bryan
Dolph Ziggler
Bad New Barrett
Dean Ambrose

And kick out R-Truth from the mix because no one cares.

I care about Truth. Now wash you mouth out with soap.

#1-norm-fan
02-26-2015, 09:19 PM
That Luger was not the guy either.

Well technically he was never given the reins to see how it would turn out so we'll never know. He chose to give Bret the reins instead. This time, he went with his original plan. That was my point.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:23 PM
I like Truth in the same way that I liked Rey Mysterio. People act like "Oh, it's fucking this guy again," but break down the guy's ability. He's a good worker in the ring, he's confident on the mic, he's able to warm up crowds -- he's an overall more than worthy addition to the roster. He's pretty much the perfect sports entertainer for any mid-card spot.

That being said, I could care about him so much more if he went crazy heel again.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:24 PM
I remember thinking "R-Truth turning heel is cool, but how much gas does he really have in the tank to be a top guy coming out of this?" That was four years ago... :(

Innovator
02-26-2015, 09:24 PM
Let's put a guy coming off neck surgery in a multi man ladder match

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:25 PM
Well technically he was never given the reins to see how it would turn out so we'll never know. He chose to give Bret the reins instead. This time, he went with his original plan. That was my point.

I think your point is missing the point of the article. That's all.

Lock Jaw
02-26-2015, 09:25 PM
I seriously think that R-Truth is just in there because the WWE realized that there are no black talent involved in WrestleMania in any big way. Doing up all my fantasy cards for Mania, I figured this out myself and found myself trying to find a way to get The Prime Time Players and The New Day on the card, despite them not really being hot major acts at the moment.

And that's a problem. The WWE shoved Kofi Kingston and Big E, two babyface African-American stars with potential, into a faction that has made people care less about them, as opposed to more. Titus O'Neil is around, but they never did anything with him and they made him look foolish at the Royal Rumble. They could have bounced him back from this with a mean streak, but they didn't. And who was he realistically going to face? John Cena? Get off it. Mark Henry would no doubt be involved in something if he were around, but he's not in the best of ways physically at the moment, although a WrestleMania return wouldn't surprise me.

That is actually a really good point. In which case they should have built up The New Day for a month and thrown them into a tag team ladder match with Usos/KiddCesaro. Kofi Kingston in a ladder match is always reliable.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:33 PM
That is actually a really good point. In which case they should have built up The New Day for a month and thrown them into a tag team ladder match with Usos/KiddCesaro. Kofi Kingston in a ladder match is always reliable.

This is what I ended up thinking they could go with. There were only a few things I didn't like about it:

1. There are three New Day guys. That gives them an edge in a match like this. If one of them sits idly by in the back, they don't look hungry enough. If the third guy gets involved, then I can't justify them losing.

2. They have been booked so fucking shit and people don't care.

3. They have been presented like shit and people don't care. I thought the look was jarring at first, and that could be a good way to get them noticed. Nope. I was wrong, and the blue sucked shit. Makes them seem just happy to be around.

4. The Freebird dynamic is annoying me for some reason. They needed a heel group to feud with, but there was none around. The varying combinations makes it hard to get behind any particular two guys, and it's kind of heelish.

I could have been OK with them being in there, but I would have had them lose and turn heel afterwards. Or turn on each other and end that failed experiment. If you turn The New Day as a group, Kofi and Big E work the Ladder Match; if you break them up, Kofi & Woods do the stunts.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:34 PM
Oh shit, the Ladder Match is actually official?

Tazz Dan
02-26-2015, 09:35 PM
Oh shit, the Ladder Match is actually official?

Yeah, I got a notification from the WWE app earlier :y:

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:38 PM
Bad News Barrett
Dean Ambrose
Dolph Ziggler
Kofi Kingston
Sheamus
Kane (because someone needs to represent The Authority)
Jack Swagger (hey, he's a really good worker, can add to some power spots and won a MITB match before)
Finn Balor (because I can see even Vince McMahon jizzing at his WrestleMania entrance)

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:40 PM
Actually, take out Kane and have Chris Jericho enter. OH YEAH, BABYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:40 PM
Greatest Intercontinental Champion of all-time entering a Ladder Match at WrestleMania makes sense.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:41 PM
That leaves Cesaro/Kidd and The Usos to have a straight-forward tag match. Either that or The Ascension/New Day and The Prime Time Players will get involved. Or Naomi and Natalya will be in there officially. I kind of just want to see a straight-forward match. They're building up to it nicely.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:42 PM
I've now decided I really want Luke Harper in that IC Title Ladder Match too.

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:44 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/GuyInGreenWWE">@GuyInGreenWWE</a> It's between <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECesaro">@WWECesaro</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/LukeHarperWWE">@LukeHarperWWE</a></p>&mdash; John Cena (@JohnCena) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/571043610579177472">February 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:47 PM
I'd mark out if Cesaro did what he did last year, and sneaks into the Ladder Match at the last minute and wins the whole thing. :D

Mr. Nerfect
02-26-2015, 09:56 PM
Actually, if he and Kidd lose the Tag Titles to The Usos (good bet), then I'd like to see Cesaro repeat win the Battle Royal. Seems more likely that it'll be going to Sheamus or Ryback, depending on who doesn't enter the Ladder Match, but I'd mark out for the Battle Royal coming down between Cesaro and Sami Zayn or something.

Wishbone
02-26-2015, 10:04 PM
Part of a longer article regarding Vince going all out with Reigns, Bryan's depressing star future, and the WWE being hell bent on defeating the fans this year. Link to the article below.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2x6e60/dave_meltzer_but_the_biggest_story_on_fast_lane/

After reading this I'm genuinely depressed now... Like I've been losing interest in WWE for a while now and this just kinda pushed me over the edge, and not just the Bryan stuff. Undertaker's streak being over never really hit me until now. We've literally lost the most important prize in all of wrestling and the "payoff" is pretty much bust. We like to throw around "end of an era" as a joke 'round here, but honestly it really is. The pro-wrestling most of us grew up on is dead forever... Fuck... I'm gonna go cry now, guys. :'(

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-26-2015, 10:21 PM
If they play up the fact that being the IC Champion is the stepping stool to the WWE Championship it will work out great. Basically they should play up that fact hard that winning it is a essentially being the number one contender. Essentially it needs to come off like being Money in the Bank when they did it yearly at WrestleMania.

Dark One
02-26-2015, 10:53 PM
After reading this I'm genuinely depressed now... Like I've been losing interest in WWE for a while now and this just kinda pushed me over the edge, and not just the Bryan stuff. Undertaker's streak being over never really hit me until now. We've literally lost the most important prize in all of wrestling and the "payoff" is pretty much bust. We like to throw around "end of an era" as a joke 'round here, but honestly it really is. The pro-wrestling most of us grew up on is dead forever... Fuck... I'm gonna go cry now, guys. :'(

If Daniel Bryan becomes the new Hacksaw Jim Duggan, I will be done forever.

Lock Jaw
02-27-2015, 12:08 AM
If they play up the fact that being the IC Champion is the stepping stool to the WWE Championship it will work out great. Basically they should play up that fact hard that winning it is a essentially being the number one contender. Essentially it needs to come off like being Money in the Bank when they did it yearly at WrestleMania.

They constantly play up how prestigious the IC title is.

Problem is is that they have booked it, and the mid-card, like garbage for so long that people just won't buy the title as a "legit".

What they really need to do is give it to one guy and let him hold it for a long time. I'm talking more than a year, here. I was hoping that after Survivor Series that man would have been Dolph Ziggler. Who The Authority would constantly make defend his title, but Ziggler would always come out on top. After a year of holding the belt, and defeating all challenges, both him and the belt would have looked aces.

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-27-2015, 12:32 AM
What's wrong with me that the most compelling storyline to me is Seth Rollins Vs. Jon Stewart?

Dark One
02-27-2015, 12:42 AM
They constantly play up how prestigious the IC title is.

Problem is is that they have booked it, and the mid-card, like garbage for so long that people just won't buy the title as a "legit".

What they really need to do is give it to one guy and let him hold it for a long time. I'm talking more than a year, here. I was hoping that after Survivor Series that man would have been Dolph Ziggler. Who The Authority would constantly make defend his title, but Ziggler would always come out on top. After a year of holding the belt, and defeating all challenges, both him and the belt would have looked aces.

I'm 100% sure now that the longstanding complaint that WWE doesn't know how to build new stars is incorect, or at least not entirely correct.

The real problem is that they refuse to use the new stars they lucked into. Bryan and Ziggler and Ambrose were/are all incredibly over. They've all been shoved back down the card because fuck you that's why.

They're not hurting for people that are over and that the crowd is invested in. They're hurting the people that are over and that the crowd is invested in.

Lock Jaw
02-27-2015, 12:47 AM
What's wrong with me that the most compelling storyline to me is Seth Rollins Vs. Jon Stewart?

Speaking of which

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Dark One
02-27-2015, 12:53 AM
I really don't want Seth Rollins to be stuck doing something with Jon Stewart as his Wrestlemania segment, but this is the sort of "mainstream" exposure I can get behind. It's fun, not really detracting from the guy or show--assuming it doesn't become Rollins' Wrestlemania thing--and it's not being treated like a joke in the process.

Tom Guycott
02-27-2015, 01:20 AM
I'm 100% sure now that the longstanding complaint that WWE doesn't know how to build new stars is incorect, or at least not entirely correct.

The real problem is that they refuse to use the new stars they lucked into. Bryan and Ziggler and Ambrose were/are all incredibly over. They've all been shoved back down the card because fuck you that's why.

They're not hurting for people that are over and that the crowd is invested in. They're hurting the people that are over and that the crowd is invested in.

This.

I still sigh wistfully when I think that about this time, Ziggler vs. Kofi for a number one contender match for the WWE Championship would not only be not farfetched, but thought of as totally legit AND would tear the goddamn house down. They always create magic when they oppose eachother, and that could have been used to elevate the prestige of the Intercontinental Championship, and later on, the main event picture.

Instead, they insisted on repeatedly yanking the rug out from under Dolph, and Kingston keeps getting shoved into tag teams (Sydal, Truth, New Day...) instead of letting him shine as a singles competitor somewhere other than his requisite battle royal anti-elimination spot.

That picture a few years back with "the future" could have been attainable and believable if actually expounded upon. Too much emphasis placed on "Punk whining" and "Bourne smoking weed" and not enough focus on the fact that WWE kinda stopped pushing (or in the case of Ryder, never really got behind IN SPITE of his popularity) the majority of them.

Emperor Smeat
02-27-2015, 01:30 AM
Mania's poster that's been going around the internet recently (hasn't been confirmed yet by the WWE):

http://i.imgur.com/yM5dHGd.jpg

Lock Jaw
02-27-2015, 01:34 AM
Ranked in order of importance

SlickyTrickyDamon
02-27-2015, 02:59 AM
Bray the guy who has to do all the work for the build to the match isn't even in the poster.

#1-norm-fan
02-27-2015, 07:41 AM
Jon Stewart should wrestle Seth Rollins at WrestleMania because attention.

Vastardikai
02-27-2015, 11:04 AM
Would anyone oppose Seth Rollins vs. Daniel Bryan (with John Stewart in his corner)

Rammsteinmad
02-27-2015, 11:36 AM
Absolutely not! Not only would it be a fantastic match, along with having mainstream attention, but it would help keep Bryan in the main event level.

Simple Fan
02-27-2015, 11:56 AM
Would anyone oppose Seth Rollins vs. Daniel Bryan (with John Stewart in his corner)

I'd be for it if Orton got put in the main event. Would seem fair he lost it in a 3 way and never got a rematch.

Dark One
02-27-2015, 12:49 PM
Absolutely not! Not only would it be a fantastic match, along with having mainstream attention, but it would help keep Bryan in the main event level.

This is now my last, best hope.

Lock Jaw
02-27-2015, 12:53 PM
I wouldn't like it because Rollins' obvious story is with Orton.

I would like it because it would mean Daniel Bryan actually had a story for Mania and wasn't just tossed into an IC Title multi-match.

Rammsteinmad
02-27-2015, 01:23 PM
Yeah, that's why it's not happening. Orton and Rollins is pretty much set.

Emperor Smeat
02-27-2015, 02:47 PM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/b001ba173533f05a8e2545e6b650a707/tumblr_nkdakhK8nX1taae7xo1_540.gif

Seth82
02-27-2015, 03:01 PM
lol

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SlickyTrickyDamon
02-27-2015, 08:56 PM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/b001ba173533f05a8e2545e6b650a707/tumblr_nkdakhK8nX1taae7xo1_540.gif

Talk about WWE Crush Hour. Amirite.

Droford
02-27-2015, 09:46 PM
Should have Crush's head instead of the word crush

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 10:00 PM
I kind of hope that Rusev is accidentally turned face just by crushing people.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 10:01 PM
I've come to accept that Daniel Bryan will be part of the Intercontinental Title Ladder Match. On the bright side, he's got a very good chance of winning and becoming a world-beating Intercontinental Champion. They might even play up him being the first person to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship (as if it were a new title), Intercontinental Title, US Title and Tag Titles -- the new era's first Grand Slam Champion.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 10:03 PM
Can't decide whether I want Sheamus in the IC Title Ladder Match or not. He seems like a good pick to win the Battle Royal right now. I'm leaning towards Ladder Match. I'm also hoping that Finn Balor earns a spot and gets to do a grand WrestleMania entrance. He probably won't win the match, but it'd be an impressive way to make a debut.

Bad News Barrett vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. R-Truth vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus vs. Finn Balor

I'm fine with that. Bryan, Ambrose, Ziggler and Barrett should all be doing bigger stuff, but I guess it's fine. My interest level for this is already greater than anything else on the card.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:00 PM
I'm now REALLY hoping for Nikki Bella vs. Paige vs. Emma for the Divas Title at WrestleMania.

After the #GiveDivasAChance movement, I think they have to give the girls something a little meatier than a throwaway segment at WrestleMania. I can't see them wanting to give AJ Lee the spotlight, after she has spoken out. I can't see them calling up Charlotte to put the title on her just yet, and I can't see them doing a tag team match with The Bellas facing Paige & Charlotte -- just because it doesn't feel "big" enough right now. I think the best thing they can do is give Emma some redemption, allow Triple H to handle her creative direction heading into WrestleMania, and putting her in a Triple Threat against Nikki and Paige. Brie will be a heel at ringside to run interference, and she costs both Paige and Emma the title at separate intervals. The face girls then beat her up to a large pop. Nikki takes over and gets very close two counts on both her challengers. They do a Tower of Doom spot, and all that jazz. Nikki even Rack Attacks both girls at the same time. She acts like she's the greatest thing that ever happened...but only gets two after some showboating. She then covers Emma...but still only gets two. The final sequence sees Paige in the ring with Nikki, and she manages to counter a Guillotine Choke into a RamPaige. Brie breaks up the pin and then gets the Divas Title, she goes to blast Paige with it, but nails Nikki instead. A superkick from Paige allows her to send Brie out of the ring, then put Nikki in the PTO -- and Nikki taps out. Emma makes it back into the ring and hugs Paige, holding up the arm of the three-time Divas Champion...then attacks her from behind. She puts Paige in the Emma Lock as officials come in and break it up. There's your next main Divas story.

Shisen Kopf
02-27-2015, 11:03 PM
In a titty honking match right?

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:04 PM
For Rusev vs. Cena, I'm hoping that Cena adds some drama to this match by putting his career on the line. It'd make sense, given that Lana and Rusev don't want to give him another shot. Cena could goad them by giving Rusev a shot to be the one to say he did it -- he was the one who put Cena down for good.

Rusev's own greed would be the device which destroys him. It becomes almost a parable, as Rusev could have walked off with the championship and the Fastlane win -- but his ego and arrogance allowed him to be defeated. Have an Attitude Adjustment from the second rope be what puts him down.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:04 PM
In a titty honking match right?

I know it is RassleMania, but you have to save the good gimmicks for Extreme Rules.

Fignuts
02-27-2015, 11:08 PM
I've come to accept that Daniel Bryan will be part of the Intercontinental Title Ladder Match. On the bright side, he's got a very good chance of winning and becoming a world-beating Intercontinental Champion. They might even play up him being the first person to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship (as if it were a new title), Intercontinental Title, US Title and Tag Titles -- the new era's first Grand Slam Champion.

This is the only way I'd be happy about this. I've been saying for a long time now that to restore the IC title to it's former glory, you need to have a guy win it, and hold it for like a full year.

Right now it means less than nothing. Especially with Barrett fucking losing all the time. The IC champ should be a big fucking deal. Even more so now that there is only one world title. He should rarely, if ever lose, even in non title matches.

Fignuts
02-27-2015, 11:09 PM
That won't happen tho. Bryan will win, hold it for a couple months then lose it to adam rose or something.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:09 PM
To turn up the interest in the Wyatt vs. Undertaker match, I hope that they give Taker some connection to Sister Abigail. But the edge must favor Wyatt. I'm not sure what connection -- Heyman (the poster here) could probably come up with something good -- but I'm thinking something that ties their legacies together.

Maybe she has some connection to the urn? She could have been the one who crafted it? Or maybe she has an early connection to The Undertaker? Maybe she wandered Death Valley looking for him and found Bray Wyatt instead? Something in that realm to raise this beyond "I want to fight you!"

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:11 PM
Jim Ross said it well when he asked why a company would want one title to mean less than another.

Fignuts
02-27-2015, 11:12 PM
How much better would this whole Wyatt vs Taker Feud be, if the streak was still intact? I've always been in the "streak should never end" camp, but I think I would have been OKAY with Wyatt ending the streak if built up properly.

If they were going to end it, he would have been the perfect guy to do it.

Fignuts
02-27-2015, 11:15 PM
Jim Ross said it well when he asked why a company would want one title to mean less than another.

Yeah, he said that at the NJ PPV about their IC title which even main evented over the the world title at one event. They've done a phenomenal job with that title, and lo and behold, a big part of that is because one guy has carried the title for long stretches and made it mean something by holding on to it.

Seth82
02-27-2015, 11:18 PM
Here's the 30 for 30 short doc on The Von Erich's

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Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:24 PM
Every person in that Ladder Match needs to record a promo where they talk about what the IC Title means to them. If you don't air them all, cool, but every character needs to have a reason for wanting it.

* Bad News Barrett could have been in the audience when Davey Boy Smith and Bret Hart fought over the title in the main event of SummerSlam 1992, when he was just 11 years old. That could have been the moment that made him want to be a fighter.

* Dean Ambrose has made his position pretty clear.

* Dolph Ziggler can show off as champion. His hard work, his effort, his ability -- it is all displayed in the Intercontinental Division, because it attracts the hungriest young men -- young men like him -- who want to prove themselves worthy of the top spot. And being the champion means he's hungrier; he's better than all of them.

* R-Truth has been training since 1997. When he first got into a wrestling ring, Owen Hart was the Intercontinental Champion. When he was scouting the competition, Stone Cold Steve Austin won his first Intercontinental Championship. Truth saw Triple H and The Rock fight in a Ladder Match at SummerSlam 1998, and that was it. "One day, I am going to be the Intercontinental Champion. I am going to be that good. That is what I was working towards every day of my life, so I didn't have to go back to prison. So I didn't have to be nothing."

* Daniel Bryan is addicted to the feeling of being the best. He may not be the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, but he will be a champion. And he will fight harder and better than any other champion in the WWE. Any other champion in the world. People will look at him and say "That's the sort of champion I want to be."

* Luke Harper tasted the money and the attention the Intercontinental Title brought him. He didn't like all the eyes on him, but he never felt like he had a...home before. The IC Title is his home. When he's the champion, he gets punched in the face harder. When he's the champion, he gets to punch people in the face harder. There's no home for people like Harper unless he's got that title.

* Finn Balor has the chance to step onto the grandest stage of them all, and he gets to do what only one other person has ever done -- win the Intercontinental Title in his first match. Few men have debuted at WrestleMania, and no one has debuted at WrestleMania and left with a title. Balor gets to make history. He gets to become immortal night one.

Fignuts
02-27-2015, 11:25 PM
Wouldn't they go with Neville before Balor? Haven't been watching NXT, so I don't know.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:25 PM
Yeah, he said that at the NJ PPV about their IC title which even main evented over the the world title at one event. They've done a phenomenal job with that title, and lo and behold, a big part of that is because one guy has carried the title for long stretches and made it mean something by holding on to it.

I don't necessarily think that the title can't change hands a lot and mean something -- but the stories need to be right. The guys need to actually want it. I hate it when a guy loses an IC Title match and is just like "Okay. Well it looks like it's the US Title for me." The IC Title should be life and death to some personalities.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:26 PM
Wouldn't they go with Neville before Balor? Haven't been watching NXT, so I don't know.

Neville is main roster ready and the next logical call-up: I just want to see Balor's entrance at WrestleMania. If they want spectacle, then Balor would be a good choice. But then again, Neville will no doubt do something in the Ladder Match that will make some people fans for life.

Mr. Nerfect
02-27-2015, 11:58 PM
I've got this weird feeling that the Dudley Boyz are going to be working at WrestleMania. This stuff between The Ascension and The Prime Time Players is getting them all on TV, but it doesn't really feel "heavy" enough for the main card. And I can see them trying to keep a lot of tag teams out of the Battle Royal, because it just makes sense that they would all work together.

Got this odd feeling that they might do The Dudleys vs. The PTP vs. The Ascension in a Tables Elimination Match or something. It'll be snappy enough for Mania, provide some "spotz," gives The Ascension at least on WrestleMania appearance and could be used to "crown" the PTP.

Fignuts
02-28-2015, 12:00 AM
Totally forgot about bubba. Has there been any updates of him coming back full time? Really would love to see Bully Ray in WWE. Dude worked for so long to improve his craft, and actually succeeded. Deserves to have that character in the spotlight.

Mr. Nerfect
02-28-2015, 12:01 AM
I haven't heard anything, but he's obviously got a healthy enough working relationship with the WWE. If there's money to be made with them, you bet your bottom dollar they'll be back.