"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I say Harper to NJPW. He would make the vanilla midgets in AEW look even worse.

[GD]

I say Harper to NJPW. He would make the vanilla midgets in AEW look even worse.

Very edgy, Slicky.

[Droford]

Vince was trending on Twitter cause some soccer player imitated his strut as a celebration and people thought Vince was dead

[Black Widow]

Wish Noam Dar had gotten a better main roster run


https://i.postimg.cc/0yP2bf0v/MV5-BOTg2-MDQ1-Y2-It-ZGQ5-OS00-Nj-Yw-LWJi-Yjct-ZTdi-Yzgx-Mj-Q5-YWM1-Xk-Ey-Xk-Fqc-Gde.jpgLooks like a Backstreet Boy.

[Jordan]

Brodie Lee to NJPW confirmed speculation by me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

* Harper to New Japan/AEW (a Mox/Jericho type deal).

* Teddy Hart to NXT.

* The Ascension to the NWA.

* Sin Cara to AEW.

[GD]

I don't know much about Teddy Hart. I've heard that he did not live up to his full potential because of his personality. I should probably check out the thread Slik posted.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

* Harper to New Japan/AEW (a Mox/Jericho type deal).

* Teddy Hart to NXT.

* The Ascension to the NWA.

* Sin Cara to AEW.

Teddy Hart to Jail.

[Volare]

I don't know much about Teddy Hart. I've heard that he did not live up to his full potential because of his personality. I should probably check out the thread Slik posted.

I heard he likes weed and cats.

[Nicky Fives]

0 chance Teddy Hart goes to NXT. He's too old and "unpredictable" to fit into that system. Unpredictable is polite for bat-shit crazy....

[Jordan]

I don't see Teddy getting a legit contract with any promotion anytime soon.

[Jordan]

* Harper to New Japan/AEW (a Mox/Jericho type deal).

* Teddy Hart to NXT.

* The Ascension to the NWA.

* Sin Cara to AEW.

Brodie Lee was seen in an instagram with Marty Scurl. Would it be possible that ROH has made a play for them to stay relevant? Also consider that maybe WWE gave Brodie Lee a clause where they will release him if he doesn't sign with AEW or NJPW. It could be the case. If it is, ROH is probably the destination.

I've been 100% convinced Marty goes to AEW, but I am more like 90% sure on that now. ROH seems to be putting themselves in the wrestling media more and more in regard to the drama that's been said about them. Joe Koff making some statements here and there. I don't think ROH is "folding up" as a lot of people are thinking.

Brodie Lee would make good money with a big ROH offer and also work with their partner CMLL. He's trademarked his old name, I think he's going to go full Bruiser Brody on the wrestling world. That's why I would be cool with and ROH/CMLL deal. Even though my preference for Brodie would be to sign a full time deal with NJPW and be one of the main event talents for NJPW of America.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How I picture <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> in Garland/Dallas this week..<br>(Brought to life by <a href="https://twitter.com/RetroRandyPrice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@retrorandyprice</a>) Join us in TX Wednesday via <a href="https://t.co/jXHDjigQLE">https://t.co/jXHDjigQLE</a> or live on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aewontnt</a>! <a href="https://t.co/zHgL4NpFRo">pic.twitter.com/zHgL4NpFRo</a></p>&mdash; Justin Roberts (@JustinRoberts) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinRoberts/status/1204107776756047873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Ryan Clark sighting on Twitter


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's on my twitter bio you lazy dope <a href="https://t.co/zij0svWW2W">https://t.co/zij0svWW2W</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1204274607261454336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah I remember when that didn't happen. <a href="https://t.co/5A3f6v27G1">https://t.co/5A3f6v27G1</a> <a href="https://t.co/xzVW8rlLJq">pic.twitter.com/xzVW8rlLJq</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1204279152649670656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How I picture <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> in Garland/Dallas this week..<br>(Brought to life by <a href="https://twitter.com/RetroRandyPrice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@retrorandyprice</a>) Join us in TX Wednesday via <a href="https://t.co/jXHDjigQLE">https://t.co/jXHDjigQLE</a> or live on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aewontnt</a>! <a href="https://t.co/zHgL4NpFRo">pic.twitter.com/zHgL4NpFRo</a></p>&mdash; Justin Roberts (@JustinRoberts) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinRoberts/status/1204107776756047873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is amazing

[GD]

That's some good shit.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">if you’ve ever watched WWE and thought these people look like robots, this reddit answer by TJP kinda tells you you’re right. cause they are <a href="https://t.co/j7qt7hDRvd">pic.twitter.com/j7qt7hDRvd</a></p>&mdash; john (@toshanshuinLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/toshanshuinLA/status/1204242616969240576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Matches going quickly into a headlock or rest hold almost right after it starts is one of the biggest things I've hated for years about WWE style matches.

[slik]

same

[Ultra Mantis]

WWE is essentially just Vince playing with his real life action figures.

[GD]

I recently learned about Vince's disturbing past. I am not as angry about his presentation as I was before.

[Droford]

Wellness violations are back. Roode and Primo 30 days

[Emperor Smeat]

Would explain why Reigns destroyed him 2 weeks ago on Smackdown. It did feel as if he was getting written out either due to injury or them suddenly changing plans.

[Seanny One Ball]

I recently learned about Vince's disturbing past. I am not as angry about his presentation as I was before.


Vince was raised in one of "those" pornos. Everybody knows it.

[erickman]

Wellness violations are back. Roode and Primo 30 days

how come primo did not get house cleaned sunday

[Emperor Smeat]

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<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/377681977">Botchamania 400</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user101654169">Matthew Gregg</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't know Primo still worked there.....

Also, I finally found out the "Primo" is Spanish for "cousin"........ It's like they were all "Hey what should we call Carlito's cousin? You guys all fine with just calling him cousin?"

[Lock Jaw]

Oh wait.... Primo is Carlito's brother, and Epico is the cousin. This makes even less sense now. Like they thought Primo was Epico all along.

[Tom Guycott]

Didn't know Primo still worked there.....

Also, I finally found out the "Primo" is Spanish for "cousin"........ It's like they were all "Hey what should we call Carlito's cousin? You guys all fine with just calling him cousin?"

Oh wait.... Primo is Carlito's brother, and Epico is the cousin. This makes even less sense now. Like they thought Primo was Epico all along.

Didn't they hire Epico first, though? I mean of the two. I might be misremembering, but didn't they have other plans for Epico? Then, they just kinda threw Primo and Epico together as a team after shit got fucky with Carlito? I think Poor Primo was a bit of an afterthought.

Also, what you said about him even still working there. I thought they were both released. I thought I made a joke about it somewhere around here about them not having a website with a timer like JTG did.

Then again, they always seem to be "released", and always seem to have a job in WWE. Maybe them being let go is the new "Ultimate Warrior is dead" rumor?

[Seanny One Ball]

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[Seanny One Ball]

That video quickly loses its way

[Bad News Gertner]

Didn't they hire Epico first, though? I mean of the two. I might be misremembering, but didn't they have other plans for Epico? Then, they just kinda threw Primo and Epico together as a team after shit got fucky with Carlito? I think Poor Primo was a bit of an afterthought.

Also, what you said about him even still working there. I thought they were both released. I thought I made a joke about it somewhere around here about them not having a website with a timer like JTG did.

Then again, they always seem to be "released", and always seem to have a job in WWE. Maybe them being let go is the new "Ultimate Warrior is dead" rumor?

Primo was first

[Emperor Smeat]

Either WWE has some big plans for a potential WCW revival or their pettiness towards Cody and AEW has reached a new level.

They recently trademarked a ton of old WCW trademarks that they had abandoned years ago solely due to neglect and Vince's lingering pettiness towards WCW. Probably got tired of being made to look foolish after MLW managed to get the rights to War Games and Cody with Dusty created NWA & WCW ideas under their noses.

Also have been trying to get all of the WCW trademarks Cody filed rejected and given to them instead.

[Bad News Gertner]

R.I.P former wrestler and WWE agent Rene Goulet

[Seanny One Ball]

Never had a fun match

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/gklypsB.png

[Bad News Gertner]

What's "Worzel"

[GD]

Was watching Goldberg's Chronicle episode and he seemed distant from Hunter.

[Seanny One Ball]

What's "Worzel"

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/7FB8/production/_100769623_pa-4441686.jpg
This is Worzel.

People keep editing Rene Goulet's Wikipedia page to include Worzel Gummidge as his ring name.
Apparently this has been a thing for years.

[Tom Guycott]

Primo was first

Hm. I was under the impression that Epico was down in Florida under a mask for a while before Primo was signed. I guess I stand corrected.

[LibSuperstar]

R.I.P former wrestler and WWE agent Rene Goulet

Apparently he had been deceased since May but word just spread.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Drank a bottle of whiskey at home alone last Wednesday! <br><br>Poor Hangman! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/PVIN4uIlsv">pic.twitter.com/PVIN4uIlsv</a></p>&mdash; Garrett Kidney (@garrettkidney) <a href="https://twitter.com/garrettkidney/status/1204945486370811904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Experiences Withdrawals When Separated From His Phone&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/42GyvHCDCc">pic.twitter.com/42GyvHCDCc</a></p>&mdash; GIF Skull - #AEWDynamite (@GIFSkull) <a href="https://twitter.com/GIFSkull/status/1204954070131204096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

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[GD]

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_l/public/all/2019/12/Braun_08112019CA_0001-1--aecfc89a1a919f8b4b082946c69b53f9.jpg

[GD]

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[Seanny One Ball]

Which one would you kiss and which one would you kill?

[Black Widow]

I wouldnt touch Rusev so i'd choose Braun.

[GD]

Rewatching this year's Rumble...feeling emotional over appearances by Styles and Sênor Joe.

[Seanny One Ball]

You're a hot mess

[Evil Vito]

https://i.imgur.com/ewfeYXG.jpg

A young <s>Jake Hager</s>
<s>Jack Swagger</s>
<s>Jake Strong</s>

Erick Rowan :eek:

[Seanny One Ball]

How small is his head?!

He's like a reverse dwarf, huge body with a tiny wee head.

[Seanny One Ball]

It's like if Brundle had been genetically spliced with a toddler instead of a fly

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Teddy Hart made some threats towards MLW that could have resulted in cops getting involved.

After he got released, he threatened to show up at MLW's Opera Cup event last week but the tone of his threat was enough for MLW to threaten legal action against him if he did.

Despite requesting his release, when MLW did release him on December 5, he reportedly threatened to show up at MLW’s Opera Cup show that day in Queens, according to Dave Meltzer, which led to MLW CEO Court Bauer saying that he’d call the police if Hart showed up “because of concerns with what he had been saying.” Hart did not come to the show.

[Emperor Smeat]

Also Meltzer reported in this week's Newsletter that more signs point to Marty Scurll not signing a new deal with ROH and signing with AEW instead.

Regarding Marty Scurll, obviously from the BTE tease (and some would say the Jericho tease although “Marty” in his list of guys he wouldn’t defend against could mean a number of different things), the betting line would be AEW. What we do know is that he’s agreed to at least one indie date that both sides have agreed to keep secret for now, but that deal would indicate right now he’s not planning on renewing here. He also posted a photo of himself with Luke Harper with the idea of them being the Villain Club. Scurll owns the rights to the Villain Club name. The indie group he’s working with would not be allowed generally speaking if he signed a new ROH contract, but he’d probably be able to do it for now with an AEW deal

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer Newsletter, NXT is losing their over-run advantage over AEW starting next month and could potentially be permanent after the next season of Miz & Mrs ends.

For some reference, NXT usually averages between 150k-200k for the over-run and is usually worth an extra several thousand viewers for the overall average. Only really hurts them in the 50+ demo since that usually is the bulk of those viewers.

The next season of Miz & Mrs. on USA will debut on 1/29. It will air on Wednesdays at 10 p.m., after NXT. That may mean an end to the overrun. Another key is how the ratings hold up as Miz & Mrs. popularity was from following Smackdown and a wrestling audience of 2.1 million, as opposed to NXT with an audience of maybe 35 percent of that

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on some recent data crunching, WWE is currently estimated to finally break even from their lost PPV revenues caused by the WWE Network by 2025.

The numbers don't factor in other revenue areas like digital fees and tv related rights that would sway the estimates and just focuses on the impact the Network had on WWE's old PPV market.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The estimate referenced on WOR when I said the WWE Network hasn't yet recovered the opportunity cost of foregoing PPV for SVOD, as of Aug 2019. <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davemeltzerWON</a> wrote about this in the latest WON. Actually years away. <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wrestlenomics</a><br><br>Check math here: <a href="https://t.co/vPMcJaAPPI">https://t.co/vPMcJaAPPI</a> <a href="https://t.co/vVbW4SfYs9">pic.twitter.com/vVbW4SfYs9</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1204457749419110401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2025 by this estimate, again not counting TV rights effects, digital PPV and home video. See the wide green area of the screenshot.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1204460754667266048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Bad News Gertner]

Bought this Bulldogs t shirt off Pro Wrestling Tees to add to my vast collection

https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/500x500/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/b/r/britishbulldog1015_1.png

[Jordan]

Nice purchase

[Bad News Gertner]

R.I.P Moondog Rex.

The Moondogs were an awesome tag team.

[Droford]

Also Meltzer reported in this week's Newsletter that more signs point to Marty Scurll not signing a new deal with ROH and signing with AEW instead.

Welll he showed up at the end of NWAs ppv so he's not going straight to AEW. Seems like there's at least going to be a feud with Aldis

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably the secret promotion Meltzer mentioned in the Newsletter since it would fit in regards to his indies booking being at a place ROH wouldn't approve if he was signed.

NWA did cut all ties with ROH several months ago due to some money and/or streaming related issues with ROH's Honor Club service I believe.

[erickman]

marty can do nwa till broody lee is cleared from his 90 day and go in togather to aew.

[Bad News Gertner]

Nice purchase

It's going to feud in my closet with my Dream Team shirt.

[#1-norm-fan]

Man, that joke just made me really sad.

[Lock Jaw]

Just read that they are taping two episodes of RAW today and thought "oh... all those poor people"

[Sixx]

Man, that joke just made me really sad.

Thought for sure this is a Guru Dave post.

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com/s4pVJNp.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

God, SmackDown looks gorgeous. I know it’s not a good show, but it looks amazing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Had no clue Nakamura got a new belt.

[Sixx]

https://i.imgur.com/s4pVJNp.gif

Sad thjing is, the shit WWE does nowadays, this might have been planned.

[XL]

Had no clue Nakamura got a new belt.
I completely forgot that this happened.

[Tom Guycott]

https://i.imgur.com/s4pVJNp.gif

"Hey Scott... I fell!!!"

Sad thjing is, the shit WWE does nowadays, this might have been planned.

No, the sad thing is that WWE would be very likely to try to force this as a thing instead of a one-off accidental goof.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/U89wRiacAH">pic.twitter.com/U89wRiacAH</a></p>&mdash; jaosn (@iLikeJason_) <a href="https://twitter.com/iLikeJason_/status/1206505264859557888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

Now do one where he turns into Luchasaurus

[Sixx]

Dude can't even type his own name right.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On this day last year (12/17/18), the McMahon family stood in the ring and explained that things were going to change. <br><br>That night the RAW overall viewership averaged 2.55M up from the week prior's record-low 2.19M. <br><br>Last night, RAW averaged 2.05M. <a href="https://t.co/Hh46CAEYfz">https://t.co/Hh46CAEYfz</a></p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1207058215210541057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Droford]

Nathan Jones is playing Shao Kahn in the new Mortal Kombat movie

[Seanny One Ball]

I hope he does a comedy Asian accent then

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nathan Jones is playing Shao Kahn in the new Mortal Kombat movie

That's a pretty big role for the dude.

[GD]

That's a pretty big role for the dude.

Wasn't he in Mad Max: Fury Road? He's appeared in Indian movies as well.

[Seanny One Ball]

He was also in Troy, The Condemned and I think Ong Bak. He beats up an elephant in it.

[Seanny One Ball]

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[GD]

Alexa :yes:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheGoddess?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheGoddess</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexaBliss_WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlexaBliss_WWE</a> has a response. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEBackstage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEBackstage</a> <a href="https://t.co/P5zdUcRG6c">https://t.co/P5zdUcRG6c</a> <a href="https://t.co/Cu7uEzVB7q">pic.twitter.com/Cu7uEzVB7q</a></p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1207164581337894912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Volare]

Happy Midweek.

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[Evil Vito]

Tracy Smothers has lymphoma :(

[Gerard]

I hope he does a comedy Asian accent then

That's Shang Tsung. :p

[Seanny One Ball]

Even so, a comical Oriental voice on a hulking great beast of a white bloke is just what MK needs.

[Seanny One Ball]

Tracy Smothers has lymphoma :(


Fuck!

[Vastardikai]

Tracy Smothers has lymphoma :(

May he kick Cancer's ass like it is a bear.

[Emperor Smeat]

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Forgot how generic the early lead commentator of NXT was compared to Mauro.

Except for Mauro, all of WWE's commentators have almost the exact same style of delivery for calls and big moments. The Micheal Cole branch of commentary really is the worst when it comes to making big moments feel special and genuine.

[GD]

They muted Ambrose’s name. Typical.

[Gerard]

They muted Ambrose’s name. Typical.

So they mute his wwe character name but keep him in the video....wut? :wtf: Might have made sense had he been using his real name but he wasn't.

[Simple Fan]

Impact finally released Killer Kross.

[Emperor Smeat]

Someone on r/SquaredCircle compiled a list of the Top 100 wrestlers of the decade using Pro Wrestling Illustrated's yearly Top 500 rankings as the basis.

To show how busted and heavily pro-WWE leaning PWI's lists are, The Miz ended up being ranked as the 7th best wrestler of this decade.

AJ Styles took the top spot while Daniel Bryan took #17 despite missing 2016, 2017, and a chunk of 2018 due to concussions issues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ebxb9q/the_top_100_wrestlers_of_the_decade_according_to/

[Seanny One Ball]

Somebody needs to do that for the 90's

[Lock Jaw]

He did do it for the 90s, please read his posts

[Seanny One Ball]

That list clearly isn't for the 90's so either link it up or shut your hole

[Lock Jaw]

He linked to it in his post:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/dddmsz/the_top_100_wrestlers_of_each_decade_according_to/

#2 of the 90s def correct

[GD]

What an eventful NXT show. Props to that one wrestler who won.

[Seanny One Ball]

He linked to it in his post:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/dddmsz/the_top_100_wrestlers_of_each_decade_according_to/

#2 of the 90s def correct


Not a pretty list.

[DaveWadding]

He linked to it in his post:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/dddmsz/the_top_100_wrestlers_of_each_decade_according_to/

#2 of the 90s def correct

Jeff Jarrett at #12. :lol:

"Smashed a thousand guitars and never drew a dime" ~ Kevin Nash, I think.

[Vastardikai]

Mike Graham.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'd be more concerned by an obese useless degenerate like Abdullah being on that list.

Pretty outrageous.

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.imgur.com/0zgJv2S.jpg

[Droford]

Roman Reigns is wrestling a match during the Steve Harvey new Year's Eve special

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW commercial that aired before Lakers x Bucks. <a href="https://t.co/bV4ilHNu5e">pic.twitter.com/bV4ilHNu5e</a></p>&mdash; Italo Santana (@BulletClubIta) <a href="https://twitter.com/BulletClubIta/status/1207828763704283136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

That was kinda neat.

[Evil Vito]

https://i.imgur.com/s4pVJNp.gif

Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still not and still not. Period.</p>&mdash; Adam (Edge) Copeland (@EdgeRatedR) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdgeRatedR/status/1208022132577452033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Volare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still not and still not. Period.</p>&mdash; Adam (Edge) Copeland (@EdgeRatedR) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdgeRatedR/status/1208022132577452033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yep, him and Punk are coming back as a tag team.

[Bad News Gertner]

Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.

A Fabs spoof complete with music video would be amazing.

[slik]

Was chatting w a source who told me two matches WWE is considering for WM 36....


Tyson Fury vs. Brock Lesnar

Rey / Dominick / Cain Velasquez vs. Seth /AOP

[rez]

Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.

ugh:nono:

[Bad News Gertner]

Gotta do something with the vanilla midgets

[RP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="tl" dir="ltr">BAH GAWD! <a href="https://t.co/hAhz0Zdhgs">pic.twitter.com/hAhz0Zdhgs</a></p>&mdash; 90s WWE (@90sWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/90sWWE/status/1208110668756529153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orange Cassidy might be one of the silliest things in wrestling, but whether you love it or hate it, you can’t deny he’s over as hell. <br><br>LlSTEN TO THIS CROWD ���� <a href="https://t.co/IaupR0cnTi">pic.twitter.com/IaupR0cnTi</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1207367633793740801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Volare]

It pays to have a good lawyer.... USSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not guilty.

https://weartv.com/news/local/wwe-superstar-jimmy-uso-to-appear-in-court-for-dui-arrest?fbclid=IwAR22nLMTfRzwymM4v8LrmUjyP_S46lIGR47oDEUA9ivtlCnxA30P5Es8Ers

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently some sales numbers for the WWE 2K series were recently revealed as part of an on-going lawsuit involving copyright infringement claims regarding Randy Orton's tattoos in the games.

WWE 2K16, 2K17, and 2K18 averaged around 3.38 million copies sold while 2K20 is currently well below that pace.

In a lawsuit by the guy who did Orton’s tattoos, which were used in the WWE video games and he wanted a cut, it came out that between the 2016, 2017 and 2018 games, they sold a combined 10,143,602 units and grossed $418,692,256. That’s a per year average of 3.38 million units and $139,564,000 in total revenue. The numbers are way down this year due to the issues with this year’s game, but that shows the value of the WWE franchise in that market.

[Seanny One Ball]

So does WWE make its money from everything other than actual wrestling at this point?

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty much. TV deals and other rights deals have been carrying the company financially for a long while now.

Take out both and WWE probably is a lot closer to death of WCW range or upper indies range like NXT but without WWE's money subsidizing it.

[Droford]

The guy that did Orton's tattoos is going to ruin wrestlers getting tattoos. Vince ain't going to pay every tattoo artist that tattoos wrestlers

The tattoo guy also wasn't thinking big enough..he should be asking for a cut of ppv sales and network money

WWE have to go back and blur up Orton on the network like the wwf logo

[DaveWadding]

Randomly wondered onto an ROH show. Its Dinastia Munoz (RUSH & Dragon Lee) vs the Briscoes in a 60 man Iron Man match. Really excellent last 5 minutes.

[GD]

Have this vague memory of Ashley Massaro managing Londrick during their reign as WWE Tag Team Champions and the trio making their entrance to her music. This is closest thing I've been able to find.


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[GD]

I miss titantrons

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The guy that did Orton's tattoos is going to ruin wrestlers getting tattoos. Vince ain't going to pay every tattoo artist that tattoos wrestlers

The tattoo guy also wasn't thinking big enough..he should be asking for a cut of ppv sales and network money

WWE have to go back and blur up Orton on the network like the wwf logo

Droford, shutup

[Gerard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh what the fuck man!! Poor Dustin. It's TV!! I like AEW but seriously. What in the fucking fuck?! <a href="https://t.co/cZXfBUCvNY">pic.twitter.com/cZXfBUCvNY</a></p>&mdash; Brian Heffron aka The Blue Meanie (@BlueMeanieBWO) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueMeanieBWO/status/1208115923074371588?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:wtf:

[Bad News Gertner]

That's what happens when you learn flips instead of fundamentals

Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts

[Emperor Smeat]

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[slik]

When Ric Flair debuted Meltzer said people said Flair was ruining the bizness bc they were used to the boring stuff like headlocks and hammerlocks and thought Flair's wrestling style was 'over the top/cartoonish'.

Now Flair is the gold standard for many. Wouldn't surprise me if Ricochet and others who flip/kick often are not the gold standard in the future for many.

[slik]

#Bless the Sammy G

[Vastardikai]

That's what happens when you learn flips instead of fundamentals

Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts

I picture Orange Cassidy lasting 2 weeks in Mid-South. One week being his in ring funeral. Buzz Sawyer would eat him alive.

[Emperor Smeat]

David Bixenspan going hard after PWInsider after they once again joined in on the WWE dog pile against AEW and also for some recent digs they made towards Ryan Satin.

PWI in recent times have really become the Vince McMahon and/or WWE of wrestling journalism in terms of their pettiness and spitfulnessl towards others for even the smallest issues.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By the way, to be clear:<br><br>There’s a massive, massive distinction between someone having concerns about the implications of Ryan Satin’s Fox Sports/WWE Backstage job and taking massive cheap shots saying that the guy probably needs the money.<br><br>But it’s Dave Scherer, so…yeah.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1208529358777962497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, for the two guys who served as the faces of possibly the most ethically compromised wrestling news sites ever to exist to be the ones going so hard on this…glass houses etc etc.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1208530870732304387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Like when Meltzer is petty towards someone its either due to him arguing over some of the dumbest things possible or being goated by trolls to start arguments.

Satin can be pretty bad at times as well with stuff like that and even Fightful's Sapp but none of them compare to PWI's growing pettiness during the past year or two. Only reason PWI gets less backlash for their antics is due to them not really doing it on social media and instead mostly on their pay shows and terribly designed website.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I picture Orange Cassidy lasting 2 weeks in Mid-South. One week being his in ring funeral. Buzz Sawyer would eat him alive.

Buzz Sawyer was also a piece of dog shit and not really someone that should be a shining example of anything. I’ll take orange Cassidy over that fucking crook any day of the week.

[xrodmuc316]

Yep, him and Punk are coming back as a tag team.

The "we both banged Lita and Beth Phoenix bros".

Viking Raiders better watch out!

[Seanny One Ball]

That's what happens when you learn flips instead of fundamentals

Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts


Good rasslin in Mid South.

Real bad sexual politics though...

[Vastardikai]

Buzz Sawyer was also a piece of dog shit and not really someone that should be a shining example of anything. I’ll take orange Cassidy over that fucking crook any day of the week.

You are not wrong. He would eat him alive BECAUSE he's a piece of dogshit. I just didn't want to put him at a Butch Reed level.

[mike adamle]

Finally got my 9th row WrestleMania tickets in the mail. Anybody else going? Maybe I'll make a thread later after I'm done Christmas shopping to put up all the WrestleMania weekend info on.

[Bad News Gertner]

This just got posted on YouTube and holy fuck! I had no idea this was even a thing. Two of the bigger themes of the decade came from this. So cool!

WfIRBhpd3xU

[slik]

David Bixenspan going hard after PWInsider after they once again joined in on the WWE dog pile against AEW and also for some recent digs they made towards Ryan Satin.

PWI in recent times have really become the Vince McMahon and/or WWE of wrestling journalism in terms of their pettiness and spitfulnessl towards others for even the smallest issues.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By the way, to be clear:<br><br>There’s a massive, massive distinction between someone having concerns about the implications of Ryan Satin’s Fox Sports/WWE Backstage job and taking massive cheap shots saying that the guy probably needs the money.<br><br>But it’s Dave Scherer, so…yeah.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1208529358777962497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, for the two guys who served as the faces of possibly the most ethically compromised wrestling news sites ever to exist to be the ones going so hard on this…glass houses etc etc.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1208530870732304387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I honestly have no clue how that malware kingdom of a website is still even around at this point. I know Mike Johnson is good @ WWE scoops, though I get a kick out of him taking credit for all of them (I've never heard of him crediting Meltzer, Satin, Sapp, anyone else).


There's no way PWIinsider's base is anything but the plus 50 crowd who dominates WWE ratings.

[Emperor Smeat]

Supposedly the lack of sourcing is due to PWI viewing themselves as being above dirtsheet reporters and also being very stubborn when it comes to reporting news they can't break first. Also some real jealously and resentment towards the Observer and Meltzer that has gotten a lot worse over the past year or two.

Also wouldn't be surprised if they don't really have that many insider sources that are wrestler or Creative-based outside whatever WWE approves. The Saudi travel issue might have exposed that problem since they hesitated on reporting details and when they did, it was mostly just WWE's PR stance while also blaming wrestlers for "spreading rumors" which was Corey Graves stance on his podcast show.

[Tom Guycott]

Nathan Jones is playing Shao Kahn in the new Mortal Kombat movie

Wasn't he in Mad Max: Fury Road? He's appeared in Indian movies as well.

He was also in Troy, The Condemned and I think Ong Bak. He beats up an elephant in it.

That's a pretty big role for the dude.

Even bigger than getting his ass kicked by Michael Jai White in a movie. One of those Never Back Down flicks, I think. Or that other one where he got beat up by Donnie Yen. *

Pretty big step up from some Korean movie where he's a gentile giant, but suddenly can kick copious amounts of ass when he eats spicy food.


*Correction: It was Jet Li. I wasn't being racist, I thought I was thinking of a scene from one of the Ip Man movies, and I was thinking of Fearless. A quick minute of internet sleuthing cleared that up. Also, Nathan''s been in more movies than I thought. Good for him.

[Tom Guycott]

They muted Ambrose’s name. Typical.

So they mute his wwe character name but keep him in the video....wut? :wtf: Might have made sense had he been using his real name but he wasn't.

Which makes even less sense considering they dropped him into the name generator specifically so they can use the name Dean Ambrose with impunity. Why did they even bother?

[Tom Guycott]

Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.

"Hey Scott... I fell!!!"



No, the sad thing is that WWE would be very likely to try to force this as a thing instead of a one-off accidental goof.

Eh. Your revelation actually makes that worse.

And hilarously, they could scrub themselves clean with a trip to NWA or Japan. In fact, Japan with Mox would be a fantasy that lends credence to the assertion of the New Japan video package that insinuates that "Death Riders" being an actual group Moxley is a part of. And you add in his Japanese son to the mix, and you have... well, I was going to say four horsemen, but not in the trademarked throw your fingers up way, but in the "behold a pale rider..." way.

[Tom Guycott]

The "we both banged Lita and Beth Phoenix bros".

Viking Raiders better watch out!

That would make them "weiner cousins" (thanks, Todd n Tyler), and they should be referred to as kayfabe cousins as such... much like the three Hollys.

Wouldn't really be able to make that into a team name, though. Well, not one they could use. Then again, WWE did try to start a women's stable called "Submission Sorority" without doing like 30 seconds of investigation as to why that would be a very, very bad idea.

[Tom Guycott]

This just got posted on YouTube and holy fuck! I had no idea this was even a thing. Two of the bigger themes of the decade came from this. So cool!

WfIRBhpd3xU

Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of "Grab Them Cakes". I was one of those that was wondering what happened to him coming out to "Another One Bites The Dust". I was way too young to understand copyrights and whatnot back then.

[Bad News Gertner]

I agree. Another One Bites The Dust was WAY better.

Grab Them Cakes made him too cartoony

[DaveWadding]

That would make them "weiner cousins" (thanks, Todd n Tyler), and they should be referred to as kayfabe cousins as such... much like the three Hollys.

Wouldn't really be able to make that into a team name, though. Well, not one they could use. Then again, WWE did try to start a women's stable called "Submission Sorority" without doing like 30 seconds of investigation as to why that would be a very, very bad idea.

The Eskimo Bros

[GD]

Reminiscing some of Vince McMahon's terrible decisions from 2019. From announcing the Wild Card rule and immediately breaking the rules within the next hour of the show to the "no wrestling during commercials" shtick which led to a few weeks of "2-out-of-3" falls matches. Completely butchering Ambrose's heel turn from last year, stunting Seth Rollins' progress as a baby face champion and unnecessarily shoving Wyatt into the Universal title picture. It's also sad that Drew McIntyre hasn't won a major championship since the NXT world title.

[Tom Guycott]

Reminiscing some of Vince McMahon's terrible decisions from 2019. From announcing the Wild Card rule and immediately breaking the rules within the next hour of the show to the "no wrestling during commercials" shtick which led to a few weeks of "2-out-of-3" falls matches. Completely butchering Ambrose's heel turn from last year, stunting Seth Rollins' progress as a baby face champion and unnecessarily shoving Wyatt into the Universal title picture. It's also sad that Drew McIntyre hasn't won a major championship since the NXT world title.

Drew is sadly a perfect example of time and place not jiving. When he first got hired, Vince pushed him until he got bored. Then, he was left to languish. He became comedic jobber fodder. He got released. He was reborn in the fire of the indies... which made WWE come a-callin' again. Looked like he was getting a rocket up his ass. Now, he's just part of the toy collection.

Kinda wish he were on his release resurgence like now. It was fine when he was helping the European wrestling renaissance, but now? The man could be a hot ticket item for AEW or NJPW or NWA. Hell, I honestly even could see him as someone who could honestly be a helpful piece of the RoH roster to slow their apparent crumbling. Instead, WWE does what WWE does, and takes any interest and excitement and momentum built either by outside circumstance or even A PUSH THEY THEMSELVES START and just let the guy become background again in short order.

[Bad News Gertner]

If you have netflix you gotta watch "The Toys that Made Us" on Netflix. They have an episode on wrestling figures. It's amazing.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/oIgUPmr.png

[Sepholio]

For a minute I was like wtf I don't remember Johnny Cage saying that then I saw who posted it.

[Tom Guycott]

If you have netflix you gotta watch "The Toys that Made Us" on Netflix. They have an episode on wrestling figures. It's amazing.

I watched the hell out of that ages ago. Funny to learn exactly how arbitrary the decision to scale down action figures to the widely used 3 1/2 was.

https://i.imgur.com/oIgUPmr.png

For a minute I was like wtf I don't remember Johnny Cage saying that then I saw who posted it.

Secret ending. You had to beat Reptile three times all flawless with just high punch then input a code for him to opine about The Toys That Made Us decades before it even was a thing. Super deep easter egg.

[Tom Guycott]

By the way, Merry Christmas, TPWW.

[LibSuperstar]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[Bad News Gertner]

Merry Christmas!

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[GD]

So when Ultimo Dragon won the J-Crown and performed in WCW, did it include the WWF Light Heavyweight title as well?

[Bad News Gertner]

Yes it did

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Ladies and gentlemen, Stan Hansen has been disqualified for throwin' Terry Funk inta the rivah!”<br><br>Thank you, <a href="https://twitter.com/roylucier?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@roylucier</a>. <a href="https://t.co/f6Sw4U1kTm">pic.twitter.com/f6Sw4U1kTm</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1209700092590071808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

So when Ultimo Dragon won the J-Crown and performed in WCW, did it include the WWF Light Heavyweight title as well?

Yes it did

Just learned that Pegasus Kid was a champion as well. Quite an interesting history associated with the strap.

[Bad News Gertner]

That title came and went a bunch of times from the WWF and then set off on it's strange and winding journey.

[Emperor Smeat]

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<p><a href="https://vimeo.com/380931575">Botchamania 401</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user101654169">Matthew Gregg</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Triple H, all the British indies that have shut down since WWE got involved in the region with NXT UK deserved their demise and claims WWE's involvement was not a bad thing.

Claims the only ones shutting down have been those who pay their talent terrible or don't care for their well-being despite the opposite being true for a few that have shut down.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy shit HHH just basically says &quot;Yeah, we're putting some indies out of business, but just the ones that have shoddy equipment and endanger the wrestlers&quot;. Yep, no indie you work with has ever had equipment problems. Certainly not leading to a career ending injury. Nope. <a href="https://t.co/2YzJZ4s1CR">https://t.co/2YzJZ4s1CR</a></p>&mdash; Trevor Dame (@TrevorDame) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrevorDame/status/1210166015130136576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple H appeared on the "After The Bell" podcast and spoke about NXT the brand branching out and having some of its wrestlers compete for a number of other promotions such as EVOLVE and Progress. He would go on to say that there will be some promotions that will go out of business but it will be the ones that either don't take care of talent or don't have proper medical care on hand. The companies that WWE has worked for as of late are the ones Triple H said are cultivating talent.

“I think all of that is important in that this feeder system of what the business is. People that have misunderstood, like when we went to the UK, what we were trying to accomplish there because of small thinking or short sightedness. Yes, some of these indies are going to go away. The ones that are going to go away, the ones that were paying you $25 when they promised you $75, the ones that have a ring that wouldn’t hold up and didn’t have medical care, the ones that didn’t care about you. [They] cared about booking you because they were hoping to sell some extra tickets because you had a little bit of a buzz. We wanted to work with the ones that were cultured, that were cultivating talent, the ones that were encouraging them to get better with promos or giving them guidance, right or wrong, on their matches and had equipment that was functioning and medical care in case you got injured while you were there that at least you weren’t lying there for 45 minutes while trying to figure out if they could get an ambulance in here or call an Uber. All those things were important to us and those were the people we partnered with and let people work for. From what I’ve been told, the system has changed a lot and there’s a lot more of them policing it and the talent being able to police it. There are reasons some [promotions] thrive and some don’t,” Triple H said.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marty is back, Merry Christmas. <a href="https://t.co/YPiJzO1uEE">pic.twitter.com/YPiJzO1uEE</a></p>&mdash; ミスター横浜�������� (@HollywoodAsia) <a href="https://twitter.com/HollywoodAsia/status/1210284536229191681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is rumored to be considering the idea having Lesnar be in the Rumble match if he doesn't defend his WWE title at next month's event.

Brock Lesnar’s next match will be on the show. We haven’t been told outright it is a WWE title match, but the other option is the Rumble and WWE hasn’t put the champ in the Rumble in years, plus it makes no sense with the Rumble being for the Mania title shot. There is no obvious opponent for Lesnar at this point for either the Rumble or Mania. Usually you can tell by this time. Because nobody is obvious for those spot, there were rumors this past week of Cain Velasquez (who is in the Rumble as of right now) and Tyson Fury as Lesnar’s WrestleMania opponents popped up. The only thing we’ve been able to confirm is Lesnar will be on Mania barring injury, and neither Fury nor Velasquez will be the opponent.

Interesting enough, Meltzer also mentioned Rowan could be a potential opponent for Lesnar at the Rumble since apparently Vince is very high on Rowan's current push.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Bloomberg Law, Vince McMahon and other top WWE executives are currently being sued by one of WWE's investors over allegations of improper use of WWE funds for the XFL's revival.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The lawsuit claims there is “a credible basis to believe” that WWE Chairman Vincent McMahonn and other senior officers breached their duties to investors by diverting valuable resources to the XFL. <a href="https://t.co/5ZICo1POH1">https://t.co/5ZICo1POH1</a></p>&mdash; Bloomberg Law (@BLaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/BLaw/status/1210694990504087553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every day people (falsely) accuse me of drawing inspiration from them. I laugh, because I am the only one that knows truly. However, when someone does it to me I get so excited!��<br>I wanted to be the first to say... I forgive you Kevin! No matter how naughty you are!<br><br>Merry X-Mas!</p>&mdash; Bray Wyatt (@WWEBrayWyatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBrayWyatt/status/1209551787809804289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

WWE so greedy....who pays $500 for some random ass episode of RAW, not even a PPV


https://i.postimg.cc/02k9hnFg/Screenshot-2019-12-28-at-3-04-48-PM.png

[GD]

So Mike Rome won the 24/7 title last night.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEPittsburgh?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEPittsburgh</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeRomeWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeRomeWWE</a> became the 24/7 Champion, but not long enough to announce it... <a href="https://t.co/4AiwC9Dk49">pic.twitter.com/4AiwC9Dk49</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1211041229246517254?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Bought another t-shirt with some $ I got for xmas.

Can't wait for it to come in.

https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/500x500/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/m/a/maddogvachon1002.jpg

[Tom Guycott]

So Mike Rome won the 24/7 title last night.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEPittsburgh?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEPittsburgh</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeRomeWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeRomeWWE</a> became the 24/7 Champion, but not long enough to announce it... <a href="https://t.co/4AiwC9Dk49">pic.twitter.com/4AiwC9Dk49</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1211041229246517254?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is it bad that, until I watched the vid, I was thinking of Jim Rome?

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Bruce Prichard, WWE's stale habit of almost always starting a show with a promo segment can be traced back to Vince Russo who loved doing it during the Attitude Era and that mentality stuck with the company since then.

Discussing this while reviewing the May 11, 1999 episode of Monday Night Raw on podcast, Bruce Prichard reveals that this is a philosophy preferred by Vince Russo, the head writer of WWE at this time, but will occasionally be altered for a week at the suggestion of either himself, Pat Patterson, or another wrestling traditionalist.

"[Russo] liked starting off the show with the in-ring segments and felt that that set the tone for the rest of the evening. Get everything out. Let people know what they're going to see for the next two hours," Bruce began. "A lot of times that change up would come from, for example, me or Pat Patterson or more of a traditionalist as it's sometimes you sit there with a stopwatch and go, 'Okay. We had forty-two minutes to talk and we only had so many minutes of wrestling.'"

Bruce would also say that at the time, this style fit the product and that the belief was as long as the dialogue was good, the more talking that was seen from top stars, the better the show would be received.

He continued, "I think that the audience, and it's been proven time and time again, that if it's good talk and it's entertaining, then they like it. I know I used to watch wrestling just for the interviews. I would watch the matches, obviously, but I was waiting for those interviews. I wanted to hear my guy talk. And that was the philosophy during this time. The more talk you had, a lot of times the feeling was the better the show was."

[Tom Guycott]

According to Triple H, all the British indies that have shut down since WWE got involved in the region with NXT UK deserved their demise and claims WWE's involvement was not a bad thing.

Claims the only ones shutting down have been those who pay their talent terrible or don't care for their well-being despite the opposite being true for a few that have shut down.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy shit HHH just basically says &quot;Yeah, we're putting some indies out of business, but just the ones that have shoddy equipment and endanger the wrestlers&quot;. Yep, no indie you work with has ever had equipment problems. Certainly not leading to a career ending injury. Nope. <a href="https://t.co/2YzJZ4s1CR">https://t.co/2YzJZ4s1CR</a></p>&mdash; Trevor Dame (@TrevorDame) <a href="https://twitter.com/TrevorDame/status/1210166015130136576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Next, you'll tell me they totally planned the whole "Yes Movement" the whole time... oh, wait, he did try that shit.:roll:

Imagine Vince saying this in the 80s. I get that you have to put over your own company and self interests, but to then try to whitewash the entirety of the consequenses just smacks of blatant bullshit. Yeah, they ran off shady promotions. They also ran off ones who were attempting to be legit but without the bankroll or clout to stave off WWE and thier venue exclusivity (that nobody in the world dare challenged ever until that one ROH/NJPW show in NY) and talent poaching nonsense.

They love always trying to tell people they're the heroes of their own story.

[Tom Guycott]

WWE so greedy....who pays $500 for some random ass episode of RAW, not even a PPV


https://i.postimg.cc/02k9hnFg/Screenshot-2019-12-28-at-3-04-48-PM.png

Being fair, it *is* Wichita. There ain't shit to do there until the Shox make a run for the Final Four.

But that $500 is better spent bar hopping in Old Town.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Wrestling, man... Wrestling.

[Splaya]

Any update on Orton's new injury?

[Droford]

Any update on Orton's new injury?

It was fake

[Mr. Nerfect]

I haven't been following, but my early gut pick for the Rumble Winner is Samoa Joe. I think that's a match Heyman would really like. Joe getting a small babyface push for the first half of a year doesn't offend anyone either.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Fightful, Impact Wrestling was investigated by Anthem earlier this year regarding allegations of sexual harassment being committed by a high-level Impact official.

At least once instance allegedly involved threats of a contract extension clause being triggered in order to pressure the accuser into signing a Non-Disclosure Agreement who was later released from the company.

Anthem claims their investigations into the issues found nothing against the official who was being accused.

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-impact-wrestling-official-investigated-sexual-harassment

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sometimes I actually<br>Smile in pictures... and yes, there’s my<br>Butt. Enjoy. ������█♀️ <a href="https://t.co/R2Mn0xdIbz">pic.twitter.com/R2Mn0xdIbz</a></p>&mdash; Lexi Kaufman (@AlexaBliss_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexaBliss_WWE/status/1211301101582114822?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[ClockShot]

That supposed to be a haiku or something?

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol poor Nikki Cross's flat ass

[Bad News Gertner]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImmediateEmptyKarakul-size_restricted.gif

[Emperor Smeat]

For those in the UK, WWE's new network home BT Sports announced they will be airing both NXT and NXT UK on their channel.

NXT will air live on the network.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You want NXT? You got it.<br><br>BT Sport will be showing NXT and NXT UK from January 2020 ��<br><br>�� RAW<br>�� SmackDown<br>�� NXT<br>���� NXT UK<br><br>System, shocked. Boom. <a href="https://t.co/EX9hlRan0t">pic.twitter.com/EX9hlRan0t</a></p>&mdash; BT Sport WWE (@btsportwwe) <a href="https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1211965235948589056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's what Karl Gotch thought after he saw Harley Race wrestle. <a href="https://t.co/CWQYDUkCu7">pic.twitter.com/CWQYDUkCu7</a></p>&mdash; SoCal UNCENSORED (@socaluncensored) <a href="https://twitter.com/socaluncensored/status/1212076251063578624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sometimes I actually<br>Smile in pictures... and yes, there’s my<br>Butt. Enjoy. ������█♀️ <a href="https://t.co/R2Mn0xdIbz">pic.twitter.com/R2Mn0xdIbz</a></p>&mdash; Lexi Kaufman (@AlexaBliss_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexaBliss_WWE/status/1211301101582114822?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I'm no Alexa Bliss fan, but I have never, nor would ever criticize her ass game.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's what Karl Gotch thought after he saw Harley Race wrestle. <a href="https://t.co/CWQYDUkCu7">pic.twitter.com/CWQYDUkCu7</a></p>&mdash; SoCal UNCENSORED (@socaluncensored) <a href="https://twitter.com/socaluncensored/status/1212076251063578624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Harley was looked at as a Spot Monkey back then. He wouldn't grind you down or work a lot of holds as it was the style. He would just throw bomb after bomb.

[GD]

Wow!

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/eia66o/i_made_a_highlight_reel_of_my_favorite_moments_in/

[Mr. Nerfect]

Is that a fan production or a WWE one? If it's WWE official, then it just goes to show their production department is still fucking ace. God, if only everything worked as well as they do.

[GD]

A fan made it.

[Lock Jaw]

Lol poor Nikki Cross's flat ass

Thought the same.... looks like an empty void.....

[Bad News Gertner]

Haha!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I've seen better photos of her which shows she has a butt.

[Helmsphere]

It's clearly been eaten off by Killian Dain

[Evil Vito]

Andrade and Charlotte are engaged

Good for them, even if popping the question on New Years is unoriginal as fuck

[Gerard]

Andrade and Charlotte are engaged

Good for them, even if popping the question on New Years is unoriginal as fuck

Husband #3, not long to go before she catches up to the old man.

[screech]

Haven't they been engaged for months?

[Destor]

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He was completely right.
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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="QW3htvR"><a href="//imgur.com/QW3htvR">&quot;Shoeuiserweight&quot; Pete Dunne uses anything he can to his advantage and nobody is safe</a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Heenan is arrested on drug charges after falling unconscious during a flight to Tampa on this date in 1991. found marijuana &amp; pipes. <a href="https://t.co/00jOxmEHL1">pic.twitter.com/00jOxmEHL1</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling The Way You Remember It! (@SethHanson1982) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethHanson1982/status/947964273346666496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Pete Dunne attacking noted AEW superstar Jimmy Havoc with a shoe

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Heenan is arrested on drug charges after falling unconscious during a flight to Tampa on this date in 1991. found marijuana &amp; pipes. <a href="https://t.co/00jOxmEHL1">pic.twitter.com/00jOxmEHL1</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling The Way You Remember It! (@SethHanson1982) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethHanson1982/status/947964273346666496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Lol Bobby greened out

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently NXT's tag division is in such a sorry state that half of the field for this year's Dusty Classic tag tournament is from NXT UK.

Last year only 1 team was from NXT UK and only 1 of NXT's teams was random guys paired together. This year's tournament has just 2 regular teams from NXT and 2 random guys paired together. NXT UK's side is all established teams.

NXT:
Undisputed Era
Forgotten Sons
Matt Riddle & Pete Dunne
KUSHIDA & mystery partner

NXT UK:
Grizzled Young Vets
Gallus
Imperium
Mark Andrews & Flash Morgan Webster

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eh, who cares? Gives the UK guys more exposure. You only need a few teams to have a good division anyway. There's an idea that more is better, but then you get a mess like AEW's and no one really gets over. The best periods of tag team wrestling I can remember had a few star teams going at it.

I know they won't do this, but I do want The Usos to go to NXT and go for the belts. Maybe send The Revival down there too. Put Gargano & Ciampa back together for a few bif matches. Have the real-life friends, Lio Rush & Velveteen Dream team. There are plenty of things you can do to have an amazing division. It's just not the focus at the moment while UE has been running around in multi-mans with Adam Cole.

Fob off Forgotten Sons. They don't work. KUSHIDA and someone could be real good. Matt Riddle & Pete Dunne don't click in my head, but I'm fine with them for the moment.

[Emperor Smeat]

They could have at least done Keith Lee and Dominik Dijakovic since those two have a past history together and looked like the next challengers for the NXT tag belts. That was before NXT Creative dropped the ball with that and their mess of trying to handle the build for War Games and Survivor Series at the same time.

I'd assume Breezango would have been one of the teams had Fandango not gotten hurt but the tag division might literally just be 3 teams at this point and arguably the weakest its even been in terms of strength.

NXT UK pretty much has replaced NXT as the brand WWE only cares about when it suits them and/or whenever they need to borrow something from it. Its not 205 Live level of neglect though. Not even the low point of WWE's version of ECW was treated as bad as 205 Live has been.

[DaveWadding]

Apparently NXT's tag division is in such a sorry state that half of the field for this year's Dusty Classic tag tournament is from NXT UK.

Last year only 1 team was from NXT UK and only 1 of NXT's teams was random guys paired together. This year's tournament has just 2 regular teams from NXT and 2 random guys paired together. NXT UK's side is all established teams.

NXT:
Undisputed Era
Forgotten Sons
Matt Riddle & Pete Dunne
KUSHIDA & mystery partner

NXT UK:
Grizzled Young Vets
Gallus
Imperium
Mark Andrews & Flash Morgan Webster

My favorite thing about this is no Moustache Mountain somehow.

[Ultra Mantis]

British Strong Style as a whole have cooled off tremendously since NXT UK became a thing. If they weren't such corporate shills it would be a real shame.

[Emperor Smeat]

Current rumor going around the net implies that Joey Mercury was not entirely truthful about his accusations against ROH. Also not the first time this has been rumored about Mercury since his departure from ROH.

Also being rumored Klein might have been cheating on her husband B.J. Whitmer and possibly with Mercury since Whitmer recently announced they are divorcing due to her breaking his trust in their marriage.

[RP]

I think Andrade could get a much better looking woman. But I also think Charlotte Flair has the look of a woman who will give her man a colonoscopy with her tongue, to keep him.

[Bad News Gertner]

Current rumor going around the net implies that Joey Mercury was not entirely truthful about his accusations against ROH. Also not the first time this has been rumored about Mercury since his departure from ROH.

Also being rumored Klein might have been cheating on her husband B.J. Whitmer and possibly with Mercury since Whitmer recently announced they are divorcing due to her breaking his trust in their marriage.


I remember Kenny Dykstra getting as much heat with the boys as anyone when Mickie James cheated on Joey Mercury with Kenny.

[screech]

Isn't that what got Kenny basically fired from WWE?

[Evil Vito]

Mickie James cheated on Joey Mercury with Kenny and cheated on Kenny with Cena lol

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2019 was the first year since 1993 that The Big Show didn't work a single wrestling match</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1212499220273520646?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Starting with USWA on TV in the 80s, Dustin Rhodes has now wrestled on TV in five different decades <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SeanRossStats?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SeanRossStats</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1212560539647381507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Isn't that what got Kenny basically fired from WWE?

It didn't help. Joey was ADORED by the locker room.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m sure Mickie is completely loyal to Nick Aldis now though.

[Tom Guycott]

Eh, who cares? Gives the UK guys more exposure. You only need a few teams to have a good division anyway. There's an idea that more is better, but then you get a mess like AEW's and no one really gets over. The best periods of tag team wrestling I can remember had a few star teams going at it.



There isn't really a glut of actual tag teams in AEW. They had a jobber pairing nobody even heard of join Dark Order, and LAX v2 join late. Besides Bucks, SCU, LuchaBros, and Best Friends, who even is there? Part of thier problem is that all four of those teams are supposed to be top-tier, but there is nobody underneath. Contrast that with NWA, who has about the same number of teams, but aren't blowing their loads with tag matches featuring every team every week.

[Bad News Gertner]

Private Party

[Tom Guycott]

Husband #3, not long to go before she catches up to the old man.

Align this with the fact that she didn't even want to be a wrestler to the Ric Flair doc when he wanted to quit and the trainer wouldn't let him, and your quip has a high chance of becoming an accurate prediction.

Pete Dunne attacking noted AEW superstar Jimmy Havoc with a shoe

"Honestly, who throws a shoe?!? Seriously!"

[Tom Guycott]

Private Party

It is actually a shame I forgot about them, but remembered goddamn Best Friends.

[Bad News Gertner]

Jurassic Express

[Tom Guycott]

Jurassic Express

I should have added that I intentionally didn't count them in much the same way I didn't count the likes of Cody/Dustin. They're a trio of individuals. Jungle Boy started getting a singles push in the wake of Luchasaurus getting hurt instead of them falling off the world until his cleared return. Stunt is... polarizing, to put that as diplomatically as I can. They aren't exactly going to Freebird rule their way to tag titles like so much New Day or SCU.

[Emperor Smeat]

PWI reporting that MLW is currently expected to be making a major announcement soon.

Current rumor going around the net is that MLW recently signed a new television deal with POP TV and as part of the terms, Paramount Network (former Spike TV) bought an ownership stake in the company.

There is a lot of talk that a major story involving MLW and a new partnership will be breaking imminently. Court Bauer was in LA a number of times in recent weeks meeting with potential TV and licensing partners. We are told the story has a lot of potential to tranform the company's future in a positive way.

[Droford]

why would Paramount Network buy stake into a thing that airs on POP?

answer: POP and Paramount are owned by ViacomCBS Domestic Media Networks

Pop used to be the tv guide channel

[Volare]

Just gonna post this here...

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[Evil Vito]

I should have added that I intentionally didn't count them in much the same way I didn't count the likes of Cody/Dustin. They're a trio of individuals. Jungle Boy started getting a singles push in the wake of Luchasaurus getting hurt instead of them falling off the world until his cleared return. Stunt is... polarizing, to put that as diplomatically as I can. They aren't exactly going to Freebird rule their way to tag titles like so much New Day or SCU.

I dunno, Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus have been friends since childhood. They feel like a legit team with Marko mostly as their sidekick.

[Volare]

I dunno, Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus have been friends since childhood. They feel like a legit team with Marko mostly as their sidekick.

They did have a really good interview with the room service series they do. (And stole from Chuck and Trent)

[Jordan]

PWI reporting that MLW is currently expected to be making a major announcement soon.

Current rumor going around the net is that MLW recently signed a new television deal with POP TV and as part of the terms, Paramount Network (former Spike TV) bought an ownership stake in the company.

Wow... very interesting!

I would LOVE to see MLW on a major nework. I don't consider POP to be a major network but it certainly is bigger than beIN Sports. Perhaps they scrap PPV's on Fite and air their super shows on Paramount and weekly on POP? That would be really cool to me. I know we have too much wrestling content on TV in the US right now but I don't watch it all. I watch what I want. And if MLW had a legit shot on a major station I would certainly give them my ratings.

[erickman]

I guess pop missed impact for them to get mlw pop wants wrestler fans back.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looking sharp, <a href="https://twitter.com/theAdamPage?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@theAdamPage</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWonTNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://t.co/FqLgiffVZ8">pic.twitter.com/FqLgiffVZ8</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@tde_wrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/tde_wrestling/status/1212565039137329158?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Didn't take long for Corey Graves to go back to acting like an annoying twat on social media again.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There's being a disingenuous, hateful person, and then there's being a &quot;CALM DOWN!&quot; concern troll to our favorite zen vegan hippie stay at home dad.<br><br>That's what I call leveling up. <a href="https://t.co/xJfsAXusqq">pic.twitter.com/xJfsAXusqq</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1213256262718296067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't remember when I crossed into disliking Corey Graves territory, but I feel deep in it now.

[Bad News Gertner]

Still working on my 1997 Raw re-watch. Just about to start the November 4th Raw which is the episode before Survivor Series. The Oct.27 Raw started with the Nation doing an in ring interview regarding their Locker room being spray painted with racist graffiti. The Rock gets some mic time and for the first time I see the Rock we'd get two years from now.

Other observations.

1.DX are so God damn easy to hate. I keep hoping the Hart Foundation kick their asses. Lol I feel like I'm 12.

2. You can really notice when Russo takes control. The shows are drastically different

3. Weird that they had the Hart feuding with DX and the Nation when all three are presented at heels.

4. Dude Love had a really short shelf life and wasn't nearly as over as I remember

5. Ahmed Johnson got so out of shape so fast.

[Seanny One Ball]

Dude Love was like Playboy Buddy Rose at the end of his career.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TONrxhLYDOQ/SYigAzAolCI/AAAAAAAAB-0/SXXOxgUuflA/s400/BuddyRoseSandwich.jpg

[Seanny One Ball]

The guy on the left looks like a retarded Harold Ramis

[Bad News Gertner]

Haha yes he does.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol at Jeff Jarrett cutting a promo with Jim Ross about Vince McMahon forcing him to be Double J and how we are going to see the real Jeff Jarrett.

6 months after the NWA thing flops guess who comes back

That's J E double F J A double R E double T

Ain't I great!

[Evil Vito]

Lol at Jeff Jarrett cutting a promo with Jim Ross about Vince McMahon forcing him to be Double J and how we are going to see the real Jeff Jarrett.

6 months after the NWA thing flops guess who comes back

That's J E double F J A double R E double T

Ain't I great!

It was sad (though unsurprising) that Jarrett went into the HOF pretty much h having to keep playing up that character

Give me Slap Nuts Jarrett

[Seanny One Ball]

The best Jeff Jarrett was the one who assaulted women with guitars and put them in the figure four.
It was simple and hilarious.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Don't Piss Me Off Jarrett was easily his best run/look.

[Bad News Gertner]

I had totally forgotten about his return in 97 where he cut this shoot promo on Bischoff/WCW for like 10 minute in the middle of the ring on Raw.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Don't Piss Me Off Jarrett was easily his best run/look.

Yep, Jarrett hates Women was the best run and profitable.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I had totally forgotten about his return in 97 where he cut this shoot promo on Bischoff/WCW for like 10 minute in the middle of the ring on Raw.

and he beat the Undertaker on PPV.

It was mostly about Vince shitting on the Double J character which he went back to in 1998.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy was arrested on Live PD tonight for an outstanding warrant related to selling crack and cocaine. <br><br>If you listen closely, you can hear he was watching SmackDown when cops showed up. <a href="https://t.co/XrxdIULoDO">pic.twitter.com/XrxdIULoDO</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1213334181448577024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This guy was arrested on Live PD tonight for an outstanding warrant related to selling crack and cocaine. <br><br>If you listen closely, you can hear he was watching SmackDown when cops showed up. <a href="https://t.co/XrxdIULoDO">pic.twitter.com/XrxdIULoDO</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1213334181448577024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why is a WWE employee/contractor tweeting this?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I had totally forgotten about his return in 97 where he cut this shoot promo on Bischoff/WCW for like 10 minute in the middle of the ring on Raw.

Just watched it. Good promo really. Jarrett was a great hand. Got heat, could talk, could work. Perfect gatekeeper heel.

[Bad News Gertner]

And then he does these backstage one on ones with JR like they did with Goldust and Foley.

This rewatch has been really interesting. It's a very overlooked year in WWF history.

Planning on rewatching the Timeline WWF 1997 Jim Cornette after I'm done the whole rewatch

[Seanny One Ball]

The worst Sid matches I've ever seen came from either 96 or 97. He had a match with Shawn Michaels where he seems to camel clutch him forever.

[Seanny One Ball]

The match he had with Bret around that time was actually pretty decent.
I seem to remember Shawn getting up far too quickly from a powerbomb outside the ring too. Like he was up after about ten seconds.