"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Cool King]

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Sasha Banks' face looks really weird in that thumbnail.

I've seen her smiling before but she never looks like that.

[Sixx]

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Sasha Banks' face looks really weird in that thumbnail.

I've seen her smiling before but she never looks like that.

Yeah, but still, she's always ugly.

[Tonya Harding]

My favorite wrestler of all-time is Crowbar.

[Emperor Smeat]

Either WWE is adding a new match to the Rumble or want one of the Rumble matches to have more time since the US title tournament Finals got pulled from the event.

Its now occurring next week on Smackdown instead.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The SD pre-show tag match is 2 out of 3 falls now.

Wouldn't be shocked if they had a US Title match on he show with a quick angle done after the match next week though.

[Droford]

Jey Uso gonna be going to the Texas Penitentiary..maybe not but he was arrested for DUI over the weekend.
So hello Gable and Benjamin tag champs

[Tonya Harding]

Honey, you don't go to the Pen for DUI unless you kill or injure someone.

[Droford]

Which is why I said "maybe not"

[Tonya Harding]

The Uso's won't lose the belts. Taking the titles off them because they got a DUI would be dumb, 50% of the population has had a DUI.

[Droford]

Roman Reigns also got caught up in a Steroid thing
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article134261519.html

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He gets named @ 4:25 ish in the video

[Tonya Harding]

That sounds like Fake News. Your new name is FakeNewsford.

[Droford]

The owner of the Gym named Roman Reigns in the video by way of him being mentioned in the court documents.

[Droford]

Roman already had a strike against him for a PED violation so..doesn't look good

[Droford]

And I see this was from last year so..no idea what's up

[Black Widow]

Dumbass!

Uber exist for a reason.

[Sixx]

How is that everyone in the US keeps getting arrested for a DUI and here it rarely happens?

Come on, we're the drunks.

[Fignuts]

There is a free bus system here that goes all over town til 3 am and people still get DUIs all the time. Idiots

[Sixx]

Free bus? Whoah, nice.

[GD]

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Sasha Banks' face looks really weird in that thumbnail.

I've seen her smiling before but she never looks like that.

It has to do with the weave. She has genuine problems with her hair.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've never listened to the podcast but I follow the guy who hosts it on Twitter and he always seems to have great info/insight like this. If Mixed Match Challenge is a hit it could increase Facebook potentially offering the E a deal for RAW/SD rights as well.

It's cool to hear you follow him. I got through the whole thing, and I really enjoyed it. For people who like to think about the health of the wrestling business, it was good for stimulating the brain a bit.

Basically, digital media is such a slow increase (something like 3%) that they were speculating that it's not even worth catering to on that front, and that they're kind of getting lost in their own buzz. Analysts of the stock and all that basically say that TV is the crunch point. So the Fox news is the biggest thing for them right now, because they'll get to play Fox and USA off each other. Facebook and Amazon are kind of non-entities like that. The WWE have tried to make it sound like Amazon wanted to cover them in India, because they're the #2 sport, but they didn't mention just how big cricket is compared to WWE, haha.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jimmy Uso got a DUI once upon a time. There's really no excuse for it in 2018.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mick Foley has predicted Becky Lynch and Sheamus to win the Royal Rumbles.

How certain are we about Ronda Rousey wrestling a match at WrestleMania? I had it figured for a lock, but if the two parties haven't come together on money, or they feel like she's not really where they want her to be in order to milk it for what they want, then Ronda being the "Tyson" in a feud between Charlotte and Becky on SmackDown actually makes a lot of sense. I'm still predicting Rousey, but Becky has got to have the third best chance, when you really look at things.

[Fignuts]

Free bus? Whoah, nice.

Yeah, it's both for tourism and to reduce DUIs since as a ski resort it is also by default a drinking town. People still get them though.

Riding the bus from the mountain to downtown on weekends is often a party in it's own right. I've hung out with more people that I've met on the bus, than any I've met anywhere else.

[Sixx]

That's boss. I got so many tickets for eee riding without a ticket.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, it's both for tourism and to reduce DUIs since as a ski resort it is also by default a drinking town. People still get them though.

Riding the bus from the mountain to downtown on weekends is often a party in it's own right. I've hung out with more people that I've met on the bus, than any I've met anywhere else.

I absolutely love places like that. I've usually been the tourist, but I love talking to locals on the transport and getting an authentic experience with some cool locals who know the area.

[Juan]

Either WWE is adding a new match to the Rumble or want one of the Rumble matches to have more time since the US title tournament Finals got pulled from the event.

Its now occurring next week on Smackdown instead.

Word is, the winner of the tournament will end up facing Ziggler at the Rumble

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm really enjoying Liv Morgan these days for some reason.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Honestly, the whole Riott Squad is gelling really well.

[Simple Fan]

Of the Riot Squad Royal Rumble promos, her's is the only one where it didn't look like she was reading her lines.

[Droford]

Mick Foley has predicted Becky Lynch and Sheamus to win the Royal Rumbles.

How certain are we about Ronda Rousey wrestling a match at WrestleMania? I had it figured for a lock, but if the two parties haven't come together on money, or they feel like she's not really where they want her to be in order to milk it for what they want, then Ronda being the "Tyson" in a feud between Charlotte and Becky on SmackDown actually makes a lot of sense. I'm still predicting Rousey, but Becky has got to have the third best chance, when you really look at things.
Sheamus wins the Royal Rumble so he can beat Daniel Bryan in mere seconds?

[Evil Vito]

Mick Foley has predicted Becky Lynch and Sheamus to win the Royal Rumbles.

How certain are we about Ronda Rousey wrestling a match at WrestleMania? I had it figured for a lock, but if the two parties haven't come together on money, or they feel like she's not really where they want her to be in order to milk it for what they want, then Ronda being the "Tyson" in a feud between Charlotte and Becky on SmackDown actually makes a lot of sense. I'm still predicting Rousey, but Becky has got to have the third best chance, when you really look at things.

The Sheamus prediction is random as hell.

As for Ronda, I have a feeling she'll be in a match of some sort. But I don't think they'll come to an agreement fast enough for her to be in the Rumble and, frankly, they shouldn't have her in the Rumble. She can appear in the crowd or something but that's it.

The draw should be for her to have her first WWE match at WrestleMania.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh shit, New Legacy got the guy who did the original voice for "This announcement has been paid for by the New World Order" to do the same thing for New Legacy Inc. That's fucking awesome.

[Droford]

What are the Odds <strike>EC3</strike> Derrick Bateman shows up at the Royal Rumble? He got pulled from some random Indy show that was the same day.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[GD]

What are the Odds <strike>EC3</strike> Derrick Bateman shows up at the Royal Rumble? He got pulled from some random Indy show that was the same day.

Have D Bryan reintroduce him <3

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Weirdly, there's been a lot of money put on Daniel Bryan to win the Rumble recently. Dropped from 66/1 to 10/1.

Probably wishful mark money

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just don't see Bateman in the Royal Rumble. He might be backstage visiting friends or something, but I can't see them whipping up music, giving him a presentation and prepping the announcers just to have Derrick Bateman return for a 15 minute mid-card spot in the Rumble. I could be wrong, but a surprise Rumble entrant should come packed with something. AJ Styles was surreal; Sami Zayn had NXT history with Owens; Bubba Ray Dudley was returning in Philly. What does "Derrick Bateman?! Derrick Bateman is back in the WWE! "The American Classic" Derrick Bateman, Saxton! He's been tearing it up on the independents!" really add to the Rumble?

[GD]

I remember a time when I was as invested in New Legacy as Hasney. "Sheamoose" was the best thing they ever did for me.

[Evil Vito]

I just don't see Bateman in the Royal Rumble. He might be backstage visiting friends or something, but I can't see them whipping up music, giving him a presentation and prepping the announcers just to have Derrick Bateman return for a 15 minute mid-card spot in the Rumble. I could be wrong, but a surprise Rumble entrant should come packed with something. AJ Styles was surreal; Sami Zayn had NXT history with Owens; Bubba Ray Dudley was returning in Philly. What does "Derrick Bateman?! Derrick Bateman is back in the WWE! "The American Classic" Derrick Bateman, Saxton! He's been tearing it up on the independents!" really add to the Rumble?

Given I have no clue what the fuck they're going to do with the WWE Title picture, I could almost see them having Derrick Bateman actually winning the Rumble and challenging for the WWE Championship in the <s>main event</s> opening match of WrestleMania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Given I have no clue what the fuck they're going to do with the WWE Title picture, I could almost see them having Derrick Bateman actually winning the Rumble and challenging for the WWE Championship in the <s>main event</s> opening match of WrestleMania.

:lol:

Fair point. I've come back back around to Nakamura winning. I couldn't see it for the longest time, but now I'm just like "fuck it." But argh! I just can't commit to it. Weirdly enough, I'm still leaning towards either Corbin or Ziggler. Not because I think the plan is to make them hot, hot, hot -- but rather just give them a little SmackDown microwave.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Surely they are not going to go with more of a Roode vs. Ziggler feud? That stunk up the joint. And how does it make sense for Ziggler to come back and try to win the belt he already had but decided he was better than? Like, what did he think was going to happen in the tournament? But why did they put the US Title on Roode in a tournament instead of just having him beat Corbin one-on-one at Clash of Champions? This is some really dodgy storytelling, and you're going to go nuts if you try to analyze it.

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably some sort of half-assed excuse of Ziggler only wanted to make a point with his walkout and he is still contractually owed a rematch as a former champion's right.

Like a retelling of CM Punk's post-MitB 2011 walkout but handled a lot worse.

[Evil Vito]

Usos vs. Owens and Zayn for the SmackDown Tag Titles at Mania could be pretty boss.

[Evil Vito]

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Mr. Nerfect]

Probably some sort of half-assed excuse of Ziggler only wanted to make a point with his walkout and he is still contractually owed a rematch as a former champion's right.

Like a retelling of CM Punk's post-MitB 2011 walkout but handled a lot worse.

That's what they likely WILL do, but it's dumb as fuck.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It would be super dumb to win a title, vacate it, then demand another shot at it. So yeah, that's probably going down for sure.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It would be super dumb to win a title, vacate it, then demand another shot at it. So yeah, that's probably going down for sure.

:y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

With Bobby Roode in the WWE, does James Storm appearing there inherently become more attractive. Or is it "too TNA?" I was just wondering on what Roode could possibly do with the US Title, and a feud with James Storm, my unrealistic faction suggestion aside, is probably the most intriguing thing for me. But would the WWE do it?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm perplexed there because I remember James Storm wrestling a match or two on NXT, then going back to TNA. Is he supposed to be coming back now? I saw that he was "retired" in a really bizarre way on TNA recently.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He went back to TNA because there weren't any real NXT plans. Now he's left again and says he wants to go back to WWE. I see a lot more value in him with Bobby Roode there to either team or feud with.

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm very happy that exists.

[Droford]

That would be a massive shock moment.

I think that in about 10 years time the should give a wrestler the backstory that he was the hand that Mae Young gave birth too. Shame it's a bit too early for Jordon cos Marc Henry would be his dad.

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Doesn't look like Jason Jordan

[Evil Vito]

Coming up with a "realistic" WM card is really not a fun exercise since I have no doubt Triple H and Shane McMahon will once again have matches.

Triple H vs. Kurt Angle
Shane McMahon vs. Daniel Bryan

Complete waste of Angle's last WM match (though to be fair he can't work anymore), complete waste of Bryan's return to the ring. And two matches that they could easily merge and turn into a tag match but they'll suck up two Mania spots with it instead.

[slik]

Coming up with a "realistic" WM card is really not a fun exercise since I have no doubt Triple H and Shane McMahon will once again have matches.

Triple H vs. Kurt Angle
Shane McMahon vs. Daniel Bryan

Complete waste of Angle's last WM match (though to be fair he can't work anymore), complete waste of Bryan's return to the ring. And two matches that they could easily merge and turn into a tag match but they'll suck up two Mania spots with it instead.


HHH was rather adamant at the last quarterly conference call DBry wouldn't wrestle again in the WWE and implied it would undercut all the work put into the concussion program, which he said is among the best you will find for any athlete in the world.


I kind of want Braun to win the Rumble (as a surprise entrant) and decide to take on AJ or KO/Sami if they win.

[slik]

Or I want Braun vs. HHH w/ Braun doing the burying this time. I have no interest, at this time, in HHH vs Angle b/c I don't think Angle can 'go' that well. Same concern I have about Taker possibly wrestling again this year (though we'll have a better idea of what shape Taker is in this Monday at RAW 25).

[slik]

Jim Johnson's first interview since being let go from WWE. Sounds like office politics/backstabbing led to his demise, and he seems a bit heartbroken:


https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/7r29y2/jim_johnstons_first_interview_since_leaving_wwe_i/

[slik]

The first episode of Mixed Match Challenge Tuesday night on Facebook Watch currently has 1.3 million views as of 8AM Eastern Thursday. That's got to be a big success for a launch in terms of eyeballs checking it out.

[slik]

Meltzer mentioned in the Observer this week that New Japan/Goldberg have had some preliminary talks about bringing him in for several big shows. The WWE HOF usually has a short contract attached to it, Meltzer also mentions, so that Goldberg wouldn't be able to appear for a period after being inducted.

[Jordan]

Holy shit. Goldberg in New Japan... vs.... Jericho??? or .... TANAHASHI? Or.... SUZUKI!?!?!?!?

[Jordan]

If they could get a deal for WK 13 vs Suzuki I'd pay triple.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently Tugboat is currently dealing with a potentially life threatening illness.

After some other wrestlers asked fans to keep him in their thoughts, Fred “Tugboat” Ottman said that he’s feeling better but not out of the woods yet. Ottman said he’s dealing with an infection in his left leg.

[Evil Vito]

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[Bad News Gertner]

Apparently Tugboat is currently dealing with a potentially life threatening illness.

He's been sick a lot lately. Superstar Billy Graham is also going through a tough time again

[Cool King]

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[Ultra Mantis]

Holy shit. Goldberg in New Japan... vs.... Jericho??? or .... TANAHASHI? Or.... SUZUKI!?!?!?!?

Kitamura probably, since he's started using his finishing sequence.

[Emperor Smeat]

He's been sick a lot lately. Superstar Billy Graham is also going through a tough time again

Is Graham the one with the serious liver problem and came close to dying last time because of it?

[Evil Vito]

Graham pretty much said he was on death's door step 10 or so years ago when he was diagnosed with Hep C. But he's since been cleared from that. Has a lot of other shit going on though.

[Shisen Kopf]

Vader has almost died 10 times

[Ezra]

That guy from the raw 25 trailers good with voices. 3 and 3 quarter stars.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Coming up with a "realistic" WM card is really not a fun exercise since I have no doubt Triple H and Shane McMahon will once again have matches.

Triple H vs. Kurt Angle
Shane McMahon vs. Daniel Bryan

Complete waste of Angle's last WM match (though to be fair he can't work anymore), complete waste of Bryan's return to the ring. And two matches that they could easily merge and turn into a tag match but they'll suck up two Mania spots with it instead.

Triple H adds NOTHING to WrestleMania. Nor does Shane now that it's not some revolutionary return.

[Bad News Gertner]

Graham pretty much said he was on death's door step 10 or so years ago when he was diagnosed with Hep C. But he's since been cleared from that. Has a lot of other shit going on though.

He's been through so much. It's a miracle that he's still alive.

[Black Widow]

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_l/public/all/2018/01/025_Attitude_12192017jg_0161--dda5890bb0fcff235b85f7e0a5fd88c9.jpgCommon sense is Alexa should be in Trish's old outfits .

[Tonya Harding]

Who is re-enacting the Val Venis choppy-chop moment?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lucha Underground is apparently going to stop being cantankerous fuckers and let their talent work other places in hopes that it will draw people towards their product. I kind of predicted this when I guessed Rey Mysterio would be a guest entrant in the Rumble a while back. Still calling that.

[Blue Demon]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Can't look past Kane's nipple in that screen-grab.

[Sixx]

Can't look past Kane's nipple in that screen-grab.

Somehow this post reminded me of dronepool's weird-ass, soul-piercing nipples.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It was probably the nipple-based content.

[Sixx]

Yeah. but not every time when I read nipple do I think of dronepool.

[Lock Jaw]

red and black costume wearer's nipple = deadpool's nipple = dronepool's nipple

[Mr. Nerfect]

LJ has solved the puzzle.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There may have also been some subliminal messaging involved.

Can't look past dronepool's nipple in that screen-grab.

[Sixx]

red and black costume wearer's nipple = deadpool's nipple = dronepool's nipple

Interesting theory.

[Sixx]

Damn, dronepool's shirtless pic is no longer there. :(

[Droford]

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[Droford]

Now we know who Cena's facing at WM

[Sixx]

Who?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Batista should reveal that he got his dream of banging the twins and challenge the broken down Daniel Bryan, only for Cena to accept the challenge on behalf of their shared manhood.

[Evil Vito]

Batista should reveal that he got his dream of banging the twins and challenge the broken down Daniel Bryan, only for Cena to accept the challenge on behalf of their shared manhood.

There were rumors that Johnny Ace banged the Bella Twins in a hot tub circa 2008 which is why they were sent to the main roster despite barely wrestling in developmental.

And now years later he's their father-in-law. He may have fucked an entire bloodline.

[Droford]

damnit..

https://streamable.com/tl3aw

pretty amazing 10 years later the only one thats dead is Doink.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There were rumors that Johnny Ace banged the Bella Twins in a hot tub circa 2008 which is why they were sent to the main roster despite barely wrestling in developmental.

And now years later he's their father-in-law. He may have fucked an entire bloodline.

Yeah, I remember hearing about that and then he marries their mother. I...I don't know what to make of that. The first half of the story is probably just rumor and innuendo, although they did pull rank to get put on television quickly. That was probably a Johnny Ace call.

[Sixx]

He should also fuck their father for good measure.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He got a lot of practice sucking Shane's dick.

[Fignuts]

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[slik]

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[Disturbed316]

Damn, poor JR.

[#1-norm-fan]

Watching Raw from the beginning on WWE network. Took them 5 episodes to finally realize this Rob Bartlett project was not working and they seemed to started turned the announcing all gimmicky. First they did this weird thing where Savage's mic wasn't working so he stole Bartlett's for the rest of the show. The next week Bartlett dressed as Elvis and did an Elvis impression all night during commentary.

I honestly forgot he even lasted this long.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I haven't watched these matches in ages, but seeing The Heavenly Bodies in the WWF has reminded me that they're probably my favorite tag team of all-time.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I need a hand naming some new teams for my WWE 2k18 bollocks I do. I got Sin Cara and The Godfather, which is obviously Botched Pimping, but I need names for the other 2.

Sami Zayn & Shane McMahon (Had Ska Money but that sounds dumb)

Lars Sullivan & Enzo Amore (I have no fucking clue)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Smack-Talker Skywalker & Owen Lars Sullivan

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tatooine Dream

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Shane & Zayn Money Train

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sin Cara & Godfather: No Faces, No Names

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sullivan & Enzo: Untouchable & Unteachable

[Mr. Nerfect]

Freak & Speak

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lug & Tug

[Sixx]

I'ma try.

Braun Strowman and Gregory Helms - Braun Sugar

But I think I pronounce Braun wrong.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm going back and watching old matches I haven't seen in years to try and wash away my cynicism. Bret and Owen in the Steel Cage at SummerSlam '94 is a masterpiece on levels that I never appreciated as a kid.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just going to give a shout out to Rev Pro's top half of the card tomorrow. Their NJPW relationship is making for some goddamn gold matchups. Can't make it, but will be catching up on demand.

https://i.imgur.com/xSWLe8Bl.jpg

That main event hnnnng

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm actually curious about the main event.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm actually starting to become a real fan of Bret Hart. I've always liked certain stuff I saw as a kid, and I respect his contributions to the business, but he's never really been one of "my guys." I just re-watched The Hart Foundation vs. The Brain Busters from SummerSlam '89. Sweet Jesus.

I think I'm going to go on a Bret Hart kick tomorrow and watch a whole bunch of stuff I sort of half-heartedly watched when I was younger and perhaps a bit more naive and ignorant.

[Ultra Mantis]

Trent Seven is going to be very sore on Sunday morning.

[Evil Vito]

Del Rio said he apologized to Triple H for the comments he made about them, and that he believes he'll have one more WWE run in 2019.

Please dear god no.................

[Nicky Fives]

The Authors Of Pain are only 23 & 24 years of age respectively. I had no idea they were that young. Learning this made me like them even more, they have loads of potential.

[Cool King]

I need a hand naming some new teams for my WWE 2k18 bollocks I do. I got Sin Cara and The Godfather, which is obviously Botched Pimping, but I need names for the other 2.

Sami Zayn & Shane McMahon (Had Ska Money but that sounds dumb)

Lars Sullivan & Enzo Amore (I have no fucking clue)

Sami Zayn & Shane McMahon:

Zayn McMahon
S2
The Shane 'n' Zayn Squad
The Shane 'n' Zayn Power Squad

Lars Sullivan & Enzo Amore:

Larzo (or Lar-Zo)
Bald Man & Midget
Zo Freaky
Mr. Sullivan & Friend

[Cool King]

The Authors Of Pain are only 23 & 24 years of age respectively. I had no idea they were that young. Learning this made me like them even more, they have loads of potential.

Learning that just made me feel old. :(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ended up going with Zayn-O-Mac and the Bona Fide Freaks, thanks for all the suggestions!

[Emperor Smeat]

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Natty trying to do Nakamura's hand thingy reminds me of Mike Tyson doing messed up looking DX chops back in the day.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Del Rio said he apologized to Triple H for the comments he made about them, and that he believes he'll have one more WWE run in 2019.

Please dear god no.................

I think there's too much...there. I haven't followed the story as closely as some others, but there's a reason it's so uncomfortable. I sincerely doubt he'll be back.

[Mr. Nerfect]

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Natty trying to do Nakamura's hand thingy reminds me of Mike Tyson doing messed up looking DX chops back in the day.

I actually really like Nakamura in pink and black.

[GD]

I think there's too much...there. I haven't followed the story as closely as some others, but there's a reason it's so uncomfortable. I sincerely doubt he'll be back.

I’d love to know more.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's one of those uncomfortable situations where you don't want to talk out of school, but you also don't want to stick your head in the sand. I just can't see the WWE shaking hands with him again.

[Cool King]

So, for some reason, this exists.

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[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still lots of discussion regarding the WrestleMania 35 location. The difference between the 2 &quot;finalists&quot; is 96 miles. An hour &amp; half drive. So is it that big of deal? If your flying in either way, it shouldn't matter too much. Yes, the 2 cities / area is much different tho.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/951105579631587328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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COME ON PHILLY (2 hours closer to me)

[screech]

I'd like to see Del Rio back if they're actually going to give him a thing to do. Though I like him more than most, I think.

[screech]

Also would 100p be at Mania in Philly. I'm 45 minutes from the stadium.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still lots of discussion regarding the WrestleMania 35 location. The difference between the 2 &quot;finalists&quot; is 96 miles. An hour &amp; half drive. So is it that big of deal? If your flying in either way, it shouldn't matter too much. Yes, the 2 cities / area is much different tho.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/951105579631587328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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COME ON PHILLY (2 hours closer to me)

Phil's biggest get was getting Vince to move WrestleMania to Pittsburg.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Mixed Match Challenge is on the Network.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Interesting. Figured they'd keep it just on Facebook Watch cause that's the whole point of it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Nah, they announced it would just be delayed. Makes sense since the Facebook bollocks is US only.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just got reminded of the Heyman-booked period of OVW with the Johnny Jeter & Cappotelli title match

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Good shit right there.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Tranquilo

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[DaveWadding]

Lucha Underground is apparently going to stop being cantankerous fuckers and let their talent work other places in hopes that it will draw people towards their product. I kind of predicted this when I guessed Rey Mysterio would be a guest entrant in the Rumble a while back. Still calling that.

Welcome to like... 2 months ago.

[Cool King]

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[DaveWadding]

I'd like to see Del Rio back if they're actually going to give him a thing to do. Though I like him more than most, I think.

I got all excited about Del Rio's last return because he was GREAT in Lucha Underground and I was all hyped...then he came back to WWE and started doing the exact same boring shit he was doing before.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Welcome to like... 2 months ago.

News with LU travels slow, because no one really follows it.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Just got reminded of the Heyman-booked period of OVW with the Johnny Jeter & Cappotelli title match

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Good shit right there.

Johnny Jeter was so good so young. It's a shame the WWE never really did anything with him beyond the Spirit Squad stuff.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Cappotelli was great too, but got injured straight after his first main roster call up, then was the only wrestler I know of to benefit from a concussion as they found that brain tumor he had due to a routine scan after a concussion.

Was supposed to tag with Johnny Nitro on the main roster. Fan of Joey Mercury, but think that could have been an even better team.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

RevPro Suzuki Gun V Mustache Mountain spoilers

Suzuki Gun are the new UK tag team champions. Means I have more chance to go see Suzuki in this country

[Evil Vito]

I remember they randomly brought Johnny Jeter back for some huge 30-man battle royal they had on Raw in late 2006. He had been off-screen since the Spirit Squad ended and I figured they'd brought him back to do something with Kenny Dykstra, the only Squad member to stay on the main roster.

Instead he was never seen on the main roster again. Puzzling considering how good he was.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cappotelli was great too, but got injured straight after his first main roster call up, then was the only wrestler I know of to benefit from a concussion as they found that brain tumor he had due to a routine scan after a concussion.

Was supposed to tag with Johnny Nitro on the main roster. Fan of Joey Mercury, but think that could have been an even better team.

Hmm, I think MNM was better, just because Nitro & Cappotelli would have reeked of "Tough Enough." And Mercury put together a lot of the MNM stuff and kind of led Nitro in the early days. He was a big part of putting the package together. Nitro and Cappotelli would have been two great raw talents without any polish.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I remember they randomly brought Johnny Jeter back for some huge 30-man battle royal they had on Raw in late 2006. He had been off-screen since the Spirit Squad ended and I figured they'd brought him back to do something with Kenny Dykstra, the only Squad member to stay on the main roster.

Instead he was never seen on the main roster again. Puzzling considering how good he was.

He worked as Jayden Jeter at house shows. Cornette has spoken about him before, and has alluded to Jeter's passion for the business being stamped out by WWE. I'm not sure how personalized that information is (Cornette is honest and on the money usually, but when he likes guys, he often places the blame on the company first -- like with the Eugene gimmick), but he seems to have had a good relationship with Jeter. I didn't realize this, but Jeter actually won the OVW Heavyweight Title way back in 2003.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jeter is also part of the concussion lawsuit against the WWE now.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cornette has spoken about him before, and has alluded to Jeter's passion for the business being stamped out by WWE.

Unfortunately, that has been a recurring trend in recent years with a bunch of people that got cut by the WWE.

Wade Barrett does a bit of wrestling related stuff on the side but he's pretty much done as an active wrestler and several former women wrestlers admitted their time in the WWE killed their desire to continue in the industry. Then you have others like Swagger who still wrestles but also admitted about how much passion he lost because of the WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, there's an entire lost generation of wrestlers who were stamped out by the WWE and shitty gimmicks in the 21st century. I get mocked for liking a lot of the first wave OVW wrestlers, but they should have been more than gimps, the mentally challenged, French sympathizers (what the fuck does that even mean?), male strippers, stutterers, stylists and cheerleaders.

[Evil Vito]

To be fair, Rico as a stylist was great and given that he was 40 when he was called up his ceiling was never going to be particularly high. As it is he got a decent amount of screen time in his two and a half years on the roster and totally killed it in the role he was given.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even though their gimmicks were doomed to fail almost from the start, Eugene and Scotty Goldman (Colt Cabana) probably would have been a lot more successful if they arrived in the WWE a few years later.

Cabana's style of comedy as a wrestler would have fit a lot better in the PG era while Eugene could have been molded into a potential huge star and hero for disabled children.

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be fair, Rico as a stylist was great and given that he was 40 when he was called up his ceiling was never going to be particularly high. As it is he got a decent amount of screen time in his two and a half years on the roster and totally killed it in the role he was given.

It was entertaining, and so were moments of The Spirit Squad. And Nick Dinsmore was never going to be pushed as a wrestler, so adjusting and playing the mentally challenged boy prolonged his main roster tenure too. It's just a shame that it was like that. Why not use Rico as a serious babyface and try to do something like WCW did with DDP or WWE is currently doing with AJ Styles? Not to say that it would have worked on either of those levels, but I doubt you would assert that he had to be a silly act while he was there either. Daniel Bryan could have been great as "Bryan the IT Guy" too. It's just fortunate we didn't get that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Even though their gimmicks were doomed to fail almost from the start, Eugene and Scotty Goldman (Colt Cabana) probably would have been a lot more successful if they arrived in the WWE a few years later.

Cabana's style of comedy as a wrestler would have fit a lot better in the PG era while Eugene could have been molded into a potential huge star and hero for disabled children.

Eugene wouldn't work today. It would be seen as insensitive and tasteless (rightfully so). It was, ugh, a "necessary evil" (what does that say about the WWE?) in 2004 or whenever he came up, because a real rassler gimmick wouldn't have worked. It's a shame they didn't turn him on the ECW show in 2006 and have him "shoot" on how WWE made him play a "retard," when he's really one of the best technical wrestlers in the world today. Could have been a fun act on that rebooted show (had they insisted on doing it).

Dinsmore, coming along today, probably would have been tearing it up in the indies as a "wrestling genius," had some good stuff going for him in ROH, EVOLVE and New Japan -- stretching out guys like Zack Sabre, Jr. Then NXT would have signed him to be a player/coach for a while and see if the smarks ate him up. Then he'd either get a push towards the NXT Title or moved to the main roster and then either forgotten about on SmackDown or slum it on Raw like any of the indy guys are currently doing.

[Bad News Gertner]

Eugene was mega over until HHH cut his legs off

[Shisen Kopf]

Eugene was a good rassler but his gimmick was retarded

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eugene was mega over until HHH cut his legs off

This is true. Really weird to think of Triple H working with Nick Dinsmore playing a mentally challenged kid.

[Evil Vito]

I remember feeling genuinely sad when Evolution revealed their true colors to Eugene and beat the fuck out of him. You can basically pinpoint the moment this clueless mentally challenged man's heart breaks when he realizes his idol and his friends all hate his guts.

I actually wanted to see him get his revenge. Which of course never happened.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H can work with Eugene at SummerSlam, but he can't put him over -- that would be ridiculous.

[Evil Vito]

What they could've done was use the angle to set up a mega push for Regal when he dropped this fucking awesome promo.

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[Lock Jaw]

At the time I remember it being so "weird" and "surreal" that Chris Benoit had just won the big one, but the main focus of the show become a mentally challenged character and Benoit as just a "supporting player"

[Evil Vito]

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Just weird to see. Clean shaven Eugene vs. Batista sans hair and massive back tattoo

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eugene was a really big focus for a while, haha.

[DaveWadding]

News with LU travels slow, because no one really follows it.

Orrrrrrr you could find the Lucha Underground Season 4 thread RIGHT HERE on tpww.net!

[DaveWadding]

http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=134191

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Pass, but thanks.

[Evil Vito]

Joy Giovanni is a psychic medium now: http://joygiovanni.net/

She was very, very hot.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Emperor Smeat]

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[Lock Jaw]

Cool opening.....

Cool at CM Punk making it in there, but "lol" at him saying "pipebomb" and then cutting to Vince McMahon's limo exploding.

[Disturbed316]

Tell me your favourite Rumble matches - its a public holiday over here so got the day off and wanting to get through a few before next weekend. Im starting with my favourite (and most watched), 1998.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

1992.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

2001.

[XL]

2001.

Seconded.

2000 was pretty good too. If for nothing else than Kaientai.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Can't find the official bloody confirmation, but hearing that Pete Dunne has been pulled from an indie show next weekend. Hopefully we get a UK title match at Takeover or on the following NXT.

[Ultra Mantis]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/trentseven?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@trentseven</a> taking a Suzuki Chop the only way a Suzuki Chop can be taken <a href="https://t.co/fNTnHYAnaR">pic.twitter.com/fNTnHYAnaR</a></p>&mdash; Heel Nick Payne ☂️ (@HeelNickPayne) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeelNickPayne/status/954844158958755840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Can't find the official bloody confirmation, but hearing that Pete Dunne has been pulled from an indie show next weekend. Hopefully we get a UK title match at Takeover or on the following NXT.

Come on it means he's going to be in the Royal Rumble.

[slik]

Joy Giovanni is a psychic medium now: http://joygiovanni.net/

She was very, very hot.

I remember "Big Show's Special Friend, Joy Giovanni"
Back when Michael Cole said Big Show had 'Frying Pan Sized Hands" every time he appeared.

She feuded with the lady who Randy Orton defiled her bag, Amy something.

[screech]

Amy Weber. Apparently when she left the company she said "I'm sick of this shit!"

[screech]

I don't care if that shitting in the bag story is false. It's way funnier to believe it.

[Evil Vito]

Zack Ryder just proposed to his girlfriend Laurel Van Ness over Twitter, and it might not have been a joke.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think If she says yes to it they are engaged.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I want that Mean Gene action figure now too.

[Droford]

Today was the 10th anniversary of RAW airing in hd

http://www.wwe.com/videos/raw-goes-hd-raw-january-21-2008

[Droford]

The very last SD RAW (1/14/08) is actually in HD on The network with the old set. They must have tested shooting in HD. Its kinda weird

[Tom Guycott]

I don't nor have I ever gotten the fuss about Shelton. He's the least charismatic black man in wrestling history

http://www.profightdb.com/img/wrestlers/thumbs-600/da8dda7983cedric.jpg
"Hold my beer..."

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Nia Jax just hit Cedric Alexander with a Samoan Drop which directly followed by an Enzo Amore three count to retain the title.

On 205 Live Goldust won three against one against Tony Nese, Drew Gulag and Ariya Daivari.

205 Buried.

[Tonya Harding]

Tonya Harding should join WWE and teach Nia Jax some manners.

[Droford]

Wwe needs to add midgets to 205 live

[Droford]

Excuse me..minis

[Droford]

Speaking of..

Here's the 5 man "mini" royal rumble on the 1/14/08 raw lol

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[Droford]

Give the minis a rumble

A mini revolution

[Droford]

Lol Great Kahli isn't a mini

[GD]

Remember the Juniors Division on Smackdown?

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn't that happen because someone suggested that they re-brand the cruiserweights "junior heavyweights" and someone got confused between juniors and minis?

[GD]

"The Big Red Machine", "The Devil's Favorite Tech Support Daemon?"

https://i.imgur.com/wskPAxs.png

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TrueKofi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TrueKofi</a>'s ten-year career in <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> has been quite the (unicorn) ride, and it's just getting started! <a href="https://t.co/p4GDFIjbAm">https://t.co/p4GDFIjbAm</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/955409787428188162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

Attendance was apparently pretty good with the 205 Live house shows.

Results

1. Hideo Itami defeated Gentleman Jack Gallagher

2. Gran Metalik & Kalisto defeated Drew Gulak & TJP

3. Matt Hardy defeated Bray Wyatt

4. Akira Tozawa defeated Ariya Daivari

5. Mustafa Ali defeated Tony Nese

6. WWE Cruiserweight Title Match (Special Referee: Nia Jax)
Enzo Amore (c) defeated Cedric Alexander


Even on house shows, Lince Dorado can't get booked. Hasn't even had a match on 205 Live since July.

[GD]

Can't wait for Gallagher to annihilate Punk in the Octagon

[Bad News Gertner]

Attendance was apparently pretty good with the 205 Live house shows.

Results

1. Hideo Itami defeated Gentleman Jack Gallagher

2. Gran Metalik & Kalisto defeated Drew Gulak & TJP

3. Matt Hardy defeated Bray Wyatt

4. Akira Tozawa defeated Ariya Daivari

5. Mustafa Ali defeated Tony Nese

6. WWE Cruiserweight Title Match (Special Referee: Nia Jax)
Enzo Amore (c) defeated Cedric Alexander


Even on house shows, Lince Dorado can't get booked. Hasn't even had a match on 205 Live since July.

I heard it was a fantastic show

[Gerard]

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OOh hogans in it with the nwo for a microsecond...

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Ultra Mantis]

Alexa was absolute cringe there. Is she usually better than that?

[Mr. Nerfect]

"The Big Red Machine", "The Devil's Favorite Tech Support Daemon?"

https://i.imgur.com/wskPAxs.png

Curious as to why there is a Slammy there.

[Emperor Smeat]

While not completely wrestling related, find it really interesting and puzzled how Rock's recent film (Jumaji) not only crushed Cena's recent film (Ferdinand) but also made almost $1 billion in theaters.

Need to check the math but believe Jumaji also out-earned all of Cena's films combined as well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ferdinand was released around the same time as Star Wars, if I remember correctly. Surprised so many people are seeing Jumanji, because it looks like a pile of shit.

[Lock Jaw]

Jumanji looks better than Ferdinand, and The Rock, and probably Kevin Hart, are bigger Hollywood draws than John Cena is right now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jumanji looks better than Ferdinand, and The Rock, and probably Kevin Hart, are bigger Hollywood draws than John Cena is right now.

No way does Jumanji look better than Ferdinand. One looks like a harmless kids film and the other looks like a big, sloppy pile of remake. But you're right about The Rock being bigger in Hollywood. I wouldn't look too much into this like it's wrestlers drawing houses though. People are dumb enough to go and see Jumanji when it's released around nothing else.

[Tom Guycott]

"The Big Red Machine", "The Devil's Favorite Tech Support Daemon?"

https://i.imgur.com/wskPAxs.png

Why does he have on gym teacher shorts??

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just had the realization that WrestleMania 34 marks 17 years since WrestleMania 17, arguably their greatest WrestleMania ever. It now sits, chronologically, right in the middle.

[Mr. Nerfect]

More so than looking forward to the Royal Rumble Match for any genuine reason, I'm looking forward to seeing what a shit-show it is. This is going to be...interesting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was thinking of matches they could do for Triple H that would genuinely get me interested in him being at WrestleMania. About the only thing I can think of is Luke Harper randomly attacking Triple H and making him bleed. The angle is, I guess, that Harper is a loose madman and Triple H, horrible babyface though he is, hobbles through life with random Harper attacks.

[Big Vic]

Trying to listen to a podcast talk about Raw 25 but there are none up yet.

The geniuses at "Pro Wrestling Torch" have a Raw 25 preshow podcast and an upload today where they talk MMA.

Smart.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

MMA would be more interesting than that train wreck.

[Big Vic]

Yeah, I wanted to hear the hate.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't wait to hear what Bryan Alvarez says about it. He's one of my favorites to hear go off on onto a rant.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Occasionally, I wish Brian Last would sit down Cornette and get him to watch more modern wrestling too. Cornette would have a field day ripping apart that show.

[Big Vic]

I can't wait to hear what Bryan Alvarez says about it. He's one of my favorites to hear go off on onto a rant.
what podcast is he on?

[Mr. Nerfect]

He does the Wrestling Observer ones with Dave Meltzer, Mike Sempervivi and Vinny. They've got a pay window, but snippets pop up on YouTube.

[Danny Electric]

So this has probably been talked about before but surprisingly CM Punks 'pipe bomb' speech is number 2 on the Raw 100 top moments.

At the end of this speech he says he has a personal story about Vince, now I've read online that this was just a cue for backstage to know he had finished but this has been disputed.

Has it ever been mentioned what this story was ?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So this has probably been talked about before but surprisingly CM Punks 'pipe bomb' speech is number 2 on the Raw 100 top moments.

At the end of this speech he says he has a personal story about Vince, now I've read online that this was just a cue for backstage to know he had finished but this has been disputed.

Has it ever been mentioned what this story was ?

Pretty much nothing. If you want to hear some personal stories about CM Punk and Vince McMahon, listen to the podcast with Colt Cabana.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So this has probably been talked about before but surprisingly CM Punks 'pipe bomb' speech is number 2 on the Raw 100 top moments.

At the end of this speech he says he has a personal story about Vince, now I've read online that this was just a cue for backstage to know he had finished but this has been disputed.

Has it ever been mentioned what this story was ?

I'm sure it was just a cut-off point. If allowed to talk, Punk probably would have just gone into the well-known ironies of Vince McMahon being a bully whilst promoting an anti-bullying campaign.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Washing away the day of bad wrestling with some classic stuff. This time I've gone a bit more modern: Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle from SummerSlam 2001. I was a new wrestling fan when I first saw it, and I didn't appreciate the ring work perhaps as much as I should. I've always liked Angle, but the face/heel dynamics of this felt weird and like it played with credibility dynamics, and the Invasion angle, even to fresh eyes, was clearly a mess.

That being said, I've heard such good things about this match. I figured I should really revisit it, and I thought I must have sometime over my younger years. I think the one I've seen more of is Unforgiven, where Angle wins the belt, because I don't remember Angle's gear. This should be good.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah, Punk said "You know how we do this whole bullying campaign-" and then he got cut off. Seemed as good a place as any to stop it.

[Danny Electric]

Wow rewatching Warrior's speech at Raw after his induction to the Hall of Fame knowing that he will die just a day later. You can see how unwell he looks and out of breath.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Austin's so good on the mic as a heel, but there is this undercurrent underneath everything that is just goofy. Austin feeling like Vince wants to replace him with Angle is perfect egocentric star shit. "A hug used to mean something" -- not so much.

The stare-down between Angle and Austin in the aisle to start the match is epic. Austin going into full bad-ass mode is just what this needed to sell Angle as a guy who can fight him. He's worth the skin off the back of the knuckles. JR's commentary is prime too. When Angle takes Austin down and starts pummeling him, JR simply states "Angle is trying to kick Austin's ass." That's some classic Mid-South choosing of terminology to position Angle in the viewers' minds as something to get behind.

Something I've noticed watching Bret Hart recently is how good he is at calling back to action earlier in the match. If the heel pulls him by the hair, he'll get that heel by the hair later in the match. Against Mr. Perfect at SummerSlam '91 is a great example of that. So is the Cage Match with Owen. I like how Austin chains together three suplexes, but then gets upped by Angle who rolls a billion Germans.

The Stunner out of nowhere is...an interesting touch. Modern eyes make it seem like just another spot where someone hits their finishing move randomly. From memory, the intention here seemed to be to make Angle look like a resilient son of a bitch for kicking out. His shoulder getting up just in time makes for a great near fall.

Austin hitting his second Stunner is bringing back memories, haha. Austin goes for the kill, and I remember as a kid thinking "C'mon, Kurt." Ha at Austin telling Earl Hebner to put Angle back in the ring. Angle's selling off the posting is great.

Oh, shit, that's right -- he goes into the post A LOT. Austin's heat in this match is vicious. Lots of cool spots and counters. Angle dragging Austin back into the ring is a thing of beauty. Austin looks good surviving as he does, and Angle takes so much punishment and keeps on fighting.

Great ending. The referees take better bumps than the guys today.

[Danny Electric]

Paul London's face ( well I think it's Paul London) as Vince walks backstage before he gets blown up.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Paul London's face ( well I think it's Paul London) as Vince walks backstage before he gets blown up.

He was fired for that face.

[Danny Electric]

He was fired for that face.

It looked like the inspiration for 'Broken' Matt Hardy.

[GD]

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[Jordan]

Roman is easily one of the best wrestlers WWE has had in the main event. His offense is AWESOME and his selling is quality, not that he's HBK or something but for his character he sells very well. It sucks he gets treated the way he does, but it is what it is. He's a great wrestler.

[GD]

I concur with Fragile X. The Big Dog is a solid worker and worthy of the "locker room leader" moniker. The lad has had some bad luck with respect to his rise to main event status coinciding with the WWE Universe's innate desire to see Daniel Bryan back in the main event picture and possibly with the Heavyweight title around his waist. You can't necessarily blame them since we never got a proper title "reign".

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Evil Vito]

Tye Dillinger has entered the Royal Rumble

I actually hope they don't make him #10 again.

Send out some random heel or Curt Hawkins at #10 and then have Dillinger enter at #11 and throw him out for taking "his number".

[#BROKEN Hasney]

lol @ the thought of any plans outside of entrance order until the last 6 or so. They have barely cared.

[Evil Vito]

I dunno, they pretty deliberately gave Tye #10 last year

[Evil Vito]

Thought it was funny that Dean blurted out that Sami drew #8 in some backstage segment early in the show

Was 100% sure they'd have forgotten about it by the time they got to the actual match

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The best part of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/raw25?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#raw25</a> was when Vince McMahon deliberately poured beer all over his son on purpose, just to be a jerk. <a href="https://t.co/5CdX7AQxgq">pic.twitter.com/5CdX7AQxgq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Singer (@mattsinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattsinger/status/955870916474540033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Nerfect]

Tye Dillinger has entered the Royal Rumble

I actually hope they don't make him #10 again.

Send out some random heel or Curt Hawkins at #10 and then have Dillinger enter at #11 and throw him out for taking "his number".

They should have done something like this last year. Makes no sense for him to be #10. It also makes no sense for him to be in the Rumble given how much of a non-factor he has been.

[Evil Vito]

It's weird because this year they've not even announced half the field yet but everyone that's been announced has "declared their entry."

Like...that's all you have to do? Shouldn't jobbers be signing up on day 1 because this is their only realistic chance to earn a Mania title match?

I miss when nearly everyone had to qualify.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Last year people just declared they were entering. And there was someone, I can't remember who, that had trouble declaring themselves for some reason. This is why the WWE is broken and not even the Rumble matters anymore.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Dave has said that he thinks the Network subscriber numbers are low, because the WWE is offering three months to lapsed subscribers for $1.99. That this is coming around the Royal Rumble and WrestleMania, where interests will naturally be piqued, is what as Meltzer speculating.

Frankly, I'm glad. I canceled by sub last year when Jinder Mahal won the WWE Title. When you tell me that nothing in your history matters like that, I am going to follow suit. I wasn't watching the PPVs anyway, because they couldn't grip me. Easiest decision to cut back on. The WWE wants 8+ hours a week out of me (Raw, SmackDown, NXT, 205 Live and Main Event) on weeks when they don't run PPVs. If you're going to ask for that sort of investment from me, you better be worth the money I could have made working. And to then ask for more money on top of that? Heading into the Royal Rumble, I am not enthused. I'm anticipating a show with a cold Royal Rumble Winner (either Roman Reigns again or Shinsuke Nakamura, who my fandom has been beat out of). I also know I am getting two Royal Rumbles in an era where the Rumble has not been a very good match. I'm seeing a Handicap Match for the WWE Title with two mid-carders challenging, and a Universal Title match with a green lug that looks like someone fused Eugene and Kurrgan and Kane in 2018. Triple H still wrestles and usually wins.

I hope more and more people decide to stop paying $300 to see Billy Gunn beat up fresh talent and pay $9.99 to see more episodic content in a show that they tell you doesn't matter.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It makes sense now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEMMC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEMMC</a> <a href="https://t.co/P9uYlBRnFu">pic.twitter.com/P9uYlBRnFu</a></p>&mdash; Becky Lynch (@BeckyLynchWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/955929426872750080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Nerfect]

Jinder Mahal showed more in that backstage segment than he ever has as a professional wrestler.

[Savio]

If ADR does come back I hope he has a chef gimmick and challenges Brock for the title.

"This Sunday you will no longer be the Beast Incarnate.... But the 'Beast Con Carne'....perro"

[Mr. Nerfect]

P.S. Why do they make Becky wear clothes? I think even Gertner would agree that it would at least distract from her face.

[Lock Jaw]

:heart: Becky Lunch

[Evil Vito]

P.S. Why do they make Becky wear clothes? I think even Gertner would agree that it would at least distract from her face.

She was on Lilian's podcast and said covering up her abs was a personal choice. No matter how hard she works on her body, she's very self conscious about her body image.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Well, that's a shame for her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope you find the comfort in your body to get even more over, Becky.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah. Apparently when she posts picks that shoe skin and stuff it's because she thinks the lighting is perfect and she sees the slightest imperfections in herself.

Very unfortunate seeing as I'd pay money to eat off of her abs.