"100,001" Replies (Wrestling Forum)

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Shinsuke Happymura

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems Kairi Sane recently made her decision regarding the future of her WWE and wrestling career.

Tokyo Sports reporting that Sane will be leaving WWE soon and returning to Japan to finish up her career before retiring.

That lines up with previous rumors of her wanting to retire by the end of next year and missing being around her husband due to him living in Japan.

Turns out the actual report from Tokyo Sports was just more rumors about Sane leaving WWE and the US. Last they heard is if she does leave, she likely will still be working for WWE in some capacity and currently isn't considering working for another promotion in Japan.

[slik]

Kairi to debut as heel GM of NXT Japan in the Tokyo Dome at NXT Takeover: Kingdom

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maryse just verbally destroying Miz in front of the boys ������ <a href="https://t.co/2kYJwLVc4w">pic.twitter.com/2kYJwLVc4w</a></p>&mdash; acab rocky (@TheNextBlGThing) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheNextBlGThing/status/1283072548473696260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently the reason for Bianca Belair's sudden return to RAW this week wasn't so much because Creative had actual plans for her but instead they simply needed someone to fill in for Liv Morgan for Ruby Riott's feud with the IIconics.

On today’s edition of Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer said that Bianca Belair returned on RAW last night and teamed with Ruby Riott to beat The IIconics because Liv Morgan is currently away. The match was originally set to be Morgan & Riott vs. The IIconics.

It’s still unknown why Morgan has been away from RAW since the end of June.

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maryse just verbally destroying Miz in front of the boys ������ <a href="https://t.co/2kYJwLVc4w">pic.twitter.com/2kYJwLVc4w</a></p>&mdash; acab rocky (@TheNextBlGThing) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheNextBlGThing/status/1283072548473696260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JESUS CHRIST...

[#1-norm-fan]

Part of me wants to believe Miz and Maryse set that up just to fuck around but I don’t think either of them are that good of an actor.

[Evil Vito]

Losing the game isn't the Miz' biggest loss of the day if Maryse locked the box as well.

[Emperor Smeat]

If there is one thing from that Miz clip I didn't need to know about was that Miz's dad does naked yoga these days.

[GD]

Quality roast

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Shinsuke Nakamura is making pretty coin doing some amazing work that doesn’t shred his body. I think he would be one of Vince’s favorites.

[slik]

I was today years old


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How old were you when you realized that Triple H's finisher actually looks like an &quot;h&quot; <a href="https://t.co/iSFG43Bf2S">pic.twitter.com/iSFG43Bf2S</a></p>&mdash; 90s WWE (@90sWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/90sWWE/status/1283567198607474688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

Shinsuke Nakamura is making pretty coin doing some amazing work that doesn’t shred his body. I think he would be one of Vince’s favorites.

I wouldn't call it amazing work, but I don't blame the guy for coasting, given how rough his genuinely great work must have been on his body.

I mean, combine the work he was doing in NJ with a WWE schedule? Fuck that shit , man.

[Fignuts]

Would be nice if we got one or two more classic strong style Shinsuke matches before he gets too old to do it though, I'll say that.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Doesn't Nagata still do a strong style match here and there? How old is he?

[Fignuts]

To a point. He's older and more broken down so he's not pulling off anything that Shinsuke can do now, but he's a good enough wrestler that he can work around his limitations and still have a good hard hitting match.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I saw the match where Shibata dropped the never title to him and was thinking "how is this old fuck enduring this."

[Emperor Smeat]

To a point. He's older and more broken down so he's not pulling off anything that Shinsuke can do now, but he's a good enough wrestler that he can work around his limitations and still have a good hard hitting match.

The match he had with Minoru Suzuki during the recent New Japan Cup tournament was soo good.

Just two old badasses beating the living hell out of each other for most of the match.

[Fignuts]

Speaking of NJPW, when is Toa Henare's next match?

Haha I sure hope he loses, and gets fucking squashed.

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably not anytime soon.

He's not listed in any of the upcoming Lions Break episodes in the US and last I read about him, he was busy training for some bodybuilding competition or something else non-wrestling related.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Shinsuke Nakamura is making pretty coin doing some amazing work that doesn’t shred his body. I think he would be one of Vince’s favorites.

Mediocre work** but no issue with him making coin. Awful take by you though. Unsurprising.

[Fignuts]

Probably not anytime soon.

He's not listed in any of the upcoming Lions Break episodes in the US and last I read about him, he was busy training for some bodybuilding competition or something else non-wrestling related.

Good. Hope he quits wrestling.

[#1-norm-fan]

I fell asleep listening to wrestling podcasts. Ended up having a dream that I met The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express. I went to one of their houses and they were both working on a truck together. I wanted so badly to talk old-timey wrestling with them but all they wanted to talk about was cars and working on cars. I don’t know shit about cars. It was a nightmare.

[Jordan]

Lmao I think that Miz clip was legit. You can see him turning red. Hahahaa that was wonderful.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think it was definitely legit. We clearly have different definitions of “wonderful” though. Unless you hate Miz as a human being, I was overcome with a horrible feeling watching that poor man deal with his nagging cunt of a wife.

She’s hot though. Insanely hot. And he has gotten to put it in her multiple times. So maybe I shouldn’t feel bad? I don’t know.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait... Don’t they have a reality show still? This is gonna be a storyline, isn’t it? Fuck them both.

But that dilemma is still worth thinking about.

[Evil Vito]

She’s hot though. Insanely hot. And he has gotten to put it in her multiple times. So maybe I shouldn’t feel bad? I don’t know.

lol I remember there being a lengthy discussion on here on whether or not Maryse is a good lay or if she's someone that would just lay there and expect the dude to rail her....because she's certainly at a level of hotness where she could easily just phone it in and still have dudes lining up for a chance.

feel like dating someone that hot who is a dullard in bed would get old fast, but Miz has been with her for ages so who knows

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just look at the lineage of the NXT Championship! Some of the biggest superstars in the WWE have held that belt ��<a href="https://twitter.com/RealKeithLee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealKeithLee</a> is in good company here ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTGAB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXTGAB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWENXT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWENXT</a> <a href="https://t.co/IwiNDsux2E">pic.twitter.com/IwiNDsux2E</a></p>&mdash; WWE on BT Sport (@btsportwwe) <a href="https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1281049672040288256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Besides missing Bobby/Robert Roode in the picture who wouldn't count anyways, NXT hasn't had a homegrown talent win their top belt since Bo Dallas and that was back in 2013.

[Lock Jaw]

I know that Neville and Sami Zayn were known "names" (Neville less so) but I'd almost put them under "homegrown talent" because they weren't brought in like "this guy is a big deal! Love him!"

They were brought in, and built up (and not on the backs of their old names)

[Big Vic]

Bo should be front and center

[Emperor Smeat]

I know that Neville and Sami Zayn were known "names" (Neville less so) but I'd almost put them under "homegrown talent" because they weren't brought in like "this guy is a big deal! Love him!"

They were brought in, and built up (and not on the backs of their old names)

Yeah compared to others after them, Neville and Sami would be closer to the "homegrown" side of the scale than "pre-WWE established" for how their indie star status was handled.

Wasn't until around Kevin Owens or Finn Balor where NXT's mentality with pre-established talent started to shift more in the other direction for big pushes and focus.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Good. Hope he quits wrestling.

What's this dude's story?

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems NWA's future is dire based on a recent rumor going around the net.

Supposedly Billy Corgan is planning to shut down the company due to serious financial issues caused by the coronavirus and the recent controversies against the company.

[Fignuts]

Sho's eternal quest to beat Shingo Takagi has been my favorite angle in New Japan for a while now. Mainly because it leads to some incredible matches. So I was so hyped for their NJcup match.

...until that piece of shit Toa Henare tweeted out an image from the match showing the winner graphic. I don't even follow the fucker. It just showed up on my page.

Fuck Toa Henare. I hope he languishes in the young lion division for the rest of his fucking life.

Like of all the still frames from the match you could use, why would you use one that states the winner mere hours after the match took place? Did any logical thought cross this guy's mind before posting it.

Asshole piece of shit Toa fucking Henare

[#1-norm-fan]

It’s unfortunate, what this virus has done to the loveable “little guy” like NWA. But it can easily be resurrected when life gets back to normal. If not by Billy Corgan, then by someone else. Who wants to chip in?

[Fignuts]

I was a little upset.

[Emperor Smeat]

It’s unfortunate, what this virus has done to the loveable “little guy” like NWA. But it can easily be resurrected when life gets back to normal. If not by Billy Corgan, then by someone else. Who wants to chip in?

Even if the coronavirus hadn't wrecked things, Corgan and Lagana teased before in interviews that the NWA desperately needed a tv deal signed in order to stay afloat for the long term.

Same thing probably would have happened to Impact had Corgan actually bought them since he only had enough money to cover the purchase and maybe its debt but very little for anything else.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Corgan might be able to sell it to the WWE at fire sale price, if they’re interested in...what does the NWA actually have? Not a knock or anything. What does Corgan actually own?

[erickman]

Corgan might be able to sell it to the WWE at fire sale price, if they’re interested in...what does the NWA actually have? Not a knock or anything. What does Corgan actually own?

cornett said wwe allready owns nwa it, vince got it years ago in a contract if it ever got big enough he could take it this was long before billy.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer Newsletter, seems Extreme Rules is going to have at least 3 cinematic matches since the Bar Fight between Jeff Hardy and Sheamus is being taped prior to the event.

Every other match besides the Swamp Fight, Bar Fight, and Eyeball Pulling Fight will be live on Sunday.

[erickman]

According to the Observer Newsletter, seems Extreme Rules is going to have at least 3 cinematic matches since the Bar Fight between Jeff Hardy and Sheamus is being taped prior to the event.

Every other match besides the Swamp Fight, Bar Fight, and Eyeball Pulling Fight will be live on Sunday.

i guess that's the way to do it now. i liked this weeks ep of impact with 2 cinematic fights, gets more out of old wrestlers.

[drave]

According to the Observer Newsletter, seems Extreme Rules is going to have at least 3 cinematic matches since the Bar Fight between Jeff Hardy and Sheamus is being taped prior to the event.

Every other match besides the Swamp Fight, Bar Fight, and Eyeball Pulling Fight will be live on Sunday.




Ugh, suffering through this for the one family member coming over to watch it live. Usually they watch it the next day on their own time. The "eyeball pulling fight" is one of the stupidest things I've heard in a long while.

[XL]

Re: NXT champions.

I’d say Ciampa and Gargano are “homegrown”, they weren’t known on the level of Samoa Joe, Balor, Nakamura, etc.

[Emperor Smeat]

Not sure I'd consider either as "homegrown" or else someone like Becky Lynch would also fit that criteria despite wrestling for around 10 years prior to her WWE debut. In terms of NXT Women champs, I'd consider Sasha Banks as homegrown since her pre-WWE career was very brief.

They did benefit a ton by being associated with NXT and WWE, especially considering Gargano and Ciampa were never meant to stick around in WWE as long as they did.

Originally, they were only meant to be brought in for the short term and to give something back to EVOLVE in terms of exposure when the partnership was signed. Their quick rise in popularity and the match they had in the 1st CWC ended up changing WWE's mind and making their stay permanent.

[Jordan]

Re: NXT champions.

I’d say Ciampa and Gargano are “homegrown”, they weren’t known on the level of Samoa Joe, Balor, Nakamura, etc.

Nah, they were top echelon independent workers. Just like anyone who made their way into NXT after working a long time with ROH and Evolve.

[Bad News Gertner]

Riddick Moss baby

[Jordan]

I am going to watch NXT from last week and see how I like it. In the video package from Lee/Cole, I saw Lee's finisher and I think it was f'n awesome.

[Lock Jaw]

Re: NXT champions.

I’d say Ciampa and Gargano are “homegrown”, they weren’t known on the level of Samoa Joe, Balor, Nakamura, etc.

Thought of putting them on the list with Neville and Zayn, but then thought "nah" because they got to keep their names and play off of their previous popularity right off the bat..... granted, they didn't play off it to almost immediate success like others did, so they are still a bit different for sure.

[Emperor Smeat]

Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson recently confirmed the rumors of them also having beef with Paul Heyman backstage prior to their WWE releases.

Besides Style, they also claimed Heyman kept lying about his big plans and promises for the group and also played a big role in their releases since he provided the list of RAW talent to Vince to get rid of.

Also both had some bad blood with Triple H over him also lying about things in order to get them to resign with WWE instead of leaving earlier for NJPW or AEW.

[XL]

Thought of putting them on the list with Neville and Zayn, but then thought "nah" because they got to keep their names and play off of their previous popularity right off the bat..... granted, they didn't play off it to almost immediate success like others did, so they are still a bit different for sure.

I think you can draw a distinction between “debuted in the crowd at Takeover/on Takeover/clearly brought in to be at the top of the card” (Nakamura/Joe/Balor/Roode/Drew/etc) and “brought in as a hand/to fill out the roster”. It’s well known that DIY weren’t pegged for greatness when they came in.

[Lock Jaw]

But they were still brought in on their old names and presented as "check out these slightly popular names". They just weren't "check out these more popular names they are the best, love them immediately".

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;You know what, I don't think a championship belt can ever be too big&quot;<br><br>New South Wrestling: <a href="https://t.co/3VTu4M5P1B">pic.twitter.com/3VTu4M5P1B</a></p>&mdash; Fiending For Followers ‼️ (@Fiend4Follows) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fiend4Follows/status/1284554853537263616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

Homegrown talent has always meant one thing. I’m not sure why it’s suddenly up for debate.

If people like Zayn, Neville, and Ciampa are homegrown nxt talent, then Jericho, Eddie, and Benoit were homegrown WCW talent.

Except they’re not. Because that’s not what homegrown means.

[Gerard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dennis Condrey Is Vicious <a href="https://t.co/aGlBtA9mDx">pic.twitter.com/aGlBtA9mDx</a></p>&mdash; JustRasslin (@JustRasslin) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustRasslin/status/1284551583137767426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The "Miz" version is pretty shit.

[Jordan]

Goddamn that looked danger!

[Seanny One Ball]

It was absolutely devastate!

[Lock Jaw]

Utterly viscious

[Emperor Smeat]

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With the help of my Mom and Grandpa, I made that dream my reality. At 23 years old, my priority was me and only me. I lived the life that the old timers told me about and life on the road was everything I thought it would be at first. As the years went on my career evolved and so did I. I became a man, a husband and a father. Year after year, loss after loss my time in the ring became less and less fulfilling and my time at home became more and more precious but there was never a healthy balance between the two. Leaving WWE may have not been on my terms, but moving forward the choices I make regarding my career and my life will be ONLY on my terms. Over the last 14 years, I lost the man I thought I was... but Thank God I’m finding him again. I’m ready to reignite my fire. I’m ready to be the wrestler I was meant to be, while being the father and the husband that my family deserves. Now it’s my turn and I’m going to rise. So y’all better watch the hell out. Special thanks to @mauricio_jc0509 with @visualfirst_production for your time and dedication to this project. Thank you to Matt Mullins with @thebringdowns for my amazing new entrance music. Thank you to @latitude35cf for allowing us to use your space and kicking my ass into top shape over the last 90 days. Thanks to my wife @prettymotherpuckers for always having my back, even when I didn’t make it easy. My mom @ddtsrt for being my biggest fan. And of course a special thanks to my friends who have supported me through all of this change @natesiemon @emusukhbayar @emileesiemon @thomasculp88, @dmcintyrewwe @ganzo.u</a></p> <p style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;">A post shared by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heathxxii/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;" target="_blank"> HEATH XXII</a> (@heathxxii) on <time style=" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;" datetime="2020-07-18T04:00:18+00:00">Jul 17, 2020 at 9:00pm PDT</time></p></div></blockquote>
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[slik]

Homegrown Talent in WWE

Baron Corbin
Braun Strowman
Alexa Bliss
Bianca Belair
Street Profits
Liv Morgan
Charlotte Flair

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently the filming for the Swamp Fight match for tomorrow's Extreme Rules took around 6-7 hours to complete and part of the match was inspired by the Friday the 13th horror series, according to WrestlingInc.

[Jordan]

Anyone have a link for a Slammiversary stream?

[Seanny One Ball]

Utterly viscious


No, that isn't the same thing at all.

Fucking get it right.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson recently confirmed the rumors of them also having beef with Paul Heyman backstage prior to their WWE releases.

Besides Style, they also claimed Heyman kept lying about his big plans and promises for the group and also played a big role in their releases since he provided the list of RAW talent to Vince to get rid of.

Also both had some bad blood with Triple H over him also lying about things in order to get them to resign with WWE instead of leaving earlier for NJPW or AEW.

They also talked about the AEW VPs having a sook because they didn't sign with them, but you conveniently left that out. :lol:

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With the help of my Mom and Grandpa, I made that dream my reality. At 23 years old, my priority was me and only me. I lived the life that the old timers told me about and life on the road was everything I thought it would be at first. As the years went on my career evolved and so did I. I became a man, a husband and a father. Year after year, loss after loss my time in the ring became less and less fulfilling and my time at home became more and more precious but there was never a healthy balance between the two. Leaving WWE may have not been on my terms, but moving forward the choices I make regarding my career and my life will be ONLY on my terms. Over the last 14 years, I lost the man I thought I was... but Thank God I’m finding him again. I’m ready to reignite my fire. I’m ready to be the wrestler I was meant to be, while being the father and the husband that my family deserves. Now it’s my turn and I’m going to rise. So y’all better watch the hell out. Special thanks to @mauricio_jc0509 with @visualfirst_production for your time and dedication to this project. Thank you to Matt Mullins with @thebringdowns for my amazing new entrance music. Thank you to @latitude35cf for allowing us to use your space and kicking my ass into top shape over the last 90 days. Thanks to my wife @prettymotherpuckers for always having my back, even when I didn’t make it easy. My mom @ddtsrt for being my biggest fan. And of course a special thanks to my friends who have supported me through all of this change @natesiemon @emusukhbayar @emileesiemon @thomasculp88, @dmcintyrewwe @ganzo.u</a></p> <p style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;">A post shared by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heathxxii/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading" style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;" target="_blank"> HEATH XXII</a> (@heathxxii) on <time style=" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;" datetime="2020-07-18T04:00:18+00:00">Jul 17, 2020 at 9:00pm PDT</time></p></div></blockquote>
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I'm going to watch this with audio, but it seems to be some sort of "chasing the dream" video for Slater, which is really good, but I HATE the idea of being able to see his dreams. Why not just make it like a documentary of him driving in his car and training?

Come on, Heath -- you know better.

If that's his wife, then good for him too.

I think Keith Lee should have vacated the NA Title after winning in NXT and Slater should have come in and entered a tournament that William Regal says he needs to win in order to get an NXT deal, because "this isn't a charity" or whatever. Slater can win the tournament and have a feel-good moment with a singles belt. Probably triple AEW in the demos.

Homegrown Talent in WWE

Baron Corbin
Braun Strowman
Alexa Bliss
Bianca Belair
Street Profits
Liv Morgan
Charlotte Flair

Not sure if you're doing a comprehensive list, but I think you can include:

Akam
Big E
Bobby Lashley
Bo Dallas
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Carmella
Chad Gable
Dana Brooke
Dolph Ziggler
Jeff Hardy
John Morrison
Lana
Lars Sullivan
Mandy Rose
The Miz
Mojo Rawley
Nia Jax
Otis
Randy Orton
Rezar
Roman Reigns
Riddick Moss
Shayna Baszler
Shelton Benjamin
Sonya Deville
Tamina
Titus O'Neil
Tucker

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No, that isn't the same thing at all.

Fucking get it right.

Utter vicious.

It's even downright dastard.

[slik]

Joey Ryan speaks out, feels he is 'under attack' by social media


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[Emperor Smeat]

They also talked about the AEW VPs having a sook because they didn't sign with them, but you conveniently left that out. :lol:


Because it had nothing to do with topic of the bad blood between Heyman and Styles, Anderson, and Gallows. The stuff with Triple H was associated but more of him being a minor player to the Heyman beef.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Because it had nothing to do with topic of the bad blood between Heyman and Styles, Anderson, and Gallows. The stuff with Triple H was associated but more of him being a minor player to the Heyman beef.

No one was talking about that. They were talking about homegrown talent. :lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

And what does that have to do with my original post about the new details regarding the backstage issues between Styles and Heyman?

[slik]

I'm not watching a 58 min Joey Ryan video but sounds like I'm not missing much


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think it's uncool the level of detail sexually that Joey has gone into explaining all of this. Communicating she's tight because she does kegals has no value in this, and just feels slimy and gross.</p>&mdash; Andy Nemmity (@AndyNemmity) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyNemmity/status/1284632518025601024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

Joey Ryan is a fucking psycho.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I felt uncomfortable saying "Fuck Joey Ryan" because I have no watched the video and have no plans to watch the video, but fuck Joey Ryan.

[Lock Jaw]

Did he shave his stache for that video in an effort to not appear completely a sleazeball?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Did he shave his stache for that video in an effort to not appear completely a sleazeball?

Thought the same thing

[Volare]

The men seem to be doing alright.

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[Volare]

Did he shave his stache for that video in an effort to not appear completely a sleazeball?

Thought the same thing

The ol "Let's change the appearance to appear sorry/human" technique.

I mean my honest opinion was he was probably a dude who was good a fucking and got some of his fwb's (minus Candice and 1 or 2 others) to wrestle and do shit to...but jesus.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For what it’s worth I am now officially unemployed. First time since I left SMW in Nov. 1994. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FutureEndeavors?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FutureEndeavors</a></p>&mdash; Lance Storm (@LanceStorm) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1284716703222382592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Yeah, no, I’m not watching an hour-long Joey Ryan video. Guilty.

[Bad News Gertner]

Not watching current wrestling is such a pain when it comes to posting here. I get so excited when I see a thread I can contribute to lol

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yee-haw! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Slammiversary?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Slammiversary</a> <a href="https://t.co/uW0gfRO2Ud">https://t.co/uW0gfRO2Ud</a> <a href="https://t.co/9sqbz31HgQ">pic.twitter.com/9sqbz31HgQ</a></p>&mdash; Italo Santana (@BulletClubIta) <a href="https://twitter.com/BulletClubIta/status/1284667076926492675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently someone from NXT recently got a quiet call-up to the main roster.

Fightful Select has learned that Vanessa Borne has been called up to the main roster

Considering she barely did anything of note in NXT, doubt her fortunes are going to change on the main roster.

Like her pairing with Aliyah was arguably the most notable thing she did in NXT and that got abruptly dropped after a while.

Apparently WWE's quiet call up of Vanessa Bourne to the main roster actually happened months ago but it was only discovered very recently which shows how much WWE actually cared about it.

Same for her situation being similar to Riddick Moss in regards to how sudden her promotion was and why it was done.

Fightful Select has learned that Vanessa Borne has been called up to the main roster, but there's more than meets the eye.

Fightful was told that Borne was actually called up as far back as January or February, which explains why she hasn't appeared on NXT at all since then. However, she's still not made her main roster debut.

Borne has been awaiting her debut, but moved, and hasn't been flown back in regularly since then. Borne's situation was compared to that of Riddick Moss, who had a deal coming up, and then was promoted to the main roster upon re-signing.

Since all this has unfolded, there have been major shifts in WWE, and we aren't sure of her status as of now or where she was to land.

Since running this story, we've been told that there haven't been any firm creative plans along the way for her. Chelsea Green and Dominik Dijakovic were both reportedly called up, but haven't appeared on the main roster yet, either. Dijakovic has since returned to NXT.

Outside of a few rare occasions, WWE's call-up system has been a big mess for years.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Bobby Fulton's son, Futlon's health has deteriorated and was rushed to the hospital earlier today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is Dillon Hines. I’m sadly informing you today that my father has been admitted to the hospital. He’s in poor condition. Please send positive thoughts and prayers for him. Thanks! <a href="https://t.co/hDIHfymcJw">pic.twitter.com/hDIHfymcJw</a></p>&mdash; Bobby Fulton (@TheBobbyFulton) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBobbyFulton/status/1284877688763748354?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

May or may not be related to his current battle with throat cancer.


Edit: Fulton's son revealed afterwards it was due to his throat cancer returning.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The cancer has returned to a different part of dad’s throat. We will need a lot of prayers. Thanks!</p>&mdash; Bobby Fulton (@TheBobbyFulton) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBobbyFulton/status/1284935823641714693?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Damn, come on, Bobby.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Weird they actually fired Lance Storm. That seems like a bad decision. You don’t want him to go to AEW and be ignored.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to PWI, tonight is Kairi Sane's last day with WWE.

She's leaving for Japan after tonight's tapings which is covering tonight's and the July 27th episodes of RAW.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE might be experiencing another coronavirus outbreak at the PC or some other major thing suddenly popped up since WWE's taping plans for today have been delayed big time.

WWE was slated to begin taping tonight's episode of Raw at 1 PM but as of this writing at 2:06 PM EST, still have yet to begin taping any content at the WWE Performance Center.

PWInsider.com is told the company is deep into re-working their original plans for today's taping. There is a belief among some we have spoken to that the re-writes are due to talents originally written into the show no longer being available to perform but PWInsider.com has been unable to 100% verify that is correct. It is entirely possible the poor reaction to Extreme Rules led to changes in direction. The show received one of the worst post-show poll responses in recent memory here on the site.

WWE is slated to tape tonight's episode as well as next week's episodes of Monday Night Raw and Raw Talk as well as Main Event episodes today.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pro wrestling will never be popular in the mainstream again. Its days of having mass appeal and 7 million weekly viewers is long gone. It’s just not taken seriously and sadly doesn’t appeal to casuals. This goes for WWE, AEW, Impact, NJPW, etc. <a href="https://t.co/oTzfEasH2K">https://t.co/oTzfEasH2K</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling Info (@aewinfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/aewinfo/status/1285042244693655553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's true.

[Fignuts]

The Boom periods were always because of cultural movements that wrestling could easily take advantage of.

[Fignuts]

I wouldn't say it will never happen again, because you never know where we'll go as a people.

That said it's not going to happen any time soon because have you seen our culture lately?

[Emperor Smeat]

The Boom periods were always because of cultural movements that wrestling could easily take advantage of.

Could make a very strong case that there should have been a boom in the mid-2000s and the reason it didn't happen was due to Vince and WWE's stubbornness over adapting to what was causing it.

When Spike TV bought the tv rights to RAW, they used WWE's high profile at the time to help boost the profile of their smaller UFC property under the correct assumption that wrestling fans could become MMA fans as well.

Once that plan started to bear fruit and UFC took off in mainstream popularity, Vince and WWE failed to both recognize and latch onto it since they saw MMA as nothing more than a fad. The failure of doing that ended up leading to a big shift of wrestling fans moving away from wrestling and into MMA with the repercussions of it lasting to this day.

Within wrestling, ROH guessed right that the future of wrestling would shift more towards work rate for popularity but because they never could seriously challenge WWE, only way a new boom would actually happen is if WWE also recognized it. WWE failed to do so because of Vince's stubbornness over adapting to the changing wind in wrestling post-Attitude Era.

[Tom Guycott]

That same argument could be applied to the "Ryder Revolution". Whatever your feelings about him were/are, he was mad over and did it himself at essentially the dawn of social media. He was the right guy in the right place at the right time, and WWE just said "nah".

I will always liken it to an alternate timeline where Austin cut his infamous Austin 3:16 promo, and then in spite of all of the crowd signs and subsequent pops, Vince just wasn't feeling it, and didn't capitalize with the shirts and a push. Instead, he just randomly shows up in backstage segments at catering and does the occasional job on Jakked/Metal/Shotgun.

They were stubborn on getting behind a guy they saw little value in, and then almost insultingly, tried to use what he did to create their own less successful knockoff and back their own social media platform just a tad too late on that party. Basically, they dropped the ball twice there.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Zack Ryder was shit though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wrestling could have not gone down the slope it did, and it could have enjoyed little pockets of slightly increased popularity, but it was always going to get real cold after Austin shook Vince's hand. And the decisions they made -- namely to promote Cena so hard -- has allowed Vince to become richer than ever before without anyone that can hold a candle to him.

Vince "won" wrestling. Unless another billionaire comes along or The Rock decides to start his own promotion, you'll need Vince McMahon's empire to make you whatever passes as a star in wrestling.

[Emperor Smeat]

That same argument could be applied to the "Ryder Revolution". Whatever your feelings about him were/are, he was mad over and did it himself at essentially the dawn of social media. He was the right guy in the right place at the right time, and WWE just said "nah".

I will always liken it to an alternate timeline where Austin cut his infamous Austin 3:16 promo, and then in spite of all of the crowd signs and subsequent pops, Vince just wasn't feeling it, and didn't capitalize with the shirts and a push. Instead, he just randomly shows up in backstage segments at catering and does the occasional job on Jakked/Metal/Shotgun.

They were stubborn on getting behind a guy they saw little value in, and then almost insultingly, tried to use what he did to create their own less successful knockoff and back their own social media platform just a tad too late on that party. Basically, they dropped the ball twice there.

Yeah, WWE's pettiness over Ryder's rise in popularity via social media was just another instance of their stubbornness to adapt to the changes in wrestling until it was unavoidable.

They'd latch onto social media afterwards but instead of making it feel organic or special like Ryder did, it quickly became just another cog in the WWE machine.

Even moments like Fandango's dance and Bryan's YES! chants becoming sudden crazes outside of wrestling ended up being quickly wasted by WWE.

[Tom Guycott]

Zack Ryder was shit though.

Objectively, so was Hogan. Precisely why I added the portion about how any reader may feel about him personally. He wasn't the greatest, and neither was one of the biggest stars in the entire history of the whole goddamn company and arguably the industry.

He didn't have to be Ric Flair or anything. And my Austin comparison isn't 1:1 for talent, just circumstance. You can't deny that Zack Ryder tapped into something far bigger than himself in the exact perfect moment in time, and WWE not only just rode right past it until the iron nearly completely cooled, but then tried to blatantly counterfeit it and nobody bought in.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know you’re not saying it’s 1:1, but it’s not even close. Hulk Hogan had charisma for days and was a phenomenal worker. Amazing at selling and emoting. Zack Ryder couldn’t talk, couldn’t work and got over as a meme. When they tried to push him even a little bit, it was awful. Remember that promo he cut on Raw after winning the US Title?

Outside of being carried by Christian, has he even had a great match?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fandango, on the other hand, is the biggest missed opportunity in the history of the business.

[Fignuts]

Could make a very strong case that there should have been a boom in the mid-2000s and the reason it didn't happen was due to Vince and WWE's stubbornness over adapting to what was causing it.

When Spike TV bought the tv rights to RAW, they used WWE's high profile at the time to help boost the profile of their smaller UFC property under the correct assumption that wrestling fans could become MMA fans as well.

Once that plan started to bear fruit and UFC took off in mainstream popularity, Vince and WWE failed to both recognize and latch onto it since they saw MMA as nothing more than a fad. The failure of doing that ended up leading to a big shift of wrestling fans moving away from wrestling and into MMA with the repercussions of it lasting to this day.

Within wrestling, ROH guessed right that the future of wrestling would shift more towards work rate for popularity but because they never could seriously challenge WWE, only way a new boom would actually happen is if WWE also recognized it. WWE failed to do so because of Vince's stubbornness over adapting to the changing wind in wrestling post-Attitude Era.

Maybe they looked at New Japan and saw how great that worked out for them.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently WWE actually considered a potential Asuka vs. Natalya match for the RAW Women's Championship at SummerSlam.

Rumor going around the net is WWE's original plan was Asuka vs. Charlotte before that got dropped due to Charlotte needing boob fixing surgery.

Plan B was Asuka vs. Natalya before that also got dropped due to Natty currently doesn't feel comfortable working due to coronavirus related issues.

Plan C at the moment is Asuka vs. Shayna Baszler for the belt.

[Evil Vito]

I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.

[GD]

That was wild.

[slik]

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[Bad News Gertner]

I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.

That was during rave music Val Venis during his "business relationship" with Trish

VENrqa8XfxQ

[Emperor Smeat]

Rumor going around the net is that both FOX and USA Network have grown upset with WWE's sluggish ratings in recent times and are losing patience with WWE.

Vince's response is rumored to be him not really caring despite others in the company becoming very worried.

To put it bluntly, the ratings for episodes of Monday Night Raw and Friday Night SmackDown have taken a pretty hard hit during the Coronavirus pandemic. For example, last week’s Raw drew the lowest rating in the show’s history.

When WWE announced that Big Show vs. Randy Orton would be taking place on Raw last night and not at Extreme Rules, it was reported that this was in an attempt to boost viewership for the show.

As such, many people speculated that Vince McMahon would be incredibly unhappy with the falling TV ratings. However, a recent report indicates that, interestingly, that’s not the case.

WrestlingNews.co is reporting that Vince McMahon is not worried by the falling WWE TV ratings, and reportedly neither are the USA Network and FOX. Here’s what the site said on the matter:

“While some people in the people worry that the numbers could continue to drop, Vince McMahon has shrugged off the low numbers. WrestlingNews.co was told that McMahon feels that the numbers will get back over 2 million viewers after SummerSlam because he believes that fans will be back at shows by September.

“A WWE source said, “Vince is doing what he can by putting on PPV matches on Raw and SmackDown but USA and Fox are happy and everyone knows things will get better when we can get some people back at arenas. This is what he thinks right now and he’s not sweating these numbers.”

WWE initially reportedly had plans to have fans back into shows THIS MONTH. However, those plans have obviously been postponed. It will be interesting to see if/how Vince McMahon’s response to the ratings changes if fans are not back into shows by September.


However, a new report from Ringside News is suggesting that perhaps the USA Network and FOX aren’t overly pleased with the figures WWE is bringing in right now for their weekly shows.

The site is reporting that both the USA Network and FOX have ‘lost patience’ with the company, likely over the falling ratings. They also note that people within WWE are worried about declining ratings.

“While speaking to a source recently it was disclosed to us that WWE is feeling the pressure regarding their sinking ratings. “Sh*t runs downhill,” which makes for a very stressful work environment as some executives are taking frustrations out on anyone that they can under them. There is a lot of eggshell walking right now

“Ringside News has learned “the story that FOX and USA Network are okay with waiting for people to come back into arenas is bullsh*t.” It was previously thought that bringing fans back to arenas will encourage more viewers at home. We were told that they have lost patience with those low numbers.”

Here’s what Ringside News founder Steve Carrier had on say on Twitter about the report:

“We were told that stories about Fox and USA being patient with WWE are bullshit. They are not only really concerned about these ratings, but they are also worried about how the NFL will do more damage”.

It is important to note that Ringside News does say that neither FOX or the USA Network are reportedly considering dropping SmackDown or Raw respecitvely from their networks. They are just losing patience with the company.

Also starting in mid-August, FS1 won't be airing WWE programming on Tuesdays due to MLB. The network's statement to Post Wrestling did not mention if WWE programming would resume after this year's MLB Playoffs ended.

[XL]

I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.

I actually, for reasons I can’t explain, think of this moment quite often.

[XL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stephanie McMahon To Speak On Systemic Racism In WWE <a href="https://t.co/qQw6LW5SGI">https://t.co/qQw6LW5SGI</a></p>&mdash; HeelByNature.com (@HeelByNatureYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeelByNatureYT/status/1285642929197940736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[insert popcorn eating gif here]

[Lock Jaw]

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[drave]

That was SO a few weeks ago. They've changed their ways now.

[James Steele]

What exactly is pulling higher ratings for USA Network right now? Fox probably doesn’t have too much doing better ratings for a Friday night.

[Seanny One Ball]

I tell you what moment in WWE history I'm surprised doesn't ever get mentioned.

That time when Rikishi did a full-on diving splash from the top of a steel cage onto Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000. That shit was insane.


Yeah I have that match on a dvd and it's quite the fall. Even my memory of it from the PPV doesn't quite live up to the actuall footage.

Val is a true hero for taking that splash.
He had to have visions of his own demise.

[Emperor Smeat]

What exactly is pulling higher ratings for USA Network right now? Fox probably doesn’t have too much doing better ratings for a Friday night.

Nothing major and when they did have shows pulling in good numbers, not enough of them to put any real pressure on WWE. WWE still holds a big advantage of providing consistent 52-week shows per year compared to popular regular shows taking lengthy breaks in between seasons.

FOX is in a similar situation even though they also have a long time rep of not being shy when it comes to pulling the plug on under performing or expensive shows. The year before SD's arrival, FOX had a kids cooking contest show that was pulling in 3-4+ million weekly but only lasted for a few months at a time since it was seasonal.

There are also other factors besides ratings that contribute to both WWE's advantages and disadvantages with both networks.

[slik]

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[Tom Guycott]

I know you’re not saying it’s 1:1, but it’s not even close. Hulk Hogan had charisma for days and was a phenomenal worker. Amazing at selling and emoting. Zack Ryder couldn’t talk, couldn’t work and got over as a meme. When they tried to push him even a little bit, it was awful. Remember that promo he cut on Raw after winning the US Title?

Outside of being carried by Christian, has he even had a great match?

Nope. Not really. Then again, he never really got the chance to have one. Which is part of my overall point. We have no idea how he may have progressed if the machine actually got behind him and not one half-assed, late-to-the-party midcard title run or an angle where the payoff was to make him look like a complete asshole loser nobody should care about.

Remember, Vince is the same guy who even publicly admitted that he didn't see anything of value in one of his last great golden geese in John Cena. And if he decided to never pull that trigger, this conversation or some like it would likely be listing him as a failure of "all body, no substance". And even there, he didn't become the T-shirt moving company man overnight. It took YEARS and sustainability, not jobbing out in random matches on shows nobody watched once a month with him just walking by on someone else's backstage and spending the rest of his time going from city to city to be not booked.

Again, you personally didn't think much of Ryder. Fair enough. You look at him in nearly the same light I still see Keith Lee- whereas I can't deny the guy is over, but I personally still can only see him as one of the two schlub ex-football players as a tag team in ROH (the other guy was Shane Taylor, who's still there). He is a better talker than Shane, but just strikes me as a generic "big man" in a sea of "big men". I'm not creaming my pants over him. But he obviously has something I don't see, because he was getting reaction when crowds were real, and he seems like he should tick all the boxes for the Vinnie Mac approval checklist.

We don't know what could have been for Zack if he actually had gotten a fair shake while he was hot.

As for Fandango, I agree that was another dropped boat. Different way, though. Like, they seemed to think the whole reason he caught on was the dumbass song and not because he was talented. And even later when the Fashion Police started breathing new life into his and Tyler Breeze's careers, they got pushed to backstage segments (which were still getting huge pops), and then shuffled THAT off to "internet exclusive" territory. You basically had to go out of your way to watch one of the more talented and popular acts of the time. Almost as shameful as TNA's treatment of MCMG when they were the hottest tag team the company had in spite of barely being on TV.

[Big Vic]

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Hopefully they ask why they still divide stables by race.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

She's obviously going to have a bunch of speechwriters help her say absolutely nothing (which is smart, because at least she won't incriminate herself).

But I'm reallllllly hoping for a classic Stephanie blunder, like the time she equated 9/11 to the steroid trial.

[#1-norm-fan]

If the McMahon family is as good at hiring speech writers and having self-awareness as they are at hiring wrestling writers and having self-awareness then I expect her to just walk up to the podium, say “nigger” 100 times in a row and then walk off stage thinking “That was such good shit”.

[drave]

Bonus:


Coming to WWE Network in August. Relive the year 2020 as seen by WWE's Stephanie McMahon.

Brace yourself as we go on a journey with the one of the most sophisticated and powerful women of today. Look deep into the unprecedented events leading up to the great life-altering discussion on Systemic Racism and the hilarity that ensues backstage.



WWE Chronicle: Stephanie McMahon


Appearances by:


Asian Ninjas
Black Gospel Choir Guys
Anti-American Foreigners
Baron Corbin




Join now, for just $9.99 and don't miss this once in a lifetime look at the rigors and genius of Stephanie McMahon.

[Evil Vito]

Stephanie McMahon has single-handedly started the women's revolution, ended bullying, and now she's going to end systemic racism.

What a life.

[drave]

gotta watch dat chronicle tho

[Seanny One Ball]

Stephanie McMahon is so beautiful and powerful, she truly could end racism.

[Volare]

https://media.tenor.com/images/9522a38e3f7bc623f67320bb6ea89eaf/tenor.gif

[Volare]

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[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1595448827"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/humir9/6_years_ago_triple_h_shows_his_displeasure_by/">6 years ago, Triple H shows his displeasure by threatening to complain online and proclaiming that "he and his friend Mark" will stop watching. The average viewership for this RAW was 4.43 million viewers (demo 3.15) and the most recent viewership for RAW was 1.56 million viewers (demo 0.48)</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle">r/SquaredCircle</a></blockquote>
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[Gerard]

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Love how the giant black ninja makes an appearance for a week, does fuck all and has never been seen again.

[screech]

Stephanie McMahon has single-handedly started the women's revolution, ended bullying, and now she's going to end systemic racism.

What a life.

The video package for her HOF induction will be something to behold.

[Gerard]

That was during rave music Val Venis during his "business relationship" with Trish

VENrqa8XfxQ

Don't even remember that theme, must have been a memorable run. :wtf:

[screech]

That was when he wore the plain white tights right?

That was his attire in No Mercy, but his theme and video were the "old" ones.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Says the guy who looks like a refrigerator. <a href="https://t.co/0rB0JCfdLx">pic.twitter.com/0rB0JCfdLx</a></p>&mdash; Scarlett Bordeaux (@Lady_Scarlett13) <a href="https://twitter.com/Lady_Scarlett13/status/1285394837131407360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

That was when he wore the plain white tights right?

That was his attire in No Mercy, but his theme and video were the "old" ones.

Yeah when Trish was his manager. He was still mostly wearing the black and purple tights

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[Bad News Gertner]

Don't even remember that theme, must have been a memorable run. :wtf:

It was his theme during his last IC title run. Right before he joined RTC.

[Droford]

Bonus:


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[Mr. Nerfect]

I used to love Val Venis. Probably because I wanted an "other" so bad and I enjoyed his player/coach work in Sunday Night Heat more than Raw or SmackDown most weeks. And I remember reading an article that was right into that specific heel run where they pointed out he wasn't quite like the other Right to Censor members.

I think they could have pushed the Right to Censor out. In retrospect, it would have been nice to see the RTC make a Judgment Day PPV. But I do seem to remember people being ready for them to end at the time.

Bull Buchanan and D'Lo Brown were a tag team in All Japan for a while. They were part of a faction led by Taka Michinoku with Mike Awesome. Umaga, Rico Constantino and Justin Credible were also in there for a while. If they were around today, they'd probably be as over as The Bullet Club, haha.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah Noid, we know you used to love Val Venis.

[GD]

Can someone please quote Dale and my posts so they are visible to Noid?

Noid, we are aware of your creepy obsession with Val Venis.

[drave]

Yeah Noid, we know you used to love Val Venis.

Can someone please quote Dale and my posts so they are visible to Noid?

Noid, we are aware of your creepy obsession with Val Venis.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 hasn't been kind to Rey Mysterio �� <a href="https://t.co/7eHY8o1vtd">pic.twitter.com/7eHY8o1vtd</a></p>&mdash; Fiending For Followers ‼️ (@Fiend4Follows) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fiend4Follows/status/1285053590940389378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, current MLW Heavyweight champion Jacob Fatu is staying in MLW for the foreseeable future.

He recently signed a new deal with the company locking him up until 2025. Also his new deal has similar terms as other recent deals offered by MLW where talent are allowed to take outside bookings except if it involves WWE and AEW.

MLW managing to sign several new tv and distribution deals during this on-going coronavirus pandemic has been a huge blessing for them.

The reigning MLW World Heavyweight Champion Jacob Fatu has inked a new deal with Major League Wrestling, per a report from ESPN. MLW and Fatu came to an agreement on a new deal in late 2019, which was a few months after Fatu won their world title. This new deal has extended Fatu for four more years and he’ll be with MLW until late 2025.

PWInsider added that the original MLW deals only prevented talents from working with WWE. With the emergence of All Elite Wrestling, contracts have been restructured to become more exclusive. Fatu joins Alexander Hammerstone, Myron Reed, Salina de la Renta and Richard Holliday who’ve also had their deals restructured.

[Fignuts]

Jacob Fatu in the G-1 fucking do it you cowards

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright, we feel like getting controversial today. Wrestling Twitter: Who has the greatest lariat or clothesline of all time?</p>&mdash; PWI (@OfficialPWI) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialPWI/status/1286019295508672512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JBL would be my pick because of how brutal his Clothesline from Hell looked at times but Stan Hansen also had some really good and brutal looking lariats.

If there is one thing I've liked about modern clotheslines/lariats is the little spin most guys do after taking it. Helps make the move look even more devastating.

[Gerard]

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[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright, we feel like getting controversial today. Wrestling Twitter: Who has the greatest lariat or clothesline of all time?</p>&mdash; PWI (@OfficialPWI) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialPWI/status/1286019295508672512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JBL would be my pick because of how brutal his Clothesline from Hell looked at times but Stan Hansen also had some really good and brutal looking lariats.

If there is one thing I've liked about modern clotheslines/lariats is the little spin most guys do after taking it. Helps make the move look even more devastating.


JBL hands down. Stan Hansen is in my top 5 favourites, but JBL had the best.

[Sepholio]

Never really liked JBL but this is a no brainer. JBL by a wide margin.

[Vastardikai]

You also have to put Rick Steiner in there, somewhere.

[Fignuts]

I think JBL’s hits harder, but he also hits it very clean. I like Hansen’s more because he’s kinda sloppy which actually ends up making it look even more brutal.

Like there’s only so much you can protect someone when you’re blasting the ever living fuck out of them with a lariat, and I feel like JBL at least tries. Hansen can’t even see shit so he just swings for the fences.

[Bad News Gertner]

You know who had an awesome clothesline: Hercules


I gotta find an example

[Bad News Gertner]

Oh here we go, his match vs Foley. Around the 1:55 mark

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[Bad News Gertner]

One more at around the 2:10 mark. The whole match is great. PowerPlex baby!

F-l1XRyp994

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Hercule's roid belly is out of control by the Power and Glory days.

They were a great team.

[Evil Vito]

Xavier Woods' computer crashed during he and Tyler Breeze's Battle of the Brands SmackDown vs. Raw 2006 GM Mode livestream, completely wiping out all of the current roster CAWs he'd spent months creating and ranking up, as well as the GM Mode file itself.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol nerds

[GD]

Xavier Woods' computer crashed during he and Tyler Breeze's Battle of the Brands SmackDown vs. Raw 2006 GM Mode livestream, completely wiping out all of the current roster CAWs he'd spent months creating and ranking up, as well as the GM Mode file itself.

I feel bad for him. Wish he had made backups.

[Lock Jaw]

Lol nerds

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[Fignuts]

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Take a fuckin’ nap, Kawada.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jacob Fatu in the G-1 fucking do it you cowards

I kind of don't want to see him lose a match ever. Great signing for MLW. I hope they get a great TV deal coming out of this pandemic.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

https://i.redd.it/rlt8lrj4uenz.gif

Take a fuckin’ nap, Kawada.

I prefer Hansen's lariat as well, for the same reason as you. JBL's always seemed the same -- definitely a nice looking lariat. But there was a certain sanitization about it...it always looked the same.

Hansen's was unpredictable. Sometimes it'd look sort of like JBL's lariat, and other times it was akin to a knockout punch. He'd fucking smack someone... and instead of them taking some massive, showy bump, they'd just drop like a sack of shit. Probably because he actually hit the person and flash k.o.'d them before they could bump lol.

Also, Hansen's psychology with the lariat was better. He'd do little things like pull up his elbow pad to make it seem like he'd have to "protect his arm" because he'd hit you so hard. But it was always a great visual and the audience would react.

[Bad News Gertner]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Figgy's gif was better.

[Volare]

Jericho started his own show with some of his boys. Hillarious stuff and typical all over Jericho.

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[Gerard]

One more at around the 2:10 mark. The whole match is great. PowerPlex baby!

F-l1XRyp994

I think the more interesting part is the commentary.

At 2:30:

Macho: Roddy Piper were you ever on the receiving end of something you didn't want to come your way.

Piper: Nope

Macho: OOh, that was a quick answer but not sure we got a truthful one right there.

Anyone else recall the Roddy Piper Alfred Hayes story? :eek: He definitely didn't want to be on the receiving end there.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently AEW managed to have a segment hit the 1 million viewers mark during this week's episode of Dynamite.

Think that is only the second time that's happened for them since the coronavirus really started to ravage the ratings for televised wrestling.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will be next week. Young Bucks vs Butcher &amp; Blade were the stars of the night. Finish topped 1M viewers. <a href="https://t.co/KZVQL7dHli">https://t.co/KZVQL7dHli</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1286725592096751616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Volare]

So, went to my local bar...which had old school ROH on (lethal vs gresham)....so some dude wanted to talk shit about "wrestling is fake blah blah blah...." welp karma served the wrestling fan....watched this clown drop $200 into a pull tab box (paper tabs could be worth $$ if ur not aware of what they are...)....hit this bad boy...while blasting JUDAS in the bar when I hit it....

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[Jordan]

Haha nice!

[Volare]

So that won't happen again ever! Lol

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE might be planning to run a tournament for their NXT UK brand whenever they are able to resume shows for it.

Would be called the NXT UK Heritage Cup based on a recent trademark filing.

They also filed a similar trademark without the NXT UK tag and possibly for use for non-NXT UK brands.

[Emperor Smeat]

Currently watching GCW's Homecoming show since it just started after some technical issues and the ring they are using is tiny.

Could just be the camera angle but the ring somehow looks a tad smaller than the one NJPW was using for their Young Lions series.

[Emperor Smeat]

ACH's GCW debit was pretty decent overall.

Not sure it was a wise idea to have a very lengthy and slow paced match in 80+ degree heat though since it did affect the match's flow at times.

The Scramble match before it was a much better mix of action and match timing for an outdoor show in that type of heat.

[Emperor Smeat]

Mance Warner vs. Chris Dickinson was such a great hard hitting match.

How Dickinson hasn't been signed to a notable big promotion is a mystery since the guy has been great every time I've seen him in GCW.

[Emperor Smeat]

This Blake Christian vs. Alex Zayne match has been amazing. They weren't joking when the commentators said it was going to produce a ton of gif moments.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All Heart!!<a href="https://twitter.com/Air_Blake2234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Air_Blake2234</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexZayne?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlexZayne</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GCWHomecoming?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GCWHomecoming</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/GCWrestling_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GCWrestling_</a> <br><br>Available on <a href="https://twitter.com/FiteTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FiteTV</a>, new users use promo code “4vweyzv” <a href="https://t.co/xQ7eKc49Tx">pic.twitter.com/xQ7eKc49Tx</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling With Unicorns (@W_W_Unicorns) <a href="https://twitter.com/W_W_Unicorns/status/1287152025977917440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Seanny One Ball]

The best story I ever read about Verne Gagne was how he had a busted index finger for years, kept breaking it and just taping it back up until it essentially "died" and he lost all feeling in it.
Anyway he was in a match with someone, he puts the claw on them and when they blade for it they somehow hack the end of Verne's finger off.

Classic.


I think this may actually have been about Fritz Von Erich

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at doing a Slice Bread #2 spot on a barbed wire board. This death match has been pretty crazy and very bloody so far.

[Vastardikai]

Jim talked a bit about the Mama Cornette character, as she was a real person, but never appeared on camera. He mentioned this promo. I must say, he didn't cut very many of them, but this babyface promo is better than most folks best promos.

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[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: at that giant panel of glass covered in barb wire that just got brought out.

Whatever they are planning isn't going to be good at all.

Yeup, that spot was brutal. One-man Spanish Fly from the top rope onto the glass that was setup as a impromptu table.

[Emperor Smeat]

Considering the amount of light tubes and doors GCW uses up during their shows, wonder if they get a bulk discount on them.

:eek: Nick Gage vs. Shlak being a death match since that wasn't listed earlier for the show. However crazy the first death match was, this one is easily going to top it in terms of brutality.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yoshihiko putting Brock Lesnar to shame with the amount of suplexes he busted out against Janela.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at that spike DDT Janela took.

This has been an amazing comedy-based match so far.

:eek: Janela actually won DDT Pro's Ironman belt. Wonder if he's going to bring it to AEW television.

[Emperor Smeat]

Holy shit, Lio Rush suddenly showed up. This GCW show has been amazing.

:lol: he ripped his spandex tights a bit too much for the surprise reveal. Almost pantsed himself in the process.

[Emperor Smeat]

GCW World title match was decent. Wasn't really into it after the all the crazy stuff that happened prior in the show.

Only really interesting stuff that happened in the GCW title match was some guy in the crowd shouting out "Why are you so fat?" to the champ and the fork to the wang spot.

Show itself was great. Out of the 9 matches on the card, only 2 felt like duds for different reasons.

[Black Widow]

https://i.ibb.co/VH93tyx/HEMyNeWl.jpg

:love::love::love:

[Jordan]

Dear Emperor Smeat,

I've noticed that you seem to watch all wrestling pretty much so I have a few inquiries.

What is your favorite promotion? Least favorite? Do you only watch new wrestling or do you watch old as well, and how old? The reason I'm asking is because I feel you may be the the purest of all of us.

Myself am over saturated with product 100% I'd usually rather watch whatever the latest Netflix hit show is like "Dating on the Spectrum" or "Down to Earth With Zac Efron." I mean when it comes to today's wrestling how many times do I need to see the overly protected suicide dive, and why should I be watching anyone abuse the super kick beyond The Young Bucks?

The over choreography of a lot of today's wrestling is what really dampens my spirit. Seeing the red thigh from the slap for the knapp. Canadian destroyer every match.... yeah I know I'm describing the basic Young Bucks or Lucha Bro's match but they are amazing. They are the best of the best. Everyone is is not the best of the best but tries to have a Wrestlemania show stealer crammed into whatever time frame they are given for their match.

[Seanny One Ball]

Diet Cokes for you from now on kid

[Emperor Smeat]

Dear Emperor Smeat,

I've noticed that you seem to watch all wrestling pretty much so I have a few inquiries.

What is your favorite promotion? Least favorite? Do you only watch new wrestling or do you watch old as well, and how old? The reason I'm asking is because I feel you may be the the purest of all of us.

Favorite - Leaning towards NJPW. Watched one of their Wrestle Kingdom shows several years ago and got instantly hooked on the promotion. Before that, mostly knew of them via gifs, videos, and reading online discussions.

Least favorite - Impact Wrestling. Less so about the actual quality of their shows and more because I rarely felt hooked or interested whenever I'd watch beyond some brief periods. Last time I saw a regular Impact episode was during the Final Deletion stuff and stopped after that was over.

In regards to old wrestling, I watch that from time to time. Mainly stuff from the Attitude Era since I have more fond memories of that period of wrestling than other periods. Usually all depends if I'm in the mood for some classic wrestling or if something peaks my interest that was posted or talked about online.

In regards to modern wrestling, never really had a problem with it becoming very athletic or spot-heavy for matches since around the early to mid-2000s, I started to enjoy that style of wrestling more than WWE's story and promo-heavy style of wrestling.

[Emperor Smeat]

Currently watching GCW's Homecoming Part 2 show although missed out on almost all of the first half because of internet and computer issues. Seems the first half was pretty good and had a great death match bout based on some of the online chatter for the show.

[Emperor Smeat]

Scramble match was somewhat short in length but was amazing in terms of high flying action. Ton of flips and dives and even had a one-man double Frankensteiner spot.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="tr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/AlexZayne?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlexZayne</a> insane <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GCWHomecoming?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GCWHomecoming</a> <a href="https://t.co/P874KuWqYl">pic.twitter.com/P874KuWqYl</a></p>&mdash; Jason (@WRESTLE_FAN96) <a href="https://twitter.com/WRESTLE_FAN96/status/1287517946328358912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

I gotta say that the GCW Lost in New York show was the most fun I've ever had at rasslin.

[Emperor Smeat]

One of these days I want to go to a GCW show but they usually don't run shows anywhere close to where I live nor have anyone to go to a show with since they either all moved out of the state or stopped being wrestling fans years ago.

[Emperor Smeat]

Joey Janela vs. Lio Rush is about to happen.

Supposedly this is Lio's retirement match from wrestling.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yikes at Janela almost crashing face first from that suicide dive to the outside.

Extra yikes at Janela getting busted open from the corner post and broken shards of glass on the outside shortly afterwards.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: at Rush taking a spiked Package piledriver and a double stomp with a chair.

Match has been pretty good so far although nothing really special outside of a few big spots.

[Emperor Smeat]

Holy shit, Janela is crazy.

Jumped from the top of one of the poles along the boardwalk and not only did he smashed through an impromptu table, he might have also boinked his head on the boardwalk floor.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy ladder door spot during the <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JANELABABY</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/NotLioRush?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NotLioRush</a> - <a href="https://twitter.com/GCWrestling_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GCWrestling_</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GCWhomecoming?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GCWhomecoming</a> <a href="https://t.co/H6kmoa7wsz">pic.twitter.com/H6kmoa7wsz</a></p>&mdash; Evan Germanó (@evan_germano) <a href="https://twitter.com/evan_germano/status/1287531472455376902?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Match itself was pretty good overall although would have been way better if it was like 5-10 minutes shorter.

:lol: at the "Fuck Cornette" chants during Janela's post-match promo and praise of Lio Rush. That might have been the best promo I've ever heard from Janela.

[Emperor Smeat]

This main event match turned from being a handicap hardcore match to a light tube massacre and death match in an instant.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at the fat guy getting sit-out powerbombed through a bard wired door.

[Emperor Smeat]

GCW Title shot vs. Nick Gage GCW career match was great. Much better main event than yesterday's show.

GCW's Homecoming Part 2 show was wonderful based on what I was able to watch.

[Droford]

I'm gonna say this knowing I said I enjoyed the Full Gear unsanctioned match but I'm not really a fan of these crazy death matches with barbed wire/light bulbs/etc

[Emperor Smeat]

I like watching a death match every once in a while since sometimes they end up being pretty great but after this weekend's set of GCW's shows, I've had my fill of them for the foreseeable future.

Light tubes used to be the thing I liked the least about them but that changed after seeing a couple matches last year that involved scissors and blades boards. Especially after seeing one guy almost impale himself in the chest with a scissor. Think GCW stopped using those type of boards for matches after that incident.

[slik]

Vince sounds like he has a cold...maybe just a bad mic?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE CEO Vince McMahon responds to a shareholder question about what the company will do to improve TV ratings, from the annual shareholder meeting on Jul 16.<br><br>&quot;We have a 30-plus year track record of creating compelling characters and engaging a variety of audiences...&quot; <a href="https://t.co/XV9EjFgyeG">pic.twitter.com/XV9EjFgyeG</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1287506105325834240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NOAH and DDT will merge on Sep. 1 2020 as CyberFight<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ddtpro?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ddtpro</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/noah_ghc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#noah_ghc</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tjpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tjpw</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GanPro?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GanPro</a></p>&mdash; DDT English Update (@ddtpro_eng) <a href="https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng/status/1287584482568966145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Volare]

So the next one to have a "channel"....but hey at least they are funny.

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[Bad News Gertner]

Vince sounds like he has a cold...maybe just a bad mic?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE CEO Vince McMahon responds to a shareholder question about what the company will do to improve TV ratings, from the annual shareholder meeting on Jul 16.<br><br>&quot;We have a 30-plus year track record of creating compelling characters and engaging a variety of audiences...&quot; <a href="https://t.co/XV9EjFgyeG">pic.twitter.com/XV9EjFgyeG</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1287506105325834240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Sounds like a combo of age and a bad mic

[Lock Jaw]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stephanie McMahon To Speak On Systemic Racism In WWE <a href="https://t.co/qQw6LW5SGI">https://t.co/qQw6LW5SGI</a></p>&mdash; HeelByNature.com (@HeelByNatureYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeelByNatureYT/status/1285642929197940736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How did this talk turn out?

[Savio]

Wow this got zero views (on youtube at least), that question takes place around 12:55



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[Black Widow]

Won't hold it against him as fucked up as his mind must be from all the chair shots.

https://i.ibb.co/tqvGmkc/Screenshot-20200727-131915-Samsung-Internet.jpg

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NOAH and DDT will merge on Sep. 1 2020 as CyberFight<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ddtpro?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ddtpro</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/noah_ghc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#noah_ghc</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tjpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tjpw</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GanPro?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GanPro</a></p>&mdash; DDT English Update (@ddtpro_eng) <a href="https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng/status/1287584482568966145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

To clarify, they are still going to run as seperate brands, just under the same banner. You're not going to see blow up dolls in Noah or anything.

Though you might see some of DDT's more serious wrestlers cross over to Noah.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE dropped their plans for a new higher priced tier for the Network that had been rumored for months to include content from their affiliated promotions.

Earlier this month, WWE held a virtual shareholders meeting involving its executive staff for a company update. Brandon Thurston at Wrestlenomics has a great review of the call and below are some of the highlights ...

During the Q&A, Riddick stated the free version of the WWE Network has had “early positive results, but nothing definitive” – last week, Stephanie McMahon had noted network engagement was up 67% and you would have to attribute a sizable portion of that to the opening of the free tier and the promotion they did when the pandemic began where lots of content was made free

In a major shift from the George Barrios & Michelle Wilson era, Riddick said that don’t believe a premium tiered system is an optimum approach to maximize the subscription value. Instead, they are going with the free model to bring in new subscribers with the hope of converting them while also developing “local currency pricing in select international markets”


Also current rumor going around the net is WWE is looking at a potential outdoor location for this year's SummerSlam event.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE could possibly run outdoor locations for Summerslam, according to some of the murmurs within the company. They should. UFC got a lot of buzz for a Fight Island that looked exactly like the rest of their shows. WWE could do something different</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1287869819740553216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

With MLB, MLS and NBA scrimmages, I'd expect RAW to likely do an all-time low rating this week.

I just don't see how they can avoid that.

[Bad News Gertner]

Seems WWE dropped their plans for a new higher priced tier for the Network that had been rumored for months to include content from their affiliated promotions.




Also current rumor going around the net is WWE is looking at a potential outdoor location for this year's SummerSlam event.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE could possibly run outdoor locations for Summerslam, according to some of the murmurs within the company. They should. UFC got a lot of buzz for a Fight Island that looked exactly like the rest of their shows. WWE could do something different</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1287869819740553216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


It's too bad Club La Vela closed in 2018.

[Emperor Smeat]

With MLB, MLS and NBA scrimmages, I'd expect RAW to likely do an all-time low rating this week.

I just don't see how they can avoid that.

Yeah, next 2-3 months are going to be brutal for wrestling numbers.

Add in NFL and rumors of College Football looking at a Spring 2021 season and it might not be until next summer that wrestling gets any real reprieve from the sports onslaught.

That's assuming this coronavirus stuff doesn't take a turn for the worse in the winter.

[Tom Guycott]

Won't hold it against him as fucked up as his mind must be from all the chair shots.

https://i.ibb.co/tqvGmkc/Screenshot-20200727-131915-Samsung-Internet.jpg

Great to see you continuing your full-on racist twat gimmick. Nice to know you attribute believing one shouldn't be summarily executed in the streets by law enforcement with little to no reprocussions to CTE.

Keep up the shit work. :y:

[Black Widow]

Great to see you continuing your full-on racist twat gimmick. Nice to know you attribute believing one shouldn't be summarily executed in the streets by law enforcement with little to no reprocussions to CTE.

Keep up the shit work. :y:Yeah let's just reward arson/looting with Ice Cream or better yet you donate like the lib celebs have to bail them out.

[Seanny One Ball]

Ol' Milk Foley

[Big Vic]

Also current rumor going around the net is WWE is looking at a potential outdoor location for this year's SummerSlam event.


https://inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2011/07/Burj-Al-Arab-Tennis-Court-6.jpg

[Droford]

If Sasha/Bayley is the new Austin/HHH 2 man power trip, im going to guess Sasha is playing the role of HHH and will probably get hurt and cause it to end too soon like HHH and his quad

[Gerard]

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[Gerard]

Vince sounds like he has a cold...maybe just a bad mic?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE CEO Vince McMahon responds to a shareholder question about what the company will do to improve TV ratings, from the annual shareholder meeting on Jul 16.<br><br>&quot;We have a 30-plus year track record of creating compelling characters and engaging a variety of audiences...&quot; <a href="https://t.co/XV9EjFgyeG">pic.twitter.com/XV9EjFgyeG</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1287506105325834240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's sounded that way for a while now, sounds like he has a remote controlled vibrator shoved up his ass set to high power.

[slik]

lol

[Seanny One Ball]

He sounds like Philip Baker Hall

[Bad News Gertner]

Stuck in bit of a wrestling rut. I need a new long stretch project but I think I've done everything that I'm interested in.

Might do WCW Saturday Night 1998/99. Two hours a show is a long time to sit through C show matches . The 1 hour Worldwide's are way easier to do

[Big Vic]

Did you know?

The final episode of WCW programming was not Nitro and was in fact a WCW Worldwide broadcast.

[Volare]

Here we go again....Excalibur.

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2020/07/28/aew-announcer-excalibur-caught-using-n-word-in-multiple-videos/?fbclid=IwAR0-fgRIhY4fOO8monMIfdDJBsMyb8SomnL4ilJ8JRhIJ_vwcE3nPywbpE0 (AEW ANNOUNCER EXCALIBUR CAUGHT USING N-WORD IN MULTIPLE VIDEOS)

[screech]

Since Sammy got suspended over past comments, Excalibur will at least get that too, right?

[Bad News Gertner]

Did you know?

The final episode of WCW programming was not Nitro and was in fact a WCW Worldwide broadcast.

Yuppers! Worldwide had become just a recap show by 2000.

[Big Vic]

Wish I could find a full version of that ep, last checked like 5 years ago, it might be on youtube at this point.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, so Excalibur is a former rassler? I always wondered who the f he was and why he wore a mask, but they never bothered explaining or mentioning it.

[screech]

I think he's mentioned in passing like "I've been in the ring with this guy" but nothing more "official" than that.

[Bad News Gertner]

Wish I could find a full version of that ep, last checked like 5 years ago, it might be on youtube at this point.

Youtube just has a couple clips from the show

[#1-norm-fan]

I saw the “sign-off” of that episode a few months ago. Pretty odd.

[Seanny One Ball]

Picked a Worldwide episode at random and landed on Pat Rose immediately.
He has that territory body. Mmmmhmmmm...

Too Cold Scorpio and Marcus Bagwell was a weird team. Just flung together in red and white pants, dancing with kids in the ring.

The match ends with a 450 splash that couldn't look more out of place.

[Seanny One Ball]

Backdrops were deadly in WCW

[Seanny One Ball]

The Z Man now.

I think Tom Zenk is the name I dread seeing the most.
At least Scott Norton has interrupted just to decimate him.

[Seanny One Ball]

Slamboree 93 has to be the weirdest PPV card I have ever seen.

Jesus Christ

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not a fan of Excalibur as a play by play guy. Wouldn't give one fuck of he was given the boot.

[Seanny One Ball]

He should change his name to Ex Commentator

[Savio]

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Like how they ended with dismantling the set.

[Emperor Smeat]

Since Sammy got suspended over past comments, Excalibur will at least get that too, right?

Supposedly he apologized for those comments in the past, same with Kevin Owens since he's in one of the videos but wouldn't be surprised if he got suspended.

2nd time those comments have resurfaced recently with the first being when the big wave of abuse and sexual harassment accusations was rocking wrestling. That's how Sammy got busted while Excalibur and Owens somehow managed to be left unscathed.

[slik]

If people are going to dig thru old wrestling events of the last 5-20 years they are going find massive amounts of things to get outraged over.

I'm pretty sure Roderick Strong and Johnny Gargano were using the F word in indy feds a year before signing w/ WWE and in general PWG, ROH and TNA have tons of stuff that would be considered offensive. I say leave it all in the past and focus on the now, personally.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lawler called Goldust a fag on Raw in 97.

[screech]

The Rock called Kane part-retarded on RAW in 99. I think Lawler also called him The Big Red Retard at some point.

[GD]

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[mike adamle]

If people are going to dig thru old wrestling events of the last 5-20 years they are going find massive amounts of things to get outraged over.

I'm pretty sure Roderick Strong and Johnny Gargano were using the F word in indy feds a year before signing w/ WWE and in general PWG, ROH and TNA have tons of stuff that would be considered offensive. I say leave it all in the past and focus on the now, personally.

Idk about Gargano, but Strong didn't do that. AJ Styles used it pretty frequently though.

All people need to do is watch any early PWG show with the commentary on and they will hear the entire commentary team say some racist shit anytime a black person is in the ring. Obviously they were doing it for shock value but it was still stupid and ignorant as fuck.

Pretty surprised he's still doing AEW commentary tbh. He hasn't improved at all since he got there even though he's working with legends every week. I find him pretty annoying. Take him out, put Tazz in, and my interest goes up a lot.

[Seanny One Ball]

Lawler called Goldust a fag on Raw in 97.


Jerry Lawler's output during the Attitude days was just constant smut. I'd say about 75% of what he said on any given night was closer to the bone than Rhiannon.

I watch back and it constantly blows my mind. Just watch literally any women's match from 98-2002

[slik]

Idk about Gargano, but Strong didn't do that.

lol yes he did

https://wallsofjerichoholic.blogspot.com/2016/03/wrestling-with-homophobia.html

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/zacksabrejr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@zacksabrejr</a> I apologize for calling you the Fword but I don't apologize for anything else I said. Tomorrow this ends. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChampStrong?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChampStrong</a></p>&mdash; Roderick Strong (@roderickstrong) <a href="https://twitter.com/roderickstrong/status/706030676148101120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT Champion Johnny Gargano vs. Universal Champion Seth Rollins in AIW in 2008. The first 1:03 seconds show Johnny calling Seth &quot;pretty gay&quot; then grabbing his penis repeatedly while asking Seth if he likes it, and if he's looking at it. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/UhdqGYbruF">https://t.co/UhdqGYbruF</a> …</p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1117596798053384194?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

I'm sure this one will bounce back at some point

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[slik]

My point is, I don't think people should 'cancel wrestlers' for saying stupid shit in promos from the past era.

Focus on the here and now, things have changed.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine paying $400 for this. <a href="https://t.co/HOkp3GZrkI">https://t.co/HOkp3GZrkI</a></p>&mdash; Matt Degnan (@degnan_matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/degnan_matt/status/1288585493807063040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Vastardikai]

Not watching that, but I would absolutely do something like "I bet you $1,000 I can get Alexa Bliss to answer my request for a date."

[GD]

Alexa is a class act.

[Bad News Gertner]

Match goes a minute. Watch just for Sid's punches and Sid nearly paralyzing Lenny Lane.


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[Bad News Gertner]

The Rock called Kane part-retarded on RAW in 99. I think Lawler also called him The Big Red Retard at some point.

Lol I remember that because we used to call this kid we played hockey against that. Oh the 90's.

[Black Widow]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine paying $400 for this. <a href="https://t.co/HOkp3GZrkI">https://t.co/HOkp3GZrkI</a></p>&mdash; Matt Degnan (@degnan_matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/degnan_matt/status/1288585493807063040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Would have been much better if she had said what she was really thinking.:rofl:

[Fignuts]

The Owens and Excalibur stuff is just young people saying offensive things for attention. They're not racist. They just lacked the empathy and understanding of why using that word, even within that context is an extremely hurtful and insensitive thing to do. They should be made to apologize for any offense or pain they caused.

That's what should happen, but we live in 2020. Best case scenario is they are kept off TV for months. During this time they will be made to undergo sensitivity training despite the fact that they have already grown and matured as people at this point and would probably never even think of acting like that today, promo or not.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Figgy speaks the truth.