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[Lock Jaw]

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Yesterday, on September 11, 2023, Rich Fortune has purchased the entirety of WAW wrestling! Sudistic wrestling has purchased the entire company and all assets. Rich Fortune continues to expand!

WAW is Waw

WAWZONE

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nia Jax should be, at best, Tiffany Stratton’s hired gun to back her up against Becky Lynch.

[GD]

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[RaginRonic]

About the only thing I can say about Jax is this...

...I'm hoping that Rhea had the decency to hide a bottle of plum sauce at ringside to deal with that aroma after Jax sat on her. That is, if Rhea's not offended by the musky scent of what faced her.

XD

[DaveWadding]

Another crappy Wadding original

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[Gerard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kurt Angle trying to break The Undertaker and then breaking himself in the process... Priceless 😂 <a href="https://t.co/OOBvCD41xV">pic.twitter.com/OOBvCD41xV</a></p>&mdash; Covalent TV (@TheCovalentTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheCovalentTV/status/1700369090861203677?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

Love Stevie Ray’s videos on YouTube

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[Gerard]

Back 2 minutes and already fucking people up. Good to see nothings changed.

[mitchables]

hey that ilja dragunov/wes lee match on nxt was really good

ok thanks

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ilja always wins me over. He’s got this innate charisma about him. Great facial expressions too. He reminds me of Mick Foley in some ways. Wes Lee is really good. He seems “small,” but he’s a good worker for that size.

If they HAD to do a cruiserweight division somewhere, he’d be a pretty obvious anchor for it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seems like Wes Lee is getting called up.

I hope Dragunov wins the NXT Title. It’d be cool to see CM Punk come in and feud with him.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lance Storm on Twitter is the best lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Words can not express how much I hated this. <a href="https://t.co/lrZL3UPfgx">https://t.co/lrZL3UPfgx</a></p>&mdash; Lance Storm (@LanceStorm) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1702713320195911758?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Yes. So much yes.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It really is a fucking shame we didn't get more of Rick Martel &amp; Slick having their dance parties <a href="https://t.co/WSUFl4CUL8">pic.twitter.com/WSUFl4CUL8</a></p>&mdash; Kris Zellner (@KrisZellner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1702793452897845366?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why is Rick Martel not in the Hall of Fame?

[Lock Jaw]

Racism

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do a Canadian year and put Martel, Christian, Lance Storm and Owen Hart in.

[Volchok]

too bad owen wont be able to

[Volchok]

Jade Cargill is All WWE, shes gonna report to the PC this week.

[Volchok]

I think shes a waay better fit for WWE than AEW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

She can progress there. Make her Tiffany Stratton’s bodyguard or something.

[Volchok]

i wonder when pillman jr is gonna make his debut.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’ll be funny if he’s suddenly really good and AEW fans start asking where this guy was when he was in AEW, not connecting the dots.

[Volchok]

ikr, he was always one of the ones older guys said wanted advice. i think hed thrive in the WWE.

[Lock Jaw]

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Just wanted to post this again

[Mr. Nerfect]

ikr, he was always one of the ones older guys said wanted advice. i think hed thrive in the WWE.

That’s what I mean. Unless he is missing something really integral, if he can be taught, he will be.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can see Brian Pillman, Jr and Wardlow as a great tag team. Or give me Ilja Dragunov vs. Loose Cannon Jr.

[XL]

I can’t get past the look for Pillman Jr.

[Gerard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Early training footage of Skinny Hulk Hogan in 1977. <br><br>Taped while training with Hiro Matsuda before the leg break incident. <a href="https://t.co/IYENgi7lE2">pic.twitter.com/IYENgi7lE2</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1703356637048676648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Skinny Hogan, with hair.

[GD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Early training footage of Skinny Hulk Hogan in 1977. <br><br>Taped while training with Hiro Matsuda before the leg break incident. <a href="https://t.co/IYENgi7lE2">pic.twitter.com/IYENgi7lE2</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1703356637048676648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Skinny Hogan, with hair.

That's far from skinny. He seems normal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Richard Holliday received a tryout from WWE. Brogan Finlay was there too. Holliday would be a great signing. Dude’s got some experience, some good ties, is only 31 and just beat cancer.

[Stu Hart]

2 hours of my son talking about the life.

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[Gerard]

That's far from skinny. He seems normal.

It's skinny vs his usual wrestling build, unusual to see him looking that way when he's had a similar kind of build since the 80's.

[Bad News Gertner]

By 1980 he was enormous

[Gerard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The story of The Ultimate Warrior yelling at a kid in an airport, to holding Vince McMahon up for more money before SummerSlam 1991 to getting fired... <a href="https://t.co/3X8kGWSrMi">pic.twitter.com/3X8kGWSrMi</a></p>&mdash; 90s WWE (@90sWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/90sWWE/status/1704542576081035411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Well, cant recall ever seeing this before, warrior recording an apology to a kid he shouted at and all the outtakes.


An outtake from this (us\canada only or available via proxy)

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[Bad News Gertner]

They showed that on his DSTOR

[Bad News Gertner]

Started watching some late 91 USWA and boy do I ever wish we still did Watchalongs. The gimmicks in that promotion at that time lol

[Bad News Gertner]

The Spirit of America for example.

I can't tell you how much I love this.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Elimination Chamber is going to be in Perth next year in Optus Stadium. Ed Sheeran has set the attendance record there at 73k. I bet WWE is going to try and beat that and the All In attendance in one swoop.

The most interesting thing about this to me is that it means the Rumble, February PPV and WrestleMania will all be in stadiums.

[drave]

Started watching some late 91 USWA and boy do I ever wish we still did Watchalongs. The gimmicks in that promotion at that time lol




This can still be a thing man...,

[GD]

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[XL]

Elimination Chamber is going to be in Perth next year in Optus Stadium. Ed Sheeran has set the attendance record there at 73k. I bet WWE is going to try and beat that and the All In attendance in one swoop.

The most interesting thing about this to me is that it means the Rumble, February PPV and WrestleMania will all be in stadiums.

I think they’d have to go small with the staging to beat that number. They’ve every chance as they’ve not been over there for years. But is beating AEW/setting a new record even an “achievement”? I put achievement in quotation marks because everyone knows they’re striking a starved market with a stunt show. It’ll sell largely because it’s wrestling in Optus Stadium.

[Mr. Nerfect]

No, it’s not really an achievement. Sounds more like a paid show. But it’s funny to see WWE doing 4 stadium shows in a row.

[XL]

Imagine watching an EC match from nosebleeds.

[Sepholio]

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LOL TK got Stevie Richards video taken down everywhere. What a bitch.

[Mr. Nerfect]

SmackDown is going back to USA when the deal changes over. It’s a $1.4 billion deal for that alone. Comes with 4 NBC specials per year.

[XL]

Oof.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Reading between the lines, that would imply that Raw is moving from USA. There are rumors it could change nights, but you have to wonder why that wouldn’t just be SmackDown and whatever USA gets is called Raw.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is really how The Big Show lost the Intercontinental Title.<br><br>The look on his face is priceless. <a href="https://t.co/6ylBU9AdcN">pic.twitter.com/6ylBU9AdcN</a></p>&mdash; Alastair McKenzie�������������� (@mckenzieas93V2) <a href="https://twitter.com/mckenzieas93V2/status/1705324336125485557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Sting Fan]

Jade Cargill is All WWE, shes gonna report to the PC this week.

I think its a good thing for her. Get the WWE machine behind her a bit, give her a chance to work more without a title on her and develop especially in ring.

I thought whoever was booking her TNT title run did a good job for the most part of hiding where she needed work but that cant go on forever and she didn't seem to be improving in ring in AEW probably because the booking was hiding her areas for growth.

Shes got a look, she carries herself like something special, if she has the aptitude to go to the next level in ring you gotta believe the WWE system is a place to drag it out.

[M-A-G]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is really how The Big Show lost the Intercontinental Title.<br><br>The look on his face is priceless. <a href="https://t.co/6ylBU9AdcN">pic.twitter.com/6ylBU9AdcN</a></p>&mdash; Alastair McKenzie�������������� (@mckenzieas93V2) <a href="https://twitter.com/mckenzieas93V2/status/1705324336125485557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Was that one of those moments like Dean Malenko fucking up in that catch-as-catch-can match? :lol:

[Lock Jaw]

It was definitely intentional

[Mr. Nerfect]

Big Show switched alignment 3 times during that match, if I recall.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I couldn’t find the NXT thread, but I decided to watch some this week since they seem to be putting effort in. Some thoughts:


* Becky Lynch looks like she’s had some work done.

* Wrestling fans are fucking disgusting.

* Becky is kind of obnoxious on the mic.

* Hate how wrestlers all get their personalized graphics.

* Tiffany Stratton needs some polish. She should pay Nia Jax to be extra backup at No Mercy against Becky and then Becky should bring Jade Cargill in.

* The Family’s shtick seems so antiquated. I hate how that shit is filmed. Just be people. I was reading that Stacks, or whatever they call him, was trained by Tom Prichard. They’ve probably got a future, just ease up on the stereotype. Los Lotharios being in NXT is a good thing.

* Trick Williams can talk. He and Dominik were a cut above everyone else on this show so far.

* Noam Dar is doing a Matrix thing and I’ve got no fucking clue why. That movie is almost 25 years old. Unless they are going to WBD. One of the women with Noam has a good look even in the obnoxious gimmick.

* Butch and Tyler Bate was a bit goofy for what I imagined them doing, but some good stuff. Hope this leads to Butch winning the Heritage Cup and The Brawling Brutes backing him up against Gallus.

After this I had to take a break. It wasn’t horrible, but the “acting” on the show is so bad. Everyone is green, but that’s kind of a problem. They really need to dial back on some of these gimmicks too. Makes it way harder to care about the ring stuff.

[XL]

Oh, how have Los Lotharios managed to avoid the Autumn Clean? They’re a couple more guys in NXT most likely on main roster money (even if on the low end of the scale).

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE probably sees value in them. Young Hispanic dudes with no known attitude problems.

[XL]

Maybe they could be the “next Rey Mysterio” they’ve been looking for for the last 15 years?

[Helmsphere]

The next Rey Mysterio? Why would they want a man who is a horrible father and beats his son? If that's the case just rehire Alberto Del Rio if he isn't in prison already.

[GD]

Nostalgia

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Maybe they could be the “next Rey Mysterio” they’ve been looking for for the last 15 years?

I doubt it, but Angel Garza has done some solid work. Good looking guy — pretty young. I just hope once their NXT stint is done they get unique personalities. Being Latino relatives who team together sinks a lot of wrestlers. Like The Colons.

Also: re-hire the Colons.

[Lock Jaw]

Was thinking of this Christian theme recently

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Re: Jey Uso's new theme

[Lock Jaw]

I feel "bad" missing out on the work that Christian is doing right now. Clearly the best part of AEW, but I just can't commit to watching....

Maybe if MJF and Christian swapped titles that would get me to watch, not to mention start a new boom period in wrestling.

[Volchok]

Nostalgia

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god i love this version.

[Volchok]

ngl, i always preferred Christian to Edge.

[Lock Jaw]

That's just called having good taste

[Tom Guycott]

Was thinking of this Christian theme recently

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Re: Jey Uso's new theme

Not even the superior, original version of At Last... you know, the one he was getting face pops for, so they had to re-edit it to make it sound more sinister:

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[Lock Jaw]

Nah, not superior

[slik]

Meltzer has lost it

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Meltzer has lost it

https://i.postimg.cc/k53qKYHQ/F6x-Xcb-GWIAAIa-Wa.jpg

…Wot?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At a WWE house show where I was only booked for a promo. Vince arrived DURING the first match and said “You know what match I’d pay to see? Lance Storm vs Eddie Guerrero for the US Title. Put that match on next.” My gear was still in the car. I wasn’t booked to wrestle ��</p>&mdash; Lance Storm (@LanceStorm) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1706346204341452998?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was still taping my wrists and putting on my elbow pad as I walked to the ring. No warm up, just call it out there.</p>&mdash; Lance Storm (@LanceStorm) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1706350400381853783?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Love this

[Splaya]

As time goes on, I am really enjoying Lance Storm and his insight to the business and his stories.

[LibSuperstar]

He's a great follow for that reason. And actually has a decent sense of humor.

[XL]

Mr. Nerfect, it’s happening…

HBK on CM Punk:

“Of course, we’d welcome him here in NXT. My guess is, he would probably want to go to the main roster. I always enjoyed working with Phil. Didn’t get to do it much. I understood him. Whether you want to say there were similarities in us. I can’t lie. We were at TV, and he once pulled out his wallet, on the spot, an autograph that I had signed for him in a hotel that he still had. I’ve always liked him. I understand he’s a different kind of cat and can sometimes be challenging to get along with people, but that is probably why I like him, because I suffer from the same thing. Obviously, that’s for people to decide higher up on the food chain than I am. He’s a guy that does numbers and makes money. That would be a risk-reward ratio that from a company standpoint, they’d have to consider. When it comes to, ‘would we take him in NXT and have him on our television?’ Are you kidding me? Of course I would. I just don’t think anybody would let me. Who wouldn’t take that kind of star power? I don’t know. If I get in trouble for that, I’ll let you know.“

[XL]

Need to have the NXT locker room start being unruly and HBK can handle it so he has to bring a real Locker Room Leader.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk should play the gimmick Dave Meltzer made up for him. Turn NXT into a Punk branded show. Have him act like a babyface as he goes over and the internet cries. Then slowly lead people to realize he’s not the hero he wants to be presented as.

NXT Champion Punk dropping sly disses at the AEW Title and World Heavyweight Title as he smooches up to Becky and Seth gets jealous is money.

[Ben Rodrigues]

Mr. Nerfect, it’s happening…

HBK on CM Punk:

“Of course, we’d welcome him here in NXT. My guess is, he would probably want to go to the main roster. I always enjoyed working with Phil. Didn’t get to do it much. I understood him. Whether you want to say there were similarities in us. I can’t lie. We were at TV, and he once pulled out his wallet, on the spot, an autograph that I had signed for him in a hotel that he still had. I’ve always liked him. I understand he’s a different kind of cat and can sometimes be challenging to get along with people, but that is probably why I like him, because I suffer from the same thing. Obviously, that’s for people to decide higher up on the food chain than I am. He’s a guy that does numbers and makes money. That would be a risk-reward ratio that from a company standpoint, they’d have to consider. When it comes to, ‘would we take him in NXT and have him on our television?’ Are you kidding me? Of course I would. I just don’t think anybody would let me. Who wouldn’t take that kind of star power? I don’t know. If I get in trouble for that, I’ll let you know.“

Tremendous! No way he goes to NXT though.

[xrodmuc316]

Man if CM Phil went to NXT and beat Dynamite in the ratings, Tiny might legit explode.

[LibSuperstar]

Man if CM Phil went to NXT and beat Dynamite in the ratings, Tiny might legit explode.

That would be comedy.

[XL]

Tremendous! No way he goes to NXT though.

“Anything can happen in <s>the WWF</s> NXT.”

[Gerard]

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Almost 2 broken necks in the space of about 20 seconds

[McLegend]

Both are accidental.

The Meng one could be explained, because everything happened so fast. However with Jimmy Hart Goldberg clearly didn’t have a good grip on him, and shouldn’t have thrown him yet.

Basically I’m saying Meng is pure accident while Jimmy Hart is careless accident.

[Gerard]

Both are accidental.





Well I wouldn't like to think he tried to spike both on the tops of their heads intentionally.

[Helmsphere]

Yeah cause he tried to intentionally do it to Meng, then there would be no more Goldberg.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The second battle in the hardest rivalry of the 90’s, and arguably all time. ☠️�� <a href="https://t.co/n2iIhb9vJh">pic.twitter.com/n2iIhb9vJh</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1708146795656700123?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[weather vane]

Not even the superior, original version of At Last... you know, the one he was getting face pops for, so they had to re-edit it to make it sound more sinister:

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Best.

[Bad News Gertner]

Watching another WCW Thunder. July. 6 1998 and it's been something

Konann vs El Dandy
Lizmark Jr vs Ultimo Dragon in an awesome match
DDP Interview
Alex Wright and Disco Inferno/w/Tokyo Magnum vs Public Enemy
Bret Hart Interview
Roadblock vs Hacksaw Jim Duggan lol
Dean Malenko Interview
Currently watching Saturn vs Kanyon

[weather vane]

Love that. WCW was the best.

[Bad News Gertner]

Saturn vs Kanyon was amazing

Saturn wins surpinsgly clean.

[Bad News Gertner]

They are in Oakland so lots of Luchadors in this episode

Psychosis vs Eddie Guerrero next.

One of the better episodes of Thunder in ring.

I'm sure Brian Adams will screw that all up at some . Or Mongo, Bulldog and Anvil

[Bad News Gertner]

Lmao Chavo is so fucking over right now.

[Bad News Gertner]

The commentary team of Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan and Lee Marshall

[Bad News Gertner]

Chavo is out riding Pepe with a freshly shaved head and a Zorro mask

Eddie wins. Great match.

[Bad News Gertner]

Scott Hall interview. He's so good.


Scott Mother Fucking Norton baby vs Ciclope lmao

Ciclope is gonna die.

[Bad News Gertner]

Norton wins via Powerbomb in 30 seconds. This is Norton's return from Japan and thus signifies the Summer of Powerbombs and Scott Norton's push

[Bad News Gertner]

Stevie Ray Interview and then faces Damian.

This is the beginning of Stevie Ray defending Booker T's T.V Title.

[Bad News Gertner]

Stevie Ray wins. He's so fucking bad.

[Bad News Gertner]

Curt Hennig with Rick Rude, Vincent, Scott Hall vs DDP interview



Rey vs Juvy next! What a show!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, I’m going to check out that Thunder. It’s weird that Thunder then completely smokes most modern wrestling now. The inconsequential nature of Thunder makes it contemporarily competitive. :lol:

[Tom Guycott]

Lmao Chavo is so fucking over right now.

Without even looking at any of that show, my guess is that this is "hobby horse" Chavo (Pepe, was it)? Because inanimate objects are USUALLY a way of getting over pretty hot, see: Head, Moppy, Undertaker's urn, Cody's mustache, Hacksaw's 2x4, Mitch the Potted Plant.

The only person I don't remember it working for in any way was "Disqo" Inferno when he had the duck, his "visual aid". Nobody gave a shit.

[Tom Guycott]

Chavo is out riding Pepe with a freshly shaved head and a Zorro mask

Eddie wins. Great match.

... if I had just waited until the next page, I'd have gotten my answer about Pepe.

[Tom Guycott]

Punk should play the gimmick Dave Meltzer made up for him...

Stop right there. This idea is bad already. Even if it involves CM Punk having a match in the Tokyo Dome, whatever came after that would prob'ly be horseshit.

[weather vane]

I was a yuuuge Chavo and Pepe mark.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Stop right there. This idea is bad already. Even if it involves CM Punk having a match in the Tokyo Dome, whatever came after that would prob'ly be horseshit.

I don’t mean Dave’s creative, I mean taking his lies and turning it into inspiration. :lol:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Manami Toyota x Dynamite Kansai. There are levels in pro wrestling beyond star ratings, and the 90’s AJW main event standard is one that’s tough to match, much less surpass. (12.4.1995) �� <a href="https://t.co/TyuA0P5VsD">pic.twitter.com/TyuA0P5VsD</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1710115072633082098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These vintage wrestling Twitter accounts keep posting Manami Toyota matches and I didn’t know anything about her but in all the clips it looks like she fucking ruled? Seems like a massive hole in my wrasslin appreciation

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Probably having something to do with my knowledge on 90s joshi wrestling was “oh I saw that lady wrestle Alundra Blayze once on Superstars”

[Sepholio]

Dude that move where she had Dynamite up like an electric chair and was holding her arms in an X and then went back into a pin was fucking sweet.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’m pretty sure that’s the Japanese Ocean Cyclone Suplex.

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rikidōzan x The Destroyer. One of the most famous series of matches in the history of wrestling, at its peak drawing an astonishing 64% television rating in Japan. (1963) �� <a href="https://t.co/AZFP1lo6CM">pic.twitter.com/AZFP1lo6CM</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1710155463008899119?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dick Beyer coached wrestling at a rival high school where I grew up. Back then I had never even heard of the destroyer, butI still find it pretty cool. I also became friends with someone from that school in college and it turned out Beyer was one of the most beloved members of that community and a genuinely awesome human being.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wrestlers’ names used to be so much better. <a href="https://t.co/Inqg2doVYs">pic.twitter.com/Inqg2doVYs</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts - Unofficial Tribute Account (@WCWCuts) <a href="https://twitter.com/WCWCuts/status/1709976886158225738?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Maven's YouTube channel is fantastic. Tells lots of good stories, super transparent about his struggles, how much he was making, which guys he had good experiences with etc.

[XL]

Fastlane has 5 announced matches and only one singles match. Odd card.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn’t most of their shows go to about 5 or 6 matches over the past year or so?

[XL]

7 seems to be about the average they’ve gone for for the “b” shows, with the odd 6. I think there was a recent show that had 5 advertised and an “impromptu” match on the night.

[XL]

Elimination Chamber had 5 but 2 of those were Chamber matches.

[Mr. Nerfect]

7 seems to be about the average they’ve gone for for the “b” shows, with the odd 6. I think there was a recent show that had 5 advertised and an “impromptu” match on the night.

Ah yeah, seems about right. 5 used to be the magic number for Takeover shows, so I might be conflating that. They can always throw out something else for the card if they haven’t already.

As for the lack of straight one-on-one matches: Eh, with so few matches, I can see it being totally accidental. But maybe their thinking is to really emphasize the Rollins/Nakamura match?

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never really see this one posted, but this is f*cking wild even by Sabu standards. <a href="https://t.co/fU6kVfbzkE">pic.twitter.com/fU6kVfbzkE</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1710693253282947186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Dropkick from Mayu Iwatani was COLD as F*CK! <a href="https://t.co/8lpBjYFTCu">pic.twitter.com/8lpBjYFTCu</a></p>&mdash; Dark Puroresu Flowsion (@PuroresuFlow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1710666852559462510?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was the peak of professional wrestling in the 1980's. <br><br>Simply amazing. <a href="https://t.co/6Dc6KA5SuM">pic.twitter.com/6Dc6KA5SuM</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1710937065699819803?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol I posted that in the Thursday Watchalong a while back
It's so amazing.

[drave]

Apparently NWA is bringing back the territory structure.

NATIONAL WRESTLING ALLIANCE EMBARKS ON HISTORIC TERRITORY SYSTEM REVIVAL UNDER LEADERSHIP OF PRESIDENT WILLIAM PATRICK CORGAN

• The first affiliate territory for the Lightning One era is NWA Exodus Pro Midwest

• Territory is lead by NWA World's Heavyweight Champion EC3

• More territories are being explored domestically and internationally

CLEVELAND, OH - In a move marking a pivotal moment in the history of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA), President William Patrick Corgan has announced the revival of the promotion's territorial system, a cherished tradition for the NWA, which harkens back to the roots of professional wrestling and the alliance's formation 75 years ago. The move is aimed at fostering collaboration, unity and the development of future wrestling stars. The inaugural affiliate territory to join this initiative is NWA Exodus Pro Midwest, under the stewardship of none other than the NWA World's Heavyweight Champion, EC3.

In a statement reflecting the essence of this moment, Billy Corgan remarked, "We are returning to the collaboration that defined the NWA, embracing a model that not only honors our rich history but also propels us into a future of young stars. This initial undertaking with NWA Exodus Pro, as well as all our affiliate promotions to come, will play a pivotal role in who appears on NWA television in the future, as well as affording those affiliate promotions consistent access to all the top NWA champions and superstars."

NWA Exodus Pro Midwest, led by the illustrious NWA World's Heavyweight Champion EC3, will see its Men's Heavyweight Championship officially recognized by the NWA-a testament to the gravity of this new chapter in NWA history. This collaboration not only signifies a mutual partnership but also symbolizes a shared commitment to the growth and evolution of professional wrestling. EC3 expressed his excitement, stating, "I am honored to lead NWA Exodus Pro Midwest into this new chapter. I've long sought a way to create a platform of opportunity for up and coming talent to "tell their story." With the WPC and the NWA, I have the right partner and wrestling's most important legacy. To have the NWA's brand, create shows, and cultivate talent, especially in the Midwest region, is something I'm incredibly passionate about. Together, we will pave the way for a future that respects the traditions of the past while pushing the boundaries of what's possible. Dare I say, we can "control the narrative."

The inaugural celebration of this historic affiliation will be marked by "NWA Presents: Samhain" on October 28, 2023, hosted at Temple Live in Cleveland. Fans can secure their tickets and pay-per-view access by visiting NWATix.com and Fite.TV.


Up next for the promotion is NWA Samhain. The event will take place in EC3's hometown of Cleveland, where he will be running the NWA Exodus Pro Midwest promotion. The lineup for the show is below.

NWA Samhain on October 28, 2023 lineup:

NWA World Women's Tag Team Champions Pretty Empowered (Ella Envy & Kylie Paige) defend against Taylor Rising & Natalia Markova
NWA World Tag Team Championship Blunt Force Trauma (Damage & Carnage) w/Aron Stevens defend against Mike Knox & Trevor Murdoch in a Medieval Knights of The Round Tables Tables match
NWA World Junior Heavyweight Champion Colby Corino defends against Joe Alonzo
NWA World Women's Champion Kenzie Paige defends against Ruthie Jay
NWA World Heavyweight Champion EC3 defends against Thom Latimer w/Kamille

[M-A-G]

What a great way for young talent to learn their craft in a variety of ways and gain vital experience before it's beaten out of them in the Performance Center.

[drave]

Fans of the long-running “reality” program Total Divas are abuzz today after the announcement that the series will return starring two of the biggest divas in wrestling today, CM Punk and Jack Perry.

Sparks will fly when these two feisty hellcats are forced to co-exist in Divas Mansion, followed 24-7 by cameras, alongside some of wrestling’s other biggest Divas.

Punk and Perry, who scratched and hair-pulled during a highly publicized catfight backstage at a recent AEW event, will be joined the program by Divas including:

Shawn Michaels, the 67-year-old bushman who still calls himself The Heartbreak Kid with a straight face
Ryback, a voracious eater with a quirky personality
Low-Ki, a deep-voiced Diva nicknamed Hi-Maintenance
Hulk Hogan, a self-described former bassist for U2
Longtime fans of Total Divas should expect the upcoming season to be just as insufferable as they’ve come to expect.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What a great way for young talent to learn their craft in a variety of ways and gain vital experience before it's beaten out of them in the Performance Center.

May have been true at one point, but now people actually get better at the Performance Center. Look at Julius Creed for example. Dude wrestles like Kenny Omega on crack, but somehow tries to make it make sense. Wrestling outside WWE isn’t very good.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lmao

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDayInWWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDayInWWE</a> 20 years ago on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a>:<br><br>Sable slaps Linda<br><br>Stephanie won't stand for that and attacks her<br><br>So Vince clotheslines his own daughter<br><br>Wild times <a href="https://t.co/Cad4vKbRld">pic.twitter.com/Cad4vKbRld</a></p>&mdash; On This Day in WWE (@OTD_in_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/OTD_in_WWE/status/1711392316026397130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

<blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/WpGRPwp" data-context="false" ><a href="//imgur.com/a/WpGRPwp"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

Brian Pillman Jr's. NXT name is rumored to be:


Lexis King



lol


NXT so threatened by AEW they have to bring Taker to NXT, LOL

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tom Magee 1988 ring entrance. �� <a href="https://t.co/dLnMUbuwoM">pic.twitter.com/dLnMUbuwoM</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1711944749534290196?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bret Hart as Aladdin. <a href="https://t.co/t7eBhrEHuB">pic.twitter.com/t7eBhrEHuB</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1711813345391612261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Always wondered how Bret would have been in that. I was a big Bret fan but even as a youngling I thought that was the weirdest thing ever and that he was probably just weird and awkward in it

[drave]

He'd get pissed that the Genie was the real star and quit.

[Lock Jaw]

He was the genie

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

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[drave]

He wishes/d

[drave]

Stevie Richards talking about Bret is more over than Bret ever was, is or will be.

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="1130" height="636" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8KVsaoveTbw" title="The Iron Claw | Official Trailer HD | A24" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Had no idea this was a thing that was happening

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Stevie Richards talking about Bret is more over than Bret ever was, is or will be.

Drave, you add basically nothing to any conversation.

[drave]

I wasn't wrong, you're just mad and chose to reply.

Same about your Bret Fart posts.... so.....


https://www.bing.com/th/id/OGC.5f5eda427e36f5a535ea9804fb29d34f?pid=1.7&rurl=https%3a%2f%2fmedia1.tenor.com%2fimages%2f5f5eda427e36f5a535ea9804fb29d34f%2ftenor.gif%3fitemid %3d13257251&ehk=qOvpWXkvHr%2fXyz4VN9HpmtyAlv0FgNwymTaUqCYGWdo%3d

[Fignuts]

<iframe width="1130" height="636" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8KVsaoveTbw" title="The Iron Claw | Official Trailer HD | A24" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Had no idea this was a thing that was happening

This looks fucking great.

Can't go wrong with A24

[Volchok]

Lol why is Tyrus coming to my town with his fox news show lol

[Big Vic]

one of the sickest chair shots I have seen was either Farooq or Bradshaw hitting Pete Gas on the top of the head beading the chair in half.

I can't find it but apparently they have a replay of it on the 16-12-1999 episode of smackdown. After 11 years (from this previous post) I finally find this chairshot again (@14:35)



<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1H1Pq34RAxk?si=ohHShqPmK7GqgY-j" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Evil Vito]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8QyqXLaMAATbvj?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wish Bret Hart could still go in 2000/2001 so we could have gotten Bret Hart vs. Stevie Richards at Mania 17.

[M-A-G]

<img src="https://i.imgur.com/4M9MnlL.jpeg" width="600" height="590">

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fans chanting &quot;Holy shit&quot; when they should be chanting &quot;You dumb fucks!&quot; <a href="https://t.co/P1Tq01djWX">pic.twitter.com/P1Tq01djWX</a></p>&mdash; Raj Giri (@TheRajGiri) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRajGiri/status/1713176284858364051?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[M-A-G]

I'd ask why the referee is assisting in this stupidity, but who really fucking cares?

[Mr. Nerfect]

You have to love spots the wrestlers come up with, but they don’t actually know how to pull them off, so they just say “fuck it” and get the referee to help.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Logan Paul’s fight against Dillon Danis was apparently a farce in Logan’s favor. After the fight he…

Called out Rey Mysterio for the US Title. Looks like that will happen at Crown Jewel.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big Van Vader x Shinya Hashimoto. Main event heavyweight scene in this era was some nasty business. ☠️ <a href="https://t.co/dSMbFfNFiP">pic.twitter.com/dSMbFfNFiP</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1713563331166900462?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[drave]

That heavyweight post broke X

[Splaya]

Logan Paul’s fight against Dillon Danis was apparently a farce in Logan’s favor. After the fight he…

Called out Rey Mysterio for the US Title. Looks like that will happen at Crown Jewel.

:rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl::lol::rofl:

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">November 23, 1985<br><br>Steve Borden (Sting) &amp; Jim Hellwig (The Ultimate Warrior) made their wrestling TV debut on Memphis TV and of course Lance Russell was kingsized guiding them through the interview <a href="https://t.co/Erg8wrkpDq">pic.twitter.com/Erg8wrkpDq</a></p>&mdash; Kris Zellner (@KrisZellner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1714823379977416951?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/PyN1DOgJNo">pic.twitter.com/PyN1DOgJNo</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/1714841103361327327?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

So apparently Natalya said she has the most victories by submission in WWE history. She even brought up how Bret won a lot of matches by pinfall, which is why she has more.

That cannot be true can it? Nobody has more submission wins in WWE history than Nattie???

[xrodmuc316]

<img src="https://i.imgur.com/4M9MnlL.jpeg" width="600" height="590">

For 23 years old those are in pretty nice shape!

[Lock Jaw]

So apparently Natalya said she has the most victories by submission in WWE history. She even brought up how Bret won a lot of matches by pinfall, which is why she has more.

That cannot be true can it? Nobody has more submission wins in WWE history than Nattie???

I could easily believe it. She's been around for like 15 years or so and consistently used the Sharpshooter as a finisher in that time. Even without counting house shows I wouldn't doubt her as #1.

[Fignuts]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/PyN1DOgJNo">pic.twitter.com/PyN1DOgJNo</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/1714841103361327327?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ah, a classic puroresu manuever. The flying penis attack.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ah, a classic puroresu manuever. The flying penis attack.

I counter counter your pee pee!

[Sepholio]

So apparently Natalya said she has the most victories by submission in WWE history. She even brought up how Bret won a lot of matches by pinfall, which is why she has more.

That cannot be true can it? Nobody has more submission wins in WWE history than Nattie???

I could easily believe it. She's been around for like 15 years or so and consistently used the Sharpshooter as a finisher in that time. Even without counting house shows I wouldn't doubt her as #1.

I wouldn't be surprised if you told me she had the most wins ever, period. She wrestled at every house show foreeeevvvveeerrrrr.

[Bad News Gertner]

Bret didn't use it while he was in the Hart Foundation besides that weird singles run he had in 88, he was only wrestling as a singles from 92-97 and he took a bit of time off in 96

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, as far as WWE rasslers who extensively used submission finishers, Nattie has pretty much eclipsed all their WWE careers in terms of length.

[M-A-G]

Wait, Natalya wins matches?

[M-A-G]

For 23 years old those are in pretty nice shape!

I still have mine from No Mercy 2005. It's the last wrestling related thing I own and have been wanting to get rid of for a long time.

https://i.imgur.com/rVHh3lH.jpg

[LibSuperstar]

Bret didn't use it while he was in the Hart Foundation besides that weird singles run he had in 88, he was only wrestling as a singles from 92-97 and he took a bit of time off in 96

Whoa! Bret used it back then? I thought the only one who used it was Ronnie Garvin and Ted DiBiase.

[Bad News Gertner]

I could have sworn I saw him use it at some T.V or House Show matches.

Now I'm going to obsessively comb youtube because I can't help myself.

I know he was using a piledriver or a backbreaker from like 84-87

[Bad News Gertner]

Wait, nevermind. Didn't Bret say Konann taught him the Sharpshooter. It couldn't be 1988 then.

[Bad News Gertner]

I love looking through stats on wrestling data. I know the stats aren't complete but it's interesting


Did you know Hulk Hogan had a record of 3 wins and 14 losses in 1997 WCW

[Mr. Nerfect]

The NWA is expected to announce a deal with the CW Network soon.

[Vastardikai]

Wait, nevermind. Didn't Bret say Konann taught him the Sharpshooter. It couldn't be 1988 then.

I think he was using a piledriver in 98.

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah I went back and watched a few matches from 88. Definitely still using the Piledriver and a terrible looking one

[Bad News Gertner]

Shitty Bret Hart can't even do a Piledriver

#TheBestThereWasnt

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shitty piledrivers must run in the family.

[drave]

zing!

[xrodmuc316]

I could easily believe it. She's been around for like 15 years or so and consistently used the Sharpshooter as a finisher in that time. Even without counting house shows I wouldn't doubt her as #1.

Yeah has to be counting house shows.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Randy Orton is set to be making a comeback.

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="1129" height="635" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CkplxWsJRw8" title="Bad Bunny has arrived in WWE 2K23" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bad Bunny

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ace Steel is…BOUND FOR GLORY!

[thekrow]

Ace Steel is…BOUND FOR GLORY!

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rHJdrnoOZyc?si=MCDpIg-ADnBz1VBX" title="YouTube video player" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen="" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0"></iframe>

Forget Ace Steel, the news of the month is that TD Shepherd is debuting next week, October 28th at Valley of Nightmares. TD Shepherd cut a sick promo, this dude got crazy charisma.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol they’re bringing back the TNA branding. Unbelievable.

[thekrow]

Note I'm not sure why TD Shepherd's promo is presented in 2 and a half p, I dont know if its a style choice or if Sudistic camera broke.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should have just called it RIP Impact Wrestling.

[thekrow]

They should have just called it RIP Impact Wrestling.


They should just hand the company over to Rich Fortune and Sudistic to manage. Total Sudistic Wrestling. Has a ring to it.

[Destor]

No one calls it impact. Itll always be TNA

[thekrow]

Alex Shelley vs Psycho
Chris Sabin vs King Violent
Tommy Dreamer vs Mike Grizzly
Just throwing some ideas out there.

[thekrow]

No one calls it impact. Itll always be TNA
Tits and Ass Wrestling has a ring to it.

[thekrow]

They should actually rebrand to TNA but now its not total nonstop action but instead Tits and Ass Wrestling.

[Evil Vito]

Let’s say Tommy Dreamer actually did hop the barricade and shoot and kill Paul Heyman live at WrestleMania 17.

This wouldn’t be an Owen situation where Vince could force the show to go on, surely the authorities would’ve shut it down because it’s an actual crime scene.

So the biggest/most successful PPV of all time never finishes and is permanently tainted by a tragedy. What, if any, long-term impact does this have on the business?

[Big Vic]

I love looking through stats on wrestling data. I know the stats aren't complete but it's interesting


Did you know Hulk Hogan had a record of 3 wins and 14 losses in 1997 WCW

What site do you use? Cagematch?

[Big Vic]

What, if any, long-term impact does this have on the business?

No mouth piece for Lesnar.

Stone Cold remains face.

[Bad News Gertner]

Wrestlingdata

[M-A-G]

No mouth piece for Lesnar.



This is probably the biggest one. Lesnar isn't half as interesting (and I never thought that highly of him to begin with) as when he had Heyman doing all of his talking for him. Could they have picked someone else? Sure, but the number of people Brock actually likes being around can be counted on one hand.

[Destor]

Let’s say Tommy Dreamer actually did hop the barricade and shoot and kill Paul Heyman live at WrestleMania 17.

This wouldn’t be an Owen situation where Vince could force the show to go on, surely the authorities would’ve shut it down because it’s an actual crime scene.

So the biggest/most successful PPV of all time never finishes and is permanently tainted by a tragedy. What, if any, long-term impact does this have on the business?CM Punk probably wouldve never got called up let alone pushed. It was Heyman who wanted him for ECW. OVW wasnt high on him and likely never would have recommended him. And it was Heyman politicking for him that got him pushed before he was established.

[Evil Vito]

No mouth piece for Lesnar.

Stone Cold remains face.

Brock without Heyman feels almost unimaginable. With his look/talent/athleticism surely he still would've been a big deal no matter what but Heyman was a massive part of the presentation.

Probably right on Stone Cold as well. He's said repeatedly that even in the heat of the moment he was reading the room and tempted to call an audible and just stun Vince anyway. I'd assume they would've figured a way to finish the PPV on another night or something and maybe by then he'd have managed to talk Vince out of making that call.

[Evil Vito]

CM Punk probably wouldve never got called up let alone pushed. It was Heyman who wanted him for ECW. OVW wasnt high on him and likely never would have recommended him. And it was Heyman politicking for him that got him pushed before he was established.

This is a good one. I wonder if he even gets signed at all really, Heyman already had the book at OVW when he initially came in.

It's tough for me to a imagine that Punk wouldn't have eventually gotten some sort of WWE look by 2009/2010 or so when they were signing almost every notable ROH dude and he would've eventually had guys like Danielson vouching for him, but without Heyman he might've burned bridges quickly and never went anywhere.

[Destor]

At the very least it would have played out in a much different way at a later time

[Mr. Nerfect]

It would have shone an even bigger light on what a cesspool pro-wrestling is.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GOOD LORD <a href="https://t.co/RrdE21Yz1N">pic.twitter.com/RrdE21Yz1N</a></p>&mdash; snowboiiii (@snowboiiii) <a href="https://twitter.com/snowboiiii/status/1717692667755221111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Fignuts]

If a meteor is ever headed towards earth, we should just gather all the japanese tables and put them directly in its path. We'd be fine.

[M-A-G]

I AM THE TABLE!

[M-A-G]

Would you say that the table was working strong style there?

[drave]

no-sell table.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10/26/92:<br><br>&quot;I SAID ARE YOU READY, FOR THE SURVIVOR SERIES?!&quot;<br><br>Jimmy Garvin with a bizarre, unaired segment, which at least yielded a classic soundbite. <a href="https://t.co/peg9yp0jpZ">pic.twitter.com/peg9yp0jpZ</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1717677491555319982?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Heath Slater is a free agent. Tony will back the truck up, but I hope Heath signs with WWE. I’d like to see him as a veteran trying to claw his way back in via NXT. Then there’s always potential for a reunion with Drew McIntyre & Jinder Mahal. Matches against 3MB, Judgment Day and the Bloodline.

[Vastardikai]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10/26/92:<br><br>&quot;I SAID ARE YOU READY, FOR THE SURVIVOR SERIES?!&quot;<br><br>Jimmy Garvin with a bizarre, unaired segment, which at least yielded a classic soundbite. <a href="https://t.co/peg9yp0jpZ">pic.twitter.com/peg9yp0jpZ</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1717677491555319982?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

1. I didn't know Jimmy had a WWF run. But watching this, I know why.
2. Some people have no business wearing a suit.
3. Did Jimmy slip into Sheiky's stash?

[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="953" height="715" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qITBu4KAvkY" title="Sid Vicious funny moments" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The finest acting ever in rassling

[weather vane]

They released the Vlad doc I see. I’d like to watch that. Can’t find any links from the usual suspects yet. Message me if you find one please. Would appreciate it.

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HQ_FJP5tHB8?si=rSBwp4AFRkqqQKv0" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That was quite the headbutt. :eek:

[Gerard]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ywx_35HcTKI?si=jUhzk1M13vAYeO1J&amp;start=6197" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Someone mentioned this a while ago, wcw having the nwo theme and some random guy doing the voiceovers. Only example I've found of it, wonder did Nash botch the powerbomb at the end as there's a hard edit and giants on the mat suddenly with no replay...

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1999 David Flair was on another level. <a href="https://t.co/xOz1l61UHT">pic.twitter.com/xOz1l61UHT</a></p>&mdash; The YEAH! Revolution (@YEAHRevolution_) <a href="https://twitter.com/YEAHRevolution_/status/1718862323392143480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[M-A-G]

Another level of suck.

[M-A-G]

I probably shouldn't be too judgmental; the guy did bang Stacy Keibler after all. I should be judging Stacy Keibler instead.

[Mr. Nerfect]

David Flair was the Orange Cassidy of WCW. He wore jeans, he wasn’t very good, but he did better than some comparatively in the ratings. Well, that’s dropped off for Orange Cassidy now people have seen the car wreck.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<iframe width="953" height="715" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qITBu4KAvkY" title="Sid Vicious funny moments" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The finest acting ever in rassling

It’s been topped.

I can’t embed off my phone, but look up “AEW Nick Wayne’s mom” on YouTube and watch the sit down with JR. Fucking. Amazing.

[weather vane]

They released the Vlad doc I see. I’d like to watch that. Can’t find any links from the usual suspects yet. Message me if you find one please. Would appreciate it.

Nmmmmmm found it.

[Big Vic]

Do people here like LA Knight?

He seems mediocre to me.

[drave]

He seems to have had one of the more organic rises recently. Started off as what felt like a throw-away feud and the crowd just got behind him.

I've not watched it. 3 other people in my home watch it weekly, so I hear the show, and check "dirtsheet" info for them from time to time.

[Vastardikai]

I probably shouldn't be too judgmental; the guy did bang Stacy Keibler after all. I should be judging Stacy Keibler instead.

She dated Test, as well. Then ended up dating George Clooney.

[Vastardikai]

Do people here like LA Knight?

He seems mediocre to me.

YEAH!

I said something about THE RYBACK that also applies to L.A. Knight (YEAH!)

If you are gonna rip someone off, it is best to rip off someone who is a draw.

The actual wrestling part of wrestling is the least important part of wrestling. A charismatic guy who isn't a complete klutz in the ring will make a promoter more money than a guy who can "wrestle good."

Source: last 40 years of wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

LA Knight isn’t even bad in the ring. It’s more important to understand why you’re doing things than doing a lot of things.

I was wrong about him when he was basically my least favorite wrestler ever during his TNA days. I thought I was judging what I saw from him fairly, but his NWA and WWE work have changed my mind.

[Big Vic]

I don't watch anymore so the wrestling doesn't matter to me I just saw a few clips with Miz and haven't really understood the draw.

[drave]

It's a lil bit of "the chase" and "good on the mic" that has people won-over.

The first bit is why he won't win.

[Helmsphere]

She dated Test, as well. Then ended up dating George Clooney.

Shane Helms even tapped it

[XL]

All the men’s matches at Crown Jewel are singles. That’s 2 shows in a row they’ve done a really “imbalanced” card. I guess they have Survivor Series round the corner which could be mostly team matches but I prefer a decent variety of match types on any given card.

[Splaya]

It's not about what you want duh.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy shit Evan Karagias fell on hard times....he looks like a dude in an 80's mob movie<a href="https://t.co/Q4HMdEpLDU">https://t.co/Q4HMdEpLDU</a></p>&mdash; Kris Zellner (@KrisZellner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1720264052654448848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

This is so fucking cool

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HD scan of historic WWWF action from Nov. 1974<br><br>Bruno Sammartino vs Killer Kowalski (masked)<br><br>Lou Albano &amp; The Valiants vs. Chief Jay Strongbow, Dean Ho &amp; Tony Garea<br><br>Filmed at the Providence Civic Center for the film “Below The Belt”. More coming<a href="https://t.co/cfpLXJ3c7v">pic.twitter.com/cfpLXJ3c7v</a></p>&mdash; Rasslin' Rabbithole (@rasslinrabbit) <a href="https://twitter.com/rasslinrabbit/status/1720216349077618853?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[XL]

Did anybody watch Crown Jewel?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fuck no

[Bad News Gertner]

Look how quick Buddy is here.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Curt vs Buddy. Always GREAT stuff. <a href="https://t.co/ZgrOFvmqGC">pic.twitter.com/ZgrOFvmqGC</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/1720909047359062518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

I might be slightly curious as to what happens at Survivor Series. If CM Punk returns I’ll probably watch that segment.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Will Ospreay playing the game and promoting WWE via his Twitter.

[M-A-G]

https://i.imgur.com/ZxvAqE1.jpeg

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tiger Mask x Dynamite Kid. The final singles match in the rivalry that revolutionized the sport over 40 years ago. ���� <a href="https://t.co/bZWusy7iQp">pic.twitter.com/bZWusy7iQp</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1721181434180735014?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DaveWadding]

Former TPWW troll the CyNick still out here getting roasted :lol:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy shit lol <a href="https://t.co/wjtJKIOFWz">https://t.co/wjtJKIOFWz</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1721243242513981674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol oh dear

[Vastardikai]

The answer, of course, is "rubbing your inner thigh, as you do. moving closer to your panties."

[Big Vic]

Did Vince say that to Triple H or vice versa?

[Vastardikai]

Did Vince say that to Triple H or vice versa?

That was an SRS quote.

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That time that the Faces of Fear produced a moment for Faces of Death. <a href="https://t.co/zLjdFnD3J8">pic.twitter.com/zLjdFnD3J8</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts - Unofficial Tribute Account (@WCWCuts) <a href="https://twitter.com/WCWCuts/status/1721514429093757055?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Go CyNick, go! He’s probably not wrong if it’s about what I think it’s about.

[Fignuts]

Giulia apparently expected at the PC this month though there's been no official signings.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t follow joshi, but from what I know Giulia leaving Stardom will be a big deal for them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The NWA may have already blown their CW Network TV deal. Something to do with Jim Mitchell snorting coke on NWA programming (I don’t fucking know).

[XL]

What’s to know?

They cut to James Mitchell in a sort of bar environment snorting coke on their programming and for some reason the CW are having second thoughts.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, what’s to know? Why the fucking promotion would do something that stupid.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It’s ridiculous.

[Lock Jaw]

Random thought: more jocks need to become professional rasslers and less nerds

[Tom Guycott]

YEAH!

I said something about THE RYBACK that also applies to L.A. Knight (YEAH!)

If you are gonna rip someone off, it is best to rip off someone who is a draw.

The actual wrestling part of wrestling is the least important part of wrestling. A charismatic guy who isn't a complete klutz in the ring will make a promoter more money than a guy who can "wrestle good."

Source: last 40 years of wrestling.

The biggest problem here is that people treat this as an either/or thing: be it the promotions or the talents themselves. And, of course, one of the biggest persuaders of the trend is WWE. Not even a "fedbad" argument, but just how they hard-headely spearheaded style over substance. It made more sense when Vince took over from his dad and took the biggest metaphorical "sizzles" from just about every promotion he could to put together a locker room full of almost nothing but guys with tremendous personality all their own. The problems came from when they started either:

a) trying to prepackage or repackage people into cartoons. Everyone remembers the hits like Undertaker, but forgets Duke "The Dumpster" or Issac Yankem DDS in general (unless they're doing some sort of retrospective about Kane specifically and not the gimmick and timeframe)

b) hire people who merely "look the shit" and hoping that stuff like the wrestling, gimmicks, and promos just happen along the way. Especially since, over the same amount of time, the people who are tall bodybuilders ain't really built for or into this shit, and the people into this shit aren't tall bodybuilders.

So, you get to a guy like Eli Drake/LA Knight (or like the 3 other names he had in either developmental or on the main roster over time), and, for the most part, he had "star" written all over him, but he wasn't as tall as guys like Baron Corbin. So, he was minimized, embarassed, run off, let go in housecleaning sessions because there was "nothing for him" or any of a myriad of excuses. I will point out again that this is the same company that was going to release CM Punk from his developmental contract because they weren't signing him as much as the indy buzz, and didn't want anyone else getting that buzz at the time even though they themselves had zero plans for him. The same company that was going to release John Cena because Vince "didn't see it" in him. Was ready to relegate Steve Austin to "a good hand" and have him job every week (pre KotR)... but was ready to give guys like Sid or Luger or Ahmed Johnson "the boots" - as in make them the newer version of Hogan - to be positioned as the company figurehead.


LA Knight isn’t even bad in the ring. It’s more important to understand why you’re doing things than doing a lot of things.

I was wrong about him when he was basically my least favorite wrestler ever during his TNA days. I thought I was judging what I saw from him fairly, but his NWA and WWE work have changed my mind.

I feel you about his TNA stuff. It felt like he was leaning way too hard into aping The Rock in a company that already tried to do exactly that years earlier with Sonny Siaki. So, he felt like a ripoff of a ripoff. Took awhile to find his own voice, as it were. But when he did, he became a lot more tolerable.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, way more of him seems authentic now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

“Authentic” is probably the wrong word. But the Eli Drake/LA Knight character is its own living, breathing thing now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It looks like NXT will be going to the CW Network.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yep, it’s official. 5 yr deal, 70% increase in rights fees starting Oct 24.